Why an NFL Team Secretly Moved Cities Overnight

[@halfasinteresting]

As you know, HAI's content development division normally creates topics for us to talk about by travelling back in time to alter history in a way that leads to something reasonably interesting happening that we can talk about. For example, for this one we had team members befriending each future member of the Maryland state legislature when they were young and slowly deploying techniques of psychological influence to convince them that using eminent domain to seize a football team was alright. Turns out this is more cost-effective than just browsing Wikipedia until we find something, but this week our time machine is in the shop for annual maintenance so we need your help finding topics that have actually happened in the original timeline (to reiterate: we can't do any suggestions that involve altering the past until mid next week.) So, suggest your topic here, and if we use it, we'll reward you with one whole, complete, HAI t-shirt, shipped directly to you: docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfUdlvw6YgU44J8AnM2U_ZvRMyvh_CUM51LYSqF5nYJB9d1-w/viewform?usp=sf_link

[@brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115]

he IS Wendover.

[@Alexandre-nh3ei]

@@brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115 mr. sherlock!

[@OriginalPiMan]

Mid next week you should alter the past to allow you to alter the past now.

[@andrechristenson]

I was about to suggest the worlds fastest manhole cover, and then I realized I learned about it on this channel.

[@caballeinsan1535]

I say show how outrageous one or some countries have gotten just hosting the Olympics and the crazy debt they take on to do it.

[@vlogbrothers]

But why does no one ever ask!??!

[@tsg-froak9845]

vlogbrothers pog

[@Justinbyleth]

Good question vlogbrothers

[@MrJstorm4]

Hey Sera Sera the future's not ours to see Hank

[@missybarbour6885]

Can't believe you found this lol the internet is surreal

[@kabeerjay7401]

Hank, how do anglerfish reproduce?

[@johnfrechette9966]

"Sir, you've been in a coma overnight" "Boy, I can't wait to see my favorite football team, the Baltimore Colts"

[@AVeryRandomPerson]

@John Frechette The coma was called sleep lol

[@xrefed]

@@AVeryRandomPerson Whats The Difference?

[@nikkimcdonald4562]

@@xrefed hefty hospital bill.

[@Eugenepanels]

My friend fell asleep when the falcons were leading 28-3 he thought the game was over most entertaining night of my life

[@touchdown62]

He could have woken up and watched the short-lived Baltimore CFL Colts

[@TooMuchDad]

I actually never knew that Baltimore tried to just yoink the Colts lol. I thought they just wanted a better stadium and left. This is Twice as Interesting!

[@jayyyjude]

Yeah Baltimore and Maryland were absolute pains. Irsay and the Orioles spent a decade trying to work with the government to get a new stadium or at least renovations to the stadium (keep in mind this was before NFL owners were uber rich) and the legislature just kept going "lol nope fuck off" then they tried to get Irsay and the Orioles to sign a ridiculously long lease to get some much need renovations done on the stadium and that was when Irsay started looking to relocate the team. Then Maryland goes to try and steal the team

[@123mickymouse123]

Y'know, there are quite a lot of things that are better to spend money on than a stadium so I understand why they didn't want to waste a bunch of money on it. Let the teams build them themselves ;P. Seriously though, imagine the good which could be done by investing it into trains instead. Though the problem with public transportation in the US has a lot to do with suburbia and the rather idiotic city planners who built the cities around cars. I fear for the day some of the cities will have to pull a Paris.

[@jayyyjude]

@@123mickymouse123 Eh if you build a multipurpose stadium the economic benefits are profound. It can be used for tons and tons of events and create a bunch of jobs. It doesn't have to be just a football stadium

[@thatissomeBS]

@@123mickymouse123 On top of what jayyyjude said, having professional sports adds to the quality of life and entertainment in a city the same way museums, parks, concerts, etc. do. It's a big draw for people moving or staying. Also, the taxes are usually hotel/motel taxes or on something like state lottery tickets, which means they usually have little effect on the citizens of the actual city, unless they opt in to a optional lottery tax or something.

[@123mickymouse123]

@@jayyyjude It is a loss though: econreview.berkeley.edu/the-economics-of-sports-stadiums-does-public-financing-of-sports-stadiums-create-local-economic-growth-or-just-help-billionaires-improve-their-profit-margin/ If it's profitable, perhaps the stadium should pay back to the community directly or be built completely privately.

[@shantanukhandkar]

Its so weird that the Baltimore Ravens are actually the Cleveland Browns who used to be a good and even great team while the current Cleveland Browns are actually a totally different and crappy team who have assumed the identity of the old good team which is now a new good team. Apologies and condolences to Browns fans.

[@highviewbarbell]

its even crazier with baseball teams!

[@devinmackey83]

F&$% Art Model

[@zacknaughton2170]

@Highview Barbell It’s every crazier with hockey teams The old jets are in Arizona and the new jets are from Atlanta How Dallas is from Minnesota that merged with the Cleveland team that relocated from Oakland!!!

[@nickhawdon9139]

Nah don't apologize Browns fans deserve it lol

[@Tangerine129]

Not anymore 😀

[@nk6197]

I’ve heard about this before. There was outrage in Maryland the day everything was found out. Anything bearing the teams name was destroyed mostly by fire.

[@MattGoelz]

Not sure if it's still true but the Indianapolis Colts are the only team the Ravens wouldn't put the mascot name of on the scoreboard. Anytime the Colts play them in Baltimore they're simply listed as "Indy"

[@joeaverageone]

Yes anytime the colts come to Baltimore they are listed as Indy and not the colts. And the mayflower moving company is notorious around the area for doing the job

[@graymonk5972]

oh yeah we’re still spiteful about it now. i’m too young to have even been alive for this but i must hate the colts for it

[@jessewarr1277]

@@graymonk5972 why it's a football team and ur fault

[@calebkimmel372]

@@jessewarr1277 when a man has a team he sticks by that damn team. Im a bills fan and i wasnt alive back then but i still hate the 0-4 jokes

[@adamsfusion]

After watching this, I thought "Wow, a clean split with no lawsuits? Incredible!" To save people the wikipedia trip, there were _many_ lawsuits.

[@Aragon1500]

Which is why the colts can't have their lombardi trophy they won in Baltimore displayed in Indy

[@artistwithouttalent]

And the whole situation is so acrimonious (at least in Baltimore) that when the Colts play in Baltimore they are referred to as the "Indianapolis Professional Football Team"

[@sylvy16]

@@artistwithouttalent like the ‘washington football team’ when they didn’t choose a new name

[@isaiahfraser2968]

You know it’s a good day when real life lore and hai posts

[@Zamurkai]

Rare Earth posted too and joined Nebula

[@jacobross7443]

But then you have online school

[@baylinkdashyt]

Has anybody ever seen the two of them in the same room together?

[@pulkitmohta8964]

@@baylinkdashyt I've seen them in the same city

[@baylinkdashyt]

@@pulkitmohta8964 oh, so they really aren't the same guy? I was wondering about that...

[@enricocosta4441]

“Anual event where cars turn left 800 times” oof

[@SplicerOtter]

I mean he wasn’t wrong 4 turns, 200 laps means 800 lefts. Still the most exciting 800 left turns every year

[@Gasmask11000]

Still the biggest single day sporting event of the year. (No joke, more people watch the Indy 500 than the Super Bowl. It’s an international spectacle)

[@SplicerOtter]

swd311000 to be fair, it is a fantastic event...when it doesn’t finish under yellow in the dumbest way possible

[@samuelhammons2528]

Shoa Mien It would have taken a good 45 minutes to rebuild that barrier and without fans there it wasn’t worth it

[@SplicerOtter]

Samuel Hammons 45 minutes isn’t a long time, I was all in favour of a 4 lap 4 car shootout, not to mention Sato shouldn’t have been in 1st in the 1st place. Rahal was closing the gap at a monstrous of a pace. It really shouldn’t have ended that way. Most races? Fine that’s ok. But the 500 shouldn’t have finished under yellow. Even the commentators were annoyed with the finish

[@joshklein7842]

*Me in San Diego Roommate: Did take my charger? Me: LA took our Chargers.

[@Lrix]

>did take my charger

[@nom5455]

Saint Louis feels your pain

[@AVeryRandomPerson]

I hate those new Chargers from Siemens.

[@NikkyElso]

That's okay they sucked anyway

[@hectorvega621]

Sadly LA is the best place for sports team.

[@logank]

I saw that title and literally said out loud “oh my gosh, that’s the colts!” So that’s what it feels like to know something for once.

[@spartaninvirginia]

Yeah, if the government threatened to seize my multi-million dollar sports franchise, I'd move it overnight too

[@catarinamelchiorgomes8750]

How about building a stadium yourself instead of waiting for the government to build?

[@TheMarkster245]

Henrique Melchior Gomes because they would still have to approve it

[@camdened123456]

I didn't realise they could seize anything. I always assumed that it only related to land.

[@scmroman]

@@catarinamelchiorgomes8750 When new stadiumd are built the city they're being built in typically helps to fund it because they stand to gain a lot in the form of tax revenue generated by the stadium over its life. It's like the city making an investment in itself, it also gives the city government a bigger say in the construction of the stadium to ensure that the building of it goes off well and satisfies tne citizens.

[@TheMarkster245]

Ahmedali Tarajia it applies to all property but they have to offer “fair” compensation but they can challenge it in court

[@BetleyIsland36]

I guess they became Balti-NO-more

[@_deolarte]

This is a solid joke

[@ayubfe1660]

Copyright it now before Sam steals it and puts it in the script for the next video.

[@zanderdrivescars]

Goddamnit

[@BellambiFredRoberts]

Bolt - NO - more

[@toobig7150]

Leave.

[@lucamcgann8489]

hank green: *exists* Sam from HAI: *casual bullying*

[@PastaTurtle]

facts

[@jadegrace1312]

Too bad the guy from Wendover didn't make this video. He'd never do that.

[@uss_04]

He never shows his face cause he knows that Muscle Hank will track him down

[@puskajussi37]

Guess what SciShow just released So close, its actually hosted by Stefan

[@Gorindakia]

@@uss_04 He shows his face on Nebula, you could probably google a picture of him. He was in the game show Money by Tom Scott.

[@ChickinSammich]

ESPN's "The Band that Wouldn't Die" is a pretty good story that goes into even more detail about this topic, if anyone is interested. Left out: Indy wasn't the only city Irsay was in talks with - there were a couple of other cities in the mix. Local news caught one of his people coming back on a flight from one of those cities. Irsay was asked on camera if he was moving the team, SWORE he wasn't on camera (because of course) right before the move. Then from there, you have the ownership of the team in DC who fought against Baltimore getting a new team any time it came up. We also almost got the St Louis Cardinals, who moved to Arizona instead. And the fact that the NFL told Baltimore that if we wanted a football team so bad, to field a CFL team. Which we did - the Baltimore CFL Colts. They said we couldn't call them that, so we formally called them the Stallions but during Stallions games, the announcer would welcome the "Baltimore (pause) football team" rather than "Baltimore Stallions" and fans would yell "Colts" during the pause. In 1994, the Colts went to the Grey cup and BARELY lost in their first year. In 1995, they went back and won. I think they're still the only US based CFL team to win the Grey cup but I admittedly don't follow the CFL so I could be wrong. After that, we were awarded the Browns/Ravens, and Stallions became the Montreal Alouettes. We're still salty about it. The Ravens have Baltimore Colts members in their ring of honor despite the records having officially followed them to Indy. Despite listing every other team as "Steelers", "Browns", "Bengals", and so on, we list the Colts as "Indy" on our scoreboard. Despite the Bengals and Browns being in our division, Baltimore fans over the age of 30 hate the Colts roughly on par with how much we hate the Steelers and Patriots, despite their fanbase not caring NEARLY as much about the games like Pittsburgh and New England. The band I mentioned at the start? Washington and Baltimore are the only two teams that have marching bands, and the Marching Ravens band has been around since the Colts were here, and former Colts band members were part of the Ravens band, though I admit I'm not sure if they still are.

[@daveporter0217]

The band has the same director today. And yes, Baltimore is the only American team to win the Grey Cup. The CFL left the US after that season.

[@AVeryRandomPerson]

Got to keep it at the 5 minute mark.

[@siberianbull9]

We also had the Baltimore Stars briefly in the USFL and they also won that championship. So the City of Baltimore won the NFL TITLES, USFL TITLE, GREY CUP AND THE SUPER BOWL WITH 2 DIFFERENT TEAMS.

[@red6605]

Baltimore is now the only team to have a marching band. I don’t expect Washington to bring one back. Also, I understand why y’all was upset but the city and state are to blame for it happening by refusing to give the team a new stadium and then steal the team from the owner. Can’t blame Irsay for that.

[@kirin8484]

@@red6605 This video glosses over how horrible Irsay was and very difficult to deal with

[@lordhater2]

“After all, we all love to do the thing where we link our self-worth to how well the people wearing shirts with the name and place we live in, kick, carry, or throw the ball into that pit at the end of the field.” I feel dumb for playing college football now...

[@lonestarr1490]

And - depending on how often you smacked your head against other player's shoulders, heads, or the ground - quite rightly so.

[@B3Band]

You'll definitely tell everyone willing to listen about that awesome play you made that one time for the rest of your life though.

[@ToddHowar.d]

Lone Starr got ‘em

[@123mickymouse123]

@@lonestarr1490 Yeah, downplaying the consequences of repeated minor head trauma should be considered criminal, considering how many lifes have been ruined by it. Seriously, it has led to promising people committing suicide because they feel themselves deteriorating mentally :/.

[@uhohhotdog]

You should feel bad. It’s much better to play Minecraft instead

[@TrekkieBrie]

Insults the maryland flag Marylanders: "so you've chosen death"

[@kalina8285]

Its the best flag and no one can tell me otherwise!

[@TrekkieBrie]

@@kalina8285 facts

[@pikamonketchumlol1237]

@@TrekkieBrie yes, the flag that looks like a construction zone tape zipping through another construction zone tape while some Templar cross thing has a hallucinating meltdown. Classic America, beautiful flags and orange wall-builders.

[@trumpisaclown7280]

I kind of like it.

[@bigboy6959]

@King BullyRock flag 🔥 but Baltimore is trash no one said the city was good

[@noahbailey542]

“When did we start caring about abuses of power?” 😂😂😏 lol

[@MrJstorm4]

#robertmosesdidnothingwrong

[@gwydionrusso3206]

Heavy government sweating

[@Balibaliadashi]

@Hernando Malinche Certainly not when government builds these here highways when only the rich have roads. Certainly not when the government sends shuttles to the moon for no reason. Hey. Toolbag. Theres a reasons government does this. You just don't have enough sense to understand the sea of politics involved in things and you wanna yell "They took our tax money!" Political neophyte.

[@josephmurray5915]

This didn't really age well

[@gavintantleff]

Something really interesting is what happened to the marching band. Since they were all volunteers, they obviously stayed behind. However, their uniforms were at the dry cleaners, and the president of the band bribed the dry cleaners to leave the uniforms accessible out back, and they essentially stole the uniforms for a few weeks, until the colt’s owner’s wife said they could keep them. They then stayed in Baltimore, playing at events for like 20 years until the ravens finally arrived and they were then attached to a team again.

[@patrickracer43]

3:12 the Indianapolis 500: "am I a joke to you?" Sam: "no, you're an opportunity for a joke to me"

[@themaus3847]

I bet they used skillshare to find the best out the best shipping service.

[@AxxLAfriku]

WARNING I am the unprettiest human YTer worldwide, but somehow I have TWO HOT KZbinR girlfriends. Thanks for being a future subscryber, dear mega

[@themaus3847]

@AxxL get a life...

[@Danger-sp6mk]

A Fun Fact about the 5 sec husky section: Balto only ran the last couple miles to Nome and got all the fame while another dog, Togo, ran the vast majority of the trail and died from injuries sustained during the run

[@Danger-sp6mk]

The 1st grade Alaskan curriculum being useful!

[@Yepsuredid]

My dad is from Baltimore and he was heartbroken when the Colts left, so he never rooted for a football team again until the Ravens happened, so now me and my family are all Ravens fans.

[@MarkZickefoose]

And Browns fans everywhere are disgusted by the hypocrisy inherent in rooting for a team that was stolen from another city, especially by those who knew the pain of being the victim of that act themselves.

[@Yepsuredid]

@@MarkZickefoose No one criticized Indy for rooting for their new team. How is that hypocrisy? Wasn't their fault our team left. Wasn't our fault yours left.

[@MarkZickefoose]

@@Yepsuredid Making a lot of assumptions about people regarding Indy. As for hypocrisy, Baltimore had John Moag on the payroll with instructions to get an NFL team by hook or by crook, so yes, it WAS the fault of Baltimore that the Browns left (well, second place behind fArt Modell, but not by as much as you want to think). Also, Baltimore fans that know what having their team taken from them feels like and complaining about how awful it was, later celebrating their city doing the exact same thing to another fanbase and rooting for that team is textbook hypocrisy. I know fans that spent years bragging about how they'd "gotten one over" on the NFL with the move, not giving one damn about the damage that move did to a fanbase that had nothing to do with their situation. So you'll pardon me if I'm not feeling particularly sympathetic towards those who directly benefitted from my loss.

[@Yepsuredid]

@@MarkZickefoose why so salty?

[@MarkZickefoose]

@@Yepsuredid Ask your dad, because clearly you lack the capacity to understand.

[@Refty]

Out of all the crazy things I have seen in a KZbin video, Maryland trying to seize a football team, and Indianapolis stealing the team overnight to stop them is by far the most rediculous. I had to rewatch the video to make sure I understood what happened because it's so frikin absurd. It's even more insane than Real Life Lore's video on UPS shipping 2 baby whale sharks overnight for free.

[@jhmcd2]

It should be noted that Mayflower trucking has almost never been used in the state again.

[@stephenpeller1571]

My parents used it when they moved to baltimore.... Yeah not a good move but they don't know anything sports related

[@TM-dh2xb]

@@stephenpeller1571 not that moving TO Baltimore is ever a "good move" in the first place...

[@blazedgamingkr]

@@TM-dh2xb yeah, just ask any Browns fan.

[@DyslexicMitochondria]

I can listen to this guy's voice all day.

[@Listenimtooshyalright]

lmao same

[@gui18bif]

Its the worst part of the videos for me...

[@silas6574]

@@gui18bif shut up

[@austinczyzewski5792]

You can with nebula

[@adamdorgant9454]

I know Right!!!!

[@sohopedeco]

In São Paulo, we had a sad story similar to that. There was a beautiful gigantic house in Paulista Avenue known as the "Mattarazzo Mansion", owned by the richest industrilist family in Brazil in the early 20th century, who were actual descendants of Italian nobility. When the mansion was to be listed as a heritage site, it was completely torn down overnight to make room for a lame shopping mall. The owners never faced any responsability due to that.

[@jeffbenton6183]

Too bad. Sounds like it would've made a great museum. Do you have eminent domain in Brazil?

[@sohopedeco]

@@jeffbenton6183 Yes, we do. I unfortunately know very little about eminent domain in the US, but as far I know, here in Brazil it is a lot more unfair. You can get kicked off your property extremely easily and it takes forever for you to get payed. And when they eventually pay you, it's actually a fraction of the actual market value.

[@sganzerlag]

@@sohopedeco Good for them that they tore down that house instead of letting it fall into the hands of the government.

[@sohopedeco]

@@sganzerlag Not necessairly. Listing as a heritage site (tombamento) doesn't seize the property from its original owner, unlike eminent domain (desapropriação). It only limits given carachteristics of the building that cannot be changed. If you take a stroll in Paulista Avenue, you'll see a number of 19th century mansions that have been turned into fancy banks, with little of their exterior changed.

[@sohopedeco]

@@sganzerlag They could have still turned it into a shopping mall, like Shopping Light in the city center, which is in fact a heritage site too.

[@BChandl13]

So interesting, as a child who watched NFL growing up in the 1990s I was always told Irsay ripped the Colts out of Baltimore overnight. Kinda thought that was a ridiculous asshat move given you can move, even when it's contentious (Rams in Stl, Raiders in Oakland and Chargers in San Diego were all contentious moves done recently) Never once knew the city of Baltimore tried to seize the team. Feel like Baltimore has WAY bigger problems to worry about than trying to Hugo Chavez a sports franchise.

[@catarinamelchiorgomes8750]

The government have to build the stadium and the training camp for the team, why not owning the team outright? If the NFL cared about capitalism, them all would build private stadiums.

[@davesy6969]

Huge amounts of your local tax dollars go to sports franchises and the financial benefits go to the owners, who have a universal reluctance to open their books. That's money that should have gone to schools, roads, libraries, social workers and housing and much more. I'm not against sports, but don't see why working people should chip in for the benefit of the already rich.

[@Twitchi]

3:30 Waiting on Hanks' Angler fish video now...

[@jasonpost913]

I give it 2 weeks. If he hasn't already made it.

[@lonestarr1490]

Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6WadmeXorx3p6s

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

I hope Hank responds to this video.

[@Alcochaser]

Not just ANY moving company. Hudnut called a buddy who owned an Indianapolis moving company named Mayflower. There was serious concern that if a local Baltimore company was used, the whole caper would have gotten leaked to the press. Mayflower brought in all Indianapolis people to pack the team up and smuggle them out of Maryland (which is small and not hard to do)

[@jasonpayne1240]

My old man was from Baltimore and I vividly remember the day he heard the news. I don’t think Mayflower Moving Line ever came back to Baltimore either. Thank God the Ravens came there...Baltimore is as blue collar of a town as they come and NEEDED an NFL team.

[@MarloSoBalJr]

Mayflower is still here but not as active. People still give a stern look anytime those green trucks are roaming around

[@Joe_Blow_]

You forgot the most interesting part of the entire story, where out of pure spite, the stadium that the Ravens play in today flies the flag of 31 NFL franchises, every team but the Colts.

[@brentsmelser]

Thank you for posting this. I’m a lifelong Indianapolis Colts fans, and I’m so tired of people from Baltimore complain (35+ years later!) that we “stole” their team. Truth is, they tried to take the team from the owner, and they, hypocritically, took Cleveland’s team a few years later.

[@geneticemo]

Us Cleveland fans got it rough man

[@ishave1627]

Left unsaid in this video: the NFL's hatred of Baltimore. They allowed the Colts to move and take the team's name, logo, and HISTORY with them. Many famous Baltimore Colts, e.g. Johnny Unitas, refused to be associated with being part of the history of the Indianapolis Colts. So Baltimore lost the entire legacy of their franchise, unlike the Cleveland Browns move to Baltimore, where the NFL ALLOWED THE BROWNS TO KEEP THEIR NAME AND LEGACY RECORDS. Also, in the 1995 NFL Expansion, Baltimore sold more PSL's and season tickets than any other city bidding for an expansion team, as well as having funding for a new stadium in place. The NFL instead stiffed Baltimore again and awarded franchises to Jacksonville and Carolina, two less-populated cities with less season ticket pre-sales and smaller TV markets. Then, in the Cleveland-to-Baltimore move of 1996 (for much of the same reasons as why Irsay moved the Colts), the NFL, unlike their actions with Baltimore, IMMEDIATELY awarded a new franchise to Cleveland with their original name and history. The NFL then forced the owner of the Baltimore Ravens (nee Browns), Art Modell, to sell the team and his move has so far cost him entry into the Hall of Fame.

[@phillipmel]

Thanks I Shave! Very good report (read mine above). Aren't regulatory people nutty? So much for Art Model's negative "legacy." That guy had more flaws, known to the public, than Dick Nixon and Benedict Arnold combined. I gotta cents-'o-humor. Former independent weekly news rag (writer/editor of column newscan, scanning the news).

[@sparrow7984]

Gee I wonder why the NFL hated Baltimore. The city and state refused to do anything about their stadium and then tried to just TAKE the team. Not buy, just take. I would guess the other owners would want nothing to do with a place that attempted to just seize their property.

[@ishave1627]

@@sparrow7984 You obviously have no knowledge of NFL history other than this video. Similar scenarios have played out in other cities without the repercussions Baltimore suffered. The Raiders' move to LA in 1980 was marred with lawsuits from all sides, including from the city and an antitrust suit against the NFL by Al Davis. The Rams to St Louis and back to LA was also filled with political and legal threats against the NFL, including suits by the fans. In fact, the first choice of city to move the Rams to in 1995 was BALTIMORE. The NFL denied it.

[@sparrow7984]

@@ishave1627 and not a single one of those other examples had a state attempting to use eminent domain to literally TAKE the NFL team away from the owner and the NFL. Eminent Domain is government robbery. Not even close to similar to lawsuits and acrimony. And by the way, I've been watching and following the NFL for decades and also lived through the acrimony and lawsuits here in Washington when Ken Bering tried to take the Seahawks to LA.

[@ishave1627]

@@sparrow7984 Except in every case but Baltimore, the NFL stepped in to protect the original city and fans even though they all had the same problems: declining attendance/old stadium. The NFL owners voted against Oakland's move to LA and the Rams move out of LA (twice!). They forced Behring to sell the team to keep it in Seattle. The NFL owners voted UNANIMOUSLY to allow Irsay to move the Colts out of Baltimore, and unlike Cleveland years later, take the name and trademark. That's why the city of Baltimore had to find extreme efforts to keep the team - the NFL ABANDONED THEM! The eminent domain efforts started only after the NFL voted to allow Irsay to move the team. And like I said, it's been a shitshow by the NFL towards Baltimore ever since. Best qualified expansion team: DENIED First destination choice to move the LA Rams by the owner: DENIED Reaction to Art Modell moving the team from Cleveland: SELL THE TEAM

[@KevinFields777]

The Colts moving to Indianapolis in the middle of the night was the best birthday present a 7 year-old football-loving boy like myself could have asked for. Instantly became a Colts fan for life, through many bad years, several great years, and through some more muddled MEH years.

[@touchdown62]

Ahhh yes, the Rod Dowhower and Ron Meyer (sp?) years.

[@agustinjauregui5260]

You take that back about the Maryland Flag, it’s the best flag in the Union to put on shorts and socks

[@owensaunders6622]

As a proud owner of two pairs of Maryland socks, I agree.

[@faultyblender3590]

As someone who doesn't own a pair of either, I now know what I must do.

[@SkylarsTerribleMemes]

and a bumper sticker in the shape of a crab!

[@redfailhawk]

It’s the best flag in the damn country.

[@reluctantuser6971]

It's the best flag in the union for me to.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGbKkJqpa9Ohr9E

[@wifeoftheparty7107]

I'm from Baltimore I even spent several years in the ravens marching band. I also knew people that were in the band back when we had the Colts. The Colts moving was such a shock and upset the entire city for years. Fun fact that no one asked for nor cares about.....the Colts band became the Baltimore Pep band when there wasn't a team. Then when we got the Ravens the Baltimore Pep band became the Marching Ravens (yes that is what the band is called).

[@jayyyjude]

You missed on of the big hiccups with stadium negotiations. After the failure of the baltodome Irsay was able to negotiate a bunch of funds to at least attempt to modernize their garbage stadium, the Maryland legislature started to work on that but then said "sure we'll do this is you sign an unreasonably long lease to never leave this stadium" and both the Orioles and Colts told the legislature to pound sand

[@jeffbenton6183]

I mean, the teams have tons of money, I don't see why they can't pay for it themselves.

[@jayyyjude]

@@jeffbenton6183 this was the 80s before the NFL became a multibillion international entity. Being an owner back then didn't mean you were mega rich like you are now. Its also why a baseball and football team were sharing a stadium

[@ShainAndrews]

@@jayyyjude Makes a person wonder why they are so loaded with money today vs back then...

[@jayyyjude]

@@ShainAndrews Explosion of TV money and merchandising. Look up the work Jerry Jones did to massively expand the revenue of the NFL

[@phillipmel]

@@jayyyjude Good one, Jeff. Very good perspective from you. My (former) news-guy self just likes these inside commentaries. You are dead-on correct about the $ history part.

[@eggsngritstn]

"The government of Maryland would never take something from their citizens." - Spiro Agnew

[@phillipmel]

Maybe one of the few noteworthy things Spiro Agnew ever said. He was no friend of government. All he cared about was how much $ he made. He was so crooked, that Dick Nixon had to replace him (as US vice-president) with Gerald Ford. The rest of this is history. Good quote, eggsngrits, thank you. :- ) ~~~

[@eggsngritstn]

@@phillipmel Thanks. It was something I completely made up as a sarcastic joke. The joke is that it's something he would perhaps *say* but never actually *mean* .

[@adamdorgant9454]

And yet Baltimore was so stupid enough not to build a new stadium for the Colts, no wonder they moved to Indianapolis!!!!

[@whitrav]

Here is another forgotten history about Football in Baltimore. In 1995 just before the Ravens were created there was another Professional Football team in Baltimore called the Stallions, under the CFL. They even went onto win the Gray Cup that year.

[@BigJohnM]

This was interesting... I was 4 when the Colts left so of course I don't remember it. However I do remember growing up without a local football team until I was 16 when the Ravens came. NFL commissioner hated us and would not give us a team, that's why we had to buy/steal one. I can see why maybe they hated us because we tried to use the state Government to control something they should not be able to control.

[@theEWDSDS]

1:18 the colts: *"so wait, you mean we wont get to play in a giant dome recreation of balto!?!"*

[@billt8504]

I was there when the Mayflower Express happened. How come you didn't specifically mention Mayflower? Legal reasons? Supposedly, Mayflower lost a lot of business in Maryland after that. Also, neat side note: the Baltimore Colts had a marching band then. (One of the few NFL teams that did.) Somehow, someone in the band got advanced warning of the move, and they were able to "steal" the uniforms. Every band member owned their own instrument, but the uni's were provided by the Colts. So while the Colts football team left for Indy, the Colts Marching Band stayed in Bawlimer. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore%27s_Marching_Ravens#Background

[@gavintantleff]

My band director is actually in the marching ravens. The story is really cool.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

He had puns, he had jokes, he had everything for this one.

[@handlemonium]

And it happened in 1984.

[@prakharmishra3000]

And you're here again

[@SWIFTO_SCYTHE]

50 semi trucks taking dozens of paths to avoid any blockades. That is insanely crazy.

[@diegoreig4708]

The hank green reference was weird bc I thought: that's something hank would do. And then a couple hours later he dropped a video on anglerfish reproduction

[@miatra4954]

3:30 the fact that this video was uploaded before the scishow video on anglerfish fusion mating is hilarious to me

[@delusionnnnn]

Imagine how little taste you'd have to have to think the Maryland's medieval badass flag wasn't awesome.

[@phillipmel]

Yeah, many people did . . . .in . . . uh . . . like 1798. You are correct and dead-on with your "medieval" descriptive adjuctive. What "taste"? : - ) ~~~

[@matthewparsons9407]

It isn't imo

[@ricardobortolon5929]

He never said it was bad, just that it looks like a seizure feels

[@alfonsrasmus4710]

Last time I was this early I had a decent joke

[@kono12345]

the

[@dbk7713]

Wow

[@KSPAtlas]

I have one: H

[@--2]

Alfons Rasmus, but then 2020 came around, and all your jokes became true...

[@alfonsrasmus4710]

@@LeetHaxington what?

[@finaoo1167]

The Browns move was pretty interesting. The Ravens franchise is actually a new franchise, and the Cleveland Browns sold all of its personnel to that new franchise, then the Browns drafted and acquired a whole new set of players.

[@burningisis]

I remember seeing those Mayflower trucks leaving in the middle of the night. It wasnt like Marylanders didnt know it was happening. It was all over the news about the Colts leaving. It was heartbreaking though and we went so long without a football team. Then did the same thing to Cleveland.

[@UrpleSquirrel]

1:08 "A state flag that looks the way having a seizure feels" EXCUSE YOU, SIR. The Maryland flag is excellent in terms of branding. No other state flag is as recognizable, colorful, and easy to put on a huge variety of crab-shaped tchotchkes! We have a better flag than Virginia, at least!

[@JC42023]

Well IDK about colorful and the crab-shaped tchotchkes, but as for recognizable, Im afraid I have to go with Colorado on this one

[@malicahraimey5780]

Just faxxx

[@joedellinger9437]

It’s so bad it’s good, according to CGP Grey.

[@MarsJenkar]

It's a hell of a lot better than the seal-on-a-blue-bedsheet that most states seem to have.

[@SLDFMechWarrior]

I didn't even know you could seize a NFL team. I can only imagine the faces on the state officials when they found their old faculties abandoned in the morning.

[@avwholesomegamer]

The Colts actually left behind their marching band! The uniforms were at the cleaners that night, and all the people were local. There’s an ESPN 30 for 30 about it!

[@Meth0Mothiscool]

I'm rooting for the Joustin' Jokes

[@michaelkelleypoetry]

Meanwhile, a town in Wisconsin with a population of only 100,000 actually does own their NFL team and is sitting pretty with it forever because it's so iconic it will never be moved.

[@adamdorgant9454]

You’re right about that!!!

[@turbo_marc]

0:30 bold to assume anyone actually watches on nebula

[@cmxxvii]

This was by far the funniest video on the channel

[@Golfnut_2099]

"A great event where cars turn left 800 times..." Love it!!!

[@FreewayBrent]

I'm a pretty diehard 49ers fan, and a fan of football in general. There's a lot of things in this video regarding the Colts' move to Indianapolis that I had never read or heard about before...great video!

[@mjrc123]

HEY. Oceans 12 was a reasonably interesting film. You could say, half as interesting as Oceans 11.

[@tessat338]

I was a senior in high school when this happened. The team owner and the Maryland state government had been going back and forth about a new stadium for years. It was a very sad day in Maryland when we woke up to find that the team had moved out in the night. Memorial Stadium was pretty crappy, uncomfortable and inconveniently located. We used to go to see baseball games there. The only football game I ever saw there was a University of Maryland Terps game when I was in college. I learned a lot about Baltimore geography getting lost trying to drive there. Baltimore now has two newer, much better stadiums (or is that stadia?) and old Memorial Stadium was demolished and detonated in 2001.

[@steveburke1519]

I knew this was the Colts when I saw the title. I was a senior in HS in 1984, and I lived (and still live) about 3 miles from the Hoosier Dome (now demolished). Also not mentioned in the video, Baltimore sued (let me see if I remember all parties) The NFL. The Colts, Indiana, Indianapolis, Mayor Hudnut, and my little brother...ok maybe I got one of these wrong. If I remember correctly, they also tried the eminent domain argument from across state lines. Also not mentioned by name, the moving company was Mayflower.

[@Noobert]

this was thoroughly interesting

[@CSLucasEpic]

Me before the video starts: This is going to be about the Colts, isn't it? Me after watching the video: Yeah, it was about the Colts. BTW, they moved almost everything. They didn't move the team's band, which remained in Baltimore and is now the band for the new NFL Baltimore team. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Band_That_Wouldn%27t_Die

[@Aragon1500]

Yep colts left the band I laughed so hard when I learned that

[@always-alicia]

Teams have bands? What is this... college?

[@Aragon1500]

Only 2 nfl teams have bands

[@maninredhelm]

NFL bands are a Maryland thing. Conversely, only 6 NFL teams don't have a Cheerleading squad. Most of those are in the Great Lakes region.

[@satyaacharya8451]

The band that wouldn't die

[@DarkMephiles]

"Their state flag looks the way having a seizure feels." As somebody with epilepsy that's actually a fairly accurate comparison.

[@vaszgul736]

same, but it also looks like a visual migraine neither good

[@phillipmel]

That's the wierdest national or state banner that I've ever seen. So here's the why this odd-ball flag: It the early days of colonial settlement, many (future state) areas were like mini-kingdoms, so some of the emblems, banners and flags reflected the aristocratic nature the various governmental leaderships. That's why the colonial people backed the revolution.

[@kalina8285]

@@phillipmel I mean, you're sort of right. This is the actual meaning: the maroon and white portion of the flag are from the Crossland family crest, and the black and yellow portions are from the Calvert family, who were a major founder. Next they will be coming for Old Bay...

[@phillipmel]

@@kalina8285 Thanks for your note to me. This helps remind me that people, especially in New England, and the north Atlantic coast are that much more traditional, and regardful of their historical origins, symbolized by these state flags. Some of it was first more of the times of kingdoms, an MUCH LATER the so-called "Revolution". An interesting fact: in the 1750's and 1760's Ben Franklin was in England, doing his newspaper work. When he went back to the colonies, the non-crown-favorable colonials DID NOT TRUST his loyalty. But he was a truly gifted, and dipomatic progressive inventor. Also, I live in SoCal. If I were to ask any Ca-ers, what animal is on the Calif. flag (golden bear) they'd go ---> Huh? Duh.

[@peppermint_8]

When you say “Colts” it sounds like “cults.” Really adds to the story.

[@szinpad_kezedet]

1:06 'Whose flag looks like the way having a seizure feels', that got me so good I had to pause the video for a bit just to stop laughing.

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

Hank made an appearance? If that’s the case I’m rooting for the Vlogging Vlogbrothers

[@phillipmel]

Good one, Kim.

[@chocolatechipslime]

You are everywhere on you tube huh

[@ryanturney6221]

As someone who lives a half hour away from Baltimore, I already knew which team you were talking about when I looked at the title

[@sxes]

Ah yes, classic Half as Interesting. Stretching out a one word answer into a 5 minute video by adding ads, puns, and stock videos.

[@KelsomaticPDX]

Legislature is pronounced "ledge-iss-lay-chur" Not the same as legislator

[@Anaguma79]

No, we just have the one guy making all the state laws.

[@kinderboeken55]

Ok nerd

[@krakenmetzger]

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[@dlwatib]

I came down to the comments to make sure somebody had already said that... or I would have to.

[@harand4life]

I appreciate the reverance with which you honored Maryland's official state sport, jousting.

[@seungjunrhee]

3:30 My excitement is immeasurable and my day is lightened

[@christopherg2347]

4:40 I think what the ravens wanted to say was "Cleaveland? Nevermore..."

[@markstoudt7769]

Why is this not talked about more? Seriously, this is a total abuse of power.

[@switchplayer1016]

4:41 and thus began the tradition of every browns fan hating the ravens.

[@isaacsamuel1278]

Didn’t we just shit on you guys 😂😂😂😂

[@AirForceNut]

Yeah the Browns move to Baltimore is rough... but I can tell you there were strong feelings in Maryland to make sure we didn't do the same thing to Cleveland that Irsay did to Baltimore. People did not want to steal the Brown's name or history, like Indianapolis did with the Colts. I'd say given how Baltimore lost the Colts it was nearly as important to Marylanders that Cleveland got to keep the Browns history/name and rebuild it as it was for Cleveland.

[@t.c.thompson2359]

@@AirForceNut Bullshit, they tried to do that very thing, Cleveland is the one that stopped that, Baltimore is just as much a thief as Indy, they just were worse at it.

[@joermnyc]

Yes, “that bit at the end of the field” needs to be official! “He’s at the 20, the 10, and he waltzs into that bit at the end of the field! Touchdown”

[@bane2201]

"Hyman Pressman" is already an incredibly weird name (read it fast), then he had to get the goofiest title imaginable.

[@adamdorgant9454]

I know Right!!!!!

[@JustSheilz]

I was a child when this happened and my grandfather wouldnt allow us to watch football for many years after.

[@nickjanczak2001]

growing up in baltimore i’ve heard this story 1000 times. it’s cool to see it on youtube!!!

[@tyroland06]

Finally! A sports HAI video!

[@menachemdavid3535]

Hey Colts, go long. I’m running.... all right I’m at the end of the field.... Keep going! I’m outside the stadium.... Keep going! I’m no longer inside the city... Well you’re getting warmer.

[@sethhammen4640]

How the hell has this not been made into a movie

[@adamdorgant9454]

I was wondering the same thing!!!

[@chinaberg]

"Legislator"? I think you mean "Legislature."

[@jesusdiscipledon1499]

“Nothing scares people more than allusions to narrative poetry.” Damn right.

[@forky2589]

Marylanders do not take well to people insulting the flag.

[@danielbickford3458]

The only people who are allowed to mock our flag is us

[@holyassbutts]

I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over this seizure I'm having

[@Joey64518]

This is the final straw First they lied to me about the brick videos, now this? Sorry hai, I’m taking my viewership elsewhere

[@brookeking8559]

MaggsDroid, LOL!

[@AVeryRandomPerson]

As a Californian, I say that you have the worst flag in the nation, even though I didn't care about who had the worst flag until I read this comment.

[@bobturing]

By far one of the best HAI videos yet.

[@shanechurilla]

I’ve never heard a better description of my state flag 😂

[@Hoosier868]

It was the mayor of Indy not Irsay who sent out the moving trucks. His neighbor was the owner of the company

[@shivanshkhandelwal859]

Irsay: My Legislature: Our Irsay : Bye

[@adamdorgant9454]

True!!!

[@steve-marsh]

What an awesome story! Should be a movie!

[@harshdharpawar3183]

Captain America: I can watch such videos all day!

[@artistwithouttalent]

4:01 I think it was Hudnut who had the friend who happened to own a major interstellar trucking company.

[@jasonchappell9694]

Interstellar? So they take freight not only other planets, but entire other solar systems?

[@artistwithouttalent]

@@jasonchappell9694 it's a Hitchhiker's Guide reference. Look up Effrafax of Wug

[@FireboltPrime]

4:48 how to strike fear into your AFC North opponents: read poetry by Edgar Allen Poe

[@Pow3llMorgan]

Hey, that shot at Hank Green is totally uncalled for! Hilarious - but uncalled for!

[@espeon200]

I mean, poetry in general scares me… so… valid tactic?

[@brianzumbrook9120]

I love this channels self-awareness so much. One of my favorite qualities of the channel, and I love the jokes!

[@jona4919]

This was quarter as interesting, I need more wendover videos

[@myrandomlife8881]

"When cars turn left 800 times"😂