Why Are Archers Fat?

[@thesteve580]

I always knew I had the physic of an Olympic athlete!

[@greywolfwalking6359]

Me 2! " WORLD CLASS SHAPE! Just like a pear! Lol!

[@karlsjostedt8415]

... in a sport with very little competition... Even competitive video gamers benefit from being physically fit, there just is not that much competition in archery to where fitness makes enough of a difference... The bigger and more competitive the sport gets, we will see more and more archers taking fitness seriously.

[@kasaghn2]

Physique *

[@TheFenrirulfr]

@@karlsjostedt8415 Even top chess players stay in shape.

[@Dragon-Slay3r]

base gym

[@demos113]

Runners chase the prey, archers let the arrow do that bit. ;-)

[@psiFellow]

This is what’s known as Archer’s Paradox.

[@Australian_Made]

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[@FreakyHimmel]

I thought the archers paradox was how the arrow flung around the bow at launch? Is this just a joke? 😭 I'm sorry man I'm retarded 🗿

[@IREFUSE9]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@beargillium2369]

Helps to stabilize against the wind 🌬️😆

[@ahmadkhilfi2620]

Obviously to have a good center of gravity, mass to resist wind drift, and acts as vibration dampener when shaking lmao

[@DasCube01]

"it's my dampener fat" 😆

[@gafanhotogamer5993]

HEAVY QUESTION!!!

[@iamrocketray]

As an elderly overweight(not obese) man, archery is one of the few sports I can indulge in without having to go running every day or go to the gym to keep in shape, I love archery, but I am not keen on strenuous exercise or heavy dieting.

[@Saint_Arod]

I feel attacked 😂. I got back into archery after gaining a heft of weight last year from an accident, but I plan to slim back down ASAP.

[@sngs9565]

Hope you are better and well!

[@dorachau5900]

Me and you both brother. Even though running is looked down upon (for some reason). I've been running a lot for my weight loss exercises and it's working. Also eating decently but not strictly.

[@joelireland5477]

I love how tactfully you handled this question. Props to you on this, handled very professionally.

[@CMCCCH]

The king in the show disenchanted said it best "a sport that doesn't involve much moving" or something along those lines

[@Seeloknya_Sebaiknya]

the main point i get from this video is archery is for every type of body, gender, and age.. i'm now late 30 and beginner to archery, mainly traditional archery.. so i can compete with more younger archer and still have chance to compete to qualify for Olympic and be Olympic / World champion!! Archery can be done without gender separation!!

[@AndyWragg]

I find as I get older the effectiveness of the "Dad Bod" is often under rated. :-)

[@infinity345]

Spot on. The physical diversity you see in competitive archers is not a product of what is necessary for success, but instead a reflection of the fact that waistline measurements have a negligible impact on archer performance. For any sport, physical build comes down to how success is measured. You'll see a correlation between more "athletic" builds and success being a function of moving the athlete over a distance in the shortest possible time. Moving more mass more quickly requires more power. The more power you're trying to generate, the harder it is to sustain that power for longer. Being successful requires athletes to minimise mass while maximising power output (power to weight ratio) for the required duration of their activity. For example, 100m sprinters tend to have more muscle bulk because they're optimised to generate extremely high power, but only for a very short duration. Long distance runners opt to be lighter so that they can run lower, more sustainable power output for very long durations. In target archery the athlete remains stationary, so power to weight ratio is irrelevant. What matters is the muscles required to draw the bow string, position the bow, and stabilise the body.

[@NUSensei]

It's interesting to note that the burst-potential of a sprinter is idolised through media ("the fastest man alive!") and their physique represents the peak of human fitness, while the thinner long-distance runners are sidelined even though they might look unhealthier than the "overweight" athletes in other sports.

[@infinity345]

​@@NUSensei Indeed. Perhaps some of that can be attributed to media's inherent love of sensationalism. Really we should be qualifying that as "Fastest man alive (over 100m)!" I'm sure there's someone faster than the Olympic gold medallist over 1m. ;) It's also worth wondering whether the sprinter physique is idolised in that way because it's visibly fast, or because it conveniently aligns with the media's concept of a perfect physique?

[@garymickus6412]

@@NUSensei one of the most interesting discussions on your channel.

[@Seeloknya_Sebaiknya]

@@infinity345 should pinned this comment..

[@Fender1031]

"Not going to call anyone out" then proceeds to do a photo montage haha. The invention of archery "Id like to stab that guy, but he is way over there" .... comes to mind.

[@casper.the.exracer]

Very interesting point! I suppose with horseback archery most people are ‘average’ shape cause of the rest of the work we have to do. Shovelling shit for example 😂

[@iamrocketray]

lol, that never occured to me. but i bet you grow the best roses in the neighbourhood.

[@casper.the.exracer]

@@iamrocketray the rose competition is fierce around here lol the apple orchard looks awesome though!

[@karenmarriott9809]

Just discovered your videos and so excited you are still making them! Thanks so much for the wonderful content & humour. I have just started archery & have learned so much, Cheers from rural NSW

[@hailsithis2246]

I think you are my favorite youtuber, you're a very cool person Nusensei

[@Erik_The_Dane]

Archers can shoot their own food, so they are not starving.

[@magiicZed]

It's kind of funny because in almost all cinema, archers are portrayed as some reserved, skinny, stoic who want to be left alone but a lot of them are really the opposite and passionate about their hobby.

[@magicknight8412]

This is one thing I love about archery there is no ideal physique or age etc, anyone can be good at it. My club for example has such a range of people. Men, women, children, teenagers, thin, large, in a wheelchair, quite old, experienced, newbies (me!) and most of them are pretty darn good!

[@GameOver-fn2og]

If you put 2-3 hours per day to shooting, you don't have enough time to do other activity.

[@kan-zee]

The beauty about Pleasantly Plumb Bowmen is that ...In world competitions, your body size, has no affect on your ability to use a stick and string , hitting a target....Anyone can learn and do it....doesn't matter if your 200 or 300 lbs or 4' - 7 ' tall or 15yrs - 90 yrs old... Everyone is an Olympian.

[@marctull3596]

Snarky comments notwithstanding (many of which I enjoyed) I think the better question is why so many archers are deconditioned. My archery improved dramatically and I greatly reduced muscle aches after I started a regular conditioning program. I prefer 3D as opposed to static archery. In addition to 30 minutes of archery 5 days a week, I walk at least a mile each day and practice another 30 minutes of beginner yoga postures. If I can do this at 71, all archers should be able to add some reasonable conditioning program to their practice. The vast majority of us will never have Ms. Loring’s physique, we will all enjoy archery more and improve with conditioning.

[@AVOinc]

Because we are not allowed to run to retrieve our arrows? Safety rule #3.

[@Australian_Made]

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[@wardscandles7662]

NU sensei I would like to say thank you when I first started into archery even though I am a compound bow hunter Archer I studied your videos almost religiously to learn as much as I could and I learned so much from you and I'm still learning so much from you thank you thank you thank you and please continue to do what you are doing.

[@ghoztfaze093]

yes i am an archer and i am overweight beware we r like bears i mean teddy bear and girls like to hugs us!

[@gabithemagyar]

For me it's because I tend to get hungry after a day at the range and stop for fast food on the way home :-) Negates all the calories I burn retrieving arrows ....

[@AVOinc]

Me too, a nice coffee and sweet treat. Especially if the last end was disappointment. 😁

[@sahhull]

Walking 180m every end works the leg muscles. Then theres the extra walking around the field looking for other peoples missed arrows.

[@blackmarketstarlight2983]

Archery builds back muscles, it doesn't provide weight loss etc

[@PurpleDracos]

We like to think of it as compound counterbalance.

[@ralfgrosser4443]

They are fat, because archery is about enjoying the good life. This includes good food.

[@omersyed1793]

Great video! Well explained!

[@amblinxy9920]

Hey Nusensi I'm a new player to war thunder and your old tank guides help me a lot to understand each tank thank you! 😄

[@dace48]

In the UK ELB/field shoots are usually a sport for older men and are always accompanied with real ale and pies so that answers that.

[@domovoibutler42]

To look ripped while being an archer, ya gotta lift or run on the side, basically, it's more of a personal effort than a requirement! :D! I, too, wanna be fitter than now to not show my belly when shooting!

[@karlsjostedt8415]

Not a requirement, but overall fitness will help you be a better archer. If there was more top competition then we would see all the competitive archers be in shape. They would be looking for every tiny edge they could get because the competition would be so closely matched between a huge number of competitors...

[@domovoibutler42]

@@karlsjostedt8415 I'm more than certain those who compete at the Olympic are fit! Even those fat looking archers from Korea! Training in the Olympic centers would require a certain level of fitness to be met as a daily routine as well. Also those Korean archers have very stable and low heart rates when shooting, that means they trained very well. It is not a requirement to be abs tight fit, that's personal effort. These guys with bellies are more fit than you think with more than enough muscle strength and mental calmness!

[@marcelllovas1465]

it is pretty easy : archery is a standing, relaxing, literally not moving sport or martial art. You are using only verz few muscles, and it wont burn literally any extra fat, no matter how heavy is your bow. You burn more fat to going and picking up your arrows from the target than from a 2 hour shooting session. However if you are a horseback archer you will become lesser fat, it burns some fat to trying to stay on a horse while shooting.

[@Zequintiny]

I'm closer to Mete Gazoz, in terms of shape. I hope it's like having longer stabilizers, instead of adding more weight.

[@mRibbons]

Forgive me for giggling through this entire video. 🤭

[@ujjawal..720]

Good work brother 👍 love from India

[@alexanerose4820]

Because your opponent won't get to admire your gains when they have an arrow between their eyes from a few hundred yards unless you're pulling off the archery equivalent of Gun fu in the front lines or are trying to be a Legolas

[@peternguyen1911]

For lunch today, I ate two donuts followed by four slices of pizza, AND I WASN'T EVEN HUNGRY

[@sisyphus1985]

Skeet shooters are often heavy too.

[@Bowfella]

Pretty simple explanation. Archery is not physically demanding sport. It doesn't require stamina or a large amount of strength. However if you look at bow-hunters, many of them are in athletic shape. Getting close to an animal takes a lot of rigorous footwork while hauling extra weight. Not only that heavier draw weight is prioritized over super precise accuracy. The isolated act of archery is not a physically demanding activity.

[@vksasdgaming9472]

It is physically demanding sport, but in different manner.

[@Twm532]

I know people that deny that weightlifting and cardio helps with archery which is just dumb. Some people will invent any excuse not to exercise

[@F14Goose37]

Agreed. I can say that right now I am in the worst shape I have been since I picked up a bow and I notice. I sit all day and learn because I am in a training program at my job and have been for almost a year now. I stopped running before work, eat like crap and gained 20lbs during that time. I am a better archer today than I was a year ago, but that comes down to practice and learning. I definitely feel off more often now than I used to, my heart rate gets elevated more easily, which I notice when I shoot, and muscle fatigue seems to set in more noticeably than it used to even though I still shoot 60-100 arrows a day. Being in shape definitely helps, and I need to get back there before December when I have my next backpack hunt.

[@arthurfleck8777]

So what you're saying is I have the body of an Olympic Athlete?, thanks I needed a confidence boost for today 😀🤗

[@JohnLundSweden]

cus modern archery is a traditional sport, try mounted archery and you'll be more fit

[@LKH9Channel]

Fat archers have built-in stabilizer and absorbs recoil

[@JohnJohnson-fm1gy]

Archers aren't athletic but the act of archery itself is athletic? That's what I'm hearing.

[@andrewlaw8121]

New Olympic event. Cross country running , climbing with archery shooting interspersed 😂

[@NUSensei]

Run archery is already a thing, but of course without the climbing part.

[@peterhagan8454]

rest the lower bow on the tummy for stabilising

[@allywilkeforsenate]

Because we don’t have to chase our food.

[@bcxii9684]

Archers are fat because it provides counter balance during the draw of bow, much like how they have two stabilizers stuck of out the bow on both sides.

[@johndenver5029]

I tried to draw the bow like the guy in the video behind my head...now my head is stuck ....i knew i shouldve went with a setup with a longer brace height

[@archerry6457]

If compound archers could drive up to the shooting line to shoot, they would.

[@joeydehart3429]

The real question is why Archers drive backwards lol

[@Tradhunter]

It’s to keep themselves steady in the wind when they shoot.

[@casperaaron5530]

What I’ve learned from this comment section is that a lot of archers are kind of jerks

[@johncarlofernandez2698]

Young female archers: *surprised Pikachu face*

[@elrobbo6]

Except a bunch of the female archers are freaking gorgeous...

[@jessicaholden3019]

Fat and gorgeous aren't contradictory.

[@dick-gs9tb]

@@jessicaholden3019 Yes they are. Cope all you want.

[@elrobbo6]

@@jessicaholden3019 lol, did you look at the female archers?

[@Kruziik]

@@jessicaholden3019 I don't think being overweight and unhealthy is "gorgeous", and it shouldn't be glamorized

[@casperaaron5530]

@@Kruziik you… you do know you can be overweight and be healthy?

[@Australian_Made]

Fantastic Topic

[@adamkilroe9840]

Can't... comment...mnmnmm... eating.

[@FPChris]

Brady Ellison lost some noticeable weight recently

[@lordcarnorjax8599]

Brady's got thyroid issues which is what led to the weight gain and weight management is more difficult for people with thyroid problems.

[@HimmeetValot]

Weightlifters also often look fat, not like Arnold Schwarzenegger esque bodybuilders. Visually looking fat doesnt mean you aren't super strong and athletic

[@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight]

Maybe we should bring back combat archery.

[@mikefirthy]

we dont run ,we dont have to walk far , and i love a beer after all that hard work

[@oldcowbb]

i'm thinking about trying archery, and i am indeed fat

[@cheesewagon85]

Beer gut counts as a second anchor point advantage.

[@qaz120120]

Why were archers replaced by muskets in combat?

[@NUSensei]

Scale. It was easier to make many muskets at an industrial level and train unskilled people to use them in a shorter amount of time. Bows and arrows were an artisan-level weapon that took time to make, and took longer for its users to master. It was cheaper and easier for someone armed with musket to do what an archer could.

[@qaz120120]

@@NUSensei Thank you. Another related question: Why did not all infantry in the medieval period carry a bow? A small simple bow and a couple of arrows just to shoot at the enemy direction while not in melee.

[@codyrivenburgh7645]

Target archers may be fat...but most archery hunters I know are in atleast decently good shape....and the gun hunters are the fat ones

[@Martinko_Pcik]

They don't exercise enough. It is amazing how much talking you can do about the simplest topics. It is a gift.

[@thegentilehunter]

long bow archers are so fat because they need a extra point of contact.

[@AndysAverageAdventures]

It took me years to perfect this belly

[@DesiArcher]

Thanks 4 me helping out in reddit 😍

[@greywolfwalking6359]

I guess it is safe to say then, that an archer is part of a sedentary sport... however, a " bow hunter", is an active participant..ergo..tends to be in the " idea of".. fit n trim look category? Be a bow hunter/fisher... be trim n fit??? Lol!

[@F14Goose37]

Well, Western bow hunting anyways. Sitting in a tree stand near a feed lot is not really that active.

[@greywolfwalking6359]

@@F14Goose37 Indeed, that is why I prefer the " traditional, ' stalk n shoot' method".. up close n personal...! On the move all of the time. N I don't wait 1/2 the day once I harvest, I recover n drag/ carry my ( harvest ) out to process immediately! In the south, heat, is a bad thing with your harvest!

[@F14Goose37]

@@greywolfwalking6359 I can relate. Heat is a real concern here in Arizona too. Especially during the August/September early archery deer season, or all the elk rut hunts (although most of the elk areas are littered with roads, so getting your truck relaticely close to your kill is pretty easy usually).

[@greywolfwalking6359]

@@F14Goose37 yes,agreed! I lived near Cloudcroft ,New Mexico, for 5 years..(in the Weed/Timberon vicinity)....the terrain alone ,will keep you on your toes!

[@Australian_Made]

Sumo archery

[@dash4177]

Have you done a video showing the use of the bow as an exercise tool?

[@NUSensei]

SPTs - Specific Physical Training: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXa3fKWae61njs0

[@dash4177]

@@NUSensei cheers mate

[@AVOinc]

Yeah, until you accidentally let go of that string and blow your bow up. That can get costly. If you want to do that exercise, get yourself an exercise band. Costs less when they snap.

[@NUSensei]

@@AVOinc There's no "accidentally" letting go with your fingers. If that happens, it's purposeful, or you have a muscle or nerve disorder which you really should get checked out. Additionally, the chances of the bow blowing up from a dry fire are quite low, given that these risers and limbs are put through hundreds of dry fire shots in testing. SPTs have been a common training method for decades and is used at top level. Stretching bands are a very good substitute, but it's not dangerous to use the bow.

[@AVOinc]

@@NUSensei I would respectfully disagree. You loose concentration for a second and just slightly relax your fingers and the string will pull itself out of your fingers. But please don’t tell me how well build these bows are. I’ve seen two Olympic recurve bows blow up at our club in the 8 years if been involved with archery. In both occasions the limb tips were ripped off of the limbs, on one a tiller bolt was bent and both loops on both strings were ripped apart. I don’t give advice lightly when it comes to archery because I don’t always feel I’m qualified to do so, but when I do it’s because I’m confident I know what I’m talking about because I’ve lived it. It’s your equipment, do with it as you wish just be warned that things can go wrong.

[@Australian_Made]

Fantastic Question

[@sweejus17]

Mete Gazoz :)) An Olimpic Champ :) he is preety slim like u said

[@pacificbowmen7384]

archers are slim compared to ten pin bowlers and power lifters

[@mr.noscope4916]

Love this

[@reemaomar8008]

I was confused a little bit when i read the title because I didn’t thought of that before 😅 but nice video 👍🏻

[@Dragon-Slay3r]

You need arms when you go to the gym, don't really need arms at base?

[@potterhouse5203]

Target archery.... I'm sure moving archers are not generally fat

[@BeardRubEnjoyer]

Because PEDs don't make you a better Archer.

[@onthatdirtroad]

Shooting 9-Ball is a SPORT too!

[@EdibleOutdoors]

Stop calling me fat. I am big boned.

[@akademiawesomearchery]

Funny question but real

[@blackspeed69007]

Because they were fat and unfit before and chose archery. The beauty of Archery being so inclusive is also why most people unfit for any active sports can end up as archers. Archery doesn't make you fat but doesn't make you healthy neither. All it does is putting a massive load on your heart and central nervous system without putting your body in aerobic mode. Pro archer heart rate goes up to 180 in matchplay with barely any muscular intensity. You don't burn much more calories than you'd do at Masal Metabolic Rate. Saying that, the 2 new individual gold medalists were slim, (Ann san) et skinny (Mete). With the general population getting more and more overweighted (67% of Australians are overweighted, +7% in 5 years), fit archers will become a rarity.

[@blackspeed69007]

typo: Basal Metabolic Rate ;-) , not Masal

[@peterhagan8454]

large darts is what bow and arrow

[@dorachau5900]

It's definitely skill and talent. And it does require an amount of physical control. NOT STREGNTH But when you observe most archery competitions, they're mostly stationary. And they are not required to move to point A to B. Now, warrior archers are moving. Archers who hunt, are moving.

[@nathanielkidd2840]

Then you look at Joe Gibbs, one of the very few people that can handle the upper limits of a longbow. Not a small guy by any means, but not fat.

[@NUSensei]

On the flip side, you have Mark Stretton, who is equally legendary in war bow shooting circles but quite a stocky man.

[@charlieliao8021]

The archer class is really made up of archers!

[@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347]

My posterior kinetic chain rocks, anterior not so much. I imagine many archers are the same.

[@justinvzu01]

Personally the way I look at things is that archery isn't a sport, but a skill. There's not really any exercise, aside from back muscles. I think it's as much of a sport as horseback riding.

[@misterpayah7723]

I don't know how to feel about all the euphemisms used in this video ("round", "massive") - they kind of make it worse I feel.

[@NUSensei]

Don't let it weigh on you.

[@Australian_Made]

@@NUSensei lololololololololololol

[@HornetsNest-MH]

Great! My Olympic dreams are still alive then! 🤭

[@sevenrats]

It is not an athletic sport. Nobody is ever going to "get fit" by doing archery.

[@DustinLeroy]

let me say this. Mete Gazoz.

[@karlsjostedt8415]

It will absolutely help to be in peak physical and mental fitness when doing archery... There just is not enough elite competition for that to be the standard... Even chess and video game players benefit from being physically fit and we see those trends in the competitive scenes... Archery will get there if there is ever enough elite competition...

[@NUSensei]

It's interesting that you put up the hypothetical increase in competitiveness being a driver for fitness. In S. Korea, where archery is an elite competitive sport, we still see the top archers (Kim Woojin, Oh Jin Hyek) being big-bodied despite their professional status and daily training routine, which makes top archers from other countries look like high school kids. The focus on archery training simply isn't in overall fitness.

[@Toms3rdNut]

Too much food. Not enough work.