WHY Are People Still Buying These CPUs? - AMD FX Series in 2023

[@matthewbim10]

I just threw $80 at some parts to get my old 8350 build going again, wish me luck!

[@christophercarlone9945]

How'd it go?!

[@enzofarias6717]

Update??

[@doctorWHO_ey]

me too, my r9 390 8gb died=upgraded to rx 580...whoop. im at 4.8ghz 24/7

[@DoodMang7]

@@doctorWHO_eyare you running custom fan maps for your gpu? the factory sets the cards with very low fan speeds to keep them quiet. my rx480 fan speed is set to 40 percent minimum and when it hits 60c its at 100 percent. That really helps with gpu life span. my bad if this is obvious just want to help 😅

[@thebeginingtechnichian]

i have an fx8150 pc stil not my daily anymore but iplayed warthunder on it in 2020 its good enough for peaople with not a lot of money

[@craig71686]

I built a computer in 2016 with an FX 8320e. The processor was $90 new. It has been overclocked to 4.4Ghz. I mainly just use the computer for testing now but paired with a GTX 1650 it actually runs modern games pretty well. Able to get 30fps or higher on most modern titles with medium and or low settings. Newer games being able to utilize more cores has helped the FX chips to age pretty well for being how old they are now.

[@jotabe1984]

i built mine also in 2016... an Fx8350 w/saber 990fx r2... I used to overclock it to 4.4ghz but honestly it wasn't needed except for some games that i never really played. So after 2 years of usage i rolled back to "improved stock" (4.0/4.3t) Hardest game i throw on the Fx was shadow of the tomb raider and it took it fairly good Allways 16gb (2x8 hyperX Fury 1866mhz) DDR3 RAM + (first) R7 370 4gb / (second) Rx 570 4gb / (and last) Rx 580 4gb. The best pair for the CPU was the 570, i think it was as far as the cpu can fairly take without a bottleneck. Now i just build a Ryzen setup, i get a used R5 1600 + b350 mobo and i will upgrade cpu soon enough... to be fair, it is not that far away the Fx8350 to the R5 1600... despite having NVME SSD vs SATA3 SSD, i don't feel that much of a gap (using the same Rx 580 4gb). but the gap between the Fx8350 and the R7 3700x (or 5700g or even 5700x) will be massive in every aspect. At the end of the day, the best gpu you can pair a cpu with (without bottleneck) will determine the life of it... Back in the day Fx6300 was expected to be paired with a GTX 960 4gb / R9 380 4gb at best... and these gpus are quite obsolete, therefore cpu won't cut it anyway... But fx8350 could take a GTX980, or a R9 390... so a Rx 570 with newer drivers sits around the same performance of these old gpus... and that's the spot for the Fx... still usable for maybe 2 more years at best

[@Dragon_6952]

Bende var fx 8320 gtx 1080 ti 4 k birçok oyunda 60 fps alıyorum

[@happycat0411]

I put together a system using an FX 8300 and the AMD FX setup was about as fast as an i7 2600 if not faster! Got all the parts for about $20 and wanted to see if the AMD FX 8300 could really perform and it actually does! Where the FX processors really shine is with games and software that can actually make use of all 8 cores as cores are REAL CPUs, (and not useless threads) as I have mentioned earlier in a post above! Just pair the AMD with a good GPU and you have a good computer for a dirt cheap price!

[@z33thr33]

Want to buy an 8350? I have a spare

[@craig71686]

​No thanks. I'm about to retire my FX system anyway. ​@@z33thr33

[@FOXeye95]

I'm still using an fx8350, keeps me warm when my room is a bit chilly

[@EddieJarnowski]

Totally lol. When i max out setting i could heat a small apartment with mine.

[@ronch550]

If you want the same room warming feature in a modern CPU, Intel is for you.

[@fungo6631]

I hope you paired it with a GTX 480

[@DoodMang7]

i got an enermax air cooler on my 9370 and it idles at 5c and maxes at 50c with mx6 thermal paste i benchmarked it and it maxed like 51-52c

[@KingSnake377]

@@DoodMang7 for some reason a lot of AMD chips from that era didn't report temp correctly, unless the room that it's in is actually near freezing temp.

[@kekistanifreedomfighter4197]

I think in the big picture that despite their flaws, it got a lot of people up & running with affordable custom PCs. When it first came out, it was competitive in multithreading for the price. Plus as it aged, more software caught up & became more multithreaded. These weren't powerhouse chips (except for the power consumption, lol.) But they were cheap, & that's what mattered to a lot of people at the time.

[@A-BYTE94]

nah, they are not good

[@allensastre5891]

@@A-BYTE94 i love how your response to his comment is basically "nuh uh"

[@allensastre5891]

newer games that definitely benefit from more cores but it'll struggle with minecraft and csgo 😂it can still game for sure, it can drive apex to over 100fps and well into the 160s in indoor scenarios in 2023 so that might surprise some people considering the i5s that it could barely compete with in its time might struggle to even launch newer games that demand more than 4 threads.

[@tonymontalvo2004]

I had the 8120 when it first came out in hindsight I should have gone Intel it did manage to game okay I used it up until ryzen first generation. Which was Leaps and Bounds better

[@jims_junk]

Everyone likes to say that they were good for the price. The problem with that argument is that AMD previously released the Athlons and Phenoms for less than their competitors CPU's. The Athlon and Phenoms could complete and sometimes even out perform them. For instance. The Athlon x2 was cheaper than a Pentium D yet it blew it away. The Phenom's were a little bit slower than the equivalent Core2Quad but a little overclocking fixed that, yet the Phenom's were far cheaper. So....now all of a sudden its ok that FX line is crap because its cheaper?

[@maddogfargo3153]

The lawsuit was 100% frivolous. It was simply cheaper to settle than fight it. Any idiot who actually READ the Day 1 reviews would see that places like Tom's Hardware got the architecture RIGHT. They clearly showed the 8350 with 8 integer cores sharing 4 floating point units. AMD NEVER HID THE DETAILS. I know this to be true because I completely understood the CPU architecture from READING about it before I bought my 8350, 9590, and a couple 6300's for side builds... ...and no, I did not file for compensation in the lawsuit... AMD did not cheat me, or anyone else... People are just stupid and lazy and will jump on any "free money" bandwagon that comes along because they couldn't be bothered to put in even the most basic of effort reading about the product they were considering for purchase. There are no victims in this lawsuit, only lazy and dishonest opportunists.

[@LawrenceTimme]

Agreed, they were just butt hurt because they bought the slower CPU.

[@konnorj6442]

Nicely said Meanwhile the real evil that was still going on was inhell and team greed both doing a ton of nasty bs behind the scenes with trying to force vendors to not use anything amd highly illegal and very scummy moves to say the least but sadly very common by both inhell and nvidia to this day. Nvidia being beyond infamous for such underhanded shit

[@PatrickDKing]

I never felt I got cheated and the CPUS still work great. I did file the claim though so effectively got the cpus for almost nothing. They still had to front money for the fund so might as well go to the customers. They made it all back though by me paying probably way to much for their 16 core cpus but I like them. The real financial hurt for them is the fact that you can get decades out of their cpus without having to buy a new one lol.

[@syncmonism]

The 8-core FX CPUs were a reasonable value. AMD engineers all referred to the CPU design internally as having 8 cores, it's not like someone said "hey, let's pretend this is an 8-core CPU so that we can trick people into paying more for it", and an FPU was never an agreed upon part of the definition of an X86 core at ANY POINT IN TIME. Even after the point at which FPUs were included in all X86 CPU cores, that didn't mean that it became a part of the definition of a CPU core. They originally did not include FPUs at all for multiple generations of X86 chips from various manufacturers, and if an FPU was included, it was often an optional separate chip that you could have on the motherboard. If I recall correctly, the 8150 and 8350 cost LESS than Intel's highest end quad-core CPUs. They were priced at a level which never would have given any reasonable person the expectation that they were going to be a lot more powerful than a quad-core i7 in a wide range of applications, though they certainly WERE more powerful in some applicaitons. These were an excellent value for some users from day one, and the 4 and 6-core models were entirely decent gaming CPUs for the money, especially because they were compatible even with some very old motherboards. Was the gaming performance disappointing vs. the previous gen Thuban CPUs? Yes, absolutely, but they were made on the same process node, and were compatible with the same motherboards, and they actually aged relatively well too, so they really weren't that bad, especially considering the prices they went for.

[@CountMills]

I am still rocking my 8370 today and it plays everything no issues and keeps the whole house warm

[@toothytube]

Still running an FX 8300 CPU coupled with the original XFX Radeon RX-470 GPU, 16GB of Team Group DDR3 1600 RAM, and an L7 Evo SSD. Just three months shy of a decade, and it performs better than new. It appears the utilization of the FX series multi-core functionality has improved "over time" with respect to overall performance in applications, games and even Windows itself.

[@troytaylor1913]

I still use a FX-8120 the 95-watt version I bought 10 years ago. I'm not a gamer it has a Quadro-k2200. It works well for Gimp, Inkscape, and surfing the Internet. It has 32GB of DDR3 2000mhz ram so it has some time left before 32 GB isn't enough. I decided to replace all the electrolytic capacitors with solid capacitors on the motherboard and keep it going for 3 -5 more years and give my 23-year-old 1999 desktop tower a full makeover paint job with cooling mods. I would like to get a creator motherboard when the CPU gets upgraded.

[@paddyodoors2757]

'...and give my 23-year-old 1999 desktop tower a full makeover paint job with cooling mods' I took our old (2004 iirc)family presario, cleaned it, sprayed some discoloured bits, found new front i/o and card reader on ebay and put a 3700x and 2080 inside. Still some cooling mods to install before I can run with the side on but a good sleeper so far.

[@youngmo77]

Sorry, but how do you upgrade the capacitors on a mobo ?

[@troytaylor1913]

@@youngmo77 On hole trough caps I use a soldering iron with temp control. I add leaded solder to it first that melts at a lower temprature then suck it out. Sometimes I have to do it a couple of times to get the leaded solder all the way down the barrel. When the component lead is lose you can pull it out. You don't want to pull on it until the component wire is loose because pulling the plated through barrel will can damaged the board. It helps to preheat the board.

[@troytaylor1913]

I've worked in electronics manufucturing for 15 years I don't really need any practice. It might help to practice on something you don't value untill you get it right before destroying something you value.

[@PatrickDKing]

32 gigs ram is going to be overkill for a long time. We've been putting 64 gigs in our new builds and even with 50 tabs, multiple remuxes encoding, and a game or two open, it's very hard for me to even break 16 gigs of ram. The worst drain on ram is the inefficient coding of windows.

[@notanimufailzone]

Three words: Retro Gaming Monster These CPUs have the weirdest compatibility. They’ll run any Windows from XP to 10 (and even 11 if you modify the iso). These things are seriously monstrous if you’re doing old games and running XP, Vista, or 7. In particular 7. Even if steam drops support you can use steamless (or old disc games) to move your games from a modern PC to an “air-gapped” 7 machine with like an GTX 750Ti or better.

[@konnorj6442]

Exactly my 2 retro systems as I posted above run everything from pc dos 7 to win7 and for NON OS they can have win10 or the beyond abysmal w11 technically though that pos is such shit I would never ever use it for anything

[@patrickgeagan9509]

I’ve been building batocera machines lately with these old parts.

[@damiank9443]

Sandy/Ivy Bridge also runs xp and blows FX outta water so.

[@niezzayt3809]

So is Core i7 4790K. It is a retro gaming Monster because you can install Windows XP up to 11 easily

[@Trick-Framed]

@@niezzayt3809 You can isolate cores on the FX that you can't on the Intel parts as well as slow down the Hyper transport and fiddle with a number of other variables to get very old Dos games to work. Games that are timing sensitive. That's why it's a retro monster. For reference.

[@MrCriistiano]

Those old FX CPUs could reach insane clocks. AMD even sold a 5GHz out of the box FX-9590. And it took 10 years for another CPU to beat the FX core frequency record on LN2 lol (it was set in 2012 at almost 8.8GHz with a FX-8350).

[@Obie327]

I just remembered the improvement when I upgraded to the Ryzen 5 1600X in late 2017. Very noticeable difference in performance over FX. Thanks for video!!

[@kokilius]

please dont say craps..please

[@kokilius]

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[@jn1211]

CRAPS!?!?!?!? @@kokilius

[@JorgieFilo]

AMD FX gave you one of the longest usable platforms ever, I started with the 4100, got a 6100, and I have had a 8120 in service since 2012. Reliable cpus with great instruction set.

[@ApolloTheDerg]

I feel like my phenom kept up better tbh

[@hrayz]

I started with the fx 4100, and upgraded to the fx 8350 when I could. The system is still my backup computer, paired with a Radeon RX 580-8GB. Runs 1080p games perfectly fine.

[@randomdreamer1619]

@@hrayz can i run most games with native 1366x768p with medium settings or lowest just with MSAA 4x on like cs2,the finals, nfs heat im too lazy to throw away my old 768p monitor.

[@hrayz]

@@randomdreamer1619 the RX 580-8GB card is still a good 1080p gaming card. Some games at medium, many even better. (Some badly optimized games like Starfield will suck no matter what though.)

[@mrmangbro6842]

@@randomdreamer1619with an fx processor prob not

[@trashpanda502]

It is such a shock going from mobile to desktop, really any cpu will be good enough. I was surprised at how good things where and I think most cpus will make most people happy.

[@user619tlsdca5]

We are called Retro PC Gamers of being a 10 year lag of having games of staying away from new ones out of the low income most of US have and using fx 8350 is OUTSTANDING for US of a PS4 level of playing games. Everything is affordable this way and life is great without needing to be like everyone else of doing the same things without going broke and homeless as this is the case of those issues involving gaming. In fact Ill be looking into getting a fx 9590 as I already have the fx 8370 so its all good.

[@bryans8656]

I thought AMD was killing it in the early 2000s, until the Bulldozers came along. At that point I switched back to Intel.

[@aChairLeg]

They were doing pretty well, but I think Bulldozer is what solidified their temporary downfall of sorts. Once Ryzen came out, especially Ryzen 3000, they really redeemed themselves in the CPU space.

[@bryans8656]

@@aChairLeg I agree, but by that time I had made the move to Macs. Not so much because of AMD or Intel, but because I wanted to try something different.

[@SuperTort0ise]

One might say they bulldozed their lead, really excavated the performance...

[@MostlyPennyCat]

​@@aChairLeg Behind the scenes they built some really important tech and standards though, but it's really only stuff Uber comp sci tech nerds care about. Of all of them AMD64 is the most visible. HSA and its unified memory space is probably the second most important.

[@НААТ]

Amd fx chips where and still are very capable chips... It just got overshadowed hard cause Intel came up with much faster cpus. Doesn't mean it's a bad cpu. Its perfect for any budget gamer Being able to battle even some games released current era with a good overclock.

[@wicky615]

The 8120 really pulled power, so much so that depending on the board your MOSFETs would practically be on fire, it's likely all the microstutter was a power delivery issue where the board temps skyrocketed, I experienced the same thing building with one of these back in the day and needed to under volt things to get it under control.

[@aChairLeg]

That's insane. Would partially explain why my experience was so bad with it

[@wicky615]

@@aChairLeg flat boards in a test bench configuration don't get active airflow like they would in a case, either, which is why you'd typically see test bench setups with a downward firing cooler or an AIO arranged to exhaust towards the board. Without it you're likely to see higher board temps around the socket because that heat just kind of balls up down there with nowhere to go. It gets really bad on boards without MOSFET heatsinks because the surface area it has to release heat through convection is teeny tiny.

[@JorgieFilo]

That's because a lot of am3+ motherboards are just updated am3s, really needed a heatsink.

[@AK474000]

FX 8120 was my first systems CPU and I got it for free from a friend so while the performance wasn't the greatest the fact I spent no money on the CPU mattered little to me and considering I was gaming on a triple core Phenom II and old dedicated laptop Radeon graphics, anything else would have been a god send. I played a lot of D3 around that time with it.

[@ezioauditoredafirenze5453]

I still use FX-8350 on PC clocked to 4,7 GHz with Cooler Master 212 Evo. Sure I can't play all the latest games and the ones I can, I can't use all bells and whistles. To me PC is for virtual reality, older games and indie games. I do my other gaming on Xbox Series X (and Xbox One X before that). Still I am very impressed how FX-8350 can be as good as it is even today after so many years. Depending on the game of course. Oh and I use Win 10, Asus GTX 1060 6GB and 24 gigs of Kingston HyperX DDR3 RAM (yeah, that RAM is overkill but it was on great sale). Sometimes it can of course be a bottleneck and those single thread focused games which ain't the best for it but when it comes more GPU needing and/or multi threading games it still kinda rocks in my opinion.

[@87crimson]

I still game on my FX rig built in 2013. As long as you understand that AAA games will have to be capped to 30 FPS you are fine for 8th gen games and some cross gen ones. Still a great CPU for indie games and even some emulation.

[@TouchthisiProduction]

look up RA Tech here. he digs into the whole 8-core debate. He also shows more of the FX 8350 capability. The amount of cores makes it able to brute-force itself through a lot. I ran a FX 8350 between 2013-2021ish. it worked wonders for me during the time i used it. and not long ago, I put together a computer with my old 8350 CPU, a m2(with adapter), 24gb RAM and a 5500 XT 8gb GPU. my Spouse uses it and it is still able to keep up, just played Diablo 4 this weekend on it.

[@tylerssoul]

I am running a fx-8320 with 16gb of ram and a gtx 1650. Surprisingly it plays all my games fine. I play WoW, new world, v rising right now it has a little bit of trouble with new world slight stutter every min or so on medium the other two I play on high graphics and get 70-100 fps

[@mrb.5610]

Running a FX-9590 in a MAC G5 case heavily modified - no gaming, no content creation. Two radiators, 3 fans and lots of heat and noise. But somehow it's kinda fun !

[@ROMAGNUM45]

I'm still running the 8350 after all those years. Somehow I can play baldurs gate 3 without even overclocking it.

[@XX-121]

well in case anyone is reading the comments. not sure corrects settings for bulldozer(81xx/61xx) but piledriver (83xx/63xx) for best performance you needed your Hypertransport and Northbridge set to 2600-2200 respectively (something that most reviewers miss) and also benefit from higher ram speeds and DEFINITELY had to have it running in dual channel. most reviewers would only use standard 1600mhz ddr3 when even in the specs called for 1866 but using higher than that would gain even more performance especially for gaming and even more if you were using a model with an igpu i personally had a FX-8370 16gb 2133mhz and with 980ti and i rocked that setup all the way till zen 2 came out, running 1080p with no problems

[@ohmlord]

I will definitely agree, the duel channel really makes the difference with the Fx series

[@VadimMikhnevych]

Switching from ddr3 1333MHz to 1600MHz gives about 4-5% performance boost, according to my observations at FX-4100.

[@pcxt21]

I had an fx 8350 from about 2013 to 2018, i used a corsair H60 id gotten to cool my i7 920 (what a fireball too lol) overclocked mine to 4.9Ghz and frankly right up until about 2017 it never really gave me a problem. For all the performance the 1700x that i replaced it with gave me I missed the stability and consistency the FX had brought to the table, plus as a young graduate student the inclusion of AVX instructions made it massively faster for school work and simulation then my old i7 920. Even now, I miss how fun it was to overclock and remember it fondly despite its flaws.

[@facebag666]

I ran a FX6350 at 4.9ghz 24/7 but it would do boot up to 5.4ghz.

[@zeroandplanb4life]

i7 920 aged terribly considering it lacks avx these cpus can still run warzone and most complex software in 2024 thats a win to me.

[@Code_String]

Throws me back in time in those IT Classes where some classmates were going back and forth about whether going Intel or AMD. Kind of funny to see how it rolled out pff. Glad that they're back with Ryzen though, some good stuff!

[@tapioorankiaalto2457]

I use a 8350 in my older desktop PC paired with a 1080. Using the FSR3 frame gen mod and after optimizing some graphics settings it's completely playable at 1200p.

[@kemalkurt5257]

I had a fx 8300 with 8 gb ram and sapphire r9 380 4gb with same motherboard in this video (msi 970 gaming). This build was able satisfy my computer needs for almost 8 years. Then sadly motherboard or cpu died had to sell ram, gpu and monitor afterthat bought Lenovo Thinkpad L15 gen3 with amd ryzen 7 pro 5875u. I sometines miss my old fx gaming pc to be able to play games up to metro exodus but life changed and i dont play too much anymore. Anyway everything aside these fx cpu's were very good back in the day in price/performance. They served me well.

[@ZincLeadAlloy]

Yessir another quality upload! Thanks for this. I wasn't aware of this situation at all!

[@Goldwelp]

I had a 6350 paired with a 1060 6gb on win7. Worked great for years. Preformed at 1080/60 pretty well.

[@narutosingh5239]

Used AMD FX 6300 from 2018 to 2022. It rocked 💪

[@connarcomstock161]

I remember FX.... I was there...3000 years ago...when the strength of AMD failed. On the serious though. I had an 8320e ( sold as a lower vcore, eco model by AMD...wink wink...it's just a better bin ) at 5.2Ghz under a, H115i for nearly 2-3 years before I got my 1600x in 2017. Thing was an animal, at the time.

[@Nick_R_]

My fx6300 with an RX570 runs Cyberpunk 2077 well and anything else I throw at it. A Hyper 212 keeps it cool, not resting in place, but firmly attached. My 8350, overclocked to 4.6ghz is even better, with an old H80i running cool.

[@aChairLeg]

Haha that's awesome. They're still great chips, but the used market is crazy on them.

[@kenanthony2962]

I've just finish building 2 gaming rigs two AMD 3 AMFX 9370 w/ ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX board & FX 9590 w/ ASRock Fatal1ty 970 board both system with 16 Gb of rams with a MSI 1070 Graphic and they still runs games in 2023. with no problem

[@aChairLeg]

Damn those 9000 series are crazy. Glad to hear they're working out for you

[@kenanthony2962]

Thank you

[@jojoglover501]

its crazy because i remember looking up cpus back in 2014-2015 and the fx 6300 being the budget option for that 650-700$ build and i had it in my PC from 2014-2017

[@bad_luna5222]

Hi, I purchased one of these about two years ago. The reason was simple. I was saving up for a new pc but I needed my last one to last one more year. So I skipped lunch for a few days and bought this chip to hold me over for a little longer. I upgraded my phenom ii to the fx. (I now have R9 7900 and. 7900xtx)

[@TehSquidManGaming]

Just upgraded from fx series to zen 5 3d and its hands down best thing since hyperthreads

[@HardWhereHero]

I have a fx 4350 and 8370, the 8370 my brother used to break some OC record back in 2015 or so. . I looked this CPU up and its still listed as $200.00 what the actual fawk.

[@archersden]

This cpu still works fine for older games. And multitasking works surprisingly well.

[@jego23allan]

Running fx 8350 with sapphire nitro+ rx 6700xt 32gb ram with no issues

[@qaching]

ARENT YOU HAVING ALLOT OF BOTTLENECK? YOUR CPU IS ONLY HAS 25% POWER OF YOUR GPU

[@starting5524]

do you think the FX-6300 would make for a decent NAS or server processor. I still have my old chip and I was wondering.

[@aChairLeg]

If you already have it, it's not a bad chip at all. It's just compared to other more modern chips the prices are high IMO. I think it'd be a great chip for a NAS or server.

[@konnorj6442]

It can do both but as always the mb picked makes a BIG diff uber cheap pos mbs need to be avoided and the uber $$ 9xx series are generally not worth it For server use I used an old gb 880g with onboard gfx and the one sys is running perfectly n Here almost nonstop 24/7 for over 12yrs now same for my other fx sys that's now retro center using a wc oc ov 8320 on an asus mb and it runs several Oss etc from bare metal or from VM as needed to cover almost anything from the late 80s til now

[@julianlopez1924]

I just hooked up my buddy with this cpu chip after I've had 15 years plus ago. And paired it with a msi gtx 580 4g and it's still kicking ass. I was very surprised with the outcome

[@MrStylograph]

Any plans to OC any of these? I had FX 6200, 970a-ds3 and 8 gb of RAM on my hands a while ago and a friend of mine was in need of a PC, so I’ve built one using these parts. Games like Genshin were running mostly fine, but there were a lot of stutters like on 8120. Amazingly, once I’ve raised memory frequency to ~1500 MHz and NB to ~2600, stutters were mostly gone and the experience was a lot better. Ended up just buying 5600G for my friend a bit later. Though am3+ platform is almost dead as of now, and it was really hot (even the metal io shield was too hot, everything was radiating heat lol), it is still fun to play around with it.

[@aChairLeg]

I considered it, but my 6300 was somewhat of an overclocking dud, so it wouldn't have been the most fair comparison

[@MrStylograph]

@@aChairLegAight!

[@diegoleiva7242]

These processors came out in an era where games used 2, or 3 cores tops and Bulldozer didn't have excellent single core performance from what I remember. If anything AMD should have stayed with 3-4 cores and crank the Ghz up a bit, then release 6-8 core chips later down the road. These chips aged like wine as everyone knows.

[@ArikGST]

I skipped FX entirely back in the day. Went from a Phenom II x6 Platform to Intel i7 7700k, and then back to a Ryzen 5 3600x (and now a Ryzen 7 5800x). A friend of mine had an FX Bulldozer and it was REAL toasty, he always struggled to keep it under 90°C under load xD

[@Micecheese]

the cpu and motherboard prices before anything more is a good enough reason for me at $100 or less, that is even better since i already have a case, power supply, ram, and storage vs $300+ for just am4 motherboard and modern cpu upgrades, new cpu coolers in the thought too that's another price difference for extreme budget!

[@lylikabuyaxla2455]

I still enjoy using fx6100 oc. 4.2GHz and GTX 1050 ti oc. 2000mhz. and many have achieved my target of 60fps in many of the games I play. However, entering the 2022-23 game year, many will struggle to achieve that. So with a low budget I just upgraded the VGA to RX 6700 XT FT. just change to fx 8320 oc. i bought it with 19 usd. well, although I plan who knows when I buy am5.

[@tzviasegal3003]

I remember when the FX60 came out, I had to build a system with it... real dual cores! Must have been 2006/2007... Did a pretty good job with Oblivion...with a GTX 295, later replaced with dual SLI 580TIs... For it's time it worked quite well...

[@g.ausw.8049]

My FX4130 @4.6Ghz and my HD 7850 (OC) do not stutter at all....even 2077 melts like butter

[@TheWieczor16]

Yeah for sure in what 20fps ? 😂

[@g.ausw.8049]

@@TheWieczor16 720p with FSR ....30-40 FPS

[@chriswright8114]

i didn't know people were still buying them, but what i can tell you is that my PC is a UD3 motherboard(rev3), FX-8350, RX560, and 8gb of DDR3 and it still works for what I do. mostly emulation, Borderlands 3/Wonderland, Arkham games, Blizzard games, MTGA, things like that. don't do anything that requires super high FPS for esports or VR. and I still have no complaints to this day. you can say what you want about how old some of those components are, but they were built like tanks.

[@aChairLeg]

Yeah the FX lineup still works well, if you already have an FX system and it works for you, no need to needlessly upgrade it. But if you're building a new PC from scratch, the price to performance just doesn't make sense to me.

[@chriswright8114]

@@aChairLeg oh no, I love my little engine that could, but I would _never_ recommend that anyone build it now. unless you wanted to get into extreme overclocking. they're practically indestructible and dirt cheap considering you can push them to almost 9GHz.

[@Aryzuo]

My main rig died and I whipped out my FX-6300 and mobo / ram that has been sitting out in the garage for 8 + years and I threw an SSD in it and my RX 5700 XT. It's not the best but it'll hold me over for awhile hopefully. It's surprisingly competent for some 1080p gaming.

[@aleksazunjic9672]

FX-8320 should be rough PS4/PS4 Pro CPU equivalent. Therefore, all games that run well on PS4 and PS4 Pro would run well on 83x0 processors, providing you have decent GPU . In this case even Chinese "580" would do . Would I recommend to someone FX architecture ? No. But if you find something relatively cheap, you could play lots of games.

[@datsweetsansabooty]

I’m still running this chip, 8350, with an nvidia 950 lol.

[@TheRevengeSociety]

I still got an 8150 running my home server. Its a solid processor. It was my first gaming cpu.

[@Dj-Mccullough]

I had an 8350 back in the day. I was always under the impression that all of the 8000 sku's (such as the 8120) were pretty much identical to the 8350. the performance difference is a littlebit shocking.

[@aChairLeg]

That's funny, I wasn't even planning on getting the 8350 for testing because I thought the same.

[@konnorj6442]

8320 is the best fx cpu by far for multiple reasons and yes that includes the 8350

[@paddyodoors2757]

Funny how times change? AMD and intel have pretty much swapped places, intel are are even starting to make gpus while the cpu division burns.

[@SilverX95]

3:38 usually AM4 coolers are backwards compatible with AM3/AM2/FM1/FM2 if there using the default spring loaded latching mechanism like the AM3/AM2/FM1/FM2 uses.

[@EddieJarnowski]

Im still using my fx8350. Runs pretty good tbh.

[@newdadz]

Same here, paired with my GeForce GTX 960 oc. Using it for labbing, virtualization and a bit of gaming as well.

[@robertfurr4678]

I picked up an FX-6300 for use in a server build that comprised of parts I had laying around. It's clocked to 4.5GHz and runs quite cool from what I can tell (the Seidon 120M water cooler is quite good)

[@Toxic2T]

Just bought an FX 8320E today. This thing is a bullet @ 4 ghz.

[@konnorj6442]

8320 e or non e is IMO the best ofnthe fx series for many reasons

[@Toxic2T]

@@konnorj6442 truth it stood up against time

[@multitrackdriftu]

Still daily drive my 8350. Even back then it was better than most gave it credit for, especially knowing what we do now about Intel CPUs being more prone to vulnerabilities. After microcode mitigations, the i5-8400 benches below a stock 8350 in CPU-Z. While CMT may not have been as good an idea as SMT, the multithreading capabilities of these CPUs still had yet to be fully utilized until around 2015 or so. Once you get a stable overclock on an 8350 it's really not bad, but you have to do more than adjust the multiplier if you want to maximize performance. I've kept flirting with the idea of upgrading to Ryzen but I honestly don't have any reason to. Maybe some day when a game I really want to play simply won't run on my PC I'll give it a serious consideration. Until then, I'm gonna stick with ol' reliable.

[@ApolloTheDerg]

Electricity and reliability? That thang gotta be leaving scorch marks on that board, and I’m sure the capacitors and power delivery are happy with old thermal pads. The night and day from Ryzen is so worth it, you won’t regret it in the slightest.

[@jacobmay2821]

@@ApolloTheDerg i still use a 8350 matched with a 1660 ti. I play cyberpunk at 50 to 60 frames no problem

[@josephdias3968]

@@ApolloTheDergI ran a fx 8320e oced to 4.8ghz for like 7 years at 1.4v and OCed to northebridge and cache pretty heavy along with oced memory controller to get ddr3 oced to 2566mhz as long as you change pads every few years any 990fx board can handle this easy

[@str333aklive]

Aren’t all am3 4 and 5 coolers cross compatible?

[@chillian321]

i have a feeling the stuttering might be coz of the 8gb ram. I had a similar issue with my AM3 system couple years ago with the fx-6300 and a rx570 8g, but after upgrading to 16gb ddr3-ram(identical modules btw) i a saw a noticable difference! So IMO even on older AM3 systems, 16gb of ram makes a huge differnce in performance.

[@WhyteLis21]

Your first gaming PC was with a AMD FX? Me: My first gaming PC, that was given to me, was an DOS Apple II series back in the mid 90's. First time playing Oregon Trails on a floppy disc. I can't remember which model, though. Lol.

[@h1tzzYT]

my guess why 8120 performed so poorly is because lack of avx2 instruction set and relatively low clockspeed in heavy all core workloads. 8120 at all core workloads will sit at measly ~3.1ghz while 8350 at ~4.1ghz thats ~30% increase. Many emulators and productivity tasks do indeed take advantage of avx2 instruction set so there is that. Overall fx 8350 aged very well, considering its early reputation.

[@Q5Grafx]

i run 3 8350 machines. one controls my CNC, one controls my laser and one is a linux box. the cnc machine has been running nonstop since 2012 no issues. it was a 3x sli machine but now has only one gtx 780sc. 2 were killed by canned air and not blocking the fan from spinning. all 3 machines have 32 gb ram. all 3 also run the Sabertooth 990fx MB and seasonic PSUs. the oldest box that has been on since 2012 was only cleaned 2 times both times i killed a GPU. but even in the garage in Phoenix AZ with an ambient of 135f it still runs great with the h115i AIO. For running the CNC i have an AC unit cooling the storage box under the machine where the pc and control unit are. i ALSO HAVE A 6300 AN 8120 AND AN 8310 I have 2 backup mobos and 2 sets of 32 gb ram. I may make a few boxes as HTPCs. they are real 8 core CPUs just not hyperthreading CPUs.

[@dannyy7654]

Eye test the FX 9590 works as fast as my Ryzen 9 5900x in web browsing and Thinkorswim, Active Trader Pro. So in my use cases it’s still useful in 2024.

[@sgtjarhead99]

I still keep a FX box in my living room for guests and light gaming. It’s a FX 6300 o/c’d at 4200ghz with an old GeForce 770. One of the best bang for the buck builds I’ve ever made.

[@RonGrethel]

Werent there also cpus that were basically underclocked 8350s? I remember an 8320e

[@VadimMikhnevych]

8320e is a bit newer, and I guess it is the best FX in 95W tdp league.

[@CaptPatrick01]

My latest PC originally came with an FX 8350. On games at the time that can fully utilize the CPU like Space Engineers it was a godsend compared to my last PC. That said, the 4x2 FPU setup was not helping with stability in other titles, especially single threaded ones. I upgraded it to a Ryzen 5 2600x a few years ago alongside a more general upgrade due to the GPU memory chips getting damaged by the advertising cryptojacking exploit. Then a Ryzen 7 5700g last year due to ASUS doing a very bad thing with the mobo but that's a whole other can of worms. Just an awful and expensive stream of bad luck.

[@majorpayne0195]

I still have my FX-8300 but I'm using it on my Windows XP retro PC.

[@amdintelxsniperx]

i had a 9590 and had it dialed in at 5 ghz with 2800 nb and htt it was on par with a ryzen 1500x not even going to complain

[@banks3388]

The FX cpus are popular because they don't have the spyware module that intel and AMD have backdoored into all modern CPUs...

[@agostonpalatinus1513]

I wanted to say this, FXes are the last capable cpus which are not bloated

[@DMKleinArts]

I redid the thermal paste on my fx6300 and gpu after so many years of service. I havent overclocked it but it has served me almost daily since 2013. I wanted to see if there were any good, cheap am3+ chips out there that i could upgrade without redoing the whole rig. Any thoughts?

[@aChairLeg]

If you're already on AM3, the 8320 or 8350 could be good options. I wouldn't spring for a 9370 or 9590 though personally if I was on AM3. I would also avoid the 8120.

[@konnorj6442]

Mb is a big factor for overall results esp with higher end cpu parts but best performer overall inc stability with an oc and ov I found that my 8320 has been the best by a good chunk and is superior to the 8350 as well

[@rangersmith4652]

My first ground-up PC build (2014?) had a FX-8350 and an R9-270X running Windows 7. Soon I upgraded to a pair of R9-290s, and I changed the PCs name to "Spaceheater" for reasons people with similar builds will understand. On a 240mm AIO, my 8350 was stable at 4.8GHz and would boot to Windows, sometimes, at 5.1GHz. That CPU, its original ASUS 990X motherboard, and one of those R9-290s (I gave one away) still work. It was my first custom self-built PC, and it's got warm spot in my heart. It's not going anywhere.

[@lumia_dayZ]

How will the i7 8700k go against 1800x over the years

[@jack316i]

Now i'm playng starfield with FX 8350

[@allienmecaca]

oh... my old msi 970 gaming mobo, with the 100°C north bridge. such peaceful times...

[@mariandecker3942]

I had an fx 6300 and back in 2015, it actually wasn't half as bad. In 2018 i upgraded to the ryzen 3 1200 instead of the 8350. They did perform similarly , but I got a newer Platform and older 4 threaded Games ran much better.

[@Voidsworn]

Well, I've got a few FX CPUs just laying around: 4100, 4120 and 4300. Probably be fine for office and some indie games.

[@SimisearOfficial]

My first gaming PC was an FX 8350 and a GTX 960, I was told to get an 8350 instead of a 4690k/4790k

[@forfun6273]

Bad advice.

[@cloud819]

Seiko 5 automatic wristwatch spotted. The mark of a man that wants both quality and value.

[@aChairLeg]

Mark of a man that can't afford the Hamilton yet haha

[@perilouspenny]

could some of these issues be caused by only having 8gb of system memory? I feel like the stutter could be mitigated SOME with 16gb of ram

[@aChairLeg]

That is very possible, yeah. Maybe I'll revisit this one day

[@evenblackercrow4476]

So sad, lol. Nice work and interesting, thanks. If you like doing these old tech revisits, try your benchmarks on a linux distro--whichever ones you can. No one I've seen is doing this and pretty soon w10 will be at its end.

[@Lawcokana]

Yes. This is a good idea, ChairLeg. Please do it!

[@Regyulrr]

I mean Im still runnin the fx-6300, but its also my first pc. Only thing holding me back is the face that I dont have the money, +im enjoying the games im playing.

[@aChairLeg]

Yeah, if you've already got one, they still work fine. But buying fx chips nowadays just doesn't seem to make financial sense to me

[@VadimMikhnevych]

​@@aChairLegIt makes sence if you own am3+ mb already, with a weaker cpu. For example, I upgraded from Athlon II X2 B26 to FX-4100 - it was cheap, and the manual claimed that it is totally compatible with my Lenovo mb. I think I got about 30-40% improvement in video rendering times after the upgrade. As for games I played... the fps stayed the same. I guess gpu was the bottleneck. However, level loading times improved, though I didn't measure that in numbers.

[@TurtlDrip]

8320e still running at 4.5ghz 2600nb 16gb 2133 ddr3 with an rx580 8gb. Plays 1080p fine ...

[@nappingBOB]

Didn't test my 9590. Still running strong. FX forever

[@aeroflopper]

Because they still get the job done, and are really cheap now, my daughter gaming still on am3 970 gaming with a fx8350 with a rtx3060ti getting over 120fps abs she beats me one to one on most games and ive got R7 5800x with a rx7800xt card.

[@stevesmith1383]

Doesn’t that just mean she’s better than you?

[@aeroflopper]

@stevesmith1383 Yeah, probably im 52 eyes are not what they used to be, and she only 24 yes id say she is better than me, but she does not always beat me when we play the same lobbies.

[@harryballzz1]

I don't know but I have ASUS 990 FX board with a 8350 16 gigs RAM 128 gig SSD and a xfx 7950 card . And I don't care what anybody says if all plays very well I did a little overclocking on the car and the CPU and I guarantee you if you got it set up right it's playing modern games decent still

[@kaksidaksi3455]

why did you reccomend a used ryzen 7 1800x at the end for 80usd when you can buy a brand new ryzen 5 3600 for 85usd

[@maddiekits]

I wonder if this generation being the last without PSP is inflating the prices a little bit.

[@evilqtip7098]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ I LOVE MINE FX8150 GTX 16060TI 6G DDR6 FX 8350 GTX 1080 8G SUPERCLOCKED. SUPER SMOOTH WORKS PERFECT KINGSTON 7000MB ON CARD X 2 RAID - 0 SICK INSTANT SPEED MUITI TASKING LOADING LIGHTNING BOOM. 32INCH 0 ns 240hz Special 4k cable .. Runs incredible flow

[@dylanroemer4277]

try adding a nvme m.2 ssd using a pcie adapter and you will dram,adicly increase your speed going from 600 mbps sata 3 to say a 3400mbps ssd using pcie gen 2 or gen 3 which yes results wil be a litter slower on gen 2 but still faster than sata 3 which i use to have the asus sabertooth gen 2 motherboard that may be the only gen 3 pci

[@ApolloTheDerg]

Funny enough I used my 4790k from 2015 to 2021, and it still kicks fine, just new games like 2042 absolutely made it show its age.

[@aChairLeg]

My 4790 was a champ. Unfortunately, my ryzen 3700x is a little tiny bit better haha

[@forfun6273]

The 4790k should perform better than the fx8350. Especially cause you can overclock the 4790k. Single core speeds are a solid amount faster.

[@Darth001]

Had an 8370e it's worked great till, I upgraded to a ryzen 1600x

[@troytaylor1913]

I think graphic artists are buying these chips. FX-6100, 16gb DDR3 2000mhz, I bought another Quadro-k2200. I got it overclocked nothing overheating or crashing. The VMRs need heatsinks and a little thermal throttling there. It won't do 4k but it does well with rendering 1080p video. We usually end up using used gamer parts to build a DIY workstation. I probably spent 150 bucks on gamer parts on this with the workstation card. I try to put together backup workstations. I lost 2 because of nearby transformer explosions bad enough to take out surge protectors.

[@troytaylor1913]

Blender won't render the way it should. All the FX motherboards have PCIe 2.0 and Blender needs PCIe 3.0 video cards.

[@konnorj6442]

Systems like mybold 8320 work very nicely for this indeed And if your surge protectors didnt protect the connected systems you need better power protection hardware and start off with a whole house surge protector they are a killer value and can be easily installed on almost any home wiree in the last 80yrs Oh and I've had power protectors litterally on fire and explode while not failing to protect the hardware they were protecting theybsacrafice themselves to do so which is their job! Do NOT buy the crap $ store versions do not daisy chain surge protectors (that changes the circuit in often very bad ways. If you need to expand the outlets from your UPS then using the very cheap small power bars from the $ store often under sunbeam logo etc that are just a short 1ft long or so cord and a mini bar with 3 or 4 outlets and NO surge or switch etc at all they are just straight wired) You dont need to spend $$$$$ either and apc isnt as good as they used to be and are quite pricy but cyberpower makes some good stuff as alternatives Regardless of brand look for one that has AVR built in

[@adamkorzon2972]

I just bought a an Fx990 2.0 with an 8350 in the board just so I can run sli for my older games rocking with a titan x.The newest game I have in elden ring,and it handles it great it does not fully utilize the sli like RDR2 but I can do 1440 80fps.Just get a kick ass cooler and have never had stuttering with sli.Keep the gpus and cpu cool and no problem.

[@adamkorzon2972]

Got the ATX and fans with all of that for 160$ on ebay.

[@tristanb.8561]

I use the 8350FX in my NAS system. Yes I know I'm not energy efficient BUT I have enough air to run it as a NAS and Plex server plus it does regular backups etc. And all this without the system somehow reaching its limits. Although I will soon be switching to TrueNAS Scale, so I don't know what the system load will be like. And before my old PC became my HomeServer/NAS, it was my main system until about a year ago.

[@konnorj6442]

The old am3 cpus make very good nas/server based and configs properly they can run much cooler and using less power than default while retaining an excellent capability for multi threaded needs As for nas truenas is ok but overall unraid is superior in many ways IMO (I've worked with both and ithere for many yrs) While the old FX AMDs do nicely for this my own old 8320 is better overall than the 8350 (better therm/per stability esp when uv) and is setup to be able to boot anything from pc dos7 to w7 or w10 if wanted for that matter.. on bare metal or such could be also dont for most cases in a VM along with unraid at the same time The sad myths and badmouthing of amd at times still continues due to mnpanybvery ignorantnjackasses that just continue spewing crap they heard "from a friend" but such is almost always false, over stated or blatant lies The pathetic nonsense trying to claim they were not 8 core for example when they are and amd never tried to hide their design and details of how such worked

[@SuperShynobi]

Vorrei far notare una cosa. 10 anni fa era impensabile giocare con un processore vecchio di 10 anni prima. Oggi possiamo giocare quasi agli stessi giochi con un processore vecchio di 10 anni😉.

[@Lennox032]

I'm still using a fx 8350 for windows and older games, its still got some life left in the chip yet, paired with a reasonable GPU to avoid any bottleneck.

[@SFBay69]

fx 6300 here with a gtx 960 ssc

[@forfun6273]

I just bought a fx3850 and an asus motherboard that’s got 3 pcie 16 slots, 16gb of ddr3 1888 ram and an aftermarket heat sink for $40. I got a gtx 1060 and a 500gb nvme m2 ssd in a pcie 4 adapter. So we’ll see. I’m not a serious gamer. I kinda just enjoy making the cheapest possible pcs that can play relatively new games. I think I’m doing pretty good. I mean I got the gpu and a 600w power supply for free and the dell 500gb ssd was only $30 I have 2 750gb hdds and a 1tb hdd that came with a dell 7010 I bought for $35. But we’ll see. I may have been better off just buying an i7 3770k for $50 over the fx 8350