Why are So Many Scammers on Runescape?

[@Lowcoupe]

I've never seen such a respectful way of calling all the RS scammers low lifes that can't make friends in real life lmao

[@hdsingh6353]

Can't make friends in real life or runescape bc they scam them

[@swagmage6527]

makes a lot of sense that scammers are people that no one likes or has ever liked. It's depressing that there are people who are so sad and angry inside that they can't make any friends and would rather spend their time making others miserable instead.

[@emil6421]

@@swagmage6527 yeah a lot of people cant vent their feelings at the world so they lash out instead. people might think you’re a contrarian but there’s nice some people can have sympathy for the miserable

[@emil6421]

@@RobinK thats very nice of you

[@Makendu]

How do you know they can’t make friends ?

[@megasuperhyperspeed]

Only found this channel recently and not played RS properly in over a decade but i can't get enough of these mini-documentary expose videos.

[@Crumb]

Glad you're enjoying them, seems lots of my videos got recommended out to a much wider audience in the past two weeks. Views are through the roof!

[@megasuperhyperspeed]

@@Crumb blessed by the youtube gods. Well just keep on doing what you're doing and you'll blow up for sure.

[@Gameace232]

@@Crumb For me it was about a month ago. Since I have enjoyed your content I've dropped likes and subscribed with the bell as well. Every bit helps right?! Also haven't played legitimately in awhile yet still enjoy these videos a lot.

[@Illionash]

Same here. The voice, the rythm, the informations, the nostalgia... everything goes through your passion and even for a non english speaker native, it is easily understandable :) Keep up the good work Crumb

[@bonkosuckacocka983]

Warm familiar feelings

[@denholmpearson4346]

Scamming has always been a part of these savage Runescape streets

[@FOxXyYgRaMpA]

Hahaha, wow

[@t.s.8430]

Growing up playing osrs and playing rs3 now in my late 20s, I think it is the culture of the game. Grinding takes work, it eventually gets to some people to look for shortcuts. When they find a scam that turns a huge profit they could never grind out, it gets addicting. I think this is just another factor not talked about in the video

[@peterkeigwin847]

That's called being lazy and being a bottomfeeder. That isn't noble either, they're just an ***hole scammer with 0 morals. Bet they wouldn't try that IRL 👊🏻

[@t.s.8430]

@@peterkeigwin847 Not disagreeing with you, I just believe that runescape as a grind fest game IS tailored toward all the "illegal" aspects of the game itself. People need gold to grind = gold markets. People don't want to grind to max skills = bots. People just want to be at the end game content without thousands of hours put into the game and there is a market for it that the runescape devs don't tap into. If there was a 'legal' through jagex buy option for lv90 in a skill, you bet your ass people would do it. It goes against the spirit of the game, but there are a lot of people who just want the shortcuts to enjoy. I just believe that the addicting nature of scamming being so profitable.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

Same in EVE

[@ignskeletons]

I think this is true, Jagex sets very low XP rates and item drop rates compared to some similar offerings in the MMO market. For example, getting an Ely Sigil from Corporal Beast is a 1/4095 drop chance. and can be sold for nearly $1,000 USD on the black market. Whether you're a hungry Venezualan or a player who legit wnats the item for its stats/looks you may look for shortcuts like scamming. I feel like there would be less scamming if drop rates were increased, but this ofc would have negative affects like loss of value, less sense of accomplishment, etc.

[@t.s.8430]

@@ignskeletons Yes, it has been low rates and drops for so long Jagex could never make them better, the player base has been groomed with that "sense of accomplishment" since the beginning and removing that would be disaster for the game.

[@Laporch]

There are always ways to make other money, a scammer will justify it anyway they possibly can. Greed and easy opportunity will cause people to scam, then they will justify it.

[@chandlerrodgers5415]

I got scammed by a person I knew in real life. I even visited them and had dinner with him and his wife. We split a tbow, and a few weeks later he disappeared. Later I heard he got caught with a hooker in a hotel room and got divorced. I really hope it was with the tbow money

[@Absolute_Goblin]

I can weigh in on this. what I do is talk to the scammers as if I was their friend as if I was kind of in awe of them to get the to spill the beans then I report them. What I've heard from a few of these guys is that A. They never get banned and have backups in case they do B. They appear to be (in my unprofessional opinion) sociopaths or have some sort of really cruel streak to them. They seem to get off on not the scam but on screwing people over.

[@Vexxed]

This was really detailed. I'm surprised you were able to bring such complex ideas into a runescape video.

[@Brawling_Style]

Bro I'm surprised Kim jung un and his imperialist lovers haven't found you yet lmao

[@comminusz]

Enjoyed a lot of your early videos. Also liked the hyponix fight 😁

[@manimaniyo]

where have you gone vexxed i still remember the cx days

[@strangedevice2547]

This definitey counts as a “real” upload.

[@ostrider3500]

Why is it hard to believe? Not everyone on osrs is a smooth brain although a lot of people would make you believe that's the case

[@Rock_Appreciator]

I'm always hungry for your content, but I gotta say I really appreciate the research and xp waste put into this vids. You and Colonello have really opened up a lot of runescapes history and hidden activities. Mad respect

[@Crumb]

Thanks for the kind words man :) I'm always XP wasting, I like to treat the game as a social playground tbh got too much work elsewhere in life

[@foreverhungry84]

i have been playing for 14 years and have never been scammed once. i am a total loner with no friends irl or online. trust no one.

[@playmanstan2019]

:(

[@foreverhungry84]

@@playmanstan2019 dont be sad for me man, i hate other people.

[@will2778]

let be friends

[@wijirs1196]

Same. My ignorelist is 400/400, friends list is 2/400

[@rechtebanana]

one day you'll find people you can love, and learn how valuable that is

[@learyjimmy]

As a former auditor in public accounting, your explanation reminds me of the fraud triangle, which says that financial fraud takes place as a result of some combination of pressure, opportunity, and rationalization. Very similar to how you detailed the lack of punishment for scamming (opportunity), and the sometimes real life necessity to do it to support yourself (pressure). Great video.

[@ajhd2005]

It genuinely makes me chuckle how many people get scammed online. I've enjoyed RS for years with public chat off, having never been to the duel arena, never even considered lending/dropping people items. It's bonkers how people are so naive & trusting.

[@peterkeigwin847]

You have to remember what kind of people play this game. Maybe they are socially awkward and believe this is a way to get friends? I've seen it all before

[@JustJanitor]

I love your tone in this vid though. I find myself getting mad an worked up thinking about scammers an stuff. But you have a very cool head about it all which i really admire an strive to be like.

[@BladeNecromancer]

I'd been thinking about revisiting some nostalgia and play OSRS again, but all the videos I've seen about the plethora of scams, ddos, and a poor community are all pretty disillusioning. Shame to see a childhood game end up like that. Great videos though. I do enjoy the content!

[@pkbroarmaldo7]

When people get scammed or hacked and they lose all their shit. Theres no recuperation except just grinding all the money you lost. Jagex is so hands off with delivering justice that they act like restoring items isn't possible when it most certainly is.

[@Gucci05xx]

Exactly, they just want you to buy more bonds and membership to get everything you lost. Then with the pther hand threaten to rollback people because of duplicated items. Collect a check with minimal effort. I came back after 792 days away and gradually walking away again. Its pointless.

[@fredrikhogstrom6517]

Its not really that easy to solve. Restoring items could be a nightmare to restore without causing damage to the other players involved. Imagine the following: Player A gets scammed and player B now owns his items. Player B now sells all of the scammed items to player C and player D buys the items for player C. Do you see the issue with restoring items? This of course is just an explanation on a high level and in reality would be much more complex.

[@Gucci05xx]

@@fredrikhogstrom6517 easily negated argument. Item 1 is tied to Player A til legitimately made transaction occurs. Same principle as GE. You smell fishy. Lol

[@elijahw.finister6861]

Shit most ppl that lose shit like that either quit or just end up buying money lol

[@pkbroarmaldo7]

@@fredrikhogstrom6517 yeah and you're 100% correct. its just that jagex does nothing at all and would rather do nothing at all is a problem to me.

[@NaughtyNina1240]

Been scammed a couple of times. It forever changed my perception of the player base. It is the biggest reason I avoid group content like raids.

[@wojakcageman8026]

Back in 2007 I got scammed by a trust exercise and lost all my rune stuff, but then realized I could do the same thing and get my things back, just in a somewhat more crooked route. After I began scamming other kids, it was actually pretty fun. It gives a rush sometimes. However, one time I scammed a kid out of his rune scimmy and logged off, but made the mistake to log back on to give it to my main, and he was just messaging me over and over again like "please man can I have my scimmy back." I think you kind of missed the part where it's gives a rush to know you're breaking rules and getting away with it. This was also before the GE and it took me a while to get all my stuff and I may or may not have cried.

[@pxtrxckbrxxn3234]

It feels like everyone forgets framed use to lure kids and laugh at them when they cried back in the days...

[@westernbrumby]

We change over time

[@captainobvious7668]

Oh wow, he must be irredeemably evil, huh?

[@pxtrxckbrxxn3234]

@@captainobvious7668 straw manning

[@captainobvious7668]

@@pxtrxckbrxxn3234 Alright, what's the point of your post then?

[@pxtrxckbrxxn3234]

@@captainobvious7668 Its that the community of runescape is intertwined with scamming given the fact one of the top pvp streamers use to scam people daily

[@Thatboybemad]

Because people love power, that's why the ego is difficult to master. So these people come to a virtual community to feel superior and powerful because IRL they are too weak, and so soft the wind would blow them away.

[@peterkeigwin847]

This is true for some, that's why ROT is so toxic. They are all little incels that hate the world for not giving them what they want so they become disgusting bullies on here to become the predator, instead of the prey they are IRL.

[@foreverhungry84]

this is the truth. they are so feeble in the real world where scamming and talking smack has real world consequences. so to prop up their fragile ego they rob others. its a sad state of affairs that has ruined a once great game.

[@osrsbeatrs3249]

The first scam I ever encountered in RS was way back in 2005, some guy PMing me claiming to be a Jagex moderator and requesting that I give him my password for an account security check or something

[@grantoaten123]

Same happened to me! And I fell for it lmao

[@cosanostra4229]

I got scammed for 9m on the day this video came out, and I and usually a very careful player but I slipped and got a little greedy and the scammer got me for 9m. It happens more than you think folks, be careful and don't let your guard down.

[@WillFiordalisi]

I brought this point up with RoW in his livestream 2 weeks ago, he confirmed that it was the people around him that influenced his decision, and now he lives with regret

[@jonl7531]

Crumb learning another language for us. What a legend.

[@Streammzzz]

They just want some money to buy a gf.

[@l0lan00b3]

Little do those peons know gf is actually a bf

[@stopsign515]

@@l0lan00b3 Girl = Guy in real life

[@will2778]

old

[@Girvo747]

10k? Easy tbh, just sell cowhides pfft

[@l0lan00b3]

@@stopsign515 haha 4got that acronym

[@cjf6267]

The best part about videos explaining things is that annoying people can’t interrupt you while trying to make a point. Well made video man and clearly broken down to make your point!

[@Casprizzle]

The main problem is Jagex does nothing if you get scammed. It is basically encouraged or just accepted as part of the game. In similar games, such as WoW, the company running the game will look at chat logs and trades between accounts (if reported) and not only ban the scammer, but they will return the items to the person who got scammed. Now of course there are still people who might try it, especially over Discord so there is no proof of the scam, but when you have a high chance of losing the items and getting banned/suspended if the person you scammed reports it, you won't even bother. This even covers things like "trust trades" where you pay money for a boost or something like that which can't be completed just in the trade window and requires you to trust the person to fulfill the service after they get the gold.

[@silverroxas358]

This Octopath Traveler music keeps me coming back. Damn I gotta replay that game now

[@CheckmateFlips]

Around two years ago I stopped abyss luring on RS3. I justified it by saying that I didn't actually lie to anyone and that people would benefit by my gifts if they were to proceeded with caution and not go back to the abyss after leaving. I also justified it by saying that when people enter the wilderness they assume the risk of losing their items. I was also in a bad financial situation and wanted to quit my fast food job because it was awful. I didn't know how to give to society in order to replace my fast food job. Eventually I quit deceiving and people on Runescape and tried to give to people by reselling on eBay instead. It was successful enough that I could quit my fast food job. Now I resell on Amazon and am moderately successful at it and I flip Coogi sweaters on eBay for fun. I wish I had started reselling and providing products for people 7 years ago instead of wasting my time on Runescape but I can't change the past. If you scam on Runescape or somewhere else I challenge you look around for other ways of making money on the internet that can help people. Do some research with a basic "how to make money on the internet" KZbin search and you'd be surprised how many options there are for you if you believe in yourself and are willing to work hard without success for several months.

[@Renounce_Darkness]

Good man, keep flipping that money.

[@kouavue5259]

Play runescape back in 2006-2008 when I was in middle school. Didnt know much about the game back then. Came back 2019 during my college year. Was scam and lure a few times. This game is next level toxic. Quit runescape and never came back.

[@rickniu4153]

Runescape: 60% bots. 20% gold farmers 19% scammers. 0.999% content creators. And you.

[@eugenesis8188]

@@zedbaron9014 I'm pretty sure 90% of the gold market is just degenerate gamblers staking 16 hours a day. They just use gold as a proxy to get around gambling laws. I've met a shocking amount of people who have lost thousands of dollars staking, yet I've never met anyone who straight up paid cash for a t bow.

[@bonbonbun907]

This is a genuinely brilliant piece on sociology and group behaviour!! 💖 if you managed to find some academic sources to cite you would have a nearly flawless short case study of scamming culture online ! Absolutely wonderful work, I've been writing academic papers for years and you managed to eloquently summarise such complex points in a way that I could never!

[@Crumb]

Thanks :) I imagine academic papers are much harder to write, nice thing about a video essay like this is it's very informal. I don't have to be so clear reasoning & haven't considered and intertwined any real research like you mentioned

[@waltedck2662]

We use to run a house combat ring scam with my brother and a friend back in early 2007 after it was pulled on us. we always just saw it as part of the game. Looking back now would have never done it had we known more about scanning and the game itself. Love the vids man!!

[@chugpaint7938]

this is a fantastic video. really good job, i think you really hit the nail on the head in terms of psychology and the underlying reasons for this. never thought i would hear a RS youtuber say "demonstrable". keep it up man love you

[@Crumb]

Haha thanks man

[@mattt5228]

Crumb, I have watched, listened, and binged a good amount of your vids. The psychology and thought process into this is interesting. I myself have thought on the ins and outs of why a person may decide to. I realized after my pondering for years, that there are not many people that are born purely into evil. I could go all day into talking about this. But this is a youtube comment section. If you ever have time and truly want to sit down and talk about it. I would be hella keen on it man. Keep the videos rolling my dude. This one had a different tone, different way it was approached, and I honestly really liked it. My brother and I actually had a conversation about you in comparison to Sir Pugger. You really have done a great job for a long time, doing your research, among other things. I think out of all investigative rs youtubers you are by far the best. Goodluck my dude. Cheers

[@markfasey9201]

100% right, I used to lure and people back 12 years ago when I was 16 , would never even think about doing it now.

[@ButterlesToast]

These videos also help deter future scammers, especially for people who are just starting or are about to start playing for the first time. Plus this also serves as a caution to who you talk to in-game.

[@bloodarcher7841]

I don’t even play rs anymore. Took a break, but part of the reason I’m reluctant.. is the update issues lately and the fact.. yeah too many pieces of trash play this game And I don’t get it.

[@sygos]

Yup, rebalancing the most popular equipment isn't an "integrity change" like a huge game breaking bug. Jagex just is forcing updates through without polls claiming the blowpipe has been glitched for like 7 years and they're going to fix it now... Sure whatever. They don't care about the OSRS community, RS3 makes tons more in MTX.

[@bloodarcher7841]

@@sygos I didn’t mind the nerfs for future content. They took too long.. honestly I enjoy this game on and off but can’t be asked to play for 6-8 hours to make a dent in progress.. when I could just play Skyrim and do it at my own pace..

[@Brettcroese]

@@sygos you clearly dont even understand why they are trying to change it. "Glitched"...read before forming an opinion

[@pliit2101]

Cry more virgin

[@minizamorak]

i mean its ur fault ur focusing on the negatives and not the positives of this game

[@DexterityYTC]

There's definitely a reason and a justification for every scammer and every one will vary. All I can say for sure is that I kinda owe these scammers some thanks for teaching me how to identify them early on in life. I would be a very different person if it wasn't for learning some lessons the hard way back in 07.

[@VentandInvent]

Your vernacular is quite candid yet well seasoned - good show!

[@Zoykzmc]

7:31 If to scam is to not add anything to society, how is merching not scamming? Merchers take drops that players got at a low price and sell them to other players at a higher price while pocketing the difference. This adds no value, would that make it immoral?

[@jasperqueen3676]

Hey even if this isn't one of your deep delve documentaries, just gonna say you articulate your opinions and viewpoints in a very entertaining way. Would love to hear more of your thoughts on different topics like this!

[@bii2176]

I was actually friends with RoW back before he was fully exposed/known to be a scammer, he spent a long time building rapport with me, had me added in other places and we even played league together, he ended up cashing in on that rapport to scam me for like 35M or something pitifully low like this, was a really absurd situation. As you say I think for a lot of people it's just enjoyable to try to make other people feel bad. There is no necessity, it genuinely just gives them pleasure to empower themselves by "outsmarting" other people.

[@UniversalGunner]

I've honestly wonder if anyone has watched your videos about scammers and scam rings and got out of the scam life. Would be nice to hear this removed people from continuing!

[@lowridr2]

scamming on runescape is like leaving a very negative comment you would otherwise never say in person

[@yopman411]

The point about kids being scammers is true af, when I was young I used to scam all the time. I lost my original main account and my new main has been muted a bunch of times.

[@jacobparks1]

Quality content. Feels more like a video essay on the human condition rather then one about scammers on a 20 year old game.

[@Crumb]

:) glad you liked it

[@CassiePOE]

As somebody who used to do WoW carry scamming, this is absolutely accurate.

[@meowdy..]

link io

[@AttacMage]

This video is tempting me to write an in depth analysis of scammers online somehow. I'm taking psychology and there are some very interesting facets to this kind of behavior, especially if you look at it from a social, behavioral, and psychodynamic lense.

[@boohookid]

I started going to populated worlds where the "buying elysian!" Bots are, trading them, and immediately running away. PLEASE do this because they sprint after you if you run away quick enough and its halarious.

[@RedeemedOSRS]

Super interesting perspective Crumb, one thing I think you missed was anonymity - being anonymous. When 95% of us started playing this game in our childhood we didn't have the communication tools we have now. Sure some ppl played with their friends or family and used things like AOL/MSN, but over time we (the ppl watching this video) all went solo. You scam some noob for his full rune - your mum wouldn't know. No1 can find out and therefore there is no penalty as you mentioned. I've mentioned this to you before, but I believe Runescape is the source of all modern internet hacking. Do a search on haveibeenpwned and you'll find 100s of RS fansite databases. The ex-owner of leakedsource was admin of an RS bugabuse forum. At the time, Hacking runescape fansites was not hard, stealing gold was the logical next step and this eventually led to larger external data breaches and credit card theft. But my whole point here is that IF it all started with runescape that's why we still have so many scammers. They are the script-kiddies who never made it big time but after years of practice and reducing moral standards have nowhere else to go. Loved the video more than your usual ones, would love to see more.

[@pvtbackflip]

Osrs has always been a safespace, no one ever tried to screw you over what you mean!!!! Love the content and underlined issue, surrounding your self with good people is a benefit

[@Triphiq]

I grew up playing this game and still play it off and on. Whilst playing a kid, I was very gullible. I would always get scammed. I feel like being scammed as a kid in this game - RuneScape in general has taught me to earn my money, and be weary of people that will take it.

[@mtgshmoopy]

Many people are garbage and deserve the wall. Many people are desperate enough to subvert their own ethics. I don't know how people still play MMOs when they're all full of toxicity and crime. 100% of MMOs are like this. Bless you content creators for letting me experience games vicariously.

[@Ozzy4747]

You and Colonello make some of the best OSRS content on KZbin,

[@Rock_Appreciator]

Word

[@RealPeopleOnDeck]

that quote from the previous scammer is lowkey fire

[@nazurath8833]

Its easy to say youd never do something until the situation calls for it. I never would have thought id be living in such a dark place yet here I am

[@mvmella]

Love the videos. I'm glad you take such a moderate and understanding approach, especially when it pertains to Venezuelan and other RSers in struggle. Folks are too quick to animalize these people, but dire circumstances lead them to gold farming and scamming. Thanks for giving good context and shining light on these issues.

[@Crumb]

:) Thanks for the kind words, always like to humanize the people behind the character

[@sygos]

Yeah I feel really bad for these people lying and cheating to children who wanna play games in order to feed themselves.

[@RyanMay94]

New sub, I never really played RS but I find your videos fascinating

[@Crumb]

:) Thanks for the kind words man

[@eddyblaze343]

It's because some people just have no empathy. Let's say you befriend a guy, gain his trust and take his tbow, it's easy to say to yourself "It's just a game who cares" but the guy who lost the tbow could of been going through bad times in real life and rs is the only thing he enjoys, they don't think about it like that. Another thing is just greed, it's like how stakers will stake trying to gain more money even tho they can already afford everything in the game and then some. I bet scamming large amounts of gp gives the scammer a rush and makes him want to keep making even more easy money.

[@royalsouthpaw828]

I tried anti scamming that dude in the beginning with the maple short bow. He had so many tricks up his sleeve he got me everytime.

[@shockmate9]

Have you looked into the wheelbarrow glitch?3 buddies got their stuff taken for well over 300m each. I have pictures of their discord I accessed showing their scouting bots they claim to have paid 10 grand for.

[@mgray999]

Is there anywhere where I can give a Venezuelan 10 bucks a week or something? I'd like to do it but make sure it'd going to someone who needs it.

[@Slothptimal]

A friend of mine has decided there is not enough time in his day, and has resorted to autoclicking skills. I do not autoclick, or auto anything, as I enjoy playing the game properly. At the same time, I have helped him design paths to auto certain skills because it has been a fun thought experiment. Now I am torn between preserving the integrity of the game I enjoy and report him (as I report any other macroer I see) and risk losing a good friend who does a lot of activities I enjoy, but just cbf training his Smithing, or retaining said friend and know that I am contributing to the downfall of the game. And what weighs into my mind is “Well, it’s not me autoing, and it’s interesting to see if it will work.”

[@Vandalize.]

you articulate yourself very well crumb

[@Wakatipu_]

Bruh, that runeplatebody scam with all the junk items took me back

[@Seltaeb_]

It's a very weird world we live in. Physically, and electronically.

[@Grithor]

Some people just like to scam, same gratification as getting the drop you've been going for

[@oris2720]

From the POV of someone who's done this before, it is definitely partially that. There's a rush in getting some kind of loot, whether it's a tiny amount or thousands of dollars. It's like gambling, when you get someone, it feels like you've won a stake and made a bunch of money.

[@AgentSilverStar]

Just starting watchin ur vids since is was randomly in my recommendation. Personally ive never played runescape since 1 ive never heard of it when i was little nor i had the money for a computer then. But after seeing videos about looks like fun ill try it out. Plus now i won't get scammed thanks to you.

[@Brutetank]

I had a wild random moment about a month ago, saw a wicked pure at the GE and just started to compliment them, cause well their account was super cool to me. Dude ended up being pretty drunk and started to trust trade me for fun, ended up trust trading me 100mil worth of gear, and it was such a cool experience since I ended up wearing it feeling like a badass and then giving it back. Afterwards I watched him pk until the long hours of the night. :)

[@John-Doe-Bot]

Can you please link the interview that you mentioned at the beginning of the video and you should put links in your description

[@Crumb]

Good idea, adding those now

[@ABurntMuffin]

"there's nowhere else to turn" have they considered an exit bag?

[@rw277]

I don't know what you'e talking about, that WAS a real upload. I liked it.

[@Crumb]

:) glad you did

[@runescapestats534]

Very interesting take on the issue. I do have some empathy for Venezuelan scammers, given their terrible economic situation I can’t honestly say I wouldn’t do the same thing in their shoes. I do believe the first world scammers/hackers are amongst the biggest losers in society though

[@Impulse154]

One thing about the narcissism / lack of empathy - if you believe that victims to scams deserve it, due to being stupid or unprepared or whatever, then you can justify scamming them, because they deserve it.

[@69kmoondawg]

For me, the thrill of stealing from NPCs just wasn't enough.

[@skygorex6]

Very good vid, I like the way you explained this matter its incredible how this happens for a game that is like 20 years old

[@BrentVis]

You hit bullseye in this video. If you look at analyses for why youth get into cybercrime, they have very similar findings.

[@metrosb2593]

Liked the video before watching. Always know it's quality content Crumb!

[@Crumb]

This one's a little different, so I hope you still enjoy it. :) I've got another ready to go as soon as the sponsor reviews it, I've been sitting on this one for a while to toss up as an in-between

[@PaPaPOVEY]

Same even if it's not the best, I do it just to help out the creator's.

[@NathanS1997]

For real when i was like 10 i had like 950k in complete junk items (probs worth 80k tops) and i told a guy that i was making a series on flipping. I got a 1m cash stack accepted in trade and told him i would stop recording and trade him it back. I logged off for 20 seconds, felt horrible, quickly logged back in and gave it all back and said i dc'd.... that was my 1 and only time scamming someone :D

[@emil6421]

I remember pulling these schemes over skype with a friend back when I was 14-15 in 2011. I think we got about a billion gold over the summer holiday in total, which was a pretty big deal back then. The profits we made gave us this kind of rush that made it feel like a game almost, like tricking people into trusting us and handing over their money or taking it into dangerous places was this addictive game that we kept playing. Eventually we went back to school and years later, the allure of ’runescape gold’ wasn’t really there anymore. It probably sounds really crazy the way I described it but I think a lot of scammers get that rush too, especially during the payoff, ie a successful lure etc. I’d feel miserable doing this for hours as an adult though hahahaha

[@WiscoDbo]

I would say it's more of a "Online I can be anyone" rather then "my true self".

[@sukidable]

Yeah, the only people who are freed to be their true selves are those who are just free of their social anxities, or people who are... well, pardon the word, but, evil. Otherwise your online persona really just becomes a warped abstraction of who you really are that is largely a reflection of the culture you're immersed in.

[@daveburrows9876]

Very thoughtful. Nicely done.

[@rangeispow]

ReturnofWilderness is still around and still scamming people, he does smaller "giveaway" streams and sells osrs lootboxes on a gambling site xd

[@user-lr9tw7qc6g]

SAME WITH that fishy kid

[@drnolon]

I recently got back into Old School Runescape. My name on there is Dr-Nolon. Meeting some nice people to chat with while playing or a friendly clanchat would be awesome. I'm currently low-mid level if that's something you need to know.

[@Crumb]

Check on the forums, there's a category on there where clans recruit members :)

[@StonedCaveman420]

This may be an unpopular comment but as someone who "lures" I can say that I often pretend to sell gold to sites to find what account theyre currently buying/selling on and i find gp sellers and many scammers this way. I will often once or twice a week find one of these people take some money and do a drop party for f2p players. as for why its because nothings being done about the scammers and gold buyers so I like to think in some shape way or form im helping.

[@JTD472]

Narcissism and sociopathy are not interchangeable terms, just FYI Cool video though. Don’t play RS but always find content like this interesting

[@thairs3141]

A guy by the name "A zookeeper?", has been extorting players who play or skill in the wilderness resource area 2.2k worlds. Is there any punishment for players who extort others?

[@user-fs5fc1vv7y]

I Got scammed and begun using the same trick myself. Osrs is a dog eat dog world

[@spotos5154]

Lmfao

[@freezingcicada6852]

Wild west of MMOs

[@Statistiqs]

As a kid, I lured a lot... like every single day for years. Made billions of GP off of it. I never sold any of the gold but had friends who made thousands. I liked the cash on the game as a kid. Definitely fucked a lot of people over. Keep in mind all of this was happening when I was 10-13 years old. When EOC hit I stopped luring, quit the game, and then came back for the 2007 version. Still play to this day and haven't scammed/lured ever again. For one I started playing the game legit, grinding max cape, etc. Two I feel like I grew out of that invisibility complex you mentioned once I got into high school. The game wasn't the same and the community I lured with was broken up through bans / quitting. At the time it was a lot of fun. We were rich in the game, we played every day together and could blow money on anything. For others in the community, it was a way to pay college tuition, bills, etc. Overall, I think I was just a young kid having fun on the game at the expense of other people. Looking back I wouldn't say I regret it because I think it taught me a lot. Like I said, it's probably been 9-10 years since I last lured/scammed anyone. I enjoy the game a lot more as an adult now.

[@scottcolquhoun8649]

I want to say about 2 years ago return of wilderness did come back and did stream videos. They were gambling videos. He could of been a good guy if he hadn’t been corrupted by scamming and seeing how easy it was to get gold without putting in for the grind.

[@crazitomali]

Paul Robert's. I've been friends with return of wilderness since his original account. Friends with him on Facebook. He bought his mom a BMW and paid off a beach house in Thailand. He's not worried about anything. He'd also a professional guitarist that makes income.

[@UltimatePerfection]

Scamming is present in any big mmo. Happens in RS, happens in Tibia, happens in WoW and EVE.

[@danieldecastro4164]

i used to scam/lure when i was a kid.(not all the time & literally got scammed for all the money i scammed & gave the rest away and quit when osrs changed.) nowadays after all the real shit life's thrown at me, after being a highschool dropout and becoming homless and a drug addict ive actually changed my ways, nowadays i would never scam anyone and to be honest i still feel guilty about it sometimes, so i like to give away money to random noobs, makes me feel like i can somehow balance my karma becasue i was stupid when i was younger. But my reason for mentioning this is that what i kind of experienced while being on the streets was that theres kind of a rule in the place i was at: and that would be that if you let someone take something from you, it doesnt belong to you anymore. and this would be true mainly for the fact i would wake up in an alley after blacking out from being so tired and walking everywhere on the street (to get food, stay clean etc.) ;- my stuff would be stolen.. anything i owned the previous day before i passed out... so basically where i grew up, if someone steals something from you and u let them (allow urself to be scammed) then it is what it is.. however its a little different because you could always try to find the person that stole from you and go do them in (beat the fuck out of them) which is a common consequence on the streets. but anyways basically what im saying is, like even i myslef have been scammed years later on runescape when years ago i was the scammer. i liked the video i just wanted to share! karma is real guys, start doing good if uve done bad youll feel better

[@danieldecastro4164]

oh and if its too good to be true it definately is unless youre super lucky or something... trusting random people is a hard thing to do and it doesnt help when you do trust them and they stab you in the back, IF YOU SEEE SOMEONE ATTEMPTING TO SCAM SOMONE PLEASE HELP THE VICTIM

[@Xortrox]

Interesting topic, i wonder if jagex even cares about these type of scammers/lurers, there was a guy who lured me once who literally had the name "Lots" people told me he had been doing it for at least a week, and that a week ago he had 6 tbows. The point at which he got me he had 14, so 1 tbow a day? Lol.

[@Hakkapell]

Jagex does NOT ban lurers, and I say this case on my experience of luring ~15b between my partner and I, being totally open about it, being reported hundreds of times, having people post video evidence, and speaking with a former jmod... Basically, his explanation of the logic was "if someone chooses to enter a dangerous PvP area that blatantly warns you that items will be lost, that's on you." That being said, we never RWTed, used glitches or oversights by Jagex. (Think of the wildy teles that didn't have warnings) 95% of the people we got were greedy idiots thinking they were in on the gig, and the other 5% were the type you wouldn't leave alone with a glass of water for fear that they'd manage to drown.

[@Xortrox]

@@Hakkapell Lmfao what a joke response from jagex, they clearly are clueless about their own game as per usual, nearly all these lures use literal glitches to make you enter those areas, e.g animation stalling. Took them a year to patch vengeance after I got lured myself once :D

[@Xortrox]

@@Hakkapell As for the greed part, I kind of see that. Although it's become more along the lines of the victim playing a hero role, anti-anti luring from what I've seen.

[@elijahw.finister6861]

@@Hakkapell Exactly. Basically saying in a nice way you're a fucking dumbass if you do fall for a lure 😂. I'll admit in like 07-08 I had just grinded at aviansies for like a month collecting noted addy bars and bought tassys, whip, and just got my fighter torso. Well my dumbass went into the red portal by accident (i clicked on the portal too fast not realizing🤦‍♂️) ran in was like where tf is everyone and as I realized and started running back I got barraged and clawed and the dude said "gf tassys" 😭 Ah man I was so butthurt I fuckin quit the game for a couple years but I always seem to come back to it 😂😅

[@Xortrox]

@Tweak Turnup was he convincing you of high aching raids items too? Lol. I think his particular setup is extremely unique and that he only strikes now and then.

[@LocktheRed]

Can we all take the time to appreciate the very concept of having a bunch of players dress up and play legit games of chess like this. 0:18 They even have appropriate costumes for each piece a player represents.

[@padubidu1890]

was hacked yesterday have had contact with this person for a long time and actually had good conversations. but yesterday he asked me if I could post a post from his clan on the osrs forum and rate it. I already played osrs in 2007 and during this time I was cheated in the same way as it happened to me yesterday, although I actually knew it and was skeptical. I wanted to log in with a second account. Tried it a few times and it didn't work, I wrote to him that it didn't work and he said to me, oh no matter, let's go soulwars and then I put on all my armor and teleported to soulwars. After that came the logoff and I couldn't log in for about 4 minutes and when it went all my armor was away about 280m

[@qetesues]

thats what happened to returnofwilderness? i just started playing again so i had no idea where he went

[@SuperKinahead]

I used to do for the satisfaction, that whoever fell for it was an idiot and i would laugh at them. But then again all i did was swap mith scims for rune scims. Not destroy accs

[@stugeh]

Honestly, if getting my bank cleaned feeds someone for a month or pays their rent I'm fine with that. I'm gonna be mad but that's a way better cause for it🤷‍♂️.

[@thewatcher6312]

My dumbass fell for the "Guess who? I'm your friend new account!" Lmaoooo