Why are Spurs painful to watch?

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Spurs have a huge chance of qualifying for the Champions League once more by finishing in the top spots of the Premier League but not every fan is delighted with the way their team are playing. Does it matter how entertaining Conte's side is to watch if they get results? What could they change?
JJ Bull takes a close look in this video.
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@torgmeister
@torgmeister Жыл бұрын
"Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really sh*t, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham." - In Bruges
@finfog4590
@finfog4590 Жыл бұрын
That’s a bit like how I see Tottenham - they’re a strong team but not competitive
@abrojosaputro
@abrojosaputro Жыл бұрын
This quote is why in bruges is one of my fav films of all time
@l_..l.l.__l..l8833
@l_..l.l.__l..l8833 Жыл бұрын
Class movie
@n0body550
@n0body550 Жыл бұрын
@@abrojosaputro Banshee of inisherin is basically the same three guys, director, and two main actors. You know incase you haven’t watched it.
@pewmonger
@pewmonger Жыл бұрын
I came here to post this comment but you’ve beaten me to it!
@shrimpflakes
@shrimpflakes Жыл бұрын
As a Spurs fan, believe me when I say that nobody hates watching Spurs more than Spurs fans
@rongreen4231
@rongreen4231 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@revolver37
@revolver37 Жыл бұрын
Man City fans might disagree. We've been their bogey team for reasons I still can't quite figure out
@toohottyentertainment
@toohottyentertainment Жыл бұрын
@@revolver37 I’ll tell you why bro. As a spurs fan, the spurs players only show up when they WANT to. They’re so inconsistent but somehow always want to show up when they verse city. They go prime Barca against city and then go back to prime spurs 😂
@vaffangool9196
@vaffangool9196 Жыл бұрын
@@toohottyentertainment *That's not it.* Tottenham, unlike any other top side, is perfectly willing to drop into a deep block and allow quality opposition to dominate possession, choosing to take their chances on the counter with speculative runs and long passes rather than creating their own chances in the opponent's third. *That style of play* can stymie technically talented teams that are patient in possession and play a high press-like Arsenal, who dropped points against bus-parking sides in Southampton, Newcastle, Everton, and Brentford-and Manchester City, who dropped points against Nottingham Forest, Aston Villa, and-whaddya know-Southampton, Newcastle, Everton, and Brentford. Arsenal lost to a negative Manchester United side who had yet to jettison Ronaldo and find their creative form, and City lost to a Tottenham side who seem to play negative football against every big six club. *Those pyrrhic results* are much more difficult to come by for ambitious well-coached teams like Brighton or self-respecting clubs like Liverpool or Chelsea who play with too much pride to resort to negative, unwatchable football. You give Sp*rs too much credit by saying they turn up for big games. What they do is to take a Champions League squad and make them play like a newly-promoted Championship side, putting on a miserable show and alienating their most devoted supporters.
@emikomina
@emikomina Жыл бұрын
is ze histori of totnam
@bungaIowbill
@bungaIowbill Жыл бұрын
With teams like Man City, it looks like they always have an extra player on the field. Spurs look like at least two are missing
@rasmusjensen4838
@rasmusjensen4838 Жыл бұрын
Son is missing, basically 0%, Perisic can at best only count as 50%, Royal has counted for 50% most of the season (had some really good games under Stellini out of nowhere). That should explain most of it.
@mumindanmallam
@mumindanmallam Жыл бұрын
​@@rasmusjensen4838 And yet Koreans feel it's Contes fault Son has gone missing when the player himself jumped of the edge of the earth
@nikg6305
@nikg6305 Жыл бұрын
@@mumindanmallam Rising sun is that you????
@SiddharthJaggavarapu
@SiddharthJaggavarapu Жыл бұрын
​@@mumindanmallam Son is definitely out of form. Having said that, Son is playing a very different role this season than the last one. He is no longer the one that is running behind. He is expected to do hold up play, which he is terrible at. I don't get why you would change something that worked really well. When Perisic plays, they both often run into each other.
@mumindanmallam
@mumindanmallam Жыл бұрын
@@SiddharthJaggavarapu well he is trying to put Son closer to the goal by playing through the middle but since Kane is refusing to drop deep like last season Son isn't finding the space in behind
@redheadredemption1573
@redheadredemption1573 Жыл бұрын
The further away from it we get, the more I realize Poch taking Spurs to the Champion's League final is the equivalent of putting a man on the moon. And not doing it with a team of highly trained astronauts and scientists, it's like he did that with Spurs.
@Mizzy873
@Mizzy873 Жыл бұрын
The reason Spurs were good in possession under Pochettino was because they had technically gifted players in midfield and defence (Eriksen, Dembele, Alderwiereld), but now they’re relying on players like Hojberg, Skipp, Dier who will put a good shift in, but don’t excel with the ball at their feet.
@drumpros
@drumpros Жыл бұрын
Dier Yes, but skipp, Hojberg and Bentancur are all actually very good at progressing the ball, they are just set up not to do that annoyingly
@hhantel
@hhantel Жыл бұрын
It took Conte half a season at Inter to realize Eriksen could be a contributor. He's part of the problem. He prioritizes stodgy defensive work and doesn't like risky passes that can be turnovers.
@nikg6305
@nikg6305 Жыл бұрын
polished brexit ballers
@Regimantas
@Regimantas Жыл бұрын
from what I saw this season they severely lack any creativity. solid - yes, but sooo unadventurous. of course its hard to find creativity in general in football, but thats why you are ok with Messi walking around most of the game when he can consistently create out of thin air.
@SiddharthJaggavarapu
@SiddharthJaggavarapu Жыл бұрын
Hojberg gets unfair criticism for not being good on the ball. Watch him when he plays for Denmark. He is really good on the ball. Bentancur and Hojberg, as the only midfielders are often outnumbered by the opposition and have to get the ball out of a 3 man midfield press, which is not easy.
@LeMondeDuWynn
@LeMondeDuWynn Жыл бұрын
The year is 2004, a young Michael Carrick signs for spurs, a team is built around him and good times prevail. He leaves and… bad times. Manager is sacked, everyone is sad until… a young Luka Modrić signs for spurs, a team is built around him and good times prevail. He leaves and… bad times. Manager is sacked, everyone is sad until… a young Christian Eriksen signs for spurs, a team is built around him and good times prevail. He leaves and… we don’t sign anyone to replace him (or Dembele) and it’s just all been rather disappointing since then. COYS
@danielbaker3487
@danielbaker3487 Жыл бұрын
This. Dembele is the goat.
@opinionatortv6457
@opinionatortv6457 Жыл бұрын
Dembele was such a masterful player. Wish some other Big European team nabbed him instead of moving to the Land of Bing Chilling
@DjNaste
@DjNaste Жыл бұрын
​@opinionatortv6457 Letting Dembele go mid-season was criminal. I don't care if he could barely play any games any more. We needed him for the CL final.
@maskless1087
@maskless1087 Жыл бұрын
You still have Eric Dier. Think of the positives.
@mortefiammeggiante5777
@mortefiammeggiante5777 Жыл бұрын
@@maskless1087Jesus Christ.
@Max-ve5tu
@Max-ve5tu Жыл бұрын
James Maddison is right there for the taking. He fits most of their needs, and he is also just an all-around fantastic player.
@adamcalvin1634
@adamcalvin1634 Жыл бұрын
He is, but Conte didn’t want him. Levy was ready to bid for him, according to reports, but but Conte didn’t want him as he doesn’t fit into his profile of player. Unfortunate for everyone that watches Tottenham games.
@JTHDZN
@JTHDZN Жыл бұрын
@@adamcalvin1634you’re stupid if you think Daniel levy would make an attempt to bid for an English premier league player. Too expensive for the penny pincher
@adamcalvin1634
@adamcalvin1634 Жыл бұрын
@@JTHDZN it seems wild but that’s what Paul O Keefe said. He’s pretty reliable for Tottenham news.
@ethanderrick8486
@ethanderrick8486 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Maddison would be a good pickup for Newcastle
@sumitshrestha2986
@sumitshrestha2986 Жыл бұрын
@@ethanderrick8486 I personally think those two clubs would suit him down to a tea.
@TPW13
@TPW13 Жыл бұрын
That horse shoe pattern where the ball just goes around and around with no real chances reminds me of arsenal a few seasons back
@opinionatortv6457
@opinionatortv6457 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of United last season
@neon5433
@neon5433 Жыл бұрын
@@opinionatortv6457United barely had possession with McFred running the midfield last season, even Norwich found joy in the midfield against them
@misters6749
@misters6749 Жыл бұрын
Would appreciate a bit of analysis On Richarlison as well as why spurs only really attack in the 2nd Half.
@jasonwong2242
@jasonwong2242 Жыл бұрын
Maybe because the opponents defend usually worse in the second half
@klon410
@klon410 Жыл бұрын
every arsenal first 11 player scored more premier league goals this season than richarlison
@aptmap5181
@aptmap5181 Жыл бұрын
simple. Conte (and Mourinho for that matter) are reactive coaches. Their basic game is sit deep and pray for smash-n-grab to get a result. Works if the league has only 2-3 top teams. It does not work in PL anymore because it has become way too competitive you cannot rely on 1-2 chances per game to break smaller teams down. They are forced to come out of their rigid shell in the 2nd half to get an equalizer/winner and were exposed as a poorly-coached team. Does Spurs even practice attacking patterns and combination plays in training?
@joestockton7016
@joestockton7016 Жыл бұрын
Richarlison just isn’t very good, I don’t have a clue why Lucas Moura has never been given a nailed on spot in the XI but I rate him over Richarlison by a lot.
@Benjamin-gt6si
@Benjamin-gt6si Жыл бұрын
@@aptmap5181 Agree. Those approach are outdated. Will only work in some one off matches in tournament games with a bit of luck.
@onsideobsession5412
@onsideobsession5412 Жыл бұрын
Sacking Pochettino instead of constantly backing him was a clown move from Spurs
@aptmap5181
@aptmap5181 Жыл бұрын
Spurs were the 4th largest net spender for the past 4 seasons after Poch were sacked. Imagine if he got the money that Mourinho, Nunes, and Conte can spend
@moonflower1759
@moonflower1759 Жыл бұрын
I think he lost the locker room and it was either sacking him or sacking the whole team tbh
@Benjamin-gt6si
@Benjamin-gt6si Жыл бұрын
Poch is the one who made Spurs into a dangerous team, and more importantly, they played good football. Sacking Poch was such a poor decision.
@thehorde4868
@thehorde4868 Жыл бұрын
@@Benjamin-gt6si didn't he used up 5 years already at that point, although what he did was good, it wasn't good enough
@Benjamin-gt6si
@Benjamin-gt6si Жыл бұрын
@@thehorde4868 What are you talking about? They have kept improving under Poch. The season before he left was the best ever spurs team in recent years. If he stayed, they could only further improved.
@sneezeey
@sneezeey Жыл бұрын
00:20 'except Jon' 🤣 Love that Tifo can take a joke (or a bollocking) and play along~
@ebrahim2579
@ebrahim2579 Жыл бұрын
I think the only way to make this style exciting is for the front 3 to literally live together eat together sleep together and you would see some of the best counter attacks of your life
@ShaunLevett
@ShaunLevett Жыл бұрын
Maybe they should have a Ménage à trois? Son would be taker defo.
@ebrahim2579
@ebrahim2579 Жыл бұрын
@@ShaunLevett not to that point but you get what I mean right? something like José Mourinho's Madrid
@OnlyTheJugg
@OnlyTheJugg Жыл бұрын
@@ShaunLevett son is a power bottom
@_Beamish
@_Beamish Жыл бұрын
I think Kane’s abilities would really shine in the aftercare. I can definitely see him offering some aloe vera and San Pellegrino after a particularly rough session.
@greavsiethespur
@greavsiethespur Жыл бұрын
"Players lose you games, not tactics. There's so much crap talked about tactics by people who barely know how to win at dominoes” - Bryan Clough.
@ciciuk3695
@ciciuk3695 Жыл бұрын
Well, I guess... welcome to the world of Antonio Conte? Atalanta fan here, been knowing him for quite a long time, since he basically went head on with our former captain (as well as with the supporters, goes without saying). He did pretty well at Juventus, as well as Chelsea and Inter, but what nobody ever liked about him (despite the attitude, obviously) is that never seemed to have a backup plan: always playing passively with that 3-5-2 formation, changing players role-for-role and that's about it: not scoring enough? Move in a forward, move out another one; not enough density in the midfield? Out a midfielder for one that hopefully ends up being more physical and better suited for the match. And that is it, really. Inter fans were critizing him quite harshly for this reason, when he got sent off the UCL in the second season; sure, he ended up winning them the title, but still never moved aside from his style of play, never making changes or major adjustments. As well as never being an entertaining team to watch, but as long as you win I guess that's not the biggest of problems.
@mohdsalmen2422
@mohdsalmen2422 Жыл бұрын
As an inter milan fan, i can confirm this!
@horsebox5138
@horsebox5138 Жыл бұрын
As a spurs fan I hate my life
@zapffe_9581
@zapffe_9581 Жыл бұрын
I know every one fan can speak up, but im sobbing by being everton supporter ;-;
@horsebox5138
@horsebox5138 Жыл бұрын
​@@zapffe_9581fairs
@toluabisola
@toluabisola Жыл бұрын
Probably a bit strong but I know what you mean. I just know I have no interest in watching this team and no interest in watching what this coach does next. I fully expect Conte to go after we get taken out by AC Milan later today, but that will only be one solution the the many issues plaguing the club, the main one being the ownership. Unless that changes we will forever be spinning out wheels going no where, hoping for the once in a blue moon lucky break where we get close to winning but ultimately fail because... Crappy ownership still in place!! Levy (🙄) will probably go for Poch to keep us all quiet, if I was Poch I wouldn't walk back into this role without cast iron written into the contract guarantees over the spend, if he doesn't get that and takes the job again he deserves what ever happens (which you know will him depressed on the touch line waiting for naffing Danny to pull the plug again)
@horsebox5138
@horsebox5138 Жыл бұрын
@toluabisola I would love to have Poch tbh. Exciting attacking football, a great manager and we have a good squad. And it's a manager that actually respects and loves the club
@toluabisola
@toluabisola Жыл бұрын
​@@horsebox5138 He does, but I dread him coming back and Danny doing him dirty again. The man put up with two transfer windows where we signed no one, and Danny did it because Poch is so loyal and just gets on with stuff, he would never have tried that with Jose or Conte. Would love Poch back, but under better owners, he deserves that much
@onepieceenjoyer5326
@onepieceenjoyer5326 Жыл бұрын
Playing Perisic and son on the same side has absolutely ruined Son, he’s been asked to do stuff he isn’t good at moreover it keeps him from getting touches inside the box or around it 🗿
@TheDarkKnightRacist
@TheDarkKnightRacist Жыл бұрын
i don't get it, i heard that Conte's training is really hard, he really push the players in training, which means they should be stronger physically than most teams, why on earth you ask these lads train so hard just to sit back and play defense, if you ask your players to be physically stronger, you would want to them to play high tempo football, that's just contradict.
@yoditan
@yoditan Жыл бұрын
It’s sounds weird to say to a team sitting 4th but I think Spurs have been kind of lucky. There have been so many games esp. in October and November when they only turned up in the 2nd half. If it wasn’t for Harry Kane, Bentencur I genuinely don’t know where they would be. Some of it is on Conté as well his stubbornness to change tactics, make changes is so weird. Why players like Moura gets to play when he’s leaving in the summer and you have Danjuma on loan.
@omother6950
@omother6950 Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry luck is running out, Liverpool is coming
@kururin7
@kururin7 Жыл бұрын
@@omother6950 liverpool and city have one thing in common against spurs; both cant get a comfortable win against them
@omother6950
@omother6950 Жыл бұрын
@@kururin7 also another thing, they finish above them every year and can actually win silverware
@rasmusjensen4838
@rasmusjensen4838 Жыл бұрын
As a Spurs fan calling it lucky is an understatement. It is actually absolutely a miracle. But the luck is running out.
@Hoolzz
@Hoolzz Жыл бұрын
@@rasmusjensen4838 its not a miracle. they've got the 4th most wins in the league, and therefore they're 4th right now.
@alexanderthornton8622
@alexanderthornton8622 Жыл бұрын
If you’ve got dier and Davies starting then your never gonna do anything
@Cesc349
@Cesc349 Жыл бұрын
Its really that simple 😂😂don't forget lloris
@pratinavp
@pratinavp 8 ай бұрын
Going from this to being the most exciting team in the premier league with Ange ball!!! Whether we keep winning or not. I thank that man for showing us how football is made.
@PhantomRaspberryBlower
@PhantomRaspberryBlower Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Tifos guide to 5 a side.
@jonteau7722
@jonteau7722 Жыл бұрын
Great video guys 🔥🔥You make a really good point at the end. If we choose to become a more entertaining side, we may very well have to give up finishing 4th for the mean time and hold our nerve through some bad results. Not sure I can see our board make that call or have the nerve to stick with it. I am bored as a Spurs fan though, must say.
@kentcapers5058
@kentcapers5058 Жыл бұрын
I’m curious to know what Conte’s Inter team was like in terms of production and how they looked? I never saw them, but, some of those players seemed to enjoy playing his system. Just wondering if you had a chance to view them for comparison.
@andrefernandes765
@andrefernandes765 Жыл бұрын
fmd - this is so precisely accurate. I love Conte's passion, but his lack of dynamism is haunting.
@Siience...s
@Siience...s Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video i hate seeing how my team plays these days
@goated6146
@goated6146 Жыл бұрын
I said it last year after we bottled 4th and i got bantered by spurs fans, I said I would rather be horrible and have a style of play I can buy into and that actually entertains me than play burnley ball on steroids (and they still havent won anything and wont playing like this). Arsenal are a JOY to watch. It's must watch for me as a fan (obviously) but I feel it's also must watch for anyone who just loves the game. It's controlled but super direct and pure fluidity. I'm so proud of my team. It literally took years to build but it was worth it. I'm not saying we're gonna win anything, I still can't make myself think about it but I just love how we play. Football is about style, not about defense.
@haihao2942
@haihao2942 Жыл бұрын
arsenal are better but they're still making error here and there, i'd say for attacking football liverpool was better with their fast paced attack, followed by man city
@benfulford3943
@benfulford3943 Жыл бұрын
I was really surprised to see that spurs were 4th. It feels like they've been awful this season and miles off the pace. I guess they've been really lucky that Liverpool and Chelsea haven't been there this year
@KindredBrujah
@KindredBrujah Жыл бұрын
Teams behind have a couple of games in hand - two wins and I don't think Liverpool quite overtake them, but they'll be sniffing right at their heels. If Newcastle's apparent pick up in form continues, I could easily see Spurs drop to 6th by the end of the season.
@containedhurricane
@containedhurricane Жыл бұрын
Because of Conte's smash-and-grab tactics. They were proven to be successful when Conte just arrived to a new league where the other teams might not be familiar or have forgotten his tactical styles, but not in a long run. I believe Conte will win a major trophy in Spain or France, because the big teams in those countries don't really know his tactics yet
@alexgriffiths6958
@alexgriffiths6958 Жыл бұрын
It's a good job the season tickets aren't expensive. I thought that playing Royal in a more infield position againt West Ham was more exciting (relatively) to watch, but wonder if Stellini got a ticking off from Conte afterwards. Who knows what team will turn up against Milan tonight.
@arsenalvibes
@arsenalvibes Жыл бұрын
One that couldn’t score apparently 😊
@DavidZee85
@DavidZee85 Жыл бұрын
0:20 that fact firmly places Jon as my favourite Tifo person
@ultrademigod
@ultrademigod Жыл бұрын
This is more exciting than watching Spurs most of the time.
@lukemusto896
@lukemusto896 Жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on Girona. Joint 3rd highest for goals scored and 4th highest goals conceded. Would love to know the possible reasons for this?
@Eibarwoman
@Eibarwoman Жыл бұрын
I wonder if it's roster construction flaws from lack of budget (given their relatively small stadium for La Liga and freshly promoted status as cash injections aren't allowed) or a tactical matter which has Girona firing off and allowing so many goals.
@lukemusto896
@lukemusto896 Жыл бұрын
@@Eibarwoman my assumption would be they set up in an aggressive man v man pressing structure, similar to Bielsa’s Leeds. But I haven’t seen enough of them to know🤷🏻‍♂️
@Eibarwoman
@Eibarwoman Жыл бұрын
@@lukemusto896 I also suspect a bit of roster funding constraints despite being owned by the same sovereign wealth fund as Manchester City. The system might live up to it's maximum potential both offensively and defensively if manager for a couple more seasons with La Liga media funds averaging upwards.
@lukemusto896
@lukemusto896 Жыл бұрын
@@Eibarwoman I think you will be right, unlikely the squad has consistent quality throughout
@TheNormalJuan
@TheNormalJuan Жыл бұрын
The other issue with the players Tottenham have signed recently, is that just 3 or 4 are actually regular starters or at least frequent subs. But the majority are either squad playres that play very few games, and in some cases no games at all. Some of them have gone out on loan deals, but the club hasn't been able to bring back much money out of them. As for Arsenal, most of their "expensive" signings have become actual regulars, and only a few of them have been disapointing. Those few that don't play much for Arsenal have already left, maybe not for a big fee, but at least the club has been able to move them on and take them out of their wage bill, and some of them had really big wages for how little or bad they played. So Spurs have a bloated squad, with high wages, but most ot those players are not playing, either because they don't suit Conte's style, or they are just not good enough anymore. Maybe some of them were bought at a point where they had played really good elsewhere and the club tought they would use them more, but their level has decreased and now nobody is interested in buying them either due to the wages or for the amount that spurs want to get. If a different manager comes in the summer, they might be able to use some of those players more effectively in a different tactic, but the main problem is recruitment rather than tactics.
@God_is_an_Atheist666
@God_is_an_Atheist666 Жыл бұрын
As a Spurs fan this was painful to watch😭😭
@palma675
@palma675 Жыл бұрын
If you are painful to watch but wining games people can forgive that however if you are painful to watch and still not winning games now that's a deadly combination.
@reubenkirkman3474
@reubenkirkman3474 Жыл бұрын
Superb educational video, I just have one question. Who is Eric Dear?
@richierichie1332
@richierichie1332 Жыл бұрын
tbf last season, we played good football. the front three of kane son and deki was a joy to watch. i don't know what's gone wrong this season
@neon5433
@neon5433 Жыл бұрын
Spurs have simply just got found out. Brighton under Potter were the first team to figure it out last season when we lost to them, as long as a team sits back in a solid defensive shape, spurs can’t score because their players are not creative. As a result whenever spurs are in possession teams always immediately switch to a defensive shape resulting in spurs side passing, teams also immediately take advantage of their 2 man midfield which means spurs won’t even be in possession most times now. Last season teams committed everyone forward and played a super high press against spurs but spurs would always end up thrashing them, this season nobody bar City and Liverpool have done that which is why Spurs have so much success against them most times
@edenhazard2751
@edenhazard2751 Жыл бұрын
@@neon5433 Better to get found out than sit on 10th like us.
@Cesc349
@Cesc349 Жыл бұрын
I was so hopeful.......then son just decided he wouldn't play the 2022/2023 season and deki has been on and off
@hamgil
@hamgil Жыл бұрын
@@Cesc349 The problem with Son is he generalyl doesn't perform when perisic is on that flank because Perisic doesn't work well behind a front 3, there isn't enough space for him to cut inside like he would with a front 2
@BadassBikerOwns
@BadassBikerOwns Жыл бұрын
@@Cesc349 Do you remember a goal by Son that's not from counter attack? All the goals that I remember are from counter attacks, hardly from natural progression.
@tomdudley5314
@tomdudley5314 Жыл бұрын
Really good analysis of spurs play. I'd also draw on how poor Perisic has been and that when he plays Son doesn't score, or even pass to him that often. Lack of class defenders exc Romero means we can't push our defensive line higher up. WB's in general have been poor so no creativity there. And missing out on Eriksen and not getting a passing creative player in the middle limits central play. Conte's doing his best with a bad bunch, reflective of a really poor transfer window and policy under Levy.
@rayyaanrahman1568
@rayyaanrahman1568 Жыл бұрын
i think if spurs played riskier and more light a fuse explosive football they would excel if the midfield imo was a little more darring i think they would be in the title race in my eyes
@Timbone07
@Timbone07 Жыл бұрын
Lack of a midfield playmaker No backup for Bentacur, should have kept Ndombele as a backup
@bobbyalexander8592
@bobbyalexander8592 Жыл бұрын
How can you say someone 'normally overperforms'? Surely if it's the norm, they're not overperforming? This mentality is why looking at xG from this angle doesn't make too much sense - if you score a goal that has low xG it doesn't mean you're overperforming, it means most people don't score that goal. Some of Messi and Ronaldo's best goals would have low xG but it's because they're talented and are performing better than expected for a baller, not because they're overperforming
@arnabthreethreesixfivethre4841
@arnabthreethreesixfivethre4841 Жыл бұрын
Only thing i hate about conte is he doesnt make tactical changes when we are behind.
@Cesc349
@Cesc349 Жыл бұрын
Cause they have dier sanchez and davis sacking managers from 2017
@aaronconway4435
@aaronconway4435 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that JJ said he doesnt like the idea of Kane in behind a 3 of Son, Kulusevski and Richarlison, I could really see Kane dropping deeper into more of a 10 role, yet still scoring 20+ a season
@marcorojas-vazquez6792
@marcorojas-vazquez6792 Жыл бұрын
That would be horrible when Kanes play style is with his back to goal and him dropping deeper as a 9 gives him so much room in the midfield since he does it on occasion give him the role permanently and he wont get the same freedom. Its the same statement as Maguire as a midfielder. Makes no sense and is absurd
@KindredBrujah
@KindredBrujah Жыл бұрын
@@marcorojas-vazquez6792 Agreed, yeah. The team (both Spurs and England) benefit from him dropping in from up top and pulling defenders out of position.
@MasonGreenWeed
@MasonGreenWeed Жыл бұрын
That's what happen when you had Italian big Sam as gaffer
@RASH_TheBandit
@RASH_TheBandit Жыл бұрын
They need a front 3 that train & play together every opportunity. There's no understanding no cohesion between the 3. They don't merge each other's abilities rather play for themselves. (In my opinion) 👊
@j.b.w.
@j.b.w. Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of when Greece won Euro 2004 with what seemed like only every scoring from corners, that was extremely boring.
@braddbradd5671
@braddbradd5671 Жыл бұрын
Iv noticed soon as a spurs player a mid fielder or defender gets pressured they always pass it back and it ends up with a goal or it goes back to the keeper who does along ball and loses it ,,,now there under pressure agin .We need players like Dembele who is very hard to get the ball off,, if hes pressured he always passes the ball frwd nver back
@rudigoodman2535
@rudigoodman2535 Жыл бұрын
What I don’t understand is at the tail end of last season Conte looked like he was working miracles. Not really sure what’s changed…
@M0J0-RL236
@M0J0-RL236 Жыл бұрын
He got figured out and his luck slowly started to run out. His players got older and his style didn't even change a little bit.
@Mugabe12341
@Mugabe12341 Жыл бұрын
Also some ever so delusional and ungrateful fans.
@yeboahamoafo6500
@yeboahamoafo6500 Жыл бұрын
Tifo woke up and chose violence with that title
@tbsc5088
@tbsc5088 Жыл бұрын
I really don't blame Daniel Levy like alot of Spurs fans do, we have spent plenty of money and have had multiple "winners" in charge of the team as manager. The problem at the moment is the number of players we have in the squad that are either on loan, or so out of favour they will never touch the shirt again (Think Gio Lo Celso, Winks, NDombele, Gil. Spence). Let alone the players that we have signed that are apparently first team quality but never get a look in (Bissouma, Richarlison), and the players that we bought and sold without a fair shot (Rodon, Nkoudou, Clarke)
@divinest
@divinest Жыл бұрын
And now 0-0 game against Milan. Talk about boring 😮‍💨🥱
@ryandiraaaa
@ryandiraaaa Жыл бұрын
The tactics were absolutely just fine if we have the quality of the players. If the LCB and CCB had the sense of dictating the game we could easily win the ball as fast as Romero would love, which means we win it in front defensive line before they got into the last line. When Bentancur is there, Hojbjerg and him would usually become the first person who win the ball and start the counter by moving in forward. But with Skipp the transition getting a lot more slower and the way ball driven up just doesn't work because Emerson and Perisic doesn't have the pace to keep up. Last season Sessegnon were doing just fine because he's one the option on transition making usually 4v3 on the counter with Kane, Kulu, and Son alongside with him. And that's impacted Son's gameplay either, last season Sessegnon was the one who would bring the ball from the defensive line making Son got a free space on the final line. Meanwhile now Perisic and Son seems to be in the same position again and again which is frustrating. Perhaps we need another window to sign a LCB like Bastoni or Ndicka and having a CCB with the Ball Playing ability like Dier and the interception ability like Romero would be fine. Perhaps we should sign a CM with a creative force in terms of playmaking like SMS or Mason Mount. The one who could do both job on the field to cover up bentancur and Hojbjerg.
@Parkyssmokinbbq
@Parkyssmokinbbq Жыл бұрын
Two words can answer this. It’s Tottenham.
@mrIceblink
@mrIceblink Жыл бұрын
pretty accurate analysis.
@marcorojas-vazquez6792
@marcorojas-vazquez6792 Жыл бұрын
Me and a friend who both Coach were talking about this yesterday since Im a Wolves fan and we beat them in the weekend. He said with playing “anti football” if you get the result nobody talks about it all is great but when you start to lose its the first thing people point out and questions start to rise. Guess its the fact that its boring to watch for most. I love playing like this though.
@nastynas420
@nastynas420 Жыл бұрын
Damn all that talent, all that passion from fans and a new stadium! They really bottled every competition where fans thought they would finally win one. Im starting to think that theyre cursed. Even the Special One couldnt win one with them 💀
@Karma2Babylon
@Karma2Babylon Жыл бұрын
Levy denied him the chance
@nastynas420
@nastynas420 Жыл бұрын
@@Karma2Babylon i have to disagree cause they already have a stacked squad when Jose arrived. I mean, Arteta won the FA cup with that raw Arsenal squad and Jurgen also brought that rebuilding liverpool squad all the way to the europa champsionship
@Karma2Babylon
@Karma2Babylon Жыл бұрын
@@nastynas420 yeah, but Levy sacked Jose on eve of cup final
@nastynas420
@nastynas420 Жыл бұрын
@@Karma2Babylon i get your point. Nevertheless, fans surely deserve better
@Karma2Babylon
@Karma2Babylon Жыл бұрын
@@nastynas420 I’ve been Tottenham fan since 1981, I’m numb to it now 🙈
@ANDR3alfaro
@ANDR3alfaro Жыл бұрын
This aged beautifully.
@thenintendocreeper
@thenintendocreeper Жыл бұрын
reminds me of what celtic were like in deila’s last few months
@whatdadogdoin7531
@whatdadogdoin7531 Жыл бұрын
This is how I play in Fifa 23 manager career. But I'm horrible in set pieces. So I try to score from building up play from the ground up.
@t.k.1319
@t.k.1319 Жыл бұрын
We need a crossover with Expressions Oozing for this
@msdm83
@msdm83 Жыл бұрын
I can't see them maintaining fourth. There relying on kane over performing. And luck. Those sort of teams feet found out over a season compared to teams that more consistently attack. They drop points here and there.
@gareththomas183
@gareththomas183 Жыл бұрын
It's absolutely this. So often Spurs try to get the ball to the front 3 too early, possession is lost and they find themselves under pressure again.
@damonimpact01
@damonimpact01 Жыл бұрын
Hey spurs fans, I am spurs fan too but how did I won premier league with half of the squad but got players to fit in the system in Fm23 and 21 that I wanted to play. It was combination of Conte/Sampaoli system. My spurs team were ranked 2nd in the EPL for defence and ranked 3rd/4th attacking by 2.1 difference from 1st ranked team. In the europa league final against our rival but they haven't beat us in our home and draw against them at Emirates with one save another we in the final against Lazio. Whom to blame its levy fault cause I was dealing with bizarro Levy.
@pozsoz
@pozsoz Жыл бұрын
With that shirt he is now officialy Sir James Joseph Bullington
@mehrdud7375
@mehrdud7375 Жыл бұрын
I see that JJ has moved on from talking down Scottish football to talking down Spurs! 😂
@IncredibleMet
@IncredibleMet Жыл бұрын
It’s dirty work but someone has to do it.
@SuperKartoffelpuffer
@SuperKartoffelpuffer Жыл бұрын
The mandate.
@Flash4ML
@Flash4ML Жыл бұрын
The mandate continues. Someone should really write a letter to the editor asking for his resignation, this is getting out of hand
@olli5287
@olli5287 Жыл бұрын
Quick! Somebody fire him!
@runandjump13
@runandjump13 Жыл бұрын
talking nothing but facts here mate :D
@TPW13
@TPW13 Жыл бұрын
watching the spurs is basically just watching son hoping he does something exciting
@larry6400
@larry6400 Жыл бұрын
The champions league match with Ac Milan 2nd said it all !
@TheKrostiman
@TheKrostiman Жыл бұрын
Spurs should replace Eric Dier regardless of their playstyle
@shambhav9534
@shambhav9534 Жыл бұрын
It seems everyone forgot about Spurs this season.
@misters6749
@misters6749 Жыл бұрын
Probably because of Conte’s lack of Faith in the defence.
@jamesj.mccombie5031
@jamesj.mccombie5031 Жыл бұрын
If I had a lack of faith in something, I would not make it my sole goal to allow it to come under so much pressure. Conte is a poor coach.
@otto_jk
@otto_jk Жыл бұрын
@@jamesj.mccombie5031 he is very wealthy actually
@interovic
@interovic Жыл бұрын
​@@jamesj.mccombie5031 a poor coach?😂 what kind of world do you live in where a manager who has 4 serie a titles, a prem, couple of cups, as well as taking a very average italy to the quarters of the euros a "poor" coach? Let me guess, you only watch the premier league and think tottenham's team right now is actually good and better than his Inter squad?
@misters6749
@misters6749 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesj.mccombie5031 I think inflexible is a better word for Conte
@lhy8373
@lhy8373 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesj.mccombie5031 If Spurs move back to back 4. wtf do you think will happen? Spurs will concede even more goals from the pressure.
@joebatty388
@joebatty388 Жыл бұрын
In a year where Spurs are fourth, most teams are effectively worse than them. And if their football, which relies on opponents making mistakes, isn't working, then the next few years will be very hard if they stick with Conte. This will likely be the last year (for a long time) that they remain in the Champions League. With this in mind, it is essential, financially and for the sanity of supporters, to turn this form around, salvage what has been a miserable season and secure Champions League football. A refresh and change of mood is almost certainly a way to enact this. Pochettino coming back would bring this. Spurs almost have an alright team. They need a new centre half, goal keeper and number 10 in the summer but this squad can get top four. Unfortunately for Spurs and their fans, almost every 50/50 footballing decision made by the board and club have been incorrect over the last year. Because of this, I don't hold much faith in them remaining in the Champions League or any even any European Competition next year. From there it is a slippery slope especially with the background running of the club.
@ShaunLevett
@ShaunLevett Жыл бұрын
Hold on. Eric Dier displays leadership?
@abdalla8558
@abdalla8558 Жыл бұрын
I'm an arsenal fan, and even I think it is brutal title lol
@omarg7702
@omarg7702 Жыл бұрын
Conte should watch this
@romeo.3472
@romeo.3472 Жыл бұрын
Spurs went from an attacking free flowing football that got them to a CL final in 2019 and what is the best from up front pairing to play in the PL, to depressing, hard to watch, frustrating football that has nulified its attacking threat under Conte - a manager who I was a huge fan of and thought would take this team forward. This system has proven it not suitable for this team and we need a change. Be interesting what the new manager ops for next season. I hope going back to a back 4 and freeing up that extra man for a playmaking midfield role or another attacking body (4-2-3-1 / 4-3-3 / 4-2-2-2).
@mashfnch30
@mashfnch30 Жыл бұрын
Poch's most successful formation used a back 5
@Benjamin-gt6si
@Benjamin-gt6si Жыл бұрын
@@mashfnch30 Look at zinchenko, he occupies spaces that a central midfielder/attacking midfielder would occupy. The spaces that you occupy in attack can be extremely different to to what your defensive position suggested. If 2 or 3 of those 5 players you mentioned are occupying very advanced areas in attack. Then their team are playing very attacking football. You can have a 5-4-1 “formation” team, playing a very high line, having 70% possessions in the opponent’s half. And you can have a 4-3-3 “formation” team that park the bus.
@mashfnch30
@mashfnch30 Жыл бұрын
@@Benjamin-gt6si Formations have never existed and football has regressed into a middlebrow pseudophilosophy
@Benjamin-gt6si
@Benjamin-gt6si Жыл бұрын
@@mashfnch30 Formation does exist. It usually indicates your overall shape in the defensive phase. In other phases of the game. Your players will deviate from those positions and you would usually have a very different formation in the attacking phase.
@mashfnch30
@mashfnch30 Жыл бұрын
@@Benjamin-gt6si Whoosh
@EmperorDraconianIV
@EmperorDraconianIV Жыл бұрын
They never replaced Ericksen
@sochonik1139
@sochonik1139 Жыл бұрын
Would love to know what you think about the Bayern PSG games
@Pokephosgene
@Pokephosgene Жыл бұрын
Due to my sympathetic attitude towards Son, Perišić and Forster, I've been looking at Spurs under Conte, even though my team is Celtic. I think the problem has been correctly identified, but the solution is/was simple. Kuluševski hugs the line, but is too slow to operate as a winger. He needs to move into the center. That way, he wouldn't block the wing back (Emerson is IMO better than Porro) from bombing forward. Being risk-averse is fine, but long balls instead of "safe" short passes would actually be safer, yet better in attack. If Kuluševski is part of the midfield in a pure 3-5-2 or 3-4-1-2, he can have the whole pitch in front of him in view, and fire passes for Son and Kane to prey on. Getting rid of Dier won't happen. Homegrown quota and all that. What Tottenham should buy are central defenders (to replace Sanchez, Romero and Lenglet) and a keeper.
@zulalulua9645
@zulalulua9645 Жыл бұрын
Compared Conte , Joses in game management and generally tactical flexibility was top class . Thats why is is so successful Cup manager , compared to Conte , Antonios UCL Record is atrocious.
@Benjamin-gt6si
@Benjamin-gt6si Жыл бұрын
Parking the bus. Very flexible indeed.
@christhompson4660
@christhompson4660 Жыл бұрын
His Madrid side set the la liga goalscoring record. Very parking the bus indeed.
@Benjamin-gt6si
@Benjamin-gt6si Жыл бұрын
@@christhompson4660 You can park the bus, playing boring defensive football, make random high cross/long pass to Drogba and win 3-0. Or you can completely control the match playing beautiful attacking football but score zero goals. You can score 10 boring goals in a game. It doesn’t mean the match is entertaining. You can play the best ever attacking football in a match but the match ends 0-0. It doesn’t mean the match is not entertaining.
@Niimerium
@Niimerium Жыл бұрын
@@christhompson4660 Its 121 league goals. most ever scored across all top leagues xD nobody has come close to it, not bayern not barca not city.
@misters6749
@misters6749 Жыл бұрын
Just reminding everyone that Conte had the opportunity to Re-sign Eriksen but didn’t. Despite his moaning about lack of players.
@horsebox5138
@horsebox5138 Жыл бұрын
Also he didn't want Maddison despite the owner wanting to put in an offer
@misters6749
@misters6749 Жыл бұрын
@@horsebox5138 I know right! Oooooo Club Signing, Club Signing!!!!
@neon5433
@neon5433 Жыл бұрын
Just don’t get conte he’s so fustrating at times. Forces the club to buy players and explodes in interviews saying we need to buy new players, the club buys him Porro and Danjuma who he wanted and he benched porro and starts Moura who’s leaving as a free agent over Danjuma 😂
@edenhazard2751
@edenhazard2751 Жыл бұрын
Conte has strong and heavy training sessions and Eriksen has heart probelm. Eriksen wouldnt perfrom in his trainings.
@misters6749
@misters6749 Жыл бұрын
@@edenhazard2751 surely he could be used as an impact sub? 10-15 mins here and there.
@Ethakin
@Ethakin Жыл бұрын
I don’t think this is totally accurate, there’s some great midfield creative talent camped out on the bench right now. Also want to remind people that Poch eventually got two of his ideal signings for his style and they are both out on loan right now because they didn’t perform
@jonkiefner3168
@jonkiefner3168 Жыл бұрын
Mate you’re missing the fact that arsenals academy is the thing that is keeping them afloat. Primarily through Saka, but this weekend’s evidence also shows an academy boy bailing them out. Spurs academy has had some gems no doubt, but not at the same level. The transfers would have arsenal in a similar in-between phase if the academy didn’t produce so many impact players.
@smallsmallish
@smallsmallish Жыл бұрын
Great video as always..but chill on the make up 😆
@felipeoa9474
@felipeoa9474 Жыл бұрын
Why is there no number 7 shirt on the wall?
@themrwoody1434
@themrwoody1434 Жыл бұрын
Watching this now 25 mins into their CL match against Milan. It’s hard to watch the game.
@oesiahmedmozumder3974
@oesiahmedmozumder3974 Жыл бұрын
It's like they don't know what to do when they get the ball => so they lose the ball => get the ball again => lose the ball again...this in loop
@themrwoody1434
@themrwoody1434 Жыл бұрын
@@oesiahmedmozumder3974 exactly. The midfielders try harder to create a pass backwards than they do forward.
@vpnath75
@vpnath75 Жыл бұрын
Best Spurs can hope for is to bring Poch back and sell Kane to fund a rebuild. They didn't win anything under Poch last time but at least they played good football and went to a UCL final.
@LeoAriWibowo
@LeoAriWibowo Жыл бұрын
i love watching them as a rival fan. I find them... "entertaining"
@mattkirkhamm
@mattkirkhamm Жыл бұрын
But the title I assume this video about there entire history ;)
@skim7221
@skim7221 Жыл бұрын
Conte plays safe because we only have one good CB. If we can have a gvardiol, then we may play with formations. Even a 4 at the back.
@neon5433
@neon5433 Жыл бұрын
If we had half decent defenders, not even Gvardiol. Maybe someone like Botman from Newcastle or Kilman from wolves
@skim7221
@skim7221 Жыл бұрын
@@neon5433 true. Botman is good. we had a chance to buy botman.
@bubul_mi
@bubul_mi Жыл бұрын
@Tifo IRL Where did you get your posters/prints at the back?
@kclink1579
@kclink1579 Жыл бұрын
They are painful to watch because I'm a Tottenham fan. Also the excuses and every month "we are doing good now, we have changed it around" knowing that by 2 weeks time we will be back to sucking again, which really always happens.
@KB-xk8cr
@KB-xk8cr Жыл бұрын
Compare last 5 years spurs vs arsenal spending
@Drazeey44
@Drazeey44 Жыл бұрын
Another shambolic performance tonight.
@aka_jr
@aka_jr Жыл бұрын
I actually think that the 4-2-3-1 with Kane as the 10 would be pretty good. Maybe you lose the defensive structure in the midfield but a double pivot of Hojbjerg and Bentancur behind Kane gives him more freedom to express himself. Porro as a full-back may be an issue, but I don't care, I'm an arsenal fan lol I just get annoyed that a squad that good plays so poorly.
@greavsiethespur
@greavsiethespur Жыл бұрын
"Players lose you games, not tactics. There's so much crap talked about tactics by people who barely know how to win at dominoes” - Clough.
@marcorojas-vazquez6792
@marcorojas-vazquez6792 Жыл бұрын
Youre over thinking it why would Kane play as a ten when hes their main target on the counter? He holds up the ball and plays with his back against the goal. Would completely take part of his game away if you play him as a ten. I wouldnt mind seeing a 2 forward partnership with Kane and either richarlison or Son
@marcorojas-vazquez6792
@marcorojas-vazquez6792 Жыл бұрын
Oh i saw you were an arsenal fan so it makes sense you would want to destroy Tottenhams play style lol. Imagine if Kane played as a ten 💀
@Niimerium
@Niimerium Жыл бұрын
Lloris Pedro - Romero - Dier - Perisic Hojberg - Bentancur Richarlison - Kulusveski - Son Kane 4231 like this maybe?
@remmidemmi496
@remmidemmi496 Жыл бұрын
Drop Dier, Perisic, one of Hojberg or Skipp, bring in a decent CB, a left back and a creative midfielder or two - there rly isn't that much to do to have a decent side able to compete at the highest level. We need more creativity from central defense in transition and from midfield so Harry can focus on attack and we'd be able to maybe have a shot at a title instead of finishing 4-6 and have a cup run that finishes around feb/march. It honestly is so effing frustrating. Feel like most Spurs memes and jokes were created by our own fans. We may not produce many goals but top-class memes for everyone to laugh at us.
@isaacprz
@isaacprz Жыл бұрын
That’s the history of the Tottenham
@DenDave_
@DenDave_ Жыл бұрын
Watching this video after the Tottenham - Milan game, and my god is it accurate. Watching paint dry is more exciting than Spurs games, absolute waste of an English Champions League ticket.
@dot4207
@dot4207 Жыл бұрын
Though, this defensive style works against Man city at home.
@masterjayan5926
@masterjayan5926 Жыл бұрын
I bet thomas tuchel gave conte a curse when he shook hands with him, lmao
@louloutri
@louloutri Жыл бұрын
That was excellent! The things you said and how you said them ! Simply the perfect review. Boring is the word, absolutely! You deserve a pay rise cause Antonio gets 15 million for his shite football 😂 I'm so sick of Spurs, you can't imagine.
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