Why are the UK Motoring Press promoting Chinese EVs at every opportunity?

[@mjunsw]

Europe is mad. Thrown away more than a century of built-up competitive advantage, heritage, design and more, as we now compete with China to produce electric vehicles (i can't call them cars) with no style, no class, no personality. The distinguishing features seem to be who has the best touchscreen (should you be touching screens instead of driving?) or who can possible fib most about how far the contraption can go between charges. I just watched a film of a 95 year old man being taken out in his old cars (a Lotus and a Porsche) that he had had for a combined 70 years or so. The cars had both been brought back to beautiful condition. The elderly gentleman loved to be taken back in time with a short drive in these fantastic machines. Flawed most ICE cars may have been, but with character, with workmanship, engineering et al. Do you imagine a man 30 years from now sitting in a BYD or such and reminiscing about the great times he had enjoyed with it? Build Your Dreams? Buy Your Downfall more like it, that is what the European consumer is being pushed to do. By European government. Mad.

[@drizza6489]

Long live your Dinosaurs.

[@JacksonFairweather]

@@drizza6489Long live boring, low quality cars that no one can afford…😂Yes let’s jump up and down and celebrate it…😂

[@binits777]

Had to listen to this as soon as I saw the title. I too have wondered why Chinese EVs are heavily promoted. Thank you for tacking this subject Barrie.

[@MrMackem123]

Look into Agenda 2030, Build Back Better, New World Order and Great Reset. The wall kissers explain that China will lead their New World Order whilst the West is completely decimated.

[@utinirhino7658]

You are spot-on Barry. Thank you for everything you do. My father was in the motor trade for 50 years, I leaned a lot from him along the way!

[@theforthdoctor7872]

You know how it works Barry. Money

[@mickgarbutt3553]

The trouble is Western economies have been plundered by politicians and their oligarch masters for decades. Instead of investing in industry at home they've invested far less in China and used the balance to speculate on markets for personal gain. We are now at the point where the only profitable industry in the US is the arms industry resulting in endless wars. The consequence is we are rapidly becoming poorer and more dependent on plundering other countries. China, on the other hand, has used the investment as a springboard for its own technological and industrial growth resulting in 700 million of its population being lifted out of poverty in the last 20 years. Of course, China is not perfect, but neither are the West and unless we get a significant change in how are economies are manipulated we are all in very serious trouble.

[@chrisbwhittle]

In the push for EVs over ICE vehicles great care needs to be taken over allowing the Chinese flooding the UK market with EVs in order to obtain price parity with ICE cars. China was prevented from having their equipment and software within defence communication systems as it was considered a threat to the security of the UK. However the government appear to be happy to allow them to infiltrate the UK via their cars that are fitted with software that could do immense damage to the UK. Should China ever decided they want to invade Taiwan (or anybody else) at the first sign that the UK and the west show signs they want to take action China could/would hack the software bringing all Chinese EVs possibly other EVs and maybe ICE vehicles to a standstill, who knows what software they have embedded in equipment in these cars. We are walking into a potential catastrophic situation it will be too late when they have decimated the European car industry. I also wonder how much Chinese software is embedded into renewable energy equipment, doesn’t the UK buy all the solar panels from China. If the Chinese spy who was close to Prince Andrew, is considered a problem why not thousands of Chinese cars and suspect software.

[@limitedmark]

They are already in 90% of your electrical goods, phones , computers , door bells , planes , toys, tv's , cameras , industrial components. The list is endless. cars are our least of worries.

[@chrismorrison1955]

The haters seem to all ignore facts like IPhone is made in China and the massive subsides given to US and Euro companies.

[@rubybitch6195]

😂😂😂😂😂 Hilarious

[@davidyoung9561]

China recently started to produce an aircraft called a Comac C919. It looks similar to the Airbus A320. For some reason, this Chinese aircraft is banned from the EU and the US. I wonder if it is due to the possibility of safety issues.

[@stephenwood9687]

@@davidyoung9561 Boeing and Airbus appear to have their own safety issue to worry about recently!

[@barrywhite5899]

We have a BYD dealer here in Bristol. It opened to much fanfare last week. All of the press photos just have the local Chinese population and no (I need to be careful here) Bristolians. I’m certain it’ll be closed within 18 months.

[@matthewgodwin3050]

It'll probably burn to the ground well within 18 months.

[@rbnhd1144]

Lets hope it is.

[@benhamilton5692]

Millions of Uyghurs in Chinese Prison/ Work/ Reeducation /Camps no mention of this in EV Propaganda.

[@mickgarbutt3553]

@benhamilton5692 It's not mentioned because it's simply not true. Don't confuse US State Department BS with fact. Try doing some research before repeating lies.

[@mickgarbutt3553]

I tried to enlighten you to the facts but someone obviously prefers you to remain in ignorance and deleted my post. Do some research.

[@matthewbacon5734]

I went in for tea one night and told my Dad "You've got eight cars out there", I was about ten years old so this was 1980ish. We had a council house on the corner so he sold cars for pocket money and most of them were Renault or Citroen. They were cheap to buy and easy to sell because they just worked. He wouldn't buy and sell Ford or BMW because they were worth what they were worth and not as reliable as people think. Dad was an old school mechanic, listen to an engine and tell you what was wrong.

[@danielcooper6423]

They are making us all poorer and increasing interest rates, so we all buy Chinese products. I'm not fully sure why. But the whole pro EV thing is also to push us towards the Chinese products. I love how the Japanese have noticed and just go nah. We'll keep making engines that power batteries, coz let's face it, the Chinese can't build engines

[@davidyoung9561]

My nephew has bought a Chinese motorbike. He had a Chinese built 50cc scooter beforehand. The scooter was called AJS but nothing like the AJS brand of the past. The scooter in my opinion was not very well built. The motorbike he has now is a 125 sport looking machine that looks similar to the Yamaha YZF-R125. Granted, the Chinese machines are considerably cheaper but I don't think the quality rivals that of German or Japanese machines. The Japanese machines seem to hold their value much better. I am aware, Chinese motorbikes have slightly improved over the last 20 years but I would still not buy one. Another thing I've noticed with Chinese brands is over the last 20 years, many have come and disappeared. I wonder why.

[@stephenwood9687]

I won't have any EV's at the moment due to rapid evolution meaning massive depreciation, and the fact that even the top Euro brand ones are seemingly unfixable by main dealers. But we do have 3 Chinese MG petrol cars in family, 7 years old, 5 years old and 3 years old, none have needed more than air in the tyres and screen wash since new. The 5 year old one has just had a trade in offer that means in has only lost £2075 since new. All the engine work and chassis work was done by ex MGR engineers in the UK , and one of the issues with many newer European cars are serious engine problems,( wet belts etc), and Stellantis is now so big that quality appears to have gone out of the window, just like British Leyland all those years ago. I would love to buy British again, but will have to put up with my old Classic MG for weekend fun.

[@davidyoung9561]

@stephenwood9687 I like the look of the MG5 and would consider one if it was offered as a petrol instead of just electric.

[@jedjones9047]

No body cares who makes them nobody wants them.

[@rubybitch6195]

@@jedjones9047 no, no-one wants them. That's why they sold more than 25 million vehicles last year. Which is about a third of all vehicles sold on the planet.

[@69waveydavey]

Get yourself to Lancaster, there's a Chinese restaurant called "Mong Kok". I was there last week stood aghast, laughing nobody seemed bothered. There's loads of "Wang changs" parked outside.

[@alrandall5264]

Thanks to you and Geoff buys cars. I was considering buying an EV until I watched a few of your videos. Even though I am a prime candidate for an EV, low local mileage and home charging I can't bring myself to get one. It would only make sense to lease a brand new one but I do not want the monthly expense. I have a 66 plate BMW 520d M Sport Tourer with 75,000 miles on the clock and it is ideal for my needs and an absolute pleasure to drive so I have decided to treat it to the full valet and ceramic treatment experience and keep it.

[@TerenceBiddle]

The trouble is we have prostituted ourselves for cheap consumer goods. We have sold our souls to regimes that are awful. But this is our fault. We are greedy. Theres nothing wrong with electric cars. Its just another way of making the wheels turn. 99% of drivers don’t give a shit how its done. The chinese issue is a separate problem. They manufacture everything. Cars are just a fraction if what they do. And we can never compete whilst price is king

[@michaelgreen5515]

U nailed it I like most could not give a flying feck if my car is made is China with forced slave labour. I just want to get from point A-b safely and as cheaply as possible. Test drove a MG4 ( also hired one on hols) & a BYD. Ended up with a Citreon EC4 and its French. Not a big French fan its just 2 year old with 16k miles & it has depreciated from 36 to 14k.

[@GrahamNewman-mq7gr]

The real problem is "THERE IS TOO MUCH PRODUCTION OF UN-WANTED / UNSELABLE / UNUSEABLE / PRODUCT , IN ALL INDUSTRIES. What if all these AUTOTRADER EVs . Suddenly apeared on the road . What is the "FINANCIAL VALUE " of these thousands of EVs on AUTOTRADER. There is a MOUNTAIN OF DEBT with these been covered up , and it is growing .

[@martinsoelby5902]

It is the same in Denmark. BYD, Xpeng, MG, Aiways, Hongqi, JAC, Voyah and Maxus. They are every where on the interweb and Facebook (X too but I'm not on X). I´m pretty convinced that, and would not be surprised at all, if we start seeing influencers being paid by the CCP to pitch Chinese cars. I know it is a bit "tin foil hat like" but CCP spares no expense to get the whole market. I find it hard just want a Volvo 850 style car.

[@ianharley1726]

They already are bought as in the msm.

[@MrMackem123]

The Zionists own the CCP. It's their Global New World Order.

[@kalex381]

These Chinese cars are rip off in the Uk. for example BYD Atto3 2024 model starts at £37k in the UK. In China retails for £13k (120,000CNY) . Nearly 3 times more expensive. For this reason I refuse to buy a Chinese car in UK.

[@chrisj6321]

Yeap when I checked last an mg4 was 26000 pounds in uk v 16000 in Australia

[@davidadams5116]

Just don't buy any new car, especially an EV. Keep your old reliable car so no finance at £500pm to contend with. Let them waste millions of pounds on advertising

[@vacation_generation]

Great video Barrie🤣 Lovin it.

[@peterpan6821]

Watch the serpentza channel and tell me you want to put your family in a Chinese EV.

[@stephenwood9687]

Or a Tesla if you search the two recent crashes in France and Canada, both very sadly cremating all 8 occupants as they couldn't get out as the door locks are electronic. It was also reported that it was a Tesla hire car that burnt down the Lisbon airport car part and 200 cars, so it is not just Chinese EV's . Tesla has now replaced the 911 and 350Z as the most fatal car in the USA.

[@rbnhd1144]

@@stephenwood9687 Great Post, I love the fatality details.

[@TwoCombs]

Well said 👍

[@colinturner4158]

Top man Barry thanks for a excellent podcast

[@BarrieCrampton]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@jonathancolling2284]

There is no Loyalty to Brands that matter when money is involved. Everyone is out for themselves and loyalty to ones own country or economy is often seen as racism except when other countries do it. Money talks...

[@zzhughesd]

Papa Nicola. When advertising meant something. Cough, Jag-2024. They met up last year did Papa and N…. Loads great pics of them last 24 months.

[@BarrieCrampton]

Brilliant

[@systemx4]

The chinese couldn't make good ice cars, but they sure can throw a battery in a metal box. No way I would buy one

[@ambassadorfromreality1125]

The chinese government realised some time ago the world would need battery cars because of their fundamental advantages, no noxious emmisions whuch damages health and no CO2 emmissions which damages climate. Just facts. Why bother developing ice vehiclrs when there is no future for them? The legacy automakers have struggled to keep things as they are , and have nothing to compete with when the inevitable abandonment of ice arrives. That time is now but it has been coming for years. They just didn't want to face it, now they cant. I should add that all the misinformation in the mailoexpressograph has only hindered the market development making a smooth transition impossible

[@jcfallows]

The Chinese are making cars that the UK public wants to buy! It's a buyers market, if European car makers don't make cars what customers want to buy at the right price they deserve to go bang! They have had 20 years to make sure they didn't lose their market now it's too late for most of them.

[@BarrieCrampton]

Rubbish

[@johnnydoe1984]

Who wants to buy ?? 😅🤪🤣 Chinese communist crap ! They keep discounting the Omoda Chinese EV vehicles at KAP . They started at 28k , then 25 , now the same cars are at 21k , 6 months on . Their STILL not selling 😂😅🤣😅 apart from a couple sold to some climate hoax believers.

[@markwilliams2257]

I still don't think the big petrochemical firms were ever gonna just roll over and let their business model die. And unless a new infrastructure of charging super hubs are gonna be built to replace the petrol stations...which will never happen due to cost..or be possible due to National grid limitations...we won't be all in EV's. I suspect good old filling stations will be selling petrol and diesel for many years.

[@vrillon778]

You were on good form for this one Barrie, really made me laugh!

[@malph9216]

Autotrader, Autocar, Car and other motoring 'establishments' have drunk way too much EV koolade. They are spouting so much rubbish promoting EVs it's beyond belief, and most of it amounts to supporting even more taxpayer money being spent on 'incentivising' EV uptake. Even their YT car reviews are clearly promoting these EVs that nobody wants to buy.

[@JacksonFairweather]

The Guardian newspaper groups owns Autrader, who itself is owned by the major US hedge funds. Who happen to have short selled European car manufacturers and have major shareholding in Chinese EVs 😂 They know they can put all the European car manufacturers out of business because they control the governments 😂 Lots of money to be made boys by the globalists out of the USA from destroying the European car manufacturers who need to find where they left their spine. 😂

[@MrMackem123]

Almost like it's an ideology / cult from the wall kissing overlords.

[@ridbanner1407]

I work a lot on Chinese motorcycles.the best one by far was a 1998 jinlun 125. It had a glass headlight ,forks with good chrome ( perfect after 15 years ) and a quiet engine. It was a straight knock off of the Honda cb125rs HOWEVER the cb125rs had a bad points ignition and a terrible disc brake that would seize up every winter. The Jinlun had a reliable CDI ignition and a different brake calliper which worked fine. I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THIS BIKE. Fast forward to the current offerings ,Kit Kat wrapper chrome, terrible electronics,flimsy plastic,stress crack steel and frames that have snapped in half whilst under warranty,flimsy wiring with recycled copper content ,just utter rubbish BUT IT IS CHEAP and so are the parts. There is very little quality in Chinese motorcycles now but there was 30 years ago.

[@neil1997]

"The Mégane wasnt iconic it was shite" 😂 Agree on phase1 clios... They just ran and ran (the diesel vans were had needed loads of wheel bearings... Though we were delivering coal 6 days a week!)

[@1957bat]

Shit built. I watched the Range Rover facsimile on KZbin & it was appallingly constructed. A death trap waiting to happen, even before it burnt your house down.

[@nicnak4475]

Way before your time Barrie, but we used to sell loads of Renaults, 16, 17, 15, 12, 6 and 4's and they were blooming good cars, rusted like everything else of that era, but good drivers and pretty reliable and very versatile and comfortable.

[@BarrieCrampton]

Sold my fair share of Renaults, 4s 5s 12s etc, always wanted an Alpine and a Dauphine 😂

[@trevordodd2019]

My son worked for Mercedes and had company cars. The latest cars are hideous and the build quality is woeful. They don't seem any better than a Chinese car especially as modern cars and products have built in obsolescence anyway.

[@johnshaw359]

They don't care about cars in the way most enthusiasts might, so long as there are cars to be traded and they get a cut from each sale and a reliable source of advertisement revenue.

[@willumwhitmore9419]

It's indirect advertising. Revenue from the Chinese makers

[@eddiegremlin]

Did Yugo sell their tooling to China?

[@Z01nk]

I haven't changed any settings but this sounds normal again. Maybe it was the jumper you were wearing 🤣

[@AndyK.1]

Oh those EW window controllers did like to fail

[@RobertSmith-di5ll]

They really do all look the same.

[@colinturner4158]

I’ve hardly seen any BYD that said I don’t know where in the world they’ve sold them.

[@bentullett6068]

If you watch Serpentza or China Observer channels you will know how bad these chinese built EV's are. You also learn that the EV industry isn't 100% great in China either as the companies that formed about 4-5 years ago keep closing down factories due to financial issues. The car reliability isn't great either as many suffer thermal runaway problems or have dangerous self driving technology. Some cars have even been found to leak electricity into the structure of the car which technically electrcutes the people in the car.

[@thisisnumber0]

A huge number of Chinese brands are expected to go bust. Where would that leave a UK owner needing parts?

[@carlsimon666]

Barry you don't know how to say penguin unless you said something else😂

[@BarrieCrampton]

🤔 www.eurogroupforanimals.org/news/pangolins-may-have-spread-coronavirus-humans

[@michaelgreen5515]

I like Barry he seems a decent bloke with great experience. Have to disagree here most could not give a flying feck if my car is made is China with forced slave labour. I just want to get from point A-B safely and as cheaply as possible. Test drove a MG4 ( also hired one on hols) & a BYD. They are decent enough cars at a lot better than the legacy brands price wise. Who cares if it is subsidised. The legacy brands have been taking the piss and over charging us on cars for years. Ended up with a Citreon EC4 and its French. Not a big French fan its just 2 year old with 16k miles & it has depreciated from 36 to 14k. I love it and I hope to get a decade out of this EV. I also have a 2004 Toyota Corrola 70k miles, 2013 Nissan Quashi 107k & a 2021 Dacia Sandero Stepway 10k.

[@nigelford936]

Having bought my first ice Chinese brand car four years ago and never having a problem with it i foolish decided to buy a new car made in Europe big mistake nothing but trouble from day one.roughly six months later it had to go I'd had enough. Saw a new Chinese brand which launched around September and decided to take the plunge up to now not regretted a moment the thing is you buy what you can afford barry I've been in the transport industry all my working lifeand with a seven year warranty good performance and a price i personally can afford remember what happened to the British bike industry in the 70s great channel agree with 99 per cent with all you say im afraid evs aren't for me

[@rbnhd1144]

Once everything we buy is made in China the prices will go sky high, its just a matter of time, we are getting closer to that than many realise, we will all Pay the price. What we doing is insane.

[@tichwykes]

Auto trader have been pushing EV's for ages & they've even got Rory Reid pushing them now plus they have regular contests to win an EV, well that would be great for those who can charge them at home but not everyone can myself included.

[@jonathancolling2284]

@@tichwykes I often enter that competition hoping to win the EV. I would sell it ( try) and then use the money to buy a used petrol car 👍

[@tichwykes]

Problem is dealers don't want them but I guess if you did win one you wouldn't be out of pocket due to their rapid depreciation.

[@brendanpells912]

Judging by what they cost to buy in their home market, there's an awful lot of profit to be made selling Chinese cars in the UK. Build cost in China is far lower, especially wages, which is easy when you don't have trades unions. It took a long time for MG to overcome perceptions of being cheap and nasty, just as it did for Hyundai and Kia. If you want to buy one of these new Chinese brands, you have to think whether they will be around in a few years, as there is expected to be a big shake-out of brands as the home market becomes saturated. Anyone remember 'that'll be the Daewoo'?

[@davidjames4184]

Just imagine us all going electric the country would come to a standstill 😅

[@LeMagnum440]

Exactly the same with motorcycles right now. All utube and press talking heads waxing lyrical about price and equipment, all "borrowed" tech. With no talk of reliability or servicing into the future. They like taking the silver 😢

[@martinday2815]

Giving so much away, and becoming reliant on foreign manufacturing. Look at anything you buy now, even Welsh souvenirs, made in China.

[@stevezodiac491]

Why don't you get a degraded cheap old Nissan Leaf Barry for going forwards and backwards to work ? Mine is degraded by 42% but it still does about a third more miles than your Ami at 60 plus miles range, even in the winter, in comfort, you wouldn't have had to fit a diesel heater and it probably would have been cheaper to buy ?

[@frogmastiff8198]

must be the same guys at Renault making warning lights for Citroen too

[@petershores]

Love to know you thoughts on fellow KZbinr 1:52 Electric Viking - he almost sounds like a Chinese agent or friend of Prince Andrew…

[@rockinginafreeworld3256]

Seems like this guy is worried about his business the Chinese are taking.

[@BarrieCrampton]

Well done, I’m retiring 😂 The Chinese are taking a lot of peoples business, especially the ones who are selling Chinese EVs because they ain’t selling, and they are losing money 😂

[@davidkenning9939]

If you are dull enough to buy one then have issues what are the lead time on spare parts. Bet your care will be off the road for an eternity

[@ArnoldClarke]

Even the ones that are not coming here???

[@petew1810]

BYD.. “Borrowed Your Design” or the more popular “Burn Your Drive”🙄

[@jrosam9569]

"Burn your domicle" ?

[@petew1810]

Good one👍

[@matthewwiddows6319]

Don't trust any of these mags etc, byd will be pumping loads of money into promoting evs and the brand.

[@colinturner4158]

We’ve become a service country you can blame British companies who’ve reduced costs by taking their factories out of the uk to the Far East

[@ianchalklen1047]

How about the motoring press take a balanced view and discuss all aspects of China and to be specific, the CCP. To talk about Carbon Dioxide emissions, human rights violations or geo political influence through any underhanded means possible; money. Weekly, you have the China Show on KZbin which covers all aspects of life in China and the influence of the CCP on its citizens and its World view. They cover EV’s and many of the 90+ companies making them are expected to go bust when the government money ends. Isn’t it ironic that in order to reduce carbon dioxide emissions in this country that we are being pushed into brands that come from the World’s biggest polluter. Utter madness.

[@m109nak]

And not forgetting the least reliable brand in the UK 2024 according to what car......MG

[@colinturner4158]

Back handers maybe

[@colinturner4158]

The Germans and the Japanese build the most reliable cars that I’m aware of I’m not including super cars range rovers etc.

[@colinturner4158]

If it’s cheap it’s cheap for a reason

[@foppo100]

Just buy a European EV if you want to.If you don't leave it.

[@JelloTypeR]

Ren-no and not Ren-alt. It’s like fingernails down a blackboard to my ears.

[@pstanyer1]

We should be able to buy the cheap chinese cars they are not much worse that the offerings from VW or Vauxhall. Im really happy to buy a cheap EV and save the planet I just dont want to pay more that a petrol car with a range of around 300 miles. I dont care if its chines india ethiopean or european

[@DaveG7920]

Why not? They are new, cost effective, use the latest technology and are changing the global car market, should they just ignore them and/or criticise them? That would just be British media propaganda, is that OK and Chinese propaganda bad?

[@JacksonFairweather]

Autotader owned by the Guardian who is owned by Blackrock and the US Hedge funds. Who happen to own our government and all our politicians, the EU and most European governments. They have a lot of money bet on destroying the European car market and lots of money invested in the Chinese trash EV brands. Of course they are going to use their media organisations as free advertising, why would they not? But lets not pretend this is a good thing, or will result in better quality cars or be at all good for the UK and EU economy mate. Come on, its another foreign scam out of New York with Chinese assistance.

[@chasf3433]

The Chinese have the technology and manufacturing capability to produce excellent EVs but my concern is the never ending price war in their domestic market that will make brands put all their energies into building cheaper rather than better and many will probably go bust. Also the proliferation of models will probably mean big issues with availability of parts and software updates on older cars in markets like Europe where consumers do not see cars as disposable appliances like fridges.

[@bp8339]

Technology stolen from the West and made with Chinesium. Another shill, eh.

[@tonymaiorano2749]

The best sedan I ever had was a 2001 model, British built by BMW Rover 75. They closed down because of an idiot, popular 6ft6 TV presenter, who couldn't fit in it, didn't like it, because it didn't go fast enough for him, so the brexit-mentality didn't buy it. I kept it for 20 years just ordinary maintenance.

[@drizza6489]

Seems a lot of pommies are still living in the stone age.

[@MrMackem123]

Seems like the Aussie whingers are mostly brainwashed simple minded fools.

[@B2C2007]

I'm intrigued by this episode but for none of the reasons you'll like. Everything about our approach to cars in Europe is legacy. We talk about the past. How long things last. Craftmanship this..character that. How dare the Chinese etc. Your exasperation is a cross between shooting the messenger and shouting at the sky. It's not going to get us anywhere.

[@melvinnnamah9040]

Cheaper cars are better for the consumer. Why should the consumer care where a car is from? How is this any different from Japanese or Korean cars that are already all over the place

[@ohyesitsme]

Because the Japanese and Korean cars are not subsidised by a regime that is out to destroy western industry. Go ahead and buy these Chinese cars and just watch how the unemployment in the west will snowball as legacy car firms start to shut up shop along with their suppliers. And then watch how your taxes go up massively to pay for all the unemployment benefits. That's how it's different. You're welcome.

[@T-mw4mu]

You miss the point. Modern cars are full of software, In the event of War the enemy just activates the software and every car they have supplied is immobilized. To deeply embedded in the cars electronics to rectify quickly if ever cost effectively. Now you may say China has no intention of going to war with Europe or North America. All I say is lets not take the risk and maybe just maybe keep some legacy Western car manufacturers in business. I am not even saying ban all Chinese cars, just keep the percentage very low.

[@melvinnnamah9040]

@@T-mw4mu so you don’t trust China but you trust every other country and their software? All these cars are filled with Chinese made components already anyway, cameras, microphones, cloud servers, microchips, infotainment hardware. If they wanted to spy on us they already could

[@joytotheworld9109]

CCP is fundamentally different from the parties ruling Japan and South Korea. A lot more like North Korea. Cheaper is not better, not the way the CCP operate.

[@chrismorrison1955]

💯

[@davidspendlove5900]

The world is moving on.