Why Are TV Shows So Dark? How to Adjust Your Setup for Dark Scenes | WSJ

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Күн бұрын

TV shows like “House of the Dragon” and “Stranger Things” have come under fire for being too dark. Literally. WSJ’s Kenny Wassus spoke with experts about why shows are leaving us squinting and how to adjust your TV to help.
Illustration: Alex Kuzoian for The Wall Street Journal
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@labloke5020
@labloke5020 Жыл бұрын
This is an extreme example, but a lot of TV shows/movies are getting darker. I really do hate this new trend.
@atomicshadowman9143
@atomicshadowman9143 Жыл бұрын
I quit watching them. If more people do that it'll stop this nonsense.
@ligametis
@ligametis Жыл бұрын
When white walls is a problem to watch TV then it is a problem with movie or show.
@07Flash11MRC
@07Flash11MRC 6 ай бұрын
@@atomicshadowman9143 "I quit watching them.": That's a good start, but as long as people keep buying films, keep using streaming networks and keep going to the cinema to watch them, it'll never stop.
@aprozsolt8046
@aprozsolt8046 4 ай бұрын
unwatchable dark detailess piece of craps.
@jakem9519
@jakem9519 2 ай бұрын
I can’t even watch any Apple TV show it’s a bonehead mood unsubbed from Apple TV as a result
@ishmael802
@ishmael802 Жыл бұрын
I honestly hate how TV is filmed nowadays
@bngr_bngr
@bngr_bngr Жыл бұрын
This issue was particularly a problem on The Walking Dead. There were to many scenes that were to dark. The scene just was not lit properly. Really done to cut cost. Toward the end of the show, they started to light their night scenes, so we could see what was happening. We understand there are no lights at night and it’s pitch dark. Yet no one is going to adjust their TV during a dark scene. We realize there needs to be a bit of unreality to watch and enjoy the show.
@donkinea6357
@donkinea6357 Жыл бұрын
technically, our eyes adjust to see in darkness. For calling artist vision when completely dark in movie making is full of it. You can't see when there is ZERO information recorded. PERIOD!
@Cmdaddy88
@Cmdaddy88 Жыл бұрын
It looks fine on an OLED, or even a Plasma for that matter. LCDs are really not that capable of playing very dark scenes
@giosant5327
@giosant5327 7 ай бұрын
@@Cmdaddy88lcd is better w peak brightness its just how deep the blacks can get and more dimming zones...but if not well lit they all look too dark imo
@perrypereyra6671
@perrypereyra6671 Жыл бұрын
recent Black Panther I watched in theaters is just so dark that I can see the white screen behind and then I wish we could have theaters revolution where we dump projection system and use real pixel display with OLED, except IMAX film of course, it just infinitely way ahead in terms of quality
@Seacai150
@Seacai150 Жыл бұрын
I can’t stand this. You have to be in a pitch black room to see anything and even then my eyes struggle.
@luisnuno8985
@luisnuno8985 Жыл бұрын
If you make them darker the quality of the costumes and CGI doesn't have to be very good. My conspiracy theory
@CURTSNIPER
@CURTSNIPER 8 ай бұрын
that trick has been around since the infancy of special effects for one key reason. information, its more obvious something is fake when placed in a bright environment like under the noon day sun, than in a breaking down ship lost in space
@zukacs
@zukacs Жыл бұрын
FILMMAKER MODE is effort made by uhd-alliance, which removes all post-processing and shows the content in originals colors
@tom_foolery93
@tom_foolery93 Жыл бұрын
Switching from HDR to SDR fixed everything on my Hisense H9G including that infamous HOTD episode.
@airjaff
@airjaff 2 ай бұрын
I can't even switch hdr off when the TV detects hdr content, I have a hisense pled
@chrismv102
@chrismv102 Жыл бұрын
I'm a film editor. House of the Dragon is too dark...It loses the ability to see the expressions on the actor's faces. I gave up after 5 episodes...also it's not nearly as good as it's predecessor.
@josieborchardt
@josieborchardt 2 күн бұрын
It’s ridiculous how dark they have come.
@Dobviews
@Dobviews 9 ай бұрын
They control the light, at this point if it is too dark for a decently priced TV... I will just refuse to watch it.
@LiangHuBBB
@LiangHuBBB Жыл бұрын
in the new black panther movie I couldnt see anything on the night scenes!
@shahjehan
@shahjehan Жыл бұрын
If it’s too dark, I stop watching
@jonathanparle8429
@jonathanparle8429 3 ай бұрын
I already do all those things but TV shows are still too dark. After starting to watch The Pact series 2 after half an hour of screaming at the family to buy a better light bulb for their house, I just gave up.
@raycrossley5398
@raycrossley5398 6 ай бұрын
Most of the movies we watch today on a smart TV are realy disign to be watched in the dark in a movie theater. Any anbant light on the screen will send the screen dark To watch these movies on a smart TV we have to watch them in allmost totle darkness
@jesusramos3426
@jesusramos3426 Жыл бұрын
I think show makers do this to troll die hard fans
@doctafaustus
@doctafaustus Жыл бұрын
As someone who has low-light visual impairment, I hate this!
@theaxer3751
@theaxer3751 Жыл бұрын
Don't feel bad about it. I can see perfectly, and I still don't see anything.
@naxxorm723
@naxxorm723 Жыл бұрын
There is a lot of factors... The source (bad post production gradation with bad implementation of "directors intent" if it is converted from.an SDR format then to HDR10 then to Dolby Vision. The other issue can be a bad calibration from the device or tv internal app given the tv model.with its maximum peak brightness personal value... And after all things already mentioned you have the proper tv settings/calibration depending on each model/brand... Its very dissapointing to not have a very refined final product in the end...
@m_a_s6069
@m_a_s6069 7 ай бұрын
All the tweaking and calibration in the world will not fix "intentional creative decision". IT'S STILL TOO DARK!!!
@dogratco
@dogratco Жыл бұрын
Suggest checking Vincent's HDTVTest channel on KZbin for a very technical deep-dive on this topic.
@nerd26373
@nerd26373 Жыл бұрын
I've had this issue with 1899. Seems like this is fairly common in other television shows and films.
@FutureCommentary1
@FutureCommentary1 Жыл бұрын
First read SINCE 1899 :-D. My first thought wasn't that TV didn't exist it was how are you still alive.
@shahjehan
@shahjehan Жыл бұрын
Got cancelled 😂
@defsnotdevyn
@defsnotdevyn Жыл бұрын
I had to watch it at night to see it a little better lol
@1hunda100
@1hunda100 3 ай бұрын
Even when I play 2k my tv is still dark on some play areas
@jasonleahy5543
@jasonleahy5543 Жыл бұрын
I live in the UK and British tv dramas made by the BBC, ITV and Channel 4 are also very dark, I can't even see fights and action scenes shot at night such as episodes of the BBC SAS Rogue Heroes based on a true story, I can't see the soldiers attacking German airfields in North Africa during WW2 it looks as if the production firms are using natural lighting instead of artificial lighting, I watch telly on a 2009 Apple iMac not a tv and I can't find a setting on my computer to make the screen brighter, even the VLC media player which has more setting than anyone needs doesn't seem to have a way to brighten the screen.
@karenk3593
@karenk3593 Жыл бұрын
I have a really old (2011?) MacBook Pro and recently found the setting to change the screen settings. Changed mine to "cinema" and it made an enormous difference. Can't remember the steps, but I found it by Googling changing screen setting on MacBook Pro. Hope that works for you.
@madcow3417
@madcow3417 Жыл бұрын
So... film makers are intentionally screwing up their content and we can fix it by turning up the brightness?
@braxtonwoullard1188
@braxtonwoullard1188 2 ай бұрын
Some of it has to do with the tv screens being reflective nowadays, and most people try to watch movies on their phones outside in broad daylight when the sun is at its highest.
@jonathanparle8429
@jonathanparle8429 3 ай бұрын
Funny how those two movies The Descent and The Descent 2 were excellent, yet filmed in dark underground cave-like sets and probably have more pitch black pixels on the screen at any given time than any film I have ever watched before, yet the directors and crew always made sure the darkness in a given scene was located precisely only where it really mattered and did not obscure the actual action that you did need to see. I wish that all cinematography was that good.
@giosant5327
@giosant5327 7 ай бұрын
Yesterday watching a movie almost made me consider changing tv but what ive seen is some content looks great and some is just not good too dark and grainy
@jjfhbnkkbf
@jjfhbnkkbf Жыл бұрын
They are dark in terms of content these days, especially netflix
@karenk3593
@karenk3593 Жыл бұрын
and amazon
@user-yg8vo2hu6u
@user-yg8vo2hu6u 12 күн бұрын
actually thts wht makes those shows look real to me....i mean where would you get the lighting in the night in....in full moon day only we cant see the details of each others face in real life?
@dmitriyobidin6049
@dmitriyobidin6049 Жыл бұрын
Yea, i should buy OLED to watch those dark screens shoved to me by streaming services in their full glory... If the show is too dark it doesn't matter how good your tv at displaying darkness. I want to watch the show, not the black square...
@PaulHo
@PaulHo Жыл бұрын
Into his grandpa sweater. 🥺
@PhiLLyPhiLLz
@PhiLLyPhiLLz 3 ай бұрын
Do not ever use Vivid mode, it is meant to make the tv standout in big stores. Movie mode or Dolby Vision ONLY.
@rui569
@rui569 Жыл бұрын
Why are some TV shows (and banners) meant to be watched late at night so bright?
@t.b.3511
@t.b.3511 2 сағат бұрын
So basicslly we are turning oled tvs to lcd tvs to watch contrnt
@John-Jacob-Smith
@John-Jacob-Smith 11 ай бұрын
Funny how movies and shows made decades ago for a fraction of the cost with inferior technology didn't have these issues.
@CURTSNIPER
@CURTSNIPER 8 ай бұрын
neither did the display technology of the viewer, technology will always have growing pains
@musicisthegateway
@musicisthegateway Жыл бұрын
Bravo!! On-Brand condescending report from WSJ. Most outstanding story about how the content doesn't suck, YOU suck! "You" being the viewer that doesn't calibrate their TV like a seasoned veteran and buy an expensive TV to begin with. No wonder people hate the media.
@FrancoQwerty
@FrancoQwerty Жыл бұрын
2:49 _"every shade of black"_ 🤣👍
@jdzajdza
@jdzajdza Жыл бұрын
It give me Apple vibes “you are holding your phone wrong”
@tuvoca825
@tuvoca825 Жыл бұрын
I assumed they were talking about how the story lines were too dark in this generation! LoL. The producers are editing this stuff in dark rooms. LoL. That's part of the issue.
@methos-ey9nf
@methos-ey9nf Жыл бұрын
I will concede it's an artistic choice - a stupid artistic choice.
@paulconway384
@paulconway384 Жыл бұрын
4k looks way too dark. 1080 Bluray nice and bright.
@jaydibernardo4320
@jaydibernardo4320 Жыл бұрын
Vox made a video about this as well as a number of web sites cover this.
@akashverma5756
@akashverma5756 Жыл бұрын
There is no issue with TV, directors just need to reduce its ego. Now a days, directors consider their ego more important than audience viewing experience.
@sorinpopa1442
@sorinpopa1442 6 ай бұрын
Exactly , hate how my brand new 1300 nits , miniled tv looks in some HDR or DB. Vision movies , like way darker and duller compared to SDR.
@michaelwyckoff7593
@michaelwyckoff7593 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that's the way some of them are filmed.
@ivanchavez6226
@ivanchavez6226 9 ай бұрын
Literally every show on apple tv
@r.morris5589
@r.morris5589 Жыл бұрын
how about shows that have to much reading with subtitles. It is visual not a book.
@zztop7000
@zztop7000 5 ай бұрын
The Matrix 4 is also very dark you need to watch it in complete dark room when watching in 4k projector. This is 4k Matrix 4 i think this is just the beginning there's going to be alot of dark seen in movies it's up to producers. I thought HDR is going to be brighter bluray disc is not too dark we should go back to bluray.
@KTM-rh8uj
@KTM-rh8uj Жыл бұрын
Just a few comments from Kevin Miller: 1- Regarding the viewing angle, having your eyes in the center of the screen is ideal. I cannot recommend viewing anywhere near 45 degrees off angle horizontally, especially with LCD displays. 2- I also totally disagree with the recommendation of using the Dynamic or Vivid Picture Mode, which is essentially ''Best Buy"" torch mode and completely color inaccurate. I would recommend you spend a little time on determining what are the best settings in the TV (Picture mode, backlight, black level, etc...), and analyze your viewing environment. With very dark material as mentioned in the video, TURN THE LIGHTS OFF!
@slong5082
@slong5082 Жыл бұрын
2 - but is it brighter?
@LuisRodriguez-ef8vg
@LuisRodriguez-ef8vg 8 ай бұрын
This solved with mini led tv… not deepest black level but close and u can see the details
@Raj_Das
@Raj_Das Жыл бұрын
OLED owners- I want perfect black level Calibrators- Making shows/movies so black that even the white subtitle hurt the eyes
@Poweranimals
@Poweranimals Жыл бұрын
Honestly, this stuff all gives me anxiety.
@joe10117
@joe10117 2 ай бұрын
wrong response he said it s not the content aired YES !! it is..... it s called standard definition to 1080 P COLORIZING over what was fine darker shadows HDR red tones to much Facial enhancements touched up darker without keeping it cleaner anyone company who s out there made it darker added rinkles shadows that never were at all that bad or dark so yes it s the content change over not not not our TV s...
@oscaryuen311
@oscaryuen311 Жыл бұрын
very convenient when black friday is coming up
@SuperHitman55
@SuperHitman55 Жыл бұрын
This is why I rather watch UHD without HDR. If there's only UHD HDR then I'll stick to 1080P as it's not dark
@shashankshekhar2611
@shashankshekhar2611 Жыл бұрын
so HoD was not a podcast?
@RXP91
@RXP91 7 ай бұрын
The house of dragons was mastered too dark. Your calibrator was wrong. Dolby vision mastering calls for ambient light of 5 nits, not total darkness
@ew2645
@ew2645 Жыл бұрын
Oh I was thinking psychologically dark
@mirabella2154
@mirabella2154 Жыл бұрын
Me too.
@ew2645
@ew2645 Жыл бұрын
@@mirabella2154 I love the tv show Hannibal but it is dark and graphic AF.
@ccx22
@ccx22 Жыл бұрын
I'm never going to watch too dark content with soo much hassle.... simple I you want me to see make it visible TO MEE
@karenk3593
@karenk3593 Жыл бұрын
amen. me too. I just stop watching if no settings i find make it clear enough.
@tonicalloway7227
@tonicalloway7227 Жыл бұрын
"What!?"..
@Cap_management
@Cap_management Жыл бұрын
I have much better solution which I successfully do for years. I skip all dark scenes until there is light again and if entire movie is dark I skip the movie as its not worth watching if you see nothing half the time. BTW I have a plasma TV from Panasonic aka top of TV other than OLED and still dark scenes are bad. I will not pay thousands Dollars to buy expensive OLED TV because they produce junk movies these days.
@aprozsolt8046
@aprozsolt8046 4 ай бұрын
So the creator intend that you can't se nothing on the screen in HDR. Good to know. It is a joke, that we have high brightness tv-s and the overall avarage HDR brightness level of the movies is just the fraction of what the tv can do. Compared to SDR, this a big leap backwards. Best advice if you want a brighter HDR image is that you need to switch to SDR :D I can't believe my ears what just heard :D The whole industry is a joke. I have a 1500 nits rated HDR TV and with cranked up setting i can barely see HDR movies in a completly dark room. You can't pick the details and your eyes just fightning picking up what is going on. And they tell you, that you are the problem :D
@MrThomasTomThomas
@MrThomasTomThomas Жыл бұрын
So true Why do they not think about our screens? We sit in livingrooms not cinemas.
@mastersinr
@mastersinr Жыл бұрын
So add a new 4k tv financing plan along with your streaming subscriptions people! its your fault!
@MayorMcC666
@MayorMcC666 Жыл бұрын
this comment section is wild, just turn off the lights bro
@theaxer3751
@theaxer3751 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, now I can see the outline of some of the objects in screen like the director intended. I still hate it.
@509brown
@509brown Жыл бұрын
I went from a LG OLED 65" to a Samsung NeoLED 90B 75". Problem fixed.
@ticerqueira
@ticerqueira Жыл бұрын
So… you called an specialist just to dismiss everything he said
@MichaelBabich
@MichaelBabich Жыл бұрын
...or a show creators may adjust the lighting of the show in the way for it to be easily watchable on a regular LCD TV-not just on an expensive OLED TV.
@steven.events
@steven.events Жыл бұрын
The actors are paid by the minute for screen time.
@AaronFigFront
@AaronFigFront Жыл бұрын
HDTVTest has done a video on this as well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/emmWhIuZnNqqeLc
@jamesklusener
@jamesklusener Жыл бұрын
didn't Vox make this video a few weeks ago? mmm
@auro1986
@auro1986 Жыл бұрын
hbo hides bad acting and saves money on special effects
@bruintoo
@bruintoo Жыл бұрын
F that. I'll just watch on my OLED iPhone.
@AppIeOfficial
@AppIeOfficial 9 ай бұрын
bro can't afford an oled tv
@simontemplar404
@simontemplar404 Жыл бұрын
Top tip, do not watch insulting rubbish filmed in the dark.
@Lizzy_333
@Lizzy_333 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad they are, we shouldn’t be watching those things anyway 😂
@ZorroDaddy
@ZorroDaddy Жыл бұрын
I call it: Bad Production.
@zetacrucis681
@zetacrucis681 Жыл бұрын
Often it is the content. If the information is not in the data stream, no TV will be able to show it. Dark details are often lost to compression, including here for some of the examples shown in this video.
@joe10117
@joe10117 3 ай бұрын
MARCH 2024 it s all over the internet hollywood usibg too much contrast HDR george gracy to magnum PI star trek columbo little house ATEAM three tv s two samsungs one LG still no better hollywood added rinkles shadows it s awfull hard to enjoy series from the 60 sto 80 s.. the facial look looks awfull hard to enjoy retro tv even black white series yeesh...
@eduardoco789
@eduardoco789 Жыл бұрын
To be honest viewer has no time to set the right caliber for watching their tv.
@KAZAM707
@KAZAM707 Жыл бұрын
It's not a combination of those things. It's literally the colorists ridiculous choices, not considering the reality of TVs. Or they just wanted it to look black. Which upsets people. So... Ya
@potatomatop9326
@potatomatop9326 Жыл бұрын
This is why i only watch The Boys and Invincible.
@omar2886
@omar2886 Жыл бұрын
Way too much
@waydesworld108
@waydesworld108 Жыл бұрын
If you have a TV with a good contrast ratio/black level you'll be fine. Stop buying cheap TVs.
@Cap_management
@Cap_management Жыл бұрын
I have Panasonic plasma TV which was a top TV you could buy and still dark. And shouldn't creators of movies expect that most people on this planet doesn't have OLED TV while half of the people on the planet live on $2 a day? Will be movies for top 10% now or what?
@waydesworld108
@waydesworld108 Жыл бұрын
@@Cap_management Interesting point. For me I see it more as TV designs have gotten cheaper. I have a 65 inch top of the line set as well, I got it at a good price and it battles up with OLEDs simply because it's engineered better(120 individual backlit LEDs vs Strips or Single Panel). I have also owned a Panasonic UT-50 (Plasma) in the past. They are wicked dark, but the brightness is what you need/contrast.
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