Why are women in their twenties opting for assisted dying in the Netherlands?

Why are women in their twenties opting for assisted dying in the Netherlands? | LBC

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@Gabriel_H77 Ай бұрын

Why the loaded question? Physical suffering is not the only suffering.

@EdwardLindon Ай бұрын

1. Physical suffering typically has physical causes that can be externally evaluated. Mental suffering often does not. 2. Our cultures have a long-standing prejudice against and ineptness with mental health issues.

@lukemurray4950 Ай бұрын

So people with depression like myself should just use assisted dying instead of getting actual mental health treatment? This whole debate is just sick.

@gradientcube Ай бұрын

@@lukemurray4950virtue signalling and have no empathy.

@stevem7945 Ай бұрын

@@lukemurray4950 no one or implied said that. Don't make stuff up

@CCS-RRSR-SM Ай бұрын

@@lukemurray4950 it's not about moral or ethics, it's about whether there's a cure or the disease itself is tolerable or not, both of which can be tested with some volunteers

@kat2023. Ай бұрын

Chronic clinical untreatable depression and anxiety are like a slow death anyway. It's suffering that is unbearable for many people.

@daniellamcgee4251 Ай бұрын

Some people can recover from unbearable mental illness after years, such as myself. I attempted suicide several times. I appreciate the miracle of being alive now. That's the debate, really. It's difficult to make a life and death decision based on the unknown; not knowing if there is actually a way through it. With mental health, especially knowing that the brain is plastic. But that man saying 5 years isn't long, and wanting to put a limit on 28 years old as the youngest, is clueless. He should also spend time with children with agonising degenerative illnesses.

@lukemurray4950 Ай бұрын

This comment is just sick. I suffered with depression and anxiety for years before getting any better. The idea that I should of just unalived myself instead of getting treatment is beyond sick and honestly makes me feel depressed that people think like this.

@lukemurray4950 Ай бұрын

@@daniellamcgee4251I was exactly the same. The truth is, the mentally ill are treated like less than human and they just want us gone. This whole debate has made me feel more depressed than I have in a long time.

@loucam08 Ай бұрын

@@lukemurray4950 Some people (like myself) have permanent mental disorders that effect their ability to live and get any enjoyment out of it, not just temporary mental illness. Also no one would have forced you to go through with it if it were an option - it would be a heavily scrutinised choice that other people could take. The alternative is 200 UK train drivers a year having a bad day

@lukemurray4950 Ай бұрын

@loucam08 No the alternative is giving people the help they need. Mental disorders can be managed. I will suffer with depression and anxiety for the rest of my life but it is manageable now. It took over a decade to get to that place. Not only through mental health services but Church, training in BJJ. Each thing built me up to manage the next thing until I can now actually manage my mental illness. As someone who attempted suicide many times, death is never the answer!

@brianferguson7840 Ай бұрын

WHY should rich and healthy people in any government have the right to decide whether someone's life is or isn't bearable. My life, My Choice.

@EdwardLindon Ай бұрын

Um, yes, that is in fact the point.

@lukemurray4950 Ай бұрын

When someone is suicidal, their choice may not be what they actually want and with the right treatment, they will not feel that way. Just like me. It's beyond sick that rich and powerful people want this instead of giving people the help they need.

@neillaw Ай бұрын

@@lukemurray4950this assumes help is a solution, for many that is very much not the case You're right IF it's this, but many are not within this slice of the pie and this mindset is a sweeping control over people's own lives, everyone should have choice over their own life

@gazevans1038 Ай бұрын

@@lukemurray4950 And when the treatment cease to work ... what then?

@DawnAAA Ай бұрын

@@gazevans1038 not all who would want this are terminally ill. What are you on??

@alia7368 Ай бұрын

I have a friend with muscular dystrophy, age in their 40s, living in Oslo and has for years fought their country with their indecisive laws to give them adequate home aid services to simply WASH THEIR PERSON on a weekly basis. Sometimes having to go nine to ten days before an aide arrives to their home, while living in the power wheelchair contorted to their body, riddled in bed sore. Their country wants to institutionalize rather than allow some autonomy to live independently and Norwegian county municipal laws protect the aide workers and ambulance from practices of having to lift a patient (in my friends case, weighs less than 39 kilos) rather than the care of movement. In their despair, I living in the US have used the internet to call upon strangers from the heavy metal music community to go to their house to aid in BASIC HUMAN NEEDS because Norway fails to aid them. I feel powerless that my friend would rather end their suffering then live on with the two options facing their existence in their very powerful country.

@JIm-ib3tw Ай бұрын

I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. They deserve so much better care that will look after their basic needs while giving them the emotional caring and individual quality of life they need. How can it be that a country as rich as Norway ignore such people, bravely living with such a condition? These lifting rules are unnecessary too. People can be trained to lift safely, and lifting aids are available. Sometimes there are properly vetted students, who are interested in people, capable and who would appreciate accommodation and a small payment in return for a few hours caring for someone..

@jujutrini8412 Ай бұрын

The UK government won’t even let us have cannabis for pain relief. It would be crazy to let this happen and they haven’t even given people help for pain and mental health just because they are scared to allow psychedelic therapies and cannabis to be used!

@lukemurray4950 Ай бұрын

I'm not overly in favour of cannabis beyond REAL medical use but the idea that this assisted dying is even being considered instead of a wide range of treatment options is just sick.

@jujutrini8412 Ай бұрын

@ I know, right? There has been so much research and advancement in treatment for different kinds of mental anguish and pain meds and they have not done anything to ease people’s suffering. I remember Prince Harry talking about treatments he had for ptsd and I have heard other people having similar treatments- they’re not readily available on the NHS after all this time! Also things like microdosing on the compounds in magic mushrooms is being used for depression in some places. DMT, MDMA and other psychotropic type medications could help various conditions. I agree with the medical use of cannabis wholeheartedly as it has been shown to work! I don’t trust the government in this action because they show they don’t really care about our welfare by neglecting to give us medical treatments that work for pain and mental ill health.

@JohnColorado3811 Ай бұрын

Wow, that is so fundamentally wrong.

@Steven-e4n6s Ай бұрын

They won't legalise cannabis... Until they completely stitch it up so they "the already wealthy" run the industry... Not the common person

@AA-iy4gm Ай бұрын

That's what people said here in the US and tricked many into supporting them thinking they'll be able to legally use thc oil for their ailments but no, most people started smoking Marijuana and forcing those around them to endure the heavy, terrible smelling Marijuana second hand smoke...and making fun of people who aren't nose blind and users like them..

@azenkwed Ай бұрын

"Why is it the responsibility of the youth in Asia for killing someone else?" --- Ali G

@origamikami3486 Ай бұрын

This doesn’t make sense chief…..try again

@azenkwed Ай бұрын

@@origamikami3486 It's a leguminate question, innit?

@tjitse3916 Ай бұрын

@@origamikami3486do you have any idea who Ali G is? 😂

@hughtube5154 Ай бұрын

"But is dat not racialist?"

@suzyvegalicious5646 Ай бұрын

I believe that we have to be very careful when making decisions about assisted dying for depression and anxiety. I say that because for 10 years in my 50's I had severe clinical depression and nothing helped me to feel better. I was on so many pharmaceuticals and went to hospital a few times. It felt unbearable every day. One day I decided to ask for help from a very professional alternative practitioner. I put myself in his hands and bit by bit I got completely well again. I realized that the pharma drugs were just making things worse and also the feeling of being unsupported. Before I started seeing this therapist I also wanted to go overseas for assisted dying. So I realized that the complete change in therapies and the feeling of being cared for and supported was the reason that I got well and I was glad that I had not taken the other option. I had a son who wouldn't have been happy to lose his mother and I also didn't want to leave my beautiful and loyal dog alone either.

@DebbieScott-fg5wu Ай бұрын

You we're probably in pre menopause

@neptunes297 Ай бұрын

If you don't mind, who was the alternative practitioner you saw and what did they do that helped you?

@Svalinn-s1j Ай бұрын

Its still the right that any adult deserves. Just because you got better doesn't mean everyone does and it doesn't mean we should force people to go on

@sookibeulah9331 Ай бұрын

@@neptunes297in case the OP doesn’t reply, from what they say it sounds like they went to a functional health Dr or a naturopath.

@suzyvegalicious5646 Ай бұрын

@Svalinn-s1j did I say that? I said be careful, that's all.

@Agra586 Ай бұрын

People are going to end their own life if they deem it necessary. Having medical professionals assist just helps with that person pass more peacefully. No one has to stumble upon a gruesome scene and wonder what that person was thinking in their last moments

@lukemurray4950 Ай бұрын

If people are going to take their own life, they need help not to. Not assistance to do so. Opinions like these are stomach turning.

@gazevans1038 Ай бұрын

They will now be able to spend their final moments with their loved ones.

@daintydalmatian Ай бұрын

Nope, this has made it more common. They literally say it in the video.

@Jannette-mw7fg Ай бұрын

I used to think this way. But I never thought a person could have the RIGHT to demand assistence d. That would be demanding it from a doctor and that would be wrong! But since covid I do not trust the whole medical world and I am in great fear of what governement wil do. So now I am against it al togather. Let old people die by not giving them treatment (except pain reducing care!) but only if they want to die! And young people have to do it them selves....sorry....

@roamandread1451 4 күн бұрын

So it’s for the connivence of those who aren’t killed? The only difference between having it done medically and having it done on your own is that the people who want to get rid of you because you’re poor/disabled won’t have to pretend to be grieved with your death.

@Belihoney Ай бұрын

I completely support this and hope the UK is sensible about this. The problem is suffering and cynicism seems to be baked lnto the British personality so lets see.

@lukemurray4950 Ай бұрын

What is wrong with you? How can you support this? You have no respect for life and don't want to treat people as being worthy of life.

@Belihoney Ай бұрын

@ and forcing someone to live a life they don't want, full of pain mind you, is respectful?

@hjvhjfv6320 Ай бұрын

@@Belihoney We have lost all understanding of the meaning of suffering. It honestly horrifies me that people in their 20s are choosing to end their lives because of mental health problems. You can say they will be thoroughly checked out by psychiatrists, but psychiatrists do not challenge the beliefs of their patients.

@sirsnipermonkey 8 күн бұрын

@lukemurray4950they can have both options.

@ruthbarr3159 Ай бұрын

The rhetoric about disabled people is absolutely disgusting. We are all valued for our potential to make money and be independent,I'm worried people who can't work will be pressured to end their lives.

@zahraansari3710 Ай бұрын

It's happening in Canada already

@CobraMotivation-sy3qf Ай бұрын

That's socialism. Morons can't figure this out, but they think we will all live high on the hog on UBI.

@daintydalmatian Ай бұрын

Exactly I have already felt that pressure for years and it’s the only reason I feel that way. Because others want me to

@isabellerothman9782 Ай бұрын

@@zahraansari3710Can you explain more, please?

@rmercedes971 Ай бұрын

This is a personal choice. Nobody’s forcing anyone (disabled or otherwise) to do it, or even encouraging it.

@Europesehoornaar Ай бұрын

So, I am Dutch. I am suffering severe mental illness since childhood. I am suffering chronic physical pains since my pre teen years. This has been going on for decades. Yes, I am entitled to euthanasia, and I am against it. I hope I die soon. Why am I against it: it is very unethical to make another person responsible for your death, and more important: this law opens the door to new eugenetics and it is already happening, take a deep look at what is going on in Canada. It starts with people choosing for it "willingly", but it very soon morphs into unhealthy people being forced to die. We do not have to wait for this to see it happen, it is happening now.

@thisismetoday Ай бұрын

Many young women with mental health issues have been ignored, because women have been disregarded and dismissed in health care for decades (centuries). I don’t want to know how many women are running around with ADHD depression for example, who have been put on anti-depressives because they have never been diagnosed with ADHD, and the meds have never worked for them, ‘cause they are the wrong meds!! It must be tens of thousands!! And that’s just one example. Most drugs are developed for men, most medical trials are done based on men, most testing and reference points are based on men.

@KJellyBeanut Ай бұрын

Pretty sure this is me, add on physical symptoms that were ignored for years and I'm a mess. If things get worse, I want this to be an option and for anyone else suffering.

@samaraisnt Ай бұрын

100% spot on. The medical system has failed women, same as in every country and they decide to stop fighting because that’s part of the disease!

@jasonread2887 Ай бұрын

As a researcher, that is completely untrue. Most cl8nical medicines for depression and bipolar are tested on male AND female control groups. Also the real defecit is in male clinical mental pathologies. Women are actually far more likely to seek help and more open to treatment.

@elram2649 Ай бұрын

Unchecked social media definitely has a dark hand at these young ladies having committed suicide. I'm very sure of it.

@LoneWulf278 Ай бұрын

I absolutely agree.

@hollyrowlands6943 Ай бұрын

Young men too. I bet the stat is closer to 50/50 and of course we understand in some contexts the male suicide rate is as much at 80%. The difference is often male suicide goes unreported by the men themselves as men especially are not encouraged to discuss their mental health. In my opinion, young women are only brought up in this context as it is much easier to garner sympathy for "beautiful young women are killing themselves with assisted dying!!" to get people emotional and more likely to combat the legalisation of assisted dying, without considering the very logical reasons why it should be legal (with safeguards of course).

@Blossoming-o6r Ай бұрын

In what way?

@LoneWulf278 Ай бұрын

@@hollyrowlands6943 In the video, they discussed the exponential spike in its use among females. That’s the difference. It’s remained the same among males. So I definitely think it has something to do with an increase in social media use (AKA social contagion theory).

@zoranblackie5921 Ай бұрын

@@elram2649 Molly Russell story case in point, we need to have proper discussions around mental health as well as death and dying

@zoranblackie5921 Ай бұрын

I would want to avoid the suffering for me personally, but I can totally understand the potential for abuse - however I've been satisfied with the proposed UK safeguards, but the fear for many disabled people is real... the most important thing is that we need to have open discussion about death and dying

@Basic190 Ай бұрын

It’s not something you can just do. It can take months and is not something taken lightly.

@user-ff4zd7lh3q Ай бұрын

@@Basic190disabled non verbal people are at risk of hospitals deciding to end their life. We told that my son could be denied picu ie life support. Yes to patients choosing, no to drs deciding

@GregOrCreg Ай бұрын

Well said. I think the bill, as drafted, is necessary whilst also providing important safeguards, but I'd be very concerned about pushing the floodgates any further beyond this, should it be enacted. Individuals should have autonomous control over their life, particularly if they're suffering intense pain, but I'd be scared if we made it easier for governments and doctors to decide to end people's lives simply because they were disabled or mentally ill, and the state was 'unable' to properly address their needs.

@GregOrCreg Ай бұрын

@@Basic190 That doesn't change the legitimate fear some people have. The OP said they approve of the proposed law. Their fear, as is mine, is what happens in future if future governments decide to go beyond this law. That's NOT an argument for not supporting this bill; I *do* on balance support this bill and believe it should become law. But it is an argument to be cautious and vigilent about any future attempts to push the scope of assisted dying.

@paolagrando5079 Ай бұрын

That's why I encourage everybody to write their own "biological will". So one can decide for themselves. And it removes the family to take a difficult decision. If I end up in a vegetative state that the medical world knows that there isn't coming back from it I don't want to be kept alive.

@metalboostable Ай бұрын

Depression is not a death sentence.

@Samara-e2o Ай бұрын

It can be. And if you get the wrong label because the NHS is incompetent, not doing the right investigations .. as the cost money. Then suddenly people with severe autoimmune and brain diseases are diagnosed as depressed and given some gaslighting CBT, and then there label likely is their death sentence. Pity people are misdiagnosed so common. As then you get the wrong or no treatment and then you get to suffer decade in and out. With little or no help. And then those who want to offer nothing, feel like they can judge over others suffering. Not so strange people give up, life can be very cruel.

@Europesehoornaar Ай бұрын

Oh it will become a death sentence when we allow laws like this to grow.

@lougiacobbi725 Ай бұрын

Every person who states you shouldn't have the right to decide your end of life choices yourself believes that you are a commodity, not a person. Every. Single. One.

@SamWilkinsonn Ай бұрын

There have been survivors of sue icide that say they regretted their decision either as they were going through with it or afterwards. People that state they shouldn’t may love them and think they’re making the wrong decision or many other legitimate concerns.

@briankerrison8504 Ай бұрын

@@SamWilkinsonnwith this they have plenty of time.. plenty of discussions.. 🤔

@SamWilkinsonn Ай бұрын

@@briankerrison8504 true. I’m pro-euthanasia btw I just disagreed with the original commenter’s judgemental approach to some that understandably aren’t so sure about it.

@globalist1990 Ай бұрын

It's not being put on those terms. 1. Anyone can end their life regardless of the law, how do you penalise the dead? 2. It's about assisting and in what terms. 3. It's also about safeguarding against coercion and not make it a standard practice to avoid costs on the nhs.

@happy2learnandgrow Ай бұрын

'Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not on thine own understanding.'

@clearspira Ай бұрын

Which is why you have safeguards in place. It is that simple.

@JohnColorado3811 Ай бұрын

I volunteer with a riverside suicide prevention group, many times people who were prevented from taking their life have come back to thank us. I totally understand extreme mental and phisical pain, where suicide seems like the only way out, but suicide is rarely the sulution.

@Kodo738 Ай бұрын

The fact that people support this is crazy.

@atumka3972 Ай бұрын

Legalise cannabis first. Give it a try 🤷🏽‍♂️

@marjabeverwijk5630 Ай бұрын

It is not officially legal, but we have a tolerated policy in the Netherlands, and within the rules of personal use, you can buy a maximum of 5 grams of cannabis at a coffee shop from the age of 18.

@Zandoerlenaar Ай бұрын

This has no relation with assisted dying...

@donskidiva Ай бұрын

That won't depopulate.

@Flagrazi Ай бұрын

It's already legal there

@dudinho7348 Ай бұрын

7:45 how arrogant he is. One can go to jail, have children, pay raxes, go to war, but complete rights they need to wait until 28. Hiw disrespectful.

@Mr.Edd3905 Ай бұрын

Just allow it for everyone (like in Soylent Green). We could all just end the misery right now.

@jamesupton4996 Ай бұрын

And hunger.

@JohnColorado3811 Ай бұрын

Legalise cannabis for medical use, improve mental health services at he NHS, and maybe then and only then should we talk about assisted suicide.

@MissRG_THFC Ай бұрын

For physical health, I am all for assisted dying. But not for mental health issue. We as a country (and world) need to put more money, research, and time into mental health issues before allowing this here.

@dufud Ай бұрын

It should be allowed in the uk . Crazy to think it’s not .

@jujutrini8412 Ай бұрын

UK won’t even let us have cannabis or psychedelic microdosing for medical purposes in the main so it’s not surprising at all. The government in the UK doesn’t really care about the health of the population.

@anastasia10017 Ай бұрын

My mother suffered for many years from bone cancer which is a very painful cancer. It was a slow and painful death and to be honest, I dont think the doctors did much for her in the end. She was dying slowly, there was nothing to do anymore and they left her unsupported. I was by her bedside for months, unable to help her. When I was young, I had heard that nomadic Native American tribes would leave behind the old, sick and frail when they moved on. They just left the old and sick to starve , to die alone in the elements. I remember thinking that this was a cruel, terrible thing. But watching my mother die so slowly and painfully, I understood that it made a lot of sense. It was a form of euthanasia, to cut short the suffering. It was also a way of psychological protection for the rest of the tribe from watching someone die when there was nothing they could do. Had euthanasia been available to her, I think my mother would have chosen it.

@elram2649 Ай бұрын

Very interesting topic. 🤔 Congrats, LBC, for the coverage.👍

@polkadolt Ай бұрын

It’s not peaceful though isn’t it? Don’t your lungs fill with fluid so you drown. I thought that people can be aware of this but are paralysed so cannot respond to their distress & terror of the suffering. It can be torturous.

@gradientcube 24 күн бұрын

Where did you read this?

@Samara-e2o Ай бұрын

The Netherlands has a much better and more advanced health care system. Also, woman and also 'mentally ill' have a voice whereas here in the UK you struggle much more to get listened to and let alone receive competent treatment, so it hard to know if such a system can work in the UK without being missused. This obviously can happen anywhere, but more so when right things arent put in place.

@nataliagriffiths8626 Ай бұрын

I would like similar law in the UK to Belgium or Holland. I would like the option should I get cancer or Dementia. Or when I can not cope anymore with the Aspergers and Chronic Depression. It just would gives a sence of relief to have the option. I still believe that it should be an indervidual choice. I hope that those who want to keep living can get the help and have their choice too. There is always the worry of people being pressured though. Unfortunately there will always be crime and injustice in the world.

@alia7368 Ай бұрын

I do agree on going through a rigourous process to verbalizing between health professionals to receive the SERVICE of Assistance. But I want these health professionals to be vetted as well for the committees they serve. Economic value on a long-term projection should also be apart of the conversation. I understand these two countries are vastly different than here in the US. I was born with Spina Bifida Myelomeningocele and after birth, diagnosed with Hydrocephalus. As I approach my fifties shortly, I would want the law be on my side to allow such a decision. I live my life to the fullest, for sure, as I have survived this long, but I cut the cord as it were when I cannot comprehend such an acceptance to continue in a vegetative state (such as Terry Schiavo or Lesli Briggs.) and dependency on a healthcare system with such horrible circumstances. IE I live in America and disabled/elderly care is costly with long queues to receive assistance for care.

@Zandoerlenaar Ай бұрын

You should ignore that doc with his obvious religious motivations. I dont wanna live by your religious rules, dont force me to live with them. I want the freedom to use my own moral grounds when it comes to my own life, not the ones who believe in some fairytale

@globalist1990 Ай бұрын

What doctor are you talking about? The one suggesting a 28 years+ limit? He hardly sounds like a religious fanatic, specially if you compare him to the ones in the usa.

@sylviamontaez3889 Ай бұрын

since when does stating I oppose euthanasia on religious grounds somehow imposing something? U wouldn't say that if someone told you they supported it for religious reasons

@Europesehoornaar Ай бұрын

You should not lie about any person at all. You do that about this person only because you are annoyed that he does not agree with you. He explained what his reasons for his way of thinking are. It has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with what will be done with the law once it is there. To be more clear to you: that people who suffer too much to go on can stop their life, that is totally fine in theory. The problem lies in practise. These two can never be seen separately from eachother. You have to take a deep look into what is going on in Canada already for years now to understand it better. Nobody is judging any person who suffers greatly for wanting to end their life, neither for doing it. It is the power of the law in the wrong hands what makes some of us say the law should not be here, there or anywhere. Also, I HATE my country (it is The Netherlands) for a lot of reasons, but I have to admit: The Netherlands is *not* governed by religious beliefs.

@user-wn3uz9qn4t Ай бұрын

This is just my opinion. I believe that if people want to end their lives, then they should be able to with dignity and respect. Freedom of choice also means how we choose to die and when.

@Europesehoornaar Ай бұрын

So, then why make OTHERS responsible for it? That is quite contradictory with the "It is all up to *ME!, I!* should be in power over this!"-rhetoric. It should all be up to you? Then do it yourself.

@CBTCFT Ай бұрын

It's a pity people don't value the gift of life any more

@globalist1990 Ай бұрын

The only issue here, as i see it, is how to safeguard from coercion and political choices to cut funding to the nhs.

@wendysimpson6395 Ай бұрын

I have a living Will that allows me the choice to have a dignified exit on my terms should it be necessary. It's a huge relief.

@katmax7451 Ай бұрын

A bedouin traveller was in the desert with his Camel. A sandstorm is soon upon them. The Bedouin quickly puts up his tent and will be protected. As the storm whips up, the camel knocks on the tent and asks. Can I please put my ears in the tent that they may be protected. The sand is making it very uncomfortable!! Without hesitation the Bedouin with a big heart allows him to put his ears in the tent. No sooner had the camel received this protection when he asked if he could put his eyes in the tent that his eyes may be protected. Without a thought the Bedouin agrees. The camel just a short time later is now asking for his nose to be protected and possibly his shoulders. . After requesting for more and more protection the camel is now fully in the tent. The Bedouin traveller is now out in the sandstorm with no protection. He gave up his rights to shelter when he was tempted by the camel so many times that he gave up all rights to his tent and protection. If we think for one minute we are protecting our rights you are being deceived. Stop and think carefully before you open the flap of your tent. Where is this now leading! These are evil practices and we need to think carefully about what we are agreeing to. It may appear perfectly reasonable but the devil wears many disguises. He lulls people away, pacifies them into a false sense of security. We are falling in to a trap that we will never get out of. We are giving up our right to live! 😢

@inesfuchs-w8j Ай бұрын

Crazy , this world is crazy 😢

@onepartyroule 15 күн бұрын

Language falls apart when people lose insight. Suffering that people are bearing (evidently) becomes “unbearable”; people are standing in the midst of an experience they say they “cannot stand”. Our resistance to our pain is what causes our psychological suffering. When we can help each other and ourselves find ways to be in our pain - without our stories of suffering - we can allow for life. I saw a close family member slowly die from a lung disease. It was excruciatingly painful to watch. I felt impotent and if I could have taken away his pain I would have if he’d asked. He didn’t ask and I don’t think I had the right to prematurely end his life. We discovered things about each other and ourselves that were worth knowing, and of course, I wouldn’t wish it on any one. Life is painful. It’s an emotional, conflicted mess. No one is a burden or should ever be considered so. The appropriate response is love and support and respect for being, not avoidance, resistance and killing. This is not progress. It’s what a society does when it’s given up trying to help those in pain. Socialisation and identity development caused the mental illness. Love and dismantling of identity can cure it.

@sshafiq543 Ай бұрын

Its immoral.

@PrimitiveFuturologist_YTC Ай бұрын

Why target one province? What are the stats for the rest of the country?

@cinhofilms Ай бұрын

We have a responsibility to learn to heal in the midst of suffering as much as we can; we are to help each other and offer our help to the world regardless of pain as we try to heal ourselves; healing is natural.

@neillaw Ай бұрын

There is no greater freedom than choice over YOUR OWN life, people who think their choice over your life is correct is arrogant AF... Incredible entitlement and control by selfish people

@Europesehoornaar Ай бұрын

People who are against laws that make euthanasia possible for other reasons then terminal physical illnesses, are not of the opinion that you should live if you do not want to. They find it perfectly reasonable for you to end your life if you really seem that to be fit. They just oppose to you making OTHERS responsible for doing it FOR YOU, why? *Mainly* because it will make it beyond very easy for others than you to end your life under the guise of "euthanasia" for goals that are most in line with eugenetics. You need to take a deep look into what is happening in Canada for years already now to understand what these laws truly lead to.

@dudinho7348 Ай бұрын

Why is it considered to be a mental health "problem". That is a very disrespectful way of framing it.

@davidkeulen7006 Ай бұрын

because wanting to die is not a healthy state of being.

@afri-dancer9967 Ай бұрын

I am not sure if I would have the courage to make such a decision for myself.

@GregOrCreg Ай бұрын

But I hope you wouldn't expect anyone else to make it for you, because, ultimately, this is about giving autonomy to individuals, rather than letting anyone else determine whether you should live or die.

@paolagrando5079 Ай бұрын

Which is fine. You should decide not to do that.

@louisekibirige1167 Ай бұрын

It’s interesting that the two women interviewed on the street reference it being for elderly people. Anyone can get a terminal illness at any age, including children. Would they think it’s appropriate for a child to be euthanised in the same way as an elderly person if both are deemed to be suffering?

@walan31 Ай бұрын

Shouldn't we discuss having a robust health services and excellent mental health support and make sure that depression and anxiety caused by the cost of living are tackled first before we move on to assisted death! Men and women , be it young or old dont make decisions to off themselves for no reasons. We have a civic duty to make sure any help or support needed by struggling members of society is adequately addressed before allowing them an irreversible decision like that

@NyanyiC Ай бұрын

suffering hopelessly at 17😢

@danielcox9504 Ай бұрын

But what has it got to do with the youth in Asia? Its a bit racialist innit?

@Jason-ho8wr Ай бұрын

Wait, where's the part where they ask the government for permission first?!?!?

@GregOrCreg Ай бұрын

Of course, everyone should be free to determine their own life (including the right to take it) BUT anyone who is remotely relaxed or complacent about the idea of large numbers of young women choosing to end it all, is nothing but a virulent misogynist, or at least someone who is unwittingly upholding a misogynist agenda. Shame on you, if that's you.

@GregOrCreg Ай бұрын

@@VoornaamAchternaam-kr4vk I feel nothing but compassion for the women who have chosen this path, and I feel bad for their families, if they didn't do anything to precipitate their actions, but, ultimately, if women who are physically healthy and not terminally ill are choosing this option, society as a whole has FAILED them. I speak as someone who has suffered various mental illnesses since childhood. There is almost always another choice, but we have to help vulnerable people see and feel that.

@paolagrando5079 Ай бұрын

As much as I want the freedom to decide about myself and have the law that allows that for everyone, I want at the same time a research to be made why people of a specific group wants to do that and if it can be avoided changing things in the society.

@doodoo7207 Күн бұрын

Thats quit scary tbh

@Anne_Onymous Ай бұрын

Canada has gotten out of hand with it

@rkn2800 Ай бұрын

I agree, the option should be there no matter the age. There are valid reasons to opt out of this modern society, economic & educational disparity being high on the list.

@paulheydarian1281 Ай бұрын

This was a misinformation hit piece about *Youth in Asia.* 😉

@dudinho7348 Ай бұрын

Respectful to life choices.

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@carrie5490 Ай бұрын

So glad this bill passed. Hopefully it can be extended in time to give the option to others .

@robertcreighton4635 Ай бұрын

I had man flu last year ugh it was vile. If i get it again I'm flying out to Holland. No more suffering

@origamikami3486 Ай бұрын

Man flu?

@jokemmerling4875 Ай бұрын

Your ridiculous and you know it.

@paolagrando5079 Ай бұрын

Making fun on a serious matter. You must be great to be with.

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@Zzz-ff1np Ай бұрын

7:47 huh? Unbearable sufferring starts at 28 to him? Eww

@mariabrown6926 Ай бұрын

Who tf wants that live of this planet?

@thisgirlisoverit 11 күн бұрын

this is disgusting

@caroline24764 Ай бұрын

There's so much depression because we live in such an unfair world

@johnrussell3961 Ай бұрын

I never knew being dutch was that bad.

@origamikami3486 Ай бұрын

It’s not

@calcoable Ай бұрын

Are we normilising suicide now? Life is hard the new generations need to learn that....if you are old I understand maybe but a 20 year old? come on if they are suffering from deppresion then something needs to change with the society which the goverments dont want to deal with as Money and making money is the most important for them......

@monkeybudge Ай бұрын

The Dutch are not a consumerist society. Might be an issue in other countries, but not generally for the Dutch.

@Zandoerlenaar Ай бұрын

this isnt about "life is hard" nonsense. This is about mental illness, physical illness.

@calcoable Ай бұрын

@@Zandoerlenaar our grand parents lived harder lives and they didnt have this, more than finding an easy solution, we need to look at the source of the issue, I am reffering mostly to deppresion in youngsters just to make things clear

@renatopotato Ай бұрын

@@calcoable because no one committed suicide in that period. Come on. I agree we need to pay much more attention to the underlying issues, but people have been taking their own lives probably forever. All those people couldn't bear it anymore, whatever it was.

@GregOrCreg Ай бұрын

I agree with a lot of what you say, but this "life is hard the new generations need to learn that" rhetoric is unhelpful and lacking in the compassion needed to help people find value in their lives. Tough medicine isn't the answer. The answer is compassion and making depressed people feel they have a reason to live. What effect do you think judgement will have on them? It won't be positive.

@DollyMiddleton-ke1yp Ай бұрын

Young people that’s sad. Lack of sun 🌞 has an effect on depression. Been studies done in Alaska. They need more help with depression. Support groups, maybe? I have lived with chronic disease for decades. So I understand the chronic illness causing serious depression.

@shumonchoudhury9957 Ай бұрын

This is crazy

@jamesspeytebroodt7237 Ай бұрын

Theres plenty of uproar in the uk its now legal; But the people who are against it and suddenly ooo so pro life are acting rich n morally superior; also since when are u so hung up about living or dying card???!! card I'd play to folks who seem to aggressivly and vociferiously oppose it.