He was dead serious, seriously. I mean on a serious. The pastor was in his bag.... literally. That country does not allow homosexuality. You can be imprisoned just for having sexual relations like that. I think it's not fair. I don't condone homosexuality just as the bible says. But to imprison someone who's not violating anybody. In South Africa you have a better chance of marrying than being discriminated against. I'm sorry to write this long story.