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[@RockhillfarmYT]

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[@nahnotsomuch2292]

Meanwhile, all those people whining about the Chinese stuff are for sure buying cheap stuff off Amazon regularly and have no issues doing that.

[@windzer]

unfortunately not much choice these days. the tree huggers in the usa have put so many restrictions on wat you can do in the states it all gets farmed out to other countries that only care about money meaning china

[@hunterhaon4265]

I have never bought a vehicle off Amazon bud your buying the lowest end things and you get what you pay for

[@tZydeco]

​@@hunterhaon4265 - the Chinese make the worst of stuff. The Chinese make the best of stuff. You get what you pay for.

[@chiefkyle1776]

100% guarantee they are buy the $10 phone case from China instead of the $60 phone case that claims to be American made.

[@DestDroid]

Plenty of American brands have abandoned Americans, idk why we shouldn't abandon them.

[@Parents_of_Twins]

Precisely. They were making plenty of money making their products here and then they shifted their production overseas not to lower costs but so they could pay their corporate overseers more money.

[@matthewbennett4496]

You shouldn’t have to explain yourself. Keep doing your thing man.

[@swashington942]

He doesn't have to. He wants to.

[@mayshack]

He starts out the video being completely transparent about there being a financial benefit to getting/promoting a free machine. There is also a financial benefit to respond to a contentious topic-- he will get lots of views and "engagement" in the comments. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, just that there are other, secondary motives.

[@mkeating5111]

@@swashington942of course he wants to, it’s his job You probably want to be good at your job too

[@maxupnorth]

The fact of the matter is a lot of folks can't afford name brand machinery, especially when not using it to make money. This influx of Chinese machines has opened the door for a lot of people. Thank you for showing them off.

[@lv7603]

Even used equipment became somewhat out of reach.

[@firsttimefarmer]

My cousin bought a 1-ton Chinese excavator. Gas engine and one-foot bucket. it does what he needs and only costs 5K

[@troyb.4101]

So did I I have 30 hours on it now, works good. No problems.

[@jacklabloom635]

Competition is the only thing that brings down prices. Manufacturers will charge as much as they can get away with, independent of their manufacturing costs. The only incentive to reduce prices is competition.

[@swere1240]

and labor prices

[@exiteternium]

​@@swere1240sorry but proper competition drives pricing, think about it, Henry Ford paid the highest wage while making an affordable automobile, he later was a douche but it still blows the argument that labor is the driving factor out of the water. Before competition in product quality, along with competition in labor benefits drove high wages with lower cost quality good, now we have crap crap and more crap with varying prices based on the name brand and customer loyalty to it and warranty offered. The pride aspect is gone, the competition aspect is gone cause secret meetings between competitors to set pricing occur in violation of anti trust laws and our gov does nothing about it.

[@Skinnymoose]

Tarrifs will reduce competition further.

[@troyb.4101]

Agreed!

[@mkeating5111]

Competition is one factor but there are many others including labor costs, import/export taxes and other costs, and regulatory burdens

[@bittercreekscvs]

I work for a Cat dealer. Most of our stuff comes from China.

[@LarsDcCase]

Yes. China has a factory that makes Caterpillar engines.

[@TripleTAcres]

I don’t know how anyone could argue against your points. It makes logical sense. Great video Brock!

[@slikevents]

None of these are 100% american made. Almost all these parts coming from overseas.

[@DonnieDarko727]

Shhhhh

[@troyb.4101]

I think your buying the same parts with a different paint job. Most the engines are the same.

[@ajpsawmill4314]

I've been using a Chinese dongfeng 45hp 4x4 tractor I bought new 1999, I've only replaced the battery, truthfully it out pulls my 45 horse Kubota

[@KenKaiser]

I think you're making all very good points. Something that would be interesting to focus on, is how much does the Chinese government subsidize Chinese manufacturers. Or, even possibly own the company themselves, with most of the motivation to be the drive everyone out of the market so no one is left except them. If they do drive everyone out of the market, then would they increase their prices like John Deere and other domestic manufacturers have done? Our country has antitrust laws safeguarding against this, but I don't think they work very well, because all the major manufacturers price their equipment pretty closely, and pretty high... So in the long run that may not make any difference but it would be interesting to explore this idea.

[@stump-bossBIll]

I have my own business, I do lots of land clearing, some light excavation and the likes. I'm absolutely "In the market" for a mini-excavator. I consider Brock's content along with several others, as both informative and entertaining. Maybe this will evolve into testing some of the better Chineesium machines head to head. Then the best of those against the best of USA (in theory) machines after testing those head to head. But wherever it goes, is all up to Brock, because it's his channel, and he does a nice job keeping most of us interested most of the time. All keyboard warriors hating on Brock for whatever reason, need to go start their own channel. Or maybe some did and they are pissed nobody watches them, so they take their frustrations out on others. That's pretty sad folks. Brock - Take that green thing up to Rock Hill and pour the coals to it, let's see what it can do brother!!!! 👍👍👍

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Thanks for the encouragement. I’m not going to turn my whole channel into reviewing Chinese equipment, but there will be quite a few more videos on the topic Not to mention just tons of hours using this machine that’s already here

[@lwwarren]

After seeing what it was going to cost to rent equipment to dig my garage foundation unrealized I could buy a slightly smaller machine and do it myself and have a useable piece of equipment in my garage after the job was done. I now have a 2.5ton mini excavator and a mini-skid steer for less than renting would have cost me. Both my machines can be almost completely rebuilt with common parts from Amazon. I have a welder and a grinder so I can fix just about anything not available on Amazon. I've since used them to dig new irrigation lines, add another line to my septic, dig the foundations for my 36 panels ground mount solar array, bury the 2" conduit for the solar panels back to my inverter. There's basically no job on my property that I can't do on my own now. After welding a hook to the bucket I used it as a crane to lift my 380lb battery arrays out of their packing crate and pallets.

[@wildbill23c]

That's why I bought a sub-compact tractor and some implements....for what the rental yard wanted to charge to rent a tractor, with a loader, and a roto-tiller for a few hours I could make a few months worth of payments....now I have a tractor, some implements, and a loader that I can use whenever I want, not when a rental yard says I can. I didn't buy a no-name tractor but it'll be the one and only tractor that I'll ever need for my property.

[@earlholmes9740]

I appreciate different points of view on major purchases. You do a great job in your content.

[@treeamigo8447]

The same people who complain about a Chinese machine has a house full of Chinese goods from big retailers. Why? Because the price is right.

[@tonymcnatt5077]

We have lost the majority of manufacturing to the rest of the world. Like you said, government regulations and taxes and corporate greed. The other is the greed of the employees. This will get me some pushback. Labor Unions are a issue now in America. They had their time and place when they were needed, but now not so much. Every strike, every pay increase hurts the employer, consumer, and the employee. The one that walks away with fat pockets are the Union leaders. Yes the employee got a raise but what they are producing just went up for everyone. For those that didn't get that nice pay raise just got hurt from the raise that Union worker just got. Labor is the driving force behind all of this. We are making more but have lost alot over the years. Companies use to have profit sharing and good insurance, heck even had dinners a few times a year to say thank you. Now its all about how much can I make for little work. We all cant be the Chief.

[@georgezhou7961]

Morning! I love all your video. There is market for those “ cheap” mini excavators. Not everyone has 50k laying around for a piece of equipment. Everyone talking shit about it all the time. All my machine are solid and customer loves it

[@wildbill23c]

The $50k machine will do the job, but it'll eventually break down like every other machine from wear and tear, or damage/broken parts....people get so wrapped around a brand name/color that they cannot see past it and realize these other machines for less money will do the same work, for far less money, and still break down over time, and can still be fixed, a lot of these no-name machines share parts across other brands, and parts can be had for a lot cheaper and just as quick because of the world wide web.

[@hooligan9693]

After watching you for several years I feel I can count on your analysis. You are honest in your reviews and I can count on being better informed after watching your content. I never read the reviews of your videos because I know the value I am getting and could care less what anyone else thinks.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

I appreciate the vote of confidence. When only the complainers comment I start to feel bad. To be fair, I’ve got a ton of awesome viewers who are always positive with their replies

[@Cowboy_Steve]

Howdy Brock! You made some valid points. The whole China thing is so complicated. The bottom line is - if it is financially feasible I try to buy American when I can. If I can't, I try to buy from any overseas company but Chinese. If I can't, then I bite the bullet. One of the popular complaints about tariffs is the cost is passed to the consumer. Well yes and no. The manufacturer will eat a percentage of that tariff based on how much it affects their competitiveness. If a 10% tariff pushes their price 9% over the competition, then they will eat that 10% to keep their market share. If the situation warranted it, I would probably buy one of these imports. Most of the components are going to already be mass produced and used in lots of other machines. A Yanmar engine is a Yanmar engine. Parts will always be available. Components of the hydraulic system are going to be made with readily available easy to get parts - that is how they can sell the overall unit so cheap. I can't see there being many proprietary components... hell the Chinese tend to steal and copy half the known world already, so you might be surprised what will fit lol. Where tariffs get passed on to the consumer is on machines like these, where they are already so much cheaper than the competition, they can increase the price and still be significantly cheaper. Another is on products that use components from overseas but is included in an otherwise domestically assembled product. Ugh... this is too much thinking for a Monday morning... well done and stay the course 🤠

[@JohnWinsemius]

Most of your electronics (tv,phones ) now how about all the battery tools out there. Name brands milwakee, snap on some dewault roybi just to name a few. How about those high prince shoes nakki, addis, and name brand clothes haines, friute of the loom

[@robertwarren7428]

If I owned a construction company that used the heck out of the equipment, I would only be looking at the brand names due to track record, dealer network, ease of getting parts, and warranty. As a homeowner, I don't have that same budget and I'm certainly not going to be running it as hard. That makes these lower priced units at least a consideration. Several of these cheaper brands now have dealer networks where I can go for warranty and parts. Of course, as soon as you have that available, the price goes up, so these are going to be the higher end of the low-cost machines.

[@charlesmartin8047]

For me, if I needed a mini excavator, I would rent one. However, you want to buy one. I applaud your efforts and willingness to share what you learn. You are in an enviable position to try this equipment before you buy and there's nothing wrong with it.

[@rockyroad5035]

Some good points Brock. In addition to things like warranty, dealer support, parts availability, etc., I would also throw into the mix the differences in equipment operating experience. Yeah, they will both dig a hole, but my experience with Chinese machines and machines like Kubota is like comparing a Lexus to a Yugo ..... they might both get you from point A to point B (if the Yugo is still running), but the drive in the Yugo is brutal while the Lexus is silky smooth and satisfying. The value of that difference isn't zero.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

It’s a good point. I’ve only dug with this one for 10 minutes. But that’s going to change very quickly

[@OurLifeInTrees]

Love it man. I am getting the same hate on my videos. Great job.

[@jerryhammack1318]

Keep up the great work! Competition brings down prices for the consumer!

[@OurLifeInTrees]

@ that would be awesome!

[@georgezhou7961]

@@OurLifeInTrees You the best! Love all your video 👌

[@TheHarlanProject]

Brock and Greg…you guys are awesome, and truthful. Keep up the great videos. Do I want an American made machine from the dealership 15 minutes from my house? YES!! Of course I do but I can’t afford that machine. So as I look at my shovel and feel the pain in my back (not 18 anymore) and my time saved it’s an easy decision. So far, I am very happy with my Chinese skid steer that didn’t break the bank. My kids can still eat this week.

[@OurLifeInTrees]

@@georgezhou7961 thank you sir.

[@hoyt1198]

Its all about price point and quality. For someone just using the equipment around their place the full size skid steer and the mini ex 1 under what you are testing would be awesome to run around the property.

[@genewilliams7497]

Great content as always!! Perfect delivery in all ways!! Everyone is entitled to their opinion and choice…. That’s why USA is the greatest country on the planet! That said when folks become disrespectful in their comments that’s when they lose their entire argument PERIOD. Brock you always speak truth and real life. Keep on throwing strikes brother. For me your channel is super educational for what’s available equipment wise out there and we all need to make up our own minds if it for me or not. You provide a great service to us all to be able to view machinery without having to travel to do so. Keep up the great work sir!! THANK YOU 👍👍

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Thanks

[@richardwest-q8w]

Long Long ago I was a child. Fish hooks were very important, and I valued each and every single fish hook. American fish hooks cost four times more than Asian fish hooks. American fish hooks were virtually never bent by a fish. Asian fish hooks were frequently straightened by fish. I always preferred American fish hooks, but on occasion I had to buy Asian fish hooks. My choice was clear. I was going to fish. When I could not afford Asian fish hooks, I tried to make my own fish hooks. Of course, Heavy Equipment is much more complicated than a fish hook. Nevertheless, in my opinion, the analogy of fish hooks and Heavy equipment helps to clarify this situation.

[@midmojimmy]

I would agree with your analogy in a strictly commercial environment. If I owned a construction company I would buy the big name brands. For occasional use around a homestead, the Chinese machines will perform just fine.

[@dboucher26]

If everyone exclusively buys American brands, companies may increase their prices due to the surge in demand. We don’t owe them our loyalty, especially when they charge excessively high prices.

[@circuitbreaker9001]

I had a 28hp Chinese tractor for 16 years (jinma) It had a backhoe and chipper with a Canadian snow blower 6 ft. It had no ECM . It was easy to work on like a 8N Ford Tractor. It did every thing I asked it to do. The finish was not as good as Kubota but the metal was very heavy. A Chinese forum helped me do any repairs if I needed. And cross over filters etc. to Canadian parts. My only issue was if I needed a part I had to order from Texas. I sold it 6 years ago because I needed a cab model. I never regretted buying it. When I sold it I got 80% of what I paid for it.

[@paularthurwebb7212]

My admiration and respect to Brock. Good job speaking about things that affect us who have to scrounge around just to be self-reliant.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

For most of us, an $8000 excavator is stretching the budget but maybe possible. $80,000 machine means I’m just going to rent Thanks for the kind words

[@arseetoo]

I gave you a thumbs-up. I’d give a heart if I could. My wife and I love your honesty and how “real” and reasoned you are. Keep up the awesome work!!!

[@kelleysimonds5945]

If you want to buy an expensive American made machine, that's great, so do I. If you can do that and still make your truck payment keep it fueled and pay for maintenance and repairs, make your house payment, buy clothes for the family and repair and replace household items. GREAT! I cannot and I also cannot go without one of these machines.

[@lawman5511]

These days buying a new piece of equipment is a crap shoot, no matter where it’s made.

[@rtundlt1]

I had a cheap no name chiinese excavator and it worked ok. Then i upgraded to a "Groundhog" branded 1.5 ton excavator with a nice pump and Kubota 20 hp diesel and it as a very nice machiine and very capable. If I only needed one for occasional use or for only smaller jobs, such as putting in drains, landscaping etc., it would be perfect.

[@Glory-to-God.]

Walmart insists on paying only $1.75 to a manufacturer in china for a non stick fry pan, so walmart can make a profit of about $9.00 when the junk fry pan is sold at $ 10.97. American consumers expect the chinese manufacturer to spend at least 4 dollars to make each of these fry pans for better quality, that means the manufacturer should act as a charity and be happy to lose $ 2.25 for each fry pan they make. Thats American mentality. What can American manufacturers make with $ 1.75? 😂

[@Jacktan9203]

American GREED not dream 😅😅

[@RockhillfarmYT]

And the American company can’t even make it for the $4 rather. They have $4 in ridiculous overhead and then they want to make huge profits.

[@tacoman3331]

This was very well said and a great perspective. This is also a great reminder of all things to consider. Thank you!

[@59rammer]

There is a market for all levels of qualities and features, you decide on the planned usage and utility these offer .

[@bearupfarm1818]

People don’t understand some people can’t afford an American made product. Some people don’t have money.

[@_droid]

I really enjoy getting something that's like 75% good for less than 50% the price. Then I can go in and make it really good by using my own labor and skill. There are certain things I just can't do like make huge castings, forging, etc. With that said, those cheap products are only cheap because of cheap/free labor (also known by a word I'm not allowed to write). Though any system can be made more efficient by someone who knows what they are doing so it's not all just because of labor costs.

[@sheaton954]

Thanks for the great content!

[@saintb6969]

The sad truth is we as Americans have over priced ourselves, this is due in part to greed, the abuse of unions, and the increasing cost of living due to inflation. I would much rather buy American, but I simply cannot afford it anymore, and now days a lot of what you get from “Made in America” is just as bad of junk as the made in China stuff, just cost you more. Bring manufacturing back to the US, keep the prices low, elect politicians that don’t just care about their pockets thus causing inflation and perhaps bring quality and then I will buy more American made products.

[@rockystanaitis2908]

If you are going to copy a skid steer the one to copy is the Tacheuchi TL series

[@xephael3485]

Video needs a lot more attention... Average citizen has been hurt for decades over the 25% Chicken tax.

[@JesseBevil]

Price is a major factor that anyone interested in using expensive equipment will definitely take into consideration when making a purchase. It's reasonable to show the capabilities of that equipment and you can use that information to compare it to currently available equipment and their really high prices. I recently (within the last 9 months or so) purchased a USED Takeuchi TB240. This is a Japanese company. But is a very common brand in the US. They are priced comparably to the other brands. Bobcat is Korean company. Kubota is a Japanese company. John Deere is a US company. Caterpillar is a US Company. JCB is a British company. Komatsu is a Japanese company. Kobelco is a Japanese company. (headquarters in Netherlands) Hitachi is a Japanese company. Volvo is a Swedish company. Sany is a Chinese company. Case is a US company. Hyundai is a Japanese company. Kato is a Japanese company. Liebherr is a German company. Link-Belt is a US Company, but a subsidiary of a Japanese company (Sumitomo Heavy Industries). XCMG is a Chinese company. So you can only buy John Deere, Case, and Caterpillar or you hate our country?? Look, you buy the equipment that makes sense for you. It would be based on both financial, reliability, capability, and features. United Rentals (where I bought my used Takeuchi TB240) is a United States company. They buy a very large amount of equipment all over the United States and best I can tell they primarily have Takeuchi equipment. I'm willing to bet they as a business need to buy equipment that is reliable, serviceable, capable, and has the features that customers want. With that said, you have companies like John Deere have issues like the desire to keep the worker from working on their own equipment. Overpriced repairs due to the cost of parts and labor. They also don't make their machines with only US manufactured parts. Even United Rentals recently quoted me $8,200 to replace bushings, seals, and pins for the used excavator they sold me. Mind you I only paid $30,000 for the machine. So nearly 1/3rd the cost of the machine to replace wear items that are meant to be replaced. That quote came with 30 hours of labor which is highly excessive. Either way, equipment is expensive, and as a by product paying someone to use their equipment to do work for you is expensive. Which drives up the cost of construction, which increases the costs of homes/road repair/land clearing/drainage/etc. It'll affect everything from the cost of a piece of property to the cost of taxes as that equipment used by the cities/counties need to be paid for. Anyone complaining about promoting cheaper products should consider starting their own business and making their own cheap equipment for mass production. We clearly don't have enough reasonably built and priced US equipment companies.

[@Skinnymoose]

Good comment

[@nelsonsridge]

I don’t know why people are throwing shade. You’ve quite objective about the whole topic, and it’s appreciated!

[@jefferykeeper9034]

I was buying Sanp-no tools, But after I had to file bankruptcy they walked away from me and I paid them in full before I filed.

[@mikesorg6746]

I think people have to realize there are levels to things. For the average homeowner who wants to maintain their property and occasionally do small odd jobs for people the Chinese machines have their place. The company doing hundreds of thousands if not millions each year can’t rely on cheap Chinese equipment.

[@cyumadbrosummit3534]

I just bought a Kymron 4 ton mini excavator. It’s got a Kubota motor and an Eaton pump. So far it’s doing everything my Takeuchi does except the thumb is on a pedal instead of a button on the stick.

[@hpw59]

you mind sharing the price you paid?

[@rodbagley1686]

And John Deere sources there products from a variety of places

[@Evanelkgrove]

You made fair points. Sorry you got beat up. A reasonable person must agree with what you say because you’re saying reasonable things. One of the things overlooked in this argument is that “greed is universal”. The world economy is based on greed and slavery. Selfish people take advantage of paying impoverished people as little as they can “get away with” legally. Thats why slavery existed in this country at one time, and still exists throughout the world. Even in China, corporate greed is paramount. Things are more expensive here because there are “minimum rights” in the USA. This is not true in other places. The cheap things we buy are at the cost of impoverished people working for a couple dollars a day in other countries. But we still want the things we want so we buy cheap things. This is a different kind of greed. You’re right, we all have budgets and we only have a certain amount of money to spend. If things were close in price, most of us would only buy American. But things are not close in price. We can only afford what we can afford.

[@Gzus]

As a homeowner and the sole provider for my family, I’m MUCH more likely to pick up one of those $8K Chinese mini excavators than buying a USA-made one for >4X the price. At the end of the day, it’s my responsibility to make my dollar stretch further so that my family has more.

[@chrischoin7402]

US made $35 per hour laborer China made $5 per hour laborer

[@1956arc]

You’re absolutely correct!

[@jtsokiehobbyandadventures6666]

What i have found out about the complain people are only buying john deer, bob cat, and all of the other more expensive ones. Well my answer is i cant afford any of them. Im not doing a business. Im not being paid from youtube. I have a agt nt18k paid 9000. It is a 3000 pound machine. Just looked at a 17 john deer it was 3800 pound and 33,000. And all these people complaining be sure dont go to harbor freight

[@swere1240]

i think what most people have an issue with chinese products is all company's arent just an individual company its the chinese goverment because they own every buisness and there all ran by the PRC. dont worry about what people are saying man there all just looking for reason's to complain about stuff because there not happy so nobody else can be happy on there watch. and your right about differnt not all chinese stuff is built equally. im sure the stuff they build for there market is much better. i mean people used to think the type 56 chinese ak-47s were cheap but there one of the best ones ever built.

[@toddcaskey9984]

I like all your videos , tell the excavator people that u want to do a giveaway 🤪

[@Skinnymoose]

I'm to the point where pretty much all I can afford is cheap Chinese junk.

[@EdsWeekendAdventures]

Wow, you said a lot. I think for most of us it's a choice between a shovel and a Chinese mini ex. I am getting too old for the shovel.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Exactly. For most people the little $8000 machine is stretching the budget to begin with. The idea of a $30,000 or $80,000 machine is just not happening.

[@S_neenan]

My only question is when can I buy one. The only reason I still have stumps in my pasture is because I can't justify a name brand machine.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

I’m guessing a month. Maybe a little more. I pinned a comment with information where you can sign up to get notified when they are available.

[@RobertBrothersJr-dc7nr]

Very well spoken Brock. I really enjoyed listening to your opinion. Thanks for sharing.

[@johanncover1988]

Some time you want a cheap equipment that you will occasionally uses and thats that.

[@tfudge210]

This is sounding a lot like how Kymron started. They started in Oklahoma also but now they have a dealer network. They started with the small mini excavators then expanded to medium and large mini-ex’s then they made skid steers and cranes. They are Chinese excavators upgraded to higher specs and they have 2-3yr warranties. Google search or KZbin search them they seem good.

[@jd1029]

I appreciate your insight and all input you provide. Thanks for putting this information together. You are spot on with you view of the system. I used to work in manufacturing until put out of work by offshore and DEI.

[@warrenporter302]

same thing that happened to the auto industry in the eighties unions!!

[@michaelhess4825]

Regulation is the only way to make corporate America actually provide affordable healthcare, and equal pay. Until that happens, the MOST PRODUCTIVE EMPLOYEES IN THE WORLD, will never be treated properly. Everyone always talks about "well they had a drop in profit so wages will fall" that's not how American's should look at this. The employer ALWAYS has the option of reducing profit to keep their employees at a respectful pay range. That's an option never taken. You can blame the stock market, competition, neive employees (ding ding ding), but nobody ever blames the owners/boards of directors, that actually make this choice. Until us individual workers stand up for our worth, we'll continue to be railroaded. Both to our employers, and the politicians that can make these changes.

[@David-fv7zg]

I don’t make any money on the machines I use. I’m a big supporter of American products, but you hit the nail on the head, we all have a price where loyalty to American products fails. If I’m not making any money, I have no choice but to buy the Chinese products at a 2:1 ratio on price.

[@randominternetvideos7104]

MACHINES ARE TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE! Basically all the parts are interchangeable anyways. No company makes all their own parts and they buy other companies parts to build theirs. If I can get a machine for less, why not.

[@mike_holdread]

We're all from the same planet.

[@alphonsotate2982]

Great job you explained it right good job

[@danbelden7354]

Good points. Also John Deere was as American as it comes, but now it’s moving manufacturing to Mexico and the prices will remain the same. I love my Deere don’t get me wrong, but how many actual US companies are completely all US anymore.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

I have spent so much money on John Deere equipment. They are the most expensive machine you can buy and they’re moving Manufacturing out of the country. You can do one or you can do the other, but you lose me when you do both

[@neilkratzer3182]

Well as a business owner this is how i approach it. Is it a product or tool I'm going to rely on or not? I bought many tools that i use only a couple of times a year. I'm not spending 5 or 6 times the amount for something that is going to sit in the corner. Examples i have used core drills, welders, and etc. I know several people that have ties to chinese manufacturers directly. They have told me just like here you can get what you pay for. They have cheap quality manufacturers and they can range to really high end. The issue with the high end from china is expensive to I have some experience using their high end dedicated manufacturer and you get what you pay unfortunately the US market didn't even have anything available.

[@William-farm]

Preach on brother. 👍

[@terrylutke]

Partly what's driving the shocking high prices of big-brand manufactured goods is incorporation of techie & un-demanded features. A 2025 car/pickup relies on about a mile of wiring, VS 150ft of wire in 1948.

[@Laserguy2009]

Exactly!!! You would think if the Chinese can build a nice excavator for $5000, we could make one ourselves for $4000 even better!!!! Not $40000. We can mass produce parts too!!!

[@RockhillfarmYT]

It’s possible. It would take a lot of change. Hopefully we see it happen but I doubt it.

[@lv7603]

At the end of the day corporations will do what’s best for the investor and maximize value if they can sell it for the max they will do it. They serve the investor not the consumer, sounds harsh but it’s the truth.

[@Jrsclassics]

Sany gives a 5 year 5000 hour warranty and i hear they are excellent machines. They also come to you within 150 miles to fix your machine at no charge.

[@jerryhammack1318]

Keep up the great work! Competition brings down the cost for the consumer! 😂❤! Love the content and honesty! Big name companies need to get back to reality to be worth the consumers dollar amount in the market. Overinflation of a product because of the name is ridiculous!

[@patricksanderson2058]

Besides my tractor, I've always bought used brand name equipment and expected to fix it. I'm a former mechanic which helps, but these days the kids keep me out of the shop. Either way, being able to talk about something without the politics of it is rare and I wouldn't t want to take the exposure you are willing to. Have you thought about taking the same kind of dives into the used market? Talking to mechanics and salesmen about which models had less problems than others? It all breaks eventually.

[@douellette7960]

Of course you had lots of hate on your last video. China! But thanks for offering a nuanced take on the decision making process. It's more comfortable for many to live in a black and white world. We can always broaden our perspective.

[@donaldmontgomery8169]

Brock, you are doing good, don’t let the negative comments get under your skin.

[@mhelsher]

Appreciate your candor! I'm old enough to remember people complaining about Japanese stuff in the 80s. I bought a Datsun (now Nissan) F10 in 1979 because Chevy Vega's were dropping dead for the average driver (motorheads are a different breed) at around 50,000 miles. Same with the Ford Pintos (which were known to explode). Long story short, most American cars of the 70s had planned obsolescence built in. Enter Toyota and Honda. Enough said. I bought a new RK 25 tractor (basically a TYM T 25) because I liked the guys at our local RK store, and also because it was half the price of green and orange. To be frank, I'm not a fan of all the Woke BS that overwhelmed our government and media in the last 10 or so years (which has roots all the way back to the earliest communist writings). But now that the political current in DC has flipped, I see the same sort of BS coming out of the side I switched to because of the insanity of the Left. "One-and-only-right-wayism" is the same horse of a different color. That's my incredible earned opinion. But unlike the know-it-alls, I could be wrong. Thanks for the great channel! You made my day!

[@jacklabloom635]

You explained it quite well. This video is an excellent example of using critical thinking skills to make decisions on buying equipment.

[@quazy1328]

It is telling when you get a brand new US brand machine and the screen is still in Chinese because it was sent straight to the end user without getting state side PDI.

[@alphonsotate2982]

The China machines are more basic and easy to fix because they use a lot of standard available parts

[@MrPaulis47]

You make great points, and all of it is very true. And also all Americans need to remember that other countries also makes reliable equipment because they also do the the same work as we do in America. I'm NOT saying that to make anyone mad. But we are not the only people on earth. I always try to buy American, but like you there comes a point when you say I just simply can't afford that, whatever that may be.

[@dtrain3319]

Great video. I will buy what I can afford. Your videos are great.

[@lttl858]

A lot of word salad and most of it is just common sense......Unlike some of the people making a living with youtube videos, you make a point in coming clean on what is really going on. I could type for an hour on my take, but I'm not getting paid for an opinion.👍

[@HarryVonhoene]

I usually only buy Chinese tools if I am only going to use it myself. If I am making my living with that tool, I will buy the best one for the value.

[@HarryVonhoene]

I would be interested in your opinion on the small excavator. I would use it to dig some footers to prepare a slab an a small plumbing run and a septic tank? After my main projects I would probably sell it or rent it out if that process is not too complicated.

[@jwg9338]

If Case/CAT/Deere made machines that actually didn't require intense servicing and repairs, given their retail prices, there wouldn't be a market for these Chinese machines. It's unacceptable that Deere makes a 3 ton wheel loader that costs 180K new, and breaks down so regularly it's a running joke. If I'm going to spend "X" amount on repairs anyways, why spend four times the price on the machine? If you look at repair components for these imported machines, you'll see they are very similar price-wise to those of the big-name brands.

[@georgehofgren6123]

Yep, the top manufacturers Do breakdown. That's because they are pushing Engineering that no one has even Tried before. And that makes more dollars for operators. And they CAN take risks with cutting edge machinery because THEY HAVE THE DEALER SERVICE SUPPORT TO FIX THEM AND IDENTIFY THE BUGS. You're try to say Innovation is a sign of unreliability on a video meant to sell Pure Garbage. Think about moving out of a 1st world country. Or stick to a shovel ~

[@Parents_of_Twins]

If I was looking at something that I was planning on using for a business I would be looking at something different however I'm looking for something to do some work around the house and I can justify spending 3 times the money on something that will probably not see more than 50-60 hours a year.

[@exiteternium]

While i personally dont like chinese products for a few reasons, (lack of quality in products, lack of loval support for maintenance or issues, massive language barriers) i cannot deny their pricing is more palatable up front. Abd several comments have posited proper questions, if cheap labor and lower costs mean better pricing, how do you explain the same product made in america, having moved manaufacturing to china, cost the exact same as when made in america but with lower quality? I think the economical question would require a savant or paragon economist to put all the strings together to explain or find the reasons for such discrepancy in pricing. Personally i like wrenching for myself, so if i could find a great deal on used, i would do that, but even used market is insane. With last 24 hours jacking up bids 10x or higher then when i find something that looks like a great deal. Its ridiculous. Buy what you feel most comfortable with. America coukd compete if it wanted to, but it doesnt. We are all stuck on this poverty, middle class, elute mantra, but its working class elite class, no inbetween.

[@mikeeygq]

A lot of small businesses are getting priced out of this game. Maybe these Chinese imports will make some domestics produce something more affordable. I’d take an American skid steer without AC and all digital electronics.

[@62egoodwin]

I'd just start ignoring those people. They are going to complain about anything no matter what !! They probably just jealous they can't have one themselves

[@LarsDcCase]

Most things are made in China. There is a factory in China that makes Caterpillar engines for the North American market.

[@MartyHenderson-ie9sp]

I for one Brock like to see the many options. I do not do this for a living. My homestead and leased land is a hobby. It COSTS me money, does not make money. My KZbin channel COSTS me money, not make money for me. WHY do I do it? Because I like doing it. I have to make my money go as far as I can as long as I can. I would absolutely love to go up and buy a brand new 2 to 3 ton excavator with A/C and heat. I cannot. I cannot afford to spend that much money on something that does not make me money. SOOOoooooo, I have to look at much cheaper options available out there. I also have selective wants, you might say. The ultra cheap mini exs with little gas engines are just not powerful enough or stable enough for my needs on 280 acres. I need a longer tracked Mini ex with at least 3 idle rollers on bottom. I want to thank you for the insight and explanations for everything.

[@jimmychandler9328]

I have a sany sy35 its a good machine. I have had a couple things done on warranty and they were both a very good experience. I think the dealer has alot to do with it. I think my warranty is 3 or 5 years. The dealer has came 2.5 hours to my house twice to do some warranty work. Sany is a very good buy in my opinion. I think i paid about 35k for it.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

I did a video about a month or maybe two months ago about a 3.5 ton excavator on somebody else’s property. He has been happy with his and bought largely due to the cost savings

[@n7hevn]

I appreciate your videos and your presentation, as you don't giggle about everything, every other minute, trying to look like a jovial fake guy, like other farm channel guys!

[@criticalevent]

A home owner having his own brand new excavator wasn't even a possibility before Chinese equipment started shipping. The best you could hope for is a lightly used grey market Japanese mini and it would still cost as much as a nice car.

[@dinosshed]

The cheap imports are best suited to the home owner, just like ryobi. If you need to use something for industrial applications, then spend the money and get a name brand.

[@kevinpulliam8029]

There are a ton of factors too many to list that affect the price of stuff labor benefits tariffs but if I were to buy a say Chinese machine at say 35k or say a New Holland for around 40k I'm buying the New Holland for the known quality as opposed to the unknown quality of the Chinese.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Yeah, but I don’t think those are the numbers. I priced new Holland last week and it’s more like 60 K not 40 K I’m not saying that you shouldn’t buy the new Holland. That might be the move, I’m just saying the numbers I was given.