Why are young men becoming more conservative as young women become more progressive? | LBC

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Chief Data Reporter at the Financial Times John Burn-Murdoch joins Andrew Marr to discuss his viral report on the ideological divide that's emerging between young men and women in many countries around the world. The findings show a huge point difference in political views between women aged 18-30 compared to their male counterparts.
Murdoch outlines some of the key factors influencing this division, including the rise of the #MeToo movement and an increase in women going to university - emphasising that this may lead to lower birth and marriage rates in the future.
According to the study, all of this is "exacerbated by the fact that the proliferation of smartphones and social media mean that young men and women now increasingly inhabit separate spaces and experience separate cultures."
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@markbright662
@markbright662 8 ай бұрын
Unrealistic economic expectations are still placed on men that don’t reflect the reality of the labour market today.
@spencera1129
@spencera1129 8 ай бұрын
The irony is, veering to the right will only exacerbate these problems
@joecurran2811
@joecurran2811 8 ай бұрын
​@@spencera1129The right have no interest in reforming divorve courts and child courts even though it would benefit the right
@reaceness
@reaceness 8 ай бұрын
Young people*. And for women there is a compound problem with the implied responsibility to have children, because women are expected to be brood mares, but also have successful careers, but then when their careers are impacted by having children, they are told "well you chose to have children". Its like going to a restaurant with two different menus and the waiter saying "well you didn't order the steak." The steak wasn't on my menu!
@BigBlack81
@BigBlack81 7 ай бұрын
@@joecurran2811 What a pity. For everyone.
@KateBennet-do1ed
@KateBennet-do1ed 7 ай бұрын
@@reacenessyes… you’re absolutely right.
@SkageXL5
@SkageXL5 8 ай бұрын
It's because you trained Men for a future that never existed.
@stirkz
@stirkz 8 ай бұрын
Social media will be the downfall of humanity
@Some_Cat_
@Some_Cat_ 8 ай бұрын
And smartphones. Worst invention in modern life.
@brazwen
@brazwen 7 ай бұрын
The decline was already occurring long before social media and internet.
@tabithan2978
@tabithan2978 7 ай бұрын
Or men could finally adapt to the 21st century!!!!
@brazwen
@brazwen 7 ай бұрын
@@tabithan2978 Out of all the decadence, dissipation and debauchery, your solution is just tell people to adapt? Great solution.
@trafficcone5449
@trafficcone5449 8 ай бұрын
The fact that more women are going to University doesnt convince me. By that logic, more men wouldve been progressive than woman for the many years that the ratio was reversed, which was not the case. I think the Internet has broadened exposure to different political views, so both men and women are considering a larger variety of points than in years past. When weighing the different options, conservatism simply has more to offer men than it does women.
@The_Phoenix_Saga
@The_Phoenix_Saga 8 ай бұрын
Yet funnily enough - with more opportunities, the depression rate has only increased. As if the more "progress" we've made, the more problems we've created with it and it's only going to increase - an exercise in futility.
@trafficcone5449
@trafficcone5449 8 ай бұрын
@@The_Phoenix_Saga irrelevant, the video was about why women are less conservative, not whether conservatism is better or worse than progressivism.
@si-hv3nu
@si-hv3nu 8 ай бұрын
University wasnt always the leftist indoctrination camp that it’s been for the past 20 to 30years. that’s why more men in the past weren’t progressive
@keech100
@keech100 8 ай бұрын
I dont think more women going to uni is by itself the thing of note probably more that men are not but at the same time job availability in industry is lower therefore people are poorer
@si-hv3nu
@si-hv3nu 8 ай бұрын
University hasn’t always been the leftist indoctrination camp that it has been for the past 30yrs. That’s why men who went to uni pre 90s weren’t all progressivisms
@WillaLamour
@WillaLamour 8 ай бұрын
How? First step is to realise that it’s literally bad-actors playing out to young men's fears - that’s really all it is. What young men think is happening is not as bad as it realise is. Social media is literally jamming a bogey-man doll in their faces and telling them they’re not needed. And that’s not the real-world.
@The_Phoenix_Saga
@The_Phoenix_Saga 8 ай бұрын
Tell that to all the young women who believe it and parrot it not just in their words but in their behaviour.
@rafaelmusacchio5257
@rafaelmusacchio5257 8 ай бұрын
​@@hightide4782 And so. The gender war continues...
@MHLivestreams
@MHLivestreams 8 ай бұрын
Young mMen need to be warned about the extent of bias against them when getting involved. Most men are financially ruined by divorce, and women benefit.
@alanwatterson2850
@alanwatterson2850 8 ай бұрын
Given the climate inaction, I'd argrue that things are much worse than people think.
@segue2ant395
@segue2ant395 8 ай бұрын
@@The_Phoenix_Saga I feel like you almost definitely didn't watch the video. The trend is clear - it's predominantly men that are becoming more fascistic.
@allip4226
@allip4226 8 ай бұрын
When you're used to privilege, equality seems like oppression.
@docca123
@docca123 8 ай бұрын
But young men wouldn’t have had long experiencing any privilege because they’re young. Women do better in education, and out earn men in their early to mid 20’s
@estherbravo4926
@estherbravo4926 8 ай бұрын
privileged in what regard, exactly?
@thewaffler1513
@thewaffler1513 8 ай бұрын
they used their privilege to build the modern world
@SkageXL5
@SkageXL5 8 ай бұрын
@@docca123Waaah Wahhhhhh
@SkageXL5
@SkageXL5 8 ай бұрын
@@estherbravo4926Waaaaah Wahhhhh
@anthonyfelix8589
@anthonyfelix8589 8 ай бұрын
It is clear the demographic of the LBC KZbin page is predominatly left leaning as some of you don't have a clue. I am a man (white - I know dreadful) and whereas I don't adhere to a political party, at this point in time it is impossible to vote for the left. How can I ? Young men are growing up in hardship constantly being told we have "privilege" or we are "oppressive", "toxic" driven by this left wing social ideology. Even now I am reading your comments about "men want to just hold up the patriarchy". What patriarchy ? The one which allows women in their 20s earn more than men ? The one which allows women to outperform men academically ? The one which allows women to live longer on average than men? or be less likely to be living on the streets? Until the left becomes welcoming to everybody, expect this gap to increase.
@jaysgamingcorner8539
@jaysgamingcorner8539 8 ай бұрын
Spot on comments, what patriarchy? That whole concept is, in my opinion, only for people to complain about the top tier of earners and power brokers in a society. The mighty patriarchy isn't doing much to help the men doing sanitation work at 2AM or mopping the floor at a Target. It's absurd
@rajeevparmar8844
@rajeevparmar8844 8 ай бұрын
100%
@Rootle2
@Rootle2 8 ай бұрын
We shouldn't call these people "the left" because what they talk about has little to do with any leftists traditions, better to call them "the new left". Same for the modern Conservative Party, they are not conservative anymore, they're indistinguishable from New Labour
@YCFCfollower
@YCFCfollower 6 ай бұрын
Exactly, nothing to do with Andrew Tate 😂
@MrGB-me8ws
@MrGB-me8ws 8 ай бұрын
The power dynamics of old benefitted men more. Of course men would be more 'conservative'. That's what being conservative is all about in this context - going back to the old ways from a bygone era, innit?
@The_Phoenix_Saga
@The_Phoenix_Saga 8 ай бұрын
It benefitted both. These days with both men and women competing against each other instead of complimenting each other - both have become quite miserable.
@robinhancock1790
@robinhancock1790 8 ай бұрын
@@The_Phoenix_Sagaclearly women disagree, hence why they are becoming more progressive
@jacobwilkins3532
@jacobwilkins3532 8 ай бұрын
Yeh, all those men who got blown up in the World Wars really benefitted from the power dynamic.
@robinhancock1790
@robinhancock1790 8 ай бұрын
@@jacobwilkins3532pointing to an event 80 years ago doesnt change the existence of the power dynamic which led to the pay gap and women being locked out of higher levels of work.
@MrGB-me8ws
@MrGB-me8ws 8 ай бұрын
@@jacobwilkins3532 all those women who were denied the right to serve, while the men went off to war, but rather were left pregnant and barefooted didn't suffer a thing!
@barrygentry5364
@barrygentry5364 8 ай бұрын
I don’t get it. Young men who feel they aren’t doing well enough are moving to the right, towards the political party that has largely been responsible for their not having done as well as they had hoped? Madness if true.
@danw5760
@danw5760 8 ай бұрын
It's because you view through binary party politics, when reality is more complex. You don't get it because you're outlook is too simplistic
@tickledeggz
@tickledeggz 8 ай бұрын
Most actual conservatives (as in, not ultra right wing, just right of centrist) see the current state of the Conservative Party as Blairote Neoliberalism wearing a blue hat instead of a Red One. The actual far right think the Conservative are Communists. Source: Their own media
@estherbravo4926
@estherbravo4926 8 ай бұрын
@@danw5760 indeed. Some people are too dumb to understand the difference between conservatism and the Conservatives.
@spencera1129
@spencera1129 8 ай бұрын
Well said… a self licking ice cream cone
@Kurauone__
@Kurauone__ 8 ай бұрын
@@estherbravo4926those with a conservative outlook are voting for Conservatives so the distinction you are drawing is immaterial in this case.
@B1GMACNFR1ES
@B1GMACNFR1ES 8 ай бұрын
Easy answer... Algorithms. People getting fed what makes them watch
@CorinthianIvory
@CorinthianIvory 4 ай бұрын
Big facts
@EileenHall-j9f
@EileenHall-j9f 8 ай бұрын
Young men are threatened, the status quo is being overturned. We do need a grown up debate about the inevitable evolution in Society.
@OrlandoDibiskitt
@OrlandoDibiskitt 8 ай бұрын
The "status quo" is always "being overturned".. For that reason, can we really say, then, that there is a "status quo" when it has always been "inevitable"?
@segue2ant395
@segue2ant395 8 ай бұрын
Young men **feel** threatened - but feelings aren't facts. Men have historically used their gender dominance to threaten others - so they (perhaps naturally) assume that any form of gender equality will involve them being threatened. It won't - it just won't involve them continually getting special treatment either. The assumption is not borne out by the evidence available.
@Al-ho1oo
@Al-ho1oo 8 ай бұрын
By what?
@estherbravo4926
@estherbravo4926 8 ай бұрын
threatened in what regard? Certainly not threatened when it comes to them doing all the hard working jobs?
@dawnjohns5279
@dawnjohns5279 8 ай бұрын
Dont worry guys its a fake user, any user that has the name user something something in their name is fake.
@apemoon1731
@apemoon1731 8 ай бұрын
Young men are coming to their senses, excellent 👍🏻
@Cauldron6
@Cauldron6 7 ай бұрын
Yeah they can’t handle equity so they want to revert back to a time when they were in charge without having to earn it. Real men aren’t threatened by equity and will work alongside women to make the world better for everyone.
@Toodyslexicforyou
@Toodyslexicforyou 7 ай бұрын
Incell alert
@apemoon1731
@apemoon1731 7 ай бұрын
@@Toodyslexicforyou You think I'm involuntarily celibate? 🤔 Hang on while I tell my wife 😅🤦🏻‍♂️
@Toodyslexicforyou
@Toodyslexicforyou 7 ай бұрын
@@apemoon1731 naur m8 he’s trans
@amukbir8777
@amukbir8777 7 ай бұрын
​​​@@apemoon1731Ignore him. My sister was called incel online and showed it to me bc someone thought she was a guy 😂 the more people use it the less meaning it will have Usually people who do not have a logical answer for something throw insults due to lacking emotional maturity Tho it can be funny
@calorus
@calorus 8 ай бұрын
Why are young men more conservative than young women? Because young women have agency. My view as forty something with young sons and daughters.
@calorus
@calorus 8 ай бұрын
@tranzorz6293 How so? The narrative espoused by the masculinist/manosphere/incel movement is that women shouldn't be in certain professional spaces. Or that the fact that they are different means that they shouldn't be competing with or independent of men. This social conservatism scaffolds or catalyses broader socially conservative views - Conservative being something of a misnomer for "Radically illiberal" - in which they claim the right to define what rights everyone else should be able exercise - from reproductive rights to healthcare rights to workplace place representation.
@lionelwatkins
@lionelwatkins 5 ай бұрын
Life is easier when the court is on your side
@markhayward7400
@markhayward7400 8 ай бұрын
A 'conservative' mindset is a response to perceived threat. That something about who you are, what you do, and how you live is under threat. It is important to recognise that some of those perceived threats are real. Where status and position is concerned, for there to be winners, there must also be losers
@segue2ant395
@segue2ant395 8 ай бұрын
I'm so curious what these real perceived threats are, relevant to this conversation. I can't think of a 'real threat' to men that isn't also a 'real threat' to women or non-binary people.
@themadpolymath3430
@themadpolymath3430 7 ай бұрын
You just saying non binary people is the problem he is refering too. ​@segue2ant395
@petervizzini8239
@petervizzini8239 7 ай бұрын
​@@segue2ant395Abortion, and gender affirming care towards children are two legitimate threats to humanity
@bdarecords_
@bdarecords_ 3 ай бұрын
@@petervizzini8239 Quite the opposite and this position is also never functional in any non-rhetorical (formal, academic) setting. If we cut all rhetoric away, conservatives would loose everything.
@chrisx8902
@chrisx8902 8 ай бұрын
Young men have simply woken up to the fact that all authorities, from the local council to the united nations, have decided to prioritize their female counterparts at their expense. Is it surprising if the beneficiaries of this policy seem to be broadly supportive of it, whilst those being actively discriminated against might feel somewhat resentful? It isn't social media that has changed male attitudes, it's affirmative action, and women-only shortlists, and non-meritocratic hiring policies.
@MrBell-iq3sm
@MrBell-iq3sm 8 ай бұрын
In what way? Men still control the biggest share of political, economic and cultural power in the world or any given country on earth.
@anthonyfelix8589
@anthonyfelix8589 8 ай бұрын
@@MrBell-iq3sm what percentage of men ? less than 0.5% of men are in control .. 99.5% of men are not .. and are not receiving any help (unlike their female counterparts). I don't understand how people on the left can't seem to distinguish between an incredibly small minority of men ruling against a massive majority of men who aren't...
@joecurran2811
@joecurran2811 8 ай бұрын
​@@MrBell-iq3smMen are more likely to be homeless and unemployed.
@MrBell-iq3sm
@MrBell-iq3sm 8 ай бұрын
@@joecurran2811 And what does this change about what I wrote? You must falsely believe that a system giving one group advantage over another doesn't have downsides for said group. The systemic problems men face in a patriarchy are created by other men.
@joecurran2811
@joecurran2811 8 ай бұрын
@@MrBell-iq3sm I don't know why my comments been clipped. I don't have an issue with what you wrote but did you leave the issues of child courts and divorce courts out, as well as homelessness and unemployment. Do you have an issue with people pointing it out? I believe in equality across the board.
@Mitjitsu
@Mitjitsu 8 ай бұрын
More women are going to university, but they tend to gravitate towards subjects that interest them more. Thus, are easier to graduate in and lead to jobs that don't pay as well as STEM subjects.
@terryr7622
@terryr7622 7 ай бұрын
Also leading to college debt
@shin-ishikiri-no
@shin-ishikiri-no 7 ай бұрын
​@@terryr7622That they expect men to pay for.
@YCFCfollower
@YCFCfollower 6 ай бұрын
People overestimate the influence of Andrew Tate. I’m 23 and have never watched one of his videos. Reasons why people might be right-wing are: being told how bad your country is (and that it’s bad to be patriotic), high government interference in their lives during covid etc etc.
@albertbrammer9263
@albertbrammer9263 8 ай бұрын
Making an issue where none exists.
@gavriloking5637
@gavriloking5637 8 ай бұрын
Conservativism is about preserving the patriarchy and that excludes as well as denigrates most women, period. Therefore it is no surprise that amongst the few young conservatives (there are not many) that men would make up the bulk.
@helicoptergunship
@helicoptergunship 8 ай бұрын
Patriarchy is a meaningless buzzword
@czgibson3086
@czgibson3086 8 ай бұрын
@@helicoptergunship Consult a dictionary.
@estherbravo4926
@estherbravo4926 8 ай бұрын
in what way are women denigrated? I have much more hope for my daughter than I do for my son, moving forward. Especially as my daughter is studying computer science & electronics, and understand there will be so many pathways open to her that won't be open to my son.
@MrBell-iq3sm
@MrBell-iq3sm 8 ай бұрын
@@helicoptergunship If you think that, then you spent too much time in the wrong internet circles. You should spend more time reading books, especially those about history or sociology or political sciences, if you're interested in topics like patriarchy or the role of men and women in society. Just make sure the author is studied the given field and isn't just a commentator.
@MrBell-iq3sm
@MrBell-iq3sm 8 ай бұрын
@@estherbravo4926 Why? Did the university your daughter attends have a 'No boys allowed' shield outside? Or did you tell him he had no chance to begin with, so he didn't even try to make something out of himself?
@fooni7400
@fooni7400 6 ай бұрын
I also think the political spectrum is widening. If I compare myself to a 25 yr old 15yrs ago (assuming the exact same political standpoint on every issue), I definitely think they would have been considered far left in 2010. Today I might be considered moderate or slightly leaning left (with some of my opinions on certain issues leaning right)
@charliec6020
@charliec6020 8 ай бұрын
Nothing to do with Joe Rogan, Andrew Tate and Jordan Pieterson... nothing whatsoever
@danw5760
@danw5760 8 ай бұрын
Chicken and egg?
@charliec6020
@charliec6020 8 ай бұрын
@@danw5760 Joe and Andrew definitely resemble eggs, so that leaves Jordan as the chicken?
@danw5760
@danw5760 8 ай бұрын
@@charliec6020 joe Rogan is a lifelong democrat, Peterson is just an old fashioned christian, anyone who finds them extreme could only be an extremist themself. Tate seems like a genuinely bad apple, although I know little of him so I may be wrong, but I feel could not be reasonably connected with the first two
@charliec6020
@charliec6020 8 ай бұрын
@danw5760 Thanks I unfortunately have correlated the type of mentor figures young men increasingly are turning to in the digital spaces as a progressive dive into right wing extremism. Whilst Joe and Jordan are acceptably mainstream they seem to be stepping stones for the algorithmic "filter bubbles" mentioned that then feed young men Andrew Tate and his ilk within their social media space.
@Al-ho1oo
@Al-ho1oo 8 ай бұрын
Yeah but to be fair everything that they are saying we’ve been hearing for centuries. They didn’t invent discrimination
@ClannCholmain
@ClannCholmain 8 ай бұрын
As old as history. Democracy is very young.
@lynnmothibeli325
@lynnmothibeli325 8 ай бұрын
Very mixed and balanced views here under the comments section. I was afraid that I was potentially going to run into a crowd of redpillers spilling all kinds of talking points but that seems not to be the case. I'm very proud of human beings for their ability to be objective when discussing controversial, serious and sensitive matters👏🏾❤❤
@drjordan5706
@drjordan5706 8 ай бұрын
​@tranzorz6293when we opened our mind to redpilled boys all we could hear was misogyny so we closed our minds to protect ourselves from brainrot. Sad you didn't manage to save yourself tho
@django3422
@django3422 8 ай бұрын
​@tranzorz6293What makes you say that?
@lynnmothibeli325
@lynnmothibeli325 8 ай бұрын
@@django3422 That's why I did not respond to him or her.
@bandidiablo2432
@bandidiablo2432 8 ай бұрын
@tranzorz6293indeed they are very close minded
@ASLUHLUHC3
@ASLUHLUHC3 8 ай бұрын
Two words: social media
@deanlowdon8381
@deanlowdon8381 7 ай бұрын
Are young men becoming more conservative, or are there just a few loud voices on social media?
@phoenixreborn6065
@phoenixreborn6065 8 ай бұрын
Notice how it's never "Why are X people progressivss?" because that is assumed to be the norm, instead it's always the question of "Why are you the outsider? Why don't you just fall in line already!?" etc. It only ever seems to a problem when you move further abd further to the right and not the left.
@The_Phoenix_Saga
@The_Phoenix_Saga 8 ай бұрын
Almost like you're being conditioned to lean one way and condemned when leaning the other...
@Mr.H-zu1jc
@Mr.H-zu1jc 8 ай бұрын
Well progressivism is more popular, rightfully so.
@phoenixreborn6065
@phoenixreborn6065 8 ай бұрын
@@Mr.H-zu1jcThe only thing it is doing is progressing us off the cliff of sanity.
@Mr.H-zu1jc
@Mr.H-zu1jc 8 ай бұрын
@@phoenixreborn6065 that’s the minority opinion.
@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax
@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax 8 ай бұрын
@@phoenixreborn6065 You just proved why it's not working for young men , with what you just wrote LOLOL That's their opinion too. Thanks for the help proving progress is better.
@Mr.H-zu1jc
@Mr.H-zu1jc 8 ай бұрын
Conservative men- “I’m entitled to feel superior to ppl more educated than I, and that’s being taken away from me.”
@calorus
@calorus 8 ай бұрын
They are still entitled to, but now there are a lot of women doing it to them.
@Mr.H-zu1jc
@Mr.H-zu1jc 8 ай бұрын
@@calorus why? Why are men entitled to feel superior to the women?
@Ajalemes
@Ajalemes 8 ай бұрын
spot on. conservative men have gotten too comfortable with being "superior", and now there is a narrower gap between men and women, they lean further right to compensate for not being as "superior".
@calorus
@calorus 8 ай бұрын
@@Mr.H-zu1jc Everyone's allowed to feel superior to everyone, if they feel the inclination.
@docca123
@docca123 8 ай бұрын
@@Mr.H-zu1jcexactly - that’s why women should go into the army against any invasion by Russia and men can stay at home
@alexmarsh1839
@alexmarsh1839 8 ай бұрын
3:46 I don't think both can be true.
@maneshipocrates2264
@maneshipocrates2264 8 ай бұрын
Trying to blame young men for all the past patriarchy is very bad. May not be the only reason. White women overwhelmingly voted for trumpf and are trumpf supporters though.
@sueyourself5413
@sueyourself5413 8 ай бұрын
And what do American politics have to do with us?
@maneshipocrates2264
@maneshipocrates2264 8 ай бұрын
Did you not hear them say 'around the world?'. Trust me it has a lot to do with us.@@sueyourself5413
@The_Phoenix_Saga
@The_Phoenix_Saga 8 ай бұрын
@@sueyourself5413 It was an example.
@teddansonLA
@teddansonLA 8 ай бұрын
White women didn't overwhelmingly vote for Trump. In exit polls, the figure came out as 53% of white women voting for Trump; in more carefull polling (because, in 2020, not everybody voted at a polling centre), the figure turns out to be 47%.
@kamrudkd
@kamrudkd 8 ай бұрын
Its simple.... Even there is research to support it. Not all but most of these Conservative young men are single, lonely, sexually frustrated incels. There is data that shows that when men are failing in romance and relationships they do to more right leaning politics and extreme movements. Just look it up.
@grahamjones5400
@grahamjones5400 8 ай бұрын
Fear, i guess.
@rjy8960
@rjy8960 7 ай бұрын
I can only talk from my perspective working in the electronics industry since the late 80's. The profession has changed a LOT over the last few decades with systems ever becoming more complex to design and build, needing different skillsets to those needed when I started out. The problem is that these skills are not cheap to teach because you need competent people to teach them backed up with real-world experience of the tools needed to execute modern designs - capital outlay for equipment that is very expensive. There isn't the budget in the UK to teach these skills so the ability for us to turn out engineers is limited as placements for students diminishes. So is it that younger generations of males don't get the opportunity to study what are seen as typically "male" professions? Going back to the turn of the century there was a huge push to outsource UK production firstly to European plants and then to the Far East, so there is less of a need for local talent? We don't have many even near state of the art electronic production facilities in the UK, let alone chip fabrication capability. Have we just let engineering in the UK die? Is this also true of other engineering professions? Is the UK being left behind after decades of outsourcing? Is UK manufacturing now primarily automated with skilled roles being replaced by more lower skill operative roles? Is this why less males go into higher education?
@gm9460
@gm9460 8 ай бұрын
Andrew is very very behind on this issue. This issue and connected potential demographic collapse is a huge deal that very few people are prepared to acknowledge
@garymarls
@garymarls 8 ай бұрын
Completely wrong analysis
@Toodyslexicforyou
@Toodyslexicforyou 7 ай бұрын
Ow no
@CherDele
@CherDele 8 ай бұрын
Power and control. Men can't bear losing control of their ego.🤷🏻‍♀️
@andrewneil6027
@andrewneil6027 8 ай бұрын
women think man have one, until they don’t
@segue2ant395
@segue2ant395 8 ай бұрын
​@CustardSpace If you're not comfortable confronting the facts of an overwhelming historical trend without throwing up a 'nOt aLl MeN', you're not mature enough to debate the issue.
@CherDele
@CherDele 8 ай бұрын
@CustardSpace project much huh
@tickledeggz
@tickledeggz 8 ай бұрын
Maybe we just dont like having our concerns brushed off with braindead takes like "Men can't bear losing control of their ego"
@kamrudkd
@kamrudkd 8 ай бұрын
Its simple.... Even there is research to support it. Not all but most of these Conservative young men are single, lonely, sexually frustrated incels. There is data that shows that when men are failing in romance and relationships they do to more right leaning politics and extreme movements. Just look it up.
@MarkWhiley
@MarkWhiley 7 ай бұрын
Oh jeez can we not label Gen Z the 'Andrew Tate Generation'? Yes, there have been Jordan Peterson (Boomer) and Tate (Millennial) stepping into the fray with self-help guidance for men at a point when generational careers in your town's car factory are over, and the blueprint of 'being a man' from your father's generation has been challenged in every which way, but that is not the point in which you label a generation after those trying to corrupt them. I think what is happening in this moment are struggles with identity, struggles post-economic crisis to get a start in a career and to afford living, struggles of men being afraid to talk to women and the consequences of saying the wrong thing being higher than ever (though totally right that these things must change), and little support to navigate this world. Would highly recommend Caitlin Moran's book What About Men and what Bonnie Greer has written and said on the subject.
@kingofcards9516
@kingofcards9516 8 ай бұрын
Why? Because why would men side with the people who for the past few decades have utterly ruined and shown utter contempt for them?
@vaishi67
@vaishi67 7 ай бұрын
At no point during this was the actual difference in numbers in conservative values between genders was discussed. Is the difference 2%? 8%? 99%? Not very useful without that metric.
@martynblackburn9632
@martynblackburn9632 8 ай бұрын
Men with greater upper body strength tend to be more right wing. Also wider shoulders associated with greater athleticism.
@django3422
@django3422 8 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, sounds like you've definitely researched this one. Definitely not just some off-the-cuff remark that "sounds about right" to you.
@c.f.okonta8815
@c.f.okonta8815 8 ай бұрын
Wen with more feminine traits tend to be more liberal
@martynblackburn9632
@martynblackburn9632 8 ай бұрын
@@django3422 The research shows exactly that. Bodybuilders and athletes tend to sympathise with right wing ideologies.They are less likely to believe in things like socio-economic equality. They are more likely to endorse right wing politicians.
@Rootle2
@Rootle2 8 ай бұрын
​@@martynblackburn9632 "The research" lol
@martynblackburn9632
@martynblackburn9632 8 ай бұрын
@@Rootle2 Well it is research. It's data.
@RK-um9tu
@RK-um9tu 8 ай бұрын
In a PATRICHAL soceity where the majority of women are SECOND-CLASS citiezen, why won't YOUNG men want to MAINTAIN their unearned privilages?
@mu6qy
@mu6qy 8 ай бұрын
Yeah all those wars women got sent too
@MichaelYianni-sn3wm
@MichaelYianni-sn3wm 8 ай бұрын
If you look at family's all across the country & you look at adult brothers & sisters who are in their 20s / 30s I guarantee you that you will find in the majority of cases that the sister's will be doing better in life than their brother's are. The sister's are more likely to be in a long term relationship & have children. The brothers are more likely to be single, possibly for years & have no children. Woman do have it though at times but there is no way that I'm going to believe that they are doing worse than men when it comes to building life. The stats are definitely against men when it comes to that .
@RK-um9tu
@RK-um9tu 7 ай бұрын
@@MichaelYianni-sn3wm Thanks for all that scientic data you shared. Facts are no one care what you believe. Just because you are too lazy to read is not my problem.
@RK-um9tu
@RK-um9tu 7 ай бұрын
@@mu6qy Please name one war the US has been involved in since WWII. Every single one after that has been an invasion.
@DeletedDeleter
@DeletedDeleter 7 ай бұрын
What unearned privileges are young men receiving?
@annepoitrineau5650
@annepoitrineau5650 8 ай бұрын
"La femme est l'avenir de l'homme" (the future of men/mankind is women). Quote from a french poet. My mother is more left than my dad (he is 93, she is 87). We also live longer. Now we need to go and vote whenever there is an opportunity!
@wussrestbrook1200
@wussrestbrook1200 7 ай бұрын
Amazing how women take the future when European men conquered all the other scary men. Where was this during the world wars?
@zoompt-lm5xw
@zoompt-lm5xw 7 ай бұрын
@@wussrestbrook1200They (women) think they're entitled to princess treatment. Nothing new under the sun
@NapoleonGelignite
@NapoleonGelignite 8 ай бұрын
I suspect it’s as much about IQ as gender. I’ve found that the more right wing tend to be more emotional and less rational. The right wing response to climate science being the best example.
@jeffholt9437
@jeffholt9437 8 ай бұрын
I think you have this the wrong way around?
@danw5760
@danw5760 8 ай бұрын
The smugness of your comment whilst spouting demonstrate nonsense is impressive
@NapoleonGelignite
@NapoleonGelignite 8 ай бұрын
@@danw5760 - that’s a very emotional response, and not very well worded.
@NapoleonGelignite
@NapoleonGelignite 8 ай бұрын
@@jeffholt9437 - can you explain why you think that, or are you stating it as if your opinions are facts?
@NapoleonGelignite
@NapoleonGelignite 8 ай бұрын
@@danw5760 - wow ‘demonstrate nonsense is impressive’
@garyh1572
@garyh1572 8 ай бұрын
1930s Germany all over again.
@Toodyslexicforyou
@Toodyslexicforyou 7 ай бұрын
No not really, you should study it.
@Toodyslexicforyou
@Toodyslexicforyou 7 ай бұрын
Also btw should count 1920s in as well
@toriesout8692
@toriesout8692 8 ай бұрын
I think his data is 20 years out of date.
@keithbrown3045
@keithbrown3045 8 ай бұрын
You basically men are devolving into Vikings?
@MrBell-iq3sm
@MrBell-iq3sm 8 ай бұрын
Is that a serious question?
@dreamagery
@dreamagery Ай бұрын
Hold your ground men. We’re in charge.
@hahahaaha7208
@hahahaaha7208 14 күн бұрын
Nah, not anymore.
@BOZ_11
@BOZ_11 8 ай бұрын
"Liberal" doesn't mean anything; it's not a word that has much purchase in the UK, we tend to talk in terms of socialist (left wing) or conservative (right wing) principles. Younger Brits listen to a lot of American media who use the false dichotomy of liberal vs conservative, and then continue their ramble built on words that haven't been clearly defined. So it ends up being a meaningless, mangled mess of a statement. What exactly does "women are more liberal" mean? Are they voting Green or Liberal Democrat? No. Are they more engaged in civic minded endeavours, like charities, labour unions, green initiatives? No. Are they more promiscuous? Yes. So that makes them "liberal", does it?
@estherbravo4926
@estherbravo4926 8 ай бұрын
Liberalism is very much a British tradition, not a US one..
@TikyeWilliams
@TikyeWilliams 4 ай бұрын
The craziest thing i heard was that some women making 30k a month for feet pics simps make it bad for us men. I respect the hustle but feet pics 30k our society is demented
@DavidFlockhart
@DavidFlockhart 8 ай бұрын
Testosterone.
@Toodyslexicforyou
@Toodyslexicforyou 7 ай бұрын
Is a hormone well done 🎉
@thedoommarine5845
@thedoommarine5845 3 ай бұрын
correct.
@VincentPeters-vs2us
@VincentPeters-vs2us 8 ай бұрын
It's mainly to do with human DNA dealing with the imminent threat to the environment in which it needs to survive.
@QuarrybankSecretary
@QuarrybankSecretary 8 ай бұрын
Women mature earlier 🤷‍♂️
@willyhill7509
@willyhill7509 8 ай бұрын
Men are more practical and pragmatic, women are more emotional, in general of course and there is a crossover. It's not excatly ground breaking thought, people have known this for thousands of years. It's as if these pseudo political commentators don't know anything about anything in the real world.
@chrisjames1924
@chrisjames1924 8 ай бұрын
Add Jordan Peterson to that list of ‘pseudo political commentators’.
@general5503
@general5503 8 ай бұрын
Men punch walls when they get angry. If that's not emotional i don't know what is
@reaceness
@reaceness 8 ай бұрын
"people have known this for thousands of years"😂 Like when Aristotle wrote that women have less teeth than men, and people "knew" that for thousands of years until someone decided to just... count them, and then realised that is was bulls**t.
@clownworld3913
@clownworld3913 8 ай бұрын
It really doesn't take a genius to analyze why net producers ( men ) would be opposed to being milked out of an ever increasing percentage of the fruits of their labor while net takers ( women ) would be in favor of being given even more.
@alvincyt
@alvincyt 8 ай бұрын
Ladies, every time you see a spider or a roach, a driveway covered with snow, a flat tire or a broken toilet valve, don't forget to remind yourself how strong and independent you are. Even when you feel you really have no choice but to find a man, you can simply identify as one.
@deanlowdon8381
@deanlowdon8381 7 ай бұрын
This comment must be an attempt at satire?
@shin-ishikiri-no
@shin-ishikiri-no 7 ай бұрын
​@@deanlowdon8381 It seems your response was an attempt to nullify humour. It didn't work.
@si-hv3nu
@si-hv3nu 8 ай бұрын
Because men generally think, and women generally feel when it comes to politics
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 8 ай бұрын
The regime plays on women's instincts to conform.
@joemwas5442
@joemwas5442 8 ай бұрын
Very true and obvious
@deadpool3982
@deadpool3982 8 ай бұрын
Yet most right wing politics use feelings, not facts They try to use fear of the different to get people to follow them, that certainly isn’t fact based is it?
@Gycvbjhfddaerfchknopjgvvj
@Gycvbjhfddaerfchknopjgvvj 8 ай бұрын
Except right wing viewpoints are generally based on emotion and a belief in something because it feels right and traditional, as opposed to data driven. Also studies show left wing people are usually of higher intelligence and better educated lol.
@Barnacl3_Boi
@Barnacl3_Boi 8 ай бұрын
The implication that being conservative is logical and smart🤮
@goonerboz6023
@goonerboz6023 8 ай бұрын
Men should be very happy whoever you vote for you get conservative yellow ones blue ones and red ones
@markwelch317
@markwelch317 7 ай бұрын
Radicalised. The word you want is radicalised.
@Toodyslexicforyou
@Toodyslexicforyou 7 ай бұрын
Yes men are getting by Andrew tate
@apostateunion
@apostateunion Ай бұрын
I feel radicalized by liberals attacking me.
@jamesrmorris1952
@jamesrmorris1952 8 ай бұрын
Why is it "always bad actors" you know the left is like that person who is always suspicious of you, never trusts you, always assume bad intent without any justification and first chance he gets rips you off or betrays trust. Those who constantly assume evil intent are the ones who only have evil thoughts life the Antifa person who attach a teenage Christian with razor blades attached to a glove he was so brave he only did it in a large crowd with a mask on. Ive found those who shout the most about kindness, tolerance and diversity are the most unkind. intolerance people who only what diversity to those groups they think deserve it.
@petercorbett3794
@petercorbett3794 8 ай бұрын
I haven’t the faintest idea what this is all about or what it’s predicated on. It sounds like total bullcrap to me.
@peterwaite8301
@peterwaite8301 8 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly Sir.
@theukeconomist6518
@theukeconomist6518 8 ай бұрын
It's simple. Women enjoy sleeping around without taking responsibility for their actions, this is not very Conservative. Men, desire a stabled relationship that can lead to marriage. But young women aren't interested in marriage or monogamy at a younger age due to the large options of men they have to date and sleep with.
@deanlowdon8381
@deanlowdon8381 7 ай бұрын
Where did you get that nonsense from!? 😂
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 8 ай бұрын
Tik tok busy
@goonerboz6023
@goonerboz6023 8 ай бұрын
It's a win win situation for men vote blue get conservative vote red get conservative vote yellow get conservative
@tickledeggz
@tickledeggz 8 ай бұрын
You dont understand politics.
@goonerboz6023
@goonerboz6023 8 ай бұрын
@@tickledeggz I do lot more than you
@Emkei2010
@Emkei2010 8 ай бұрын
Real Men 1 - Vegan-Femi Boys 0
@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax
@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax 8 ай бұрын
So you're on 0 then? Join the club!
@shin-ishikiri-no
@shin-ishikiri-no 7 ай бұрын
There are vegan social conservatives. Don't bring veganism into this.
@shin-ishikiri-no
@shin-ishikiri-no 7 ай бұрын
@@Emkei2010 That's a nice mirror you have there. Really brings out your nose and bozo haircut.
@RickPeake01
@RickPeake01 8 ай бұрын
Is it becasue most young men cant distinguish their arses from their elbows let alone putcdown their xbox controllers.. 😂😂
@Al-ho1oo
@Al-ho1oo 8 ай бұрын
That is rather untrue and offensive. No need to insult men. Though I agree that most conservatives can’t distinguish their arses from their elbows, but women can be conservative too
@RickPeake01
@RickPeake01 8 ай бұрын
@@Al-ho1oo 😁💯👍
@jacobpope7708
@jacobpope7708 8 ай бұрын
isn't it obvious?
@MarjorieStoker-oj8fh
@MarjorieStoker-oj8fh 8 ай бұрын
Ask yourself why
@mjl2904
@mjl2904 8 ай бұрын
Very long winded and educated way of saying it is because of the gender war 😅
@goonerboz6023
@goonerboz6023 8 ай бұрын
No problem for the men then voting conservative you now have 3 conservative parties red conservative yellow conservative and blue conservatives so whoever's you vote for the men will get what they want a conservative but feel sorry for the women who haven't realised whoever they vote for you get conservative
@Tarz2155
@Tarz2155 8 ай бұрын
Maybe it’s not social media , have you consider that liberal values regarding the genders aren’t as enticing as we thought.
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