Why Aren't All Cocktails Served in the Same Glass?

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[@rabbitracer79]

I like how serious she is about the hospitality industry. I have a friend who for years was a fine dinning server and he explained how important his job was to him once and I couldn't help but admire his enthusiasm. it seems so frivolous but its important because when u go to a fancy bar or restaurant ur paying for the atmosphere. im a craftsman by trade so I can really respect someone who takes pride in their job. whatever u do, do it to the best of ur ability. thats respectable I think

[@snaz76]

+rabbitracer79 I´ve never understood people working in the service/hospitality industry that aren´t serviceminded, don´t realise what it takes or just don´t care...

[@remu2733]

snaz76

[@snaz76]

Prussia Slovenia yes?

[@domharper5918]

rabbitracer79 well said

[@freddyscoggan9345]

Bartenders rules + social perspective with drinks; + anything more if you are a beginner... sort of wants to make you stay away from bars and go to Bevmo/grocery store/ liquor store and look up recipes to make your favorite drinks for cheap.

[@dannytbm]

The most masculine men don't worry about their masculinity.

[@MeloraCarabas]

When a man drinks a fancy pink drink I assume he knows very well what he likes to drink.

[@stephenalcala9655]

Real men drink bubbles and pink drinks

[@frogtownroad9104]

Agreed, I prefer old school drinks like Old Fashioned, Manhattans, and Sazeracs. However, if a gentleman orders a Cosmo like a gentleman, he immediately has my respect.

[@mr.speyside5240]

Frogtown Road I love Old Fashioneds and I have no problem drinking a Cosmo. I laugh when my male friends tease me and I have them try it and they realize how strong the drink is. 😂

[@AlasdairGR]

Or he’s just gladly embracing any of the more feminine aspects of himself.

[@String.Epsilon]

If you served them all in the same glass, you'd need a huge glass and it would probably taste weird.

[@Drukzul]

+String.Epsilon Thanks for the laugh mate.

[@syddlinden8966]

Damn I wish the ap had the thumbs up feature! I'd +1 the hell outta this!

[@decidiousrex]

You. I like you

[@bs4e]

hahaha

[@thetactician2787]

Cocktail chemistry in a nutshell

[@timothypage252]

And here I am with scotch in a coffe mug.

[@reubin13c]

Timothy Page Same here. Cheers.

[@clowntrooper61]

I thought you'd put irish whiskey in it

[@gabriel300010]

mix it with some coffee

[@MWarne58]

You're the finest man who ever breathed.

[@Cinnabons95]

Lmao I put everything in a coffee mug, and I'm not ashamed to say it, my main glass to drink wine out of is a Sam Adams October fest Stein.

[@MrRoboskippy]

If I learned anything from this video, it is that, I cannot afford to get drunk in New York.

[@Ten_Thousand_Locusts]

04:27 did you just bend the white line to accommodate for the bending of the light passing through the glass stem?! That's an amazing bit of detail!

[@TheWotsa]

that's some sharp eye for detail you got there

[@Ten_Thousand_Locusts]

+Kinito Wotsa But seriously though, how awesome is that?

[@TheWotsa]

+ThaJrr lol its is pretty awesome

[@tnttiger3079]

Jeez!

[@sebastiansvarring9115]

it is bending the wrong way tho

[@e-jthompson6322]

* sips wine from pint glass *

[@Sothiamient]

* sips wine from box *

[@lifeaccordingtorizo]

* chugs tequila from keg stand *

[@Gooberpatrol66]

* sips milk from bag *

[@theresafloresca1509]

E-J Thompson lol 😂

[@TheJeevo92]

*Sips Bloody Mary from a Red Solo Cup*

[@Eirkyr]

"No one should drink that much maritini.." Just try and stop me.

[@MarkShaneHansen]

If you can't spell "martini", clearly we already failed in stopping you :D

[@dureaudeveraux2061]

Lol looks like someone had too much martini that spelling it became hard

[@drnex7085]

Your address?

[@memedesima7953]

in Italian maritini means "little husbands"

[@SamuelCish]

4:29 The white line is refracted behind the stem of the glass. Damn, that's some quality shit.

[@superpower9772]

SamuelCish yeahh

[@liwioOlallan]

This woman should totally make a bartending youtube-channel! Such a cool person!!

[@thetactician2787]

Linnea Jakobsson if your looking for a cool cocktail making channel try cocktail chemistry

[@Olordrin]

And The Educated Barfly and How to Drink and Steve the Bartender

[@kelseychowan5567]

Painally Yours, www.youtube.com/@TR-IRL loves #CockTails

[@AltarenGalil]

What a cool gal, i could listen to her talk for ages.

[@stealthcactus]

She needs a bartending/cocktails/speakeasy channel.

[@AltarenGalil]

stealthcactus84 definitely!

[@brianezell5790]

Jan Šinkovec highly knowledgeable indeed.

[@randi-theriault4839]

Eye roll. Sounds like it doenst take much to entertain you

[@gavinbonner567]

Randi -Theriault what an unnecessary thing to say. Why do you feel the need to put someone down about something hey enjoy that is literally having 0 affect on you. Are you that sad in your day to day that you feel the need to shit on everyone behind a keyboard?

[@LowellMorgan]

The champagne flute keeps the champagne carbonated longer, it has minimal exposure for it's volume. Most of the glass shapes have something to do with retaining carbonation, temperature, or aroma.

[@khawajadotd]

+LowellMorgan yeah, I was disappointed that there wasnt more discussion about the "functional" reasons for specific glasses

[@johnboyjjb]

nothing about the keeping hand heat away from drink

[@lnt305]

No, actually champagne flutes are designed to carbonate faster because it looks pretty. Drink from a wine glass to actually cherish the drink

[@AlexHoward]

Nick & Nora is a reference to Nick and Nora Charles, the fictional main characters from Dashiell Hammett's "Thin Man" series of novels, portrayed by William Powell and Myna Loy. They were not real people.

[@ShanePatricTaylor]

Wooooow....

[@seeranos]

this definitely makes me think Idea Channel should have a conversation podcast with knowledgeable people.

[@kdarby08]

Having worked in the wine and beer industry I've done several taste comparisons of how the same wine or beer changes scent and flavor when served in different glasses and I found that this really does have merit. I'm sure the same if true for cocktails, as Ivy mentioned. I'm all for the most utilitarian design of glass, the glass that will make my drink taste and smell its very best. Comfort and ego be damned! Also, as far as champagne goes there are typically 3 types of glasses. The only one that I think is silly is the champagne coupe, because of the broad surface area the champagne will lose it's fizz more quickly. The most practical is a tulip glass (white wine glass). But champagne flutes are more popular because it shows off the tiny streams of bubbles in the wine better. If admiring bubbles is silly, then I like being silly!

[@ezralimm]

+Kelly Williams martini glasses matter for the expression of gin's bouquet too. A sniffer for strong gin cocktails will just burn the nose with alcohol and juniper.

[@danielamedina9512]

The reason for the traditional champagne glass shape, or pompadour glass, is that champagne was originally a sweeter wine. The wide rim allowed the champagne to reach the lateral taste buds to appreciate better the taste. The bubbles are really important, they are called perlage and the finer, the better. They help to expand the taste in the mouth and the bouquet of the champagne, prosecco or sparkling wine.

[@ShanePatricTaylor]

It also preserves them because there's less surface-area at the top of such a glass for those bubbles (and the carbonation) to disperse over. And yet all she could say about them is that she thinks they look silly. What an expert!

[@reddevved]

ivy mix, quite the name for a bartender

[@clever-username]

nominative determinism

[@Pfsif]

Stripper name.

[@gamerN77]

As a man, why should I give a f*ck if my drink is pink, blue or red? I know some do feel less 'manly' or something but if it tastes good, why should there be a stigma on it? Btw. great video! I'd love to go to this bar one day

[@CGoody564]

overTIMe I'm with you. If anything, it's more manly to sit in a public space with a pink drink whilst not feeling emasculated at all.

[@goblinb]

I hear ya!

[@MeloraCarabas]

We don't need our genitals to drink. So we drink whatever we want.

[@Hypatia4242]

overTIMe - You're a good guy, which nowadays is rare. Insecure masculinity is all the rage among drinkers.

[@MrMalcolm220]

slaanghoul ive done em with my gf and her female friends

[@benedictifye]

a bartender named Ivy Mix? I call shenanigans

[@berkaysaldaml8152]

lowerright of the screen while her name is on screen. it says she also has an aptronym which means that she has a funny relation between her name and occupation.

[@cgoicoechea]

I will drink the pinkest of drinks from the fanciest of glasses, thank you very much

[@rituales]

+Connor Goicoechea A true hero! :D

[@FullTonProductions]

i like this episode format where you talk with a specialist about one particular topic in-depth, i would love to see more like this

[@hazelschofield9161]

+tomf me too :) learning about this stuff is fun. thats why I loved thirsty traveler so much

[@ruanheymans7382]

+tomf Dido!

[@FullTonProductions]

+Tom Beuerlein that's a fair point, but i just see it as a different format rather than a lack of research. Mike still had specific points to cover throughout the episode, but rather than tackle it all himself he had Ivy, someone with personal experience with the topic, answer questions and prompts. she can speak easily from a perspective Mike probably couldn't quite reach even with weeks of his own research. it's just a more organic way of presenting the same ideas, which i understand isn't for everyone

[@joshsinsel3073]

I love hearing folks who love and know their field as well as she does, I hope to see more videos like this.

[@fwenny]

also totally loved the format of this video, totally want more like this

[@btdtpro]

I like this "out and about" format for the show

[@CosmicNerdStudios]

me too

[@officialmodsound]

+btdtpro Ya definitely feels more professional and less ego-centric which is important when you're trying to gain new audience members. Though I feel as though Mike could work on his stage appearance it felt a little awkward, and artificial when the camera zoomed to show Mike intently listening, and those over reactions to man little bit cringy. But ya lov this format as well it's cute.

[@btdtpro]

Mod.Sound Yeah, first times are always big learning experiences. I bet three or four videos of this format later, and he'll be way more relaxed and smooth.

[@officialmodsound]

+btdtpro tru

[@thomasdagley1506]

I never thought that when I grew up PBS would teach me how to better drink.

[@aaroncalloway2898]

I dont drink, but I liked this episode.

[@ipdddd]

lol it wouldve been funny to see him slowly get drunk throughout the video xD

[@ShanePatricTaylor]

It actually would've.

[@Matty002]

the tl;dr of this video is masculinity is literally more fragile than glass

[@benfleming1000]

The thin glasses weren't used by the rich because they were disposable, they were used because you had to have manners and not be a drunken peasant slamming your tankard down on the table. They were delicate and refined and mannered and the rich saw themselves as more civilised and polite. This is the reason for glasses with tall stems and thin sides like wine glasses we still use. The School Of Life recently did a video about manners that mentions this.

[@journcy]

Her name. Her name is Ivy *Mix.* And she makes cocktails. I was amused.

[@XDinky]

+journcy it's a nickname

[@SeaToSummit1969]

+XDinky No it's not. It's an aptronym.

[@KnuckleHunkybuck]

This format of this episode felt like Mr. Rogers for adults.

[@KnuckleHunkybuck]

+High-Waisted Pantaloons Not bad? I thought it was great!

[@AlbinoTanuki]

+KnuckleHunkybuck Never thought of it that way, but yeah, it does.

[@KnuckleHunkybuck]

+High-Waisted Pantaloons I actually kind of thought that's what you meant, and was replying in that kind of "I agree with you, but even more so" way of speaking. But like you said, "Tone _something, something,_ internets."

[@haydengovette5343]

Is Mr. Rogers not for adults?

[@GamerGoingGrey]

I started this video, paused it, poured myself a drink, then finally continued.

[@Zerepzerreitug]

Who else thinks a KZbin channel with Ivy talking about nothing but drinks and bar-related topics would be interesting to watch? :)

[@soup2634]

+Arturo Gutierrez hell yea I'd watch that. I was hoping he was going to plug her channel. :-/ Guess there isn't one.

[@Cortarian]

+Logan White Glad I wasn't the only one waiting for a channel plug, shame she didn't get one. I'd love to listen to her talk bar "shop" for hours. Then again I also worked in a bar that had a $3,000 shots (8 shot minimum.) So maybe that normally does not happen to people.

[@MrMockRock]

+Arturo Gutierrez She's knowledgeable, well spoken, and has info to share. She'd be a great KZbinr. Oh yeah, she's also freaking hot. That doesn't hurt.

[@Cortarian]

Truly hope she might after seeing some of the comments. Then again that it'self may send anyone off.

[@Zerepzerreitug]

Cortarian I agree

[@prince_nocturne]

The best mixed drink I've ever had was called a pink squirrel. It was a VIBRANTLY pink concoction that came in a curvy glass. It was Strawberries and Cream liqueur with some rum. It was absolutely amazing. I ordered it with my (very busty) girlfriend at the time, and at the time I had VERY long hair, in a high ponytail. SO the bartender looks at me, looks at her, looks back at me, just shakes his head and goes "I'm not asking questions!" Full disclosure: Straight guy, don't drink much (and my 'masculinity' isn't threatened by pink).

[@chemistryguy]

Her last name is Mix. Nomative determinism at work.

[@HisCarlnessI]

+chemistryguy My first thought was that it was a really good name for what she's doing.

[@loupax]

+chemistryguy It could be a nickname that got stuck though

[@ritwik1223]

+chemistryguy Nominative determinism*.

[@Imbalanxd]

Her real name is not Ivy Mix...

[@JohnVKaravitis]

+Imbalanxd Don't take away what little dreams men may have!

[@crazwizardlizard]

this is by far one of my favorite Idea channel eps in a whilel. good going!

[@randomuser1105]

I'll be so glad when we get over this "men can only drink certain things" nonsense. I wouldn't think that being afraid of a drink would be all that masculine.

[@viljamtheninja]

+randomuser1105 "We" as a collective probably won't get over it in a long, long time, since "we" includes, well, everyone. But all those of us who already since long ARE over it can take the first, proud step, and clink our pink drinks together to show that you don't, in fact, grow boobs and start having periods as soon as you sip it - even if you lift your little finger.

[@christophercombs7561]

how about we jump the shark and stop drinking as its almost wholly detrimental to our health and survival

[@viljamtheninja]

***** Nah. That's a terrible idea.

[@FormThisWay]

+Christopher Combs Because humanity will always be bored.

[@christophercombs7561]

+the big man I get hype on adrenaline fast cars thrill rides that kind of thing sky diving looks like tons of fun the guys that do it around here will give you a discount if you bring 9 or more people I just can't find 8 more people that wanna go

[@BradSk88]

One thing Ivy mentioned, sort of in passing, that I find very important as a patron is an appreciation that she's in the "hospitality business". The difference between having a server who is "just bartending/waitressing" and one who is passionate about hospitality is night and day. It's always a pleasure to encounter the latter.

[@madiis18account]

I'm drinking $6 wine from a beer stein right now

[@xXxBladeStormxXx]

+Maddi Holmes Why not just drink tropicana fruit juice from a cardboard box instead?

[@peepslostsheep]

No alcohol in it.

[@RobertHornbek]

I re-watch this video every 6 months or so and I am still inspired to really think about the glass. Thanks for putting this together.

[@GamesFromSpace]

I think the host just wanted to drink on the job and hang out with a gorgeous lady.

[@josephineblum5506]

he said "good friends" and while he could have meant it in an interviewer way, she also remarked that they went to the same school. so if they wanted to hang out, he could probably just do it.

[@NoelleMar]

lmao

[@justinperry5355]

by gorgeous do you mean hideous

[@annathompson2399]

@@Feelthefx I'm guessing with that unfounded confidence you're a 2/10.

[@annathompson2399]

@@justinperry5355 And you're a 1/10, probably. Add some more criticism instead of being salty.

[@arturi3650]

I like her, she really seems to know what she's talking about.

[@AlanKey86]

*Fun Mathematical Fact* If a martini glass is filled so the liquid is half way up (in terms of height), the glass is only one 8th full (in terms of volume).

[@Manifestra11]

+AlanKey86 Thank you, kind stranger!

[@brokenlegend23]

That's actually really cool, thanks

[@ShanePatricTaylor]

NICE.

[@MaurDL]

I really liked how informative and well versed she was and how accessibly she was able to convey information. As an "alcohol enthusiast" this was one of my favorite episodes. Cheers. P.S. She has cool canines too. FYI.

[@VictorFrost]

This was such an amazing video. I was so fascinated by the whole of the content, but also by the production itself. I'm gonna look at and analyze the lighting because watching folks like you is how I hope to make my own videos better.

[@rubenverpalen6197]

very surprised at the level of quality of this video well done enjoyed it all the way

[@JewishMusicToronto]

I really liked this episode. It looked like a lot of fun to film as well.

[@stephendesautels3301]

This was such a fun episode! It wasn't too dramatic or heavy. It was lighthearted and legitimately interesting. Fantastic work!

[@TheRationalPi]

It's surprising that Ivy doesn't like champagne flutes. It's a perfect example of utilitarian design, because the narrow shape helps to keep the drink bubbly for longer.

[@TrackerRoo]

But given that it is a wine and you drink wine with more than just your tongue it really isn't the best glass for champagne. A regular wine glass is better so you can really enjoy the full range of flavor

[@thescowlingschnauzer]

Hold up. We're going to talk about the feminization (and therewith, the demasculinization) of the martini glass and not mention JAMES BOND?? COME ON!!

[@MPythonGirl]

+thescowlingschnauzer James Bond pre-dated Sex in the City, and therefore the mentioned "major" player in feminizing the martini glass. Besides... James Bond can make anything Manly. He could probably make an exception to his womanizing ways and sleep with a guy (receiving) and still come out looking like the most badass stud on the planet. Because he's James fucking Bond, and our delusions of the gender standards are *nothing* to him.

[@hairyneil]

+thescowlingschnauzer Yeah kinda missed a trick there!

[@michaelgrella]

The thing is, even Manhattans and Rob Roys, which are very manly drinks are also served in a Martini glass.

[@KyleWyattOnGoogle]

Mike! Three things: 1. I think it's worth mentioning how the width of the glass-rim and the shallowness of glassware limits/dictates how you can consume your drink. It kind of walks this line somewhere between silverware and orchestral director. That might seem ridiculous, but when I say silverware, I'm thinking about how chopsticks restrict how fast you can eat food, preventing you from over-eating like a massive fork might encourage. Some foods you might actually want to ear super fast (grits comes to mind) and in that case, chopsticks would be inappropriate. In both cases, the tool is making some decisions for you, regarding how you are to consume and so you would want to pair the tool with the substance best enjoyed in the way the tool itself is useful for. When I say orchestral director, I'm thinking literally: The glass-shape dictates where in your mouth that fluid goes. A really shallow martini glass (that is wider that your resting mouth) only lets very small amounts of drink to hit just the tip of the tongue-if you try to kick the drink back further into your mouth you'd end up spilling it all over either side of your face. On the opposite end, a shot glass is so tiny most folk's hand can hide the glass altogether. It's so small it's actually difficult to sip lightly from (try it). And the amount of drink in a shot glass is so little that it doesn't seem right to have to take multiple drinks: The shape of the glass encourages you to take the full amount in one motion. Also, think about how a wine glass forces your mouth into an open shape that allows the liquid to coat your tongue-much different than the narrower champaign flute that forces you to purse your lips, cause your mouth into a canyon shape the liquid travels down. That's why glassware is so varied: The drink is pared with a glass that restricts you to drinking in the way the cocktail-maker thinks it ought to be consumed. Tiny sips / big swigs. Tip of the tongue / full mouthful. I don't really see the thickness of the glass playing in, in any significant way. Now for a fun experiment, make a sidecar cocktail and drink it from a shot glass, or fill a martini glass with straight rum. Try using the wrong glass and examine how it makes you feel. 2. Champaign flutes are tall because people enjoy seeing the bubbles. Just my opinion. Drinking champaign out of, lets say, a coffee cup... it feels almost criminal. 3. You should check out Alfred Tong's The Gentleman's Guide to Cocktails. It has some misogynistic junk in there, which I'm not okay with, but I'm recommending it for the gorgeous illustrations, recipes and quips; not so much for the sexism.

[@PrecariousMutiny]

This is the best comment here, clearly stated and invites thought, Happy New Year, off to make a gin martini

[@mikeygardner]

As a Chef I Love This Episode! The way that Drinks are presented in Glassware Completely correlates to the way that Food is presented on a Plate! If One finds a dish Visually attractive, it will taste even better. One eats with Their Eyes First, and not to mention Smell! If I see an Amazing plate of food, followed by an overwhelming Smell of deliciousness, it will 9/10 times taste better than I could have ever expected. I love Ivys' passion and conviction to provide an experience for Her guests! I feel that if I can make someone smile, connect to a memory, or create a memory from the food that I create, I Win! Tips are Great, but Compliments Warm My Soul! I have 20 years experience in Restaurants and have been cooking for 30 years. Food is My Passion, I LOVE it more than (Almost) Anything! Hope You see this Same Name, Thank You for All the Hard Work!

[@chiblast100x]

+mikey gardner Great to see I'm not the only food service veteran who wanted to say essentially the same thing.

[@MatthewHenderson1]

Great comment but why do you randomly capitalize certain words periodically?

[@mikeygardner]

Just the way I type, also to Emphasize words as I would Speak. Sorry, I have Always gotten Hate about this topic!

[@bravocado]

I recommend those 7-11 big gulp cups for any and all alcoholic beverages. Now THAT'S utilitarian!

[@thefishking7582]

I don't drink, but this is still an interesting video.

[@iota-09]

+Christopher Beckstrom if you find it interesting and like animes, try watching Bartender, it's a piece of art and one of the most relaxing shows ever made.

[@TheLonleyRobot]

I think this is really interesting actually. I like learning new and obscure things like this that I would otherwise never consider. Very cool video, I hope to see more of this style in the future.

I've been following the channel for a while now, but I found this video the most interesting and well made! Thank you for it!

[@clonka]

I like the way you look like a young child really impressed about new knowledge and curious about every word and data she gives, like if it's a new discovery for you. It's wonderful, truthfully nobody could handle better PBS idea channel than you, and I believe this format really suits the channel genre, so much you should keep making the old ones and more of these, pleeeease

[@seanmcmunn88]

Great deviation from the normal videos, please do make more of these with this format

[@ragnkja]

Fun fact: Champagne was originally served in the same kind of glass as the Sonámbula (why is it called a "sleepwalker"?) is served in.

[@TroyMcElveny1]

This was super informative! I love this look at such an interesting industry when it comes to the strange complexities that have grown around the drinking culture and its glass.

[@NeonxLightsx]

I really enjoyed the dynamic between you two! You should totally do more videos with other people like this one, it was really entertaining to watch your conversation in contrast to your usual videos where you were just talking to us

[@mosthilariousgirleva]

I love how she talks.

[@Danoriel]

For bonus points, go watch an anime called "Bartender".

[@CBDroege]

Glassware is not just about the look and what pop-culture teaches us to associate with that look. Some aspects surely are, and how we feel about glassware can be shaped by pop culture, but each glass was still designed with the purpose of accentuating a particular aspect of a drink. Ivy touched on it when she mentioned one glass being better for the smell of a certain drink, but it's also about temperature and carbonation. It's about retaining, focusing, blocking, or dispersing the smell, temperature, or carbonation. Stems and handles keep your hands from changing the temperature, flared or closed rims change when and how the drink hits your nose, lowered beverage surface area keeps carbonation longer, etc. Not just cocktails either: You put coffee into a coffee mug to retain the temperature and disperse the aroma. You serve soda in a bottle to keep the carbonation in the drink and out of your nose. Beer goes in a lidded stein to keep your hand from warming it and to keep the pretzel crumbs out while it's on the table. Now... whether or not all this REALLY changes all that much about a beverage, that's a different discussion, but one which would require some kind of scientific method, since this is all a matter of taste, otherwise. The whole thing reminds me of discussions of wine temperatures and pairings. There is often a lot of talk about what is the "correct" way to serve certain wines, but you know what the best way is to serve any wine? The way you like it best. If you like your portwine over ice in a tumbler with a salt-rim, then that is the correct way for you to drink it.

[@stantonmoor]

brilliant. thanks for a very informative watch!

[@TheFlusteredCustard]

Is Ivy Mix her real name? or is it like... some kind of Bar Name, like Pen Name? That's like seeing a soccer player named Rick Header.

[@pbsideachannel]

+TheFlusteredCustard Real and actual. If we ever release an extended cut of this episode we'll include the short conversation we had about Ivy being a mixologist named "Mix" and my time as a sounder engineer named "Mike".

[@NeonJosef]

Google nominative determinism

[@yfrag]

+PBS Idea Channel Damn, better quit my job and become a black-Smith...

[@iota-09]

+PBS Idea Channel i will proceed to go on and change my name to something cool and base my future work career on that name.

[@ceulgai2817]

+d8SDavid Prepare yourself for "I'd drink that" jokes.

[@chekmaytful]

THIS WAS SUCH AN AMAZIONG VIDEO!!!!!!!!! I KNOW IM YELLING BUT IM A BARTENDER AND THIS WAS SUCH A DELIGHT!!!!!!WOOOOOO

[@mayhemplant]

this episode was really fun, i really like these special episodes that you guys make :D

[@ocanaldofonseca]

I want a full lenght documentary about this! Fascinating episode! And very classy. :)

[@aidanharper3784]

The follow on question regarding the whole emasculation thing based on glass shape is this: Why are some drinks "manly" and some drinks "effeminate"? If I want a cocktail, it's 'cause I want a drink that tastes nice. A manly drink over here in the UK is usually a bitter. Bitter is a negative adjective! That said, I love coffee with no milk and no sugar, but still, c'mon, why care about a drink's colour or container? It's a drink, drink it and be merry! Lots of people also ask in the bar where I work if they can have Stella Artois in a straight glass rather than the stemmed chalice glass branded with the Stella Artois logo, while the chalice might be termed as "curved" while a traditional glass is straight up, I'm not lying when I say I've heard people call the chalice "gay" or "bent". People need to grow the hell up, it's an alcoholic drink, you drink it to get drunk or to have a tasty drink, if it tastes good, who cares what it looks like or what shape it is.

[@christmastubbs2613]

+Evil Raptor I think it's about the message that a particular glass sends. If a guy was in a blue collar bar then ordering a dainty martini glass might make him seem like he doesn't belong, which sometimes can be a big deal.

[@aidanharper3784]

Zach Montague I guess people don't want to stick out, but it still seems strange that people should kick up a fuss over what is essentially a lidless container for a drink. I wish we stocked sippy cups at my work so if someone "doesn't want the bent glass" I could give them a baby cup and tell them to grow up. Ah a man can dream.

[@IstasPumaNevada]

I don't like the taste, smell, effects, or cost of alcohol, but this was still quite interesting to me. Well done, both of you and everyone behind the scenes. :)

[@uberman54533]

This idea warrants its own channel! This was incredible! I've had a heck of a time finding something of this quality on this subject. In short: MOAR

[@QuantumLoopNinja]

LOVE this format, more please!

[@vigliottec]

If you really want to know about why certain cocktails use certain glasses 1. Dont watch this video. 2. Google Good Eats Raising the Bar. 3. Profit.

[@Thyassasin99]

but im only watching this vid for the girl

[@raashiraghunath6889]

I loved this video, what an interesting take on a matter I didn't even know I wanted to know more about until I saw this! And she was such a pleasure to listen to! :D

[@yankeelongshoreman9113]

Champagne was originally served in a coupe glass, but it was found that it went flat quickly due to the large surface area. The champagne flute was invented to solve this problem by reducing the surface area, with the added benefit of concentrating the aromas at the mouth. The reason the flute has become associated with high class is because champagne is, traditionally at least, very expensive which is what is usually served in that glass.

[@ViewtifulSam]

The cinematography in this video is gorgeous!

[@billmalcolm4291]

If I do get a cocktail and it appears a little less than masculine, I like to jump right into the irony and get myself an umbrella to go with it. If it's extra feminine, I increase the number of umbrellas for every unit of perceived femininity. You could definitely argue that I am still made somewhat uncomfortable by having a feminine looking drink, but I deal with that discomfort by making a joke out of it. On that note, I think JD's classic drink order from Scrubs (appletini, easy on the tini) makes for a good joke when ordering something on the feminine side.

[@MysteriousAznDuDe]

All this talk about cocktails and personality reminds me of the anime Bartender. It's kinda slow but enjoyable on a slow night

[@ElVindicto]

This was AMAZING. I'm actually a cocktail bartender so I may be a little biassed here but I loved the way in which this was presented as well as the music and the subject matter of course. Ivy was such a natural, I'm a perfect world I'd love to see her have her own show wherein she talks about stuff related to bartending and night life but I know there's only so much magic in the world. regardless, great episode

[@86fuser]

The very thin Venetian glassware became popular among the European aristocracy essentially not because it was "disposable" (and thus showed wealth), but because drinking from it without breaking required a delicate hand. This in turns was associated with wealth (a farmer would have break all the glasses). At the same time it is believed that their introduction among courts was pushed by the princesses and queens, in order to "educate" the rough man.

[@Rhaifha]

I thought the glasses also had something to do with the alcohol content (and thus how much you drink of it) and if it's supposed to be cold or room temp (whether your hands touch the actual vessel warming your drink or just the stem)..

[@cmckee42]

As a non-drinker, this episode goes straight over my head.

[@cybernakulum]

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[@hathejoker]

+Christopher McKee The video is more about glassware and how people's perception is changed through popular media like movies and tv shows.

[@cmckee42]

hathejoker It is about how people perceive glassware when they are served something in it. If you don't drink alcohol, you have to go pretty far out of your way to find any drink served in something other than a water glass.

[@joujou264]

You guys just can't resist mentioning it, huh? Every good thing has its loudmouths that do it for the wrong reasons. But maybe I'm drawing conclusions too early, do you really not have anything to add? You drink liquids, surely? So you're presumably able to talk about the differences between glassware for these liquids?

[@cmckee42]

***** Yes, I drink liquid from glassware, but when a drink is not alcoholic, with very rare exception, all beverages are served in the same glass, which runs contrary to the title of the video.

[@sassafras_smith]

Oh man, do I love me some symbolism of everyday items. How a show like Sex and The City appropriated the masculine martini glass of Bond fame to become the glass of the drink of the show about four women. Also love that you featured a women and she just shared her cool knowledge - I would like to think this is a nod to yesterday and the month.

[@RossLlewallyn]

I really appreciate this video. I don't drink for a number of complicated reasons, but one of them is that I find this world of alcoholic drinks to be massively complex in ways that I generally don't or haven't appreciated. It has always seemed like a lot of decoration on top of a pretty base goal of getting inebriated. I'm sure that's not a fair characterization, and that's my problem, probably from my recent context of college. This video, though, was very, very refreshing. It feels like an entry point for me to learn to appreciate a kind of art form, a history, and a representation of our values and beliefs about gender and class. It shouldn't be surprising to me that learning a bunch of ancillary facts about a subject gets me interested. That happens all the time! I just really liked how relaxed and unassuming this conversation was. I felt like as a complete novice I could join in to learn and understand what's being shared. An additional aspect that made it comfortable was that Ivy was willing to challenge convention by criticizing the way things have developed. I find the culture of drinking to be one with far too many assumptions for me to even enter into ("You'd drink X at Y hour in a Z glass?! Gross!"), and her comments shook off some of that rigidity. This was a fantastic change of pace and a breath of fresh air. One of the best episodes of Idea Channel. Genuinely.

[@lasagnahog7695]

Being insecure about drink after having ordered it is incredibly ironic, it only serves to call in to question the thing you don't want called in. No one has ever seen a dude return a pink a drink and thought "Oh man, that guy is so straight, he won't even drink a pink drink"

[@Stars-Mine]

+Eric Loesch I love my "bitch" drinks. I mean, I love my wood flavored alcohol, but sometimes I just want some fruity alcohol.

[@sinecurve9999]

KZbin brought to your tube by the fine people at Squarespace. I can barely hear you, make it more Audible.... I'll be here all week, folks....

[@directr4288]

+sinecurve9999 if you need help, just ask lynda

[@mrwednesday687]

Have YOU slept on a Casper© mattress?

[@jonesnj07]

raed me mind

[@ghostbirdofprey]

BRILLIANT .org

[@zoobMer]

for me, the main purpose of drinkware was always communicative. if a drink is fruity, for example, you want it served in a very floral looking cup to communicate that; this includes both smoothies and cocktails. high caffeine drinks look best in . ceramic container, while alcohol and sugar look better in glass. rounder cups communicate a softer drink than sharper shapes, which is why you never want hot chocolate in a cubic mug, but never want coffee in spherical mug. there is so much involved really. I might send you a picture of my smoothy cup over twitter.

[@rafael17264]

really enjoyed watching this,thanks!

[@thedarkercarter]

Damn now I want to go out for cocktails.

[@MPKampersand]

Because if you did that, you would 't be able to fit them all in!

[@LibertyLikes]

Haha!!

[@youngboy9697]

I was thinking the exact same thing when I read the title XD

[@scottgoblue]

This was great! Mike, you're really good at the interview/conversational format. The variety of glassware must be tough on inventory. My friend owns a Belgian Beer Bar here in SF, and she has to be super vigilant about all the specialty glasses - not only are they expensive and take up a lot of space, but people try to steal them.

[@carlosadeleon]

It would seem that talk about wine and wine glasses would be a great topic to discuss with a bartender and yet it didn't come up. It's my understanding that part of a piece of glassware's job is to encourage the right way to hold certain drinks. For instance, champagne flutes encourage the patron to hold the drink by the stem so as to not warm the chilled champagne. Some red wines are meant to be drunk at warmer temperatures and so you hold the bell of the glass in the palm of your hand. I think your talk with Ivy did a great job describing how the glassware impacts the drink in our heads, but I would have liked to see how a glass can also impact the way you physically interact with a drink. Also, isn't there some chemistry here as well? Things like the creating maximum surface area for wine to breathe (hence the very flared bells of some wine glasses) versus wanting something narrow to allow the carbon dioxide to slowly bubble up (keeping the sparkling wine, sparkly longer?)

[@MunchMyDong]

The Champagneglass is not silly and serves a very important purpose, without it it would be very difficult to smell the bouquet from the first glass poured and from the glasses thereafter. Same with wine, the glass direkts and focuses the smell which is very important... try drinking champagne from a normal glass and you'll see what i mean.

[@taxdragon]

+MunchMyDong Yup, I was going to mention that. Also, the Champagne flute is narrow. The amount of Champagne exposed to air is limited. It helps preserve those bubbles that the vintner went to great length to produce.

[@samuroot]

What an Interesting video! I loved it.

[@mickgilbo]

I unfortunately can't remember many specifics, but it was brought to my attention (while working in a cafe) that the type of vessel a coffee (and by extension, other drinks) comes in makes a difference to its taste via how and how much air you take in with the drink. I believe if you incorporate air into the drink as you drink it, it allows for more of the flavours to reach your receptors. With tall, narrow mouthed vessels, you tend to pour the liquid into your mouth, incorporating little air, and reducing flavour. Short narrow mouthed vessels, you tend to sip from, which incorporates more air. While with short, wide mouthed vessels, you tend to draw the air in as a method of drawing in the liquid. The analogy was explained to me thusly; although a standard latte and a standard cappuccino have the same ratio of espresso to milk, to milk foam, lattes often taste milkier because you're not drawing in as much air, and are not giving the flavours of the coffee enough room to manifest.

[@GregPoblete]

This was a cool type of episode. I like these interviews.

[@UnfortunateFreakNo1]

I really like this format! I'm sure there was plenty of inspiration drawn from the Speakeasy format from AWE me, but I'm okay with that. TBH sometimes I have trouble focusing when it's just you talking to the camera, the cadence that you (an many others) use while monologue-ing on youtube just kinda puts me off. Plus, I really like interviews with people who are knowledgeable and passionate in their field.

[@PariTheNotsoMerciful]

Great video! Should do more like these.

[@pbsideachannel]

+PariTheNotsoMerciful Thanks! Would love to. I wanna do one in a similar style about *car design*. I find it so fascinating!

[@PariTheNotsoMerciful]

+PBS Idea Channel Yay! Looking forward to it.

[@iota-09]

+PBS Idea Channel corvettes, do corvettes! they're the epythome of car design for me(at least before the stingray and most modern zr1) and what brought me to finally start working on getting a license. getting back on the video, i really wish there were Bars(not bars, the ones that sell stuff to eat in the morning and/or as aperitif, im talking about bars that specify only on drinks, and not "also" on drinks) like that in italy, after watching the anime bartender i got really interested in them, even though i never drink any form of alcohol(except the liquor in babas and cakes)

[@BlueRoseFaery]

I know for me personally, the vessel I drink or eat out of and the utensils I use can have a big impact on my enjoyment. A small scoop of a rich chocolate ice cream in a small desert glass with a small spoon is far more enjoyable & satisfying than a big serving of the same ice cream out of a plastic bowl & using a soup spoon. Eating & drinking is an experience, not just a chore. A quick shower will get you as clean as a long relaxing bath, so viewing it as a chore you should choose the shower & most usually do, but it's nice to elevate a simple process, like bathing or eating, to an experience of enjoyment rather than just a task that must be done, even if only on occasion.

[@MK.5198]

As someone who's been interested in mixology for quite a while, this was a really interesting video to watch! There's a lot more to it than I initially had in mind, and watching this makes me want to explore it even more.