Why aren't Slow Mo Guys videos 60fps?

[@R3fug333]

I like how you explain it so everyone can understand it. A lot of people don't give you enough credit. You're quite intelligent.

[@Bobo_Tapia]

Yet, some people are still confused in the comments... It's baffling.

[@PekaCheeki]

people don't give him enough credit? HA, dan is the one who should be getting the love, but somehow he isn't

[@ThelouwseFD]

OP is talking about the fact that Gavin is known as the dumb one in the Achievement Hunter community. Gavin is in fact really really smart and knows what he's doing. Don't get me wrong I love Dan but Gavin can shoot à Slow mo guys video without him, Dan probably can't shoot a slow mo guys video without Gavin.

[@ollienova250]

PhantomSavage Majority of the time in AH videos Gavin is just playing his "stupid" character, thus he has to do dumb things to play his part.

[@pablomendez4478]

R3fug33 he is and that makes me think what the hell was Gavin was on when he said "does rock float on lava"

[@Eulsam_FZ]

Most polite way I've ever heard someone say "No, f*** you, you're wrong." haha

[@TotallyNotJiminy]

English Life

[@FoolyFlys]

“Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.” - Winston Churchill

[@jesusnthedaisychain]

My new favorite quote.

[@Blox117]

it was not at all what he intended or else he would not have explained it. idiot.

[@Blox117]

jesusnthedaisychain Cry more bitch

[@guitarliam5]

Achievement hunter Gavin - Dumb at games, hilarious to watch, makes me laugh my arse off Slow Mo Gavin - Extremely knowledgeable, smart, hilarious to watch. all round top guy! love you Gav!

[@ThelouwseFD]

he's just awesome !

[@rahulujjal8245]

was just about to comment the same thing. I think he has split personality, still love him!

[@robertoliver8289]

Screech500 Careful there man. Your nose is getting a bit brown there.

[@raymondrahner]

I suck at most video games but Im pretty good when it comes to cameras. I guess its what you are into or comes naturally..

[@moviemaker2011z]

well on his channel he can practice and run off a memorized script. like how the physics works, or explaining what we might see.

[@drthvrdr]

Now this man has the ultimate secret for extended watchtime

[@pleaseimjustahuman]

While still being less than ten minutes

[@Bigma6400]

and still under 10 minutes

[@SmarterEveryDay2]

You're a smart dude Mr. Free.

[@andersoncampbell5083]

Patrick Ross the same dude on achievement hunter right?

[@TheTintedHalo]

Patrick Ross Make that 2 that recognize the name. :3

[@FishSnackems]

Smarter Every Day 2 Hello Destin

[@BottomOfTheDumpsterFire]

He is actually smart, he just can't phrase things right (may be related to his health issues, stroke, etc) and he tends to try and make things more for entertainment rather than logic.

[@layerdballoonswe]

Smarter Every Day 2 check out rooster teeth podcasts and that proofs he is pretty dumb

[@taofledermaus]

NOW, what are people going to complain about?

[@10175978]

"Why are all the money shots so damn slow? I have shit to do!"

[@Robopony9901]

This same exact thing. Because despite Gav having years of experience with not only filming with the phantoms, but making videos out of that raw footage; people think they know better than him.

[@Yonatan24]

How'd he remember that? Where'd he read all of that from?!

[@Sekushiwolf]

How clouds look like Republicans and it triggers them.

[@rlogskaptein8873]

whoooaaaa its taofledermaus, ive seen your comments everywhere recently, i like how active you are

[@floppaquest4916]

Gave on slomoguys: *intelligent gibberish*. Gav on RT: does babies float?

[@Jimmy-fj6xj]

*Gav*

[@Gruvmpy]

its dem super slow camera, makes ya brain good

[@THE_SOSC]

Gave

[@Galaxy_J]

Papa Glow Eyes jah

[@qalbi-s_Ahnfy2095]

*do babies float

[@benjamin-papa]

the human eye can only see 90mhz of RAM per nanosecond

[@hex7329]

I really like this comment.

[@EdoG4m3r]

VRAM ECC*

[@sebastiangonzalezschwidrow603]

The human eye can only see 70 guys per buddy (south park reference)

[@durchschnittlich]

What's that in mcdonalds per bald eagle?

[@sylviarohge4204]

@Soulkeeper The statement is wrong. You can not train your sense of sight to work faster. What you can train is a faster pattern recognition that activates automatic processes during detection (and thus avoids consciousness, which saves a lot of time). These processes are similar to the movement memory as it occurs, for example, in martial arts. The conscious evaluation of image information takes time and therefore represents the limiting factor in perception. Since the brain can keep only at most 16% of its neurons active at the same time (higher values exceed the supply capacity for sugar and oxygen), the only way to react faster is the outsourcing of processes into automated actions.

[@woonam]

It's amazing how intelligent Gavin can seem in Slow Mo Guys videos, but the second he steps into a game with Michael, Ray and the rest of Achievement Hunter everything goes out the window and the bird noises start

[@jerek7999]

"Ray and the rest of Achievement Hunter" What a sad day.

[@iv4149]

whos ray

[@tannerrienbolt5248]

Dude, Ray died....

[@iv4149]

Eggo Jefferson *yes*

[@jonontomin]

Too soon, man.

[@spartan1010101]

I find it interesting that Gav is so articulated when he's on Slowmoguys but at RT they just show when he does dumb shit lol

[@addisonshinedown]

spartan1010101 because he's actually very intelligent, but it's funnier to say whatever comes to mind

[@spartan1010101]

yeh lol

[@Justin-K]

I wonder if he has cue cards to read from behind the camera

[@alphahunter4791]

spartan1010101 Maybe his personality changes because RT is more of a social, laid back setting then SMG

[@blackstag9366]

I'm pretty sure that here he has a filter, whereas at RT he literally spouts whatever nonsense British fecal matter that busts its way into his mind. I do the same, I stay extremely composed and front myself as a collected individual in tense situations whereas at home or playing games with friends I'm known as the stupidest mofo to ever open his mouth.

[@chancesq]

You uploaded this at 1080 50 lmao, that is amazing!

[@deathab0ve]

what's amazing? Video from the UK is 50fps not 60 so that's just normal.

[@chancesq]

It's amazing because people are bitching for 60fps and he posts it in 50.

[@Danbenford]

You know what, I commented about it being 50fps too and then I realised I had completely missed the entire point of the video, sorry about that..

[@OsamaRana]

A) 25 isn't a _factor_ of 60 :) B) how'd you accommodate the 18 fps then?

[@pablomendez4478]

Osama Rana A) that's why he doesn't do 60 fps

[@namemycactus]

Listening to someone talk about their passion and knowledge is always so interesting and now I know new things :)

[@BryceJonathan]

When gavin said "I dont even shoot at 30 fps". Me: Yeah you obviously shoot at 24 fps. Gavin: I shoot at 25 fps Me: God dammit, so close

[@davidhrzenjak]

Bryce Jonathan same

[@MrThePhotoshopper]

Bryce Jonathan fuckin exact same

[@petercorr784]

Bryce Jonathan I thought 24 too lol. Isn't that what movies and TV play at (24fps)

[@BryceJonathan]

Peter Corr Yeah but now there are some movies being shot at 48fps The hobbit was one of the first to do it, a lot of people are not big fans.

[@CIubDuck]

I thought 25 because 50hz is standard in Europe, 50/2=25

[@adamhanly5250]

Sad you had to explain yourselves to the noobs, but glad you did.

[@adamhanly5250]

and by sad i mean, im weeping and heaving.

[@adamhanly5250]

no sense of humor eh?

[@LarsMacReady]

Slow Mo Guys Gavin: Intellectual who knows his stuff about film Achievement Hunter Gavin: Squeaking bird man

[@xXFeralArtsXx]

When he showed us that live difference between 30 and 60 fps I was actually a bit blown away, never realised how much of a difference it is xDD

[@FTLnovaKid]

I know right. Lol 🤣

[@katebaldwin1246]

Gavin should be a teacher. He explains things so well

[@layerdballoonswe]

Kate Baldwin go watch the rooster teeth podcasts and then you know he cant explain things

[@bazookapenguinz3376]

Kate Baldwin No he dosent

[@ThatDarnGamer1]

Are you two fucking idiots? He acts dumb on Rooster Teeth.

[@tricks8370]

Ha yeah right I don't think we should have little Gavin frees in the world, one's enough already as it is. Also slow motion is the only thing he knows like... ever. Go watch the let's play - battlefront 2 video and see how clueless he is about a fucking movie, they even made a little animation for it too

[@CharlesGarwood]

Tricks Yeah I think that conversation might be played up abut, like Gavin just said something dumb to make the video more entertaining and the others just played along. Kinda like the 2nd Minecraft lets play where he knew people were gonna be quiet trying to setup the achievement so he decided to get pissed to make the video more entertaining.

[@joeldude1998]

it's hilarious when you see Gavin act stupid in achievement hunter then make us all look stupid on slow mo guys.

[@deadchannel3274]

It's because he knows what he's talking about when it comes to slow motion video, but doesn't have much prowess in many other subjects.

[@backyardbasher]

Gavin you would make an excellent Doctor Who, you are already a Time Lord!

[@jetpackdino5703]

This video is at 50fps. God damn it

[@jamescalver8993]

So that he can show the difference between 30fps and 60fps when he waves his arms....

[@nihil2855]

@@jamescalver8993 2 iq

[@vip3r_hd210]

@@nihil2855 nah u have 1 iq - 1 so shut up bruv yeah fam?

[@vip3r_hd210]

BurgerKing Wifi bro you’re mad funny shit yo Instagram normie ass up

[@devonsumner9958]

IT'S NOT SLO MO

[@dannutt5701]

Gav on the Slow Mo Guys - "Differing playback and shooting frame rates is what causes the human eye to perceive the footage as slower" Gav on RT - "Does rocks float on lava?"

[@Firedoesminecraft]

"People like grapes."

[@cameronpalermo8759]

"Can babies float?"

[@dandun001]

The thing with Gav is, he is really smart. And all these random funny thoughts he brings up on RT are just proof that his mind is always processing all sorts of bizarre thoughts that make him smarter. His problem is that he has hard time putting these thoughts into coherent sentences that dont sound funny. In this video he obviously prepared all his material and rehearsed, which is why his intelligence is much more apparent. RT = Gav just speaking his mind with no preparation. Slo Mo = Gav got his material studied and prepared in advance.

[@mrkthmn]

What's RT?

[@xerosilvrmun]

mrkthmn roosterteeth

[@rikifps]

1080p50...not complaining..its just..ive never seen that before.

[@rikifps]

No dont own anything that has 4k support

[@LewisLetsPlay]

It's PAL :) Us Brits use 50 hertz and 50 fps as apposed to 60 hertz and 60 fps that US use. He explain in the video around the middle part.

[@joshmaster1997]

LMH what do you mean by we use 50hz and 50fps in eng?

[@LewisLetsPlay]

Joshua Reed it started like this because older CRT displays used to utilize the alternations in the electricity that came from the socket to produce a new frame on TV. that's why if you ever played an old games console on a CRT TV and selected the wrong refresh rate it just wouldn't display or would be black and white.

[@joshmaster1997]

LMH but we dont use 50hz or 50fps anymore :/

[@jakeh7572]

Got dammit guys. Cheeky little buggers uploaded in 50 fps

[@whereswaldo333]

Jake H "There isn't a single video on this channel uploaded at 60 fps" -Gavin Free

[@orcishh]

William He was talking about their main channel not second. Their most recent video on this channel- "Diamond Play Button Prank" is 4k 60fps

[@whereswaldo333]

ORcisH have you considered that 2 months ago my comment was true?

[@orcishh]

William Waldo Ill prove you wrong when I get home

[@whereswaldo333]

ORcisH does it matter? Will it make you feel bigger for having proven a pointless thing to someone?

[@kurtmace6532]

I could listen to Gavin explaining camera stuff all day long

[@tomatoflight]

Can you make a KZbin channel called the timelapse guys?

[@sensibleb]

Because there are already two channels on KZbin with that name.

[@hawk_202]

Sensi Bleb And im sure there are fifty thousand called pewdiepie does that stop anyone? Secondly I doubt they ene want to make timelaspes, I mean its literally the polar opposite but again just because someone has the name on youtube it does not mean they own it.

[@tomatoflight]

welp, I still rest my case that they should make a time lapse channel

[@Thromper1984]

It's a good idea, but I feel they'd run out of things to film. The videos themselves would be a lot slower, because in slow-mo, you watch them get all prepared and actually film it. With time-lapse, they'd set the camera up, say "Okay, we'll see you in a day/week/month", and that's it. I can see it being a nice little side video they do time to time, but not worth it to make a full on channel dedicated for it.

[@moviemaker2011z]

challenge excepted

[@GregPivo87]

Now I kinda want to see an anti-Slow Mo Guys that does time lapse videos. Time Lapse Chaps? TLC for short - they might go chasing waterfalls, or they might just be a couple of scrubs, guys who think they're fly but they're also known as bustas.

[@msfattytroll]

Baron Coal fucking lol, underrated comment right here

[@stewietravis187]

in other words: slow mo guys wont be so slow mo with 60fps videos

[@ghostzz.]

yup, they would just cut the slowmo by half

[@Foxtrot6624]

Well they use 50fps now because technology has increased so much that they can record stiff twice as fast

[@mrartistimo1530]

Foxtrot6624 I think they just changed that for this video to show off the difference but I may be wrong...

[@Foxtrot6624]

@@mrartistimo1530 Nope it's on every new video now

[@xl000]

they could, but the would have to shoot 60/25 = 2.4 more frames per second.

[@mybloodythanksgiving3040]

This the same dude that said “does rocks float on lava”

[@JohnDoe-dj3lw]

yep

[@AFriendlyTheo]

@F a The context and manner in which it was asked. I believe it was either one of the Achievement Hunter GTA V videos, or one of the more tedious Minecraft videos. You can look up the exact clip by googling the question in youtube * nevermind it was the podcast; kzbin.info/www/bejne/npW4g51rp5qiZ80

[@raymondxu5036]

@F a Density is relative. It's dense compared to air, but maybe not osmium.

[@raymondxu5036]

@F a You used the word dense. Quoting you: "also the guy who said that water is really dense sounds pretty dumb, because water is not really dense" Yes, density is absolute, I'll concede that I made a typo there, but he's technically not wrong to say that water is dense. Mercury is denser than water, but oil is not.

[@Kiproll26]

I never even noticed until this video, but I'm glad I came and found out

[@Kiproll26]

and just to illustrate how little I've thought about it, I'm replying to myself to say that's probably because I live in Australia

[@Sirake]

... wut?

[@rockon609]

I can't believe they actually got harassed enough that they basically had to sit their viewers down and talk it out.

[@src248]

I tried to explain this in the comments once and people got super pissed off :P

[@ZerotheWanderer]

Yup, it's sad. It's a pretty simple thing that he went into great detail with.

[@Ghrostillo]

Steven Chabot It's the same with videos that display more likes than views in the first seconds. KZbin logic, KZbin is dumb, KZbin needs to fix that... All what needs to be fixed is the people's mind but they refuse and post the same shit over and over again

[@darkcage90]

where is this comment you posted so i can share this video and give you justice

[@turkyandgravy]

If I'm understanding correctly either you can lower the resolution and have higher frame rates, or vice versa. Since the slow motion camera is 4k and a small minority of people have 4k monitors, yet all monitors can pump out at least 60fps, it makes sense to record in 60fps. It would look good on nearly any monitor and have smooth frame rates.

[@umbralkni]

+Ryan Mattox Resolution and framerate are two totally separate facets of cinematography. A higher framerate does not increase the resoluiton, or vice versa. Watch the video again carefully, and note the fact that he is not recording at 60fps, or 30fps, or even 25fps. He is recording at 1000+fps. The *playback* is what is at 25fps, and this is where he gets into the issue of a higher playback framerate decreasing the rate of slowdown to human perceptions.

[@MrScootify]

I've seen you guys answer this question multiple times, and I feel like it won't be the last. At least you have somewhere to point people to shut them up now.

[@TheSlowMoGuys2]

That's the point of the video for sure. It was also fun to make.

[@Frankestein01nl]

Well done Gav.

[@holymonkeygod]

Also fun to watch!

[@FriendlyMxdder]

$100k camera that is the ultimate flex.

[@Arkatox]

I mean his channel is built around that shit.

[@mitchellroberts7954]

100k is cheap. The optics and payloads for high end military aircraft and drones are more than 50% of the cost, if not more. It's not uncommon to have a 2-3 million dollar payload on a $500k drone

[@MikkeMan]

@@mitchellroberts7954 yeah, 100k is cheap. I'd rather spend at least a million for a camera.

[@Arkatox]

@@mitchellroberts7954 $100k is just cheap in general. It's like no money at all.

[@yasicajes5074]

Arkatox I hate u

[@jacksonrhoads3785]

i like how smart gavin sounds on slo mo guys compared to ah

[@anonymousally9783]

This comment is heavily underrated.

[@deadliftpepper8446]

I know right every time I watch rt and ah it’s hilarious

[@hequek2659]

ye they're fun

[@jlaw131985]

He plays a character

[@BrimmJobb]

@@jlaw131985 yea the forever dumb and young gavin.

[@theeditors5796]

You just blew my mind with how smart you are. I mean anyone could figure that out but you explained it so well and told everyone off that thinks 60 fps would be better.

[@imajeenyus42]

Best explanation of framerates/timelapse stuff I've heard!

[@Godhand-gi6ic]

As someone very ignorant filming and FPS, this was a very nice, and easy to understand lesson into FPS. Thanks, Gav!

[@chebaca8]

Gavin seems like he knows what hes talking about. Hes a smart brit.

[@MattBee2k2]

He has worked in the film industry for like 10 years now i'm sure.

[@iNotAnHacker]

Che Alejandro Watch Achievement Hunter and you will realize that you are very wrong, or many rt animated adventures

[@joshmaster1997]

NotAHacker you can be an idiot but smart on a specific subject at the same time, this is one of those cases

[@PaulZeroSolis]

+NotAHacker Gavin is intelligent. It's just that he's so intelligent that some of the things he says don't get filtered before he says them, and they come out sounding idiotic. "Does rocks float on lava?" isn't the blathering of an idiot, it's the ravings of a genius.

[@iNotAnHacker]

Paul Solis how much rooster teeth do you watch?

[@frosts1956]

Geoff 100% pays Gavin to act stupid for comic effect, kind of sad with the fact that some people genuinely think hes stupid haha

[@cameronwarder2328]

FrostiFreeze he's still an awesome guy regardless

[@CloudsSingASong]

FrostiFreeze it's the difference between being stupid and silly - he's silly

[@orcman44]

Could just be he's smart, just not at video games.

[@tipsycat27]

No, GAVIN makes the decision to act goofy in RT videos... he knows that it's funny and that the character he plays works with the AH groups' other personalities. I honestly don't think videos would be quite as successful if he was being Slow Mo Gavin all the time.

[@PK-mt7zx]

FrostiFreeze nah I recon his brain just works differently. Like he's not stupid he just says weird shit

[@mcnt9506]

in honor of the video, please replay the video in o.5 speed

[@craigburkey370]

Thank you, now he sounds totally wasted! LOL Worth it!

[@ItsJustGilly]

Hahaha he sounds so wasted indeed!😂

[@Poolie]

But this video is not even at 60 fps, it is at 50 fps

[@Redlbex]

Exactly, so it would be played at 25 fps. What point are you trying to make?

[@Poolie]

It seemed like he was trying to make it be played at 30 fps but it would be 25

[@健康和娛樂節目]

thanks for you two's creativity and hard work over the years ! It gave me many leisure and eye-opening experience !

[@TheSurvivalSecrets]

From this perspective it looks like there is a 3 inch gap between the wall and the table you're squeezing into :p

[@tommyglodo4495]

Smart Gavin wearing a people like grapes shirt. It's so confusing

[@chungsteroppa]

Tommy Glodo then a million dollars but shirt haha

[@GregPivo87]

People Like Grapes was a brilliant idea. The guy made a million dollars!

[@zachcate7102]

For those wondering what he means when he says the cameras are extremely expensive, when the Phantom V2511 came out in 2014 the stock configuration was $150,000. It’s not feasible to own one of these cameras as a regular person that’s why they always borrow them

[@iijj]

from whom?

[@Xyler94]

@@iijj when they started out, Gavin used to borrow the cameras from the production studio he worked for. But nowadays, I think Gavin owns the cameras he uses, or he borrows them right from Phantom themselves.

[@RandomCarrot2806]

@@Xyler94 He's mentioned that he borrows one from Destin from Smarter Every Day in a bunch of videos.

[@DevilesEye1088]

I absolutely love you guys.. I enjoy every piece of your footage.. since day one !! Thanks for existing and creating these amazing videos

[@Wolfrevan]

I didn't know any of that, but I never complained either because I figured they knew better than me what they were doing and why they were doing it. Thank's Gavin for the explanation.

[@Oly1y]

Snyper Gaming "you didn't know? you must be a fucking moron. your skull must be so dense" - pompous fuck who thinks this stuff is common knowledge

[@Wolfrevan]

Oly1y hah, yup sounds about right actually!

[@miguelbailey95]

Oly1y 1. its not common knowledge. 2. this person is not a moron. he is someone who has not learned it yet or probably does not need to know. 3. by saying that he is a moron for not knowing "common knowledge" that makes you a moron as well. that makes me a moron and everyone on this planet a moron. think before you act

[@Oly1y]

Tailor Redhoof it went right over your pretty little head, didn't it?

[@mattshnoop]

So your examples of 1080p60 were actually in 50FPS, right? Because that's the PAL Version of "Double Speed?" The video settings says 50.

[@mattshnoop]

LOL I see you've already answered this question down below.

[@TheSlowMoGuys2]

Yeah. It's actually 60fps footage in a 50fps timeline. The actual comparative speeds are still accurate. Because I'm comparing 25 to 60, I had to make the decision for either the 25fps footage to repeat frames or the 60fps to skip frames. Due to the fact that 60 and 50 are both so smooth looking, a 50fps time-base better illustrates my point of why i typically choose 25.

[@ErickGTRZ]

The Slow Mo Guys 2 o

[@SamuraiBonesie]

The Slow Mo Guys 2 I think this is the most interested Ive ever been while talking about cameras; good job dudes!

[@gamerserver1]

Exactly

[@mrsem6670]

Great now record a bread getting wet

[@yourmumcommunist8893]

with toast

[@oceanside9508]

Tmartn - Sponsored by CSGOLotto , Hey Trevor! Still scamming kids, deceiving and lying?

[@unpaintedcanvas]

Walter White Hey, Walter! Still making blue meth, deceiving and lying to your family?

[@godofcrap42]

Record A bread. Not bread plural, bread singular. Just one single bread.

[@klieu90210]

Just "bread", not "a bread". It is an uncountable noun.

[@mikeg3283]

"hey slo-mo guys, why u not fast" *pokes stick angrily*

[@Louylou187]

I love how he can be the dunbass of AH but in reality he really smart

[@bazookapenguinz3376]

Louy Lou He's probably wrote a script

[@bikefusion1773]

Bazooka Penguinz

[@matthewrandell5055]

Bazooka Penguinz How does that make him not smart?

[@GrouchyGander]

A truly intelligent person can turn their intelligence off when they don't need it.

[@jaxonh.6330]

He's or the contraction he is.

[@_multiverse_]

People, dont argue with Gavin...you will lose.

[@lambdafn1776]

Haters thinking they're superior with their tech savvy getting rekt.

[@logitech4873]

Well that depends what you argue, doesn't it. He's not some god of divine knowledge - this is very basic camera science.

[@lukeperryglover]

Yeah, ask any other member of Achievement Hunter. haha

[@ANameToGoBy]

Gavin: *provides a sensible and intelligent reasoning for his shooting methods* "See, he smort!" Also Gavin: "Forty times slower!" *holds up five fingers*

[@Improbabilities]

Dunno ’A thumb is not a finger’ is a very strange classification. If ’thumb’ is not a subcategory of ’finger’, does that also mean feet only have four toes? If so, what is the fifth one called? Also, is this true for species without opposable thumbs? Does a bear’s front paws have four fingers and a thumb?

[@serioussam2033]

They are not really smart. Could just interpolate the missing 35 frames.... And i'm an amateur saying that.... You can even do massive slomo with 60fps standard cameras....

[@aislingoda6026]

@@Dunno.. words have more than one definition depending on use case, not all english is technical language. using 'finger' to include the thumb dates back before the times of Old English, and it's believed that it could be a descendant of the PIE word pentwe- meaning five. yeah, it can be a useful distinction, but there's no need to go correcting everyone on it to sate some smug sense of self-superiority when that's not how language works.

[@ConradLarsonGaming]

@@aislingoda6026 Definition descriptive not prescriptive. Regardless of history the current definition of a word follows common usage. So why not try and clean it up by distinguishing fingers and thumbs as above.

[@aislingoda6026]

@@ConradLarsonGaming and from a descriptive standpoint, so many people will gladly say you have 10 fingers, and will not get upset with you for holding up five fingers on one hand when you're asked to hold up five fingers

[@yorzengaming]

One of the most accurate and simple to understand video I have ever seen. I LIKE WHAT U GOT. GOOD JOB!

[@tyreller7]

This video is a tutorial on how to make haters feel stupid

[@Heavywall70]

Can't people just enjoy an awesome video without questioning the expertise that produced the awesome video. I find these vids fascinating myself.

[@bobowon5450]

I thought he already went over this when youtube first made the 60fps change

[@knavishroot1238]

Lots of people cover this topic multiple times, because the thickness of the average viewers skull is a whole fucking kilometer.

[@cyh4031]

I've only found your channel in the last week, and have found it very facinating. Also, though I've not done much professional videography, I would LOVE to, so this technical information today has been especially of interest to me. Hope to see more of this mixed in from time to time. Sadly, you are going to get what we call, "arm chair quarterbacks", regardless of what you do and how good you are at what you do, people who think they know more than you, but in most cases, don't have a clue. You were spot on regarding the frame rate issue...thanks for sharing!

[@SongZee]

Or a better explanation: We view some videos at 60 FPS so our eye can catch fast moving things on the screen with less motion blur, however when watching the Slowmo Guys they show slow moving footage, rarely motion blur is displayed, so over 25 FPS is not necessary.

[@rednax3788]

Is it weird I knew why but I still watched?

[@DamienDarksideBlog]

Hey you learned about different frame rates within regions. I kind of knew it but this clarified it for me.

[@patsal1948]

I've watched this like 3 times, just because I like hearing Gavin talk.

[@BintonGaming]

no, in fact, this is the second time im watching this lol

[@shanespicerbsb]

when he did the hand waving, it was the same

[@ponnannakb]

Me too

[@novaro7846]

Why did this get recommended to me three years later

[@kroneyt1493]

Can we just acknowledge the fact that Gavin is wearing the "People like grapes" shirt here?

[@ItsLoey]

hearing Gavin speaking technical about slow motion is interesting, I kinda want some more videos about it

[@sparkie1j]

can we have more videos like this gav?

[@PuzzlePicture]

Thank you for educating the naive amongst us, for me “slow mo” was enough to understand. That’s all I wanted to know for a while. Then this video came along explaining the nitty details of how the background time calculations work out into an interesting viewing, thanks to a guy explaining the boring gearbox of a camcorder in an captivating language, I now find myself interested in the physics of time verses recording devices.

[@aarongray7861]

Thank you for explaining this. It's actually pretty interesting, and shows a lot of thought into how to bring your content to us, and I thank you for it. For those that have an issue, the solution is simple: go start your own channel, and put whatever speed you want on it...

[@mrthirty1139]

Gavin if you're shooting something well within your cameras current capabilities could you 'overshoot' and play back at a higher frame rate for smoother playback?

[@TheSlowMoGuys2]

Yes and I actually say that in the video. Typically I am always pushing the cameras to the limits based on the subjects I choose so I rarely shoot lower than the maximum speed.

[@mrthirty1139]

Awesome! Thanks man

[@Lowezar]

That said, shooting at higher frame rate usually comes at the cost of resolution. Weird Gavin hasn't mentioned that. So overshooting in that end really isn't worth it. You won't like 240p video on your 1440p screen, will you?

[@solidfire737]

But also the quality goes down when the frames go up....i think

[@vanzonhl]

you could play every frame for two frames.. then it says 50fps but it's really 25 ;)

[@givemeajackson]

how on earth can people be stupid enough to even ask that??

[@givemeajackson]

If you even just look at the expression "frames per second" it should be painfully obvious why you wouldn't play back at 60 if your whole point is to make a slow video

[@givemeajackson]

Arc there's nothing to understand apart from some of the most basic logic...

[@HaloBalla]

Perhaps you should share your knowledge and not your negativity. Maybe you fail to realize you once didn't have the knowledge that you do have now. Let people learn something they don't know without calling them stupid.

[@PekaCheeki]

arent you a smartass lol, let me guess you knew what all that meant since you were born right?

[@Purpletrident]

It's pretty obvious that it would mess up the slowmo. You would have to have little common sense to not understand that on your own.

[@mrgriff6583]

If you want the slomoguys to make videos to be at 60 frames per second. Just set the speed to x2. There you go.

[@maazqasim1639]

Mr Griff duh

[@BA7ARO]

Jonathan Willis it is 50 fps

[@BA7ARO]

Jonathan Willis oh sorry didn't realize you were inbred

[@Demonfire39]

Jonathan Willis you triggered m8

[@BA7ARO]

MrNewVegaz maybe a little

[@stevestarcke]

The best explanation for slo mo that I have ever seen. Kudos. Love the hair.

[@kevins5600]

honestly i have never cared what frame rate you shoot in. i just like watching the videos!

[@DimitrisDr3am]

You have much more patience than I do. Making a video nicely explaining to people why you prefer to play back your slo motion video..... slow.

[@tututhidayah2957]

Travis Pendell tayuftayuftayuf

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

Yeah I'm usually a stickler for framerates, but it makes sense to keep them lower here. Also, it means you don't need 12 hours to upload a freaking video or however longer it takes over 25 fps videos.

[@DevinAK49]

bistouf7y "finally be smooth" framerate snobs are so laughable.

[@radanv2535]

you must hate movies

[@cyclingdane101]

haha! hear!

[@kilomancer]

from what he said, crunching the frames = upping to 60, expanding the frames = keeping them at 25 technically, in the raw slow motion footage, it wouldn't take any more time to upload at 60fps than it would at 25fps, considering if he's posting at 60 the footage is twofold speed, 25 is default speed. same frames, just faster or slower put out. the way video encoding (if done properly with the correct tools, subtracting duplicated frames and all) works, is both filesizes will be exactly the same (discounting a few bytes, for header values on how fast playback should be) though, the realtime parts of the video being shot at 25 frames per second -does- crunch that framerate down, as realtime 60 has higher density than realtime 25. what gavin said, i reiterate: slow distribution of frames versus fast distribution of frames. the footage of slowmo would have zero size difference. you're correct on UPLOADING ENTIRE VIDEOS, however-- unless they have VFR in their video... which i'm not entirely sure yt supports. iirc, youtube re-encodes the entire damn thing on their side, but i may be wrong on that, so please correct me if that's the case

[@kilomancer]

devin mate, lets say for example, they record footage that's 10,000 frames per second. a speed of 25 frames per second would be decent enough for viewing pleasure. the option for 60fps would discard minimal data processed by the human brain-- unless it's an extremely macro shot, with microscopic (wrong term but bear with me) details happening very quickly, EVEN at 10,000fps. i personally wish youtube would introduce compatibility for higher framerates, 80/100/120/144/200, is my preferred array of options. in a you-tube-topia, (utopia rofl) youtube would not re-encode videos (again, correct me if im wrong on this, but how does my 144f video drop to 60f? how does my 480p video RECORDED at 60f drop to 30f? i believe youtube does re-encoding) and the framerate would be dynamic. even VFR would be supported, in this perfect world - alas, we do not live in a perfect world. to bring the subject back to "smooth" framerates... my monitor on my home PC can reach to 144hz. personally, I have minimal (personal) detectability between 120 and 144, high detectability between 100 and 120, and major detectability between 60/80 -> 100. extreme between 30, and 60. 25 and 30 low detectability, though, for some reason... probably some kind of bell curve pattern going on in my mind, but i digress, and regress back to the matter at hand: viewing lower framerates than 144 while on the 144 mode on my monitor, to a margin of... 44-66-77 hz [varying degrees of uncomfortable feelings throughout the range] will make me feel - yes, i wrote it already - uncomfortable. i can see the splitting of between the frames, and it irks me, it makes my eyes squeeze and my head feel a bit of a malicious tingle between my skull. bluntly: makes me nauseous and gives me a headache! i can watch a movie, however, on a television, and to a degree, some anime on my monitor. of course, contextually, anime has very visible drawn frames, the between-frames typically smudge to give the illusion of interpolation, and even still frames occur with a framerate of 0 on such frames as those. television is at a constant, i believe? I'm not so educated on the television NTSC/PAL rates, and such, so I won't make any hard concrete claims on that, so disregard my opinion on televisions if it matters. drawing to the conclusion of my rant-like opinion piece, i believe context provides what it provides: CONTEXT. if you're watching a movie, you're not gawking at slow motion exclusively (aside from if it's a movie shot in entire slow motion -- haven't come across one of these, but if anyone has, feel free to link me) you're watching a story, your brain can shut off certain expectations to feel more comfortable... the brain has the capability to adapt- that's context, for you! now, if you're watching a slow motion video, exclusively to see the cool, fascinating effect of something breaking, or someone getting hit, a 25 frames per second view of the shot may be acceptable for some. however: long, concentrated focus on a shot while used to higher framerates, sitting in front of a computer, on KZbin... some individuals' minds are context-locked to wanting a smoother viewing experience. discarding more "interpreted" frames (the brain excluding frames might be a willing sacrifice to make, if the overall viewing experience becomes more bearable for these individuals. of course, slowmo guys can just throw out a scientific explanation of how video capture works while giving the utterance of a low-key 'fuck you,' and i can't do jack. and that's what's going to happen, but hopefully my exposition has given you light of some inner workings and reasoning to why "framerate snobs" are "framerate snobs."

[@omg_RANCORS]

its good to address how filming actually works. also im surprised that people keep commenting on how you should do your job, even though they dont know what they are talking about. also you use the same frame rate as movies. its a pleasing to the eye because it provides almost a "natural" motion blur.

[@VeganRevolution]

Why not upload at minus frames per second?

[@ocdoman]

that doesnt even make sense, why would he die for a bad cause?

[@bitbullet5744]

Pretty easy to do on our end. Hit the rewind button or pause.

[@TheKeoni109]

thats still playing the video at 25 fps, just reversed. negative fps is impossibru

[@VeganRevolution]

stop being so negative.

[@clicker123]

Well, you can't really do negative, but you could go to very low frames per second. That medium is called a book.

[@Jetski1337]

every fraim counts

[@tomerbr7044]

Hassan Nadeem frame*

[@Jetski1337]

TONTER TEP fraim

[@tomerbr7044]

Hassan Nadeem u should learn english

[@user-yw6ee4cg4g]

Hassan Nadeem Jeez, how ignorant

[@Jetski1337]

#InThe Butt lol

[@timramich]

You could still do your live footage at 50 FPS and just do frame doubling when you present the slow motion footage.

[@asherlloyd7922]

Tim Ramich I agree, this won't work in 4k as KZbin doesn't allow it but for the live footage and for when they don't slow it down fully this would be very useful

[@LazerLord10]

yeah, but having constant changes in framerate mid-video can be a bit jarring to watch. Consistency is good. (Also good fro slow internet connections. There's no 1080p30 option if they upload at 60fps.)

[@timramich]

It's only jarring if you're watching the same footage. There doesn't have to be an option for anything. They would make a 50 FPS video and simply tell the slow stuff to play in 25 FPS in their video editor. It would simply double the frames for those portions.

[@CrazyPat3000]

which would be absolutely dumb, because each frame would last the same time and it would just look like 25fps while wasting bandwith, rendering time and playback "power" like 50fps...

[@timramich]

You really don't get it. Their live footage would be at a real 50 FPS, and their slow-mo footage would be 25 FPS. It's not stupid, and it wouldn't be wasting bandwidth, because a frame that is a repeat of the previous frame uses almost no bandwidth. It's how video compression works. I just encoded a 30 FPS video. It came out to 2452.49 kbps/1.16 MB. I encoded the same video, with frame doubling to make 60 FPS, and it came out to 2620.57 kbps/1.24 MB.

[@Nahan_Boker94]

Damn i feel old. I still remember this video is the recommendation and in my notification once as new video. Now its more than 3 years ago...

[@deathab0ve]

I once tried replying to people the reason it wasn't 60fps. After a few videos I realized it will never stop.

[@FriedrichTheGreatest]

why not 0 fps. rename the channel the No Mo guys just a fucking still image with audio. Okay why does this comment have so many fucking likes.

[@juliantaffa4089]

+Friedrich hahaha ;D It sucks how you had to explicitly state that you were joking, some people on the internet can be so stupid.

[@grantlauzon5237]

Friedrich God damnit Barb

[@mistypixstudios6304]

ummm , actually "one fucking image" is not zero fps. zero fps means no image at all. and i am not joking

[@PrashantBatule]

Mistypix umm... actually, frames per second is a unit of "rate of change" of frames and not actually the frames. So, 0 fps means 0 frames are changing per second. So, he can have a constant image. d/dt of a constant is 0.

[@mistypixstudios6304]

but here it is not constant, that is the point. first there was nothing, and then a frame come. it is not like there was one frame always, that will be true 0 fps. you are just making out stuff to suit your point.

[@xWood4000]

I agree with you about using 25 fps.

[@Bornahorse]

Channel: Makes slow motion videos. Audience: but make them faster Channel: ???

[@jasonball3496]

Never seen a 50fps KZbin video before

[@Funhaus_Ryan]

Jeffery Francis I've seen one. I was like, "is youtube retarded?"

[@deathman1687]

I have, you might've too. I don't remember what video it was.

[@KSKaleido]

PAL (european standard) is 50 FPS. I don't know why. edit: oh hey he mentioned this in the video at 4:15. Wasn't there yet when I commented lol

[@LemmingGoBoom]

Power in europe is generally 50Hz as well. Ties in nicely.

[@thegreatslothlord7796]

+Kaleido Motoring I always thought that it was 60FPS here in Australia (which is a PAL country) when watching on KZbin. I wonder if that also counts for games. For example, Watch_Dogs 2 is advertised at 60FPS but because I live in Australia (which is a PAL country, in which I previously mentioned) would it then become 50FPS? Unless, these days all modern games are now 60FPS (even though that's largely untrue) unlike games back on older consoles like the PS3 or PS2 which usually had region specific versions of a game for example, Ratchet and Clank: Locked and Loaded (I can't remember what it was called in the US) in which here in Australia you had the PAL version unlike in the US or Africa.

[@tybertimus]

Haha, Gavin's mic-drop video for the critics XD

[@sahalanimation]

What I don't understand is why people are complaining about this at all

[@JoshMarshain]

sahalanimation people are fucking stupid, think of the dumbest person you know, most KZbin commenters are twice as stupid as they are

[@Smeltz247]

@@JoshMarshain that was savage. I love it.

[@GeekOfAllness]

60 fps looks better than 30 fps, all else being equal. The problem here, as described in the video above, is how hard it is to make all else actually be equal.

[@awesomesauce446]

@@GeekOfAllness higher frame rates do not invariably "look better", things like games or sports, where analysing the motion is the most important visual thing, then yeah it's preferable; but when image detail is concerned, it's at best pointless and at worst you end up with The Hobbit.

[@GeekOfAllness]

@GigaCuck Higher framerates *help* image detail, hence why it's especially important for games and sports. If the camera doesn't move at all, and there's minimal action on the screen, lower framerates may be acceptable, but there's almost never a place where higher framerates aren't -- at worst -- just as good, or -- typically -- better. Higher resolution imagery requires higher framerates to maintain visual detail while things are moving, so low-framerate content gets progressively more obvious as typical media resolutions increase. Fast camera panning is hard to track no matter what, but slow-to-medium panning is so much easier to see details on with higher framerates. As resolutions increase, the camera has to move more slowly to preserve full fidelity without increasing framerate. That's why The Hobbit looks so much nicer at 48 FPS: you can see detail in the imagery, even while the camera is panning around, that's just a blurry mess at 24 FPS. Places where lower framerate can be good is a dream or acid trip sequence where stuttering, janky imagery is supposed to help replicate the experience. Or (as the Slow Mo guys do) when you're trying to slow the action down but can't record at a high enough framerate to both play back at normal framerate and get slow enough action. But in all these cases, low framerate is usually just a compromise due to technical or financial constraints, and doesn't actually look better than the same sequence done properly at higher framerate. Obviously, 24 FPS content looks better if you can actually play it back at 24 FPS, rather than the crappy 3:2 pulldown that most people use to upscale to 30 FPS, even on proper 60 FPS screens. A 72 Hz or 120 Hz monitor can display 24 FPS by just repeating the frame 3 or 5 times without any judder. A 60 Hz monitor can display without judder by repeating the first frame twice, blending the first and second frames once, then repeating the second frame twice, but it's very rare for that to happen that I've seen, so you end up with terrible judder problems. But even proper 24 FPS has really bad sample-and-hold motion blur if the object you're tracking is moving even a little on an LCD or similar screen that doesn't strobe. And it has potentially bad strobing problems if you strobe the screen. Strobing at 24 Hz would be terrible, so theaters strobe at 72 Hz, which looks okay for most scenes, but you can see how blurry things are along slow-moving edges, such as during the credits. And fast-moving objects end up with numerous copies spread across the screen. The biggest issues with high framerates these days is file size on BluRay discs being too high (hence why The Hobbit is only available at 24 FPS, though modern BluRay is capable of 60 FPS), and CGI costing more to produce (the animation and rigging doesn't take any more, but rendering takes 2.5 times as many computations with 60 FPS vs 24 FPS). And the fact that the much better visual quality of 60 FPS makes it easier to see cheaply-done effects. The biggest problem with The Hobbit was the people who never gave it a chance, but insisted it was crap because some critic stuck in 1927 said it was crap. As someone who's been running things way over 30 FPS since the '90s, I see 24 FPS and constantly wish people would get with the century and start recording at 120+ FPS (240+ for stereo). 24 FPS is just bad, especially when poorly upscaled to 60 Hz monitors.

[@ezpoppy55]

I absolutely love when someone who knows what they’re doing and why they’re doing it explains so patiently to a know-it-all who _thinks_ they know more (especially with a snotty attitude) that the know-it-all does not know what they’re talking about at all. Well played!

[@chrispartridge1369]

"Why aren't Slow Mo Guys videos 60 fps? Because, idiots, our camera can only capture in a limited FPS, and we want our videos to be really slow. If we did it in 60 then they wouldn't be as slow. We're called the Slow Mo Guys.'

[@garcialovesme]

Why aren't the Slow Mo Guys videos subtitled?

[@anotheftifloga9069]

because he knows that we are smart and knows that he doesn't need to spell every word for us to understand what he is saying

[@brandonb9452]

Henry Stickman So hearing impaired people aren’t welcome here?

[@awesomeat9113]

Henry Stickman yeah deaf people are just dumb they should just learn to hear

[@MMX974]

Awesomeat 911 We can't control our hearings

[@MMX974]

Russ Wilkie Wait a minute... 😯

[@johnees]

Why I'm getting this in recommended section in 2019?

[@sl83r6]

Because youtube

[@GeneralAeon]

2020

[@georgeimpraim5945]

I got it in 2020

[@blockparty5695]

He’s a lil photography/videography wizard!

[@Dark_Daedalus]

Went to check the quality, and it can go 1080x50. I've never heard of a set frame rate at 50

[@KillingTheMotivation]

Dark Daedalus it's because it's two times the UK cinematic frame rate of 25. I use some professional cameras and they tend to film at 50fps and then we cut every other frame to make it that 25fps. So KZbin allowing 50fps allows us to upload footage raw if we wanted to

[@legendp2011]

50fps, it's what UK and Australia use. becuase powerstations oscillate at 50hz, meaning lights flicker 50x a second. meaning if you don't want flickering lights in your video than your shutterspeed needs to be set to 1/50th of a second (and your video can either be 25fps or 50fps with a shutterspeed of 1/50th

[@Delta225]

PAL

[@AAO-Falcon]

Honestly I thought this would be common sense

[@copperboltwire320]

Common Sense is a super Power, and sadly, a rare one at that.

[@BintonGaming]

yeah I agree

[@orcishh]

The Slow Mo not being 60fps is common sense, but the rest of the video could very well be 60fps and be fine.

[@weeardguy]

@@orcishh But why? Does it improve anything? Can't you see what's happening when the framerate is at - oh help me dear God - 25 or 30 frames/second? It doesn't do anything special when there is only someone talking. With fast moving objects, you can have advantage over a higher framerate, but most of the time it looks odd and when you are shooting for the broadcast-industry, good luck then, as 50 frames interlaced is still the standard there.

[@Murphy46]

the question is, why this channel is all over my feed when i'm pretty sure i don't see any of their videos....

[@greenygreen8253]

Murphy46 Same thing happened to me

[@noeyedeer460]

Awesome well put together video, wasn't even curious about the answer before I started watching but getting stepped through it was great

[@sammymorini9748]

i wish my games could run at 250,000fps lol

[@JakeFromSpectrum]

Sammy Morini there has to be a max smoothness after a certain point that anything above that bar doesn't matter

[@sammymorini9748]

Jacob Emery yup, but still... numbers!

[@Meg_A_Byte]

It can run, but your monitor wouldn't show it anyway and your eye probably wouldn't tell the difference as well.

[@sammymorini9748]

Meg.A. Byte false on both counts. my monitor will show it and ill noticed the difference.... fraps :P

[@Meg_A_Byte]

Sammy Morini I don't get your post. Probably because you are totally wrong. For example - I'm running the Team Fortress 2 at 900+ fps, but that doesn't mean that my monitor will show all 900 of them in one second. It won't, because the refresh rate of it is 60Hz. That means it will refresh the image it's showing 60 times in second. What fraps has to do with all of this? Yes, you can record 900 fps when you are playing and have good software, but you definitely can't actually see all of those in one second, unless you have a display with 900+Hz refresh rate (typical monitor is 60Hz).

[@samueltaylor4989]

The preview: “it’s explosive”! Is it diarrhea!!

[@douglaspantz]

TLDR; If you want 60fps, watch at 2x Speed. Edit:Many people have corrected me by saying that youtube caps the amount of frames playing on a 30fps video to always be 30fps. But I haven't tested that.

[@baileysmith4744]

Douglas Pantz, lol. i dont think it works like that. because he plays at 25 frames, so its only going to 50. but instead of shrinking the space for each frame to fit more in one second, it is shrinking it so it fits the 25 in half the space. it doesnt increase frames but instead how fast it goes through the 25. do you get what i’m saying?

[@justinhalen2126]

@@baileysmith4744 actually if you play at 2x on a 25 fps video you will get 50fps.. which is very close to 60. (every 5th frame might get repeated on a 60hz display).. if the video is 30fps, 2x speed will play at 60fps... most displays are 60hz, so you cant increase a 60fps video without losing frames...

[@PatoCrioyo]

@@baileysmith4744 I thought the same thing, it just made sense they'd keep the wrapper at the original framerate (25fps in this case), but I just tried it on this video and it turns out the framerate is effectively doubled. It might depend on the power of the device you're playing KZbin on, but it definitely worked for me. The video isn't just sped up, the framerate is actually doubled.

[@pekame]

You will just see that 25 fps but faster

[@pekame]

because the video gets shorter(on youtube is not changing the time of the video is just making the actual time of the video gets faster/slower)so it is still going to be 25 fps in 10 seconds and at 2x speed it is going to be like 25 fps in 5 seconds . Hope you understood !

[@TheCentaury]

even since KZbin always change its video algorithms... This video is at 50 fps (for me at least) while my screen can go up to 144Hz

[@bharathg8072]

My Raspberry Pi 3 b+ cant play back at 1080p 60fps so in another way i appreciate your uploads at 25 fps

[@SomeRandomPiggo]

you can still play 60fps videos, it just doesnt show at 60

[@adamkija6895]

Meanwhile: uploads video at 50 fps

[@ElTurbinado]

darin Shwana whoosh

[@nimamaster6128]

He's put comparison videos in 25 and 60. How would you tell the diffrence if he uploaded in 30?

[@ps1nk4]

I know right? "Look at how smooth this 60fps footage is" and meanwhile the video is in 50

[@carlosfunes9027]

@@bxeagle3932 there is no slow motion in this video therefore there is no need for the 25 fps

[@mjincorporation30]

ElTurbinado it isn’t a joke, and If it is, it’s a pretty bad one

[@evellior]

Uploading regular speed content at 50fps, with slow mo content playing back at 25fps (every other frame) when you want it that slow, would still be great. The smoother movements just while someone walks around on set and things is so much nicer, and it'd fit your theme of filming at high frame rates and then reducing that frame rate when you want to slow things down.

[@yorickgerms7977]

I don't understand why Gavin wouldn't come up with this. It's strange how his first argument suggests that if you switch to 60fps on KZbin, your video will slow down. But thats obviously not the case.

[@jonasdaverio9369]

I had to look hard to find this answer. I felt like everyone had become stupid. He just went on for 8 minutes explaining a cross multiplication without replying to the real argument.

[@baaelectronics]

That's basically how all of their new videos are displayed. I assume their "standard speed" cameras before ~2016 could only do either 2160p25 or 1080p50. Gav's Canon 7D was only 1080p25 but now, everything can do 2160p50. I had the same experience going from a Canon T6i at 1080p29.97 to BMPCC4K at 2160p60. I totally agree with you and prefer it like it is now.

[@koolaidss10blazer]

Very good explanation Gav!!! Love the channel. Keep up the good work. I always wanted to see what a bee looks like stinging in slow motion.