Why Asian Americans are not the Model Minority | Alice Li | TEDxVanderbiltUniversity

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@grantchow13
@grantchow13 4 жыл бұрын
“Asians” will always be treated like foreigners in Western culture. Born,raised,educated,worked and lived here my whole life and get told “You speak really good English” ? by old Caucasian ladies like I’m a child ?
@mysteretsym
@mysteretsym 4 жыл бұрын
They forget that we have been living here our whole lives
@jhonklan3794
@jhonklan3794 3 жыл бұрын
Yet you most likely grew up in a two parent household, have access to higher education and had a silver spoon up your but unlike most white Americans. Stop trying to be oppressed so bad.
@simonabucur2945
@simonabucur2945 3 жыл бұрын
@@jhonklan3794 How do you know his personal life? And do you say only poor people can be oppressed? Are you saying the most white Americans are poor? Then why aren't you classified as a poor country? And before you assume things again, no, I am not Asian and I think you are projecting your personal issues here.
@grantswartz8752
@grantswartz8752 3 жыл бұрын
I never understood why people don’t learn the other person language/culture or at least try to I’m learning Chinese now and learned Russian and Spanish I. School...better pay options and manyyy other positives of learning other cultures besides yours
@Missusri
@Missusri 3 жыл бұрын
...then some do not fail to call me "honey, sweetie. "
@moriahsun
@moriahsun 7 жыл бұрын
Wow she’s so right though: when she said “one American won the gold metal and one American won the silver metal” I immediately expected her to say “and one Asian won the bronze metal”. Dude in my mind I imagined two Caucasian women winning the gold and silver. And I’m fricking Chinese American myself.
@Lhaenen
@Lhaenen 4 жыл бұрын
you do know- this was 2 years ago youve probs grown
@raphaelsanluis9711
@raphaelsanluis9711 3 жыл бұрын
Well look at it this way nobody is as perfect .
@raphaelsanluis9711
@raphaelsanluis9711 3 жыл бұрын
Not everyone could get perfect at least .
@misopark4055
@misopark4055 7 жыл бұрын
I love watching the Asian American ted talks because I can relate SO MUCH
@uncommercialtraveller4057
@uncommercialtraveller4057 7 жыл бұрын
Miso Park I know what you mean - I feel the same when I listen to Commander Rockwell. We are tribal creatures and we are all part of a larger family - our race. It's a wonderful feeling.
@vosaemify
@vosaemify 4 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@vosaemify
@vosaemify 4 жыл бұрын
The myth is real. I've joined music bands and they say "we have an Asian now" we are now good with music. I'm high average at best lol
@eltonprince6257
@eltonprince6257 3 жыл бұрын
@@vosaemify You can blame Herman Li for that one, and I think he’s English, lol.
@wanglee21
@wanglee21 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't odd that most Asian on Tedx Talk, talk only about how we are misrepresented in western social standards.
@kellygoodman6167
@kellygoodman6167 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not Asian but I came to watch this to learn.
@andrewlankford9634
@andrewlankford9634 4 жыл бұрын
Study hard. Don't forget to check out the TED talks on ditch digging, too.
@yihuanzou2603
@yihuanzou2603 4 жыл бұрын
Respect.
@iiiblanklll6651
@iiiblanklll6651 4 жыл бұрын
Hello fellow Identity V player
@Pinkdam
@Pinkdam 4 ай бұрын
What wasn't mentioned is that the 'model minority myth' is a story (the definition of myth) told *by* Asian Americans to themselves. Why do they learn violin and piano, not accordion and mouth organ? It's not because they remind them of home, and it's certainly not because the former are more 'American' or 'Western' than the latter: it's because they are the musical instruments of the élite, or at least a perceived élite.
@SadethCheng
@SadethCheng 7 жыл бұрын
I sometime think "Asian-American" is a misnomer. I was born and raised in America my entire life. I have never held any other nationality besides that of a US citizenship. My ethnicity is Asian, but my nationality is, currently, and has always been, 100% USA.
@samsung9159
@samsung9159 6 жыл бұрын
but do u still eat asian food ? celebrate asian traditions ?
@flea10x6
@flea10x6 5 жыл бұрын
Sam Sung less often that many or most caucasians with whom I associate. How does the food you eat apply? So thos Texans or other residents/citizens of the US who eat so many tacos/burritos/nachos... do you identify them as Mexican due to their food preference?
@政斌-x8k
@政斌-x8k 5 жыл бұрын
Don't have to be offended by that. Race and nationality are different things.
@tlp031102
@tlp031102 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you are American!
@daudimpulumba6742
@daudimpulumba6742 4 жыл бұрын
You are not American but you are asian
@TheJhartge
@TheJhartge 7 жыл бұрын
What the myth is really about is manipulating apparent signs of success as a tool that denies all our right to voice our race related experience whether we’re Asian or not
@effexon
@effexon 5 жыл бұрын
oppression by appraisal.
@ChloeGrace00
@ChloeGrace00 3 жыл бұрын
I replayed that segment at least ten times...
@beactivebehappy9894
@beactivebehappy9894 2 жыл бұрын
that line was so powerful. It reminded me of one of the replies in some video where the person arguing said that if Indians can do it/overcome racial barrier, why can’t other asians do that. As a non-American myself that gave me a quite weird feeling as if it was some person justifying their racism in the guise that it did not exist itself. The person’s further argument was as if there is discrimination/little there might be, but it is not that much giving the example of Sundar Pichai and other Indians as CEOs
@3flyte_3flyte
@3flyte_3flyte Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@sae4842
@sae4842 3 жыл бұрын
Great talk. I am an Asian latina and feel bad for Asian Americans. You never really feel like you belong. Not asian enough, not american enough, not latina enough. Your self-esteem takes a hit. When I was a kid, I didn't have these thoughts, maybe because I was surrounded by too many mixed blood asian-latinos. But coming to Canada where I now live, the feeling of being foreign is much more pronounced as I see more segregated racial communities. You'd think because it is a first world country, this wouldn't happen. It is a very strange feeling.. The more people talk about it, the worst I feel for fitting in the stereotype. The worst thing is that sometimes I take comfort knowing that since I am Asian latina, I am more unique than other Asian Americans. It is a very deep feeling which is wrong. The media certainly makes it worse. Listening to 'good' stereotypes is a way of protecting yourself, but ultimately makes you feel guilty. It is like there is no win win. Everyone deserves to be treated as a unique person.
@vulcanraven9701
@vulcanraven9701 2 жыл бұрын
Moving to a foreign country = being viewed as an outside. Obviously
@vanilla7320
@vanilla7320 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I wasn’t stereotype, I’m not smart, I do not “eat dogs”, I am not perfect to everyone else In my town.Most Asian Americans are mostly stereotyped which is sad and leads to stress for high expectations.
@daviddarden1915
@daviddarden1915 5 жыл бұрын
The incites on this was very informative. Having been able to travel in the US Air Force as a Security Police and being stationed in Japan, Korea and Philippines. I found myself surrounded by people who in America are a minority and now they are the majority. Meaning that now I learnt that people who I rarely see are quite more interesting than what was portrayed in American society. Now me being a African-American sometimes we are the majority in many places. As compared to our Asian American brothers and sisters. So when I was first stationed overseas in Korea in the year 1987, I really started to become more understanding of the Asian American experience. I am glad that I was able to acquire relationships and friendships from being open minded and taken advantage of opportunities of diversity.
@Lilyrose23
@Lilyrose23 7 жыл бұрын
I'm black and it's true that Asian are often left out in big debates. for example, in the last election I didn't heard the Media asking about who they would vote for. But Asians have to speak up, the only way to get change and show that we aren't happy about certain situations is to shake the system. Republicans can't handle that. but without the constant noises that African Americans make when white people try to get back on their old racist ways this country would still have slavery. people don't define you, you tell them who you're and you make them respect it. of course there are black people who are racists toward Asians and Asian against black people. And not all white people are racists. but the system should benefits all of us. which is why people call out white people, it's because the system is only profiting them and everyone else has to fight against the system so against white privilege and stereotypes.
@Lilyrose23
@Lilyrose23 7 жыл бұрын
+Death From Above and Below Why don't you go below !!!!!!!
@oceanneli8735
@oceanneli8735 7 жыл бұрын
Okay, we are NOT using our race as a playing card. Also, you should stop generalising all Asians and learn how to type.
@harbinger9072
@harbinger9072 7 жыл бұрын
+Bunnies Forever you have a naive, anti-white majority view that has been inculcated in you by indoctrination. There is no basis for idea that blacks as minorities in the USA would not be prejudiced and even outright hostile toward Asians. Why did you think that? You thought it was "minority bonding" ? That might work for 5 minutes, maybe.
@laken1804
@laken1804 6 жыл бұрын
+ Bunnies Forever, other minorities are not pushing Asians down, so your attempt to make your voice hear is difficult. Quit trying to make people feel sorry for you.
@daustin8888
@daustin8888 5 жыл бұрын
You still think voting is going to solve anything
@rajanalexander4949
@rajanalexander4949 4 ай бұрын
Not to deny her lived experience, but her stats actually confirm the myth. True, intra-Asian groups are statistically heterogenous for poverty levels and income, but the blended rate is lower and higher respectively than the median in each case. Also, lower rate of complaints of discrimination by Asian Americans is not necessarily because they'll be doubted, but rather exactly due to the (good or bad) cultural ethos for Asians not to complain.
@MindOfFoolio
@MindOfFoolio 7 жыл бұрын
I agree. Don't stereotype people! There's too much variasian 😇☝️
@657111221
@657111221 7 жыл бұрын
If you had any intelligence you would have understood the point I was trying to make. Talk about having chips on their shoulders!
@Shannon-wn6mz
@Shannon-wn6mz 7 жыл бұрын
Hahah vari-asian 😂😂
@BracaPhoto
@BracaPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
There's no way to "stereotype" an individual... A stereotype is a statistical average of groups... Anyone that's studied statistics understands that it DOES NOT predict an individual... In other words I don't quit understand what your saying... I'm a bit confused
@nocap7885
@nocap7885 4 жыл бұрын
@@BracaPhoto Uh no thats not what a stereotype is. Meriam Webster defines it as a standardized mental picture that is held in common by members of a group and that represents an oversimplified opinion, prejudiced attitude, or uncritical judgment. To say that all stereotypes must have a factual basis, or aren't often derived from misinterpretation would be dishonest. In fact many stereotypes have no factual basis and are derived from propaganda/anecdotal association. It seems you're the one causing yourself this "confusion."
@BracaPhoto
@BracaPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
@@nocap7885 I've just noticed some stereotypes seem to be correct and most of them aren't... That's just my life experience...
@sherylmartin777
@sherylmartin777 3 жыл бұрын
I loved her final comments. The whole talk was great!
@nadejdadobrydnik
@nadejdadobrydnik 4 жыл бұрын
A big thank you to the author for bringing this important topic up. I appear Asian, however, I was born and raised in a country that used to belong to USSR. So essentially, in my head, I'm Russian. I consider myself a person who has first-hand experienced and developed appreciation for different religions and cultures due to my upbringing. However, I used to always feel out of place. Coming to the US, I thought that finally I can belong. For me, the US was a multicultural country, which accepted all. Little did I know about "yellow fever", the term "Twinkie" or model minority myths)))
@iskdude9922
@iskdude9922 4 жыл бұрын
it's not a myth. You are asian but your ethnic upbringing may be of something else. east asians make more money than whites. South east asians don't make as much money. It appears you can't handle reality so i won't delve deeper into why it's like that.
@TheChildfreeCurlyGirl
@TheChildfreeCurlyGirl 7 жыл бұрын
Wow! Bravo!!! Based on the comments, this went over a lot of heads.
@shahrzadketabollahi5496
@shahrzadketabollahi5496 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Middle Eastern, but came here because I felt like I wasn't seeing the bigger picture with Asian stereotypes (especially considering I've never met one in real life). Thank you for this TED-talk. I certainly learned a lot :)
@morakano8986
@morakano8986 7 жыл бұрын
There's a disparity between how Asian women and Asian men are treated in the west. You don't have to be going to Vanderbilt to figure that shit out. She's doing a whole lot of talking, but it will always fall on deaf ears.
@helpihavenoskin8939
@helpihavenoskin8939 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should stop appropriating white culture and move back to china, a pretty novel idea eh?
@ehm2943
@ehm2943 7 жыл бұрын
Minsu Jee they will always be equally discriminated and REAL ASIANS WON't GIVE A SH@T!!!!
@ehm2943
@ehm2943 7 жыл бұрын
Minsu Jee you can tell despite how bright and accomplish she is that the liberal koolaid is clouding her thoughts. asian women have TOO MUCH TO DEAL WITH let alone invest on a discriminating speech coz of diversity. better off reading art of war if u want to win anything asian!!
@texasjoshua24
@texasjoshua24 7 жыл бұрын
Minsu Jee not everyone. It does on some.
@helpihavenoskin8939
@helpihavenoskin8939 7 жыл бұрын
and that is exactly why you don't belong in the west, you're a savage
@lmdeboom
@lmdeboom 4 жыл бұрын
Well presented. Very informative. Thank you.
@ToniEl87
@ToniEl87 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Very enlightening.
@JTu8925
@JTu8925 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a foreigner living in Japan, I have other friends in China and South Korea. We all experience the idea of being the perpetual foreigner. Home country Asian even treat immigrated Asians as outsiders but still get Asian benefits. That's just the world we live in.
@smellydonut5088
@smellydonut5088 4 жыл бұрын
Very insightful!
@laman8914
@laman8914 4 жыл бұрын
I admire her courage, but the problem I have with these kind of analysis is that it analyses the symptoms but does not go the heart of the problem; the perception of the white Christian majority group about their fellow citizens. There's where the problem is and there is where we should start: study the mind, behavior, perceptions, norms and values held by whites and how they project that on other fellow Americans who don't look like them. However, the people that should be standing on the podium to explain this, most of them are sitting in the audience. So, we have a wrong directional discussion and the problem remains. It's the whites that should explain why they perceive and treat others differently than themselves.
@riiraa881
@riiraa881 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I've been saying this for a while now (different words but same sentiment). I'm glad somebody else sees it the same way. Unless White people get involved and begin to examine their own biases and prejudices, the problem will continue to exist because that is the root of the problem.
@beactivebehappy9894
@beactivebehappy9894 2 жыл бұрын
10 times that.🙌
@beactivebehappy9894
@beactivebehappy9894 2 жыл бұрын
10 times that.🙌
@alisonkuo4436
@alisonkuo4436 7 жыл бұрын
every time someone tell me your so smart i said lier and then i walk away
@edwinamendelssohn5129
@edwinamendelssohn5129 2 жыл бұрын
How civil
@turuus5215
@turuus5215 4 жыл бұрын
I am Asian, not American. I was thinking about going to America to live, where everyone has equal rights and opportunities. I feel a little disappointed.
@philoindo9438
@philoindo9438 4 жыл бұрын
Stay where u r brat
@arkaysam803
@arkaysam803 4 жыл бұрын
@@philoindo9438 And you claim land by killing natives
@user-rc3ii4jd8v
@user-rc3ii4jd8v 3 жыл бұрын
@@philoindo9438 tf is your problem
@Healp145
@Healp145 3 жыл бұрын
@@philoindo9438 And you have indo as a last name
@jgog59
@jgog59 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve read many different articles on the model minority myth. You’re TEDTalk brings it all together very concisely.
@howell7136
@howell7136 23 күн бұрын
My great grandson is 1/16 Chinese and still carrying the name, Wong.
@marvajefferson6958
@marvajefferson6958 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand what a model minority is, if you know explain it to me 🤷🏼‍♀️
@marvajefferson6958
@marvajefferson6958 3 жыл бұрын
I have a better idea of a model minority is starting with a high intellectual. So with that line of thinking where does that leave the rest of us minorities??
@kaleidojess
@kaleidojess 3 жыл бұрын
A minority group that all other minority groups should basically look up to because they're the ideal model. A group of minorities, non white, who are seen as the ideal minority, or ideal non white, immigrant, ethnic group. They are seen as the cream of the crop amongst all minorities.
@kaleidojess
@kaleidojess 3 жыл бұрын
The term seems like a compliment but it's actually insulting
@dpatra7081
@dpatra7081 3 жыл бұрын
Basically Asians are a minority group that do well statistically in USA. People say this contradicts narratives that USA is a place that is only good for white people.
@edwinamendelssohn5129
@edwinamendelssohn5129 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaleidojess only if you make it so
@howellwong11
@howellwong11 Жыл бұрын
When people ask me what race am I, I would answer, Chinese-Japanese-Hawaiian. I stick with the American culture of the high socio-economic class. I'm smart and good at math, but that is about it.
@bluedog101c
@bluedog101c 5 жыл бұрын
Middle Eastern and Indian are also classified as Asian in the "income bracket."
@bluedog101c
@bluedog101c 4 жыл бұрын
@anurag693 Asians include pakistan, india and some of middle east decent in US census.
@thelegend27yes15
@thelegend27yes15 4 жыл бұрын
Middle Easterners are not counted as Asians in the statistics she was using for income as the census bureau does not include Middle Easterners into the "Asian" category but rather the "white/ Caucasian" category.
@brianpelzer5811
@brianpelzer5811 5 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO TED TALKS. GOOD COMMENTARY ON WHY ASIAN AMERICANS ARE NOT THE MODEL MINORITY MYTH.
@HillaryGaming_Official
@HillaryGaming_Official 4 жыл бұрын
I am Chinese Canadian or Asian Canadian 🇨🇳🇨🇦
@shivammore6953
@shivammore6953 4 жыл бұрын
Homoasians
@Healp145
@Healp145 3 жыл бұрын
@@shivammore6953 LMAO
@BamBam-ib6qk
@BamBam-ib6qk 3 жыл бұрын
Wow GREAT Job here!
@faithngwenya7634
@faithngwenya7634 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's an African thing but when people ask kids parents anyone where they are from we automatically say our village roots despite not being born there or growing up there I actually think everyone in Africa does that especially people I have met
@marvajefferson6958
@marvajefferson6958 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what my village roots are my connection to Africa since I'm three generations removed.
@kaleidojess
@kaleidojess 3 жыл бұрын
9:19 that’s exactly what it is. Race obviously matters that’s why we talk about it so much.. just well said. Great video.
@azazel166
@azazel166 3 жыл бұрын
Aged like wine, now that hot-heads are taking their frustrations out on Asian-Americans due to the pandemic.
@nousername4402
@nousername4402 3 жыл бұрын
my left ear enjoyed this
@bindoe4001
@bindoe4001 4 жыл бұрын
From an immigrated Asian who used to be laughed at his strong accents back in high school, I would say Asian-American are smart and talented. They outperformed whites in all areas from education to jobs performed. I'm not scaling on the level of vertical, but I'm talking about horizontal analysis. As we all can see Asian are out performing Whites from year after year. Why don't you mention that Asian privileged. If we think us as an minority then why wouldn't they. Come on, you guys are smart, and talent, but we might need to work on some self-esteem. I see all the Asian always hangout as a group, and don't usually break out the box. I also see Asian people call other Asian people who hangout with white or try to fit "white brainwashed". I get it, racism is there. However, the way to let people see us cool is not to tell them hey I'm cool, pls treat me as a cool guy. Therefore, I would say "minority" is so overused. I heard it everywhere, specially in college.
@vulcanraven9701
@vulcanraven9701 2 жыл бұрын
keep in mind the average asian has more money than the average white. Most asian immigrants have professional degrees. blacks/hispanics too
@ravipeiris4388
@ravipeiris4388 7 жыл бұрын
Living in California and as an Indian Asian, I know about racism, especially from Latinos - they get free citizenship, free education and because of affirmative action-get jobs with half the education of those of Asians.
@vulcanraven9701
@vulcanraven9701 2 жыл бұрын
Latinos don't get free citizenship and the education they get isn't as good as the affluent private schools asians send their students in
@3flyte_3flyte
@3flyte_3flyte Жыл бұрын
L.A., especially. They can spew racism and they think they're entitled to. Idiots.
@kevinnguyen5588
@kevinnguyen5588 Жыл бұрын
I sure gave my professors and mangers a headache -- top performer but nonconforming to the stereotype.
@topnotchtn4538
@topnotchtn4538 7 жыл бұрын
Preach.
@andrewkendall4496
@andrewkendall4496 6 жыл бұрын
"Race still matters" (in the US and probably western Europe) only to the degree it fits within the larger psychological construct of people's tendency to quantify anyone different. That, however, applies well beyond race. Yet race is somehow the biggest? I don't believe it's a substantial problem, only a phenomenon of humanity, occasionally tinged with wrong conclusions and/or magnified and misplaced outrage.
@kookaichanda5717
@kookaichanda5717 7 жыл бұрын
The few whites in China were treated quite well only because there are so few of them. They are never perceived as a threat socially or economically and therefore be treated civilly. Racial tension is inevitable in USA because the African Hispanic minority is growing faster and White Americans' majority is eroding. The juicing technology jobs in Silicon valley are taken up by well-trained Indians. The union blue collar whites no longer enjoy clearly superior economic prestige. It is all in the numbers. Had there been more Asians in the US, this so called model minority myth will not be perpetuated.
@kates8649
@kates8649 7 жыл бұрын
Asians have many different people. They are not same. Because Asia is huge. Look at map: North Asia, Northeast Asia, Southeast Asia, South Asia, and West Asia. For example, northeast asians are minitory in USA except chineses. I dont see many koreans or japaneses both schools and work places. I know that many Southeast asians & south asians really hate northeast asians due to different culture and appearance. We are unique as northeast Asians. I also heard that Americans like more south asians and Southeast asians like Filipino, because their culture is closer to western culture. not much unique unlike Japan or Korea.
@kookaichanda5717
@kookaichanda5717 7 жыл бұрын
"The latest(as of 2013) census numbers show: The population younger than 5 stood at 49.9 percent minority in 2012. For the first time in more than a century, the number of deaths now exceeds births among white Americans. " (usnews.newsvine.com/_news/2013/06/13/18934111-census-white-majority-in-us-gone-by-2043) So the current sentiment of the white population is not unexpected. If real political power is not gathered by all Asians, the fate of native Americans(who went from majority hosts status to the current "nations") and the African blacks(who fared better but were captured, humiliated, and traded) might just be around the corner. The Chinese Exclusion Act was repealed by the Magnuson Act only in 1943 after 60+ years. The so called model minority is just a gambit. You are painted into a corner having to work harder for less.
@lilywu6208
@lilywu6208 3 жыл бұрын
@@kates8649 in USA,people think Asian is Chinese, and Chinese includes Japanese and Korean,. Compare to Chinese, Korean is nothing
@countjanushassildor4727
@countjanushassildor4727 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly as a hispanic person I could care less, my personal view is that we are all people and we all have different ways of being based on culture, and we can respect each others cultures if we wish. And I know Asians are seen as a model minority but it's not like my whole world is the U.S or Europe, there's a whole world out there, different cultures and people, that whole stereotypical rhetoric isn't global, and therefore constitutes my lack of shits to give.
@toasturhztoastbunz896
@toasturhztoastbunz896 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being teased relentlessly for not living up to the standard in middle school. No fun I'm telling ya...
@anonymousanonymous2319
@anonymousanonymous2319 4 жыл бұрын
Asian is too broad, as an asian I hate the term. Why should 4 billion people in one continent be classified as one? In the USA for example, Chinese and Indian families do better than whites. Not ALL asians. Generally people think of oriental people when people say asian but it's more than that. Mainland China, Japan and Korea weren't colonised by european powers (yes HK and Macau were). Most of Asia was but not all asians are viewed the same way. There is no 'asian' model shut up
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 4 жыл бұрын
East Asian Americans not South East Asian, West Asian, And South Asian ones usually
@thelegend27yes15
@thelegend27yes15 4 жыл бұрын
Wdym? No they are included. South and Southeast Asian groups do better than East Asian groups. West Asian groups do around the same as European groups and fall under the "white/Caucasian" category in the census bureau. The statistics she used encompassed East, Southeast, and South Asian groups as they are included under the "Asian" category.
@darcywalker1546
@darcywalker1546 Жыл бұрын
First off everyone race has stereotypes so be it positive or negative, you should t let it define you even if others see you like this initially. Everyone judges everyone else on stereotypes until they get to know you. Second, she kept on saying she is Asian American yet the argument was that they don’t see someone as just American. How about she just call herself as American. If everyone said that they were American then maybe there would be a change and everyone would be accepted as American. If everyone is to come together then there has to be common ground. This is one thing that everyone can do is just call themselves American without identifying as something else. People like to segregate themselves by identity politics instead of finding common ground and bringing togetherness. MLK said in his speech, I have a dream, of a time when we all can grab each other hands and shout free at last. This will never happen if people continue to look into the past and feel victims instead of continue to progress and find ways to coexist positively without creating divide and differences. We as a nation have progressed so much and it is a lot better than what it was in the past. Learn from the past don’t live in the past and together people can live, flourish and succeed through hard work, morals and values such as marriage and family and helping one another as the human race and not putting our selves in a category of skin color. Skin color does not define you. Your character does.
@spicychickenisme2143
@spicychickenisme2143 5 жыл бұрын
the audio is bad ._. but the ted talk is good
@lovesonmyside2184
@lovesonmyside2184 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with her about Asians in Politics. Her last 5 mins was Powerful although she seemed a little chocked up.
@tomorrowland6423
@tomorrowland6423 5 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t going to comment on this-even after reading some of the most vile spewing hateful comments against African-American people. But that was before I listened to the video in its entirety. And just as I thought, yep she headed in the exact direction I thought she would…and a little further. So I must say a little something. "How do you object to stereotypes that sound like compliments?" You can’t. ...And you don’t. ...And Asians haven't. And that’s the rub. Who in their right minds would? Especially when it affords you such high esteem and thus high placement and access in society. Asians are at the top in the schools and therefore hired more. Employers go hunting for Asians more than any other group, besides Caucasians. I can’t help but think, then what’s their problem? I see none. The “Model Minority Myth” works in Asians' favor; and it’s not a myth. Asian are at the top of the employment scale because they have proved that they are so very competent in pretty much everything they do. Do Asians have some people who are not high achievers? Sure. Just as she's stating here. And those who've chosen to live in the States, for the most part, know and understand exactly why this is so. Which is why now, on behalf of the Chinese community, really, she's trying to make a case for asking Government spending for them, while masking it on whole as an Asian thing. However, "Heavy is the head that wears the crown." So, continue to wear it proudly and demonstrate once again your ability to creatively think your way out of this perceived bad situation, in order to improve the lives of your "under achievers", without the use of comparisons of African-Africans in order to now unashamedly get subsistence from Public Dole/Government tax spending/welfare, food stamps, housing and the like. I wish she hadn't have brought African-American's into their squabble. We certainly don't and can't compare. The reason behind Asian poverty and African-American poverty are not the same. They are "two horses of a different color".
@TGIM
@TGIM 7 жыл бұрын
It's insane that the world has been broken down to three races
@政斌-x8k
@政斌-x8k 5 жыл бұрын
Because its always been that way
@philoindo9438
@philoindo9438 4 жыл бұрын
@@政斌-x8k no it hasnt line eyes
@khav11
@khav11 4 жыл бұрын
@@philoindo9438 natives are originally from asian countries and russia arabs are white passing, jews are white passing. anything else?
@3flyte_3flyte
@3flyte_3flyte Жыл бұрын
Conservatives are to blame, mostly.
@andrewlankford9634
@andrewlankford9634 4 жыл бұрын
5:10 Whoa. Where's your statistical evidence to back up that assertion?
@shivammore6953
@shivammore6953 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but she deliberately or not but she show Indians in statistics as they're lot richer than other asians . Whatever race has nothing to do with money because there poor Indian Americans who will face problem because of such statistics .
@Joseph-uh9gk
@Joseph-uh9gk 7 жыл бұрын
Just a thought but maybe this notion of Asian Americans being foreigners has to do with them being perceived as insular to their cultures. All people congregate around their own ethnic group. The way to stop stereotypes is beginning with individuals. As a person who isn't Asian just from personal experience the people who do the best in school are Asian. Stereotypes die off when they are no longer true.
@athipot6095
@athipot6095 5 жыл бұрын
But stereotypes mean that there some truth to it, stereotype doesn't mean myth, and asians got to score higher than whites blacks and browns, to go to the same school, and as in score high i mean this, say u had to score 500 pts on the sat test to pass, if an asian person scored 500 they wouldnt pass we would have to score 600 to pass and thats the governments rules.
@657111221
@657111221 7 жыл бұрын
Oh what lovely wars we are going to have in the future!
@alvincay100
@alvincay100 7 жыл бұрын
It's not a myth if statistics back it up. In particular I would call her attention to the gender wage gap, which for Asian women is essentially non-existent.
@astrophysx7523
@astrophysx7523 7 жыл бұрын
Being the speaker of a TED talk doesn't exactly help with your argument...
@RAralar
@RAralar 5 жыл бұрын
Yes we are
@atlnla4112
@atlnla4112 4 жыл бұрын
She misunderstood the “What are you” question. That question (grammatically incorrectly asked) is commonly simply a way of finding out a person’s ethnicity. The question should not have been seen as a discriminatory question, but rather of curiosity about her ethnicity. Basically the question was “Are you Chinese, Korean, Japanese, or some other Asian descent?”
@rachellee1266
@rachellee1266 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. But at the same time I wonder how a European American would react if asked the same question. It makes sense in the context of asking an Asian American because that is a question we are used to. But if that was asked to a European American, of which have just as many different nationalities within them, the question might not be as obvious to them because it's not something that is acceptable to ask. Only the second way of phrasing it would be acceptable.
@jcwt_pdx
@jcwt_pdx 4 жыл бұрын
That’s why mean people are sick in the head!
@dominion8998
@dominion8998 4 жыл бұрын
east asian is model minority
@dr.leesanatomyacademy5405
@dr.leesanatomyacademy5405 3 жыл бұрын
I embrace all the stereotypes, thank you. I don't have any of those. Maybe the driving thing.
@carsonchan5102
@carsonchan5102 4 жыл бұрын
please stop identifying yourself as an asian-american. you are an human being. you deserve basic respect regardless of ethinicity, age, and gender
@carsonchan5102
@carsonchan5102 4 жыл бұрын
i respect you; of course unless if you are a terrible person
@iskdude9922
@iskdude9922 4 жыл бұрын
No she's an asian american
@beactivebehappy9894
@beactivebehappy9894 2 жыл бұрын
@@carsonchan5102 The person you were talking about is exactly below your reply lol
@blaby4ever
@blaby4ever 3 жыл бұрын
50% was about Asian (in-group) income between Asians. 50% was about racism. 0% was on the model minority.
@dpatra7081
@dpatra7081 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Still not sure what the myth is exactly lol
@diminie_chimket
@diminie_chimket 6 ай бұрын
So you didn't listen. Got it.
@YesitisDex
@YesitisDex 4 жыл бұрын
I love Asian Americans..,or just people in general like this. My "competition" is next to none 😂
@revconyers4333
@revconyers4333 6 жыл бұрын
The fact that someone coined a phrase , model minority , means you are supposed to live up to it's expectation , screw that and just do your best to please God almighty with your own individual life , that's all that matters!
@joseclaudioclaudio5334
@joseclaudioclaudio5334 6 жыл бұрын
I am an advanved English student, l need the highest son my computador is in last volume please help- me!
@diosdadoapias
@diosdadoapias 7 жыл бұрын
only for chinese descent notbother asian race
@lilywu6208
@lilywu6208 3 жыл бұрын
And Japanese and Korean
@andrewlankford9634
@andrewlankford9634 4 жыл бұрын
Race always matters. Just like my belly button does.
@silvretsartusende4078
@silvretsartusende4078 7 жыл бұрын
Of course there are outliers but stereotype accuracy is based on some pretty rigid foundations.
@nicolelee2230
@nicolelee2230 5 жыл бұрын
honestly, im sick of all the asian stereotypes going around.
@shivammore6953
@shivammore6953 4 жыл бұрын
You can happily leave country
@nicolelee2230
@nicolelee2230 4 жыл бұрын
@@shivammore6953 ??
@ehabbayoumi4925
@ehabbayoumi4925 3 жыл бұрын
@@shivammore6953 He has every right to be sick of whatever he's sick of. Also, you telling him to leave the country is pretty fascist and neo-nationalistic... How are y'all (Right-Wing/Alt-Right) going to talk about "freedom of speech" and then tell people to leave the country who don't agree with you?
@hellokitty8552
@hellokitty8552 6 жыл бұрын
her stats seem off..
@athipot6095
@athipot6095 5 жыл бұрын
In what way?
@johnvtram
@johnvtram 4 жыл бұрын
A teach at harvard
@Ultimate_Brader
@Ultimate_Brader 6 жыл бұрын
Lie: 12 years old don’t allow to drive
@sharonavictoria7155
@sharonavictoria7155 3 жыл бұрын
LANGUAGE🤑 First of all indigenous blacks aren't minorities or immigrants 📌
@lovesonmyside2184
@lovesonmyside2184 6 жыл бұрын
Why does she have Pull African Americans in it, smmh
@athipot6095
@athipot6095 5 жыл бұрын
Whats wrong with that, them facts hurt u in some way?
@ehabbayoumi4925
@ehabbayoumi4925 3 жыл бұрын
@@athipot6095 sometimes it can be obsessive and weird.
@athipot6095
@athipot6095 3 жыл бұрын
@@ehabbayoumi4925 yea this shouldn't even be a problem in the first place
@SeeHang
@SeeHang 4 жыл бұрын
Whoa data about hmong hmong people. Interesting.
@freedomofspeech75
@freedomofspeech75 7 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with stereotype ! just don't force yourself into it . It has to come naturally with skill and training. ask yourself this : "winning in summer olympic 4x100 free relay in swimming" is american stereotype ? don't fall into it ?
@jessica2575
@jessica2575 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for ruining stuff Ronald Regan
@whitleypedia
@whitleypedia 4 жыл бұрын
Desperate to get some grievance points aren't you
@user-rc3ii4jd8v
@user-rc3ii4jd8v 3 жыл бұрын
what do you mean?
@lecruset
@lecruset 4 жыл бұрын
The irony of her pointing to the disparities of varying ethnicity groups among Asians. So it would seem that even among Asian Americans the biggest indicator of economic success is not based upon race but education and work ethic. For instance, the Hmong (37% have a high school education), versus Japanese (98% higher education); seems like education and not ethnicity is the determinant for higher income.
@EugeneTChu
@EugeneTChu 4 жыл бұрын
The actual reason is the history of the groups. Japanese immigrants have been in US since early 20th century. Hmong refugees arrived late after Vietnam War in 1970s. Japanese have had head start with assimilation attempts while Hmong still struggle with poverty due to struggles to remain in school while caring for family members
@wanglee21
@wanglee21 3 жыл бұрын
It's sad that none of these videos have ever gone viral even after covid hate against Asians.
@fee1776
@fee1776 6 жыл бұрын
Older generations of Chinese Americans of the past wished that American recognized Chinese were smart people and not the sick man of Asia. In the 1950's Chinese stereotype was either laundry man or runs a small chop suey take out. One way Chinese Americans fought bigotry and prejudice was academic and economical achievement. It was a generational struggle. My father never finished HS, both parents ran a laundry mat in the 1950's in suburbia NJ. Four of his kids went to state college. No Ivy League schools. Two of his sons served in the US military as officers thru the ROTC program as a way to pay for college. His only grandson just graduated with honors from RIT and employed as an electrical engineer. Maybe his great grand children will build on this and be the first to get advanced degrees. Most Asian Americans have achieved this reputation and now the American colleges and culture are trying to discourage it? Ms Li, stop feeling guilty. There is no shame in this reputation. Learn to use it to your advantage to seek economic opportunities that many in this country do not have.
@athipot6095
@athipot6095 5 жыл бұрын
U see none has anything to say to this comment lol what a bunch of haters....
@thetelemarkdaydream8896
@thetelemarkdaydream8896 7 жыл бұрын
Asian privilege is extremely prevalent in public schools. This transfers directly into the work force.
@juliewang5505
@juliewang5505 7 жыл бұрын
that is so true
@volitionluvr
@volitionluvr 7 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as “Asian privilege”. Please take the time to research the demographic among poverty rates, casting within mainstream movie industries, employment records, and poverty rates among all Asian groups. You will find that you are very mistaken.
@manasareddy3640
@manasareddy3640 4 жыл бұрын
The privilege they enjoy is due to sheer hard work. You don’t see Asians looting stores during hurricanes like some others! Not even the poor ones, not even back home!
@patrickmao1488
@patrickmao1488 7 жыл бұрын
Hmm... You're having a problem with being on the positive side of a stereotype? Sounds a lot like first world problems to me.
@nyc9721
@nyc9721 7 жыл бұрын
Patrick Mao its more like people make these positive traits as if it's a bad thing and mock us like we're aliens or some shit
@Marie-md5yj
@Marie-md5yj 7 жыл бұрын
Patrick Mao Also ppl use this "positive stereotype" to silence others while perfectly ignoring thee fact that 1. Not all asians are model minorities 2. All minorities don't face the same problems. Tho the struggles may be similar yes, but using one's success to silence another about their struggle(ie due to the institutionalised racism) is not a compliment. What the Ted talk didn't touch on was the use of this very stereotype that perpetuate Asians as token minorities against other minorities.
@Marie-md5yj
@Marie-md5yj 7 жыл бұрын
Lee 1997 I'm sure nobody want to feel like a walking stereotype be it positive or negative:)
@cherrilynnlelezhang3856
@cherrilynnlelezhang3856 7 жыл бұрын
A positive stereotype is still a stereotype. Not living up to that stereotype can be incredibly damaging, I've seen the effects in myself and my friends. Having a positive stereotype minimizes some success and worsens loss. If I have good grades someone will say it's because I'm Asian. If I get bad ones it made me feel like I was failing my race and culture. Tell me how is that good?
@patrickmao1488
@patrickmao1488 7 жыл бұрын
haha, get over it guys. It's not a big deal. LOL
@daniraving8610
@daniraving8610 7 жыл бұрын
American dream or a continual discriminated dream.
@MIDOGALI
@MIDOGALI 5 жыл бұрын
What is there to complain about here? Really ... you had an interview and said you were a good student ... but no that fits the stereotype that you're just like every other Asian around ... next time tell people that you smoke crack and panhandle for food in your free time, and then life will be sooo much better for you! It must be SO hard being ASIAN and having parents look out for your education. Society is completely against you and is giving you first world problem after first world problem! And I love it when she thinks that Asians suffer from this 'perpetual foreigner syndrome''. This is exactly how they treat and classify anybody who isn't Chinese, Japanes, Korean... They come from outsiderish cultures yet hate it when another culture might do that to them? They can give it but not take it ... but they're not taking it. Asians have integrated far better into Western countries than their countries accept non Asians. Pot, kettle.
@athipot6095
@athipot6095 5 жыл бұрын
Yes she fits the stereotype, but there are problems, nobody care about asian people we arn't even looked at as a minority, everything we trend is a joke, people see whites and blacks as full american your not gonna ask them were they're from? U assume they are from here. Asians get robbed alot cuz they think we are week, i've been asked if i was a gang member when im not even claiming anything of the sort. Open up your mind just a tiny bit. Shes talking about people like you....
@diminie_chimket
@diminie_chimket 6 ай бұрын
Lol let me guess, you're white or something? Of course you wouldn't understand that Asians are still discriminated against.
@PerciusLive
@PerciusLive 7 жыл бұрын
Its sad how this is still a thing. It should just be a joke at this point like playing the "race card" when something goes wrong in all the right ways to make it funny
@harbinger9072
@harbinger9072 7 жыл бұрын
These Ted talks... It's like us white people are some advanced race of Aliens to be studied and reacted to by the Earthlings...
@katelynnehansen8115
@katelynnehansen8115 6 жыл бұрын
Harbinger 😂😂😂😂 no
@nikmuhamadizzat9903
@nikmuhamadizzat9903 6 жыл бұрын
It jews
@athipot6095
@athipot6095 5 жыл бұрын
Nope u guys just did it better but paying for it now in some ways lol
@kay8x
@kay8x 2 жыл бұрын
Don care
@BitchChocker
@BitchChocker 7 жыл бұрын
She's absolutely right....model minority, when you see some Asians collect recyclables to make ends meet
@cherrilynnlelezhang3856
@cherrilynnlelezhang3856 7 жыл бұрын
Europa Man I guess you shouldn't be in the us either just leave it to the native Americans
@uncommercialtraveller4057
@uncommercialtraveller4057 7 жыл бұрын
Bitch Chocker There's bottom feeders in every race. However, the Blacks have much more bottom feeders than East Asians do. Do you see any Blacks collecting garbage to make extra cash? No.
@athipot6095
@athipot6095 5 жыл бұрын
It depends where u live too....
@guysovereign
@guysovereign 7 жыл бұрын
Asian women don't face discrimination or racism. They benefit from racial stereotypes.
@livics610
@livics610 4 жыл бұрын
But there are studies about average i.q. and all the spots are taken by E Asians so it's not only in u.s. this. You really are the model ppl what's wrong with that?!
@akinpedro5469
@akinpedro5469 4 жыл бұрын
But IQ tests are fundamentally flawed and don't measure the many kinds of intelligence a person can have?
@livics610
@livics610 4 жыл бұрын
Bla bla. E Asians are the most intelligent, deal with that
@thelegend27yes15
@thelegend27yes15 4 жыл бұрын
@@livics610 Proof? The study for those kind of tests were outright guesses a lot of times and other times they were flawed
@shivammore6953
@shivammore6953 4 жыл бұрын
Not true because IQ is very broad thing because same race can vary very much from bottom to top and also it depends on education and family values .
@ШломоНетаньяху
@ШломоНетаньяху 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Asians, is it also SO HARD for you to study math like us?
@3flyte_3flyte
@3flyte_3flyte Жыл бұрын
It was. I needed glasses but couldn't afford them as a kid.
@dattape2828
@dattape2828 7 жыл бұрын
Why does TED tell young Asians talk? They know absolutely nothing about American life. Bring out the older Asians....
@stevenliang3213
@stevenliang3213 6 жыл бұрын
Your Pal : Age discrimination, your assumption is young people are not as smart as their older counterparts. Young people are smart too. Get your head out of the gutter.
@t.thomas6967
@t.thomas6967 6 жыл бұрын
Then stop calling yourself Asian- Americans. Just put any energy into it.
@athipot6095
@athipot6095 5 жыл бұрын
That's right they are americans like the rest of us
@tatriceshipp9139
@tatriceshipp9139 5 жыл бұрын
Just like African American
@ElleBellsChannel
@ElleBellsChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Struggles are different
@SinoLegionaire
@SinoLegionaire 4 жыл бұрын
Yes we are and we don't apologize for it.
@ehabbayoumi4925
@ehabbayoumi4925 3 жыл бұрын
I smell YT person pretending to be Asian because most Asians hate that stereotype... most Asians are starting to fight that stereotype, because it undermines all of the negative things they actually go through. Nice try bub, I could be wrong... You may actually be Asian, and if that's the case have fun being "smart"
@SinoLegionaire
@SinoLegionaire 3 жыл бұрын
@@ehabbayoumi4925 I am an East Asian nationalist I am just proud of my race.
@ehabbayoumi4925
@ehabbayoumi4925 3 жыл бұрын
@@SinoLegionaire Wow, proud of something you had no control over? Seems legit.
@SinoLegionaire
@SinoLegionaire 3 жыл бұрын
@@ehabbayoumi4925 It is warranted because our race is not taken seriously, is constantly treated as a laughing stock, and race betraying harlots are making us go extinct.
@ehabbayoumi4925
@ehabbayoumi4925 3 жыл бұрын
@@SinoLegionaire Okay, you're deff not asian lmao you gotta be some YT troll now... Without a doubt! No asian would ever say something like that.
@Ossiecraft
@Ossiecraft 5 жыл бұрын
she should check her asian priveledge
@EugeneTChu
@EugeneTChu 4 жыл бұрын
1. Correct spelling is "privilege" 2. While Asians do not have socioeconomic issues of poverty like Blacks and Hispanics, they still face discrimination. One analogy is anti-Semitism where middle class majority harbors jealousy and behaves in passive-aggressive manner to minority despite assimilation efforts
@drakezen
@drakezen 7 жыл бұрын
Hold on, she is blaming Western society for a stereotype of asians being a model to achieve? This is called asian privilege. The 'dark side' of this comes from parenting - i.e. Tiger Mom and the expectations within the asian culture for success. Not something to blame America for.
@garyzhong1489
@garyzhong1489 7 жыл бұрын
she was probably born in America and deserves any rights to be called an American just like the rest, and she is tired of being asked "what are you"; how comes that her efforts become blaming "America" as if she were not an American? so tiger mom fucks all Asians up huh? You better blame Compton for the "violence" run in blacks' blood with that same logic next time
@drakezen
@drakezen 7 жыл бұрын
Nobody said she was not American or did not deserve to be considered American. This is only victimhood that you are creating. If I was born in China, as a white person, and was living there. Would I have to be insulted that people ask me if I'm American all the time? Do I then have the right to blame Chinese people for being ignorant? The answer is no, because you have to think rationally. At the same token. Should people be blamed for thinking that she's probably good at playing the piano, good at maths, and will likely be successful? Would that be insulting? Think about it.
@drakezen
@drakezen 7 жыл бұрын
You are assuming that I'm American and white. I'm not. But that is irrelevant. As stated, she is American. But the perception of people are based on the majority and history, which is that Americans are typically white. That is not to say that she isn't. But the viewpoint of being American can be complex as people can see themselves as American, identify yourself as American but also as something else. Generally white Americans do not do this. They are not Irish-American unless they just came over. However, people Asian-American or whatever even after generations. But this is a whole other point. Using stereotypes and racism are two different things, do not mix them up. People catagorize others all the time and have done so through out history. This will NEVER change, and people cannot be blamed for something that is natural. They CAN be blamed for using negative stereotypes to generalize and discriminate. But that's not happening in the case of this girl. As well, the Chinese community also do their own generalization by pushing for their own stereotypes. Are you putting responsibility on them as well?
@drakezen
@drakezen 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with you that the idea of white America must change. And I think it is changing but has not changed enough obviously. There are a lot of things that are yet to be fixed. But relative to most other countries in the world is has done remarkably well for inclusion. Stereotypes are not all bad, so its different from racism. It becomes racism when used to discriminate against someone. But do not think that it is impossible for white people to be discriminated or that it is impossible for there to be racism against them. I disagree that all stereotypes are bad stereotypes. I think this is false. The Chinese community can be partially to blame because of the tiger mom syndrome, and how parents push for their children to fit a mold of doctor, lawyer, etc...being an A student, playing piano and all that. This is not something that white America has pushed on the community, but has noticed - hence the model minority. Similar problems like this can be attributed to other communities who push their own stereotypes and then complain.
@drakezen
@drakezen 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is true. However, she is blaming white America for these positive stereotypes solely, and I think this is wrong. The idea of the brilliant Chinese student is not something manufactured by white America, it is done by the Chinese community. This high expectation from everyone makes this 'positive' stereotype into something bad because not everyone wants to live a life of trying to achieve to be better than the next guy. There is more to life than the rat race, and more to explore than simply constantly competing. But you have to admit that being seen as smart is a better stereotype than to be seen as a lazy race. Even though we all know that all races have smart people and lazy people, sometimes both.
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