WHY Ball Canning LIDS and Jars are in SHORT Supply!

Why is the Ball lids and jars in short supply? Danny talks a little about the history of Ball company and what is causing the short supply of Ball lids and jars.
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[@jswhosoever4533]

Ball said they will start shipping to stores the beginning of March and there should be plenty. They're opening a new plant too.

[@KLU421]

I hope so, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

[@peggykush6972]

That is good news.

[@judyhowell7075]

We’ve already found ours at Walmart, my garage is stacked for this year. I can breathe now.

[@justme8108]

@@judyhowell7075 Me, too.

[@catherinebennet]

I’m not expecting it. I normally buy my lids the year before. So I’m behind. I’ve been checking every time I go to the store.

[@tomjones4318]

Canning is just as much a part of "national security" as railroads and oil reserves ... for we the people. When government want's to "secure" you rather than provide security we the people have a problem.

[@justme8108]

Damn right. I wish people would learn this. I guess the Great Depression didn't leave enough of an impression.

[@mainemama1015]

Amen!

[@SuperReznative]

Speaking of narional security... B. Gates is the largest land owner, & says he wants to change the way Americans eat, ( good luck with the GMO Frankinfood peeps), and he is buying up railroads... Yikes Agenda 21. & research Agenda 2030..🙏🙏🇨🇦❤️🙋

[@tomjones4318]

@@SuperReznative Amazing how all these people lining up for socialism think they'll be getting the wealthy people's stuff. It's the billionaire/Davos crowd pushing socialism. Gates wouldn't be buying all the land in America if there was any chance he was going to have to give it all away to socialism. Gates friend Buffet owns the RR that hauls Canadian oil. That's why biden canceled the pipeline. One scam after another.

[@farmerdude3578]

A very big problem. And growing.

[@ursamajor1936]

My folks grew up in the depression and they always said time was money. If you had no money to use, use your time to save money. I still live that way and I've taught it to my kids too.

[@marystrong8241]

What do you mean by this? I feel I have so much to learn.

[@redeemedbygrace9236]

@@marystrong8241 growing & canning your own food. Sewing your own clothes. These take time but save money.

[@christinesavage8382]

I try to live by this. Thank you for your post.

[@lusnorthernhome3410]

I keep my lids that are used. Mainly use them for storing dehydrated stuff. But if push comes to shove I will use them over .

[@TheSHOP411]

I have reused lids more than three times. I have had a few failures, but if you don't bend them, the work just fine.

[@kathyhartje9510]

This is a cap that fits over the lids

[@oldtimerlee8820]

I've found that undamaged used lids work well with my FoodSaver vacuum sealer.

[@kathyhartje9510]

I'm not talking about canning lids!!

[@oldtimerlee8820]

@@kathyhartje9510 ???

[@maggiereese1053]

I remember in 1975 my Mom, Grandma and, Aunts all scrambling to find lids. That is why I am actively covering all 1,500 of my jars with Harvest Guard lids (with a few old school Tattlers thrown in). Self sufficient is not that if you rely on someone for lids. I had a three year learning curve to get to a 100% seal rate but, even in the beginning it would only be maybe one that failed to seal and I just cooked it for supper that night when it happened. I don't waste my money on one time use lids anymore. They say the rubber gaskets are good for 7 uses but, I have some that are 7 years old and been used a couple dozen times. As long as it seals and stays sealed, I keep using that gasket. I pressure can meats and vegies as well as water bath with them.

[@Alexis_9339]

Any tips for a newbie? Just ordered some a few days ago. The research seems to be that they can’t give a time frame because they aren’t tested but there have been people that have been using tattler at least for 10 years and the gaskets are still fine.

[@ursamajor1936]

I use the Tattlers too. You just seal them after removing them as we did with the old rubber ring and bail jars.

[@redsak5311]

I love the gasket lids. Why people are hesitant to try them, baffles me.

[@jennwatson74]

I love my tattlers, I just canned venison with them last week!💞

[@justme8108]

I was canning in 75' when the lid shortage hit, and all the farm wives and town women were calling everyone, to see who had any extra lids. They were in a panic. My mother, who rarely was upset, handed out lids to many people, and worried at the time about the next years supply. She refused to try Tattler, who had just began to come out with their lids. --- On canning day, what ever doesn't seal is the meal.

[@shilohkid4909]

Came here to find out about the jar shortage, ended up with a complete education on jars and lids. Thank you Sir.

[@GwynneDear]

I inherited all my grandfathers jars and his pressure canner that has wooden handles after he passed in January. I was already on my canning journey before covid, but I ramped it up when the shut down happened. I’m pretty sure grandpa was watching out for me on that one.

[@bevs9995]

so, does that mean thats lids used to be re-usable, or did you only inherit the jars??

[@CEODieCryHate]

I was at my local hardware store today, and their canning section was fully stocked. It was the first time in over a year I've seen that.

[@justme8108]

Good to know. What state?

[@CEODieCryHate]

@@justme8108 Boone County, Arkansas

[@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123]

Same here, in park rapids Minnesota, fleet store fully stocked.

[@justme8108]

@@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123 You are so lucky.

[@GinaSiska]

Danny, I’ve been meaning to tell you how enjoyable your cadence is, you have an intrinsic ability for teaching!

[@Emeraldwitch30]

I have to agree. I often put him and Ms Wanda on auto advance when I'm having trouble sleeping. Its like having a nap at your family gathering surrounded by family. Comforting and soothing.

[@GinaSiska]

@@Emeraldwitch30 I do the same thing!!

[@DeepSouthHomestead]

Thanks everyone.

[@sljallen]

@@Emeraldwitch30 We use to call that personality "laid back". Lol

[@justpatty7328]

AGREED! Straight forward knowledge given with encouragement to provide for ourselves. Thank you!

[@marybethham4967]

Good educational video and agree with you. I’m seeing more people wanting to grow and can. I’m 66 and younger ones are asking questions which is a real good thing.

[@marshabryant9429]

Danny thanks to you I have had plenty of lids because of a remark you made a couple of years ago about how if you and Wanda happened to be in a store that you would pick up at least 5 boxes of lids. Well I am so glad I listened and started doing the same. Looking forward to this garden season.

[@buckeyebandit89]

To bad they will never be under $2.00 a box though.

[@DeepSouthHomestead]

This is another reason we are starting to freeze dry our food.

[@joeyhardin1288]

Thanks, I do the same. I am not a hoarder, I am an opportunistic buyer. God Bless, stay safe. P.S. Wish I could afford a freeze dryer.

[@ItsGoTime23]

Ditto.. I keep 1000 extra lids on hand which does about 1.5 years in advance for me. Because I've always known something would spark up a mass buy out..

[@lusnorthernhome3410]

I use the Classico spaghetti sauce jars over. They worked fine in my pressure canner.

[@Emeraldwitch30]

My daughter saves them for me as it is her favorite brand when I run out of home made.

[@heidimisfeldt5685]

Those are canning jars.

[@peggykush6972]

The jar has the word Mason, therefore it is a canning jar. I also use them for pressure canning.

[@ursamajor1936]

I reuse the Prego garden style jars for dehydrated veggies. I like the measuring Mark's on the side of the jars.

[@johnmcginnis5201]

@@peggykush6972 Actually the term 'Mason' referred to the continuous threading. That was the patent mark back in the day. Patent long gone, people still refer to the threading as mason. The term itself has no relation to its suitability for pressure canning. That said, I have used Classico jars for years pressure, water and steam canning. Have never had one break. Fact in the last 10 years the only jar that I have had break during canning was a Kerr jar. :) I reuse them mostly for tomatoes, pickles, relishes.

[@peachyplanner4834]

I have jars that my grandparents used, passed to my parents and now myself and my sister use them. I even have my grandmas canner plus my own. I feel blessed to have jars of several sizes and two pressure canners. They are used yearly. Thanks for the update, I check often for more lids. I’ve always used the American made lids. God bless!

[@estaelmore668]

how often do you replace the rubber gaskets?

[@peachyplanner4834]

@@estaelmore668 I haven’t replaced the rubber on my grandmothers yet but it needs to be replaced, I haven’t used her canner as much recently. My canner was purchased a few months ago so it doesn’t need replacing.

[@theresam567]

You might be rich with those older jars. You heard him say they could be worth several hundred per jar depending on age.

[@kaebella2259]

You are blessed because your family taught you how to feed yourself, especially in a crisis. I know zero about canning. Don't know how to can, what to can, how long to can, supply amount, etc, All of it is intimidating.

[@bevs9995]

so, does that mean thats lids used to be re-usable, or did you only inherit the jars??

[@parnellbeth]

I am blessed to do a lot of my canning in jars my grandmother had in the 1940's, the best jars I own. If I ever have a broken jar it is usually a golden harvest made in china. I belong to a facebook canning group that 2 yrs ago very few ppl reused lids. 2020 changed that and now lots of folks on there are having good seals with reuse. I grew up reusing them 3-4times each but lids were made SO much better back then. I have enough I didn't have any concerns last year, but.... when I open a jar if I don't see a lot of rust I will put it back in a "just in case" drawer.

[@carolmartin2503]

THANKS FOR THAT INFO ~ I'm going to reuse this year and hopefully as long as I am 'active' & busy!

[@lovenotes5299]

In the last 2 months Ball supplies have been available- they are building a new plant that will run 24/7 . Ball company was sold quite a few times

[@cathyann6835]

Still can't find lids in my area. The last ones I bought that had the ball label was different than the older ones. I know they changed them to remove bpa from the seal. They're lighter red and thinner. I had 2 out of 12 jar failures after they sealed this week. I just ordered reusable and will learn a new way. I'm tired of spending all my time searching for lids. I bought new jars with lids to be able to can while I have jars sitting empty because I can't find lids.

[@captron7814]

Rubbermaid currently owns ball

[@daviddionne8296]

@@captron7814 And Rubbermaid....not answerers to China..... Sad.

[@annj7021]

My farm and fleets all stocked up on Ball canning supplies I bought a bunch of lid . I only reuse my Lids on dehydrated stuff not for canning

[@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123]

Same here, our L&M fleet in Park Rapids MN has a lot of cases, a little higher in price but not terrible....$13.99 for a case of quart jars, $12.99 pints.

[@lindathompson5464]

My husband watches a program that is called "Moonshiners ". The other day they were looking for jars to put their moonshine in. It was hysterical.

[@jycfrnkl]

That's pretty funny.

[@tmcgee1614]

I like to have a dozen jars of moonshine you could use it to barter with

[@lindathompson5464]

@@tmcgee1614 True

[@MsLippy]

Those gold ones do rust on us as well, and I went through all my boxes and found none that didn’t have USA, so We got blessed on that. Blessings Yall❤️

[@tinacreekmore6959]

My husband and I work construction. I'm 63 and my husband is 66. We work for two people. One is a real estate broker, the other is a mortgage broker. They buy and sell homes. We come across old canning jars alot. Just so happens we do alot of canning. Just the seals we need.

[@beverlymichael5830]

You have your facts correct about the Ball company. I am from Muncie still live right outside the city. Ball came from New York during the gas boom in this area at turn of the century. They had their headquarters here in a Muncie until sometime in 90’s and moved headquarters to Colorado. They have various manufacturing plants of various things around the country. The jars were made here in Muncie until they sold the jar business.

[@Crystalslife734]

My grandma worked at the ball canning jar place in Muncie in.

[@efzapp7]

I've been seeing lids in the stores lately. I buy when I see them but I'll only buy 1 or 2 packs and not all they have because I know I'm not the only canner around. I am very careful when removing the lids because I will use them when I'm storing dry items in a jar. Last week I was canning some pinto beans and was 1 jar short to fill the canner. I put a jar filled with water to fill the canner. I used one of the lids I'd already used pressure canning and it sealed. So I'm keeping the sterilized water.

[@sylviasmith5087]

My small WalMart had 1 pack of pints, 2 packs of quarts, and 2 packs of half pints today, along with several packs of wide mouth rims and lids. NO regular canning lids or rims at all.

[@lovebikesmustride]

Down here in New Zealand, we are in harvest season. Canning like crazy and the good quality made in USA or Canada lids are hard to get. The Chinese made lids have really thin seals and don't seal well. I buy my lids in winter and early spring, while they are still on the shelves and even then I'm just buying for use in three years time.

[@ErnieHatmaker]

It's so good that you tell people the difference between the slick jars versus the ones with the seams!

[@lindacapen500]

Ball actually came out with one called " smooth " last couple of years. I have a few cases of them.

[@bevs9995]

whats the difference, whats a brand for the slick jars?

[@laurab8547]

I was lucky that I found lids at our local Walmart just yesterday. They had both wide and regular. This is the firs time I've seen that many since the "lid drought" began. I bought four boxes of each.

[@lynhanna917]

the secret to having great success with Tattler lids is that you have to increase the head space by 1/4 inch. So if the recipe calls for head space of 1/2 inch with Tattler you need that head space to be 3/4 inch. In Canada they have sold canning jars not made in Canada or USA and these jars are much lighter than the one's made in USA or Canada. I won't buy these jars but fortunately I have a stash of canning lids (1000 plus) so I will just wait out this shortage.

[@justme8108]

I have a huge amount, but will purchase more when they are available. Don't want to wait to see another shortage.

[@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123]

Also with Tattler or Harvest Guard lids, not only increasing headspace but also just barely screw on the ring then after processing tighten it. There is a learning curve but they are worth the effort to learn how to use and have stored up, if the government says canning isn’t safe and stops production, we go to war or who knows what can happen....we might face no production of lids 🤷🏼‍♀️ Just a tip for those using the reusable Tattler or Harvest Guard lids. The rubber ring can be used up to 10 times, be careful to not damage it when opening the jar and put a little line on it with a sharpie to keep track how many times you’ve used it. And also to get a feel for using them without risking wasting food, just can some water for a few practice runs.

[@justme8108]

@@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123 Yes, there is a learning curve. I have used them since the 80's and am used to the originals, rather than the EZ-Seal ones. But, yes, the tightening process and the after processing tightening is the secret. I have the buttons ones fail on me about every 50 jars or so. I got the color Tattlers in green, and pink, but not the red ones. That was years ago. I sent some to the KZbin Channel : Little Urban Homestead, and you can see some of the green and pink lids in her latest video. She is in the UK

[@glendavertner8906]

Danny, you scared me so bad today. I recently bought Ball Lids and the combo packs of lids and rings on Amazon. I just checked them, they do have the red rubber seals and the box says Made in the USA THANK GOD 🙏🙏🙏 I did specify Made in the USA on my Amazon search. I began canning for the first time in 1975. Of course I had to purchase everything! My grocery store had a sale on E-Z Pack jars, I purchased 20 boxes of a dozen jars. I even have Mom's Jars and many Ball and Kerr Jars. I bought a lot of jars at Odd Lots too. I think the next year there was a shortage of lids. All I could buy were the Zinc lids with the glass top and red caskets. I only have a couple of those left now. Wish I had all that I purchased in 1976-77. I learned a lot about canning in those 1st couple of years. Thank you so much for your advice I never reuse lids for canning. Have a blessed evening, stay safe and healthy 🙏🥰👍👌🙏🦅🔔🗽🇺🇸🙏🇺🇸🙏

[@nmdispatchlady]

I have several Atlas 1/2 gallon jars with the 2 piece glass "flat" and a ring. I don't use them for canning but I do use them for storage. Love the look of them. Thanks for the info. God bless

[@graceandglory1948]

My grandmother used melted wax to seal her homemade jam.

[@onelittlemiracle241]

I see people on KZbin recommending jars from dollar tree, etc. Absolutely not, especially for pressure canning. Who knows where they’re from and they’re obviously thinner glass compared to Ball, Kerr.

[@Jomama02]

They say right on the bottom NOT for pressure canning. I wouldn't even water bath in them for very long.

[@lisalowe6922]

@@tinkercooper1332 good to know

[@kristyhowarth584]

I use anchor from the Dollar Tree and also reuse glass jars from condiments. I make sure to use them for water bath canning and dry good saving therefor saving my Ball jars for pressure canning.

[@nancygould6789]

I was surprised to see, made in America on the dollar tree canning jars but they didn't look as thick to me.

[@onelittlemiracle241]

@@kristyhowarth584 I’ve seen people post about using Classico pasta sauce jars, but haven’t tried it. My mom water bath canned in glass mayonnaise jars when I was a child. I remember having to wash the mayonnaise out of them and thought it was absolutely disgusting. 😁

[@edsmith4414]

This made me go out to the canning jar cabinet we store empty jars in and look at the inventory sheet on lids. 160 dozen small mouth and 502 dozen wide mouth. In 2020, from wife's inventory sheet, we canned 262 jars, a mix of small and wide mouth pints and quarts..carrots, green beans, bacon, pears, apple slices, apple sauce, sausage, tomatoes, tomato paste. We freeze a lot of stuff in 6 chest freezers, and root cellar potatoes and apples for as long as they will keep.

[@nolacockerham4823]

FYI, some of the lids sold by China have white seals but some of them are red. You can’t let the color be the deciding factor . . .

[@villagesteader3552]

Yikes...I’d better go check.

[@DeepSouthHomestead]

Yes look for made in USA.

[@jgjg3848]

The deciding factor should be to NOT but from China. We're in this mess thanks to their government.

[@lusnorthernhome3410]

I remember the 1970’s canning supply shortage. We had family mail us lids that they had extra. And that was a rarity back then. We had to freeze stuff we normally didn’t. We used that up first because we always went hunting and depended our meat for winter.

[@justme8108]

I remember it, too. We had thousands, as we did 3,500 jars a year, for 49 family members. Neighbors and towns people were calling everyone, to see who had lids. We ended up giving lots of lids to neighbors. Tattler came out then, but my mother refused to try them. I use Harvest Guard and Tattler, along with my ball/Kerr lids.

[@cogit8able]

My mom scored some gaskets for her old zinc lids which worked but she put me to work with the steel wool because they had oxidized a bit in storage.

[@EMTRailfan]

This plandemic has opened a lot of eyes on self-reliance. One thing that this shortage has against it vs. the shortage in the 70s is that the 70s didn't have the convenience of the Internet allowing vultures to scoop up all of the canning supplies, toilet paper, etc., and then flip it for 200-300% mark up.

[@justme8108]

I am very pleased with all the new people coming into canning. One person who contacted me for jars, said his 95 year old mother wanted to can tomatoes one last time, and they didn't have jars. At the end, we got her jars, and she had some great canning pictures.

[@PinballPreparedness]

I got a box and it had a spelling error on the "instructions". Those came from Amazon and were counterfeits.

[@makeitreal4848]

I have Mylar bags from Amazon, really bad quality,I will not use it,

[@Chickenmom777]

Try to stop getting items from Amazon. They are sneaky

[@markparadis496]

Yeah we got snagged by those false lids too from amazon. Wish they had a country of manufacture on the amazon website. We noticed once order was placed that shipping was from china. Tried to cancel but the company disappeared. These were half as thick as the ball lids.

[@TheRainHarvester]

@@markparadis496 Are "main stays"lids from Wal-Mart any good?

[@markparadis496]

@@TheRainHarvester never tried them. I have a love hate relationship with canning. I love having food stores and ready meals for the family for everyday use and in case of tough times like the shortages we experienced last spring. However safety is always of concern for me. Afraid of getting people I care about sick. So I only use ball brand. This is just my paranoia and not anything against Main stays. Even though walmart imports a lot they definitely have better quality control than Amazon’s china fakes. I’d be interested in someone’s take on these and also the plastic reusable ones too (tatler I think is what they are called)

[@GossMania]

I'm still trying to find some lids myself. Praying the supply picks up so that everyone can get what they need. Thanks for the history of the company I never knew of any of it. Love y'all

[@Emeraldwitch30]

I just hope they don't sacrifice quality for speed. A few years ago I had problems with ball lids losing their seal. I was not the only one. The rebel canner group I am a member of also had issues. All complaints were replied to with "User error."

[@TXJan0057]

I water bath in used lids that were only used in water bath originally not pressure canning. I also water bath can jellies and high acid foods in used commercial jars. Never had a failure.

[@caddycraft6823]

I have reused my canning lids with 100% success so far and I have been canning over 30 years. I mark my lids each time I use them and Im very careful with them... Funny thing I have reused some store spaghetti sauce ones when I ran out of jars etc, and they sealed too so win-win for something I wasn't counting on but was blessed with. That was just an experiment with the extras I have for when I have too much and is really meant to be used right away, like give to neighbors too. It totally works and I'm just as happy for just trying it and having another option if needed. Glad to here I'm not the only one trying to reduce waste here and save. I can because I need to, still wouldn't choose differently either.

[@Cdngardengirl]

The canning flush during the '70's was part of the 'back to the land' movement that encouraged bread baking, canning and gardening. Today we call it 'homesteading'. I was sort of a prepper when the lid shortage happened then and had enough on hand while my neighbours went house to house asking if anyone had any snap lids to sell. As for outlawing home canning, I've been doing it over 50 years and no one can tell me I'd poison myself or others. As for reusing lids, it's best done by people who really know what they're doing rather than novices. Another good brand of pressure canning jar are the Atlas jars that sauces come in. They say mason on them somewhere in smaller letters and I've never had a jar burst.

[@justme8108]

I think we are heading to another 'Back To The Land' time. People here (D.C. bedroom community) who had never had a garden, had one in 2020, and then were canning and were asking if anyone had lids, so I traded their tomatoes for my lids. Win -Win

[@susanwells6487]

Caution: Those Atlas jars are not true Quart size. You may need to adjust you canning time slightly.

[@katiemoyer8679]

Mid seventies recession, certainly, however the Back to Nature movement were doing homesteading communes and repopularized canning a bit before that canning supply shortage.

[@ronndapagan]

Thank you for the history lesson about the Ball canning company. I never canned but my mother did when she lived at home on the farm with her parents. My grandparents raised eight children and my grandmother canned everything she could to feed the family. My grandfather plowed the fields and everyone was out planting seeds for the food to harvest. My oldest aunt also canned and grew a garden in the backyard to feed my eight cousins. I have several family members that still can food because it is cost effective and the food is better and healthier to eat. I enjoyed reading all the comments about the topic.

[@onelittlemiracle241]

Thank you for sharing your research, Mr. Danny. I agree. The powers that be, so to speak, want people dependent on the gov’t, not self sufficient. I say, do as much for yourself as humanly possible.

[@apiecemaker1163]

All thruout history, any time there is wars, pandemics, national crisis of any sort, people for a period of time go back to their roots. I did research on this years ago because of my hand quilting. The sad part is they don’t hold on to that. They don’t retain that those are the things that give them peace. The only upside of this is when they tire of their efforts and go back to fast food and buying everything, the ones of us who do this as a longtime lifestyle of choice, can buy supplies that they are ready to discard.

[@oldtimerlee8820]

Well said! Been pressure canning since 1972. Have seen the same thing a couple of times, myself.

[@apiecemaker1163]

@@oldtimerlee8820 Thank you.

[@justpatty7328]

Someone else's trash is my treasure. I wish I could attribute that phrase... I live by it.

[@apiecemaker1163]

@@justpatty7328 I think my favorite thing as far as shopping is a good thrift store. Makes my heart happy to find a little treasure.

[@oldtimerlee8820]

@@justpatty7328 You are not the only one.

[@larrysmith6499]

Thanks for the info. Haven been canning for 45 years. Never knew some of the info you passed on. Thank you so much Danny.😃

[@patriciastern9430]

I picked up 10 cases of quarts at Target last week.

[@paigesteele4406]

It’s the lids that are an issue

[@justme8108]

@@paigesteele4406 Yes, but jars aren't as easy to find as they were before 2020.

[@dorothybrinck9052]

Sometimes I now find it less expensive to buy the jars with the lids than to buy just the lids!

[@ladyridgerunner7788]

@Michelle Hughes Kudos to you! You said "buy SOME" tomorrow. You're being mindful of others' need to also buy some. I saw a youtuber on another channel who must have bought the store out! There couldn't have been many for others after their huge haul! Need more people like you who consider others!

[@cherylanon5791]

Nobody needs jars, we need the lids (and also bands, to lesser degree)

[@sallyintucson]

I taught myself in the mid-“80’s using The Ball Blue Book. My family thought I was crazy. (None of them have a clue how to grow or preserve food in Los Angeles. I live in another state.) Canning became popular again in the early 2000’s. When the virus hit in 2019/2020 was when canning REALLY came back, along with growing their own food.

[@amandaseiber1402]

My husband went to the hardware store a couple days ago and he asked them if they ever got canning jars in and the guy said yes he was getting 30 boxes of Ball jars Friday. Husband said he learned from Danny to just ask. This hardware store didn’t carry jars last year. I’m glad they decided to.

[@laurarowland7926]

I just saw them coming back this week in the stores..I hope that in the future that we are able to get some.more

[@geoffoutdoors]

I'm thankful I have a stock of jars and lids. Thanks for the insight...keep er goin!

[@joannpuckett2060]

You are on target. I have been canning for about 10 years now. Entered in the county and State Fair and have received many ribbons. Ball or Kerr are the only two that I use. Thank you for all your wisdom.

[@Lauradicus]

Thanks for the heads up about Chinese lids.

[@Koolala75]

Thank you.... That was a lot of good info!

[@cogit8able]

I bought and raised chicks for the first time in probably 20 years. Eating the product of my labor tonight.

[@cogit8able]

@GPAGE I don’t generally skin the chicken. I kill it expeditiously by cutting off it’s head and then I scald it and pluck it and eviscerate it and then I can cut it into pieces or roast it whole. I have been eating chicken since I got teeth. I am not so divorced from reality as to not be aware that this is the reality of eating meat. I grew up on a farm. I am aware that chickens I raise myself get to live with access to out of doors in far less crowded conditions than corporately farmed chicken. They also eat organic food without added arsenic. I also hunt. I eat meat. I am not wasteful. I am not so self deceived as to not believe that the corporate farming of all human food sources results in the death of animals and loss of habitat . Pesticide and herbicide kill fish and birds combines that harvest kill larger animals. Trucks that transport vegetables to market kill hundreds of thousands of creatures annually. I have had a few car deer collisions myself. I have had biker friends that didn’t live through bike deer collisions. I also grow vegetables ... organically. It is important to be mindful of our impact. I don’t take an animals life wastefully . I do my utmost to treat and dispatch animals I plan to eat humanely.

[@annwithaplan9766]

There were some people who posted online that where they worked the stores were told NOT to stock the canning supplies, even thought they had them in the back.

[@shirleyfaulkner60]

I bought lids on Amazon, Mason, when I pressured canned with them they buckled! Will never do this again!

[@kerriskitchen4747]

I just started canning and I made that mistake of ordering my lids from Amazon and they were NOT the true Ball lids,

[@danniemcdonald4903]

Thanks for the informative video. I hope the manufacturers get their products out and the truckers get them delivered while they can. Another thing to consider is other canning supplies, such as citric acid, Sire Gel/Pectin, etc. It might also be a good thing to order extra parts for your canner (weight, steam valve, gasket, rack, etc).

[@grannyprepper1181]

Just got back from Walmart and bought 2 boxes of lids...USA made!

[@TheRainHarvester]

Me too. I got "main stays" lids. Are they any good?

[@sandijammes7761]

@@TheRainHarvester If I'm not mistaken, they are made in China.

[@TheRainHarvester]

@@sandijammes7761 yes I saw that on the jar recently. Should I trash them?

[@sandijammes7761]

@@TheRainHarvester I haven't used them yet, I 'm just going by what I've seen on one of the other canning channels I follow. I was basically talking about lids also. I panicked a few months ago & ordered lids from what turned out to be a scam website. They were supposedly Ball lids from their own site, but... no. Took forever, weren't packaged the same way (12 to a little zipper baggie, wide and reg mouth), took FOREVER to get here.. I would be careful with the jars tho. If they aren't made here, I might water/steam bath with them, but not pressure bath. It would be a real heart breaker if the jars shattered & you were putting up expensive meat, etc. Good luck. God bless.

[@technical19d34]

@@sandijammes7761 Alot of the really dumb resellers pack stuff that way, then ship it media mail also which takes forever and could even end up costing you money because it violates the postal regs. They will hand you your package along with a bill in many cases.

[@nancymiller349]

Thank you so much for taking the time to put this video up. God bless.

[@ursamajor1936]

I attended an auction a couple of years ago and was lucky enough to win the bid on two dozen old Ball quart and half gallon jars with zinc lids. Most of them are blue so they're pretty old.

[@theIAMofME]

The problem around here when the jar shortage was happening...people that didn't even CAN were waiting to snatch up the jars and reselling them for Double the price for a profit!! Then, there were those that had never canned a day in their life that thought maybe they might have to at some point and they got them. They will be selling those at yard sales this spring probably. Now the lids are almost impossible to find. I'm sure there are those scoundrels out there again snatching any lids they see and reselling them to take advantage. If I find lids I never take them all. I try to leave a few for someone else. I feel like that is the Godly thing to do. I haven't found lids since right after Christmas and that was in another state!! I might have enough to get me through this upcoming canning season. But, after that..I don't know what I'll do. I tried uline. But, I had never ordered from them before and they weren't selling to NEW customers.

[@juliephelps7616]

I see them on Facebook marketplace for 50.00 a case for quart jars. The people selling said they donate to Veterans a percent of the proceeds. The pictures showed a warehouse full of jars. There is no way I would buy from them. It was price gouging at its worst.

[@lynhanna917]

I bought tubes of lids from Lehmann's. You can check on line to see if they have lids in. Back when Ball had changed the formula of the rubber Lehmann's got in sleeves of lids and they were manufactured in the USA but using a better grade of rubber so your canning was good for years.

[@theIAMofME]

@@lynhanna917 Sadly, they are sold out.

[@chkngrl]

I've been stocking up on metal lids for years, but I've also made a large purchase of tattler lids and getting ready to make a large order from another company called harvest guard.

[@firehorsewoman414]

@@theIAMofME i just make a habit of checking the store I am in and every store on my way home (HEB Atwoods and Walmart for me). Sometimes i get lucky and when i see them i buy them. EDIT: also helps if you can figure out the truck delivery schedules.

[@kathybluxome5514]

Thank you so much for this information! I’m new to this!

[@grinning_owl]

Thank you very much for researching the problem and for sharing the results. God bless you and take care. :-)

[@500dollarjapanesetoaster8]

Yeah, I've seen that pressure canning really "weathers" the lids and bands. BTW, I'd never re-use the lids. I'm more concerned that I still haven't been able to get bulk sleeves of lids (either regular or wide). I did have success shopping around for canning jars between Walmart and Target. Amazon has a lot of junk nowadays, you have to be careful of what you're getting.

[@judyhowell7075]

Are you putting in dishwasher? That brings rust mine, so I hand wash and dry

[@JayP-kd5rc]

@@judyhowell7075 I would always hand wash and dry right away.

[@500dollarjapanesetoaster8]

@@judyhowell7075 I don't have a dishwasher, all hand washing. I think it's good to handle them and really inspect them.

[@danniemcdonald4903]

My order for bulk lids (both regular and wide mouth) have been on back order since last July. The last email I got said that they would be available by" the summer canning season". Fortunately, I have been able to find boxes of lids here and there to fill in in case they don't ship them (I haven't been charged until they ship).

[@donteatthefoxgloves377]

Very informative and pleasant presentation! Thanks for taking the time to put this together. We can’t find lids up here in Oregon right now and I was wondering why. Didn’t expect to get this fascinating history lesson about Ball jars- definitely bonus material! Appreciate you!

[@debmorris9138]

Jars and lids are trickling in at Walmart

[@cogit8able]

Shelves pretty scanty at my Walmart yesterday.

[@desistine398]

but are they at the ridiculous price as last yr? Walmart. com was last yr ridiculous w prices for lids n jars. Dollar General was cheaper if you could find them, Walmart is going to price gouge I bet.

[@jess6327]

@@desistine398 check the walmart app several times a day and when it drops to $3.18 with local pickup put your order in. I was able to finally get 2 separate orders at 2 different stores after having 5 orders canceled. Luckily for me i have quite a few walmarts in my area

[@TheRainHarvester]

@@jess6327 12 "mainstays" lids were $1.47 at Wal-Mart. Are they any good?

[@jess6327]

@@TheRainHarvester im not sure, i have 1mainstays as a backup but haven't used it yet. Ive only been pressure canning this winter and am scared to use those in it

[@debbimartin124]

I agree with you Danny. People have been canning for decades to self sustain themselves and their families, so I absolutely agree that anyone stating that it is unsafe is total hogwash.

[@joananderson6545]

Thank you Danny, that was very interesting.

[@noneyun9943]

My dad always canned, and my brother continued the tradition when he graduated. I didn’t start until 20 yrs later, and had to buy everything and teach myself how to can again when friday the 13th hit

[@wjpj3765]

Beware of the Main Stay lids & rings from Walmart. Pressure canning caused some of them to not seal & we couldn’t even get the rings to tighten on some. Probably a 50 /50 chance of good seals. Thanks for info!

[@Sarah19604]

I had success with them when water bath canning some pineapple jam

[@captron7814]

Karr makes them

[@leyahw.l.4388]

Yes we can, my grandparents did it for years, it was safe then and safe now. Keep sharing & inspiring us.

[@lazeeshomestead]

I reuse my lids after pressure and waterbath for jar sealing my pasta, sugar, flour, salt, like that, but I don't reuse them for pressure or waterbath.

[@sofializzy4519]

I'm a wannabe canner. Basically just discovered canning & I never would have realized there was an *off brand*. Thank you!

[@Carolbearce]

I have been canning for a long time. I didn’t know about watching for the made in America flag on the boxes. Thanks for the update.

[@anniekochera]

Thank you for this video. Last year when the panic buying was win full swing and everyone was avoiding the fresh produce area, I said that I'll buy those and Can them up, especially when it was going on sale to move the produce. Hopefully lids well be back in the stores again soon. The good ones. God Bless.

[@Michelle_Myers]

I’ve bought some Kerr lids at Walmart last weekend! They had ball jars but no lids

[@kellygelso312]

I’ve been canning my pasta sauce for a long time learned from my mother in law and she learned from her mom and so on. The only time I reuse my lids is when the seal is still good but never more then 2 times. And she taught me how to can lots of things. But what your saying is so true good stuff, thank you!!

[@denisechildofgod]

I like your wood burning stove sitting there. We have the exact same one! Going to put it in our kitchen.

[@heavenboundhomestead126]

I use a little Vaseline on my lids after canning, to keep them from rusting. I noticed that there is a little film on the lids that comes off while canning, causing them to rust. No more problems over the years. My mother in law alway did this. Blessings to you all

[@lindayounce4494]

I found canning lids at Denali Canning, located in Wilmington Delaware. They have no shortage. I found the lids to be superior to ball lids. Check them out. They are made in Delaware.

[@mechelesee4875]

I went and looked. Walmart sells a box of 12 caps for $12.99.

[@whisperingpines6728]

Very expensive

[@danniemcdonald4903]

@@mechelesee4875 WOW! Where do you live? On Feb. 3, I bought a box of 12 regular mouth lids for $2.99 at Walmart. I live in MS.

[@mechelesee4875]

@@danniemcdonald4903 NW PA. We haven't had any caps or caps/bands for months now. (closer to a year) and the jars we are finally seeing are jelly jars and specialty jars. If a few quarts or pints come in, they are gone in minutes. I live in a rural/Amish area and even they are having trouble through their sources. My sister in western OH has been buying the Mainstays but I never had a good experience with that brand. The Walmart price for Denali was on line. A year ago a regular pack of caps would have been $1.89. The good old days lol.

[@truthseeker7575]

Those are some pricey lids, even direct from the company.

[@waltp3373]

People charging ridiculous prices for jars on ebay. I found some quart wide mouth jars at Target last December. Nobody else seemed to have any at reasonable prices. I don't do canning but I vacuum seal using the jars mainly for strawberries, cut onions and nuts. I poke a small hole in the lid with a nail, put a piece of electrical tape over the hole and pump the air out with a Ziploc hand pump. Fresh strawberries last around 2 weeks without getting moldy. Cut onions even longer. Nuts last almost indefinitely. I reuse the lids until the pop top no longer stays down.

[@sonyariggs5925]

Our government waste money on so many things! Thank you for the information! I miss the true "BALL LIDS AND JARS."

[@robertlong7033]

Informative. Here we are in the month of May and no end to the shortage in sight. The nice part about growing and canning is having something good on sight and readily available .

[@charmainemontgomery582]

Thank you for telling us about the red seal 😊

[@cindygreen6900]

I have 2 experiences to add, I purchased "ball" to find them made in out of USA with a horrible clay color rubber, not white. Threw them away. 2nd I have had huge success with Tattler pressure canning. I learned the ring needs to have "just the right" amount of tension but NOT TO MUCH

[@jamesalias595]

My grandmother would reuse lids for things like jams, jellies and fruits with no issues. So I know it can be done, at least with the old time original lids, who knows today about quality.

[@cherylanon5791]

My mom taught me to can jams & jellies using paraffin to seal, that is long gone procedure, nobody does that anymore.

[@cathyann6835]

The newer lids are different because they removed the bpa. They're thinner and lighter in color. I had problems using them the first time. But I have reused some older ones but only for water bath and something I was planning to eat that winter. Now I wish I'd kept all the older ones.

[@jillhopson4949]

Please dont recycle lids unless the lid is specifically designed for reuse. Botulism is so dangerous and is always fatal. Do not take a chance please.💚💚💚

[@rosejarman6920]

I never reuse the lids for canning again, I do use them for other uses like leftovers or a jar of rice. Tattler does have a huge learning curve. I have about a 75% success rate, I keep trying. They have already told us it isn't safe that is why we have all the rules we have now from the USDA and NCHFP.

[@MrCntryjoe]

Seen this coming? Stocked up. The old lid seal was better. ☮️

[@JayP-kd5rc]

Yes, it was much thicker. They have cut down on their quality. Too bad.

[@MrCntryjoe]

@@JayP-kd5rc corporations ruined family products for profit.

[@justme8108]

@@MrCntryjoe That's why we need to support Tattler and Harvest Guard.

[@phoebejernigan9473]

I was new to tattler and reusing lids, but needed to try and learn. I would put just a couple in each batch, so if they failed I’d only have those to refrigerate and use quickly. I also am putting those first to use from my shelf storage. This has been a good strategy, I believe since there is a learning curve with tattler and used lids don’t always seal. I’ve been surprised though that used ones DO seal for the most part. (I had only used them for ferments and dehydrated goods before.) Tattler has been a great find so far. Most of mine are sealing fine now that I have gotten the hang of it. (I tighten them as usual then I loosen them about 1/4”.) They’ll be much cheaper if they do last 7 years too. Even if you only get 2 uses, you’re already saving over metal flats.

[@fourdayhomestead2839]

A nearby Ace Hardware had a good supply. 4 of us customers that sell jam & fruit preserves in Spring & summer, cleaned them out. New supply expected next week.

[@rosemarywilliams9969]

Thanks for the heads up. I just checked my jars.🖤

[@victorialg1270]

I tried to reuse a ball lid with the vaccuum sealer attachment for some nuts. It was good right after I did it, BUT two days later the jar lost it seal. I have too much money invested in the food I jar up, to risk reusing lids.

[@labradorite8256]

Cedar creek has a video about resuing store jars for dry goods with the vacuum sealer.

[@juliephelps7616]

Before the shortage, I had bought some jars, 2 cases and when I opened them they had air bubbles trapped in the glass. I contacted customer service and they sent me coupons to replace them I hold dry goods only in them. I will never use them for canning as I am afraid the glass would break. And yes they were Ball jars. The dry beans look good in them. Nothing went to waste.

[@wandamay2916]

Danny, I can a lot all through the year. Recently I did ketchup made. I reused four lids that I had boiled for twenty minutes that were In good shape, these flats looked almost new after prepping in this manner. I had water bathed the ketchup with four used and four new flats and one reused spaghetti sauce jar and lid. All nine sealed well and are now on a shelf waiting for summer.

[@jillhopson4949]

Please dont promote the idea if reusing the single use lids. Botulism is a fatal.

[@MrDynamitd]

Here in Canada we have basically ball and Bernardin jars and lids , the big problem we are finding with ball lids is that they will rust on some covers from the inside , as we have had some that lost their seal , taken the lid of and a small rusted spot on the inside and almost no sign on the outside except when put up to a strong light , there is a tiny hole rusted through. they all rust about 1 /8 of an inch in from the ring.

[@monana8706]

I had also heard from another channel that legal moonshine producers were purchasing a ton of the canning jars to sell their products.

[@livesoutdoors1708]

True. Yes they do. I have a distant relative that does that.

[@firehorsewoman414]

@@livesoutdoors1708 @ Debbie Boyer my husband loves to watch that moonshiners show and 2 of the characters on the show were talking about how they couldn’t get jars for their moonshine.

[@surender4ify]

I agree with our about not reusing for pressure canning. I have reused mine ONLY for vacuum sealing dry goods.

[@ju-lyndav7087]

Thanks for the info. I canned some salsa and the lids had rust spots after processing them (red seals). Never had that happen before, even contacted the company and they chalked it up to 'user error'. Now I know.

[@rosehebrewable]

I use Tattler Lids. They are used a little different but you can learn how.