Why BMW Oil Filter Housings Are STILL Leaking - B58 Common Issues

[@kern417]

You Can Buy the Aluminum Oil Filter Housing option Here: amzn.to/3IKqRMa I haven't tried it, so if you do, please report back how it fits and works for you How to replace the oil filter housing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5PIl6N4eradb9k

[@sms4hou676]

The gaskets are the weak point, and labor the same, regardless. What a pain, upgraded gaskets, better rubber/silicon, should come from the factory.

[@sms4hou676]

Also, plastic does stop the heat, it slows it. Thermal Conductivity is lower, but it will reach the same equilibrium... and in fact the aluminum should respond to cooling and heating better, the question is what did the engineers assume when they designed flow.... plastic of course.

[@Vgk36]

@@sms4hou676Are you saying plastic is better? 6:10

[@seanx520]

I have the aluminum oil filter with over 500 miles so far no issues so far, it is holding pressure as intended. I posted it on the fb forums. I didn’t have any cracks on my plastic oil housing but had a nice oil buildup at the bottom of the filter as you described on yours. I had 165k miles before it went

[@kern417]

Great news

[@JayMichaelsprod]

Likewise, changed to aluminum on a b46, i’m at 4k miles now. no issues…

[@F30bigturbski]

@@JayMichaelsprodyou got a link for the b46 version?

[@jamainefranklin5794]

I have the aluminum one on my 540i also...no issues

[@Slow2.0]

Still holding up well?

[@davewallace9048]

On the n54 motor, BMW factory gaskets are now made in Japan, which are much better quality and hold up much longer than the aftermarket gaskets!! but of course we’re talking about aluminum instead of plastic!!

[@TexJJN]

Great info. Just had massive leak which dealer reports was from this gasket/part. Surprising as only have 20k miles but things happen. Definitely something I will keep an eye on from here out.

[@flyingtaco1770]

Really appreciate the videos! Mine just went out yesterday on 124k miles, coolant leaking like crazy.

[@kern417]

sorry to hear man. hope you're back on the road soon.

[@juanm5407]

Just finished doing this job myself on my 2017 m240i with 120k miles. I did use the whole housing and oil cooler that it came with so we’ll see how it goes, I also upgraded the coolant fitting to the left of the housing because that is also a common failure point due to (you guessed it, plastic piece)

[@ericocampo7028]

Another great video sir. I guess were now waiting for owners to start hitting higher mileage to determine how widespread of a problem this can be. Given this looks like more of a BMW design issue rather than plastic usage one, do you think that overall, the B58 is still a highly reliable engine? Things like tracking the car would accelerate the failure of the OFHG?

[@basicsay2909]

I think as a whole the b58 is still a very reliable engine, but like most bmw tubo i6 engines, all the plastic around it just starts to get old and brittle. I definitely would say its a plastic usage issue, especially because bmw engines run warmer than other engines

[@AMS611]

If my sources are correct, it’s looking like we’ll be getting a heat management module replacement vid soonish👀 Source: none I made it up but that would be v convenient

[@ExtremDIY]

My M440i started leaking coolant and I believe its this oil housing BMW design failure. Thank you for your videos on the help to replace it. Seems like a large job but wow BMW engineers need stop using so much freaking plastic specially with such tight engine compartments with all the heat. Wish me luck with the replacement. Thanks again

[@roy4359]

I don't want to defend these engineers but i think it could be precisely because of such tight engine compartments that they used plastic. too much heat dissipation would be good for the part itself but maybe not for all the electronics around it. I don't know.

[@ExtremDIY]

@@roy4359 I picked up the aluminum oil housing aftermarket BMW wanted $600 and also replacing the coolant fitting next to it that suppose to go bad all the time. At BMW they told me the heat issue with the plastics in the south Florida is way more common than upper states. They dont sell as much up there he told me. For the coolant fitting coming out of the engine they sell 2 to 3 per day he told me of how bad they leak. There are so many hoses it ridiculous. If BMW is going to use plastic make it a bit thicker.

[@Staysikwitit]

Ive had the aluminum version for 7 months. I think i was the first with a b58 to do it. No issues so far, wish i wouldve seen people say to swap the spring before putting it on 😂 I did however swap all gaskets and the oil cooler.

[@Slow2.0]

Still holding up?

[@mirceastoica1565]

Still holding up?

[@Staysikwitit]

@@Slow2.0 yep

[@Staysikwitit]

@@mirceastoica1565 yep

[@mirceastoica1565]

@@Staysikwitit that’s good news. How about the temps? Low oil pressure came in ?

[@bmwlane8834]

I feel your frustration brother!!!!

[@CamjProductions]

A shop quoted me $2,311 to replace the oil filter housing for it. Don’t even know if they were going to go with an aluminum one or the plastic OEM one. Getting delivery of my 340 this week so prayers for me lmao it’s coming in with 54k miles complete bone stock 2018. Passed pre purchase inspection with flying colors but praying this shit holds out for a while

[@Doppo69]

Go for aluminium your never have to do it again then

[@kylelee7254]

Good to know this is common. Mine cracked and was leaking coolant

[@kjhnsn7296]

76k miles on my N55. Oil filter housing tight as a drum. Indeed no leaks of any kind ANYWHERE.

[@Live1509]

Question for who has the aluminum oil housing: can you swap the bypass valve from the OEM to this one?

[@grein545]

Looks like Rein has started marketing an aluminum housing for the b46/48 engine. Not sure if it’s better quality than the ones coming directly out of China. Probably a good chance for a b58 version to come out in the future. (Edit: according to FCP Euro, these ones are made in turkey)

[@BMUSIK101]

im having this same issue....where are you located?

[@salibatoro8857]

Even the previous gen aluminum housing on n54 55 had problems with leaking gaskets too it’s nothing new plastic or aluminum is gonna leak no matter

[@chriskamen2152]

would replacing it with the aluminum housing and adding silicone to the gaskets make it MUCH better?

[@kern417]

i'm not sure you could do that properly. i would just recomend using oem gaskets at a minimum

[@CosminRotaru]

Maybe the space there (instead off flat mount) assures they there's no water-oil mixture in case off gaskets failure. Liquids just drip outside...

[@kern417]

no it's to save money while retaining structural integrity. for example look at the design of the intake manifold.

[@CosminRotaru]

@@kern417 i mean the fact that is not flush with it's mounting position.

[@kern417]

Yeah it's flush with the lip that it sits on in the lip is what seems to break on some cars.

[@Viperoloff]

Great video thanks, might the gap to oil cooler be to reduce heat transfer back to housing?

[@kern417]

i don't think so but maybe

[@nonconarde]

Hi kern, I just bought an m140i and I have error codes 120308 120408 (air pressure) and 180001 catalyst performance too low. The car had a powertrain problem warning light on the dashboard. I just bought it and it takes 10 seconds to get up to 60MPH. However, the engine runs well, no audible air leaks, no smoke from the exhaust, no excess consumption. No oil leaks, no unstable rpm idling. The only thing is that by sending a pressure setpoint of 2 bars (load test) the sensor only measured 1 bar. We manage to activate the wastegate on the computer. Do you have a little idea? BMW suggests that we change the plastic hose which is just after the MAF flow meter which goes to the turbo because it is not waterproof. However, we exchanged it for 30 minutes with that of a friend and no difference. Thank you so much

[@nonconarde]

It was the catalysor

[@abrakadabraangelov1829]

​@@nonconarde how much did it cost

[@nonconarde]

@@abrakadabraangelov1829 450 second hand

[@alexiscamacho4168]

One other thing to mention is that the s58 oil filter housing is metal

[@kern417]

it also has the external oil cooler under the bumper so very different design overall

[@skeoph8418]

And for the B58 Gen3, is it still in plastic?

[@highboost1454]

Hey Kevin, are B58TU engines on Supras also susceptible, or are these issues more common among gen 1 B58?

[@grein545]

Do you think keeping up with the oil and coolant changes will help prolong the life of the housing?

[@Vgk36]

Looks like we need metal dipstick mod to keep an eye on things. Or just keep an eye on coolant level

[@NguyenFamandChavez]

Need a gen 2 aluminum housing!

[@smaga420]

I went with the aluminum one

[@russvague2748]

Does this affect the S58 engine as well?

[@Top_g80comp]

Yes

[@Crazy_B58]

Did you like visually see the leakage? I’m losing coolant can’t seem to find it….

[@Samuelsam60]

There is a common issue with b58's where the coolant cap will be causing an issue with coolant getting through and evaporating over time. Look for some white dust looking stuff inside and where the cap goes, this will be an indicator that you need to replace the cap. Look it up yourself as well. Cheers!

[@kern417]

yeah i didn't see mine but i could smell it while driving. i think a lot of it dripped and either evaporated or got soaked into the under tray

[@Crazy_B58]

@@kern417 thanks bro will check it out. Keep up the good work!

[@Crazy_B58]

@@Samuelsam60 it was the first thing I checked. I pressure tested it and I’m loosing pressure somewhere. Not on the cap, waterpump or anything I could see visually. It’s not a big leak but it’s there. Could be under the intake manifold…

[@cuudur8168]

Do you think this is a problem if youre just running stock tune?

[@kern417]

tune doesn't really matter. it's more about heat cycles etc.

[@The2ndKrezzz3]

does the supra have this issue?

[@Skam1one]

It's technically not an oil cooler. It's a heat exchanger designed to bring the oil up to temp faster using hot engine coolant.

[@PeakUnlimited]

This should be a recall. This shouldn't be happening so frequently.

[@Hadithpage2020]

2 series leaking slowly before completely gone Only done 104k

[@markhunt2486]

2016 f30 Mine went on Boxing Day. My car is at 65k. My car just dumped all water. Just got it back at a cost of £845. Theres cars have far to many coolent issues. Already spent 2k previously on water pump and pipes. I’m telling you if you have a f30 and it’s at 45k with no problems get fucking rid of it. My turbo also went at 60k

[@keyanridgeway5639]

I had my charge cooler leak coolant into my engine and made cyl2 say cya later and now I gotta resolve my whole engine for like 12k

[@Domas64]

Maybe you got info or a video of all the places to check if people have coolant disappearing? To find the leak, like the usual suspects

[@kern417]

I'll try to add it to the list

[@maxburden4949]

Getting a catch can will fix this problem correct?

[@kern417]

No

[@Notime2waste_tito]

Bmw just quoted me $2680 to replace the leaking one on my wife's f48 x1 😢

[@BasRikken]

if it last about 120k miles, i just stick to oem

[@ScottPC]

Literally! Not known a single one failing in the UK group.

[@sharklos]

Mine was OEM and failed at 47k miles lol

[@Crazy_B58]

@@sharkloshow did you notice it was the oil filter housing?

[@sharklos]

@@Crazy_B58 got a low coolant warning but no puddles so i just topped off and then after a few days it was just pissing straight coolant. As fast as i topped off it'd leak out and puddle on my garage floor. Removed the skid plate to figure out where in the engine bay it was leaking and noticed it leak on the side of the oil filter housing.

[@Crazy_B58]

@@sharklos I’m losing almost nothing but I’m losing something…. I will take a look and try to diagnose it

[@boxdrinks]

Similar failure on B48 x3 20i. Coolant is leaking like crazy. BMW has the worst cooling system!

[@Akac3sh]

it makes me angry that the plastic mat choice exists just to get us back into the service division.

[@the_batmobile0.4]

Its a bmw duh

[@samuelr8449]

P R O M O S M

[@samsabah8690]

This shit always break's after 3 months it's 2024 25 years and they didn't solve this filter housing gasket this is it im done of buying bmw from know ob

[@dia9n0st1c]

must be genetic

[@BasRikken]

alu MI nium :) americans.....

[@AMS611]

Euro people love fixating on aluminum while pretending Worcestershire is spelled/pronounced as it should be

[@xtoefield]

GTFO, sincerely, USA

[@huh0123]

Aluminum, Aluminium, doesn't matter which way you spell it or pronounce it, the guy who coined the word first called it aluminum: English chemist Sir Humphry Davy named the metal, deriving the name from the mineral called alumina. This name was taken from the French, who had based it on alum, a white mineral that had been used since ancient times for dyeing and tanning. The only reason it's different now is because all the dictionaries were made by the Britain's and they couldn't even figure out which way to spell it. So we had like 4 different dictionaries all saying different things for the same word.