Why Bobby Fischer is Better than Modern Players!

[@peterquinones3522]

Something else that's often forgotten is that Fischer played in the era of adjournments. He would be in his hotel alone, analyzing, meanwhile the other 8 Soviet grandmasters in the tournament would be collaborating on the overnight analysis of Fischer' s game.😮

[@JESL_Only_1]

He did have a second, but, Yes, he played against the Soviet Chess Army.

[@davidgothard3055]

Yeah Fischer was up against an entire system. Not just one opponent. Kids today are clueless regarding this.

[@djdjdjwjhehdi]

@@davidgothard3055 you are just an old fischer fanboy. magnus is miles ahead of fischer

[@davidgothard3055]

@@djdjdjwjhehdi In your head. Not in reality. Carlsen fanboys eat recency bias for breakfast, dinner, tea and supper .. then cuddle it close in bed at night.

[@peterquinones3522]

William Lombardy was with sometimes, not most of the time.

[@drumcircler]

I played Bobby in a 20-board simul three months before his Spassky match. He had just steamrolled Taimanov, Larsen, and Petrosian. He steamrolled the twenty of us in 42 minutes. He was a chess hurricane.

[@jorgeespinosa3179]

What an honor to read your comment. You must have played some great Chess yourself. Thank you!

[@19037vinny]

Ive not seen that simul published anywhere, but I can believe the result you claim.

[@nitotech]

How much did you pay to play the game? Did all of that go to Bobby or it was split?

[@AtharvaKothawade]

Honour to read your comment

[@nickhall7995]

The fact that Bobby was nearly 2800 with only books and magazines. I love the pre-cpu era because it showed true strength. Not saying players aren't great today.

[@realplonk]

yes that's exactly what you said :)

[@Politeach]

@@realplonk laern to raed

[@lesmartin7163]

Actually if you look at Fuschers results AND used the same standard of publishing monthly the ELO ratings... Fischer achieved 2895. No internet No 2nds Chessmetrics (?) has done a definitive study on this.. Fischer Ruy Lopez results are unmatched. He was ~ 74% win rate.. Versus ~60s % today

[@realplonk]

@@lesmartin7163 hi Les, crazy numbers, can you link the study please? Thanks :)

[@maxaffe3195]

@@realplonk he didnt

[@jennifers6055]

I resigned for white from my couch. I couldn't take the pressure.

[@theofeitosa7841]

lol

[@hyzerfl1p]

😂

[@2Oldcoots]

Yes, Bobby was a "Psychic Murderer" and said he crushed his opponent's ego. A Chess Maniac on a Mission the like of which may never be seen again, including the 145 point ELO rating he held above the World's #2 after he became World Champion.

[@djdjdjwjhehdi]

125 classical streak of carlsen

[@ZDTF]

​@@djdjdjwjhehdiunbeaten It contains draws Many 83 draws 42 wins

[@djdjdjwjhehdi]

@@ZDTF irrelevant

[@fredericpelloud7536]

@@djdjdjwjhehdi Carlsen never won 20 games in a row against the best players in the world as Fischer did in 1971/72

[@ZDTF]

@wooshifgay462 estimated

[@primeobjective5469]

"I like it when I crush a man's ego." -Bobby Fisher

[@s0undf0rm]

Bro - literally happened to him🤭casually fleeing what is supposed to be the law?!?

[@boldyo]

That’s probably why he let Larson queen the pawn, making him think he had a chance, then crushing his ego once again!

[@ScorpionF1RE_USA]

i like it too. at least he's being honest

[@GraemeCree]

In the end he crushed his own ego. He was burned out before he was 30, and couldn't continue.

[@torrinbianchi5283]

Wow that’s so cooooolllll

[@RealityCheck1]

Fischer had no coach, no nutritionist, no MD, no sport psychologist, no dietician, no gf (Carlsen has all that & sponsors all over). All Fischer had was books he could afford to buy from the prize money he got, a couple decent clothes, a dubrovnik chess set, & a small chess set he reviewed moves before he slept. Also, his mom hated him. Their personalities crashed against each other. Fischer was the Rambo of chess. He destroyed the gov sponsored Soviet Chess Team, all by himself with no support at all.

[@hugovaz777]

Hes the divine american individual who represenrts freedom and self knowledge, who goes on to crush goliath wth a sling shot. Cool story

[@michaelblankenau6598]

How do you know his mother hated him .

[@wisdomencouraged9326]

His mother did not hate him? She did everything she could to support his career? Have you ever read his biography?

[@bevs9995]

his mom and him were very close and he got a lot of the books for free

[@wisdomencouraged9326]

He wasn't training by himself, he had many adult mentors throughout his life and he spent years playing at chess clubs against adults

[@roberlevi]

without engines or social media and a masterful mind all of his own, there's absolutely no doubt Bobby Fisher is the greatest of all time... I really enjoy your style to analyze chess games and I hope your channel continues to grow... Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽

[@djdjdjwjhehdi]

strongest player of all time is magnus

[@19037vinny]

I agree. No engines and did his own analysis without a team behind him. The Greatest!!!

[@djdjdjwjhehdi]

@@19037vinny stop bringing this engine argument.every player has access to engine nowadays but magnus is still better than these players

[@19037vinny]

@@djdjdjwjhehdi What? Have you misunderstood what I was on about? Fischer didn't need computers to become great. All those after him did.

[@mazymetric8267]

@@19037vinny "Fischer didn't need computers to become great. All those after him did." Whatt?? It's because everyone is using computers to prepare nowadays. It's because computers can analyze a line in seconds which would take humans hours or even days to analyzed. If we were able to teleport a super GM with all the computer prep of today back in 1972, he would run circles around Fischer.

[@fancitickler]

*FISCHER* in my opinion was the greatest player ever. What a freaking insane game that was. Beating Larsen, Taimanov both 6-0 and then Iron Tigran Petrosian 6.5-2.5 was a truly Herculean show of chess strength just to progress to the World Championship against Spassky. Such a task will never be repeated in the world of chess. I'm sure that if Fide accepted his conditions to a match against Karpov who was challenger, Karpov would have been defeated, but that is another subject of conversation. It's a shame that USA went against him after the rematch against Spassky in 1992 for playing in Yugoslavia.

[@djdjdjwjhehdi]

carlsen is better

[@raylopez99]

@@djdjdjwjhehdi lolz. Recall what Kasparov said about better. It's not how much better you are in absolute terms (and Carlsen is probably the best ever in absolute terms) but how much better you are from your contemporaries. Is Carlsen that much better than Caruana, as Fischer was from his contemporaries? That's the debate.

[@AirFresh-jk9og]

​@@djdjdjwjhehdiDid you just misunderstood the history of the game? Fischer did more contribution and remarkable history on the game compare to Carlsen. My advice to you is to get a life and stop worshipping on carlsen

[@djdjdjwjhehdi]

@@raylopez99 that is not what he said

[@raylopez99]

@@djdjdjwjhehdi It is. But feel free to cite your sources.

[@victor6010]

allowing larsen to make a queen at the end was beautiful

[@icarus8471]

I agree. As people have said, there were no personal computers back then, no internet, no AI, no chess engines, just chess books and articles. And he beat the entire Soviet machine. By himself. That will never be duplicated.

[@michaelblankenau6598]

A very nice example of Fischer’s cold blooded approach and the confidence he had in both his ability to calculate and his intuitive ability to assess positions .

[@ragupatt]

That a7 allowing white to Queen conveys Fischer's character! Since his quote is "Play the board, not the man", he played the move for artistic reasons. Excellent presentation. Thanks.

[@logik5549]

Bro got so bored of chess he made his own variation of chess which is still played at top level till this day

[@innosanto]

He also introduced the incremental clock I think, which is now used.

[@karmatic7957]

@@innosantoyeah he did

[@johnbrooks6243]

What's is own variation U talking about ?

[@joshuaflores3647]

​@@johnbrooks6243It was originally called Fischer Random and there was a great Invitational called GOAT earlier this month which included many of the top players in the world who all played Fischer Random. Magnus Carlsen won the tournament. He beat Gukesh after the Candidates.

[@_abishekdaniel_]

​@@johnbrooks6243 It's Fischer Random chess, aka chess 960. It's when all pieces are randomly shuffled except for the pawns. This is done to eliminate the memorized openings and give room for skill and creativity. Imo, Fisher Random Chess is THE BEST chess variant.

[@ETBrooD]

Fischer was uncompromising in his search for domination on the chess board. He used every conceivable angle and came up with ideas that were unthinkable. One of the reasons why his games are so special is because nobody during those days had a computer engine to analyze Fischer's moves, not during the games and not after. He had to come up with his ideas without the help of a better player, because there was no one better than him. There was also no engine that could reveal holes in his ideas and show him the correct strategy. He had to prove that his ideas were simply better than those of his opponents - and not just better, but dominant. It's very lonely up there, and that's not always a good thing. I'm glad I can learn from engines. Fischer couldn't, and yet he was completely ahead of the competition.

[@JPdeRuiter]

ChessDawg, you are the most pleasant, clear, and inspiring chess commentator out there. Please keep it up!

[@Brandon-a-writer]

thanks John for your continued exhibition of these classic games. I'm preparing for a tournament myself, and I've been studying Fischer's lines against the French defense since it gives me so much trouble. thanks a lot for the focus on structures here, because once your ELO gets over 2000 or so, you really need to understand when and how to transform your structure, simplify, how to best convert a winning advantage. I think Lasker said something like, the hardest game to win is a won game. Time is running, nerves are frayed, and it's easy to blunder under those conditions. My favorite chess book is Bronstein's "Zurich International Tournament, 1953. Taught me so much more about how to think about and evaluate chess positions. :)

[@cAm1ll1A]

Bobby's chess intuition reigns supreme. If he had 55% of the coaching, eidetic memory & access to computers that Magnus possesses he would be the GOAT. That is why Magnus is Gretzky, Kasparov is Orr & Bobby is Lemieux. Like Mario had Bobby gone further they both likely would have surpassed the greats.

[@anujpawar8515]

Mikhail Tal became the youngest world champion at the age of 23, if Tal would take care of his health and lifestyle, prepare for the tournament like other players and access to computer like modern players Tal would be the GOD of chess. Don't forget bro chess is a sport and the Mikhail Tal had given the level of joy to audience it's unbelievable. Tal was far ahead of his time and even sometimes the Stockfish failed to catch the brilliance of Tal.

[@davidanderson_surrey_bc]

So... that would make Morphy into Cyclone Taylor?

[@cAm1ll1A]

@@davidanderson_surrey_bc , never heard of either of these two, reading more about them now, thanks.

[@3Torts]

...Nice hockey comparisons! I feel like Magnus has to be more like a McDavid+Makar though?

[@PoleVault]

Bobby won the Cold War single handed. He is the goat.

[@lubomirolsak7593]

It is strange, then, that the mother country was hostile to him. But I guess I know why.

[@dannygjk]

To beat Petrosian with that margin in a match is unbelieveable. 😮

[@MrSupernova111]

Without a doubt!

[@michaels4255]

Right, Petrosian was a great defensive player and hard to beat. The only reason he was no longer world champion was because he had been deposed by Spassky who was widely regarded as the greatest player of all time up to then. When Fischer finally made it to the championship, he actually had the confidence to forfeit one of his games against Spassky in one of his temperamental moments and still went on to win the match convincingly.

[@GraemeCree]

Impressive, yes, unbelievable, no. Short matches lend themselves to extreme results, just because anyone who falls behind has to try to make it back quickly and take unjustified risks. Most Candidates Matches at that time were decided by 3 or 4 points.

[@JonahGhost]

I love your breakdowns. Much faster paced than other channels.

[@dalelawrence85]

What I adore most of all is the sheer beauty of Fischer’s games. There is something quite poetic about them and often frighteningly nerve wracking.

[@denisrho1019]

I LIKE so much your historical comments! Thanks. Very informative.

[@hanswust6972]

I think Fischer achieved a streak of 19 wins against Great Masters, a record never goten anymore.

[@tudorm6838]

20? 7+6+6+1

[@19037vinny]

@@tudorm6838 what's that all about?

[@19037vinny]

Are you sure?

[@tudorm6838]

Fischer won his last seven games at the 1970 Palma de Mallorca Interzonal, then swept Mark Taimanov 6-0 in the quarterfinals and Bent Larsen by the same score in the semifinals of the Candidates matches. In the final match against former World Champion Tigran Petrosian, Fischer won the first game but lost the second. That includes a one-move game against Panno, which resigned as a protest. Technically is 20-0, but real games 19-0.

[@19037vinny]

I'd say officially 20. Presuming the Panno game started officially, if so then it's 20.

[@2Oldcoots]

Thanks!

[@chessdawg]

Thank you very much.

[@myashins0]

How’d you do this? I gave from PayPal but this seems easier?

[@ShinobiShaman]

​@@chessdawgOthers have probably mentioned it, but Fisher didn't have a personal computer to play on. There's no comparison between today's players & Fisher, just based on that alone.

[@MrGyges]

Bobby was the man, though it cost him his health. Thank you for showing us “ the greatest achievement in chess history “. Always a pleasure taking one of your tours of the chess board.

[@Momus2024]

if you play through Fischers games from 1968 on..all of them....using an engine you will see that 95% of them are either flawless or very pricise INCLUDING his blitz games...a rate of accuracy no other human has come close to...which accounts for his unreal achievments as partially described here....Bobby Fischer at the moment he captured the chess title was simply the strongest player the game has even seen....PERIOD

[@arnieus866]

The Fischer era was when I learned to play. As a beginner it was so hard to make sense of many of the moves like a4 in this French. Good explanations were hard to find. Thank you for your analysis.

[@ronj9448]

Agreed. What helped me back in the day was the RHM book "The French Defense" by Gligoric and Ullman. Wow! Got me into the Poison Pawn variation at school (it was in fashion at the time.)

[@michaels4255]

Yes, I taught myself to play from books when I was a teenager and a I still remember wracking may brain for the longest time trying to figure out the reasoning behind some grandmaster moves.

[@JohnOwenBanks]

I remember it well. Saw every game on TV, then after, NYC Mayor Lindsey gave Bobby a ticker tape parade down B'way. I met RJF, then we all watched him crush the Manhattan Chess Club's best in blitz: Score 21.5 out of 22. RJF: The all-time greatest!

[@CovidIslandDiscs]

Wow that is amazing you were there.

[@JohnOwenBanks]

@@CovidIslandDiscs Wouldn't have missed it for anything!...the only drawback now: Am age 79. Wish you'd seen it. Thanks for the reply. Keep playin'...the game of Kings & children!

[@mentalmoves6032]

Thank you for showing and analyzing this amazing classic game. Please keep up the good work - you are the best! Regards from Scandinavia

[@DergEnterprises]

That was intense, all the way to the last second.

[@testthing-yr6ox]

He's(Fischer) the only reason to why I studied and loved chess in my early grade sch yrs in the mid 70s... Chess became so popular worldwide, just because of him beating the then Soviet champion, Boris Spassky.. Back in those days, it's almost impossible doing that to them... And incidentally, other Soviet grandmasters fell to him at the candidates' matches leading to him playing for the world title against Spassky... That's why, he was and still the greatest chess player of all time. Single-handedly demolishing the entire Soviet chess machinery!

[@jorgeespinosa3179]

Same here!

[@tuturtatwa2021]

Why I agree?? Cause Bobby doesn't use any engine or coach like others. He push himself almost alone. Sadly he face so much pressure and drawn to his darkness.

[@andrewmays3988]

Thank you for excellent commentary and analysis. You are a wonderful teacher!!!😇

[@johnbenedetto3096]

This is something that I LOVE about this channel, constantly reassuring the greatness of Fischer over the today's giants. Fischer WAS extraordinary, and there will never be anything like him.

[@Yuri_Panbolsky]

19 victories in a row in world championship competitions is truly an eternal record. You can read many vague and vague definitions of what a creative person is. Fisher - “A creative person is one who finds patterns where they are not visible.” Brief and succinct. Analytics from his father - Paul Nemenyi was an outstanding Hungarian scientist, Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences.

[@femioyekan8184]

This is one of my favorite games from Bobby, and it really highlights his positional understanding and powers of calculation. Surely, no player today would be able to easily brush aside the genius Fischer. However, I do think we can be a little biased towards past players, because we tend to only be familiar with their greatest games.

[@hectorg5809]

Of course Fischer lost many games, but so did everyone else. I think a reason that a lot of Fischer's major wins aren't considered all-time greats is because there isn't always a fancy or brilliant move. He simply wore down his opponents and capitalized on their mistakes. His style was so precise and methodical that it's boring to some people

[@percybyssheshelly]

I agree with you and the first game with Larsen in the candidates is a great example of Fischer’s incredible calculating abilities.

[@peterbauer7271]

Never confuse the player and the man. He was the Morphy of early 1970s. Candidates performance was remarkable. Then to forfeit to the second match in World Championship. One has to admire Boris for insisting on playing…

[@Blinknone]

Spassky was a good dude.. Nice guy from what I've read.

[@Qhsjahajw]

Who cares about boris playing, he didnt even work hard, and on many occasions chose to play his own wild stuff over geller's reco

[@combat246]

I enjoyed that. The pace of commentary is very nice.

[@nubianpwr]

I'm afraid I think this is true... he was a natural virtuoso, without props, bots, or engines to help him. He was also visionary/genius enough to foresee this current chess era, and invented something to breath life into it "Fischer Random"!

[@northshores7319]

This was The Game of the Century. Do not forget that Spassky won six Candidate Matches in the 60's against better players than Fischer faced.

[@richalcat66]

I like your comment. I have often felt that Fischer dodged the 1965 and 1968 Candidates because Spassky was then in his prime. I feel that a Fischer Spassky match in 1965 or 1968 (maybe both) would have been much more interesting than their 1972 match.

[@northshores7319]

@@richalcat66 Agree I do. It is too bad Bobby did not face excellent players as often as would have if he had been a Soviet. Amazing how Spassky altered his style to make it more difficult for each opponent in those six Candidate Matches. They outta bring them matches back as it at least gives the challenger match experience before the Title Match.

[@fundhund62]

To be fair, Petrosian wasn't at the peak of his powers in 1971. As a matter of fact, even before his first match with Spassky his tournament results weren't impressive, and most people expected his defeat. By 1969, Spassky's win seemed like a mere formality. And in his 1971 matches against Hübner and Korchnoi he didn't show great form, either. That being said, his games against Fischer were always interesting. The 8th game has been my favorite Fischer game for many years.

[@APotatoWithAGun]

the bishop-pawn cordination in the endgame was beautiful

[@savakiranbaan8546]

after being defeated by Bobby Fischer , Tigran Petrocian said he was sure that Fischer shall defeat Boris Spasky .🔥

[@alexandersabotinov5489]

Fischer is the only Grandmaster who invented a NEW Chess - Fischer Random Chess or Chess 960 !!! That was a step beyond the reality !

[@lauroread]

This was a great rundown. It felt like watching a segment on ESPN.

[@michaelgmeiner7449]

Fischer not playing Be3 is such a flex. He really wanted to crush Larsen's ego.

[@jamesderoc6717]

and a prophet , memorization is not chess, 960chess is the cure for chess engines

[@AngelaSpanger-mp9hk]

I remember reading Spassky had the 6 best?? Soviet GM's working with him and Fischer had an IM, a bunch of comic books and a 1,000 of Spassky's games to study....something like that

[@MasDingos]

The craziest thing about this game is Fischer's insight from 23. Rxe5 to (at least) his 28th. The most natural move (to a hack like me) is preventing mate and saving Q by 28. Qc5. But back around move 23 Fischer must have seen this move leaves him exchange down in worse position and had therefore to play 28. Bc5! leading to great piece play, cozy K, and speedy pawns. The depth and subtlety of his calculation is amazing.

[@mrsta8541]

One of the great calculators ever, without doubt.

[@trafyknits9222]

Arguably, the greatest natural chess player was Paul Morphy, or perhaps Capablanca. Fischer was right up there, too. But, as we all know, Fischer hated chess (late in life) because it had become mostly brute memorization rather than OTB thinking.

[@mrsta8541]

2 of Fischer's chess heroes, Morphy & Capablanca.

[@ianattong6989]

Awesome game by Fischer !!1 Excellent analysis & background info !!

[@nicholaswideman6658]

Good job Always nice to see other Fischer fans

[@TGx92]

Fischer was a genius man. If his reign started now than back then he would be even more deadly and unbeatable now than ever with all the computer help you can gain now and days. He’s easily at Carlsen’s level of skill

[@motsy15]

After he beat Petrosian his live rating was 2805. The next highest rating was Spassky at 2670. Karpov was 2650. Without question the strongest player ever.

[@dionlindsay2]

So Bobby Fischer's best ever rating was 2805 - Carlsen's was 2882. Since the Elo rating measures chess playing strength, I have to say Carlsen was considerably stronger than Fischer was.

[@hectorg5809]

Fischer was so far above his peers that his rating went DOWN when he beat the current world champion for the title

[@BowHunter87]

The chess engines and resources available today vs what Fischer had to work with is night and day.

[@universoajedrez1118]

Not preventing black promoting, just to prove a point, is savage

[@darrenwebb2779]

The game ended after 41. Bb6 but it is always good to see the why in full

[@fairtrue4557]

he had talent and loved chess more than anything else he worked hard he was one of a kind there won't be another for sure

[@SimplyChaotic98]

Fishcer’s the GOAT. There’s no real debate. I mean…can you imagine Bobby Fischer using engines to study? That’d be like Lawrence Taylor having Tyreek Hills speed in his day. If you didn’t make engine moves against Fischer you probably lost, it’s an awesome “what if” to see Mr. Fischer play today

[@thegorn]

No one can show the power of the bishop pair like Bobby Fischer

[@LeafInTheStream]

What a fantastic game! How exciting it must have been to have been following this match at the time! And what a tragedy that Fischer stopped playing just a year or so later! Very good commentary as well. Thanks for posting!

[@tudorm6838]

Fischer had a 20-0 run: before the Candidates matches, he had 7-0 in the last games from the Interzonal. Today, only computers can do this.

[@DarkSideChess]

I think this game shows how good Larsen was just as well as Fischer. He made Bobby sweat and made him find only moves

[@christpower5402]

That was amazing. I stopped at one point to see if I would figure out what Fisher was going to do. And I was wrong.

[@jeffreyallen3352]

With the amazing performance by bobby fischer in the candidates matches from 1971, and including his play both after and before 1971, bobby fischer is clearly the greatest chess player of all time to today's date, and indeed for all time, as I think no future player will ever surpass him. His childhood circumstance, and how it affected him after that in terms of his condition actually helped and improved him so that he HAD to win, and HAD to be the best. There was no other option open to him. Great and though geniuses, his competition lacked that key element which fischer had. Fischer was afraid of no one as a chess opponent. He would easily, and I stress easily have defeated Karpov in 1975. It would be no contest. Anyone suggesting that fischer was afraid to play karpov really must not be familiar with fischers games. I see no signs in fischers play to indicate in any way that he was either afraid to lose, or afraid to play anyone.

[@mrsta8541]

"He would easily, and I stress easily have defeated Karpov in 1975. It would be no contest. Anyone suggesting that Fischer was afraid to play Karpov really must not be familiar with Fischer's games." Exactly. People that think Karpov had a shot in 75 are whistling through a graveyard. Nobody was close to Fischer at that time. Player closest to Karpov stylistically was Petrosian, & you can look up how Bobby handled him. Petrosian had been WC, a dominant player for years, & far more seasoned than Karpov. No reason to suspect Karpov would have been anything but "just another guy" to the machine that was Fischer then. If they said something like early 80s, maybe we got something to talk about; aging takes its toll, he'd be maybe like Anand to Karpov's Carlsen or something. But mid-70s? No. Fischer feared nobody when he sat down at a board. He said so, & the long list of men he defeated, outstanding players all, bears out the assertion.

[@RaineriHakkarainen]

Bobby Fischer beat the weakest chess World champion Boris Spassky only 17 wins 10 losses! Capablanca would beat Spassky easily 8 wins 6 draws zero losses! Carlsen would beat Spassky easily 6 wins 6 draws zero losses! The highest tournament elo rating score is Fabiano Caruana 8,5/10 StLouis elo 3080! Karpov 11/13 Linares 1994 elo score 3040! Alekhine in San Remo 1930 elo score 3040! Over-rated Fischer his best tournament score only 2990! Over-rated Kasparov his best tournament score only 2990! Karpov has won over 160 super grand Master tournaments! Fischer won zero only inter zonals 1962 1970! Fischer was Second in Santa Monica 1966 behind blunder maker Spassky! Karpov beat Spassky 13 wins only one loss! Now these crazy people claiming that Fischer would beat Carlsen bigger margin than Awful blunder maker Spassky! Morphy Tal Alekhine Kasparov had More beautiful games than Fischer! Stockfish 16 would beat Fischer 999-1 easily

[@RaineriHakkarainen]

Lot of Errors Fischer's famous games like Fischer vs Larsen game one in 1971 Fischer played Bishop f3???? Bishop d6! Wins easily! Fischer vs Stein famous Bishop f5 but earlier Fischer moved 26:Knight f3??? 26:Knught f7! Wins easily! Fischer vs Geller in 1967 Fischer moved 17:exf7??? 17:Rook f6! Geller made 10 errors this game in a row and beat Fischer! Fischer vs Spassky in 1966 olympiad Fischer played Queen a6??? Rook e3! Wins easily!

[@mrsta8541]

@@RaineriHakkarainen You're speculating. There is no "weakest" World Champion, only World Champions. Spassky is one of the strongest players of all time. Fischer beat the class of his day, not just Spassky. If you think other great players had "more beautiful games than Fischer," that's your opinion & you are entitled to it (as I am to mine).

[@mrsta8541]

@@RaineriHakkarainen Every chess player makes errors. Even Capablanca, who played very accurately. Carlsen makes boo-boos too. It's not an argument against a player's greatness. Fischer beat Larsen, beat Stein, beat Geller, & beat Spassky. The only reason you're able to trace those winning moves is with use of a chess engine, which Fischer not only didn't have when he was playing those other great players, but never had the luxury of away from the board either. Not sure what you're on about here. You don't like Fischer, that's fine. Everybody got opinions, like I said. You pointing out errors he made thanks to engine analysis (everybody makes mistakes time to time) doesn't mean Fischer was a lousy player.

[@ronaldwysocki1204]

This had to be a devastating defeat for Larsen. I couldn't imagine how much time (months? years?) he invested into an opening he never really used in serious play so he could try to blindside Fischer. After Game 1, Bent has to throw out his mountain of work on the French and to go back to his usual Sicilian defense. I think this defeat set the tone for this match and Larsen never recovered. Larsen is among the toughest chess players of his era, yet this letdown gave Bobby enough of an edge to crush Bent. Fischer's dominant run from 1970 to the defeating Spassky in 1972 will never be matched. We'll see later on how Petrosian tried to surprise Fischer in Game 1 of their match and it backfired.

[@TruthSurge]

10:22 hehe "these effin g pawns!" sounded like you were cursing but censoring yourself. hehehe Wow, it looked grim for Bobby when the two rooks and queen were lined up. Those defense moves did seem like miracles. If one piece was off one square those wouldn't have been available.

[@ssbmgosu4990]

I think he was by far the best. Imagine if he would have had modern tools to grind the game lol. Bro defeated a whole nation in 1v9 style.

[@petercoderch589]

Bobby Fischer is the G.O.A.T. Period. His 2,850 ELO remains unmatched for 2 reasons. First, because there has been huge ELO inflation for the past 30 years. Secondly, because the *gap* between him and the number #2 player is the biggest ever. Fischer at his best combined the razor-sharp tactical decision-making of 1985 Karpov with the creativity of Alekhine and the sheer strategic brilliance of Capablanca. I am convinced that, if Fischer hadn't broken down mentally and continued playing, he would have reached a 3,500 ELO eventually, .

[@19037vinny]

Wasn't it 2750 ? Number 7 sticks in my mind for some reason. Not sure if it ends in 50.

[@GraemeCree]

He's not the G.O.A.T. Period. If my saying "period" isn't proof enough, there's also the fact that he never had a 2850 ELO. His peak was 2785. As for the gap, at his peak Fischer had a 120 point lead over everyone. Kasparov had a 120 point lead over everyone except Karpov, who Fischer avoided playing, and in fact coughed up the title to without a fight. Unfortunately, few except Americans consider Fischer the G.O.A.T. He had a great spurt, but couldn't maintain it. Giving up the title without a fight, without a single defense, and without even winning a single game as world champion kind of eliminates him from consideration. In the end, Kasparov was the world #1 for longer than Fischer's entire career lasted.

[@petercoderch589]

@@GraemeCree I am not American, and I consider him the G.O.A.T. You are thinking in terms of non-adjusted ELO. Fischer's ELO in 1972 adjusted for the massive ionflation is 2,850. Fischer in 1972 had the biggest gap in skill between him and Spassky.

[@19037vinny]

@@GraemeCree That's only because he stopped playing at 2785.

[@GraemeCree]

@@19037vinny Exactly, he was never 2850, you just think he should have been. I think Morphy would have been 3500 if he hadn't stopped, so that beats Fischer.

[@Salas100786]

Today's grandmasters train with chess engines, memorizing sequences of side variants and copying the engine's suggestions. The human factor is playing less and less here, if you want to be great, play like a computer.

[@TheVanillatech]

Basically why Bobby quit, wasn't it? It't not "fun" anymore, when the magic is gone. Fischers chess was appreciation. Todays chess is regurgitation.

[@michaelwirth6843]

Yes but Carlsen nearly beat Kasparov when he was 15 and haven´t memorized all these chess moves.

[@LuisFernando-ot9yv]

Fischer was a freaking beast. Playing decades ahead of his time. Fantastic game review.

[@ngc-fo5te]

No he didn't play decades ahead of his time - that is nothing more than mythology.

[@maxwellndlovu4461]

The way Fischer plays it's like he is teaching chess to an audience on how to beat your opponent.

[@ryan_the_red_4907]

Probably the best game presentation ive seen

[@aaronf.186]

My questions is, would Fischer have benefitted from chess engines or would they have ruined his brilliant style of play? In one of his interviews he talked about hating chess as it is today because the GMs of today heavily rely on memorization and theory, based on engine recommendations.

[@jackm4457]

Fischer was the greatest of his era, at the end of his activity in 1970-72. BUT we can never be sure that he would have dominated another era. There's a game where Fischer crushes Reshevsky in a Dragon Sicilian in 15 moves. Fischer used a trap that had recenntly been analyzed in Soviet chess literature. that was unknown to other players in the US. In today's chess world, every serious player would be aware of the trap, used by Fischer, within days of it first being played, no matter where it was first essayed. Before mega-databases and chess engines, Fischer's work habits and amanzing memory put him at a huge advantage vs his contemporaries. But today, that advantage would have been far less.

[@infinitymarketing3410]

Greatest chess rivalries that never happened: Fischer vs Stockfish

[@DanDDirges]

Bobby Fisher is the Babe Ruth, Wayne Gretzky and Michael Jordan of chess. But Bobby once said that Paul Morphy was the best.

[@Theodicy101]

Thank you for your great channel where your always pick excellent games, give succinct but clear analysis and offer nice history of games, tournaments, and players. I love your title here and agree with you completely...and apparently you have a number of subscribers/commenters that agree...that Fischer was better than current grandmasters, even the exceptional ones. I know that Karpov, Kasparov, Carlsen, and some others are phenomenal players and have had amazing accomplishments, but as others on here note, Fischer not only played phenomenally well, but he did it before computers, when there wasn't a lot of depth to US chess, and when the Soviets all worked together to control the world championship and to dominate other major tournaments. As someone noted, at adjurnment, Fischer was basically alone--perhaps with one "second", as with Fr. William Lombardy in Reykjavik in '72--whereas the Soviets had many top grandmasters, several of them former world champions, helping analyze positions and to prepare for future rounds. Futhermore, the US has, sadly, never valued chess consistently (only after Fischer won in '72 and it was a "fad" to many for a few years), and Fischer learned the game from his sister, Joan, and was largely self-taught, working tirelessly for years (including dropping out of high school to singlemindedly pursue chess) and without any significant sponsorship. Yet, virtually alone, he won (with his first championship at age 14) a still-unparalleled eight US Open Chess Championships losing only three games in all eight and winning in 1964 by 11-0 (also still unparalleled); beating Taimanov and then Larsen, each 6-0 in the '71 Candidates; was getting over a respiratory illness when he sealed his challenger spot against Spassky by beating Petrosian 6 and 1/2 to 2 and 1/2 in Buenos Aires; handily beat Spassky by 12 and 1/2 to 8 and 1/2 to be the first official American world champion, even after having lost game 2 by forfeit when he refused to appear; and then after living in significant isolation for 20 years and playing no tournaments during that time, he came out of retirement in 1992 to again play Spassky, beating him 10-5, with 15 draws. In my opinion, Fischer was better--perhaps significantly so--than all modern grandmasters. And, being a beacon for US chess and a national hero, how the US government treated him in 1992, when he defied the ridiculous US sports sanctions against Yugoslavia (especially considering that humanitarian, art, educational, sports, and cultural exceptions have always been made even with travel to Cuba) and played Spassky there (and the US DOJ issued an arrest warrant, even coercing Japan to jail him for a while), was immoral and disgraceful. Thank goodness the Icelandic Althing (parliament) quickly granted him asylum and citizenship, and he was able to live out his life in a wonderful country amongst wonderful people that valued and loved him, as opposed to his birth country which betrayed him.

[@mikhailbot.6989]

Excelent explanation! Thank you Master por revealing the greatness of Bobby Fischer!!!

[@SpaceCadet4Jesus]

Another great presentation by ChessDawg!

[@theUroshman]

The entire game felt like a rollercoaster! Fischer was loving risky business and was always treading on thin ice. It was mind-boggling to play pawn a7 at the end instead of Be3, demonstrating that he can win even if he lets black promote his c pawn into a queen with a check! Crazy!

[@jasonparker6138]

Why does the Winawer violate strategic principles? Is it because of trading the bishop for the knight? Just curious. I'm new to opening theory.

[@dannygjk]

Positionally weak relatively speaking. Look into black weaknesses in any opening where black plays e6 or d6. Even the KID has been found wanting over the decades by strong humans and engines.

[@gottadomor7438]

@10:40: Newb's question? Why not black Q to A5?

[@kfcheah5697]

Chess playing style for the current crop of top players is different from Fisher's playing period. Now, players with white do not strive to take advantage of their first move but instead use their middle game and end game skills to win. This style has made it easier for black to play.

[@joesc777]

Great video mate - keep it up!

[@Orion-zq8jf]

What a flex letting him have his queen with check at the end lol

[@gokuswanson2037]

Players are so much better now, no one will be able to do what Fischer did but at the same time he could have never done that today

[@dannygjk]

People mistake opening knowledge for true chess strength. For example Morphy would do well today if you gave him two years of practice. Other examples Alekhine, Capablanca, and Lasker. I have analyzed thousands of GM games with engines. Even strong players today make many mistakes in their games.

[@gokuswanson2037]

@dannygjk I think given time Morphy could but my bet is on Jose Capablanca on who could jump into chess today and still be an absolute monster

[@gokuswanson2037]

@dannygjk I'm actually related to Frank Marshall so I may be a bit biased but capablanca is my favorite player and I know his story so well. In the end games especially he was the first chess engine

[@MarcHeuer]

Look at the candidates Tournament in Toronto, players start their games equipped with otherworldly engine preps in their heads, reach weird positions that people in Fischer's era would never have gone for, and again and again lose their heads in the arising complications. High Level chess is so different than it was in 1971. That doesn't mean they are weaker players today, but the approach has changed significantly.

[@rhemaislife]

I like the way you explained everything. Thank you

[@michaels4255]

BTW, I once read that Larsen chose to play the French in this game specifically because it was thought that the closed pawn structure in the French was harder for Bobby to play against than the more open games.

[@MarcHeuer]

Fischer's win rate on his run to the World Championship was incredible. High level chess back then was much more drawish than it is today, so he was more than one step ahead of his opponents back then. Unfortunately he was done after the 72 match.

[@anderslarsen4412]

Bent Larsen was such a good player. Until Fischer he was the only non-Soviet (western) player that stood a chance against the best from the CCCP. But they would collaborate against their western opponents. They'd train and analyze together - even throw games to fix match results, if it benefitted the CCCP - so he was at a disadvantage. When looking back at his games, people unfairly criticise Larsen's play. They point to where he played suboptimal moves, or outright "bad" openings. In reality, he was basically forced to use unusual openings, just to get the Soviets out of their superior prep....kind of like how Carlsen is now famous for playing "weird" opening moves today. Larsen's unusual style and choice of openings made for more interesting chess. It showed other players that you dont always have to "stick to the script". That you can win without always playing the "correct move". As a danish person it hurts a bit that Larsen is only ever mentioned as "the one who got thoroughly beaten 6-0 by Fischer". He deserves a lot more credit than that.

[@19037vinny]

Larsen was never World champion.

[@plouischenu]

He was good looking tho ❤

[@mrsta8541]

He does deserve much more credit than that, a marvelous player. One of the very best.

[@hectorg5809]

I think Larsen's trash talking before getting swept 6-0 dulled his fame a little. Bent was very sure that he was going to beat Fischer because, after all, how was an American going to win the chess title?

[@mrsta8541]

@@hectorg5809 "... how was an American going to win the chess title?" With crushing, unprecedentedly obliterating power, apparently lol. It's a good point you make.

[@PianoDigitalScores]

Why does black move twice (after bishop to b4)?

[@Haufpunk]

I've read quite a few of Dvoretsky's books and he had a high opinion of Fischer's games. Dvoretsky knew what he was talking about.

[@HRaz100]

Fantastic game and fantastic video - thank you!

[@GerardSoricelli-jf2dq]

Fischer would have destroyed Karpov in '75. Under his terms of the first to win 10 games ....draws not counting...Fischer would have made Karpov quit after being up 8 wins against a measley 2 games. !!!. No contest !!

[@huk2617]

Can you prove this? glazer

[@OwenBanks-zl8yt]

I never tire of seeing this brilliant game by the all-time greatest world chess champion. Thank you for the post & fine analysis!

[@victor6010]

bro by the way I saw other analyses of this game from different people and they all said Larsen resigned here 12:10 like what the heck? what's your source? where can I find this game? did these people got the analyses wrong for some reason?

[@Z3r0_d4yz]

Bobby Fischer always will be my number one favorite chess player!