Do We Finally Know the Identity of the Man in the Iron Mask?

[@obsessivelyobsessed5263]

isn't it possible that Voltaire came up with the iron mask as a metaphor for being kept silent by force of law, as well as to hide his identity?

[@no_i_dont_want_no_slugs]

that's what i thought it was

[@thefinalfrontear]

my theory is that the multiple doors of his cell were the iron mask. i think if he was ever described as being “masked by iron” it could have been misinterpreted as a literal mask

[@oppaloopa3698]

@@thefinalfrontear Ooo that’s interesting!

[@midgetman4206]

Well, the fact that there is evidence of A guy existing, perhaps a literal mask man wasn't.

[@kenm2709]

the letters provide proof that he was an actual prisoner, we are passed proving if he was real or not

[@Carplit1]

This guy is honestly one of if not the greatest story teller

[@uncommon-commonsense]

Him and Mrballen.

[@TheLampeKing]

@@uncommon-commonsense sam o nella

[@aced9852]

Unfortunately he talks too much and says too little often, probably for watch time. His videos could be a third or maybe even half the time

[@arisparrein7476]

🤫

[@uncommon-commonsense]

@@TheLampeKing Thank you for the reference. I've been looking for some new stuff to watch.

[@jeffrapier947]

I figure, if it was someone kept alive, it would have to be someone who the king held a significant sentimental attachment to, or a bitter enemy whom the king felt just putting him (or her even) to death would be too quick. Someone the king would want to have suffer. A random valet who knew a dirty secret would just be beheaded and done with.

[@jaustill237]

I've always assumed that it was an ex-boyfriend.

[@magsmcgarrigle981]

So, he had enough empathy not to kill him, but made him suffer the rest of his life? Royals. What a bastard. Pardon the pun. 🥜’s

[@slightliestupid9]

@@jaustill237 wow that is a really good theory

[@Razer5542]

The prisoner must've been family/a relative or perhaps a high ranking politician that wanted to throw dirt on Louis, otherwise it would be better to just kill the prisoner off somewhere. Perhaps that the real name is written somewhere in a book that's being held behind locked doors in the deepest parts of the Vatican library, where only a few select people are allowed to come.

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

@@magsmcgarrigle981 no, he wouldve wanted the person to suffer more lol

[@NewDawnCircle]

Voltaire: "we should be rational and only do and believe things based on evidence." Also Voltaire: spreads rumours with no evidence.

[@jioden9665]

Can’t blame someone for loving gossip

[@riftvallance2087]

He means other people's rumors of course

[@andywilchsalem2377]

*CasPer; I Know that is too Deeep for your small Brain, to Understand!!!!*

[@dreambuilder4536]

Well there's an obvious answer here: a social experiment to find out if people were taking his advice Spoiler: they didn't

[@venomxo4075]

He has no proof .

[@incredibleflameboy]

The man in the iron mask was the first attempt at forming slipknot. I firmly believe that the heavily guarded prison was a secret recording studio where look outside your window was recorded

[@Val.Kyrie.]

Nailed it.

[@Damen.Biervliet]

Yea. Like the iron mask looks like Mick thomson's mask🤣

[@debkillz930]

This is the best one I have seen 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CallofFreaky]

that would be metal as fuck

[@jayme1776]

Shredding on the lute

[@BelcarrigFarm]

Maybe the real man in the iron mask was the friends we made along the way

[@drown_n]

Didn’t have to look long for this one. Still funny as shit.

[@karbyyyyyy]

Reeeee

[@BlueeJ]

You guys made friends? ):

[@jerrys4841]

Maybe the prison keeper Saint-Mars was being used, against his will, to keep the iron mask locked up? Iron mask probably was a nobody but Saint-Mars was forced to keep him alive as long as possible. When did iron mask die and when did Saint-Mars die?

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

Throw some cancer into the mix Hi Maybe the real man in the iron mask was the friends we made along the way, I'm dad

[@Warfiend]

The fact that they kept him alive for so long is what makes those theories possible. Normally they would just kill someone in that situation, especially in the 1600s it was an absolute monarchy. He must have been too "important" to kill, so instead he was basically tortured for 30 years, sheesh.

[@Sombre____]

Wrong, Louis XVII where not kill.

[@Warfiend]

@Real Aiglon You're an actual clown and apparently you can't read, I never said they killed for no reason.

[@tylerarmstrong4566]

Incest in Royalty, Baby's are too young for ppl of that time to know if his son had normal intelligence or not

[@AshleyMartin-f3x]

I think he was royalty and the king at that time stole his Thorne

[@danMdan]

We KNOW he was not "important", because of his treatment. A member of the nobility would not have been obliged to serve in prison as a valet to the really important prisoner Nicholas Fouquet, the ex. Superintendant of Finance, and a Marquis, also a long term prisoner of Louis XIV. And secondly when, at one stage, he was moved to his next prison his bedding was sold very cheaply. An aristocart in prison was still treated as one, even as a prisoner. There would have been a very good reason why he was not just killed, we don't what it was, and may never know. However Louvois and Louis XIV had to, to some extent, work within the rules. Remember a "lettre de cachet" had to be sent to the Major of Dunkirk to legitimise the initial arrest, and transfer Eustache all the way across France to Pignerol prison. This is a clear indication that Louvois, for a reason, was working within the law, and the existing correspondence shows he continued to do so for many years.

[@silverhawkscape2677]

When it comes to the storyteller Genre on KZbin. 42 is one of the best of the Best!

[@DyR4Ka]

Also MrBallen

[@thedevilhimself8521]

Rob Gavagan is a mighty rival.

[@dustbunnys]

42 comes first!

[@caidavid4378]

No he is the best

[@luridftwgaming8983]

Perfect channel when I’m relaxing at night before bed

[@gamma1338]

Maybe the "Iron Mask" was the amount of iron doors that stood between his identity and the outside world?

[@Stowneyo]

In French that's almost a direct translations

[@cole5601]

I recently discovered your channel and I'm learning so much interesting things. Thanks for keeping up the hard work!

[@jbird4478]

Do We Finally Know the Identity of the Man in the Iron Mask? Short answer: No Long answer: No

[@escapedcops08]

That's all I needed to know, 17 minutes of nothing would have been a waste of time.

[@seanroy3241]

Longer answer: Noooooooo

[@jbird4478]

@@escapedcops08 It's not nothing. I mean, he tells the story in his usual interesting way, so if you don't know about it, it is certainly worth the watch. The title is just... meh. But he'll annoyingly change that anyway.

[@jbird4478]

@@warpstar4282 Oh, you poor thing. Are they hurting your feelings of insecurity?

[@warpstar4282]

@@jbird4478 and I won't stop until I get my revenge

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

We may not know the identity of the man in the iron mask, but who's the man behind your mustache?

[@BabyRibs]

Thoughty1

[@elokin300]

Ironic since you don’t have a mustache

[@floccinaucinihilipilificat3684]

We can all identify ourselves with the man in the iron mask!

[@noahhyde8769]

One thing's for sure: with that description, Voltaire was NOT a 'progressive' leftist. He was the opposite. He was a true, classic liberal.

[@DJDisalwaysright]

Thoughty2^2

[@britannicgeneral7460]

"We live in an era"-Englishman with a good sense of moustache....wait a minute...

[@ClintThrust-e8r]

That moustache needs to be on a register.

[@britannicgeneral7460]

@@ClintThrust-e8r A license for it perhaps?

[@ThirstysURL]

Can you imagine retraining your head hair even...these guys do that with the bit of hair on their top lip

[@sumvs5992]

This is truly a current era moment

[@ClintThrust-e8r]

@@britannicgeneral7460 sorry, zero tolerance.

[@jorgenamnum6481]

its crazy how the plan to keep him a secret worked perfectly

[@jackryanTV]

Haha fr

[@gr3yfaerie]

I watched this video and then talked about this with my mum after university today - we discussed the gay theory, and how it draws interesting parallels to the film, but also it just makes sense. Honestly even though I’m doing a Bachelor’s in History and plan on getting my PhD, this guy has taught me more than my tutors have, and I’m more engaged in this type of content than with any of my previous history classes 😭

[@tonicastel5933]

The French kings had such extensive power, believed to be divinely appointed, that only a truly significant moral or existential threat would have compelled Louis XIV from executing someone who clearly presented a big threat to him. The fact that he kept the prisoner alive hints to me that the prisoner was a blood relation to Louis, meaning that his murder would result in eternal punishment of Louis’ eternal soul. If the prisoner were a disgraced courtier, general or any other subject, no such eternal obstacle would have existed to his execution.

[@countofdownable]

Precisely anyone other than a blood relative would have been killed immediately.

[@chaostourist2951]

makes sense. the movie made me fond of the twin idea.

[@Vikingbiznitch]

So, maybe it WAS his father cus the royals certainly didn't have problems with killing siblings...

[@TheKulu42]

I'm inclined to go with the father theory. In the version I've heard, the poor guy looked far too much like his royal son. The idea is that since Louis 13 couldn't provide an heir, a suitable substitute was found to do the job and keep the royal line going.

[@Prince0fm0rbid]

Ummm good theory and all, but being kept alive doesn't actually prove he was a blood relative or any kind of relation at all. It just proves he was important, one way or another, and an execution would've been an extremely bad idea. He could've easily have been a religious figure who they couldn't kill because it wouldvev made him a martyr. We just don't know.

[@cuff2860]

Definitely one of your most interesting videos. I know the movie in ‘98 was fictional, but it’s absolutely one of my most favorite films from that decade.

[@psychedelicpayroll5412]

I’m actually planning on watching it and maybe reading the book series.

[@mnassif3809]

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[@jessp9143]

@@mnassif3809 warning takes way longer than minute ;)

[@maxbuchanan9306]

Now, let's get realistic: Solitary Confinement has some pretty drastic effects on the human mind. After the 5th year kept in such a manner, Whoever the guy was, he would be a gibbering Lunatic. The notion that Anyone would listen to, or even Understand, a word he said after his mind degraded in the dark, is highly unlikely. Meaning the containment procedures and secrecy had little to do with What he Knew, and Alot more to do with Who he Was. Now, consider Just How Many people royals killed or had killed with little to no regard, and the chance of it being anyone who wasn't a Direct Blood Relative of the king is slim to none. And now, how many royals killed their siblings? Many. How many killed their Fathers to ensure their own rule? Quite a few. But yknow who Often (but far from Always) escaped the chopping block? Children. Specifically Male children, legitimate or illegitimate. I think the man in the mask was the illegitimate Son of the king, who after his discovery, even likelier still the illegitimate heir to the throne who prior to being discovered had taken up the Cloth (priest or monk or friar etc) as it was Very much so frowned upon to Kill holy men. Furthermore: the soundproofing. Sure, if he knew some specific secret it'd be lost to the madness. But the constant reciting of holy texts and prayers, the kind of thing you could Only learn if you were a) Literate and b) A Member of the Church? That kind of indoctrination sticks with you, and in an Era when Literacy was almost entirely reserved for the Nobility OR the Church? That's a Clear signal to anyone who hears him saying that is a Nobleman, and Likely a holy man. Worse so if he both Looked like AND sounded like his father, the King. Just my two cents worth.

[@WobblesandBean]

Not related to him. Possibly related to ANOTHER very, very important dignitary that he knew would get him in a ton of trouble if he executed him. So he could maintain plausible deniability by saying "yeah sure, of course he's alive, he's being VERY well cared for"

[@AnthonyIlstonJones]

Very plausible theory Buchanan-san, but sadly Louis did a very good job of hiding the evidence. It's likely we'll never know for sure, but I for one very much doubt it was someone unrelated to the King.

[@Dan_Kanerva]

"solitary _confinement has pretty drastic effects on the human mind. After the 5th year kept in such a manner, he would be a gibbering_ lunatic" False , there are many Iraqi ex-prisoners who were in solitary confinement for longer and they were still lucid human beigns

[@maxbuchanan9306]

@@Dan_Kanerva were they kept in solitary confinement in fuckin Medieval Europe, unable to interact with Anybody but the same goddamn Person, who also had No idea who they were? Even Iraqi war prisoners have more than One guard on rotation, are capable of talking to Each Other in some capacity, and have a touch Better accommodations than a cell Specifically Designed to prevent you from even Experiencing human contact Whatsoever, in a time and place that lacked running water.

[@allisonasher8350]

Man spent 20 mins on something only 64 like Lol

[@blackoceancreativeuniverse]

"Why have vanilla ice cream when you have have mint choc chip, indeed."- Alexandre Dumas, from his seminal work, "The Man in the Ice Cream Mask" (1733)

[@hannahwebster5606]

Apparently in this time period there was debate over which twin was oldest - The one who was born second was sometimes seen to have been conceived first. In this situation there could have been a lot of rivalry over who the true heir to the throne was.

[@penitentone1732]

Thats most likely the case. If time between them was short, younger one knew 100% he would just stay in his older brothers shadow for as long as older one is ruling. So “hiding” your older brother for the sake of you being the emperor is quite legit reason when it comes to royalty

[@lindsey4178]

Sorry, I'm a bit late to the party. Lol. I would absolutely consider your suggestion but wouldnt that mean the parents hid the brother before the twin would ever have a chance to see him as a threat? Please keep in mind, I'm not versed in this whole story but I found your comment interesting.

[@titusXpullo]

"The Man in the Velvet Mask" would've actually been a cool title

[@WobblesandBean]

[@aquadoze8932]

The Man in the Velvet Veil. ;)

[@aquadoze8932]

Since we have no evidence of his profession, I’d go one further & refer to him as ‘The Velvet Veiled Vagrant’

[@Grizzly-i6s]

no it sounds gay

[@Afrikoe]

It probably has to do with the French words for "fur" (some specifiek kind), "glass" and "iron". "Vair", "verre" and "fer" respectively. They kind of sound alike. So the mask was made of soft fabric, like the slippers of Cinderella. There. Mystery solved. You're welcome.

[@Erik_Swiger]

"The Man in the Furry Mask" LOL

[@pricklypear7516]

I had heard that about Cinderella's slippers. Frankly, glass slippers sound like a terrible idea to me!

[@kdvincent1982]

No one thanked you.

[@Lightning_Lance]

Thank you

[@raylightbown4968]

This immediately occurred to me, too, as a likely possibility. Of course, the alleged mistranslation of Cinderella's shoes is refuted as Perrault wrote "verre" in the original story, at least according to Stopes.

[@bigpapa4207]

I’m convinced he’s saying 42 on purpose now knowing we all think that’s what he says

[@DD-mu5me]

he is saying 42. the ai picks it up. say thoughty 2 and then forty 2. the ai will pick it up. the ai always says he say 42 not thoughty2. he is saying 42 and fucking with us, confirmed thru ai.

[@carterhall2653]

His accent is saying thoughty2, listen to when he says "3", it sounds like he says "Free" it's the region he comes from in the UK. There are many different accents throughout Great 🇬🇧Britain

[@HashknightGaming]

He does say 42 it's a reference the ultimate question of the universe and everything.

[@caff8602]

His accent drops th and replaces it with an f sound. Thought is pronounced fought, Think is pronounced fink. East Londoners all have this accent.

[@nahbirdie4773]

That was exposed ages ago. Tsk tsk. He does it on purpose as an inside joke. Go back to his oldest videos. He did a Q+A

[@luvprue1]

I always found the fact that he wore a mask so no one would know who he is very interesting. It seem like there would be some records of who he was , and why he wore the mask. I like to believe that maybe he was the king's half brother/brother that the king didn't want anyone to know about.

[@danMdan]

No evidence beyond gossipy rumors.

[@luvprue1]

@@danMdan Exactly. We have no evidence.

[@joemarandino8044]

Such a fantastic you tube channel. Thanks for uploading these vids.

[@coreylong4855]

"Why have vanilla ice cream when yoy can have mint choc chip?" And this, sir, is why you're one of thee best.

[@neilfranklin5644]

Raspberry ripple.

[@vomik3]

This made me cringe when he said it. I expect that from a valley girl that can't spell correctly and needs to abbreviate things. 🤣

[@E2001-w1g]

Cringe 😬

[@coolstarb.]

now that's what l call a real question.

[@TheEvertw]

While a great mystery, the man in the Iron mask was more than likely a close relative to the King. There is no way he would have left anyone else with such a terrible secret as this man must have held, alive.

[@schwingedeshaehers]

But the prisoner or family had to have something, why he couldn't kill him that easily

[@TheEvertw]

​@@schwingedeshaehers If the family knew something, they would also have been in prison / the grave. The grave will keep its silence for ever... People who believe that they have been appointed by God to rule regardless of what they do, don't usually care much for the lives of others. (BTW, that is why the MAGA movement is so scary & evil)

[@Jynxedlove]

The velvet could have looked like iron in torchlight, especially with a quick glimpse.

[@righty-o3585]

And from a distance since nobody was allowed near him. I was thinking the same thing 😁🤘

[@papachrist200]

@@warpstar4282 that’s wild bro thanks for letting everyone know

[@warpstar4282]

@@papachrist200 😢 Jesus

[@liamalexander8]

@@warpstar4282 just stop

[@warpstar4282]

@@liamalexander8 no 😠 my war is never done i will join the u.s. military just so I can do thing

[@Bagio1221]

RIF is back :D been years since i listened to one of your RIFs

[@amberrehl5716]

You have one of the best channels on KZbin. I'm obsessed with your content.

[@Laffy-ix5xy]

So, to be more precise, it's "The man behind the velvet hood and several iron doors." It just doesn't have the same ring to it.

[@mnassif3809]

Please read for 1 minute, I beg you God created time, and time has a beginning, middle, and end, and so God has no beginning as time doesn't apply to him before he created it. Please continue reading below. God had to of create time. Think about it, also who created stars and planets if life created itself? Think about it, if God exists he created the whole earth and space, cant he make you sleep and eat less? If you go from sleeping 8 hours a day and getting tired if you sleep 6 hours, to having blessing in your sleep and sleeping less (4 or less hours, personally it gets shorter over time for me as I have more trust in god) it proves a God exists to me. Also it might only be 6 hours for you at first but i suggest taking it slow and working up to trusting that God can make you sleep 4 or so hours Thats what I did. I slept at first for 6 hours instead of 10 when I tried relying on God. Now I slept today for 2 hours or so. I work it up over time. Try it for yourself and see. Just turn off your alarm and trust in God. Please continue reading below. This experience really proved a God exists to me and now I really care for my time as I can utilize it to raise me in the hereafter. It will raise you a lot in paradise if you believe and there is no harm in believing in the one god. You can even believe in your own God(s), no offence but I just want to spread the word. As think about a trash can filled with tiny rocks and you take out a rock every 20 years. All the rocks can be taken out and you are still in paradise. Isn't it better to invest for the next life even if there's a just 20% chance god could exist? And God says in paradise there are things you can't imagine, so a thousand times an orgasm or a thousand times the flavor of your favorite food is a possibility. My teachers taught me you just trust in God and get what you believe. Nowadays I sleep 30 minutes and eat a few bites. Also if you try to get blessing and start sleeping less, be sure to share this comment to your family and friends for their own good, just show them this comment :) invitation to god is a great deed And let them know to share this comment as well Please see below to copy this comment. I also advise sharing this comment with your social following or even running ads to it as invitation to God is rewarded as if you get multiple red camels if you convert 1 person and the equivalent would be multippe red BMWs in our time so imagine getting 100 thousand dollars for each convert. I urge you to share this message or post it all over youtube. Please click the link to copy and paste this comment and feel free to edit it however you please: pastebin.com/EyD6CBRW But first see our site below. If you want to learn more, click this link to a site that proves which God exists. Abookwithfacts.com This site includes my cure to corona I also try to dedicate the extra time I have to god as I would be sleeping anyways. God really loves you helping people so I suggest you get the app Freerice which donates a bowl of rice when you answer 10 vocabulary questions. Of course you dont have to 🙂 but I would suggest it as it would raise you in the next life and better it Thank you for your time and have a great day 🙂 Please I beg you for your own good, believe in God

[@vendettamedianl]

Maybe the Man in the Mask was the real Louis the 14th himself. Maybe an imposter sat on the throne.

[@Razer5542]

Just as in the movie.

[@princessglittersparkle4146]

Oh that is a great hypothesis.

[@j.h-j5j]

What a plot twist!

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

Louis XIV was not the imposter.....

[@luvprue1]

😊 I like the theory. That the only thing that would actually make sense for why the king would go through so much for one person, or that the man in his iron mask his real father.

[@mexre2855]

"Do We Finally Know the Identity of the Man in the Iron Mask?" Isnt it Robert Downey?

[@paulgoogol2652]

Its no coincidence that Elon Musk and Iron Mask are so similar.

[@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869]

Leonardo DiCaprio's twin

[@boxeswithfoxes]

@@paulgoogol2652 elon mask

[@arinray5720]

*THANK YOU* Was looking for an ironman joke

[@jackdurden466]

You guys realize that Robert Downey Jr. actually has masks that he has to wear when he goes out in public to avoid getting bombarded by either paparazzi or fans.

[@nbHawkeye]

I remember the first time I heard a similiar story was in Ducktales where Scrooge went to visit a good friend of him who was the king of some small country but as he got there he seemingly changed completely. As you learn in that episode the evil twin brother of said king threw the true monarch into jail covering his face with an iron mask.

[@littlesongbird1]

Off topic but man I loved the original ducktales

[@whatanitemare]

After just watching your vid on how our lack of attention spans are really the byproduct of big business using tricks like click bait, I find it interesting that you drew us in with the suggestion that the man in the iron mask had possibly been identified, just to have us find out in the end that nothing new has been determined. Don't know whether to laugh or sock you on the nose!

[@danMdan]

Eustache Dauger it was.

[@PaulRumbold-wk5re]

@@danMdan 180! good research reveals this

[@robertcurtis3815]

I've done it.... I've bought your book. Standard normal version. Well done Dude. It had better be an easier read than the theory of everything! X

[@chrishall9892]

Its crazy that whoever it was that they made it so water tight that we cant even slightly figure it out today. Whoever it was, he was very important.

[@jessp9143]

Imagine they had cell phone an cameras back then. Mystery solved

[@davidkermes393]

Never heard the theory that the Man in the Mask was Louis XIV's "natural" father. Kind of an attractive idea.

[@Prince0fm0rbid]

So is the movie theory that it was a twin

[@ROMEgreeneyes]

They got the idea from the show Versailles that the man in the iron mask as the real father of king louis

[@hemantrathore8581]

Man You spoiled the video

[@Hi-xu9xn]

Repent of your sins and follow Jesus Christ Almighty.

[@HellishSinner]

I can confirm that It's very attractive. In fact I came twice to the idea.

[@jobes4525]

Not been a sub for long. But love your channel Thoughty 2. TY for your dedication. Great channel! X

[@PeteSavage-lg9fh]

You are a great source of entertainment. One of the top 5 one my list

[@paranoyd70]

Given the fact that the prisoner was kept alive and many extra steps were taken to keep him hidden, then this highly suggests that the man in the mask was a relative of sorts. Anyone else would have been executed, but keeping them alive would only suggest a relative.

[@patricktate4782]

@Real Aiglon dork

[@Darkhartx1]

His name was Griffith, former leader of the (in)famous mercenary company, The Band of the Hawk.

[@BanishedSilentShadow3318]

It's rumor that he escaped by some mercenaries notable a man with a huge sword

[@dontwurry2842]

Lol... Great reference I remember watching this Anime 15+ years ago...The original 1998 version.

[@stormruner9183]

Yes, and he misteriously dissapeared one day, with his whole group, during an Eclipse.

[@dontwurry2842]

@@stormruner9183 Its such a great, underrated, and deep anime worth the watch/read!

[@stormruner9183]

@@dontwurry2842 I agree 100%, Berserk is a masterpiece.

[@flamencoprof]

To me, the biggest question is why, as was said, a king didn't just make him dead. Although I wasn't alive at the time, I am told this was done on a routine basis, both publicly and privately. Therefore, examination of that king's personality and beliefs which may have discouraged execution would be the most productive area of research.

[@LenaFerrari]

Thank you for clarifying you weren't alive at the time, or I would have assumed otherwise

[@flamencoprof]

@@LenaFerrari I'm dead now.

[@LenaFerrari]

@@flamencoprof well, obviously...

[@DuckAllMighty]

The poison story during Luis XIV's rule is also one the most interesting stories of the late medieval times. It basically started bc of a woman wanted her fathers money and blew out of proportions to span the entire French nobility and court in the late 17th with a lot of nobles killing each other. A lot of shit happened during the Sun Kings reign.

[@DuckAllMighty]

@Real Aiglon I know, I guess you call that time period the renaissance

[@oliversherman2414]

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!

[@shadowman4315]

Just in case you haven’t seen the classic.. it turned out it was Leonard Dicaprio..

[@romeoreuben6601]

@The fuckeroos he's the guy from Big Bang Theory

[@SovietBear.]

@@romeoreuben6601 No no he's he guy from shrek duh

[@seeingyouaround]

@The fuckeroos i think he painted all those paintings

[@ducklingphallus]

Idiot. His name is "Lion-O Dicaprio" and he's the leader of the Thundercats.

[@lunar58071]

Leon "Ardodi" Caprio, the 29th president of the United States, duh. Did you even graduate kindergarten?

[@KonJonnorMusic]

"The Man in the Luxurious Velvet Face Covering" 😂 that NEEDS to be an album title

[@Vox193]

Thoughty2 is literally everybody's favorite social studies teacher

[@lyn2335]

@My names Jeff Yes.

[@mynameisyumyumgivemesum1412]

@My names Jeff ummm , the PC term would be "academically Unchallenged " sir. 🤗

[@Founderschannel123]

Yes we live in a era where a handosme young man thoughty2 with a fabulous moustache talks about amazing stuff

[@Founderschannel123]

@@mynameisyumyumgivemesum1412 lmao your comment too bri ish

[@mynameisyumyumgivemesum1412]

@@Founderschannel123 🤗 I get a clever one in here and there

[@thefisherking78]

"an unknown penis of some description" is officially the funniest phrase I've heard all week, at a minimum 😂

[@rosemaryfranzese317]

This is a great video. I love the theory about the mysterious prisoner being Louis’s real father. One thing is certain, if this mystery was ever truly solved people would soon likely lose interest. Imagine if it could be totally proved that Jack the Ripper was really a mentally ill and obscure person and not actually a member of the royal family, a famous art or an eminent surgeon, how many book deals would there be? Many people prefer the fantasy rather than the facts

[@wendywhite4537]

Thank you for the history lesson. I had never heard this story in its entirety. Love your videos.

[@laurenpiantino8312]

And you haven't now, Wendy! The man in the velvet mask may have been in prison for 30 years, but he was treated like royalty, or at least an aristocrat. He had a luxury jail cell, was given reading materials and other luxuries of the time. Our narrator creator of the video, somehow, forgot to mention those important details. :)

[@wendywhite4537]

@@laurenpiantino8312 Thank You

[@laurahernamdt896]

Recently found your channel. Love it

[@michaelmpole2152]

Video notification from Thoughty2 is the best feeling ever😊

[@jarehelt]

Actually Pharoah Pepi II is the longest reigning ruler in history. He ruled for 94 years

[@Oscarspoem]

Once I was struggling in life and I didn't speak to a fellow human in nearly two weeks. Twenty nine years seems incredibly cruel to do that to a person and the King must have had a heart of stone.

[@jonathanmoody8757]

"Do We Finally Know the Identity of the Man in the Iron Mask?" - Original Title Edit: Just to be clear, I understand why Arron changes the titles (YT algorithm). I'm not complaining that the title's change, I just like writing the original title in the comments so we all know what it was. BTW, I love your videos Thoughty2.

[@beoffjesos8503]

Begone demon, how darest thou say such vile things amongst us true listeners

[@Yarsito]

@@beoffjesos8503 amogus 😳😳😳

[@temmywemmy8544]

@@beoffjesos8503 among us?!?!? 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

[@tyhensley7076]

Still the title, so iv'e no idea what you're talking about

[@sund4169]

@@beoffjesos8503 yoo amigo us!!

[@jerry3790]

The instructions for storing the man remind me of the SCP foundation

[@Davidvanzutphen]

the SCP foundation reminds me of The bureau of Control...

[@zwippie92]

I honestly thought the Man in the Iron Mask was a fictional character from an old novel. Well, if Voltaire added or his mates in that 1 star hotel added it I guess it is technically fictional. I've always thought the iron mask was a bit too much but it does make for excellent story telling.

[@Winta_og]

Yes

[@duckgaming7518]

Yes

[@bruhman530]

How is this 3 hours old when the video is just a couple minutes

[@_i_am_unceded]

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[@michaelkarlin3727]

You were first

[@kingk2436]

A few theories: It's no secret that celebs use fake names for hotels. What stopped people from using fake occupations. Could the occupation listed be there just to throw others off? If it was someone involved in the poisonings, with that amount of effort in securing the prisoner never escaping, could he have been the one to create said poison? This would explain the need to keep him locked away to not only ensure he could not do damage to those in authority, but would also ensure he could not share the the recipe to enemies.

[@PlatinumStrikes]

Now that’s a real mustache. Instant subscribe.

[@GamingWithSpoons]

I've always found this a very intriguing story and watched many documentaries on it, but this is the first I've ever heard he didn't actually where an iron mask. Interesting

[@Fenrir72]

Jack Palance's Ripley's Believe it or Not portrayed the same non iron mask mythos.

[@clintballard521]

I straight up wanna smoke a joint and watch documentaries with this guy.

[@jer_ryb_]

Sadly you have no life and you NEED a job

[@SovietBear.]

@@jer_ryb_ says the guy with the fitting name "King Maddog" If ya got nothing nice to saymate Dont say it

[@jackagnell4781]

@@jer_ryb_ and where did you get all of that from?

[@oddity8611]

@@jer_ryb_ you need to smoke a doobie bro

[@paulgoogol2652]

Or you could get clean and get your shit together.

[@cCiIcCo]

The thumbnail...Finally we know what Thaughty2 is into...

[@joedredd1168]

1:53 My mother was in an art class in her college days in Bristol. Within that classroom she worked alongside a chap there who was really good at Street art specifically. That chaps name was Steve Banks. Makes you think.

[@croke835]

Do we know who it is? No Do we know Thoughty2 likes mint chocolate chip ice cream? Yes and that’s what’s important

[@felineboat2799]

I’m literally eating mint chocolate chip ice-cream as he mentioned it

[@kaimikalaniYT]

“Do we finally know the identity of the man in the iron mask?” I wonder what the next title and thumbnail will be

[@DarkWorldOrder]

Only early people will know 😂🤣

[@andromadus]

@@DarkWorldOrder yea

[@K_ingh16]

It's still the same, shocking

[@cs2874]

It seems he has a peculiar habit of often changing the titles of his videos within few minutes of upload.

[@krzysztofpl5871]

@@cs2874 ...why does this bother some people so much?! i don't get it..

[@rosefulmadness]

6:36 the number 1717 means " you have an essential life and soul mission to complete", do what you may with this information

[@shinoshiny]

When I saw the title, i thought ' wait wasn't the masked magician's identity revealed already?'

[@drmadjdsadjadi]

The Great Ice Cream Cone in the Sky appreciates the nod that mint chocolate chip ice cream is the best ice cream in the world.

[@mnassif3809]

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[@drmadjdsadjadi]

@@mnassif3809 who said I don’t believe in god? Please go bother others.

[@MartyWoodcock]

If we knew the grave location, DNA could be a huge help in identifying the man in the luxurious velvet facial covering.

[@thecryptofishist9565]

Well, if he died in the Bastille, he might have been buried there. And if his grave location in their graveyard was ever noted, that could easily have been lost, perhaps before 1789, very easily afterwards. He could be as lost as Mozart.

[@danMdan]

All old Paris graves were dug up and the bones can be seen on an underground visit to the catacombs.

[@jackdurden466]

There’s got to be one damn good reason why he was kept alive. I cannot think of any, and yet keep him locked up, face covered, and silent. It’s a truly strange story.

[@blue-im4yt]

Hey it's thoughty 2 here he even says it through struggles through lockdown he is good more people should watch him

[@kadashiuzubara2226]

OMG long time no see! You grew a mustache. I remember you when you wore a tuxedo whit such a young face! How time flies! Glad ive found you.

[@thelocalwitch5731]

Am I the only one who's always impressed by his introductions?

[@Tat2dGothic]

I've always liked the theory that he was actually Louis XIV and Philippe's bio dad. If you look at all the evidence it makes the most sense but this is one of those things we might never know.

[@danMdan]

if so he would have been nearly 90 when died in the Bastille. The prisoner himself gave his age when in the Bastille as about 60, so impossible.

[@sizwe.amabaso732]

"We finally know the identity of iron man" Original title

[@kvelez]

Why do people type in the comment section the original title, is it a game that you play with the subscribers and Arran, or is it just for no reason at all. I haven't been subscribed for so long so you understand.

[@sizwe.amabaso732]

@@kvelez its a stupid meaningless game just like life

[@kvelez]

@@sizwe.amabaso732 Life's not stupid.

[@TaiyoIsSleeping]

@@kvelez thoughty2 is notorious for changing video titles and thumbnails. So people start writing what title they see atm.

[@jjr1728]

This has been suggested for a while. You know what I hate? Popular youtubers that use clickbait titles and steal other peoples work with a lot less information yet pawn it off as their own idea.

[@ramblynrocketeer]

Genuinely remarkable video! ✨

[@plosslaw]

I can't be the only one who read the title as "Do We Finally Know the Identity of the Man in the Iron Man?"

[@thinlineofsanity1035]

Thats what mine still has for the title 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@SovietBear.]

Same here I was kinda confused

[@WobblesandBean]

That WAS the title. He edited it cuz it was too clickbaity

[@danMdan]

yes we know - Eustache Dauger

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

"Do we finally know the identity of the man in the iron mask" Original video title

[@thatguy5779]

As I’m watching it the original title is still up, what is it nowH

[@beoffjesos8503]

BEGONE BLASPHEMOUS HERETIC

[@MrVexedviper]

But has the thumbnail changed yet???

[@pamelamurphy5067]

It hasn't changed yet

[@enki647]

Your pfp gave me flashbacks

[@sofaking8754]

I've never heard the term Chinese whispers, in America it's simply called playing telephone.... Chinese whispers is way better I couldn't stop laughing Thank you thoughty2 for expanding my brain 🤯

[@dennismayfield8846]

BRAVO,Sir!!! Author-Author!! Presenter-Presenter!!

[@canjamin]

Best story teller on yt

[@adamdemirs3466]

If college lectures were like this I would already have my masters.

[@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718]

Speaking of famous prisoners, do Charles Bronson (the crazy guy stuck in UK solitary for 47 years, not the Death Wish actor).

[@northcoaster]

Interesting as always

[@colorado841]

This is why you never ask a Monarch about the extended warranty on his horse cart.

[@_barncat]

Daaamn you're born to royalty and this is the treatment you get

[@agyakwakuananse4655]

I always keep poking my phone to see whether there's a notification from thought2 . Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction, but I guess this whole "man in the iron mask" is made up, well maybe a gladiator or a dangerous warrior.

[@Austin_Wingfield]

I was hoping the video was only 5 seconds with him saying No

[@henzohewson]

“This particular bit of friendly, incest-related banta was so hilarious that Voltaire was immediately thrown in France’s most notorious prison: the Bastille.” 😂😂😂

[@nataliabirchall9093]

This would be a grate series

[@scallywag4978]

Serious question: Was the alleged entry found by rioters at the Bastille “Prisoner # 64389000, The Man in the Iron Mask” simply made up by someone and not really found at all? If there’s any validity to this claim, then apparently there was someone in an iron mask. I know it’s mentioned on the movie, but according to some writings it did exist. Sincerely curious.

[@danMdan]

Yes, fiction to support and justify the riot. The Bastille was never full of prisoners. It was not built as a prison but as a defensive work for Paris.

[@PaulRumbold-wk5re]

@@danMdan it is said they did find his skeleton inthe bastile with his mask still on,however it can't be true because the buried his body in church nearby and destroyed his head when he died,a beggar confides this.

[@danMdan]

@@scallywag4978 it has all the smell of a fairy story. Remember de Junca wrote in his prison diary, which still exists, that the the Man-of the Mask was most certainly buried,

[@peteredeoghon6457]

I always have Thoughty 2 to tell the truth about people I never heard about

[@mrmojomajestic8317]

100 views in the first minute. Not bad.

[@tyhensley7076]

How about 9k in 30 minutes lmao

[@mrmojomajestic8317]

Did I miss something ??

[@kvelez]

12:20 "Why have vanilla ice cream?" -Arran Lomas

[@moodycrab77]

Bought your book, subscribe to your podcast. Much vibs good.

[@Commenter26]

Who is the Man in the Iron Mask? Why, Tony Stark, of course

[@ricesandarling594]

i was gonna say that lol-

[@suegodfrey9676]

Funny. ❤😂

[@soapmanwap6969]

yes, MF DOOM

[@soapmanwap6969]

@Neo Hyperion bro what. i was just making a joke about MF DOOM the masked super villain