Why Codemasters could lose the F1 Games license

[@Baconism]

I think they shouldn't lose the license entirely, only the exclusivity. Let another studio try their hand at a F1 Racing game alongside EA Codemasters. Competition invokes progress. Competition is also a great thing for the consumer.

[@cameroncotham5475]

Agree great idea

[@Fuzzidio]

One idea I've heard is to allow EA or whoever to make a casual F1 career game, while also allowing a sim like AC or iRacing to go in and make a proper simulation for the online and f1 esports players.

[@paperplane-db8qf]

The thing is studios will pay a lot of money for exclusive rights and F1 is not going to turn that down.

[@RonaldWeasley-ng7ip]

Not enough money to go around

[@Baconism]

@@RonaldWeasley-ng7ip Pretty sure Liberty Media and the other companies in Formula One Group have more than enough to afford to have 2 separate game companies compete at making F1 games

[@tomicmihael4105]

Once EA took something over, you can forget that game

[@MrJojoringo]

Facts 💯

[@RobbertsTravelGuides]

You saw the writing on the wall yea

[@Raiders-wm5kb]

Bingo

[@AlanFormula12022]

​@@MrJojoringoEA always broke the game when they took something over.

[@yxyxyx2010]

@@tomicmihael4105 Why? the game wasn’t any good before EA took over.

[@disgruntledtaco3640]

As soon as EA got involved, codemasters were cooked, everything EA touches goes to shit

[@ciarankelman]

F1 22 was fully developed by codies by the time EA arrived .. and that sucked too , it's bigger than just EA

[@yxyxyx2010]

since EA took over we finally got the outdated tracks updated …

[@paperplane-db8qf]

Codemasters on their own was way worse than EA.

[@disgruntledtaco3640]

@@paperplane-db8qf casual

[@anthonyhoughton1454]

It literally is copy and paste every year. Lack of enthusiasm from developers to progress this series

[@danloki78]

Same for any yearly sports game. NBA madden etc etc

[@arkangelgaming35]

All annual games suffer from this.

[@xaviermaczko]

most likely not the actual developers choice, why would they want the game to be bad? its likely the managements choices

[@1Pandemoonium]

I miss Studio Liverpool F1CE on the PS3 was brilliant

[@pft_mike5886]

I really hope that they lose the license. I personally think they gonna give a chance to Milestone, they do great job with MotoGP which is already on unreal engine

[@IGG2002]

They LOST IT since the day EA bought the F1 games rights.

[@wearyolive76]

@@pft_mike5886 please not milestone.. they cannot code the ai to not ram you to save their life..

[@definitely_not_nick41]

Milestone is definitely the only correct option

[@arkangelgaming35]

No. They didnt. ​@@IGG2002

[@stormageddon248]

@@IGG2002I mean, no. They just made an F1 game lol.

[@klaralovesramen]

In my opinion, there should be a centralized F1 game instead of releasing a new one every year. The game could feature cars and teams from different seasons, starting from 2018, for example, with a career mode that allows you to experience multiple seasons and regulation changes. It would be designed for long-term play, updated every F1 season with new liveries, cars, and quality-of-life improvements. Perhaps they could even cash in on things like liveries, having collectible one-off liveries that teams used, which could act as skins do in games like Counter Strike. I think it could work, but it would be the culmination of all other games up to this point, and would require actual work from Codemasters' side, so I doubt we'll see something like that.

[@SultanOfAwesome]

Actually sound awesome. But yeah, codemasters would never put in the work for something like this

[@KayoMichiels]

There was one such game... F1 Challenge 99-02 from EA... but yeah.. we might never see such a game ever again!

[@gillescousineau28]

EA takeovers. The worst, as always. Any franchise they obtain, they just suck it dry. Ea acquired F1 back in the 90's, and it died within 2 years. Then as soon as codemasters was making a name for itself, EA swooped in again. I'm still playing 2021, but my all time favourite was 2012. Played all 20 teams, over 5000 hours.

[@marcelocamacho6641]

I don't want buy the same game every year. EA thinks we are stupid like all the FIFA players.

[@IGG2002]

@@marcelocamacho6641 Even the FIFA players themselves are not as stupid as everyone should describe EA.

[@paperplane-db8qf]

At least FIFA players play a game with lots of content, proper AI and some personality.

[@patrickmartinmolinari4477]

100% agree with you. I play f1 23 and have not bought f1 24. Until the game is free or I see a good change, I will not play the "newer" game!! I will put my money elsewhere!!!

[@verstappa]

Passion for money ruins the world.

[@tachyon108]

passion for money?!...just say GREED ruins the world

[@schnurrfpv4594]

@@tachyon108exactly

[@andreysab3432]

More like money over passion

[@eliashardy9528]

*Capitalism ruins the world

[@morganmartin9286]

Getting away from EA would be amazing. Maybe they should've listened to what the fans actually want and not adding crap that nobody asked for and just failed to advance the game features. There is no excuse when you have the community forums telling you what the fans want and the ability to deliver and still make profit. But they choose to do the bare minimum and this is the result.

[@Itzz_Iya]

I stopped buying the game when they remove the real teams from online ranked and replaced generic cars with skins that were micro transactions.

[@KENNITHH]

I often feel like what if they make a really good €60 / $60 game every 5 years and make a yearly DLC with updates of the championships (cars & drivers & stats) + add more drivers (new and old) + classic cars DLC packages so they can still earn money some way. (Kinda like Assetto Corsa/Automobilisa DLC's) I feel it would make the base game much better, more active imo

[@Naindurth]

The fact that an F1 RSS MOD for AC is a much better car, speaks for itself.

[@IBassGaming]

If you haven't already, try the VRC mod as well. It's even better imo.

[@jonboy2950]

For me 2020 and 2021 were the best versions of the game.

[@KARL___24]

State of the game is like in a april mode for the last 3 years now. Feels dead in many ways. There needs to be a change

[@jasonodlin8305]

It depends on if there is someone ready to take over straight away, and if there is, whether they have the resources required. Last time an F1 game producer lost the licence, we went 3 years without an F1 game while it sorted itself out. With F1 at an all time high in popularity, I don't imagine Liberty will want to risk a couple of years without any game at all while looking for a new licensee. Not to mention licenced games are expensive to produce and Liberty are clear about wanting an annual release. A smaller producer will simply not be able to commit to that so easily.

[@mrhxrse]

Mr Horse approves this video

[@stormageddon248]

That's high praise.

[@BTKperformance]

I've been playing F1 since 2010 and i can agree 2018 was the glory year and imo the best balance of having a solid driver feel with all aids off and also being approachable for new fans coming into the sport .......the game of itself at the time made you want to learn more professional techniques and get better. Its also a shame because the streamers that play the game the most and again imo are the best promoters of said game its sad that they get overlooked which doesn't make sense to me because when i got into competitive sim racing it was because of this channel. Because i wanted to experience that same level of immersion and competition, watching the highs and the lows of JD's journey. All the information as a resource to a successful game are literally in the community why not use it.

[@the_djake563]

I said to people that EA obtaining Codies would result in the subsequent games turning out like shit gradually, and they'll put out some sort of live service bullshit to further milk the brand and license. Sadly I was bang on the money. It's genuinely heartbreaking because since 2010 I have loved the F1 games but from F1 2021, I could see the cracks forming and getting bigger (bit like the Ego engine itself).

[@RPLAsmodeus]

They rehashed the same old tired game, repeatedly No improvement on character models, menu systems, cut scenes Anything 'new' they tried to add just failed to hit the mark No one cares about paid liveries and emotes, they're just exploiting gamers Career mode just isn't immersive and 'my team'' is severely lacking in the management side, at the very least you should be able to choose your team makes tyre strategy and pit lap.

[@IGG2002]

Codemasters LOST IT since the day EA BOUGHT THEM.

[@hmp01]

just stop with this narrative. codemasters are sill developers of the game. EA is just the publisher. Please learn that. the shareholders are not the ones coding this game, they are not the ones not being able fixing same bugs multiple games

[@kiingjackoff]

@@hmp01 The publisher pressures the developer into certain practises like re-use of assets, copy-paste releases. Basically everything wrong with the F1 games can be traced back to the pressure of the publisher.

[@xjuliussx]

let's pray they will loose it. They did a big bs from it.

[@linkuei69]

I quit halfway through '21. Didn't want to pay full price for the same game every year. When it comes to sports games you are basically paying for a fresh coat of paint in the menus and updated liveries and roster lineups, oh and a new game mode that nobody asked for lol. Every year they "fix" the handling model and the physics but its hit or miss if they get it right, or at least descent. The yearly release model simply doesn't work.

[@nicolasrodrigue]

Hi JD. Great content. i'm a Sim Racing streamer myself. If we compare the decline of F1 games versus others comparable racing games, we can see that the quality of product is direct correlation with the sales. IMO Assetto Corsa Competitzione is the most direct competitions for F1 games since it's been released years ago, has crossplay and is available on PC + Consoles. (versus Iracing's Pc only) The sales of ACC has only risen up since it's release and is in constant evolution as per F1 Games are just in constant decline.

[@spacebrainer]

As a casual player, I only have time to play this game a few hours every few weeks. I'm not going to pay for a new game, which is basically the old game, when after 1 year I've only had the chance to play it for 40 hours. I would only buy a new F1 game every 3 years or so.

[@lukeborg5353]

F1 2020 was amazing. I kept playing until the lobbies were completely empty. Now I'm staying on F1 23 until those die out or if F1 25 blows us away

[@IIMIKEYMOII]

It would be cool if they could just lend out the license so you can get official F1 cars in Gran Turismo and such. Then let a dedicated company make a dedicated F1 sim with the race weekend, career mode, and so on.

[@xclosedchainx]

This would be the best solution

[@UnitedSpotlight]

Its now EA there is no way they give up the F1 license they will just allow it to rot if it doesnt perform

[@kevinpi7488]

why we keep yearly releases? Just do one game for an entire regulation set, should give them more than enough time to make better release, as well as allowing the current game to be improved and refined just like teams refine their cars as regulations mature. This could allow an option at the end of the regulations a mode where career mode follows the evolution of teams throughout the whole set of regulations.

[@bideomanlol]

Let me buy the old games again. Even a collection. F1 decade edition with 2010 up to 2020.

[@lacko623]

@@bideomanlol Good idea! But perhaps a decreases price for the games you already own. Like in Raceroom where if you buy a carpack, and you already own some of the cars, their prices are deducted.

[@aku_]

This is an issue every sports category with seasonal changes has. You can look at FIFA and kinda compare between this and F1. Just looking at the audience you're already at a much higher average age for an F1 fan - you can play and understand the rules of football at any age but you're limited when it comes to driving or even understanding a car. But those 2 games also have the same issues - being seasonal. And that comes with little changes every year so its hard to notice except there's a big change in the sport itself or some big graphic related thing. We could also talk about the prices of wheels or setups in general just to even play the game. Take this in consideration + the price tag for the game every year, all the bugs we see on a seemingly copy/paste game and you get a winner for the "dying game" award.

[@olliep8117]

Yeh something is way off here, because I don't even think it's about the quality of each individual game anymore. Both the '23 and '24 games (despite the bugs) are much better than '22 imo. But I think they've pissed off so many players (especially with the '22 game) that they've just moved on from the franchise altogether and won't play these games any more full stop, regardless of whether they improve them. They're playing other games instead. '22 was their big chance to get and retain a new player base with EA coming on board, but they totally blew it. That's a hard fail in my book, and time for someone else to get the license.

[@channel4ferrets]

Our league is still on F1 23. First version since 2015 that I haven't bought yet.

[@shmazy86]

This is how ea has been operating for years with other franchise. As soon as I heard EA was taking over I knew the game would be like this, same game over and over. They are literally taking shit out of the game.

[@weagles_fan7467]

I haven't bought one since 2021. That was the year they announced EA was buying Codemasters, and I refuse to buy anything from EA on principle.

[@f1fanmaximal34]

Recently I took a break from the F1 games, played alot of GT7 and a little bit ACC on console. both of them pretty good games, Gt7 with a very very good handling model which is challenging and ACC with the variety of setup options (nerdy but i like it) So although these two games are very good, I returned to F1 23 few days back, and there's so many things that this game does right, like the Ai battles, and feeling through the tires, maybe not as good as GT7 but still good, the major problem is, Everything is a copy and paste for last 3 years and theres nothing new to explore or get challenged by, I personally would love A good handling model, classic cars and updated tracks and a good career mode ofc. thats all

[@KMSBoss2010]

F1 2013, 2018, 2020 and 23 are my favourite F1 games (by codemasters) F1 24 is the first codies F1 I haven't bought

[@carbonfighterfan96]

For the first time since F1 2011, I haven‘t bought the new F1 game… I would really love to see a new fresh from the scretch F1 game!

[@namugriff]

Makes me wonder if this is why EA/ Codemasters are going a different route with the WRC game by having a yearly DLC update instead of a whole new game each year, to see if that model works. Maybe we could see the F1 games go this way in the future. Release a base game and each year have a paid DLC for that season with new Drivers and Liveries.

[@schnurrfpv4594]

I mean they released a game and literally said it wont be ready till an update. Who the hell does that. They got no one to blame but themselves. They dont listen to the players at all they barely listen to the esports guys who play it for a living. I never seen a company that doesnt care what customers think. They also said they are not changing the handling model and classic cars will not return. So crap handling and couches is the goal. 75% loss of sales since last year is just nuts but makes sense

[@3pICTheAnimal]

I could say so much about this but nobody would listen anyhow, just like nobody listened when I literally said how people were cheering 3 years ago

[@sebastiansrensen6573]

I'm a guy that likes realism. When I drove league racing in 2019, 20 and 21 I actually felt like I drove an f1 car. It's sounds cringe, but it felt fast and it was a joy. All the bugs in the game I could survive, -200 degrees for example. If the game makes me enjoy spending my time on it, I'm okay with it. Since 2022 with the f1 life things and general handling issues I completely lost it. I drove 5 leagues a week in 19 and 20 and in 22 I drove 1. I didn't enjoy it. It's not Sims 4. We don't care about a couch or carpet. I bought f123, but played it like 100 hours. iRacing is just so much better. Every track is laserscanned, every car is perfectly detailed and it feels right. Yes f1 might be for a wider audience, but if the core leaves, then what is left? I didn't buy 24. No way I'm spending 80 pounds for that. That's 8 months on iRacing. They don't evolve the game and it get's worse every year. I'm sad about it because some of the best times in my life has been racing on the f1 games against people who love the sport. The downfall is just crazy and it comes from EA and Codemasters being arrogant and ignorant to their fanbase- just watch the FIFA or Madden communities. Alex Gillon made a video about EA and Codies not listening to the creators and Esport drivers. Aarav as well. Just not good enough. Personally I won't drive the games again before a new engine or some really encouraging video material and I think the only way to get EA and Codies to do better is buy showing them that we don't accept their ignorance.

[@julianboyd243]

When ea took over there were so many jokes on reddit about how this was bad news. Years later and everyone was right.

[@MeskaRacing]

I was upset on how many bugs and error were on 2021 so I had enough. I bought Asseto Corsa and installed 2022 rss formula and now 2023 alpha formula mods and I have much more engaging feeling of the game than the codemasters ones...

[@nicoxenidis8860]

Reiza studios should get the license and money then we will get a banger game

[@alphapapa5539]

I think the price has a lot to do with it as well as when the game is released. I might be wrong but the game is released towards the end of the F1 season when a couple of months later, drivers are at different teams, liveries, sponsors, designs etc. Also the game is getting more and more expensive and there is a lack of new features worth paying £55+ for.

[@cameroncrabbe4292]

The issue with rotating the license is the hiccups in the first year with a new developer, also at this rate even if they were to open the license up to other devs it would be 2-3 years before we'd see the new game... I think all of the leagues are doing fans a disservice having sports games like Madden, F1, 2K, EAFC to have exclusive licenses. We need parity and competition brings innovation

[@leonardocoronado4671]

And just to add, I think the way the game is being "promoted", as needing a setup or at least a wheel, scares off many casual players who just want to play. In my experience, my friends often say, 'Without a steering wheel, it's not the same,' and because of that, they don't even give the game a chance.

[@xjuliussx]

2015 is not very relevant because the numbers are boosted by the free sells game on steam - i remember because i grab it in 2018 for free!

[@superiorf22raptor]

The f1 24 is the best game in comparison with the previous ones in terms of car control, now you can actually drive that thing, rotate the car, catch a drift and so on. Yes we miss the classic cars (imagine a classic cars race with this kind of control…) and the practice programs may be improved but overall this time they hit it with this game

[@LowtusMob]

Hand it back to either Sumo Digital or Liverpool Studio

[@roberthartley6869]

I bought F1 22 because i was excited about the new car. I instantly saw EA's influence, and it turned me off. Never bought an F1 game after that.

[@patricklampe2840]

Pretty sad how f1 2015 hurt the later games so much.

[@ArtyI]

I wouldn't mind if the iRacing guys took a crack at the F1 license. The W12 and W13 are both an insane amount of fun in sim

[@arkangelgaming35]

Pretty sure they're mods.

[@cap7ainadam387]

@@arkangelgaming35 that's ac, iracing has them officially

[@Jdn19]

@@arkangelgaming35 wrong

[@bsmracing6592]

these connecting to server thing pisses me off

[@jamesj97370]

They needed to add a proper simulation handling option, better damage models, tyre models, car models and better sound!

[@Capitan_77]

My wheel broke and I was in no rush to replace it because the games are shite.

[@15remy]

i hope F1 25 is the last for EA

[@LilRy95]

From the outside looking in, the game has just looked reskinned since F1 2021

[@GPitstra37]

.... F2 2024 update just came out... YOU CAN'T DOWNLOAD RIVAL SETUPS IN TT.. THE F2 CAMERA SETTINGS ARE SCREWED.. AND THE OMBOARD AUDIO OF AT LEAST THE FERRARI (OR WHATEVER CAR YOU DRIVD MOST) IS SET TO CYNAMETIC.. EVEN WHEN YOU ALWAYS HAVE IT BROADCAST... Yes i am typing all caps because fuck all.. EA is making me want to scream at this point.. it's CRAZY... I am not even the only one with these issues.. it's since the F2 2024 update..

[@hugheffo]

Don’t forget that F1 2024 is available on Xbox pass, so won’t show as sales

[@Yogi.700]

It's not Codemasters, it's EA now

[@paulgraham7443]

Add the classic cars back along with the championship modes

[@anthonyhoughton1454]

I actually prefer the F1 2024 Manager game atm to be honest

[@briansergeant]

This isn’t just happening to F1 games, it’s happening across gaming full stop (see Ubisoft and WB games). The economic climate and inflation have played a part but it’s things like: The actual below par game content Putting out umpteen editions of the same game (standard, gold and deluxe) The ridiculous pricing (£79,99 to £129,99 for buggy slop) and community managers who sneer at their own customers when they say the game is rubbish. and the customer is starting to wise up to what these AAA studios have been doing these days and are voting with their wallets.

[@ThePadi94]

This is exactly the same problem as with Madden…

[@HungBQ]

What about NHL, EA FC (FIFA)?

[@CAESER226]

I think that they should Release a new Game everytime there is a big change of Regulations and just Update the Game every couple months. We don’t have to buy a new Game every year, the technical Team can Focus on the new regs and Cars, the Game has a bigger playerbase and they can just Focus on bringing new Content and Features based on out Feedback.

[@AdamEzraOfficial]

Give it to Kunos Studios. We don’t want another Arcade game.

[@cap7ainadam387]

It would actually be cool if beamng took the licence, because even if sponsers dont allow for an insane damage model, the handling and internal damage alone would make it a beautiful experience, it would also be a chance for them to update the aero model and tyre physics

[@kevmscotland]

It's interesting looking back at the F1 2010 developer videos. You got a real sense of passion for replicating the 'authenticity' of the sport. I still miss the "be the driver" aspect of that game and they never evolved on it. The games visually look the best they've ever looked, and I do appreciate they've continued to support the F2 updates. But some of the much more interesting modes have been cut or lost over time. And the things that have replaced them (like point break) feel like superficial additions to appeal to a market that have no interest in the games at all. And I feel like they put a ton of effort into that mode! Wasted effort. They never seem to actually stick with a mode and evolve it - and that's the crux of my problem with them. Hell, they've not even ensured each years game has had the latest track updates in the official calendar. F1 24 is the first Codemaster F1 game I haven't bought. Not even with the 40% sales they've been pushing that just price the game the same as they used to cost on release.

[@geert574]

Kyloton needs that license their rally games were excellent they'll make a nice grippy good sounding car

[@nossy232323]

Yes, please no more Codemasters for the F1 game!!! I have giving up on buying minimally changed versions of the same game for years now. And I will not buy a new one until they use a new engine and make some substantial changes. I am more into simracing now anyways, much better than a Codemasters game.

[@IGG2002]

@@nossy232323 The only note is that Codemasters STOPPED making F1 games since the day the deal with EA was announced.

[@jeffreyhutchins6527]

EA is a bigger problem than Codemasters.

[@evanroccatani5492]

2020 really good. I noticed more power from engine than battery along with everything else. Yet to try older games.

[@alenx5455]

You are completely 100% right and I agree with everything you said.

[@eLDahBi]

F1 deserve to be a simulation game like assetto corsa competizione, And instead of having new game every year, they cold make 1 base game and every year DLC for new season

[@bazzgaming27]

i just wish F1 2010 was still available on Steam to buy. my all time favourite F1 game, and a steam key for F1 2010 are almost £1000.. R.I.P. would love to see F1 2010 come back on steam

[@FortunaMEJG]

Online gaming is what most people want these days. Racing game drivers enjoy online the most and it's what keeps the game alive for an entire year. The devs haven't done anything for the online community since forever. (Well, they added "Leagues", but we can't use it since we can't add penalties etc.) Just let us drive all the tracks backwards and give us loads of classic tracks, old F1 tracks and possible future F1-tracks.

[@thesunnynationg]

it's really peculiar how the timelines match up between EA taking over and the game declining in sales and quality.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@lucasrabelo937]

If they end up losing, I hope that the devloper that gets it isn't directly linked to Sony or Microsoft. That could open a way for them to turn the game into a exclusive for their console like in the 2000s when Sony had them.

[@MisterMonsieur]

*My friend, you have it all wrong. FOM get paid their license fee regardless of sales. EA, however, might drop the franchise if it isn't profitable for them. But FOM are the first to get paid. They don't care one way or the other about the game so long as it isn't embarrassing them. It could go either way.*

[@_YoutubeUser__]

Is the right wheel turning @ about 2:15

[@siloPIRATE]

My experience with the F1 games. Bought 2010, 2011 saw these are the same with some changes so bought every so often. Then EA bought Codemasters and I said nah. Bought 22 and that was it

[@m.r.8903]

I think the problem is that F1 24 has been launched too early in fact as a beta, now the game is much better, probably better than F1 23, but it's too late because steam has been already flooded with bad reviews of the "pre-release"

[@TheGympert]

Codemasters aint the problem but EA is.

[@stevestevenson8899]

Its a shame. EA got their hands on it and drove it into the ground.

[@manawearblack]

Don't think it can be underestimated the effect that boring F1 racing irl and the subsequent fade in fans and viewers is having on the entirety of the sport, not just the game itself. It's boring when one team/one guy wins everything all the time, at least with other sports like FIFA there is multiple leagues in every country, not just the premier league

[@stefanomacchi1977]

You can always took AMS2 with the mods and have a F1 season on the best openwheels simulator.

[@kento6201]

As a controller user, I find these latest games really terrible it's too slow and can't utilize the downforce in the high-speed corners as you can't flick the steering as you have wanted. Whenever I miss playing F1 my go-to games are 2018 and 2020(there's some delay though but not as terrible as the F1 22 and 24)

[@erikzabava937]

F1 2020 ❤❤❤

[@RocketsExternal]

I’m trying to figure out how you enjoyed a game where you were 10 seconds ahead of competition in 4 laps. Albeit Ai, but it’s the exact reason nobody buys the game. It’s boring doing the same thing over and over and over again. Even with new features. It’s boring. Everything feels scripted. It’s a problem in ALL EA titles. It’s why their games suck. Interesting how the game went down after EA bought it. So I don’t understand why people are confused.

[@shadowwsk3507]

I feel like the owners of f1 ip wouldn't even care about the game doing well or not. As long as it doesn't cause a controversy that will affect the image of the brand, they wont do anything about it

[@EnduringPhoen1x]

Having multiple developers taking turns on making a game is definitely not recommended or a good recommendation. I've not heard of a single franchise that pleased their fanbase that way. The only one that's been successful is Call of Duty and they piss off their fans on a much grander scale - but they also cater to a much less niche market. There would either need to be simultaneous game development or - more ideally - a dedicated single developer with maybe smaller side titles that maybe don't have licenses for the teams and drivers but definitely at least can use the generic F1 model vehicle (something like the NFL Blitz games or something of that nature) or maybe even dedicated developers for like F2 or maybe there will be some actual motivation when say a Indycar game comes out.

[@davewhittles]

if they really want a game people want they should have a career that starts you off in karts and you progress through all the lower open wheel series until you get in f1

[@Warrioruk]

As soon as it was announced that EA would be taking over last year there were already people predicting the downfall of the F1 game series, as EA has destroyed every series the were in charge of.

[@Paradyski]

I prefer driving F1 cars in Assetto COrsa

[@riccardoferrero2536]

Imo there should be 2 f1 games: one sim-cade like the current one, and one more simulator, maybe structured like le mans ultimate, I mean, you don't have to buy the game every year but there will be some premium content every season

[@memepatriots]

For me, as someone with limited dexterity and mobility the f1 games require more consistent precision than I can mentally and physically handle 😅 I hit a wall almost every lap or I’m lance stroll levels of slow.