its all fun and games till the player decided to take control
@911PilotIdkRandomName Жыл бұрын
It's all fun and games until Dante royal guards every attack you put angaist him
@mackerasdf13 Жыл бұрын
Kumogawa about to erase Dante's literal conceptual existence Dante: "I'm not gonna sugar coat it" *ROYAL GUARD*
@lastorder2868 Жыл бұрын
he's just posing there, menacingly...
@mackerasdf13 Жыл бұрын
@@lastorder2868 Dante: 🕺
@deathbringer9893 Жыл бұрын
*x factor noises*
@michaelcastro5339 Жыл бұрын
Dante would still be dead Royal Guard or not... it can stop physical attacks and reflect them, but to do that Dante must still exist and erasing him from existence doesn't count as a physical attack.
@User-mx1kq Жыл бұрын
@@michaelcastro5339 catch these ROYAL GUARDs!
@kindasomeviews Жыл бұрын
Dante: " _I'm not gonna sugar coat it_ " *uses Devil Trigger, activates Quicksilver, pistol whips his face before headshotting him with Ebony & Ivory*
@KainSpada09 Жыл бұрын
Nah more like he uses Sin Devil Trigger and uses demolition
@dzunglatherikkasimp Жыл бұрын
ROYAL GUARD
@juanpedrorocha9309 Жыл бұрын
DAAAAMN!
@CopiousStarch Жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna sugarcoat it *O*
@VerbifiedThe3st Жыл бұрын
Kumagawa who just gets rid of his death
@Sonyoucef Жыл бұрын
Crazy how most fodder in dmc have better hax in general
@eliasemanuel408 Жыл бұрын
Ir average demon fodder in dmc has like an entire bible of hax LMFAOOOO
@CourierFreakingSix Жыл бұрын
Demons in videogames are pretty op in general
@icookchildrenandeatthem9085 Жыл бұрын
@@CourierFreakingSix fr
@deadmemes21 Жыл бұрын
_cries in Riot and Nobody_
@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 Жыл бұрын
not really, the info in these tips is CRAZY stupid exaggerated bullshit
@franckhz3262 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how to compare them really. A guy that fought gods beyond comprehension and is able to steal their powers that surpass concepts of existence... Or a guy that Literally cancelled the Season 2 of His anime by removing the concept of colors from the world, thus only being able to experience the rest of the story in manga form... Both things are legendary for entirely different reasons.
@papisus Жыл бұрын
Dante steals that too
@franckhz3262 Жыл бұрын
We can be here all day saying "he steals that" and "he makes it so it never happened", Meta powers like that are weird to have a serious discussion over. But it can be a cool exercise. Stealing the power to make it so something doesn't happen after it was used to make the stealing not happen.
@franckhz3262 Жыл бұрын
@@papisus Kumagawa may lose because he always loses, that's his thing, he has never won even though he's "strong". Which is why this vs is kinda silly.
@Gzdivine Жыл бұрын
All fiction is just reality manipulation it’s not even high tier reality manipulation until he gets now fiction
@franckhz3262 Жыл бұрын
@@Gzdivine Yeah but, you know what I mean. These kind of "high tier low tier" thing its silly considering what the ability does. We can talk about divine authority over reality all we want but they're different universes so its really up to your opinion. Maybe Dante CANT steal All Fiction (and related abilities) because Kumagawa isn't a Demon in the first place, in DMC the minus and plus abnormalities from Medaka box don't exist so we can only infer stuff. Thus why I believe the discussion is silly. And again, Kuamgawa WOULD lose, because that's his entire gimmick as a Joke character.
@ratt__mann9220 Жыл бұрын
Dante is like that one constantly OP character. Remember when Urizen ate the Fruit of the Qliphot...Clipnot? Urizen ate the fruit of the tree of might and Dante just kinda ran his fade. That same fruit made Mundus the demon king, which Dante also beat. Dante doesnt give a damn if you get a Powerup, he'll still run your fade.
@Simply_resharkable Жыл бұрын
That fruit let Mundus casually create an entire universe for fighting Dante in, and Dante beat him at his like, 2nd weakest in the series
@SomeAnomalousJumper2398 Жыл бұрын
*That can be arranged...*
@Some.gamer116 Жыл бұрын
Didn't stop Vergil from also running his fade
@Simply_resharkable Жыл бұрын
@@Some.gamer116 Vergil and Dante are canonically equals
@renz4369 Жыл бұрын
@@Some.gamer116 vergil has never run his fade bruh, if anything dante has only lost to vergil once in dmc3 and dante has beaten vergil over and over again
@spoonge6682 Жыл бұрын
Something that wasn’t mentioned about Nightmare was that it was a biological weapon created by Mundus that had the POTENTIAL to consume the demon world, however in fear of it’s potential power and it betraying it’s creator Mundus put a lock on it’s potential to prevent it from being capable of turning against Mundus. Something else to note is though gameplay isn’t entirely accurate to scaling Dante is likely capable of tanking the Judgement Cut End from Vergil even without his Royal Guard style, which is capable of blocking just about anything.
@Kira22558 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@CeeDoubleU Жыл бұрын
Destroy not consume
@lichlichh Жыл бұрын
No no, its destroying the demon world. Consume it/ cover it up is something he does
@absolstoryoffiction6615 Жыл бұрын
Gameplay isn't 100% true to lore.
@spoonge6682 Жыл бұрын
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 I know, that’s why I said it’s not entirely accurate. But the rebellion could resist the Yamato, so I don’t see why Dante after he absorbed it couldn’t.
@alfshigechi5518 Жыл бұрын
Power scalers be like: YOO THE FIGHT BETWEEN (*overpowered reality warping 12d boundless character*) vs (*overpowered reality warping 12d boundless character*) Bout to be legendary!
@PyroniumZ Жыл бұрын
Or a hell because thats usually how most discussions end up as. Depends on the characters tho
@ctoooc Жыл бұрын
DMC is cool tho
@absolstoryoffiction6615 Жыл бұрын
But one character is forever prone to lose no matter what... Literally. That's how this character is, in the anime.
@StardustSpiritDragon Жыл бұрын
Powerscalers be like: YOU SEE DANTE GOT COCK SUCKED BY LADY WHICH 79+÷ DIMESIONAL ABILITYS COMBING THE FACT HE CLAPPED LADY CHEEKS GIVE MORE POWER UP IN HIS BASE FORM BUT DANTE IS BEING DANTE SO OVERALL HE WILL GO BEYOND DEVIL TRIGGER BEAT THAT BRAT WITH HIS FIT NO CAP ALL FACTS 🗣🗣🔊🔊🔊💯💯💯💶💶🔥🔥🔥🔥
@somebodyoncetoldme11416 ай бұрын
@@ctooocCool without powerscaling
@The-E-king Жыл бұрын
Imagine being so strong and fast you can beat someone who's power is literally just nuh huh.
@snowpegasi Жыл бұрын
The legendary yuh huh
@yaboigamerdouji7573 Жыл бұрын
Dante is just that guy. Bro can go toe to toe with some of the most busted entities and win. He made Argosax look bitch made and beat the breaks off Mundus, who’s essentially a demon god on crack. While I don’t think he could perma-kill Kumagawa, he’s definitely taking the absolute W due to the fact that he’s got the skill to match whatever Kumagawa has cause Dante’s already seen it, faced it, and beat it with nothing but his own sword and pistols
@dracospikex2678 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Dante has ever been erased from his universe before but dante is 1000 percent still a badass lol
@yaboigamerdouji7573 Жыл бұрын
@@dracospikex2678 You cannot erase a pure badass. It’s just not possible
@dracospikex2678 Жыл бұрын
@@yaboigamerdouji7573 true lol
@Axlrazer Жыл бұрын
@@yaboigamerdouji7573 Yeah thats why kratos, vergil, doom slayer and asura can't die or stay dead
@VerbifiedThe3st Жыл бұрын
I don't think he would win just because kumagawa is petty enough to take everything from Dante even at his own expense. Dude would erase fingers just so he couldn't use his guns.
@Swazder Жыл бұрын
Kumagawa: I'll use [All-fiction] to erase you Dante: Down d-pad + circle
@dewaralsan5844 Жыл бұрын
Dante: Give it up!
@loung8640 Жыл бұрын
The worse part it is, kumagawa can't do that
@DeadSpaceWing6 ай бұрын
"Man, I'm bored."
@RuneKatashima6 ай бұрын
Kumagawa can just state that using Royal Guard kills the user. And then it happens.
@AngelosDeNotitia5 ай бұрын
@@RuneKatashima Royal Guard the statement and royal guard the killing
@purplehaze4942 Жыл бұрын
"they look at me like a toaster, cuz they only come when the bread is up"
@limptoast Жыл бұрын
God damn it 16
@breadbucket66 Жыл бұрын
what the fuck did gero put in 16 this time 😭😭
@missyummy1040 Жыл бұрын
Sounds fair, though I do think Book Maker would work on Dante, since it worked on Ajimu, but i could see Dante avoiding it and killing Kumagawa before given the chance
@1dfr33 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't it equalize them? And then it's based on combat skill and pain tolerance? If that being the case he's not outlasting Dante on either.
@missyummy1040 Жыл бұрын
@@1dfr33 I think they're equal in terms of pain tolerance, but yeah I agree, but also consider that Kumagawa will have all of his ability while Dante will be left with equal level of speed, strength, intellect, etc
@aziatouchsilent8507 Жыл бұрын
@@1dfr33 the point of bookmaker is to beat them in willpower
@midnight-envy Жыл бұрын
@@aziatouchsilent8507 even that Dante still wins
@aziatouchsilent8507 Жыл бұрын
@why exist thats the entire point of bookmaker… to make it so that youd have the same willpower as him
@thesoldiertf2774 Жыл бұрын
"oh you can erase existence itself?" "royal guard."
@nigersaurus057 ай бұрын
Not even gonna sugar coat it: ROYAL GUARD
@DeadSpaceWing6 ай бұрын
Imagine the power behind the Royal Release afterwards. Bro stands no chance.
@adhipanb.iniyan50745 ай бұрын
Dante beat something that can erase the existence of an infinite ever expanding dimension/universe, in his weakest form
@j1i6885 ай бұрын
@@adhipanb.iniyan5074 "Royal Guard" -Dante
@DenisK21 Жыл бұрын
"Can he win" is always a trick question with Kumagawa Misogi.
@maxiarg7412 Жыл бұрын
I mean if he does not lose is he even Kumagawa? Lol
@wander1139 Жыл бұрын
@@maxiarg7412 i mean he can kill dante and still loose that's his trick
@maxiarg7412 Жыл бұрын
@@wander1139 Thats why i love my boy Kumagawa as much of an edgelord as he is lol
@exodiashallrain9976 Жыл бұрын
not if your name is dante sparda
@Dark139hunter Жыл бұрын
@@exodiashallrain9976whar
@fishlaurence-burne7450 Жыл бұрын
"Dante can steal the concept of demons" is that how he keeps getting new weapons from demons he defeats?
@Spider-MansAutisticArc Жыл бұрын
Bro that’s rad af
@TheAceofSpades-tk1rt11 ай бұрын
Technically, he’s not stealing the concept of demons. The demons he defeat willing give up their power and turn into devil arms for Dante to use
@insertedgynamehere___9696 ай бұрын
No. He takes their soul and their soul turns into the weapon
@johnwalsh33964 ай бұрын
@@TheAceofSpades-tk1rtyour right and wrong because that can chose to become his weapon as seen with old Cerberus or he can beat them until he can force them into becoming a weapon as seen with new Cerberus.
@SlametSudarmanto-h4k9 ай бұрын
Other character: "My ability can kill you in the blink of an eye and can even destroy the multiverse." Dante: "ROYAL GUARD"
@JackgarPrime4 ай бұрын
It's like that super saiyan 3 meme: "Nice elaborate, OP, metafictional hax ability you got there, dipshit. Now check this out:" and then he busts out TRICKSWORDTRICKSWORD combos
@DifféranceHorizon Жыл бұрын
As someone who knows the characters from both verse's very well I agree with this video, Dante's Sparda physiology grants him every resistance he'd need to go blow for blow and kill for kill with Kumagawa however while I do think Dante wins I don't see how Dante manages to permanently kill Kumagawa he has no way to bypass AF's auto resurrection but that's an argument for another video.
@papisus Жыл бұрын
Look at this way if I steal ur ability can u use it.rember Dante can erase him and his powers or just steal it and it's raps so he doesn't stand an Chance he just fodder compared to Dante.
@DifféranceHorizon Жыл бұрын
@@papisus What? Stealing his ability? Kumagawa's AF can't be taken as shown when Ajimu took it to give him back bookmaker he still had access to everything that he erased like his presence and also his immortality💀bro has NOT read Medaka Box clearly and before you try and take this out of context no I'm not saying Kumagawa beats Dante but Dante doesn't just neg him in negative seconds or smth
@sharkplay1261 Жыл бұрын
@KJ yeah but being able to destroy stuff beyond concepts would allow Dante to destroy his ability
@DifféranceHorizon Жыл бұрын
@@sharkplay1261 Debatable tbh, AF is above concepts to begin with and like I said Kumagawa completely had his ability stripped away by the very person who gave it to him yet all the important parts of AF stayed with him. That's not to mention at the end of the manga everyone's abilities are gone when they grow up almost as if they never had any abilities to begin with, (including Medaka herself) yet despite that it was heavily implied if not basically outright stated that Kumagawa & Ajimu were the only people with abilities left in the series.
@sharkplay1261 Жыл бұрын
@@DifféranceHorizon fair enough
@stormblade7959 Жыл бұрын
If only Medaka box characters had the AP to match their hax
@iamlaw8848 Жыл бұрын
ikr
@ericthemadscientist8357 Жыл бұрын
or speed
@RudeusFM Жыл бұрын
That's just shinza banshou characters
@pablotomasllodra4423 Жыл бұрын
Dante: “You’ve got rizz, kid. But you still cannot beat The Guy *does some flamboyant pose* in Style.”
@1toolaj Жыл бұрын
Kumagawa doesn't have any hax related to his own soul, so thats an advantage over kumagawa
@ZetroFox9274 Жыл бұрын
Could he just make it so his soul is impenetrable? Like just say it's impossible to destroy my soul or body.
@גוגויחזור Жыл бұрын
Los personajes de medaka box no tienen Alma.
@vegetacultminorityhunter Жыл бұрын
@@ZetroFox9274 that would be a burden of proof fallacy
@absolstoryoffiction6615 Жыл бұрын
@@ZetroFox9274 No... Reality warping ain't saving his soul in that manner. Trust me... All Fiction is a toy for entities of higher dimensions.
@dante1631 Жыл бұрын
@@vegetacultminorityhunter this is not the burden if proof fallacy😭
@NahIdSword Жыл бұрын
1 more thing. dantes royal guard can absorb anything with less demon power than him and then sends it back with double the force. kumagawa doesnt have demonic power so dante automatically cant be hurt just bcz of that. that is also why most other verses cant do shit agains dante and vergil (vergil can cut anything with less demonic power than himself, that includes concepts, time/space etc).
@calebterry8747 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t kumagawa just make himself a demon to hit Dante?
@NahIdSword Жыл бұрын
@@calebterry8747 as long as hes not trying to copy dante since he can resist that if i remember correctly but otherwise yes, he could do that although the vid shows more reasons why dante can just counter him so i still think dante wins
@calebterry8747 Жыл бұрын
@@NahIdSword Ig. I only know about Dante. I haven’t even seen the other show. I just know they mention him a lot when comes to broken characters
@c3rberus04 Жыл бұрын
But couldn't kumagawa kill dantes mother so he's never borne?
@NahIdSword Жыл бұрын
@@c3rberus04 if i understood correctly from the vid, dante can resist that but if im wrong then yes, dante would cease to exist.
@morrisl1239 ай бұрын
As someone who is WAY more familiar with DMC and Dante than Medaka Box and Kumogawa, I’m just here to see which would come out on top: Wacky-woohoo- pizza Man or *_“NO”_*
@sonario0074 Жыл бұрын
Even if it is just gameplay, royal guard blocks everything you could throw at it. However, if we try to view it from a lore perspective, I‘d guess that it doesn’t completely negate anything but rather reduces the effect so much that it’s barely noticeable. Just a small thought I had.
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec2 ай бұрын
I mean Dante did got one shot by Urizen the first time.
@lordquastheonly Жыл бұрын
The people who think medaka box characters and fate characters are unbeatable need to diversify their media consumption
@adiabdul2502 Жыл бұрын
Toxic be like: Nasuverse solo fiction
@loomingzenith9279 Жыл бұрын
@@adiabdul2502 Nameless Ekmek be like
@dippyfresh5784 Жыл бұрын
@dante Not really, the only one that could is Shiki Ryougi since she is an outerversal smurf due to her connection to the Swirl of the Root. Most servants max out at 6d-8d depending on how you want to scale. The exception to this rule are the Foreigners who can scale to 9d due to them being higher in dimensionality than even those who scale to 8d. Now you could try to argue 9d servants and 10d outergods but the argument isn't nearly as good as 6d-8d.
@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ Жыл бұрын
@@dippyfresh5784and emperor slash
@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ Жыл бұрын
There are few characters that are unbeatable easily from nasuverse such as the emperor slash for example, but the normal fate character aren't even close to be unbeatable and those exceptions of the characters I mentioned aren't many AND they have appeared once or twice and then disappeared after a single attack.
@iamlaw8848 Жыл бұрын
As a Medaka box fan regards of what the out come of the battle was I'm just glad to see Medaka box talk about more. Would love see more of your Medaka box content in the future. Also who do you think would win IIhiko Shishime vs SCP 682
@leoshi8453 Жыл бұрын
682 practically no diffs
@iamlaw8848 Жыл бұрын
@@leoshi8453 Personally I think IIhiko wins
@leoshi8453 Жыл бұрын
The problem is 682 by default is universal no composite as in canon if he dies, true universe implodes and all life cease to exist. If u include composite 682, which includes the Leviathan, he is easily hyperversal, and can be wanked to outer with some slight eyeball squinting
@iamlaw8848 Жыл бұрын
@@leoshi8453 Honestly I kinda just hate SCP 682 and think its over wanked
@glizzynator5258 Жыл бұрын
@@iamlaw8848 they don't even follow their own rules. It's a fucking joke.
@UnwantedGhost1 Жыл бұрын
You're much better and on point than Seth the Programmer. Hope you reach a million subscribers before him.
@purplehaze4942 Жыл бұрын
seth speedran vegito and goku scaling while being accurate 💀
@animemaster4412 Жыл бұрын
Bro leave Seth alone💀
@datdollar Жыл бұрын
@@animemaster4412He needa leave them kids alone
@purplehaze4942 Жыл бұрын
@@datdollar its like every accusation. made with malicious intent no matter how you slice it. its not meant to expose seth, but to tear em down. the minor wasnt even a minor then lmao
@datdollar Жыл бұрын
@@purplehaze4942 Even if said accusation was made with malicious intent but there is some form of evidence and the defendant (Seth) farther incriminates himself by acknowledging/admitting to most of these accusations in the Keemstar stream and passes it as non-malicious trolling would simply not be overlooked in the court of law just cause someone has malicious intent. About the last thing her age could be 15-17 but Seth did acknowledge that she was a minor at the time while making fun of her for laughs on the stream. And with the multitude of other shady shit Seth did (Evidence) Regardless of "malicious intent" he simply doesn't scale to the accusations
@ChampionAnalysis Жыл бұрын
Would Dante's ability to yoink the very concepts from demons apply to anything in existence? I wasn't aware of this ability until it was mentioned in the video. If it does, then I think it's a definitive win for our boy. I came to this video skeptical as hell and then ya dropped that tidbit and I was stunned.
@insertedgynamehere___9696 ай бұрын
I think that's what he unlocked in dmc5: when he fused with rebellion and Sparda into himself
@boifixed Жыл бұрын
All DMC fans, rise up and agree that Royalguard solos ANYTHING.
@houragents5490Ай бұрын
Royalcope
@CopyCat_2009 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to take a second to show dantes true speed. It's touched on a lot in this video but doesn't quite say how fast dante is exactly. So, one of dantes styles "quicksilver" allows him not to slow down time but to move so quickly that everything around him looks slowed down. However this is only about half of his max speed when you bring in the demon sword alastor from dmc 1 which allowed dante to move at "lightning fast speeds" and through some math that I refuse to explain, dantes max speed is 20,250,000 miles per SECOND. aka he can run around the entire planted 7 times in one second. (I'm such a dmc nerd lmao)
@absolstoryoffiction6615 Жыл бұрын
Vergil is only faster in comparison to Danta.
@The-Beyonder Жыл бұрын
This isn't even anywhere close to how fast Dante is. He has immeasurable speed feats in PoC and DMC5. He's dogwalking
@absolstoryoffiction6615 Жыл бұрын
@@The-Beyonder (Fun Fact: DMC demons are fueled by human blood. And you know what Dante is? Half Human, so good luck for Kumagawa to even out last Dante with AF's Resurrection.) In DMC2 vs Argosax. The book explains that Argosax's sword attacks are at omnidirectional speeds. So Dante's speed is actually broken fast during his lesser emotional state during DMC2. Plus Majin Devil Trigger, so imagine MDT in DMC5 after the Shin (True) Devil Trigger upgrade. And Dreadnought Form from Royal Guard in DMC4 should Dante really need to juice up his defences on top of DT etc. The issue with Kumagawa is that he only has All Fiction and Book Maker. Of which, DMC Demons in base form have a nack of being immune or hyper resilient to both Book Maker and some things All Fiction can do. Given Mundus. Plus, Kumagawa is still human through and through, unlike Medaka herself who might as well be the omnipotent God of their universe. Kumagawa is not a fighter by heart or by choice, and moves as slow as any human with the same vulnerabilities as any human. Plus... All Fiction's auto resurrection is not really a W for Kumagawa. Since (1) he'll still feel pain and (2) it's not the best resurrection type since it brings you back on the spot where you died. And Dante can just use a Devil Arm from a Death Demon to negate it or forge a new Devil Arm just like Sparda did with his three swords.
@The-Beyonder Жыл бұрын
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 wasn't talking so much about the vs itself, but if Kumagawa doesn't have 9D-11D hax and resistance then he's dying lol. Dante has killed multiple reality controlling and immortal beings (Argosax, Void Mundus, Chen etc.)
@vegetacultminorityhunter Жыл бұрын
Crazy how this popped up in *my recommended right now my brother was just talking about how kumagawa solos fiction 💀
@landchannel7688 Жыл бұрын
At this point I actually believe your phone is listening
@vegetacultminorityhunter Жыл бұрын
@@landchannel7688 fr
@pizzaforever697 ай бұрын
Your phone had enough.
@COURIERTHEPSYKER Жыл бұрын
People forget Dante such a rad dude Kumagawa probably find meaning to life.
@IRLsukuna Жыл бұрын
Dante would slap kratos n say "BOY GO SIT DOWN!"
@Xero-rr2ol Жыл бұрын
Yup.
@Danthelegend288 Жыл бұрын
Fax 🚬🗿
@fire3769 Жыл бұрын
Kratos is high outversal by lore
@LemoneMan Жыл бұрын
@@fire3769 that doesn't sound right mainly because xeno goku is high outer and he absouletely wipes the floor with kratos.
@glizzynator5258 Жыл бұрын
@@fire3769 at no point is kratos high outer
@rcqr4148 Жыл бұрын
Universe blows up Dante: ROYAL GUARD proceeds to do a 16 minute combo using every attack and weapon
@Michael-hj7vj Жыл бұрын
I remember reading a Persona fanfiction (really good btw, "Persona 3: Remix", check it out) In there Dante was a Social Link, and one of the rank up's sounded like this: "… Is this the part where I cackle like an idiot and reveal my great plans for world domination?" Minato asked. "… I get the feeling we wouldn't be able to just sit here and have a nice chat if ya did," Dante said. He sighed. "Honestly, I've been around enough to see some weird shit and know that if somebody's really been cooking something bad, then there'll be trouble even if they screw it all up. There's no point in showing up early to stop things from getting bad… what's important is being able to do something once the real trouble starts. That's my entire job." "Oh… seems counterproductive," Minato said. "What if you end up facing off with something completely out of your league?" "Heh… and what makes you think you know my league?" Dante asked. For a split second, Minato felt as if the entire world seemed to quake as Dante turned to him. His eyes widened as even a few of his Fiends seemed to recoil at the sudden show of power. "I let Vergil hold onto the Force Edge so he won't complain all the time… but even without it, I'm more than enough for any God, Demon, Angel, or whatever thinks it can come my way." A series of alarms went off in the distance as the world seemingly returned to normal, and Dante sighed. "Right… forgot about those damn things." It helped me get things into perspective and after that I read up on the SMT and DMC lore I realized how STUPID POWERFUL Dante is. Like I truly dont care how ridiculous (and neither does Dante) the "All Creation" is, if Dante gets serious Kumagawa is getting bodied.
@omnibeta18765 ай бұрын
You just made me remember that Dante IS canon in the SMT multiverse so he could technically also be canon in the Persona section of that multiverse
@mddavids8778 Жыл бұрын
As a DMc fan I'ma be honest that all fiction negate is really good, but if he didn't have it I will say it would be much harder then this,also great video and very accurate scalling Edit: also killing things beyond life and death is another big factor ,but glad to see Dante getting the respect he deserves, respect to kumegawa though
@absolstoryoffiction6615 Жыл бұрын
Oddly enough... All Fiction is something Devil Arms can design. I don't know why but when you have Sparda and Mundus crafting things beyond their dimensions. This was always a one sided battle. But that is what happens when its near omnipotence.
@pizzaforever697 ай бұрын
People who only played DMC 5 considered him even below town level. What they don't realize is he got nerfed heavily after dmc 1 and 2 .
@mddavids87787 ай бұрын
@@pizzaforever69 Bro how do people even have the thought that Dante's only town level 💀 HIS DIGESTIVE TRACK IS ALREADY UNIVERSAL FROM THE AMOUNT OF STRAIGHT GARBAGE DANTE EATS EVERY DAY
@GoodBanana0017 ай бұрын
So in short an stupidly insanely powerful character vs another stupidly insanely powerful character
@TheCodedDragon Жыл бұрын
It's a funny image to think about Dante just Royal guarding anything that remotely enters his parry range XD
@Paradox-es3bl Жыл бұрын
Man, Medaka vs Saber might actually be good considering how ridiculous Saber actually gets if you analyze the entire series. She's one of the strongest characters, easily outclassing several Gods and concepts and stuff, I think lol. If Medaka can beat her, I'm impressed.
@absolstoryoffiction6615 Жыл бұрын
(Edit: I had the wrong Medaka Box character but yeah. Medaka herself Vs Saber would be interesting.) Medaka has a Hax which let's her become more powerful than her opponent... It's just one Hax out of one billion. She's better off against Void Shiki in the Nasuverse since Madaka is omnipotent in her Verse with her 1 billion hacks.
@ADDISON63687 ай бұрын
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 nah void shiki is overkilll medaka box the most hax ablitys but even all fiction cant do anything to void shiki or anyone with swirl of the root nasueverse is medaka box on streuds and drugs.... just on another level if thought all fiction was broken void shiki do that and more.. in fact void shiki is highest level of 1a in fact only way beat her is need high 1a+ and even that be bs because in some wayss get scaling to boundless with wank.. but at min still high 1a min to beat void shiki swirl of the root is the strongest 1a and again only someone high 1a could do something and for all know they get stronger from that so sadly no medaka box hax is outdone vy having swirl of the root anything that even her verse alone has Nasuverse has it and more... its every ablity that can think.. that more billions that point blank infinite they legit have every single ablityy that can you think cant so her having 1 billion wont matter since again void shiki has swirl of the root which has all power of Nasuverse and Nasuverse has every single power can think of yes including ofc plot etc all fiction yep there being who something just like all fiction... oh but just fiction yep... so no saber and medaka bit much more fair then voiud shiki as that be a stomp but saber still win.. because her hax outsclaes medaka
@absolstoryoffiction66157 ай бұрын
@@ADDISON6368 True
@Yugure-711 Жыл бұрын
my man dante royal guarding his fate i swear
@Vergilswordboi Жыл бұрын
This party's getting crazy let's rock-Dante before hitting him with the dual chainsaws and rebellion while switching styles
@DakimakuraThief Жыл бұрын
Everybody Gangsta until he says TRICKSWORDGUNROYALSWORDGUNTRICKERROYAL
@j3rravgfurry378 Жыл бұрын
The fact dante can negate concepts like it’s nothing is crazy bruh and man I can tell ya he’s busted as hell 💀💀
@georgegobin1839 Жыл бұрын
Holy Crap I Know Dante Was Op But Not This Op!😳
@illumialter8755 Жыл бұрын
sorry to break it to you, bud but... They were lying to you. Dante isn't that op and they are lowkey Dante dickriders
@mgrdmcfansthatdontplaytheg781 Жыл бұрын
@@illumialter8755 They won't hear your cries unfortunately.
@bigboi5507 Жыл бұрын
@@illumialter8755nah you’re just lying to yourself The things he can do is insane
@mthedarkness3383 Жыл бұрын
@@illumialter8755 Funny how you say that without showing any evidence.
@verygeneric7065 Жыл бұрын
@@illumialter8755 Their words are more credible than yours
@Pr1ncet0n Жыл бұрын
this is an insane setup
@socialbreak8620 Жыл бұрын
Me not seeing low ball low outerversal Dante with irrelevant speed and how the kumagawa is bound by dimensionality, not even joking as Chen outright stated that he transcended all realities along with spatial dimensions and so on.
@please_be_an_operator_soon Жыл бұрын
Overkill. Equal cosmology also slams. 🗿
@Seelecrose Жыл бұрын
@@please_be_an_operator_soon Kumagawa vs the weakest demonic monkey (DMC2 Msiras)
@please_be_an_operator_soon Жыл бұрын
@@Seelecrose Msira stomps. 🐿
@DemonHasWept Жыл бұрын
Dante is my favourite character in fiction, but I don't understand how he's Outerversal. I thought he would be like Hyperversal or something.
@socialbreak8620 Жыл бұрын
@@DemonHasWept Canon crossovers, Chen, names, Archetypes, and what not.
@lanieldelpratt3263 Жыл бұрын
Dante beats kumogawa : new weapon unlocked screws...
@superthanatos00 Жыл бұрын
It looks like in the world of Medaka's box, there is no limit to any ability. If Kumagawa didn't need any kind of energy to use his ability or any compensation then other people can also do it with their ability. But Kumagawa is the only one who is mostly fine no matter how much he used his ability. So he is actually the true God of that verse? Erasing the concept of using energy should be a global thing or else the energy is being compensated by something for him only. Which is returning to the problem, where is his ability getting the power from?
@absolstoryoffiction6615 Жыл бұрын
All Fiction isn't omnipotent. That much is for certain in lore.
@MrCraftyScales Жыл бұрын
Bro what a way to wake up, thxs for having me
@nostalgianetwork1225 Жыл бұрын
Medaka Box deserve more love
@Red_Dead_Decepticon Жыл бұрын
Nah
@nigelxd3735 Жыл бұрын
Wonder what Devil arm Dante would get for killing him, like I know he isn't a demon so he wouldn't turn into a devil arm, but I'm just curious
@absolstoryoffiction6615 Жыл бұрын
With demonic energy. The soul is the key...
@TheDangerNoodle Жыл бұрын
Dante was so much faster than the Furies in DMC5 that it *scared* them.
@lus4305 Жыл бұрын
Do you realize that how Dante can erase or ignore concepts, Kumagawa can too? All fiction works both for casuality and conceptual erasure, for example deleting colors is an example of conceptual erasure. This battle is quite literally both being "I'm infinite strong", "and I'm infinite +1 strong" which doesn't really make any sense. Then both could just say "I erase/ignore your abilities" How their abilities collide is also all very "theorized" and not backed up in any consistent way Ultimately Kumagawa will lose because he's a born loser and that's his theme in the story, but trying to prove that Dante can 1 vs 1 Kumagawa is dumb
@Jayglah7 ай бұрын
I know people keep mentioning*"ROYAL GUARD!"* but Dante literally has beyond infinite speed, before kumagawa can even think of "erasing" something, he's already a stain on the floor. And then Dante process to bust a move...
@Fellow_internet_surfer.08 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me who remembers that Dante can move millions beyond lightspeed in is base form.oh pardon me I meant trillions
@AveragePuroEnjoyer7 ай бұрын
Goku glazers when Dante comes at him with that royal guard
@weskintime4177 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t Dante scale to like 9D with 11D Soul Hax stuff? This is before seeing the Dante part of the video.
@glizzynator5258 Жыл бұрын
9D yes. No clue on 11D.
@fackyoutube8452 Жыл бұрын
Dante also has fear hax so that defeats most opponents on its own
@speeddemon144p Жыл бұрын
Souls are 9D, but DMC5 Dante scales to 10D via scaling to the Qlipoth tree.
@sypher3492 Жыл бұрын
@@dante886.in the closed beta it doesn’t, because the blood feast event has yet to be added to the closed beta so respectively wait till the full release of the game before spreading false info.
@justlike_09 Жыл бұрын
@sypher3492 poc isn't fully released? And what's the problem with it explain it to me so I can understand
@coma2726 Жыл бұрын
What happens to dante if kumagawa removes the concept of demons and devils? Does dante just stop existing or does is human half keep him alive somehow or does something else happen?
@Emperor_Redgrave Жыл бұрын
Well considering Dante hd resistances to conceptual manip and existence erasure it really wouldn’t do much. Also demons tend to be different depending on the verse you are in and considering demons in DMC exist completely outside of human concepts and laws it wouldn’t really affect Dante
@c3rberus04 Жыл бұрын
@@Emperor_Redgrave interesting how you bring that up dante cant be erased from existence but what about his mother
@Emperor_Redgrave Жыл бұрын
@@c3rberus04 Dante has acausality so changing the past won’t affect him, demons and hybrid demons aren’t bound by the laws and concepts of the human world, but by the laws of the demon world
@MrCraftyScales Жыл бұрын
It won't effect him as he resist it, and fun fact demons can continue to regenerate and fight even if you remove their soul body and concept as long as they pursue the fight
@Hero_Of_Time94 Жыл бұрын
@@c3rberus04Dante is separate from casualty, if the kirito wannabe went to the past and killed Eva a million times over Dante would still be there.
@khanghua966 Жыл бұрын
I think the most unreal thing when people bring up in deathmatchs is nobody say a thing if the universes of these characters just collapsed and form up into a new universe or some of the character universal laws don’t effect on the other character universal law But i think dante still win in the end cuz he just gonna oneshot the other character
@davidarvingumazon5024 Жыл бұрын
Ikr
@xemnadicaxolando22176 ай бұрын
Kumagawa's original Minus was Bookmaker that due to how kanji works it can be read as thousand gauntlets, it's the screws that have the power to bring anyone they hit down to his level so it negates powers and stats. Anshin gave him a Plus ability that undid mistakes, but Kumagawa was so negative it evolved into a Minus knownd as All Ficiton (that can be read as Lying devil) that is the power "make things into lies" and effectively erase things from existence. Though it's closer to GE requiem than outright disintegration
@KiSTekken Жыл бұрын
Kumagawa actually meeting his match? Ngl after reading the manga i thought dude was basically invincible in vs MU'S. Guess not 😅
@Random_video_foryou Жыл бұрын
There are like millions of characters who are stronger and have better had than him.
@Hero_Of_Time94 Жыл бұрын
Despite how these Kumagawa fans hype their character up he is still no match for Dante. The things this Kumagawa kirito wannabe guy has done Dante has already basically shrugged off before.
@jojonta2119 Жыл бұрын
@@Hero_Of_Time94Never compare kumagawa to that lame ass generic cardboard ass nigga ever again
@pingspoofer832 Жыл бұрын
@@Hero_Of_Time94 bro most kumagawa fans dont even read the manga and are anitok bandwagoners
@fandango_boi Жыл бұрын
I'll just set here that Dante and Vergil share THE SAME powers. They are literally Twins that far. Just look: Dante got Time Stop and Doubleganger in DMC3(and that's a prequel to the whole series)-Vergil has Time Stop and Doubleganger in DMC5. And I can keep it all day, but that's already enough. To answer why they never used same kit: They are Drip Gods that like to Rizz on Style rather than just mindlessly use whatever they get their hands on. SO in this case, fighting mf with so much OP power... All they need is to convince that MF that he is Depressed asf and must KHS, *NOW!* That'll work for sure. Now make him and Saitama. *Now* _I know where you live_
@redomerveil799 Жыл бұрын
Bro forgetting players, who just casually no hits every enemy in the game🗿
@JackgarPrime4 ай бұрын
Dante's ultimate power isn't from scaling or new forms, it's from being played by SunhiLegend
@Shroobi Жыл бұрын
bro legit can't stop spitting fax
@Tuummler Жыл бұрын
i don't know if this applies and i may also be remembering wrong but in Medaka box isn't there like a thing about heroes and villains or negatives and positives in terms of the characters? like Kumagawa is a negative or whatever he is or embodies negativity and thus because of his universes rules can never win a fight no matter what. i can't remmeber if he has every won or lost a fight inherently because it's been a long time since Medaka box for me and this could all be stuff i made up in my head because i just forgot but i'm pretty sure that's a thing.
@DenisK21 Жыл бұрын
In Kumagawa's Misogi's case, he is incapable of believing he can win, and he doesn't want to win the way winning is usually defined anyway. Prevailing over an opponent with his superpowers, or by just being stronger or smarter than them... just isn't good enough. He HAS to win by being weak and powerless, or else there's just no point. And since those kinds of "wins" just don't exist by definition, he instead devotes everything he has to losing on his own terms, even though he knows that won't satisfy him either. That's why "who will win" is always a trick question when he's involved.
@rationeextrema3776 Жыл бұрын
@@DenisK21 That's true. Although, he did improve on this at the end of the story. Especially after Ajimu destroyed the star that he blamed for all of his misfortune.
@Freaky-Raine Жыл бұрын
@@DenisK21 So only a negative can defeat another negative?
@Freaky-Raine Жыл бұрын
@@DenisK21 Because that means he's un killable? Like a person who is more power defeats him but not kill him?
@DenisK21 Жыл бұрын
@@Freaky-Raine "Negative against negative" is sort of on the right track. He always loses no matter who his opponent is, but the first defeat that actually meant something and started changing him was at the hands of someone who had been made the same kind of "can never win" person as himself. Another way to counter him is to "arm yourself with weak points". He's usually merciless in targeting the weak points of an opponent, but intentionally giving him a weak point to exploit tends to make him lose his motivation (or, well, what little of it he has, anyway).
@officialamatsu Жыл бұрын
Yo where did you get the info on Sparda? Ngl that seems like you made it up
@starhalv2427 Жыл бұрын
So basically, either Dante is immune to whatever Kumagawa does and steals "All fiction", or Kumagawa changes all of Dante's powers and abilities into fiction by bringing Dante down to his own level.
@OmonaEmanon Жыл бұрын
Kumagawa can just say that you can't steal his power
@albertoluis1544 Жыл бұрын
0:10 Be like when you hear normal human speaking in Sakisaka Fuminori PoV(Saya no Uta)
@Novissime.Desideriis Жыл бұрын
I do habe questionable scaling from crafty but i genuinely agree with this video over all
@MrCraftyScales Жыл бұрын
What's ur question
@Novissime.Desideriis Жыл бұрын
@@MrCraftyScales ah nvm
@MrCraftyScales Жыл бұрын
@@Novissime.Desideriis ok
@Novissime.Desideriis Жыл бұрын
@@MrCraftyScales I figured out with my cousins help
@MrCraftyScales Жыл бұрын
@@Novissime.Desideriis Ard
@lalabaluza1194 Жыл бұрын
How does Dante denying fate manipulation gonna help him from Kumagawa erasing his existence? He can just make all of Dante's arsenal dissapear and make Dante dissapear
@artofduality5046 Жыл бұрын
I honestly feel like Archie Sonic is Dante’s only worthy opponent at this point
@lakithchandra8901 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@virnim Жыл бұрын
can he beat John Egbert tho?
@inkbagz3455 Жыл бұрын
Oh fuck never heard of this argument before
@pforgottonsoul Жыл бұрын
the thing with kumagawa is that he can just outright erase entire concepts and there's not much of a counter for that.
@myusername3689 Жыл бұрын
So Kumagawa is kinda like Zatanna from DC
@Red_Dead_Decepticon Жыл бұрын
Yeah but Weaker
@myusername3689 Жыл бұрын
@@Red_Dead_Decepticon yeah nerfed walmart version
@Augustus_jonas_gamin Жыл бұрын
dante would casually royal guard his existence removal let's be honest
@satouanimation Жыл бұрын
Lmao they trying to push it against Dante again they will end up eating pizza while Dante combo them 💀 rip to those
@ncruz591 Жыл бұрын
I’m assuming Kumagawas abilities only work in his manga if he were to be pulled out would they not work anymore? Being that the writer grants him this ability if he went into someone else’s world would it not shut off
@NeoSonic64 Жыл бұрын
I know this is been here for a while but that always been a question of mine. Like most people kinda say "Yeah, they still have their abilities and powers when going to another verse" But I've seen anime/cartoon do this idea and it's always either/or. So it's mainly up to the writer. For me, I always go with a kinda? Like the whoever is writing it is the one to make the rules for it a that time.
@ichizukinegs Жыл бұрын
I would like to bring up a few things that you missed for Kumagawa since it changes a few things. Kumagawa blitzed an exact clone of Ajimu who is Omnipresent. Also his conceptual erasure isn't on a base level like you mentioned for both characters. His conceptual erasure is on an abstract/platonic level. Though Dante can be argued to be at the same level, it can be argued against. You mentioned this as well but Kumagawa verbatim states that he can make time non-existent for himself. Though Dante can counter Kumagawa quite a lot, Kumagawa's abilities are deeper than just base conceptual erasure. He can straight up erase a person's conceptual existence. So Dante is strong but Kumagawa wins this
@ToasterXD Жыл бұрын
Everything you just said doesn’t disprove the fact that Dante wins, you only reinstated what I was saying. Erasing time for oneself means nothing when the person you’re fighting can move beyond the natural flow of time, and this is assuming Kumagawa doesn’t get blitzed before he can. blitzing Aijumu means nothing either because it wouldn’t prove he scales to her as she has attributes that Kumagawa doesn’t have. It’s like if I said just because I can kill a spider then I have 8 legs. If you want to debate me on this, add me on Discord. Toaster#9850
@infinitedowns6630 Жыл бұрын
@@ToasterXD i believe it does even if he speed blitz kumagawa what ability does dante have that stops kumagawa from using all fiction to revive himself kumagawas negation ability scales beyond what dante can do from what i see
@ToasterXD Жыл бұрын
Dante is beyond the concepts of life and death, he’d straight up blitz and kill and he wouldn’t be able to revive himself
@MrCraftyScales Жыл бұрын
Bro Dante has the same conceptual abilities like kumagawa if not better lol, and there are contentions with him speedblitzing that clone, while dante instinctually learned how to fight and dodge an alternate dimension mundus who was actually omnipresent
@absolstoryoffiction6615 Жыл бұрын
DMC2 Final Boss laughs at All Fiction.
@Michelletto0 Жыл бұрын
Thats the power of Wacky Wahoo Pizza man
@PretentiousPicklePickingPunk Жыл бұрын
Broken Mic is goated 🤷♂️
@ToasterXD Жыл бұрын
LMFAOO
@genoveus Жыл бұрын
Yeah! My boy Dante just won a reality manipulation battle! PIZZAS and STRAWBERRY SUNDAES all round! Sorry, Dante; pizza shop said they can’t remove the olives…
@nuclearwaste2062 Жыл бұрын
Um...isnt medaka box a high outerversal verse? With insane meta fictional hax? Like kumagawa is a high tier that can straight up damage high outerversal beings and did so. He can control fiction. Thats the entire premise of the manga. They know they are in a manga and some of them even have powers above the author. Kumagawa scales to this. I dont know what skills you guys are using for dante, but you admit hes like 9D or higher. How is he touching a being thats irrelevant speed, outerversal to high outerversal hax, and literally above the concept of fiction? Fodder in medaka box literally have skills that transcended all dimensions. Dante is 9D or higher by your own research. Therefore he is transcended by fodder. I also saw your medaka box video, you admit they scale to high outerversal. Dante is getting 1 shotted here. Yea dante is a much cooler character and from a much better series, but he scales no where near high outerversal. His verse is getting soloed here. Its literally fiction.
@lordquastheonly Жыл бұрын
High outerversal < 9D to 11D there are infinites greater than other infinites
@nuclearwaste2062 Жыл бұрын
@@lordquastheonly high outerversal is beyond dimensional teiring. What system are you using? It goes from multiversal< multiversal + < complex multiversal (9D to 11D) < hyperversal (up to infinite D's)
@schlong3394 Жыл бұрын
@@lordquastheonly bro's literally THE writer, there's no such thing as high outerversal or high multi outerversal 9D XL ++, I don't even know the anime but for me, if the ability is called "all fiction" it all comes down from the author, and that author is kumagawa or, for short the author
@schlong3394 Жыл бұрын
I meant Sno such thing as high outerversal++ as in He doesn't even have this as he is the author itself, the reality reality
@LordMiraakedits2142 Жыл бұрын
All fiction is overrated, only works in medaka but Dante still destroys that fodder in his verse, Dante can negate haxs and has more speed
@fallen5616 Жыл бұрын
No the procese of causality manipulation basically makes it a instant win
@thenumber-os9bc Жыл бұрын
so besides dante is almost as far as we have seeing inmortal stabbing himself with one of the most powerful swords in the dmc universe and vergil doing it back in dmc 3 and nero doing it to in dmc 4, his natural talent with anything that can be used as a weapon matching him with vergil who has trained and always used 3 weapons for his entire life , also he literally defeat mundus who is like a god of the underworld and the one who created nightmare who is a demon that can destroy the underworld wich is an infinite in size so universal scale. In any case is not even a disscusion
@aidenanderson2777 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know that organs are very important in dmc
@Darkpwny60 Жыл бұрын
No matter how you spin it... I lose again -Kumagawa Misogi
@tek512 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it really isn't close. Dante wins by default.
@wicked.a950 Жыл бұрын
I dislike how all fiction and bookmaker are always talked about but in character his personality and failure inducement are the most dangerous
@xaviercrawl2710 Жыл бұрын
I only know kumagawa from some one else I’ve never seen or heard of it till this year, but I still know he solo’s a lot of people, if not everyone. Edit: just finished the video this is a HEAVY 50/50 fight and it’s compelling as it makes a lot of sense great job
@shademandude712 Жыл бұрын
The fight is just who one shots the other first😂
@pingspoofer832 Жыл бұрын
read medaka box
@nigersaurus057 ай бұрын
Dante: Im not even gonna sugar coat it: *starts moon walking and royal guarding*
@hi.im.iris69420 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure fucking Nero is able to beat kumagawa, the DMC verse is just that strong.
@JackgarPrime4 ай бұрын
How did this idea even cross your mind to do? They're so absurdly different.
@Ganz_GZ_Sans Жыл бұрын
Kumogawa takes this I guess but if he really REALLY wants to beat Dante he loses. Cuz Kumogawa loses whenever he wants to win, that's because he's the enbodiment of a "loser" and that is keeping him of beating someone, it's funny really, he can beat literally anyone by not noticing them and thinking they're weak and a background character, but can't beat someone who he WANTS to beat.
@rationeextrema3776 Жыл бұрын
Kumagawa's perception of his ability also affects his perception of what counts as a victory. He seems to see his ability as a cause for losing. Is he really winning if he's erasing his opponents skills and abilities? In his eyes, no. To him, he didn't challenge himself or develop his strength. It's even heavily emphasized that his losses are often because of himself. Kumagawa couldn't see himself winning against anyone, so he called it a loss or was easily beaten. This is even proven when he uses his original minus on Medaka yet still lost to her despite being equal at that point. So I should say that it isn't that he's the "embodiment of a 'loser,'" he's just unwilling to acknowledge his own hand in his losses.
@flappyflap2693 Жыл бұрын
im assuming you watched the video and saw why kumogawa loses after making this comment right
@MrCraftyScales Жыл бұрын
Bro Dante slams him
@KimDare75 Жыл бұрын
I be vibin to that voice sample
@illumialter8755 Жыл бұрын
First of all, Dantes ability to steal concepts only works on demons, which even he stated so I don't know why he just assumed it would work on like everything and everyone + Kumagawa isn't "above" death. He dies. He simply subconsciously erases the fact his death ever happened in the first place so that wouldn't work either. It feels like the guy in the end just really wanted Dante to win tbh...
@nonproductive8911 Жыл бұрын
either way doesn't really matter Kumagawa still loses regardless of what Dante can or can't do.
@trxckydestroyer2213 Жыл бұрын
I think he said it to show how he has experience of things of that nature besides his hacks doesn’t work on dante because as he mentioned there was a demon who dante fought (and he obviously won) that had the power to erase any demon he wanted
@illumialter8755 Жыл бұрын
@@trxckydestroyer2213 once again, that was against another demon. He specifically stated that demon hax abilities don't work on Dante, not that app hax abilities don't work on Dante
@trxckydestroyer2213 Жыл бұрын
@@illumialter8755 whats the difference between demon hax and regular hax? Just because they’re a demon doesn’t mean that their abilities aren’t the same as others or different from others and i’m pretty sure he didn’t mention that statement in anywhere in the vid and it isn’t just a dante thing most top tier demons are resistant to existence erasure
@illumialter8755 Жыл бұрын
@@trxckydestroyer2213 6:37, he conflates killing demons who are above the concept of life and eath with humans too for no reason. 6:56, he says exactly to the quote "allowed him to either steal, rob, or take a **demons** concept away-" Even he says he can take a demons concept but it never says anything about other people who aren't demons. Im not saying there's a difference to demon hax and regular hax but for Dante, its apparent this ability specifically only works on demons.
@FaizalKuntz Жыл бұрын
featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series
@joaopop1199 Жыл бұрын
You have to think about Kumagawa as a character, it is very simple. Kumagawa is a minus that is fated to never win, born as the unluckiest. His only "win" was when he brought down the protagonist Medaka to his level, and she still managed to win, proving it was possible for him to win since she had been brought down to his level. He never wins, for erasure means both not losing and not wining, and using his powers according to Kumagawa's phylosiphy is a loss. His speech when he entered the student council mentioned that if even he could "win" once, everyone else could, which further confirms what ive said. Also, Kumagawa had 3 powers, first was book marker, the power that made him think he could never win because its power was to bring people down to his level, meaning it could only ever end in a draw. Second was all fiction, which culminated from his state of mind and view on the world, him trying to escape from reality. Third was april fiction, which he developed after "wining" and losing against Medaka. The power makes things disappear and become nonexistant temporarily. He doesnt have all 3, he only got book marker back when fighting Medaka because he wanted to prove a point and make her feel how it felt to be him. His role in the series after joining the student council and what he learnt was that he could lose so others could win. He is and will forever be the eternal loser in the series, but thats what makes him the coolest character.
@joaopop1199 Жыл бұрын
His previous "wins", for Kumagawa were always losses. Because he needed to use his all fiction power, attack from behind, etc.
@DzBPlays Жыл бұрын
Need an entire vid with the "broken" (superiour) mic
@Jack-lo5me Жыл бұрын
So basically; Dante stomps him in speed, strength, and has a hax that would be able to ATLEAST copy if not outright steal Kumigawa’s one real big Hax, All-Fiction. So that means, Dante will attack Kumi, defeating him. Kumigawa will then say some bullshit like “no, you didn’t”, before Dante says “yeah, I did”(because he can cancel out Kumigawa’s All-Fiction with his own) and then Kumigawa dies.
@OmonaEmanon Жыл бұрын
So wait can't just Kumigawa said that you can't steal his power