Why Darth Plagueis Absolutely HATED the RULE OF 2

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@LetsHavePun
@LetsHavePun 3 ай бұрын
Because he was scared of death and knew the rule of 2 meant he'd be killed one day
@ryanmoore7098
@ryanmoore7098 3 ай бұрын
Plagueis is my favorite Sith!
@K.J.Richard
@K.J.Richard 3 ай бұрын
He is in the top 3 of the Sith who did the most for the Sith order, along with Darth Bane and Marka Ragnos
@Zypher2887
@Zypher2887 3 ай бұрын
Wait until Disney ruins him
@stop736
@stop736 3 ай бұрын
@@Zypher2887 This is what I’m worried about. In a weird way, one thing I love about Plaguies is just how close we were in learning about him in TPM. I’d rather they keep him just out of grasp as far as live action especially. If they’d have done a Tales of the Sith like they should have instead of Tales of the Empire, that would be a place to show him in a physical way.
@Zypher2887
@Zypher2887 3 ай бұрын
@@stop736 agreed I have been telling my friends I would rather them leave legends alone and go super far into the future where they can't ruin to much leave all the ones we know alone
@AncestorEmpire1
@AncestorEmpire1 3 ай бұрын
I heard that an imperial recruit was showing that thumbnail around an Imperial SSD and he was given the airlock treatment.
@Gor85
@Gor85 3 ай бұрын
This was extremely short sighted of Plagueis. Selfish,arrogant. But that was him. We respect him but he is. Palpatine was indeed gift of the dark side. Palpatine was pure,twisted,evil beyond measure,manaical gift of the dark side. May the Force be with you too😊
@JustinMinckley
@JustinMinckley 3 ай бұрын
Banger after banger with the Plagueis content
@thedarkplague1475
@thedarkplague1475 3 ай бұрын
The man had work to do. Plagueis was on the verge of discovering how to become immortal himself. He didn’t have time to worry about something as petty as the rule of two.
@UuLoo-if9gb
@UuLoo-if9gb 3 ай бұрын
I’ve always felt that the rule of two was a power grab type of thing and not something that was useful in the long run and the only reason it was created was to be greedy
@Cuban20
@Cuban20 3 ай бұрын
Plageuis, Sidious, and even Tenebrous hated the rule of two.
@summers1
@summers1 3 ай бұрын
The rule of two implies the continuation of the line thru death by a worthy apprentice Tenebrous, Plageuis, Sidious were all so full of pride and ambition that they couldn’t stand the thought of just being another Sith in Bane’s line when they could be THE Sith to destroy the Jedi and conquer the galaxy
@samvanderplas8970
@samvanderplas8970 3 ай бұрын
​@@summers1but shouldn't every sith master feel like that then? What changed these 3?
@Cuban20
@Cuban20 3 ай бұрын
@@samvanderplas8970 Not with the line of Darth Bane. Bane thought that if an enemy was superior, they had the right. That's why when his original dueling teacher was about to defeat him, he just gave up then and there because he realized there was no way of defeating him. So the Banite Sith believed that if an Apprentice became stronger than the Master, that they had the right to kill the Master and take over. That way, each master would be stronger than the last. Bane even said in his writings to his future disciples "if the thought of dying at the hand of your apprentice scares you then the Sith have received a fatal infection and you should leave the order now" or something to that extent. The problem was these last three Sith Lords were afraid, but wouldn't leave the order. Because they each thought they would be supreme among the Sith. And each tonight they would be immortal. Tenebrous did experiments in immortality too. But in his case he tried to create his own version of the Essence Transfer ability of Darth Andedu.
@RobertKhawli-v4h
@RobertKhawli-v4h 3 ай бұрын
I love your content! Thank you so much for the effort you put into making these videos! Since you are currently making videos regarding powerful force users, such as sidious, plaguies, etc, can you make a tier list where you rank these powerful force users, such as sidious, yoda, Vader, etc?
@lasgalon
@lasgalon 3 ай бұрын
5:45 and yet in the d20 star wars TTRPG Sidious had no ranks in force stealth
@mceithdavis3462
@mceithdavis3462 3 ай бұрын
i knew when they found him in the freezer i knew they all sealed there faith even the android wasnt really spared to him its u never saw me think no cloths and standing or sitting in a meat locker for hours is tru power or displayed
@AussieRider20
@AussieRider20 3 ай бұрын
The rule of two works best when you're nowhere near completion. As soon as they got towards the end of it they would always have had sith who were reluctant to go along with it
@Maikigai
@Maikigai 3 ай бұрын
“Why Plagues hated the rule of 2…” Because he couldn’t get their horrible singing out of his head.
@thomasparque7834
@thomasparque7834 3 ай бұрын
Tenebrous, Plageuis and even Sidious were fools to believe that the RoT should end with them and conquering the galaxy. The RoT might have been more effective in conquering the galaxy but those can easily be fixed for the Sith were adaptable in a lot of ways more so then Jedi ever were
@mikemichailidis1685
@mikemichailidis1685 3 ай бұрын
Darth Bane established the rule of 2 the problem is that in an age of peace the master wields power and the apprentice desires it. In the end the apprentice always kills the master (It would be better imo if the master gave his apprentice the opportunity to rule. Gaining knowledge and complete your training as a Sith is important but ruling a vast empire is the ultimate challenge)
@WhenSithHappens
@WhenSithHappens 3 ай бұрын
Plagueis and Sidious... now they were two Sith who knew how to party.
@shadeofshattered3
@shadeofshattered3 3 ай бұрын
True
@samsonthemighty19
@samsonthemighty19 3 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see the vid on why the holicron guardians of Darth Bane, Darth Nihilus, and Darth Andeddu had their own reasons for refusing to help Darth Krayt.
@scottrobinson529
@scottrobinson529 3 ай бұрын
Nice to know the Dark horse Star wars comics aren't forgotten
@samsonthemighty19
@samsonthemighty19 3 ай бұрын
@scottrobinson529 absolutely not on my watch. As far as I am concerned the legacy storyline is the true sequel trilogy, and not the disney sequel trilogy.
@noahblevins9569
@noahblevins9569 3 ай бұрын
​@@samsonthemighty19 We all wish it were the true canon. It is soooooooo much better.
@samsonthemighty19
@samsonthemighty19 3 ай бұрын
@noahblevins9569 exactly. Let's say in a what if scenario that I became Supreme Master of Lucasfilm I would decanonize all of disney Star Wars except for some of Rebels Mandalorian Season 1 and 2. I would restore Legends continuity and have Luke Han and Leia be center stage again in an 8 or 9 season animated series, you can bring Ahsoka into that and her show is erased. Make a proper heir to the empire and other storylines, then make a Darth Bane Trilogy Series at least 4 seasons long. Remake season 3 of the mandalorian where Grogu is not in it, and we go back to being an awesome Bounty Hunter. Then finally make the Legacy trilogy with Cade Skywalker against the One Sith Empire and have a tie in series to tell Ashred Hett story of him turning into Darth Krayt. Done instant money and everyone is happy.
@scottrobinson529
@scottrobinson529 3 ай бұрын
@@samsonthemighty19 I'd like to see the vong war. Or knights of the old republic
@Ethan_Chappell
@Ethan_Chappell 3 ай бұрын
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
@Ravenfanatic5
@Ravenfanatic5 3 ай бұрын
"I will do what I must."
@Ethan_Chappell
@Ethan_Chappell 3 ай бұрын
@@Ravenfanatic5 “you will try”
@77777Spooky
@77777Spooky 3 ай бұрын
Do or do not. There is no try.
@tatsusama3192
@tatsusama3192 3 ай бұрын
Has it been said how/why the Jedi never came for Palatine as a baby/child? He couldn't have been cloaking himself from birth
@Gum167
@Gum167 3 ай бұрын
noble despise Jedi.
@jtaylorgang9140
@jtaylorgang9140 3 ай бұрын
It said Palps was born with a natural expertise in the ability of force cloak or force concealment. 5:50
@brknglasses2734
@brknglasses2734 3 ай бұрын
I would hate a rule that made me destined to be murdered by Sidius, too!
@aster4jaden
@aster4jaden 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately for Plagueis, Sidious had other plans.
@zakosist
@zakosist 3 ай бұрын
Its almost like the force itself didnt like Plagueis plan of ending the rule of two, and made sure to send him an apprentice that would change his mind
@freesheep0
@freesheep0 3 ай бұрын
Because it takes 2 to tango and Plagueis was celibate.
@octagoloaner
@octagoloaner 3 ай бұрын
So Sith hate harbours for another is a rule of two like love is at least two and since tango is a one word meaning for either right🤳🤷‍♂️
@jacobdrolet4262
@jacobdrolet4262 3 ай бұрын
Amazing
@jasenbertrand
@jasenbertrand 3 ай бұрын
I don't think Bane meant for the Sith to be the blatant Ruler(s) of the galaxy, more of rulers by proxy through those bureaucrats
@jonathansianez8274
@jonathansianez8274 3 ай бұрын
He wants to build a sith army
@alaye5583
@alaye5583 3 ай бұрын
The real question is why 6 is afraid of 7.
@Chrisspru
@Chrisspru 3 ай бұрын
cause 7 8 9
@TariqAli-l8u
@TariqAli-l8u 3 ай бұрын
What happend too the droid from the robican from the darth plagues book he was helping in his research is their a possibility that this droid had certain instructions in case he was killed ?
@gabriel10169
@gabriel10169 3 ай бұрын
Basically everything Sidious did was part of Plagueis's plan. He might have adjusted a few little parts here or there but Plagueis was the real mastermind. Sidious gets too much credit for the fall of the Jedi when he was just fowling his master's script.
@brianescobedo1272
@brianescobedo1272 3 ай бұрын
It was Palpatine that decided to end rule of two
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 3 ай бұрын
Nice.
@elitempleton4200
@elitempleton4200 3 ай бұрын
could you please make a video about what unique traits/qualities that were more or less specific to each Sith that made them so dangerous/Terrifying/successful? doesn't have to be just power, and I know multiple dangerous Sith shared a lot in common like for instance, Cunning! what qualities of it did Bane have that made him unique and successful that other Sith didn't have. or power wise how different was the way Nihilus could instill fear when he used his powers in comparison to say Sidious or Vitiate? all three are extremely powerful, but would use that power to instill fear in different unique ways. A video about this would be AWESOME!
@alsimmonshellspawn6021
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 3 ай бұрын
Exar kun Is the only sith worthy to be compared to emperor papaltine reborn nihiluis would get wreck by exar kun
@elitempleton4200
@elitempleton4200 3 ай бұрын
​@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 while true, I wasn't talking about who was stronger, the point was who would you fear fighting more? for a real life example, who would you be more scared to fight? a thin 5'7 guy sprinting at you, who was carrying a butchers life, or a massive 6'6 mountain of a man charging at you full speed while carrying a metal baseball bat, both will kill you, but if you had to pick, which way to go would you choose? being stabbed to death? or being bashed over and over again until you die? Nihilus is a force of nature, in the fact that there is no tricking him, bribing him, or surviving him, for he only wants to feed, and that's it, now With Exar Kun he could invoke the same feeling as Nihilus and Sidious but to a lesser extent. No, his main fear inducing trait is that he is similar in some ways with Sidious, he can destroy you in a fight or play with and shape your mind as if it were clay, but you simply don't know what he was going to do, and while Sidious could invoke the same feelings as Exar or Nihilus but to a lesser extent, what make Sidious so terrifying is that unlike Exar or Nihilus, you would be completely unaware that he is trying to kill or destroying your life, in fact he would appear as if he was your friend, worried about, while slowing twisting that knife in deeper, and he would only reveal who he truly was right before he kills you. ​
@alsimmonshellspawn6021
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 3 ай бұрын
@elitempleton4200 this why you need to do more research on exar kun the suspect insight has a ultimate respect thread for him, exar kun was also a master at disguising his presents from others he also knew force drain, people that saw him were Astonished and in horror when they looked at his eyes he was the darkest power in the galaxy at that time post nathema ritual vitiate and abeloth were alive
@elitempleton4200
@elitempleton4200 3 ай бұрын
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 I'll be sure to check it out! thanks for the recommendation, still to me it's a toss up at who I, the forceless pleb who you find on wish, would be more terrified of. yes to a fellow force user, Exar and Sidious and depending on how you interpret the lore, Vitiate are the ones you would fear, but as a non force user? who just has enough of the force in them to live? now Nihilus enters the picture. because while there plenty of other force users who can also use force drain, some even becoming masters of it, non and i mean non(besides the Force entities, but they don't really count)come even close to what Nihilus could use it for. now one v one Nihilus vs anyone of those 3 I mentioned? maybe they would a first be a little bit surprised(however unlikely)but they would shake it off and counter his abilities and swiftly overpower him and depending on there mood, kill him, spare him and train him as either a tool or apprentice(just as unlikely, but still could happen)use him as a test subject to run experiments on or use him in some kind of dark side ritual to power the selves a bit.
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 3 ай бұрын
Cool.
@shadeofshattered3
@shadeofshattered3 3 ай бұрын
He feared the rule of two and hated it but subconsciously followed it took an apprentice taught him everything he knew let him get his own ambitions didnt think to have security against him
@marvolomethod
@marvolomethod 3 ай бұрын
Suprised this video isn’t being attacked like everything else Star Wars ,,,
@georgepapatheofilou6118
@georgepapatheofilou6118 3 ай бұрын
Where they all virgins out of curiosity in regards to the grams because I'd reject immediately. All power to the FORCE
@alsimmonshellspawn6021
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 3 ай бұрын
Do how powerful was anakin solo
@westongarner-qo2ez
@westongarner-qo2ez 3 ай бұрын
First like!👍 Awesome video!🤘
@hugokasimir6440
@hugokasimir6440 3 ай бұрын
Intrestingeresting but i wonder what would have happened if Darth plagius would Take Darth Tyranys As A Sith Aprentice During the Clone war. Just one Year After the Clone war Hade started And Began to be in a 1 Year
@thedigitalbash1506
@thedigitalbash1506 3 ай бұрын
I feel like you've covered this topic before.
@concerta56
@concerta56 3 ай бұрын
5:12 Kate McKinnon?
@michaelgilmore795
@michaelgilmore795 3 ай бұрын
I’m a huge Star Wars. I remember back when seeing EP IV way back then. My fault did not know anything about the books until nearly 20yrs after watching IV. Since then, I have nearly a 100 in books, comics & ebooks (take to Iraq). I have watched some really good commentaries to the current Star Wars what is now DSW which is a pale form of GL had created. (Forgiveness for grammatical errors) I want to comment on this poorly created show from a true SW historian and why it does not work. Why the will not work Acolyte (the joke of DSW shows and movies). They claim we know nothing of SW. We just do not know DSW which is not GL true work, like I say…paaaaaaaaale…version. 1. The show is set 100ys before EP I. This does not work due to it being referenced as High Republic. If the High Republic, I believed it to be the early years way before Bane, way before any of the Sith Wars. If the story was flesh out more with more character development. I would have developed a 10 book story to really create a truly developed story before bringing it down to a tv format to designate 1 or two books to be the first series depending upon the creative writer. Apparently, Headland was not this. Getting back to the timeline of the days of the High/Old Republic. The reason it should not be a 100yrs into the past. After the events of the Darth Bane Trilogy, the intelligence network was set up and most like financial savings beginning to develop. This is the start of corruption of the republic, ever be so small (like snowball effect starts with a pebble. By the time this show comes up in the timeline, the corruption level is very high due to the generations of the rule of two Darths. They would have maneuvered people into many different positions to promote the efforts to take over the galaxy whether it would be soon or another 1000 years. Reading some of the books and EP1 being a source, it would seem to be a Master and Apprentice, not a group which would be seen as aggression. Many millenniums of dealing with people certain protocols were setup and two was only needed. 2. Flashiness of the Jedi, during the Bane book 1 had shown certain Jedi members who were flashy compared to the time period of EP1. This show would not work. Most likely work more in the early years of the Republic due to being in flashy robes would fit to distinguish themselves as Jedi or Guardians of the Galaxy. 3. Jedi Masters being gullible or evil. The Jedi had been around for many millenniums. To say that Jedi are dumb after so many cases of how to deal in interjecting with different people and the procurement of future padawans. Today being a Master for many hundred years and suddenly doing evil would make Yoda more susceptible to becoming a sith if ever did something like this. The Jedi itself are not perfect, they fight against their own feelings that are harmful and corruptible and becoming seduced by the dark side, especially anger. Example: Kenobie was not anger at the seen of his master being killed in front of him, would be wrong. Him not using some of that anger to push to not only fight this antagonist, but to bring an into him. He just did not rely on it solely due to his breathing and calming his mind. Anger still lingers despite the efforts, but it is not solely used to urge him to fight. It dissipates afterwards and most likely he learned from his mistake and grew from this. The last scene of him with Maul where he watch him go through three different stances is one where he was with Gui-Gon and the last is his more mature stance where wisdom and reliance on the force was paramount. 4. This new group of a’ la witches. Most likely Jedi would have nothing to do with them, basically leaving them alone and isolated. Proof: The Planet Dathomir in particular is an example. Most likely the Jedi knew of the Nightsisters and Yoda would have known of them. If they presented themselves as a problem, there would have annihilate them, but bring about a black mark upon the Jedi. It is possible being under the guidance of the government, it was not the best of ideas. During the Tenebrous and Plagueis years, certain individuals would be in placed and guided to have Dothomir from being invaded or inspected. They would could have kidnapped nightsisters over the years to experiment on the midichlorians. Darth Tenebrous would have sent Plagueis to prove himself to investigate and kill pretenders of the mantle of the sith. They be utterly decimated and maybe their history erased as though they never existed considering the planet Kamino was hidden greatly. There’s probably more, but that is it for now.
@bigdgoriders
@bigdgoriders 3 ай бұрын
Ya so why is the initial image from Acolyte when that's not real Star Wars?
@ngonfinda9606
@ngonfinda9606 3 ай бұрын
Worrying about generation's to come after you seems more like a Jedi virtue than a strength and strategy of a sith unless they could possibly transfer bodies to prevent death to a stronger body with a weaker will but still strong in the dark side of the force able to channel it high potential ect
@healmyvision5941
@healmyvision5941 3 ай бұрын
Rightfully so Rule of 2 hide and conspiracy sith are boring compared to warriors like Malgus
@SplinteredChaos
@SplinteredChaos 3 ай бұрын
Over 9 minutes on why he took an apprentice, not why he hated the rule of two. Gotta title your videos better.
@marceloasensiofilho3833
@marceloasensiofilho3833 2 ай бұрын
The rule of 2 is kinda stupid tbh. I think ending it would be smarter and wiser. I understand that having a ton of Sith would cause infighting but the rule of 2 also makes it WAY EASIER to end the Sith. Probably a smaller group of Sith would work better instead of 2 only
@samuelrobles3737
@samuelrobles3737 3 ай бұрын
Day 560 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 3 ай бұрын
A
@SHARKVADERS
@SHARKVADERS 3 ай бұрын
NNNNNNOOOOOOO
@thomasmuller546
@thomasmuller546 3 ай бұрын
good story but the title does not get answered
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 3 ай бұрын
Sure.. Plageuis COULDA been the Sithari... EXCEPT for the whole LITERALLY pissing off the Force.. an his Ancient Sith Ancestors an all.. an becoming LESS about the Force.. an even the Galaxy at large an basically being little more then a Sith Scientist an a pretty arrogant one at that.. Remember Anakin ALSO could been the prophesied 'Chosen One' of either the Sith or Jedi Orders too...
@Charlie-f4q4o
@Charlie-f4q4o 3 ай бұрын
No your rong
@pierrecortes2143
@pierrecortes2143 3 ай бұрын
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