Why Deadpool is FUNNY and She-Hulk is NOT

[@callmejacob3234]

Well Deadpool & Wolverine was made by people who actually care while She-Hulk is Disney slop.

[@JohnPeacekeeper]

It helps when your producer is also Ryan Reynolds.

[@MoonPhantom]

The way I like to say it... The people who made deadpool loves it source material and adores their fans. She-Hulk hates its own source material and despise the fans. That's the difference. Also She-Hulk always wants to prove it is smarter than you. While Deadpool kind of acknowledges it's kind of dumb, but we're all here for fun.

[@shealupkes]

deadpool was made by people who love deadpool and understand how he works, she hulk was made by people who like deadpool and think they can do better

[@atomicskull6405]

"sombody" at Disney tried to have She Hulk and Captain Marvel photobomb the movie by showing how much better they each are then Wade and Logan and now there's a huge behind the scenes fight over those scenes being cut from the final.

[@chrisbanos1112]

Because Deadpool was chosen to make money creativity matters

[@Backfromthedeadguy]

Deadpool laughs with the audience, She-Hulk laughs at the audience.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

*pretends to laugh at the audience

[@Fiddyscent]

You worded this perfectly I gave a similar response but I didn’t hit the nail on the head like you I’m here to laugh not for guilt

[@Fiddyscent]

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombatdo you always try to correct perfection?

[@caydengonzales5495]

Thid

[@moon_0207]

I mean there were times Deadpool did poke fun at the audience but it was done tastefully. We could all laugh at ourselves TOGETHER because we realize what he’s poking fun of IS rather funny if we think about it. She-hulk just laughs at us like she’s saying how inferior or dumb the audience is.

[@JotakuJo]

You're wrong! I was at the hairdressers and seen two old ladies talking about Deadpool, saying how romantic and absolutely hilariously funny it was. Over 60 years did enjoy it.

[@Dargonhuman]

Of all the things to be called wrong for, that seems like the best one.

[@kolthen4169]

"romantic" xD

[@Tyu-f1s]

@@kolthen4169 Even Deadpool said it was a romance movie

[@audreyplaysnice2086]

@@kolthen4169 didn't you cry when vanessa died? tear up a little? everything he does is so he can be with her or make her happy. did you see how depressed he got when vanessa died. he just wanted the pain to stop....hence the fiery self-imposed explosion.

[@kolthen4169]

@@audreyplaysnice2086 movie's way too quirky to get that emotional tbh. Like it's good but didn't often play on my feels

[@SpiderDash]

Key difference, Deadpool can laugh at himself and acknowledge his flaws, She-Hulk acts like she's better than everyone else and acts like she has no flaws.

[@waltuh979]

Much like their respective actors

[@LoicCT7567]

​@@waltuh979you dropped this 👑

[@jimsteinmanfan80]

While having many many flaws.

[@trollmaster4523]

Thank you someone FLIPPING said it.

[@moseszero3281]

@@waltuh979 Tatiana was great in Orphan Black. She-Hulk was an insult-to/waste-of her talents.

[@Quartermp4]

“The only reason people watched her show was because of daredevil” That’s depressingly true 😂

[@flashboy826]

and to add because hulk and abomination was there too

[@suvamk]

Oh yea..exactly the same thing happened when captain marvel launched.. it released between infinity war and endgame and people didnt wanted to miss out on the lore.

[@ErikMuñoz-x1d]

And she hulk made daredevil look bad just for laughs. I hated it.

[@quihuynh1647]

@@suvamk It wasn't much anyway

[@redrocksvlogs]

So true but however they ruined the character by making him comedic. Good thing Echo redeemed him as well in the upcoming Daredevil Born Again series.

[@Quole1234]

The Deadpool movies genuinely feel like the writers were working WITH the fans. The She-Hulk show genuinely feels like the writers were working AGAINST the fans. One was trying to give them what they wanted, the other was trying to piss them off to try to somehow prove a point.

[@paraglide01]

Deadpool has fans, SheHulk has viewers.

[@matthewlee7405]

Deadpool & Wolverine was fan service. She-Hulk was Disney self-service.

[@KittyKat-ky5us]

Or just make money, for she hulk that is

[@highgaming6444]

@@matthewlee7405 Yeahh that explains so much actually

[@TheCalverine]

even Deadpool insulting the logan's grave did not make me angry because it was done tastefully. ❤️

[@maharghjoshi228]

Movie started with him saying that he won't disrespect logan And then just screams f**k you I will 😂😂😂😂 I just died laughing 😂😂😂😂

[@KristopherPrime]

Hell, there was a reason for the disrespect rather than just “fuck him”. He was desperate to save his world and needed Wolverine, so he was dude Logan was still alive. Yet, they simultaneously respect his death by keeping “our” Logan dead and shattering Deadpool’s hopes in a sad manner. Now he had to settle for the “worst” Wolverine as help.

[@Right_Bumper]

@@KristopherPrime You can tell people who got pissed at that scene didn't understand it

[@kellymoses8566]

It was hilarious.

[@JohnPeacekeeper]

What helped make Deadpool desecrating Wolverine's corpse work was, not only did he open up to him anyway---he got the dead Wolverine's killstreak going post-mortem. That's badass.

[@silvertiger1324]

Deadpool writers wrote a movie to entertain the audience en masse. She-Hulk head writer went on film stating she wanted to piss what she deemed a fraction of the audience off, not entertain them. Turns out her calculations were as bad as her writing.😎

[@richardperaza5083]

Also I can’t remember if it was the writer or show runner they blatantly stated that they wanted to appeal to a specific group

[@ZinoAmare]

Doesn’t have to the series is out just watch it if it feels to political there is your queue. I seen snippets of it and I instantly thought not for me then all the hate came lol

[@RTU130]

Right

[@HippityhoppityGnW]

@@reekinronald6776a woman directed American psycho, which is a pretty damn good satire-thriller (not a romcom). Very incorrect statement here.

[@kawansiesquad6659]

@@richardperaza5083what group was that, cause it certainly was not women either. I got pissed by the show at around episode 6. I was trying to look past the cringe. If I could sit thru miraculous ladybug surely I could watch the rest. But no, I just got so annoyed by her decisions and actions that I just dipped

[@greendaleforever]

She-Hulk was made for 'modern audiences' and the Deadpool trilogy was made for everyone.

[@AlexisWilliams-cj3zc]

Well except children

[@polskififerr2622]

@@AlexisWilliams-cj3zcwhy does these two comments sound like deadpool line

[@RainSennin_ismyAlt]

​@@AlexisWilliams-cj3zc I dunno there's a few kids in my neighborhood who love Deadpool

[@MisterRandomEncounter]

@@polskififerr2622 Cadence probably most of Deadpools stuff on a rythm level reads like that. a. this is a statement its solid b. ima poke it a is longer than b to make it seem more important b. is shorter to make how it destroys a more memorable. that might be the reason.

[@polskififerr2622]

@@MisterRandomEncounter but wont you agree that Its always funny?

[@BP-dn9nv]

One of the big rules when it comes to breaking the fourth wall is that acknowledging your writing is bad does not automatically make it better.

[@bryanwoods3373]

That's what kills me. They're patting themselves on the back for pissing off the man-babies, but they don't get the anger is because calling out their bad writing means they could have done better but chose not to.

[@tomgames8616]

​@@bryanwoods3373they changed the resolution of the plot but didn't show how it played out. If they had showed how the finale played out it would have been better. There was a conclusion without the actual conclusion.

[@bryanwoods3373]

@tomgames8616 Honestly, I don't think thought that far ahead. They just needed to get to a specific spot, realized they wrote themselves into the wrong corner, and just went "yeah, we made it". Having to reorganize the episode order probably didn't help, but I think that was their fault as well. I also think a better fourth wall gag would be to say she's running late, and either use an edit to skip 10 seconds that was the commute or have been doing ad breaks or eye catches for her to run across this time. The jumping to a different show that would be set before her show to change her future is pushing too hard on the joke. It's somehow more of a contrivance than everyone showing up at the same time for a giant gamma fight.

[@SmashupMashups]

"Well, that's just lazy writing." - _Deadpool 2_

[@Simon2k17]

Deadpool: Troll Humor, class clown humor She Hulk: Insecure Humor, try hard humor

[@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233]

Deadpool: Troll Humor, class clown humor She Hulk: Insecure, try hard *fixed*

[@TheGalantMAN]

@@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233 Lmao

[@baldeagle5297]

@@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233 Not really. Notice the repetition of the word "humor?" The OP uses it as an intensifier, driving home the difference with similarity. Leaving out the word dilutes the impact.

[@Umbra_Nocturnus]

@@baldeagle5297 I think the point is just that She Hulk does not have humor and is only insecure and try hard. I like the deep analysis you did though.

[@Krmiby]

Exactly, people can detect when you are non-genuine and try hard.

[@marcotix4]

She-Hulk was a joke that told you constantly: “Women have it harder than men… Women are better than men… Women don’t need men…”

[@rednova2212]

Funny when you think about it. if they have it harder, how are they better, and why do they not need men? I am so happy that bear grylls show proved women who say that are OBJECTIVELY wrong.

[@Ch4osKing66]

Deadpool doesn't blatantly disrespect the audience.

[@yellowcard8100]

I mean, he kinda does. But again, he does it funnier. Deadpool digs up Logan's dead corpse and plays with it. It's a massive disrespect to that movie but it's also funny.

[@dondp2741]

​@@yellowcard8100it's because through his multiple 4th wall breaks he puts himself below the audience and Wolverine so when he does something disrespectful it doesn't matter

[@kibikiwi175]

@@yellowcard8100 I kinda disagree. Whilst it's meant to SEEM disrespectful, the scene does build up the point of trying to undo Wolverine's death, but it works perfectly, because in the process, it actually respects the impact and finality that Logan shows as a movie by keeping him dead and showing that he's absolutely dead, albeit morbidly and humorously. It's there to go "yeah, that Logan's story ended perfectly, and we're not meddling with it". New era, new/different Logan. It's a Deadpool-styled love letter and send off to Fox's Logan.

[@pepsiCola-e9p]

He is kinda nice to the audience, I freaking love Deadpool, I made drawings of a few marvel characters, and Deadpool was the best

[@nathanielj2902]

Does She-Hulk disrespect the audience?

[@Sean-qg3gg]

I feel Nicepool’s gentle tap of the fourth wall was making fun of She-Hulk’s fourth wall attempts

[@rohanrajput_9]

"You think that's what I do?" ~ DP

[@xperiaplayuser]

😂😂

[@striker-zq1040]

that would be amazing if confirmed

[@Mystic2760]

_"The Proposal."_

[@KristopherPrime]

True. Him blurting out “the proposal” wasn’t funny. Simply referencing something (like name dropping that doesn’t always make the reference work there needs to be some logical reason to drop it.

[@ayee483]

Now that you've mentioned it Wolverine saying "You really are God's perfect Idiot" It might be a nod to the First Deadpool film where Ryan Reynolds labeled himself as God's perfect idiot

[@Idontpaytaxeslol]

Oh yeah I forgot that when I watched it 😅

[@Infamous1892]

The difference between She-Hulk and Deadpool is She-Hulk has bad writers, Deadpool has Good writers.

[@IceZone27]

Don’t forget good actor and bad actors

[@SweetDeeJay]

The end.

[@FieldBoy111]

This kind of reminds me how alot of women find themselves more attractive than they actually are.

[@VSiFer]

Most She Hulk actors are good. The show's problem was completely in the writing, and a little bit in the CG department.

[@SHOEBILLMEMEZ]

​@@FieldBoy111 fr, a 2 rates themselves a 10 but for guys a 10 rates themselves as 2

[@daniel79tj]

Deadpool geeked out for Logan and Cap, She hulk lectured Hulk and said she was better than her more experienced cousin.

[@genevieve7676]

Which annoyed me since Bruce was only trying to help her. The way he did it was kind, not mansplaining at all.

[@exgeeinteractive]

Funny thing is that Bruce's life story was one of the saddest in Marvel comics.

[@MegaKnight2012]

For supporting cast, Colossus was a real stand out. One of the absolute funniest parts of the first movie was when Deadpool tries to beat up Colossus, making Deadpool the butt of the joke of someone trying to punch and kick a nigh indestructible man. Colossus, meanwhile is just tired and feeling sorry for Deadpool's stupidity. It was made all the funnier given how the movie came out at the beginning of 2016, which was the year of repetitive superhero vs superhero projects, and they managed to spoof them all with Deadpool vs Colossus (probably a more accurate version of Batman vs Superman than Zach Snyder's movie).

[@anandhushaji1298]

Also Ryan Reynolds is a charismatic and likable guy in real life. They say that Ryan Reynolds does not play Deadpool, but that Deadpool plays Ryan Reynolds.

[@dudelesanimation3672]

At this point I cannot find many differences between the two

[@TravelTechie415]

not sure about that, I rather meet Tatiana Maslany in person, she aight, like a solid 5. But chicks ain't funny, and the wnba sucks.

[@BayernManager]

​@@TravelTechie415 boo

[@TheGreatSayaMan0212]

@@TravelTechie415????? What does that have anything to do with the character Deadpool and the actor Ryan Reynolds?

[@TravelTechie415]

@@TheGreatSayaMan0212 dude, did you read the title of this vid? chicks ain't funny

[@rustyshackleford2950]

Deadpool is like DBZ Abridged. It makes fun of the genre but it’s clearly coming from a place of love and being a fan.

[@Proudmadarastan]

Definitely

[@MrREAPERsz]

That's exactly what this is

[@codyholley]

Also doesn't hurt the Deadpool knows what he is and place to a strengths

[@NarwahlGaming]

The best She-Hulk 4th wall break in comics was when she was visiting a friend and needed to get to her office in a hurry, but traffic was going to be bad so she grabs her friend and just walks to the next panel over (her office) and her friend is all, _"HOW ARE YOU DOING THIS?!"_ Simple humor we never saw in the show.

[@slosubies4845]

LOL. I remember a cover where she was in a bikini and when you open the book, the first splash page has her yelling right at the reader "A bikini cover?! REALLY?!"

[@badconnection4383]

Deadpool's humor comes from sincerity while She-Hulk's comes from spite.

[@redshepherd32]

If you are willing to joke about yourself. You already know how to write comedy better than she hulk

[@safiragems]

deadpool got roasted by wolverine is one of the best acting he kept talking and then someone managed to stop him talking

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

Faxx

[@billhope914]

like most womens comedy

[@AngerySnek]

@@billhope914 Don't bring women's comedy into this. She-Hulk isn't bad because it's a women's comedy, it's bad because it was written by people who don't give a shit about the characters

[@thenerdytiger9306]

The thing with the 4th wall breaks is that for she hulk as far as i know it's not explained WHY she does it. For deadpool he didn't start break the 4th wall until AFTER his powers manifested. The other characters in deadpool can hear him breaking the 4th wall, but believe that it is a mental effect of his mutation

[@Dargonhuman]

One of the funniest jokes from the Deadpool comics IMO is when a different character comments on something from a yellow narration box and Deadpool exclaims, "You can see those yellow boxes too?!" To which the other character flatly states, "What yellow boxes? You just keep narrating things out loud and we can all hear you." The next narration box is then in a smaller font as though the narrator is whispering.

[@Fenalarhue]

The reason why she hulk breaks the fourth wall is because she did so in the comics. Before deadpool and all. So that's why they make her break the fourth wall in the series, but they do so very poorly

[@GamerGeek4Lyf3]

That was prob my only gripe with the 1st Deadpool movie. Wade was breaking the 4th wall (indirectly referring to the Green Lantern movie) before Francis triggered his mutation.

[@chancegoode173]

Personally I don’t like my characters to interact with the viewing audience in a movie. It makes me realize this is a movie instead of me getting caught up in the plotting and wicked away the 4th wall break brings you back to reality.

[@Sf_solarflare]

@@Dargonhuman gwenpool can also do that i think its funny lmao, my oc can sometimes see them but whenever she does she thinks shes hallucanting💀

[@TheHirohikoAraki]

Even if She-Hulk started the 4th wall break during her comic book run, Deadpool perfected it without hesitation.

[@PasmineJariston]

In the comics, She-Hulk is definitely much better than her live action version...

[@michellewilliams9772]

@@PasmineJariston Yeah, I actually like comic She-Hulk so I tuned in when it aired. The only reason I got through the first episode is because I was watching with someone else. I would have shut it off otherwise.

[@akatsukioverlord1169]

She hulk gets cat called Bruce was abused, hunted by the military, tried to kill himself multiple times, and struggled to be the person in control of his own body. His friends had to launch him into space the last time he lost control (where he had to fight, found love, had a kid, then watched the planet die) just to eventually come home and be humbled by thanos then and only then to finally gain control of himself

[@metalanarchy5186]

And watch a woman who he loved scarfice herself to bring everyone back while he crippled his arm that may never be the same again

[@mutantdevle]

I feel like people entirely miss the point of this distinction. She Hulk never says that her struggles are WORSE- just that her struggles directly link to the skill of being in control of yourself. Bruce being abused or trying to kill himself would not make him better at controlling his anger. They'd arguable mean he'd have LESS control which is exactly what we see. On the other hand, having to deal with sexist remarks and assumptions every day yet knowing you can't respond to them at the risk of damaging your career or 'proving people right' WOULD help you improve that specific skill of self-control.

[@lcako1616]

​@@mutantdevleWell that clearly isnt true since she went crazy in the courtroom. Fielding off little comments in no way shape or firm makes you more able to control your anger than those who have overcome abuse. Since overconfidence is meant ti be her flaw you are meant to think that comment is stupid not justify it.

[@tantheman4512]

​@@mutantdevle well it's the tone and the words she hulk chose to say it that makes her sounds like that. Also Bruce has been hulk way longer and even if he still has problems controlling still has way more experience in dealing with it than anyone else. At least that scene they did just seemed to directly insult the hulk. Deadpool is a way more likable character.

[@ConquerorOfyt]

​@@mutantdevleit was written by people who don't care about the characters and just as a moment to say that women in general have harder lives than men

[@s1lv3rboss24]

Deadpool: actual humor She-Hulk: constant pandering

[@purplespectre]

Pandering to who? That's one of the many problems with the show, it doesn't feel like it has an audience. It's not made for fans of the character, not for comic fans, not for MCU fans, not for superhero movie/CBM fans, not for casual moviegoers, not for cinephiles or critics, not for kids, not for adults... It's like it's pandering, but it isn't actually pandering to anyone. It doesn't have an audience.

[@MaxxwellBGMI]

​@@purplespectreyeah i agree on that since even i thought when i saw she-hulk i didn't thought it as entertaining or even a part of the mcu at all..its just like a movie that marvel released so that people will know and remember that there is a character called "she-hulk" 😐 but it was really bad writers who produced it

[@hellacoorinna9995]

@@purplespectre *_"Pandering to who?"_* The writers.

[@mabutoo]

Actual Humor? when? Deadpool was all cameos: that's pandering to the extreme. They even brought Blade into it; a completely separate universe.

[@mabutoo]

She Hulk had 3 cameos, I lost count of all the cameos in Deadpool.

[@MrMyNameIsHaha]

Deadpool keeps telling himself that he's unbearable and yet is loved by many She-Hulk wanted to tell you that she's smart, witty, perfect, and yet is constantly hated by everyone Gotta love irony

[@imnotfunnybro]

Funny thing is, comic She-Hulk is more than confident in herself, her abilities, her strength and smarts but she in no way shape or form gloats or tries to make other people feel inferior. In true she’s empathetic, sympathetic, and is one of the friendliest people next to Spiderman to be around

[@PrimordialNyx]

Also she's an actual good lawyer.

[@isomericgamer6644]

She also admits that she has it way easier than hulk in the comics.

[@reign1576]

She hulk in the comic is cool

[@avacherubin4749]

So they messed up her character? I’m asking bc I didn’t watch the show, which sounds like a good thing.

[@AugustoEL]

​@@avacherubin4749Yeah save yourself the waste of time.

[@connorrhun]

Ryan Reynolds gives Honest Trailers vibes

[@Ninja07Keaton]

I see what you did there.

[@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233]

Not a coincidence. I saw an Interview where the producers directly stated, they wanted it to be Honest Trailers Save.

[@Mat_yup]

She-Hulk's side characters feels like they're the jokes and punchlines everytime they show up, but the joke is always "they're dumb and i'm not"

[@genevieve7676]

Which is why Wade isn't a Marty Stu character because he gets insulted and criticized just like the side characters.

[@JohnDude8442]

Curious that in the comics I prefer She-Hulk much more than Deadpool, but in Live-Action, Deadpool is much better.

[@Slavic_Snake]

​@@SirsasthNigam. who?

[@EvanOfTheDarkness]

The main difference, is that DP is written by talented writers, who like and respect the comics, and put their soul into it, while She-Hulk was written by a bunch of talentless and unfunny diversity hires, who think success is something they deserve, because they're women, and not something to earn.

[@liborohanka5010]

Most accurate TV series about She-hulk? From which? Where else she did appear?

[@liborohanka5010]

Well, that shows, that problem isn't in characters themselves, but in how they were adapted.

[@senate2674]

And that ladies and gents, was a lie 😂

[@plumdowner1941]

Deadpool succeeds because it's marketed towards people who like Deadpool. She-Hulk fails because it's marketed towards people who hate She-Hulk.

[@stevenbjerke2825]

Amen, I thought both were great.

[@jithinkumar7985]

I think most people were excited for she hulk. I mean her comics are great. It’s funny and almost feels likeit should be a comic strip. I think she hulk was a project that should have been a movie instead of a show and should have had a tighter budget like the first deadpool movie did.

[@AlmightyKevo]

Correction She-Hulk was marketed towards people who dont care for comic book movies in general

[@warllockmasterasd9142]

Actually the head-writers of the show, took pride in making the fans hate the show. it was done deliberately literally.

[@FoxyGuyHere]

How was it marketed to people who hate her?

[@debbiemassey7711]

I’m 65, I’m a woman, I love Deadpool. Stop assuming.

[@HippityhoppityGnW]

Chad-ess

[@doodlecrazydc]

Target audience doesn't mean you're not allowed to enjoy it if you're outside of it, only that they are primarily aiming for those specific demographics. It's not an assumption, target audiences are just a part of making any piece if media.

[@user-ip1ow7hf8c]

You are the exception not the rule.

[@kairosfoster519]

Because Deadpool and Wolverine is mad for the fans While She Hulk is made to piss them off

[@purplespectre]

Mad or made?

[@ernestovillalpando6358]

​@@purplespectre made

[@Dargonhuman]

@@purplespectre Both actually work if what Ryan allegedly said to Disney during production of Deadpool & Wolverine is true.

[@DeathMonky22]

deadpool writers don't hate the fans, she-hulk writers hate the fans, why is there a question which fans would prefer to view?

[@LargeCappWithTwo]

This comment is too pretentious. Can you explain what you meant by 'she hulk writers hate the fans'? Gtfo here.

[@macmcleod1188]

Yes I normally like to use the word customer instead of fan because it clarifies the financial relationship. But I think you are correct here. Also I think it's more specific. The Deadpool writers absolutely adore their fans who grew up on Deadpool comics and X-Men comics. And the writers of She-Hulk obviously despised She-Hulk's male fans. The show oozes constant misandry.

[@greatgatsby0174]

@@LargeCappWithTwoThe She hulk writers had zero respect for her character and lore, the Deadpool ones did. Simple as.

[@TitanBolt99]

​@@greatgatsby0174 The Deadpool movies don't do the character justice. They changed his character so much.

[@TitanBolt99]

​@@macmcleod1188 The Deadpool writers don't adore any REAL fans of Deadpool. Didn't even stay true to the comics.

[@superminivan2241]

Deadpool’s humility with the self-roasts and using fourth-wall breaking/audience irony made him so like-able. She-hulk being “better” than Bruce was an immediate turn-off.

[@fortcraftgame2]

One fourth wall break I loved in Deadpool 3 was when Wade grabbed the camera, said “Suck it fox-“ and then he grabbed the mic, spoke directly into it and said “-I’m going to disneyland” and then headbutted the camera, breaking the lens

[@Shockwave-films2007]

I think the joke was that he was so happy to join the mcu, that he would jab at his original studio and work with disney

[@Dumbird0]

Thank you for saying that. I had a good laugh renembering that part of the film.

[@4Curses]

It's even funnier when you look at the turn of the movie. Instead of going to the MCU he is literally backtracking to older Marvel heroes who were not part of the MCU

[@jase276]

It wasn't a fourth wall break but my favorite side character joke is when Wade was trying to have an emotional birthday speech and after repeatedly getting interrupted he shouts" bitch, are you improving?" and the guy stops

[@therockyb.channel532]

She-Hulk was better in the comics

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

some comics, not all. She was good with the FF also.

[@therockyb.channel532]

@@kicknowledgesmith8608 I know, modern comics aren't as good, especially when they tried to make her into a traditional hulk for whatever reason.

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

@@therockyb.channel532 I don't just mean modern, she has some mid comics in the early days also. She Hulk had like 1 good run. The show should have stuck with her origin story to build up the character and bring in the jokes later after she is established. I liked her best with the FF

[@therockyb.channel532]

@@kicknowledgesmith8608 I thought she wast still cool early on, besides every character has some misses early on, even deadpool, and he's my favorite Super Hero.

[@CidGuerreiro1234]

Yeah she had some genuinely cool comics as a lawyer for super heroes.

[@GalactusDaDevourer]

4:35 Eminem watch out!! 👀

[@daviddylan9097]

Real reason is that Ryan Renolds is naturally funny and likable, people can't replicate that. Its just how is is, not everyone has that certain charm, I mean, just because of Ryan I almost bought a phone plan through mint mobile. xD

[@dantedavis4679]

Me too LOL

[@PenNamed]

I actually bought it LMAO

[@marshallgaming4422]

@@PenNamedhow’s it been? I’ve been considering switching for years at this point

[@trusttheprocess5618]

@@marshallgaming4422I’ve heard nothing but good things from them. Just make sure to check if your area has good coverage or else you’ll have a bad time with calls or internet. It reminds me of a better boostmobile plan.

[@berkin88punk]

Deadpool written by smart people, she hulk is written by stupid people

[@JustAnd13]

~ Drax, probably

[@metalanarchy5186]

​@@JustAnd13ven worse the people who came in and stole Rick and Morty and even though they still make a good episode every once in awhile that show has went downhill in a big way it went from one of the funniest and best written shows on T.V. to a very inconstant show and it will get worse and worse now that the original driving creative Fore Justin Rolland got forced out

[@Yeovx]

Maybe no stupid, but clearly had no idea about writing super hero action, comedy or anything about lawyers. The last one was specially noticeable because Better Call Saul was still releasing new episodes.

[@Lidoe]

@@YeovxAnd ironically they chose the better call saul writer for Echo instead of this show

[@DenkzzXD-r5y]

She Hulk writers would be offended if they could read

[@samdelongforgeeks]

Ryan Renolds said it best: Deadpool only punches up. He always makes fun of himself, and never at the exspense of other hereos, and especaially not the audeince, who She-Hulk is more than happy to blame, preach to, or talk down to.

[@designationc6042]

Deadpool is one of those rare trilogy’s where all of them are great, all three have incredible Jokes, hilarious side characters, and epic fight scenes but each movie is different and keeps things interesting while at the same time not making them so different it’s confusing. One of my favorite things about Deadpool is that he makes fun of himself just as much as he makes fun of genres and other heroes. It’s one thing to make fun of others and value yourself but to make fun of your own flaws and bad moments as much as others is humble but also incredibly funny

[@dragb9284]

That’s the difference between sincere and not the willingness to acknowledge your flaws and still move forward in a not so perfect way.

[@mantara100]

All Three are great? i really thought part two and three sucked. i only really enjoyed part 1. I´m 50 years old. grew up on Marvel and i really enjoyed She hulk despite it´s flaws (especially the ending sucked.)

[@rollwithflow]

Yeah you have good taste ❤❤😊🎉 very true comment ❤

[@Irelynn-vv8fu]

Disney ruining another female superhero and expecting people to love it The only two standing female superhero’s are black widow and Wanda, and black widow doesn’t even have powers.

[@mencibenci]

black window is just the token hot girl, someone without literally any superpowers or special talents being part of the avengers is… a stretch. she’s obviously there for eye candy.

[@richborn6700]

Black Widow isn't standing she been dead over five years now

[@purevessel4506]

At least we have Gwen in Spider Verse now. She’s actually well written and nuanced

[@Irelynn-vv8fu]

@@mencibenciI think if she was they’d put her in a more revealing outfit or smth, and she got her own movie and has a nice backstory

[@Irelynn-vv8fu]

@Based_Gigachad_001ye but at least she has a better backstory and not a extremely hatable personality

[@HavyzNyx]

Because we associate twerking with prostitutions and bad educations. Where deadpool is pure dark humor , mocking everything thats deemed unworthy of respect.

[@ironmaster6496]

She hulk has literally the personality of Shatterstar and the lack of self awarenes of Nicepool, and we are still suppossed to find her likeable, that's the problem

[@Mr_Sorus]

0:35 perfectly summerised, I also watched it cause of Daredevil 🤣🤣

[@Kaki_rembat46]

Me too man and they made a joke out of him 😢

[@elizabethkunichika4623]

Me too.

[@slosubies4845]

Me too. I was eager to see Charlie Cox back in the role and in the OG red/yellow suit.

[@tharoz6406]

Deadpool was written by competent writers, She Hulk, was not. That's it. No conspiracy, no deep hidden meaning, just the difference between competent writers and those who aren't.

[@Sunkisser101]

That Megan the stallion scene was so fkn cringe I could not even believe the whole thing is real

[@avacherubin4749]

Exactly. I like Megan but, just…why? 😂

[@Omegeddon]

Its amazing people cried so much over a 10 second post credit scene

[@NIDELLANEUM]

@@Omegeddon Yeah, right? At a certain point it was funny though. You had fully grown adults crying on the internet for days because "She Hulk twerked with Megan Thee Stallion" like it was a huuuuge issue that needed to be dealt with

[@linkandshiek5522]

@@Omegeddon It's amazing people cried so much over people criticizing that scene

[@Omegeddon]

@@linkandshiek5522 Because there was no criticism it was all people crying over her twerking like she's not the character who in the comics jump roped naked and bangs every male hero in the brand

[@Soulintheshadows]

2:39 this reason alone was why I didn’t care for she-hulk, it hurt seeing Banner put down

[@FishingWithFitz]

I respectfully disagree about the blade comment. I feel it was Deadpool looking at Disney saying “Yeah I just backed you into that corner”

[@mustafaozturk2542]

That was just a hint to the producers about what they had to surpass in the new Blade series. Because the old Blade series has lots of fans.

[@nicegoatdoctor8224]

*Comic* She-Hulk is amazing! She’s funny, sassy, flirty, and strong! I cannot believe how badly they fucked her up so bad!

[@TheHulk1850]

She is not strong and not really funny in the comics either, dunno what the fuck you people are talking about Lmao

[@KaiHouston-m6j]

They drank a big ole glass of "The Message".....

[@tartatovsky]

​@@TheHulk1850compared to the d+ series? Its like comparing a puddle to the milky way

[@TitanBolt99]

​@TheHulk1850 She is funny and stronger than a couple of heroes in the comics. For someone that doesn't like She-Hulk, then why do you have a photo of her as your KZbin icon?

[@buragi5441]

@@KaiHouston-m6j I am 100% not the only one hearing The Drinker say that in my mind.

[@wondercove]

Simple. Deadpool’s character actually had development. We got to see him from the very beginning and understanding what happened to him. We’ve been with Deadpool longer and we love him. I watched She-Hulk and the writing was lazy and she had no development whatsoever. She got powers from Bruce and she was just better than him in every way with no effort or explanation. She-Hulk was never faced with stakes or some kind of defining moment. Even though I enjoyed both its because I went into She-Hulk expecting it to be a joke in a way, so for me it was a fun sh*tty movie, simple.

[@jaedynstjuste1708]

Even after Deadpool got his healing factor in DP1 he still wasn't ultra confident in himself as an Anti-Hero. He literally just had the realization in D&W that he was always good enough and didn't need the Avengers to validate himself

[@TanvirAhmed-bz2ox]

@@SirsasthNigam.are u a bot

[@Omni.JP4]

yap

[@racool911]

Ok this is a lie, did you quit shehulk after the first episode or something. Her development is very clear and she's definitely faced with stakes. She just doesn't have a tragic backstory like Deadpool does. Think of when she went crazy at the courtroom, after telling Bruce that she had her emotions under control.

[@mutantdevle]

@@racool911 Yeah. She-Hulk's main character flaw is that she is over confident. Throughout the series we see her proven wrong and humbled many times. Pretty much everything Bruce says is proven right and she comes to accept by the end of the series. She has to publically humiliate herself in court, falsely accuses the fashion guy and only redeems herself with him through lessons she learns with Daredevil, and goes through a very clear character arc in the therapy circle episode. I feel like people just expect characters to go from low confidence to high confidence. But She-Hulk never needed MORE confidence, just her TYPE of confidence needed to change and by the end of the series it does.

[@Nostalgia-Gia]

she hulk kinda looks like green Michale jackson in this frame 9:21

[@QuantumQuill455]

4:58 That one rant alone is funnier than *anything* in the She Hulk TV show. Tell me I'm wrong.

[@S1mp1yzbetta]

Fr

[@BrickfilmPictures]

deadpool is written by writers she joke is written by activists

[@Ninja07Keaton]

If she were a "joke", she'd be funny.

[@exonymousprime]

The joke is it's called She Hulk and not Me Hulk the movement lol

[@liamphibia]

Yup, there it is.

[@toyanthaog5109]

Both have the same writers

[@IBESMusic94]

Activists have written some of the greatest works of all time. She Hulk was written by morons that don't understand she hulk. Actual activists would've made it funny with a message, like Black Panther or X-Men

[@krodmandoon3479]

Oh I got this one. It's because the Deadpool movies love and respect the source material and it's fans and the other shit hates both.

[@ziadkouroughli6485]

5- Deadpool had Peter while she hulk don't

[@purplespectre]

We all love Peter!

[@unspecified_identity3793]

the way wade time travel to save only peter killing me😂

[@amarson2322]

peter is a legend in every deadpools world

[@danielhizkia9169]

Peterpool for the win baby. Loveable in every deadpool universes

[@buragi5441]

@@unspecified_identity3793 As someone not really savvy with all the Marvel characters, what's the deal with that one guy who was chopped up by helicopter in the second movie appearing in the third one?? How is he alive, when Deadpool didn't even save him??

[@yesseniaayala2664]

When Wolverine told Deadpool, “You couldn’t even keep your stripper girlfriend,” lol 😂 😂 everybody was losing their shit at the movie theater.

[@FlorelaFTW]

That scene was not meant to be funny tho. Was the theather's collective iq sub 80?

[@yesseniaayala2664]

@@FlorelaFTW you must be a Brie Larson fan lol

[@VeraxMusic]

That was a great line meant to be a real blow, and it was delivered perfectly. But how the heck is that funny? You're saying your theater laughed? Unless you mean they were like "ohhhh shit!" Then I get it. But your emojis imply different.

[@VeraxMusic]

@@FlorelaFTW I'm at a loss for words for anyone would take that line as funny? It's more like, "oh, I can't believe he went there," which is what makes it a great line. I feel like only people below age 14 would laugh at that.

[@VeraxMusic]

@@yesseniaayala2664 I doubt it.

[@WarNvrChanges]

Wolverines reaction to Deadpool got me laughing a few times, especially when Wolverines states “ he died of murder you dumb f*ck!” Gets me every time 😂

[@mechajay3358]

Its clear that the people who worked on Deadpool films were fans of the comics while the one's who worked on the She-Hulk show were not.

[@NIDELLANEUM]

The writers weren't even aware of how to write courtroom scenes. Which is a weird thing to admit. House MD was a medical drama, and the writers weren't expert about medicines, so they hired an actual doctor to see their scripts and correct them. You're telling me they couldn't have found a lawyer to do this?

[@MrBrezelwurst]

@@NIDELLANEUM Half of Disney consists of lawyers with the way they sue people for every little reference to The Mouse™, they could've just asked their Tuesday lawyer or something

[@richborn6700]

For real Law and Order has been on 30 years and has multiple spinoffs. They can't steal a couple writers for MCU projects involving court proceedings? ​@@NIDELLANEUM

[@TitanBolt99]

They are not fans of Deadpool's comics... Deadpool in the movies is mostly nothing like the comics. They ruined him.

[@GUTS-vw7rs]

marvel after endgame is just so so but Deadpool is an exception

[@adityaadi2116]

Spiderman: NWH, GOTG 3, Shang Chi, DP & WV

[@angelobouras2786]

@@adityaadi2116 i wouldnt even say shang chi was good imo, but either way thats 3-4 good projects in 5 years

[@IVMZR]

​@@adityaadi2116NWH first half sucks, GOTG3 is called best of the worst and it's one time watchable barely, No one cares about Shang-Chi box office proves that, WV - good build up with shitty final episode.

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

@@angelobouras2786 It was cool but In terms of an origin story it was pretty weak. I liked the flash back stuff better and wish we got that movie instead. There was too much focus on Katie and his sister in my opinion.

[@mahad813]

@@adityaadi2116 Shang Chi and Wanda Vision sneaks🤣

[@jeffreyt02]

Dying at a totally unintended joke: Those who tried to be funny were Wong 😂😂😂😂

[@happy3798]

Why compare gold to a shit?

[@SOPHIA-LOVES-MEATBALLS-69]

Exactly 😂That's like ordering something good on the menu at a fine good restaurant and suddenly you change your mind and tell the chief what you'll be eating for today and you show him a picture of poop on your phone

[@theunknowncommenter725]

This is for very simple compare and contrast reasons.

[@zephwilliams3010]

2:19 I don’t think the writers thought about that when writing this show

[@ryanhiggins8869]

Are insinuating that they had any thoughts when writing this show?…

[@zephwilliams3010]

@@ryanhiggins8869 yeah, it’s kind of criminal for me to think that the writers actually did 😂

[@stephenmuza8344]

Well, it seems obvious the writers didn't know anything about the comics characters they were basing their stories on.

[@user-ip1ow7hf8c]

She Hulk; "I got cat called, hurr durr" Hulk; "I was exposed to radiation, abused, tormented, hunted, isolated, and abandoned" She Hulk; "Yeah but.. but.. but.. cat called and woman things"

[@karlluigi1987]

the problem with She Hulk, is that her character is not likeable, and all her jokes are cringey, atleast the live action version.

[@tomgames8616]

She hulk was a comedy show but the writers forgot to add the comedy and it was just a drama... which is fine. Legal drama shows works, just why not commit to the bit of legal drama show in the marvel universe, it could've worked.

[@genevieve7676]

The problem was that they try to hard to make female characters "relatable" instead of trying to make them fun or interesting. I don't want a female character who I can "relate" to, I want one that's entertaining to watch.

[@dark_night8268]

10:42 deadpool was bouchard by fox. Deadpool was loved by Ryan, who had to leak information to get the movie re-green lit after wolverine origins

[@HotRat00]

Because she hulk is like tryna touch people but its inappropriate, but Deadpool? He's your bestfriend thats already touching you.

[@ErichGrooms1]

It's sad that She-Hulk had better comedy writing in the late 80s / early 90s comics than the mcu version.

[@maharghjoshi228]

Wait she was supposed to be funny 🤨😬

[@rivivuel8188]

Yes? 😅

[@LamboFromWish]

Exactly, I thought that too

[@FreshhBoy95]

@@maharghjoshi228 I made the same comment as you did😂 I didn’t know she was supposed to be, maybe I’m missing something here. I thought She-Hulk wasn’t too bad, people just had too many expectations. It at least gave me some content to pass time by. Lol

[@GodSpeedTradesMason]

Shit was worse than a Amy Schumer stand up😂

[@tomgames8616]

The writers forgot the comedy part and just did the drama stuff.

[@yangqixu5120]

4:15 excuse me? I was 7 years old when I first saw this Deadpool and I LOVED IT l loved Deadpool even if I was watching it without them getting rid of the violent and swearing

[@Barot8]

She-Hulk was written to be self entitled, self absorbed, overly angry, and a completely non-likeable character. She thinks being cat called by men while crossing the street is so much worse than the trauma of witnessing your father murder your mother, which is Bruce Banner's back story from the first Hulk movie. Oh, yeah that's so much rougher. Gah.... What the hell? Also the marvel "creators" who worked on the tv show were completely inept. Twerking? Seriously? Stupid time wasting garbage.

[@justinguyos5476]

Also insults the Avengers and calls them nothing but Narcissistic Orphans. Okay, Narcissistic is one thing (and only Tony Stark can be described as that) but mocking them for being Orphans is way too far. The only thing She-Hulk got right is that she is not cut out to be a superhero. Because she would make a very poor one at that.

[@godevils1982]

Hollywood doesn’t make real comedies anymore, this is why it’s so popular.

[@megapeebs2631]

Also the fact that the song uses in deadpool is the same exact one that Wolverine said he hates in Logan just brings it more together

[@Team_Slacker]

Simple: Dp can be whatever he wants while She Hulk can't be sensational and witty like she's meant to be.

[@blonkasnootch7850]

Jennifer is written a bully. Just that.. That's it.. who likes bullies?

[@BlueWhiteBros]

there are actually some bullies that are likable, the difference is that those bullies are more than just bullies

[@theunknowncommenter725]

Captain America doesn't like bullies. He doesn't care where they're from.

[@ChloeWinchester0709]

Not me

[@danielhizkia9169]

Agent Venom or Flash Thompson was a bully. But he has a very good character development and I love him as a character.

[@sephence]

probably one of the biggest ways Deadpool's jokes work is from how they're layered, like the Blade joke works in a lot of ways because the MCU Blade is in development but ALSO because its in development hell with constant jokes abot it never releasing, adding another layer of "well he might be right" She-Hulk's jokes were the complete oopposite, going for a lot of simple and bland jokes that mostly only go over one way, there's less substance and layers to the show's comedy, even the Hulk joke, which was the closest, only really had that one layer, better matching jokes the quick jokes that are thrown out in quick succession in the first 2 DP movies like on which Professor X they're taliing about, its not meant to be a standalone joke, its simple and the writers knew that and followed up with more on par or better

[@vetarlittorf1807]

I think the main difference is that Deadpool has a more playful tone in its self-referential humor. While She-Hulk feels more like they're only trying to appeal to single women in their 30's. Deadpool feels like pre-cancellation Family Guy while She-Hulk feels like modern Family Guy. Plus, Deadpool's comedy is character-driven while She-Hulk's comedy has no rhyme or rhythm. Not to mention Deadpool is more than just comedy, it's also a story about a man battling between self-doubt and desire to be a part of something bigger than himself. He wants to be a hero, but he doesn't think he can be because he's too trigger-happy. What was She-Hulk about?

[@genevieve7676]

She-Hulk the show tries too hard to be "relatable" to adult single women whereas Deadpool is unapologetically himself, which ironically, resonates with me more as a thirty year old woman.

[@chrisl5582]

She-Hulk is quite mean to the other characters without any consequence. They just exist to make her shine. When Deadpool mocks another character, there's usually a pay-off : punishment, contradiction, surprise, etc... The side characters aren't bland, some of them have a goal or an arc. Colossus tries to educate Deadpool, Dopinder wants to be brave,... They also all have their moment of glory and Deadpool is often the dumbass (ex : when he mocks Domino's power while we see her being an absolute badass).

[@terencefletcher5139]

Nobody in the MCU could be as funny as Deadpool because he’s the only one who could break the fourth wall and make jokes about real life events

[@sjoerdderks4731]

there is also humor in body language and mistakes Deadpool in full suit moves like a cartoon, like when he discoverd Francis escaped the highway, looks back and front is just you can see what he is thinking. with mistakes is when he was about make an awesome entrance he realised he forgot the bag with weapons.

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

lol i remember all those people that liked she hulk defending it when people were doing this comparison on twitter twitter crazy

[@BrickfilmPictures]

"AcTuAlLy iT's CaLlEd X." ☝🤓

[@mrkaji8913]

3:09 is he from the boys

[@polyesh]

If your talking about the guy in the white shirt, then yeah he looks like Alastair from the boys

[@mrkaji8913]

@@polyesh yep

[@giyuutomioka6974]

Honestly, I have a feeling if she hulk were more empathetic with a bit of humor, she'd be more likeable. But atleast her show is better than the entirety of velma and the cats movie nobody watched.

[@dwrdwlsn5]

Fanatics make crap that fulfills their fanaticism. It doesn't matter if you are a sexist or a feminist if all you do is try to pound your fanaticism into people's heads. That said? I liked both. Both entertained me, so yes, that is BAD, WRONG AND EVIL! *shrug* I was entertained, so I couldn't care less what other people say

[@OllieGooney]

the only thing that would make me watch she hulk is velma

[@user-gl2nw4sx1m]

1:04 Deadpool is "sexiest man alive" in titles

[@GoldenGuard-909]

They’re not wrong though

[@CruiserDog-zd6ks]

If Sh-Hulk would have had different writers, producers, directors and lead actress, I think it could have been hilarious.

[@simpleton80]

From what i remember, she-hulk mocking its viewers. While deadpool mocking themselves

[@beatlefreak67]

I want Deadpool in the final avengers film *hopefully secret wars* and he breaks the fourth wall and says " we're done! For real this time!! Have some integrity Disney! Stop milking it!!! Stories should have a nice climax move on!!!! "

[@faboo2001]

I absolutely hated how people tried to defend the She Hulk show, saying people should love it as it was being "comic accurate" with it being more comedic in tone and breaking the 4th wall. Did people forget that execution matters??

[@shrekkek9396]

One of the main problems is that she-hulk's every character is a yes man/women or has very little place in the story. Deadpool 1 had edgy Francis and righteous Colossus, Deadpool 2 also had Colossus, serious trauma driven Cable and bratty Firefist, Deadpool 3 had serious and depressed Wolverine. He had people in opposition to his humor to bounce off.

[@tharilakshan3032]

Deadpool is GOAT🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@lennywright5655]

I’m tired of people saying Deadpool was a second tier character before the movies. Deadpool was a very popular comic book character in the 90s-2010s, yeah he wasn’t “mainstream”, but nothing in comics was mainstream before they made movies and TV shows, that’s the media the mainstream consumes!

[@anonym45]

Funny enough that Deadpool even jokes about Marvel falling off after Endgame in Deadpool 3 xD

[@ItsAVolcano]

She-Hulk also was notorious for the fact her transformation gave her a lot of her confidence, actively helping her career rather than sinking it and forcing her to work for the guy who did so. They made She-Hulk the weak insecure half so Jennifer could look more confident and self-assured.

[@GoryEyedBeast1978]

She-Hulk in the comics *was funny. That sad, man hate TV show was NOT She Hulk.

[@iliyakardan]

HUH!? 10/10 grammar💀

[@Patar15]

1:40 No he didn't say the STDs could have caused ADHD. In fact that's not how it works. No he said his potential ADHD could have caused him to get the very STDs that he does know about. ADHD can cause for you to get STDs because ADHD influences your actions. What actions? The actions that caused him to get STDs.

[@marquiseh5128]

she hulk was written by people who were so far up their own asses you could call them a reverse ouroboros

[@elisanchez1938]

One thing about She Hulk that nobody talks about is the “evil” group at the end of the show. And guess what the group was made of, men who are dumb, weak, and rude. For people who don’t know, this is most likely meant to make fun of the people who didn’t like the changes to Disney, Pixar, Marvel, and Star Wars. By calling those people dumb, rude, and sexist, which actually what The Marvels director call her audience for not liking The Marvels.

[@joem61]

Look. This is how it is. Deadpool talks to the audience. She-Hulk talks *DOWN* to the audience.