Why did I leave my F1 job? How did I get to work at Mercedes F1? | Q&A with Kyle

[@EngineeringExplained]

Great to have you back, and props for the discussion on work versus lifestyle. I think it's often overlooked, or not talked about, and sometimes people put additional pressure with the mentality of "yes but this is a crazy opportunity!" In reality, if it's taking a toll on your personal life, it's not always worth it. Great message, and thanks for sharing!

[@Dusijejdjjd]

I’ve learned most of what I know about aero from the two of you I appreciate the knowledge you guys are putting out there!

[@Lesics]

The king of automobile engineering is back!

[@michielvanstaden2698]

long live the king

[@brianhewitt7071]

Huzzah

[@maxwest2803]

Not only that he is now a world champion

[@rock3tcatU233]

This guy is holding more secrets he can't tell than a KGB agent.

[@F1UPodcast]

That’s probably true 😂

[@niklnik1008]

Only he's not going to get hunted by agents if he spills them. He'll be hunted by a swarm of mercedes lawyers. Which sounds much more terrifying tbh xD

[@blendings2912]

I came to a fork in the road and chose this path of the thread. 🕵🏾‍♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. You guys cracked me up

[@dsdy1205]

1:26 "I like a little bit of pressure" says the aero engineer

[@MaxSebastianMayer]

Underated comment

[@ablecoh4868]

Casually says got a PhD in Aerodynamics Thats huge and impressive by itself

[@RockSOCCER97]

Welcome back!! I would absolutely love to take your course, and do think the 1000$US price tag can be justified. However, I do feel like it is unattainable for a lot engineering students who would potentially be the ones getting the most out of the course. The add on system might be a good way to go about it. Perhaps making the basic introductory courses fairly inexpensive (~100-200$US) and the more advanced courses getting increasingly more expensive. That might draw more people in initially and get them hooked for the rest. Knowing your background and potential, it’ll be hard to stop coming back once they’ve got a taste. I know I wouldn’t. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

[@palmermonsen9098]

Thanks for coming back! I kept hoping you would!

[@Shadowdarknessone]

Wow. Did noticed that your back. Can't say how happy I am. I was genuinely sad after you where gone. Because your the only one for me that can explain complicated things for me to understand

[@egj1975]

Good for you. I had the same issue some years ago and took the same route as you. Today I have a work that stops at 15:05 and everything after that is MY free time. I earn less but I am 10 times more happy. I now have a life, hobbies and some ME time.

[@zachattack3ee]

The only drawback for me of a high-priced, extremely in-depth course is that it won't lead to any reputable qualification. It would help people who are curious and want to learn but not necessarily people serious about getting into the field professionally... Perhaps have a tiered system, $x low cost, high volume price model for the basics, getting started or seeing if it's for you, $y for the intermediate stuff, enough for amateurs to do some home-brew race car design, $z for a cut-down college or university course, enough to get you through your first day on the job?

[@BlogVomMax]

As someone whos currently in Formula SAE this really makes me reconsider my future plans. Cause as you say it is really time consuming and if the life of a racing engineer is like that I dont think thats quite the job for me. Thanks for the video

[@fpvsketchy9653]

Working for a race team takes over your life.. Great experience and great memories but don't expect much you time....

[@geoffmcwiggan2814]

Highly talented young man. Great communicator in putting he’s knowledge in Lehman terms. All the best to you my friend. Wish you where around when I was racing superkarts ! Kind regards - Geoff

[@xVexxSyndicate]

Hey kyle, as a fairly broke uni student managing a fsae teams aero , I would definitely buy the course, would hope that its no more than ~$500 dollars for the course just so my wallet doesn't go too ouch.

[@brandonb385]

I would gladly pay $1000 USD for your courses if you can include theory, applied examples (Motorsport/F1/FSAE situations) setting up simulations (CFD and code) etc. Much appreciated from USA!

[@mignik01]

If he can do CFD coding course, assuming it isn't simplified like vorticity - stream function, but solving Navier - Stokes equations numerically, he can charge $3000 no problem. How feasible it is, I don't know. When you start solving those, it gets real dicey.

[@Cherub1m7]

I would agree, he has a PhD. 1000 dollars can’t even get you one class credit these days

[@Nico777s]

​@@Cherub1m7 1000 would be more along the lines of half a lecture here in the US 😂

[@dhupee]

@@Nico777s on the other side of the world, that amount is more than enough for 2 semester in ID

[@matasmendelis1073]

Great to see you back! I am a mototsport engineering student and would like to buy your course to learn even more from experienced aerodynamicist, but a 1000USD is just to expensive for most students, including myself. I think by offering discounts for uni students and promoting this course to them you would deffinitely get enought volume to make it worth a discount.

[@Jeremy-fy1sz]

Well my M.Eng courses are about a $1000 a piece for online learning this term. If it's a really excellent 12 week course, I'd pay you the same. It's a lot, but I think I'd consider it. Just an idea, if you have consulting work that's too small/cheep for you, after completing your course you could have an option where we could have a go at it. (like an engineering fiver) Glad you're back.

[@LogieT2K]

Kinda crazy what the mercedes car has achived this year. Glad to have you back on yt

[@levidaniels585]

Charge whatever you want for your course. The free market will decide if the price is right

[@andyfreeman6865]

What prior knowledge should we attain before taking your courses? Should we be fluent in calc or is it going to be more theory rather than practical application?

[@KYLEENGINEERS]

Hi Andy, the plan more or less is that if you watch my channel regularly and understand it, you shouldn't have any problems. The course will build up from the fundamentals to the more advanced stuff. Hope that helps!

[@andyfreeman6865]

@@KYLEENGINEERS It definitely does. Will you dive into air flow through an engine or are you going to completely stick to body aerodynamics?

[@uv6er]

May be you could suggest suggested read books too? There are a lot of them out there... but not all of them are worth it.

[@simonyun1883]

Welcome Back !! I’m excited to see how the corse is going to be. I’m currently a first year engineering freashboi who love race cars, and I find aero a extremely fascinating topic. I don’t think I can afford 1000$ usd though :( but I’m sure your corse is gonna do extremely well, since your videos are better than all of my current uni course videos XD I just joined a FSAE team and I’d love to hear what you did in the team when you’re in FS. Looking forward to what you’re cooking up, good luck 😉

[@declanthiele]

I believe you should split the courses rather than build the whole thing for a high price. Start beginner at a set cost(100 or so) and then keep going up and if it makes sense to you, also increase the price. The volume of content should also be in relation to the cost as well I believe. If you go over a massive amount of content in the beginner level I think 200 or even 300 USD would be justifiable easily.

[@YowserUK]

Glad to see you back on YT. You definately could of gone into more detail of what you did day-to-day as an Aerodynamist in F1 without giving away inside information or breaking any NDA's. ie. Analysing WT run results and overnight CFD results, working with surfacers, designers and WT techs.. etc

[@juanmanuelcrespomarkovic9559]

I am so happy that you are back, just want to said hello from Argentina

[@marians8772]

I am super interested in the courses and want to refresh some knowledge from my Uni years, But in the current situation I couldn't justify 1000USD for something I don't work in anymore. 300 to 500 would be managable I suppose.

[@apt962]

Didn’t realize you’re from Sydney and back after an impressive career/stint in the UK! Once I get my race workshop operational in Wollongong will definitely be in touch! :)

[@BSport320]

Cool, we worked in Brackley at the same time. I was across the hill at Racing Point and I know what you mean about the lifestyle!

[@larkhill2119]

On your course price its worth noting that in the 80's I spent two weeks wages on 3 books to learn basic aerodynamics and design on race cars. Even with an areo engineering background. There was nothing free on you tube and no PhD's designing wing end plates. Something to consider and guide what your course should cost with today's wages. Slide rules and Si calculators cost around the same as most high end computers.

[@GoldenSlothRacing]

I agree with comments about compartmentalizing the course and releasing sections for the ~$300 mark. I'm happy to pay $1k+ all up but it'd be hard to stump up that much in one hit. Definitely do more videos like this semi regularly, gives great insights.

[@waynekerr67]

No problem with the 1k mark. Thats pretty par for the course for professional level motorsports seminars

[@jarentimmer9226]

I have no idea why I clicked on this recommend video but I'm extremely glad I did! I have a new rabbit hole it get lost down and can't wait to be apart of what is to come! 600-1000 seems perfectly reasonable for what you have to offer 🤘

[@MrRhubarbs]

don't forget he's doing all of this alone, for the amount of effort that's required for a full on course, his pricing is quite justified. we gotta support him

[@AWSim]

Very interesting video! I'm currently in my junior (3rd) year of my BS in Aero, also doing FSAE as well. Glad to see im on the same path that you took.

[@shnam13]

Hi Kyle, I got into F1 recently. Discovered your channel. I hope you can do regular content creation. Looking forward to your future vids!

[@lufeserravalle]

Hi Kyle! I am starting to work with aerodynamics in an Formula Student team and am really really interested in your course. Have you thought about doing bulk discouns? Everyone in my division has started working with aero because of you vids, and I pretty sure everyone is interested in purchasing your course

[@aidfawzal6943]

Hi Kyle, glad that you back. It is a great idea and good effort in doing the course. Maybe you can make like a stage or level where the first one for the beginner, say $400 and then step up from there. I think it would be interested that you can cover the fundamental, theories, some application and general tutorial on each stage. This way, everyone who has an interest can choose the best course for them based on their current knowledge, academic level, expectation and of course the cost that they willing to pay. Anyway, thank you for sharing with us about your journey in as aerodynamicist in F1.

[@eugenioacosta89]

HOLY CRAP THE LEGEND IS BACK

[@SpeedingEngineered]

For me a $900 straight up is unfortunately a lil high, I think $600-800 is more accessible. However, payment plans make it alot more accessible, anything over $800 with a payment plan sounds like an amazing deal

[@rlind911]

Glad to see you back active on KZbin, like to see more content on GT race cars. I race a M3 E92 have a splitter and wing but would love to improve the aero we have very few aero restrictions in my class.

[@TysonEngineer]

good to see ya back bud!, and well done with your achievements to date 👍🏼

[@dirklangohr]

Fucking finally some got news in 2020! I discovered your channel shortly after you announced your new job and was disappointed since it meant you wouldn't upload new videos. By now I watched most of your videos two or three times, you really sparked my interest in aerodynamics! Today I decided to head back to your channel to refresh my understanding of vortecis (Totally misspelled that, right?) and what do I see? You are back! That's awesome! Of course I left a sub for you :)

[@alanhillyard1639]

Don’t compromise the quality of the course to be able to bring the price down, I’m interested at the price you’ve stated.

[@mikepowers572]

Your brief description of the course for race car aero design being definitive and comments on around 1100usd pricing sounds very fair. Sure the pandemic has hit many people's wallets so maybe it could be broken down into modules to spread the cost over time for less wealthy students. Love the content and good luck with your expansion and future!

[@scottmeredith3359]

So the answer to all of these questions comes down to: “I got an education and graduated top of my class I worked very hard, sacrificed, worked more, and the opportunities came”. I suspect that many of the “how do I go straight from high school to my dream job” crowd won’t love that answer. Those of us who have taken similar paths in our own careers get it though. Thanks for the message about hard work, even if that wasn’t maybe the intent ❤

[@corywesterfield1867]

Really awesome to see you back!

[@abcdefghijlkmn1794]

Knowledge has its value and I think even tho 1000 usd is out of my reach at the moment, it probably is more than a fair price for such a high level of knowledge

[@250lmferrari]

Good, to see you back!

[@Muhluri]

He came back? Nice

[@jogu98]

I'm so happy, Kyle is back!

[@keven-matthewlarrivee-font2678]

Thanks for answering my question. Looking forward to the course being released. As far as price, I guess it really depends on the length of it. 500-600USD was what I had in mind but I’ll roll with whatever the price is.

[@matthewellul1259]

kyle; on mythbusters they did the experiment with the golf ball dimple design, covered the car in clay, did a comparison with and without clay taken out and seen some increases in speed with the dimples. have you thought of or heard of anyone else trying to incorporate this method into any of the car design or is it a forbidden fruit that is never going to be looked at?

[@horstgunther9521]

I don't think your courses should be too cheap. you always have to take into account the fact, that once anything is online, people will pirate and share it. so don't forget about the fact, you might find your videos somewhere on reddit or so.. great and informative video tho. great to have you back, keep up the good work :)

[@Route765]

Thanks for answering as much as you could

[@alexb2298]

Hi Kyle! I think I'd need to know more topics before being able to give a price. For me it's simply a hobbyist approach but I'd like to find out more for example about why the recommended expansion ratio of 5 exists for the diffuser and if it's to ensure not too much pressure difference and separation - and if so does it make it worthwhile running a higher ride height and a bigger diffuser etc Be great to have some coverage of the latest time attack cars again!

[@JLewisRacing927]

I'm very interested in the courses. I can afford something around the $500 US mark, but I wouldn't want you to short change yourself. If it's doable around that price point count me in!

[@SomeTenth]

Welcome back! You were missed!

[@dmddriftms]

Talk to hp see if you can team up with them that would give the high turn over make worth your time

[@antonimmo]

As a Latin American PhD student, spending (or investing) more than 700 USD/semester is a lot, as this is equivalent 1-month salary. However, I understand the caliber of a course like this one, so I'd make the effort to enroll.

[@za5611]

You should come by the RB lab someday!

[@-MacCat-]

So, the 'secret' formula to success is - be passionate, work hard and get out there and don't dismiss your worth to any company. Hopefully there are lots of clever young folk, watching this, with loads of potential that will take that simple advice on board.

[@EmmaHopman]

Assuming the aero course is up for a long time, I might take it in several years once I'm in college.

[@ianvital8834]

well come back I would love a lesson on burnuli's principle and how the lotus engineer cracked the ground effect and how can it be applied on a road car or a sports car. and also thanks for the informative vids as an aspiring automotive designer the lesson and vids you make give me alot of information regarding on designing the whole body of the car with that information all if all goes well I could apply it on the future.

[@uv6er]

Question/suggestion for future video: engine bay ventilation. Though I am not sure - is it your scope or not quite.

[@JT_Funk]

Interested in course as a lay person. The pricing is very dependent on content. Not opposed to $1000USD price point if very in depth and exhaustive. I guess seeing the syllabus would be helpful.

[@kwasg3]

Welcome back. This vid popped up but not the last two, even tho I am an early subscriber! ugh... so I may have missed the opportunity to submit a question or two - They would have been: Does Mercedes make you feel important to the effort, IE do you feel like a world champion? you are, just wondered if a super team does that aspect well. And, has the NDA prevented you from helping other pro teams immediately or in the future? As far as your courses go, If you targeted your average club racer engineer (like me) to get results that were quantifiable without a wind tunnel, and the price point was in line with other things I effort toward club racing, then I would be all in. $5-700 is very reasonable. $1100 would be trading a race weekend off, but still might be a value depending on the quality. Rote review of common concepts I would not be interested in, but actual discussion of principles and applications would be great... I will watch with interest how it all unfolds!! Thanks!

[@FixItAMIGO]

1000 is a fair very fair price, when I was a kid a saved such sum for a 🏍 bike. I worked the whole summer for it. Also recently I had some courses regarding law, just the basics of it mostly I need to read a book 📖 have practice questions online, it does come with exam, when passed it will earn me a certification. All of this costs me 1000 euro. So yeah 1000 is good deal. Some times you can have it payed in 3 terms. Also a good options 👌 there are company's that offer financing. Where the seller does not carry the risk if somebody does not pay.. Worth considering.

[@Left-Foot-Brake]

Welcome back, Kyle.

[@adamkuzanski4389]

If there is a problem with your private settings, why don't you change them for the course?

[@ericn7698]

USD 1,000 - 1,100 is perfectly fine for the kind of in-depth knowledge that the courses will offer.

[@aldozampatti]

My 2 cents on pricing, I would say that the midpoint between 100/1k should be the sweet spot for Volume/Income ratio. I would gladly pay 300-500 bucks. 1K would be a turnoff, but in my case, I'm just a curious geek with zero expectations of real-life applications on what I would be learning.

[@gonzluisd]

Oh please… “I can’t talk about it”, yes you can.

[@bwcordes]

You don't need the production value like you think. I'd be interested at the $100 that you mentioned. You haven't broken down what all it involves though. I've watched a few of the HPA videos, and frankly, I could read most of the info on the internet for free. Supply and demand states that you'll have a hard time selling information on the information superhighway at $1K USD.

[@BrodeyDoverosx]

Agreed. hpa was a waste of money imo, I didn’t learn anything.

[@hutchdw77]

It may be worth offering your courses through HP Academy for access to their audience of actively paying enthusiasts.

[@joaoruella]

Good news! Waiting your new videos! 🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@dannydts1501]

Oh shit he came back.

[@data9594]

As a controls engineer interested in F1, I will buy your course. Would you recommend a change into aerodynamics or should I stay as a controls engineer?

[@ryanchoucha772]

hello kyle, I'm so motivated to make the same path as you did, but I have a tiny question, is it better to earn a mechanical bachelor degree or aerospace engineering degree, it's practically the same but it may be different at some point, so which engineering degree do you advice me to take to become an f1 engineer? Thank you in advance.

[@fokjohnpainkiller]

I'm a mechanical engineer working my way into fluid dynamics. I would think your course would be priced lower, sort of like the engine building courses from "High Performance Academy" and fabrication from " ETS Motorsport Fab School". Closer to the 100 to 150 dollar price range. Given how your course is more specific about aerodynamics I, personally, would be willing to punch up to 200+ but any more and I just can't afford it. Quad digits sounds insane to me so... Anyways, glad to have you back making videos.

[@michelangelodrawcars5778]

Best anime comeback ever!

[@franciscosalust5435]

Dude, I live in Brazil and it is VERY expensive to pay $ 1,000 USA. To make a living in Brazil in normal time's is hard and now came the coronavirus to smash the economics is close to impossible. If you think about the social impact of keeping the price accessible, I think this is gonna be great. I think that I am not the only one under that circumstance.

[@XWMaster]

Hey you should team up with High Performance Academy!!! Like how they did with Nigel with ETS fabrication. It would be awesome to add aerodynamics to their ever growing knowledge empire, and it would offer you an unmatched amount exposure to all of their members, subscribers, and followers😁

[@jorehir]

Any tip on how to get started on aero consulting? More specifically: where should i look to get my first pool of customers?

[@hokhay]

Good to see you back. I wonder if Mercedes use OpenFOAM for CFD?

[@17473039]

The Return of the King!

[@callsignkasper624]

Really wanna join ur courses but damn my college fee for aeronautics is god damn expensive lol I’m doing aerodynamic with commercial pilot course

[@gilbertoandrescastanoriver4935]

You could try making the more general, introduction courses the cheaper, and the more advanced specific ones that cost more, this way you get more people interested, and if for example i pay for a cheap course and i see it´s worth it, (i know it will, i am speaking of platforms, quality of content, that i know you can give), then it would make more sense to me to make a bigger investment in your courses.

[@drivelogic3841]

welcome back ~!

[@SStirling070]

The course pricing over or near $1000 USD would be a dealbreaker for me. That said I could see myself paying the lower spectrum of what you indicated. Would you offer the entire course for one price or would there be beginner, intermediate, and advanced modules? Personally, I am not an engineer by background and haven’t done any meaningful math calculations in well over a decade. I would really been looking to learn information that I could easily apply to a club level racing car; similar to what HP academy did with their motorsports wiring courses.

[@Zohar-Modifier]

Gordon Murray's courses is free:)

[@CarsandtheirParts]

How do you think we all feel in the UK, we have to live with that weather 😂 as for the daylight I didn’t know it was any different elsewhere in the world

[@sentindodavida]

i would like to see a 500 less price, in brasil the exchange rate is like 6 to 7x the usd. I guess for worldwide community, some students would love to do course.

[@craigxfleming8806]

This channel is fantastic.

[@tommyhunter7313]

Your into sounded like you were doing an impression of Chris eubank 🤣

[@iggihk]

Welcome back

[@gtpal29]

Welcome back champ love from india

[@jamaisvu2664]

A course worth purchasing!

[@Cherub1m7]

I think if you were able to get some sort of official certification for completing this course it would definitely be easier to spend $1000

[@marczamp4737]

Kyles back!!!! :D

[@TheRealMrMMG]

"F1 Teams know how to throw a party"

[@KEEPINITRIL]

Hes back!

[@jancko995]

Do you have knowledge to talk about the DPF (filter) ... There's a saying that, if you don't wish to clog the PDF you should drive aggressively.. I'm am of an opinion that driving aggressively is going to clog the filter sooner, that driving the car gently.