WHY DID JAKE PAUL & MIKE TYSON BREAK RECORDS? A DEEP DIVE INTO THE EXPLOITATION OF PAUL VS TYSON

[@SelinaMeyer4U]

Yeah that’s what Jake Paul THINKS he did. He’s washing his impurities with the sport of boxing. I saw ZERO tweets, posts, stories about the undercard from normies/casuals. ZERO. This is the Super Bowl, the Finals, World Series, Stanley cup, even the damn Wrestlemania of boxing. This is normie bandwagon central, where boxing gets to have its day in the sun. This is the family of viewership it receives, so thus this is its ambassador. It’s gross, we’re the worst kid in class. Us applauding Jake Paul lowers the bar. Have Jake Paul make me Canelo Benevidez and share the spotlight with true champions. Then we will talk. He’s giving you want you want in terms of there is a McDonalds on every corner and we prove to everyone as Americans how gross we are. This isn’t about “my uncle” fighting. Mike Tyson is already beloved, forgiven and paid. None of us needed this. This is gluttonous.

[@marklark9486]

So we gone act like we all didn’t watch wrestling growing up

[@SelinaMeyer4U]

@@marklark9486 I didn’t. But if you want to talk about Wrestling, when it got its most viewership, it made in house celebrities and knew how to build characters and “fights”. That what boxing needs to do right now. We don’t need gimmicks.

[@thetruesquad5059]

I didn't ​@@marklark9486

[@EdwardoZ]

Normie/combat sport casual here. I give 0 f's about the undercard and this will not motivate me to watch boxing. Actually i did watch some canelo fights and was immediately bored - but at least could respect what I was seeing. The argument about "what we need" is justifying MVPs clown show.

[@AndroidAndroidNumber]

That’s your own experience. I had random casual non boxing fan friends and co-workers texting me about Serrano + Taylor. It also trended high on it’s own and went viral. Not to mention the 50M homes. It did like 100x there last fight. I really don’t see how this isn’t something extremely positive.

[@derekvincent4158]

Because the sport of boxing hardly ever makes fights anyone wants to see. Hardly ever competitive. So people settle for spectacles and intrigue.

[@ahmadfarrall2097]

Spot on

[@rc_matic]

@@derekvincent4158 this event drew in the general public who don’t care about boxing nor understand the problems with the sport. On top of that, the fight was essentially free. Viewership had very little to do with “settling”

[@KINGTERIK]

Welcome to the shitshow. There's no turning back. We are living in the movie Idiocracy

[@louiematarazzo]

I love radio man, so glad you got him on the channel, yall work perfect together

[@BryanSwanSQLServerBI]

People need to call out the fact that this was the largest betting sports scam in all history. Over $500 million were wagered on this fight globally and Tyson threw 60% less punches than his Roy Jones fight with half the accuracy. No drug testing was conducted and limited medical tests, Paul wasn't even licensed to fight in the state.

[@brianvelasquez1309]

Dude's overthinking it. I tuned in for the undercard only

[@roscoestark6589]

Sean, You hit the nail on the head with the opening statement. I 100% agree with you.

[@flxsemi]

You guys have the Mora-Mannix dynamic that I love to listen to. I listen to Mora (ala Sean) for apt fight breakdowns, but for measured boxing business takes and perspective I listen to Mannix (ala Radio.) Keep it up.

[@TheSmokeReporter]

I can see and really appreciate both of you guys perspective. I hope Rahim is right, and the long term results are for the better of the sport. I’m a dad of young men and I have watched the popularity of the sport slowly grow amongst my son’s peers since the arrival of Jake Paul. Many of them have taken interest in discovering new fighters and even training in the sport as well. Boxing is actually one of the most popular forms of fitness today. So people are taking interest in it one way or another. I hope the sport isn’t bottoming out as Sean suggests is possible, but I can see why he thinks so. Again hopefully it all works out for the better. As a father of a young fighter conversation like these help me to think creatively in order to innovate new ways to promote my fighter. Thanks fellas‼️👏🏾

[@AH2andBeyond]

I like my man Radio Rahim...he truly gets it.

[@DCFPhilly]

lol. I feel like these two guys have over complicated this whole thing. It’s not that deep. Fans that don’t watch boxing thought the main event was going to be fireworks. Fans that watch boxing on a regular basis knew that a 58 year old Tyson had no business fighting; he was a shot fighter over 20 years ago. True fans knew the main event would stink. It 100% stunk. I feel like Rahim is being some philosopher and over complicating something that isn’t complicated. He was complicated before the fight and definitely now. The first fight of the night was trash and the main event was trash. Shu Shu, the women and Barrios vs. Ramos was solid.

[@snowman1886]

No being deep about it. Paul just grabbed on people’s attention strings with some simple tactics. I mean cmon, it was Mike Tyson fighting and they did some good build up to the lackluster fight

[@thetruesquad5059]

Radio rahim and Sean link up?

[@rc_matic]

You guys philosophizing waaaay too much with the politics and symbolism. The answer to “why did we watch” is so obvious. Netflix has almost 300mil paid accounts and advertised the fight for weeks. The Paul brothers have a massive following and prophetic marketing instinct. Tyson brought the legitimacy, nostalgia, and legacy. The cowboys stadium brought familiarity and prestige. Many stars in attendance. But most of all the fight was essentially free on the largest, highest quality streaming service. This talk of idol worship, race, politics… that’s material for college essays. The truth is this was a master class in marketing for an event that brought a bit of fantasy/hypothetical to life. “Could we see a glimpse of the old Iron Mike?” This theme is so timeless and ubiquitous- can the old retired “hero” return to old form once again. Taken, Kill Bill, John Wick, The dark knight rises, the incredibles, the pianist, Gladiator…

[@samueldavis5895]

Why? …because it wasn’t really boxing. JP is not a boxing show it’s a circus. JAKE says it’s boxing but it’s not. It was just a show with two names and it’s not up to boxing fans who watches the circus. So casuals who want to watch a circus tune in.

[@Erwin_AMS]

Interesting discussion

[@Panamaniax507]

People who tuned into this fight don’t know or even remember anything from the undercard People don’t even know who fought in the comain everyone just says did you see that girls eye? They don’t even remember her name.

[@frantheman4597]

We watched because it was free with your Netflix subscription. Please believe that nobody would’ve paid for this fight if it was on pay-per-view.

[@zorotarded178]

This part exactly 😭

[@caleb6590]

Good point

[@loosie.goosie]

I get the sentiment, but it's not realistic to think that it wouldn't sell unfortunately

[@zorotarded178]

@@loosie.goosie no it is because he hasn’t scratched a million….. his gate also didn’t beat out Ryan and Tank. Why are you dudes calling so much for this circus????

[@loosie.goosie]

@@zorotarded178 I’m not calling for the circus I’m just pointing out that not only is the circus already here, it’s been here. Boxing fights like these have always had a place since before there was even TV. The only benefit I see of this event is that it helps some people recognize that they have been worshipping false idols.

[@Mo3Reacts]

“Enjoy your turkey Amanda” 🤣 is comical

[@nootha]

Instead of complaining about it and giving it light n energy, ignore it and let's talk about Amanda vs Katie and Barriors vs Ramos. U gotta blame urself 4 giving it attention

[@edwardrhodes1518]

Don't refer to the Tyson-Paul fight as Boxing! Brand it 'Fox-ing.' Position to conform. And all will be fine.

[@FRESHBX]

*Because Boxing is a popularity contest disguised as a competition.*

[@AndroidAndroidNumber]

Shu Shu, Green, Badhi - the undercard has over 10M views as of now combined between Netflix Sports and MVP. That’s all “real boxing”

[@vansmoken4172]

I think it just because everyone has Netflix on their phones and mike Tyson is famous. That’s it. This year was lit in boxing. Mad upsets all year

[@teacherlynn671]

I never agreed that this fight was a good thing and I worried for Tyson. But I thought it would be competitive. But on fight night, pre-fight, Tyson seemed different, not mentally clear, and winded, out of breath. Being older, I know how that feels. Then his legs didn’t work. Something was wrong. I hope he didn’t have a heart issue. No More Tyson Fights….

[@yanassi]

There’s something in the air, too many have joined populism …in sports and politics.

[@JordanSheppard13]

Now andre ward carl froch tony bellew all wana fight Jake coz its big money . Jake only wants smaller guys or UFC fighters

[@itsmedaley]

I have friends here that really thought this fight was real boxing and they both are at the top... Let's not continue this crap because I think it hurts boxing more than it helps it... Heck even the undercards were not given the spotlight enough

[@0MR.T]

Rematch with David Benavidez!!!!!!!

[@jonathansolero7]

I don’t think the sociopolitical angle matters much here. The name Mike Tyson is iconic worldwide-it’s instantly tied to destruction. Pairing that with Jake Paul, who’s huge on social media, naturally gets people interested. Even if folks don’t know Tyson’s age, they know the name and see this as a chance for someone with Jake Paul’s villain image to finally get taken down. Tyson was a massive draw back in the day, just like Mayweather, who played the villain role and broke ppv records, especially against opponents seen as real threats. This is the same formula. Add Netflix’s reach and the fact that it wasn’t pay-per-view, and you’ve got something that connects generations with two of the biggest names around.

[@kevinholmes6948]

I seen Tyson training videos was impressed and thought just maybe at 58 he could catch jake Paul with it being free on Netflix is why I watched

[@USeeMe2012]

We watched because we hoped we’d see an unscripted fight. Nope! Tyson comes out with knee protection and looks 78 after round 2

[@Manofhonor1]

Mike Tyson name still holds a lot of weight... He is looked at as this demigod... The pinnacle of strength and speed ... And jake paul is one of the most popular KZbinrs turned boxer. It was a recipe for success to a lot of ppl

[@bobbysworld-z7z]

Rahim finally understood about the Paul brothers who are great salesman, actor, comedian, manipulator, liar, hypocrite, clout chaser, psychopath, egomaniac, mastermind to whatever product they are selling to foolish people! 👏

[@tttyk-uh7nb]

Bro trying way to hard with the political analogy you tried not bringing up trump bringing amber rose for a speech but bring up the other 304 to fit your narrative 😂 the whole thing pathetic both sides is a clown show keep it honest 😂 Mike Tyson is unc just a retired boxer who is chilling straight legend took the fight because every og feels they still got it 😂 you ever seen those ol heads with there cheeks and thang all out in the locker room ? Gym or pool locker I remember lmao with my friends when I was younger at that shi😂 they don’t give a f 😂Don’t ever compare uncle Mike to a politician again because of that 😂 “I don’t view Mike any higher then them “ is pretty much what bro said what tf are you talking about😅 super disrespectful politicians are snakes.

[@Erwin_AMS]

I think: He was still sick or recovering and instead of waiting 6 mnd or so he thought fuck it do the grab and if i feel like it in 6 months i could do perhaps a rematch of something. Of be in some other event :)

[@dwharton8983]

I'm so glad I didn't watch this yes! Thank goodness I don't have Netflix

[@walt350z2011]

AMERICAN boxers don't fight each other.. Its that simple

[@Organic_Lindo]

Respect to Sean’s knowledge of boxing history and I don’t care what Zittel’s political choice is but 1) to act like Trump pacifying hate against particular groups / Tyson showing his bare ass vs Meg shaking her ass for Kamala is comparable is absurd and 2) calling Kamala “Camel-a” (never heard anybody pronounce that name like that, ever) is tone deaf as hell. Agree with Radio Rahim, Paul clearly didn’t apply more pressure when Tyson was dazed and confused in the 3rd round. Tyson gave Paul a chance by putting him on the Jones Jr vs Tyson undercard for his first ever fight. To think Paul was using some powerful Jedi mind trick is overthinking it.

[@three4ten_]

I watched for the card tbh

[@tonyh6438]

After two minutes, I had to turn this video off. Shawn talked too much.

[@mragr8900]

Whats wrong with Sean's eyes???

[@teacherlynn671]

I am sorry but I think you both are too harsh. I don’t think it was a sham. Come on Man. It was an eight round, two minutes per round fight with pillow gloves so you knew it was an exhibition. Tyson’s training clips sucked us in but being older I understand that things happen. I respect you both but you are not seeing this correctly. Something happened to Tyson.

[@malikedwards2180]

I think the ones that think jake is good for boxing can get financial gain.. to us fans that appreciate and love the sweet science and watch the top guys perform it like art, we want that imposter clown out of boxing. We have a filthy rich boxing clown on their high horse calling out and showing arrogance to the likes of canelo and the current kings of the sport and we are over it as fans. No other sport in the history of sport can this happen where a novice fraud can get so much lime light