Why Did Jesus Need to Suffer and Die Publicly?

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Desiring God

Desiring God

Күн бұрын

Ask Pastor John
Episode: 1816
Transcript: www.desiringgod.org/interview...

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@cheryl3895
@cheryl3895 2 жыл бұрын
Pastor John, this question was a gem and your response was like hearing and watching you cut a diamond. What a lovely teaching, thank you.
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
Do you believe people have to be baptized to be saved?
@ironman2326
@ironman2326 2 жыл бұрын
short answer: He essentially had to in order to prove that he is who he says he is, so there would be witnesses and the gospel could be spread.
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
Do people have to be baptized to be saved?
@the.seagull.35
@the.seagull.35 2 жыл бұрын
This is another good reason. If he had died in obscurity I would not be saved today. This way was by far the most effective path that God could have chosen to make Jesus known -- as contradictory as it seems to choose a cross to spread the name of a man across the world.
@PeaceFan1
@PeaceFan1 2 жыл бұрын
I Just have FAITH that THAT is How HE Planned it before the Creation of the World and Remember that " My Ways are Above your Ways and My Thoughts, than YOUR Thoughts " ...TRUTH!!! THANK YOU, LORD JESUS for dying to SAVE a Wretch like ME!!
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
Do people have to be baptized to be saved?
@IsaiahEli
@IsaiahEli 2 жыл бұрын
The Lord is coming!! Amen. God is merciful. He always forgives. Never be ashamed to take your failures to him. He is for you, not against you! God is with you in the storm. He knows your troubles, he hears you! He is for you, on your side, always! It may feel silent at times, but he’s holding you close! May the Lord return soon! We are drawing closer. He is coming! Believe and trust in the Lord, you will be saved. Period. May the Lord bless you all! Hang in there family. Stay strong. It is not easy following the Lord. We are scoffed at. We give up our earthly dreams, our fleshly desires. What the enemy offers is short lived, but heaven is forever! Life may seem or be unfair, but God is with you! Always remember that. Things may get better or worse for you, but a kingdom awaits you! Finish the race! Repent daily and carry your cross. This world is fading fast. Your troubles are temporary! New channel here, I’d appreciate any kind of support. Don’t give up! God loves you so much! So do I. The Lord bless you!
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
Do people have to be baptized to be saved?
@easybeliever7
@easybeliever7 2 жыл бұрын
@@Benjamin-un1wl Do you mean water baptism? Then no, we are saved by God’s grace alone through our faith alone in Jesus Christ alone.
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
@@easybeliever7 "Peter said to them, 'Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit'" (Acts 2:38). Acts 2:38 proves people have to be baptized for their sins to be forgiven. So Acts 2:38 proves people have to be baptized to be saved. Now do you believe people have to be baptized to be saved?
@easybeliever7
@easybeliever7 2 жыл бұрын
@@Benjamin-un1wl If water baptism is necessary for salvation, then why would Paul say the following in 1 Corinthians? “Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name. Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas. Besides, I do not know whether I baptized any other. For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect.” I Corinthians‬ ‭1:13-17‬ ‭(NKJV‬‬)
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
@@easybeliever7 The gospel is enough for people if they obey it by believing it and repenting and being baptized and being given the Holy Spirit. Just because Paul wasn't called to baptize people doesn't mean they don't have to be baptized to be saved. It just means people are called to do different things for the kingdom of God.
@camilleriggan9555
@camilleriggan9555 2 жыл бұрын
You are so right Pastor John. He had to show us how much He loved us and gave himself up for us. It was so necessary. It was fitting!!
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
Do people have to be baptized to be saved?
@xavierthomas5835
@xavierthomas5835 2 жыл бұрын
It is like the sun to our moon. For even as the moon shines with the light of the sun, so de we now, in Christ Jesus, shine with his light. Even as the light came before the darkness, even from the BEGINNING, so was it necessary that we, being his reflection in the darkness, should be created after him for him and have effectiveness through him.
@kathleenmoore535
@kathleenmoore535 2 жыл бұрын
JESUS= the WAY, the TRUTH, the LIFE. Only by the precious blood of KING SAVIOR JESUS am I given real, eternal life. JESUS IS LIFE. AMEN. ✝️🙏🔥📖❤️🇺🇸💙✝️🙏🔥📖
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
Do people have to be baptized to be saved?
@kathleenmoore535
@kathleenmoore535 2 жыл бұрын
….see…look at the thief on the cross. Our King Savior Jesus told him”today you shall be with Me in paradise.” “Believe on the LORD JESUS CHRIST and thou shalt be saved.” JESUS IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH, THE LIFE. No one comes to the Father but by Him. Holy Spirit shall reside in you when you are born again and come with repentance of your sins to King Savior Jesus. Amen. ✝️🙏🔥📖❤️
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
@@kathleenmoore535 "Peter said to them, 'Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit'" (Acts 2:38). Acts 2:38 proves people have to be baptized to be saved. "For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the violations that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. For where there is a covenant, there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it. For a covenant is valid only when people are dead, for it is never in force while the one who made it lives" (Hebrews 9:15-17). Hebrews 9:15-17 proves Jesus had to die for the new covenant to be begun. The thief on the cross was saved before Jesus died. So the thief on the cross was saved before the new covenant was begun. So he didn't have to be baptized to be saved.
@kevinperera18
@kevinperera18 2 жыл бұрын
Point 6 - From being equal to God, to becoming hung on a cross - for those who are hung on a cross are the ones who are cursed from God according to the old testament (Quoted in Galatians 3.13) Jesus showed that he went from the highest to the lowest... He leaves us no excuse... Fitting ruler - showed us how it is done. Praise be to the Merciful and Faithful High Priest. How amazing is that we have such an amazing God!
@xavierthomas5835
@xavierthomas5835 2 жыл бұрын
Hallelujah!!
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
Do you believe people have to be baptized to be saved?
@xavierthomas5835
@xavierthomas5835 2 жыл бұрын
@@Benjamin-un1wl yes
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
@@xavierthomas5835 Do people have to be baptized in the name of Jesus?
@xavierthomas5835
@xavierthomas5835 2 жыл бұрын
@@Benjamin-un1wl yes
@TheCreepypro
@TheCreepypro Жыл бұрын
thank you Lord for suffering the way you did to save us it is because of this that only you are worthy of praise let us never forget it
@deusx.machinaanime.3072
@deusx.machinaanime.3072 Жыл бұрын
Amen 🙏🏻 Jesus’s public sacrifice and suffering is indeed predestined, fitting, appropriate, suitable and an intentional sacrifice by God. 😇🙏🏻
@HearGodsWord
@HearGodsWord 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for stating some good reasons.
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
Do people have to be baptized to be saved?
@HearGodsWord
@HearGodsWord 2 жыл бұрын
@@Benjamin-un1wl guess you still haven't learned then, and still liking your own comments too 🤣🥱
@charless.9980
@charless.9980 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't HAVE to. That's the beauty behind our Lord and savior Yahushua:)
@rohithmathew1344
@rohithmathew1344 2 жыл бұрын
I request you to listen carefully to Pastor John's speech.
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
Do people have to be baptized to be saved?
@xavierthomas5835
@xavierthomas5835 2 жыл бұрын
He both has no choice and any choice he pleases. He didn't have to in the sense that our depravity has no part with his righteousness, but, like a child so desperately needs something it desires, at any cost, so was he unwilling to not have us. In this we understand that inasmuch as Jesus Christ is Lord, everytime we sin, and anytime.we sin, Jesus is right there offering the right hand of fellowship. He rates his own death 10/10, would do it again if it was actually an option. However, it has come to pass that he will not again die for the sins of the world because that same child hates being displeased more than anything in the world, and will, in its wrath, throw a tantrum that wrecks anything in its sight.
@charless.9980
@charless.9980 2 жыл бұрын
@@xavierthomas5835 It is always free will that allows for a love so perfect as the one our Father has provided. Yah bless you bro! May the Lord continue to bless and keep you in all your ways!!!
@xavierthomas5835
@xavierthomas5835 2 жыл бұрын
@@charless.9980 Thank you and may his blessings be your continual habitation.
@TheRealBertMoog
@TheRealBertMoog 2 жыл бұрын
Rom 3:25-26 (NAS), "Christ Jesus... *whom God displayed publicly* as a propitiation in His blood through faith. *This was to demonstrate His righteousness*, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed; 26for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus."
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
Do people have to be baptized to be saved?
@hurriyatjoseph1022
@hurriyatjoseph1022 2 жыл бұрын
It means that human suffering is planned from the foundation of earth . So why we ask GodAlmighty in prayer to remove my suffering . ???
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
Do people have to be baptized to be saved?
@xavierthomas5835
@xavierthomas5835 2 жыл бұрын
Because if God is willing to give his Son for OUR sins, how much more shall he not also give us all things whatsoever we ask?
@the.seagull.35
@the.seagull.35 2 жыл бұрын
His recent talk on "sustaining grace" helped me understand this point. God gives us grace _during_ our sufferings -- not grace to avoid suffering. He gives us grace to endure it for the sake of future glory.
@xavierthomas5835
@xavierthomas5835 2 жыл бұрын
@@the.seagull.35 Amen and God bless
@VicCrisson
@VicCrisson 2 жыл бұрын
Commenting for algorithm
@v.torres-amos9906
@v.torres-amos9906 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy to think that people freely Sacrifice their blood, their children, and etc idolizing false Gods or evil entities. God sacrificed for us.........that alone shows you where you want to be.
@sunnyjohnson992
@sunnyjohnson992 Жыл бұрын
Jesus had to die in order to settle an issue of universal importance. When Adam and Eve chose to disobey God, their rebellion called into question the rightness of God’s sovereignty, or way of ruling. Their sin also raised the question of whether any humans would prove faithful to God under test. (Genesis 3:1-6; Job 2:1-5) Jesus gave the most conclusive answer possible to both issues. By his perfect obedience “as far as death on a torture stake,” Jesus upheld God’s sovereignty. (Philippians 2:8) He also proved that a perfect man could maintain perfect integrity to Jehovah God despite the severest of trials. His sacrificial death opened the way for imperfect humans to have a good relationship with God and to be rescued from sin and death. Jesus’ death opens up to us the opportunity to regain what Adam and Eve lost-the prospect of living forever in perfect conditions on earth! (Revelation 21:3,4)
@anthonybruno8965
@anthonybruno8965 Жыл бұрын
Jesus died for the sacrifices to stop. Animals are sacrificed every day for nothing but taste pleasure. This is the epitome of greed. Jesus did not die for man's greed.
@Mrten-jg4qj
@Mrten-jg4qj 2 жыл бұрын
He didnt, a trick that why.
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
Do people have to be baptized to be saved?
@Mrten-jg4qj
@Mrten-jg4qj 2 жыл бұрын
@@Benjamin-un1wl They have to be qualified , even little kids, thats not the problem. The problem is whether are not you are elected.
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mrten-jg4qj So that's a no?
@Mrten-jg4qj
@Mrten-jg4qj 2 жыл бұрын
Its written why baptized your self for the dead. That bible has more contradictions, than fruit on a 5 gallon bucket. The book is not the way anymore. So you do not have to be baptized. But what ones have to do, is find out the real love of the truth. That holy bible is not the way anymore. And when it was, it was over 1000 years ago. So the answer is, know you do not have to be baptized. What they have to know is. Do God want them.
@the.seagull.35
@the.seagull.35 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mrten-jg4qj Ben is a troll, there’s no reason to talk to him unfortunately.
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