Why Did LOST iN SPACE Change?

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Dan Monroe / Movies, Music & Monsters

Dan Monroe / Movies, Music & Monsters

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@grahamgillard3722
@grahamgillard3722 10 ай бұрын
I was a teenager at the time. I saw something in the Will Robinson and the Robot characters that made the show a winner. And Penny was drop dead gorgeous!
@buddytesla
@buddytesla 10 ай бұрын
My favorite piece of “Lost In Space” trivia was finding out a while ago that Bill and Angela hooked up a few years after the show ended and almost got married.
@waynekaress5778
@waynekaress5778 10 ай бұрын
The change in Lost In Space in many ways paralleled the changes to Happy Days a decade later. Happy Days started as a realistic (and humorous) look at the 50's and later, to get better ratings, it became the Fonzie show. Fonzie and Dr. Smith had much in common with their roles.
@jstnxprsn
@jstnxprsn 10 ай бұрын
That's true too and is why I stopped watching that show, too.
@baraxor
@baraxor 10 ай бұрын
Good point. The show that inspired the phrase "jumping the shark".
@jeffschwehr6750
@jeffschwehr6750 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, Wayne! Happy Days' first season was the only one I cared for.
@GreggChapman-w6w
@GreggChapman-w6w 10 ай бұрын
Yes, they jumped the shark. Rather Irwin Allen did.
@miryamamar9471
@miryamamar9471 10 ай бұрын
The same complaint was made by "Star Trek's" co-stars, as Shatner carped to Roddenberry, that he wanted more screen time. Major script changes were routine. Nichols and Takei were very upset.
@pulsarstargrave256
@pulsarstargrave256 10 ай бұрын
Some of those Television execs from yesteryear look increasingly narrow minded and short sighted in retrospect. When I was a kid, the early episodes of "Lost In Space" scared the heck out of me.... but I LOVED IT! I was also watching "Dark Shadows" and the original "Scooby Doo, Where Are You?" for many of the same reasons: because a lot of kids like scary movies and shows! The goofier "Lost In Space" got, the less I liked it!
@movingkindaslow
@movingkindaslow 10 ай бұрын
I seem to remember the same thing sort of happened with Allen’s “Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea” series.
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 10 ай бұрын
That is very true :-) I've got some Voyage videos coming up :-) stay tuned, Dan
@jstnxprsn
@jstnxprsn 10 ай бұрын
True. If they'd installed seatbelts in the Seaview, the show would have SUNK due to boredom. LOL
@WillieBowen-w2d
@WillieBowen-w2d 10 ай бұрын
@@MoviesMusicMonsters I love Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea Tv series. I 💕 the espionage, Political And Ailen Stories. I didn't like the monster of the week stories in the 4th & Final season. The Terrible Leprechaun is the worst episode of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. Also Brand of the Beast ,The Mummy, The Terrible Toys , Savage Jungle Fatal Cargo & The Plant Men are also terrible episodes.
@flyingwombat59
@flyingwombat59 10 ай бұрын
ABC believed the audience for Voyage was boys. So seasons 2-4 evolved into a juvenile adventure. Thought the penultimate episode “The Death Clock” was trippy-hippy. 7:30 pm was for family shows. The WWII series 12 O’Clock High went from an adult drama to an action show, because ABC moved its timeslot to 7:30 pm and replaced lead actor Robert Lansing with the younger-looking but chronologically older Paul Burke. I am convinced programming decisions like this made this network consistently third-place in ratings until Jiggle TV in the 70s.
@johnwalzer9187
@johnwalzer9187 10 ай бұрын
As a kid, I was fascinated by the early episodes of "Space." But as it morphed into the "Will & Dr. Smith Comedy Hour," I stopped watching. Even an 11-year-old knew garbage when he saw it.
@greenbrown7776
@greenbrown7776 10 ай бұрын
Same here. I loved the early B-Ws and liked the attempts early in S3 at getting back to something a little more serious, but otherwise, count me out. Even as a kid.
@charlestaylor253
@charlestaylor253 5 ай бұрын
Actually, some of LIS's best and most memorable episodes were from Seasons 2&3. However, most of them were indeed crap...
@blondeboywilson9221
@blondeboywilson9221 Ай бұрын
I loved the Zachary Smith comedy hour
@folgore1
@folgore1 10 ай бұрын
Great vid! I had believed Jonathan Harris' claim that he hijacked the show by his scene-stealing antics. Your explanation makes more sense. As a pre-teen kid watching LIS reruns in the 70's, I absolutely loved the show! As a teen who started getting into Star Trek, I began to totally scoff at the silliness of LIS' color episodes. As an adult, I appreciate the show for what it was. A bittersweet anecdote that demonstrates the impact this show had: I was caregiver for my elderly father who passed away at 93. During the last six years of his life, my father suffered from dementsia/Alzheimers which of course wreaked havoc on his memory. Although a college professor during his work career in the US, he came from a modest background: a Sicilian farm family. One night, my father asked me if I had "fed the donkey" thinking he was back in his old home town in Sicily. When I explained to him the reality that we were in the US and we weren't living on a farm, he realized just how messed his memory was and he replied "I'm Lost in Space like Doctor Smith!" Of all the things that still remained firmly implanted in his fading memory....
@davidradich9342
@davidradich9342 10 ай бұрын
I was lucky to get to have lunch with Mark Goddard and Marta Kristen once. Very nice people, down to earth. They both had nothing but the highest compliments for Johnathan Harris. They said he was the nicest man they ever worked with. Lots of praise for Guy Williams as a professional. Marta Kristen and Mark Goddard were very nice too.
@richardranke3158
@richardranke3158 10 ай бұрын
I once met Marta Kristen and Mark Goddard at a convention. Mark was a little uppity, but Marta was very friendly and a pleasure to talk with. I even had lunch with her.
@davidradich9342
@davidradich9342 10 ай бұрын
At the time I met them, I was working at a foster home as a teacher. Mark Goddard was doing the same kind of work in Philadelphia. We talked shop most of the time. To me he seemed quite nice. Also working with kids at a foster care facility requires some bit of kindness. Maybe you caught the guy on a bad day. But yes, Marta was also really nice. @@richardranke3158
@78Mustang
@78Mustang 5 ай бұрын
Marta is very sweet
@georgeanthony7282
@georgeanthony7282 10 ай бұрын
is it just me... or is this narrator's voice just pure GOLD! 👍
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 10 ай бұрын
Haha, hey thanks so much :-) Dan
@Bond-ik1vn
@Bond-ik1vn 10 ай бұрын
"Last week as you recall....."
@skexzies3673
@skexzies3673 10 ай бұрын
I never understood it. Even as a kid, I was so disappointed when it de-evolved from a top notch Sci Fi show into a campy Sid and Marty Krofft pre-school comedy. The only thing missing was the talking flute.
@AlmostEthical
@AlmostEthical 9 ай бұрын
You might have been a more observant kid than me. I just rolled with the changes and didn't much think about it. When I look back, though, my favourites were early episodes like Hungry Sea, There Were Giants on Earth and Follow the Leader and the Keeper. My only complaint was with silly space versions of Earth - space pirates and Vikings. I was there for weird aliens monsters, not pantomime characters!
@bradleybuyer5541
@bradleybuyer5541 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Note that in the movie Lost in Space Gary Oldman played the sinister Dr. Smith - right up until the ending shot were he ran into the cockpit yelling "We're DOOMED!!" as a nod to the campy version of Dr. Smith on the TV show.
@TommyBBQBessinger
@TommyBBQBessinger 10 ай бұрын
I'm 62 ands a new subscriber. Loved this show as a kid. The dr. and robot together ws my favorite. Thanks for all the hard work you put into this channel.
@sunnyclimes4884
@sunnyclimes4884 9 ай бұрын
Dan, I love your impression of Smith. When my son was little back in late 90s we watched it regularly here in England and when I did the Smith impression he went into hysterics, he still does. Bungling ninny was another
@eugenelayton5231
@eugenelayton5231 8 ай бұрын
Smith went from an evil spy to a spineless jellyfish, all in one season. Oh the pain...
@kizmo2317
@kizmo2317 10 ай бұрын
Man, those first 5 episodes were awesome before the start of the slow decline into corporate marketing madness.
@jmfa57
@jmfa57 10 ай бұрын
This was my favorite show when I was a kid. Wednesday nights, 7:30, somehow remains special in my mind nearly 60 years later. Even then I regretted the change from serious to campy, but back then, kids took what they could get on network television.
@Alan-lv9rw
@Alan-lv9rw 10 ай бұрын
My favorite show as a kid. The Dr. Smith-robot dynamic was hilarious. And the aliens were interesting.
@jamesj7518
@jamesj7518 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate your explanation, Dan. I had previously believed the "compete with campy Batman" theory. The "kids' show" distinction makes sense, as my young boy's eyes looked at the show differently than my adult eyes. I just wish the show had stayed serious throughout its run and given more dialogue to the other characters. For example, when it comes to Judy, basically all I remember is her flirting with Don and being attacked by plants!
@tonyscates1884
@tonyscates1884 10 ай бұрын
I, like many others, loved the first season. I tolerated the next two seasons because I loved Lost in Space that much. On a personal note: I hope if there is ever a resurrection of the show that You do the voice of the robot! I was very impressed with your take on it!
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 10 ай бұрын
Hey, thank you so much :-) I appreciate the support. I would love to do the robot voice LOL :-) Dan
@ARWest-bp4yb
@ARWest-bp4yb 10 ай бұрын
@@MoviesMusicMonsters You do a pretty good Dr. Smith too!😂
@timothyirwin8974
@timothyirwin8974 10 ай бұрын
They did do a resurrections on Netflix.
@tonyscates1884
@tonyscates1884 10 ай бұрын
@@timothyirwin8974I meant if they ever bring back the original robot, I would like him to do the voice.
@ricwatt
@ricwatt 10 ай бұрын
Voyage to the bottom of the Sea had the same problem serious the 1st season campy when it went to color
@scottbolander8137
@scottbolander8137 10 ай бұрын
Dude, your voice is crazy good. Also, there was immense pressure from Jonathan Harris to be a campy villain, of which he played a bunch on stage.
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 10 ай бұрын
Hey, thank you so much :-) and yes, Jonathan was really good at playing comedic villains :-)
@behindthespotlight7983
@behindthespotlight7983 6 ай бұрын
As a kid watching it after school on weekdays all I remember are 3 things: 1. I loved the dark haired girl 2. Always wanted them to bust out the laser rifles and battle gear more often 3. Grew to utterly despise Dr Smith
@danieldamrick2330
@danieldamrick2330 10 ай бұрын
Jonathan Harris was also a voice actor on “Battlestar Galactica”, as Lucifer.💜😈
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 10 ай бұрын
Yes he was and he was awesome :-) I'm doing some Battlestar Galactica videos coming up this month :-) hope you had a great holiday, Dan
@baraxor
@baraxor 10 ай бұрын
"By your command."
@danieldamrick2330
@danieldamrick2330 10 ай бұрын
Yep yep yep, And every time he KNEW it would come back to bite them on the ASS❗️💜😈
@michaelbowling6185
@michaelbowling6185 10 ай бұрын
I faithfully watched Lost in Space when it first aired. I was 9 years old and had all the merchandise. However, I much preferred the first season even at my young age and became a Star Trek fan when the original series aired. I also enjoyed Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Time Tunnel, and Land of the Giants.
@thomaskalbfus2005
@thomaskalbfus2005 10 ай бұрын
You know Lost in Space and Star Trek have the same parent, that is the movie Forbidden Planet, the seeds of both shows are in that movie. Forbidden Planet has a flying saucer, a robot, an organization called the United Planets, the crew of the saucer in Forbidden planet is much like the crew of the Enterprise, they have a quasi military organization similar to Star Fleet.
@leerhode1021
@leerhode1021 10 ай бұрын
@@thomaskalbfus2005 Forbidden Planet has withstood the test of time, and it is still a very enjoyable movie, and it is well over sixty (60) years old.
@JoshMaxPower
@JoshMaxPower 10 ай бұрын
RIP Mark Goddard 2023
@neilborden772
@neilborden772 10 ай бұрын
I think the theme songs and opening credits played into the change as well. The first having more of a sci-fi scare to it and the b&w animated family floating in space on a safety line. Then the second being more upbeat and pop sounding, bright colors and the actual actors in the credits with their colorful, mod costumes. I love both equally as an adult. But as a little kid, I liked the 2nd opening more.
@stevecharman8420
@stevecharman8420 10 ай бұрын
Being in my mid teens at the time (and a huge Sci-fi fan), I was bitterly disappointed with its deterioration into crude pantomime and stopped watching the show. The fact that it only ran for three seasons proved that it was a short sighted decision to dumb the show down.
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 8 ай бұрын
Born Jonathan Charasuchin in the Bronx to Russian-Jewish immigrant parents, Harris adopted the stage persona of a classically trained British actor. And that is just cool!
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 8 ай бұрын
Yes it is!
@mohamad-ms2pb
@mohamad-ms2pb 2 ай бұрын
Did a good job of getting rid of the NYC accent, if he had one.
@jayducharme
@jayducharme 7 ай бұрын
That was an interesting analysis. I never thought about the time slot it was in. But it seemed as if all of Irwin Allen's shows (like Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Land of the Giants, Time Tunnel) started off with serious intentions and gradually veered into campy fantasy. Maybe it was hard to find enough writers to crank out 26 "serious" episodes each season. I read where the writer of The Great Vegetable Rebellion had simply run out of ideas. BTW, all of the interviews with Jonathan Harris are priceless. He was quite a raconteur.
@chrisw6164
@chrisw6164 10 ай бұрын
Lost in Space reruns always came on after the morning cartoons in my town, so I watched a lot of it as a kid. It’s true that the early episodes had a lot of tension and seriousness, but it leaned into Dr. Smith’s antics after a time. Always entertaining 😂
@Tazzman225
@Tazzman225 5 ай бұрын
The voice of the robot, Dick Tufeld, was used in the opening of Lost In Space, The Time Tunnel and even, Peyton Place. I remember my mother sending me out of the room when Peyton Place came on.
@hephzbah1130
@hephzbah1130 3 ай бұрын
Wow! I’m glad you mentioned that! I was sent to bed on the adult stuff too. I’m from the Seattle area. Star Trek came on at 9:00 pm. It was DEFINITELY beddie by at that time. I couldn’t watch it until reruns in the 70s😢
@loumitch1
@loumitch1 4 ай бұрын
One of the best parts in many episodes was hearing Dr. Smith scream in fear. Priceless. I also got a kick out of when the Robot sometimes laughed at Dr. Smith. Too funny.
@RabbiSteve
@RabbiSteve 10 ай бұрын
Nice video. Thank you. As I said in a reply to another comment, as a kid I actually preferred the earlier B&W episodes, with the darker tone, with that earlier theme, though I have come to like both, in more recent years.
@Scotta0
@Scotta0 8 ай бұрын
Great analysis. I watched those shows as a kid and wondered about the change. A similar thing happened with Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. The first seasons were more serious and then the campy space clowns started in. That giant whale episode scared the bejebus out of me. The newer color season intro theme song was my favorite though. I got my folks reel-to-reel tape recorder to record it and played it over and over.
@quint150
@quint150 9 ай бұрын
The same thing happened to Man From Uncle. I remember Robert Vaughn dancing with an ape in a treehouse. I've always considered it the Batman effect.
@pedrofernandez8729
@pedrofernandez8729 9 ай бұрын
It went from a sci-fi series, to the Dr Smith and Will show.
@frglee
@frglee 9 ай бұрын
I'd say the 'Dr Smith, Robot and Will' show. A perfect triple act. The rest of the LIS cast basically just faded into the background, and apparently they were not too pleased about it - but I guess they just kept getting their paychecks season after season, and were not doing anything too demanding, so just shrugged their shoulders and kept quiet about it.
@folgore1
@folgore1 8 ай бұрын
@@frglee "The Evil Triumvirate" as I think of them now! LOL
@fiddlefaddle1
@fiddlefaddle1 10 ай бұрын
I was ten years old when Lost in Space out and I was in seventh heaven. I loved the show but, I quickly left it when it became a fantasy farce. It may have been a kids show but, not all children are immature during adolescence. I'm nearing seventy now but, I haven't lost the kid in me. Remember, growing old is mandatory but, growing up is an option!
@radicalross7700
@radicalross7700 9 ай бұрын
When I watched Lost In Space reruns as a kid, I saw the second and third seasons before the first. When I saw the earliest episodes, especially the pilot, I was shocked to see Dr. Smith and the Robot out to KILL the Robinsons and Major West! It felt like I was watching a different, darker show. I wondered "How could the Robinsons let this murderous duo travel with them on the Jupiter 2?". Actually, "murderous duo" is present-day me talking, 9 year-old me just thought those two were really, really BAD! How can this be? At the very least, the Robot should have been dismantled or reprogrammed and Smith should have been put in a freezing tube. Instead they were treated like part of the family, albeit Smith was treated like an annoying ne'er do well uncle like Joe Carson in Petticoat Junction.
@AvCAnothervapeChannel
@AvCAnothervapeChannel 10 ай бұрын
Great breakdown of the change in direction Dan.
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much :-) Dan
@hungfao
@hungfao 10 ай бұрын
I used to note a pattern with nearly all Irwin Allen series from the 60s. They start out great and then erode into silly. I recall really enjoying most of the first season of 'Lost In Space'. The darker tone of the show as well as straight science fiction scripts appealed to me. I even had the Aurora robot and cyclops model kits. I lost interest in the show when it became silly. The same with 'Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea'. I never gave the others much of a chance because of this. But I imagine TV shows succumb to network execs like this all of the time.
@renaissancepoet
@renaissancepoet 10 ай бұрын
The Anti-Matter Man is one of the series best episodes.
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 10 ай бұрын
It's certainly is. One of my all-time favorite :-)
@nancyadams9228
@nancyadams9228 10 ай бұрын
I used to work with Rick Harris, Jonathan’s son. Jonathan would visit us a couple of times a year. Both of them were kind and extremely intelligent. I am grateful for that experience and what I learned.
@lindsaybrambles9678
@lindsaybrambles9678 10 ай бұрын
I was six back when this first aired in the 60s, and I was already a big science fiction fan, spurred on by my oldest brother who was deep into the genre. Initially, I loved the show (especially the robot and the Jupiter 2), but as the show grew sillier and Smith increasingly became the focus of it, my interest flagged--which is about the time when Star Trek hit the airwaves and gained my allegiance. Better ship. Better adventures. Better SFX. Better characters. And, more importantly, some of the best writing in television at that time. Lost in Space had some decent episodes that I can even now watch and enjoy (though Smith never ceases to irritate me), but far too often it got even the basics of science wrong. It's amazing how ignorant and/or how (clearly) indifferent the writers (and producers) were to getting even the simplest of facts about space and space travel correct. I mean, you knew they were clueless and/or uncaring when terms like solar system and galaxy were bandied about as if they meant the same thing. And there were so many improbable situations, not least being the litany of encounters with other people (some from Earth) who never seemed to be able to help the family get back on track and find their way home (or at least to the oft-mentioned Alpha Centauri). When you watch the original pilot for the series, you get some inkling of what the show might have been had they not had the Smith character chewing up the scenery and turning each episode into a wearying display of ham acting and over-the-top camp. I don't think it was ever going to be the measure of Star Trek, but it could have been a far better and more memorable (at least in a good way) series than it was. By the time the third season aired my family had moved to Pakistan (because of my father's work on a Canadian aid project there), so I never got to see those final (excruciating) episodes. Even decades later, I've yet to view more than a handful of season three episodes, and of those there is little that can be said is redeeming. The Smith character had become a parody of himself, so inanely ridiculous that one couldn't even laugh at the spectacle. And you had to feel sorry for the rest of the cast, who often looked as if they'd reached the end of their tether and were just going through the motions, waiting for the nightmare to end. (Except, perhaps, Billy Mumy, who seemed to be gamely playing along with Jonathan Harris' buffoonery.) In Pakistan I had the good fortune to discover the Gold Key Space Family Robinson: Lost in Space comics, which I initially bought because I though they were adaptations of the TV show. However, the comics were unrelated to the Allen's series, and, in my opinion, generally better. They also had a longer run than the TV series, in terms of years, and remain a favourite collectible for me. If you've never read them, you owe to yourself to seek some issues out and take a gander. Well worth it.
@RonSilver-k8x
@RonSilver-k8x 24 күн бұрын
Lost in Space became the Gilligan’s Island of Sci-Fi television in the 1960’s. Downhill as far as serious melodramatic Science Fiction goes .
@RoyalEntertainment559
@RoyalEntertainment559 10 ай бұрын
Great voice. Love your delivery and inflection.
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 10 ай бұрын
THANK YOU!! Dan :)
@mickwarfield2447
@mickwarfield2447 10 ай бұрын
Though I was quite young, I still remember watching first run episodes of this show with my family in '67 & '68, and then watching it in reruns everyday after school in the seventies. I'm 60 now, and my all-time favorite episode will forever be "The Space Creature."
@quinnn.5424
@quinnn.5424 7 ай бұрын
As a kid in the early '70s, I loved Lost in Space... at first. I would come home from school in the afternoons and watch reruns of the first season of the show, on TV. It didn't bother me that those episodes were in black & white. I was fascinated! At school, I would daydream of being Will Robinson's brother and being Lost in Space with him and the Robinson family. I even began writing stories of us having adventures together. But then the show started getting campy, and I eventually lost interest. It was the same with me and the Batman reruns on TV. Even though I was an avid reader of comic books, as a kid, I did not care for that "Batman" - I found it to be silly and uninteresting.
@matchrocket1702
@matchrocket1702 9 ай бұрын
"Oh the pain!" Now that would make a good ringtone.
@The_Fat_Controller.
@The_Fat_Controller. 10 ай бұрын
I always thought the show went downhill the moment Jonathan Harris started to camp up the Dr. Smith character. It was like this decision of his marked the beginning of the show's unwatchability. I had also heard or read long ago that Harris believed his character was on the chopping block, so he decided to ham it up as a "F--- you" to those calling for his character to be removed from the show. Maybe that information was incorrect, but I still feel that Harris going camp marked the end of the show's watchability for me. It took the character of Harris' voiced Lucifer in _Battlestar Galactica_ to partially redeem the man in my eyes.
@thomaskalbfus2005
@thomaskalbfus2005 10 ай бұрын
Doctor Smith is analogous to Gilligan in Gilligan's Island. Both the Robinsons and the Seven Castaways are in similar predicaments, and Doctor Smith serves a similar role as Gilliigan in driving the plot of each episode.
@leerhode1021
@leerhode1021 10 ай бұрын
@@thomaskalbfus2005 Gilligan was more successful.
@thomaskalbfus2005
@thomaskalbfus2005 10 ай бұрын
@@leerhode1021 that was because Gilligan's Island wasn't a science fiction show, though it did have a professor capable of inventing a bunch of crazy gadgets, but none of which got the castaways off the island!
@leerhode1021
@leerhode1021 10 ай бұрын
@@thomaskalbfus2005 👍🏾
@1223jamez
@1223jamez Ай бұрын
Loved Lost in Space when I was a kid and still love it even though it went campy! My favorite part is the music! One of my all time favorites!
@lucas5101
@lucas5101 10 ай бұрын
As a kid we loved Lost in Space , when i watch an episode now I wonder how my parents put up with it.
@w2tty
@w2tty 7 ай бұрын
Loved this episode, Dan. Excellent points. Thank you.
@michaeltaylors2456
@michaeltaylors2456 10 ай бұрын
Opening theme music with the trumpet section blasting, basses rumbling was just fantastic though !
@fredferd965
@fredferd965 10 ай бұрын
Have no fear! Smith is here!!!!!
@sandmanlogan5ran149
@sandmanlogan5ran149 8 ай бұрын
The channel is excellent, you know your stuff and you come across as a genuine person , no over the top schtick. I'm looking forward to more content.
@themobseat
@themobseat 10 ай бұрын
Dr. Smith was so flaming, I can't believe he was allowed on the "family hour."
@Dom2Wan
@Dom2Wan 10 ай бұрын
"Oh isn't that Liberace such a nice man, and he so loves his mother."
@billhardy7870
@billhardy7870 10 ай бұрын
Your channel just popped up in my YT feed and I'm very happy it did. I was 15 when "Lost in Space" first premiered and, along with Star Trek a year later, were my favorite moments of watching television as a kid. I do remember LIS becoming more '"younger than me" oriented with the silly costumes and such, and Dr. Smith becoming annoying as I headed to late teenager, but still enjoyed the show during it's run. Nowadays, in my 70's, I find it harder to watch because of the silliness, but it always brings back fond memories when I do.
@maxsmodels
@maxsmodels 10 ай бұрын
I had heard about the Robot, Wil and & Dr. Smith becoming the most popular characters, but I was not aware of the network execs directions to drive it toward kids. It makes sense as kids buy toys whereas teen boys are off chasing girls while teen girls are busy acting like they don't want to be chased.
@clydekimsey7503
@clydekimsey7503 8 ай бұрын
I remember thinking the beautiful blonde daughter always looked lost and didn't have many lines
@beyond_the_infinite2098
@beyond_the_infinite2098 7 ай бұрын
she was lost - in space.
@clydekimsey7503
@clydekimsey7503 8 ай бұрын
Billy mumy should have sent Mr smith to the cornfield 😅
@rhm5158
@rhm5158 10 ай бұрын
You have a great radio voice!
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 10 ай бұрын
Thank you :-)
@UWannaBeAProducer
@UWannaBeAProducer 10 ай бұрын
"Family Hour" didn't become a thing until the 1970's. Lost In Space was on opposite Batman. That's why they changed.
@walterfechter8080
@walterfechter8080 9 ай бұрын
And Stanley Adams as "Tybo the Carrot Man." LOL! I watched the first few episodes of "Lost in Space," then, in 1966, I boldly went where no man has gone before.
@michaelcanty4940
@michaelcanty4940 10 ай бұрын
James Aubrey was the President of CBS. He was the executive behind Beverly Hillbillies and Giligan's Island. The campy comic LIS was a lot cheaper to produce than the early sci Fi episodes. Cost was a major factor in the demise of The Twilight Zone.
@ajf5823
@ajf5823 10 ай бұрын
I couldn’t stand the shows you mentioned either! So stupid!
@ZymurgySchrodinger
@ZymurgySchrodinger 8 ай бұрын
I was born and raised in Hawaii. We never got to see "Lost In Space" as it was released. The episodes were never shown in sequence, some episodes we never got to see, many times they would show the same show for two weeks, and they were less than 30 min. and the "TO BE CONTINUED..." we never saw in order. All TV was like that over there. Most kids watched it if there was nothing else to do.
@igorschmidlapp6987
@igorschmidlapp6987 9 ай бұрын
This made me go back and watch the original un-aired pilot with the "Gemini 12", set October 16, 1997) that was worked into the first few episodes (no smith, no Robot). It was an actual serious attempt at "Swiss Family Robinson" in space. It's still "out there" in cyberspace. It was actually a good pilot,with a couple interesting things.... Judy was planning a career in musical comedy before the family being picked, per the news commentator. Don West held a doctorate, not a military Major, and was their "assistant", not their "pilot", whose study was theoretical fitness for human habitation of other planets. A couple of nits to pick: For some reason, with the temperature dropping, John rejects Don's suggestion of staying in the ship, and to migrate south, as if a spaceship designed to travel in the cold of deep space wouldn't shield them from -150 degrees (I assume Fahrenheit). Don gets splashed off the roof of the Chariot trying to reconnect solar batteries in the stormy Inland Sea, and everyone thinks he's gone, when he's just hanging over the side, which they could see if they just looked at the clear side walls. John's written log entries (with a voice-over) which revealed that they were traveling in space for over 3 years before crashing (without details on their revival from suspended animation) were a nice touch, as was the ending, with "aliens" observing them after they get to the tropical area, leaving an open ending fit for a pilot episode. If Irwin Allen had stuck with that, he might have had a true competitor to "Star Trek", but definitely not "kiddie" sci-fi (but, I liked "The Twilight Zone" and "The Outer Limits" as a kid in the '60s). But, the later movie remake and the Netflix series showed that you can go "serious" with LiS, but still be cringe-worthy...
@StevePemberton2
@StevePemberton2 9 ай бұрын
Actually the situation with the -150 degree temperature was not really that unscientific. In space objects hold heat much better because of being in a vacuum. In our atmosphere a big part of cooling is from convection, where air brushes up against an object and absorbs heat and carries it away. Same thing when submerged in water. However in space the only way to get rid of heat is by radiation, mainly through infrared light. Think of looking at something with a night vision camera, you are seeing the heat radiating from it. Infrared radiation only eliminates a limited amount of heat however, so the Space Shuttle for example and the International Space Station have to work hard to get rid of excess heat. So the Jupiter 2 insulation could handle being in deep space, but on the planet the -150 air which is coming in contact with the spaceship would pull a tremendous amount of heat out of it. As for the Chariot, I just saw that as a normal visual discrepancy, sort of like scenes that take place at night, we usually see things a lot better than someone would in real life. That's because if they portrayed how it actually looked then we wouldn't see much and it would not be as interesting to watch. Same thing with the storm, in "real life" it was dark, and the waves were crashing against the windows, sort of like heavy rain in a car with no windshield wipers. So it is quite conceivable that they could not see Don outside. However visually the scene was shot with plenty of light, although made to look somewhat dark and stormy, so that we as viewers could see what is going on. And there was just water (probably buckets of water) splashing against the windows but not enough to stop us (as viewers) from seeing through the windows so that we could see the waves and storm outside and add to the visual effect. So I give them a pass it wasn't really a "goof" in my opinion.
@astrotherapist
@astrotherapist 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Thank you so much for your explanation and analysis. As a life long "Lost in Space" fan, I often felt that the emphasis on the "Dr. Smith" character as the whining crybaby "bad guy" was dumb; and ruined a lot of episodes that otherwise could have been cool. Now that I understand what happened and why, I can see why they were forced to make him into that. Personally, I would have preferred they killed off the character at some point in season one, and just had a focus on the adventures of the Robinson family in space.
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 5 ай бұрын
I loved this show... Even to this day, and I'm 64, I still every now and then fire up those 1st season black and white eps ...They really ruined the show when it turned from dark and serious to silly and campy.. Its a shame that happened ..one can only wonder had it been let progress along its original lines...The robot being menacing, smith being a spy, a saboteur and an assassin, those were just so cool and the 1st season was so atmospheric! The opening episode , the reluctant stowaway, That was Fire! The ship crashing on a planet for the 1st time with everyone in the freezing tubes, Invaders from the 5th dimension, the 1st season finale episode with john robinson taken over by Quanto, ect... some fantastic episodes and writing ...
@philipwittke8491
@philipwittke8491 10 ай бұрын
"Oh ...the pain!!!".... of watching this show as a kid
@kurtb8474
@kurtb8474 10 ай бұрын
Nicely explained. I was 6 years old when the show started. I remember how amazing it looked to me. A year later, this other space show came on and I was completely awed. I tried to keep liking LIS, but Star Trek pulled me away from it. Of course, at that age, I had to be in bed before it came on, so I had to catch it in summer reruns. Since then, I would watch LIS because it was part of my childhood. But, I can only stand to watch maybe the first three episodes.
@rino7789
@rino7789 10 ай бұрын
The first five or six episodes of this show was very good science fiction and then it had to change. I prefer the black and white episodes overall.
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 10 ай бұрын
Me too. The first half of the first season is great sci-fi Adventure :-) hope you had a great holiday, Dan :-)
@morgangallowglass8668
@morgangallowglass8668 10 ай бұрын
Such a shame. The first season was brilliant. Once it went to color...it became a live action cartoon for kids. Even as a kid, I presumed that Dr. Smith had a mental breakdown, going from proper villain to hapless victim of his circumstances.
@markvwood2007
@markvwood2007 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I remember us boys in grade 1 recess marching around and proudly saying, "Crush Kill Destroy!". I think it was 1967. Also popular was "That does not compute". Penny was my first crush.
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 10 ай бұрын
That's a great story :-) yes, everybody left penny. I'm friends with her in real life, she's a wonderful warm person. Thanks for the support, Dan
@shayne87
@shayne87 10 ай бұрын
"Basically becoming the straight man to Jonathan Harris" 😂😂😂
@rwarren58
@rwarren58 10 ай бұрын
I was 7 years old when this showed debuted and I loved it. You can imagine how bad it was in 3 years when they horrified the same 10 year old boy with what they had done with the show. The episode with Warren Oates is still one of the best TV episodes of all time. Thanks for shedding some light on what really happened.
@raycote568
@raycote568 10 ай бұрын
After the first season it was unwatchable even for my 10-11 year old self. It was summed up perfectly further down by markkomis6160 when he observed how Irwin Allen had amazing concepts that quickly deteriorated into schlock. The robot is still it's one saving grace!
@marksmith4346
@marksmith4346 10 ай бұрын
Not long ago, it was showing on some broadcast network and I snagged it. I remembered it as a child and thought parts of it was really stupid but that certain segments were entertaining. Watching it as an adult, I think two episodes got me to tell my DVR to delete all.
@OscarInAsia
@OscarInAsia 10 ай бұрын
I don't know the original time slots, but a similar changed happened to "The Man from UNCLE". It was a serious spy series in the black and white episodes and when it switched to color it gradually got campier to the point of being completely silly. I still blame TV Batman for this shift.
@junaid1
@junaid1 10 ай бұрын
Very nice analysis. The time slot is something I never would have thought of. LOS was excellent when it was almost Twilight Zone, when it was more science fiction based than campy. We got used to what it developed into but the better episodes had a certain edge to them. The Keeper was classic.
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 10 ай бұрын
The keeper was one of the best. Thanks for the great, I appreciate the support. Hope you had a great holiday, Dan :-)
@joelast645
@joelast645 10 ай бұрын
@@MoviesMusicMonsters season 3 was the best season it was great to see penny grow into a beauty...haunted lighthouse and promised planet were my favorite shows
@gregbumgardner3006
@gregbumgardner3006 10 ай бұрын
It turned into the Dr. Smith / Will screwing up show, not about exploration. Or 25% about family. Itturned stupid real quick. Love the Robot, Jupiter 2,Chariot. Thats about it.
@jamesharper7365
@jamesharper7365 Ай бұрын
MAN, DAN; I'M SOOO SICK OF FINDING THAT A LOT OF SHOWS THAT I WATCHED & LOVED WERE SHOT DOWN MESSED UP, CHANGED , BECAUSE OF NETWORK POLATICS...WHY IS THERE SO MUCH POLATICS, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY WHERE....I JUST WANT TO CRY SOMETIMES A LOT OF GREAT SHOWS 7 ACTORS JUST TOSSED OUT, PEOPLE PUT OUT OF WORK OVER ALL THIS BS... BUT GOOD QUESTION, WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPEND IN A DIFFERNT TIME SLOT.??
@WayneThreadgill
@WayneThreadgill 10 ай бұрын
Lost In Space was my favorite show when I was kid. I enjoyed all characters on the show, but Doctor Smith, Will, and the robot were my favorites. It was a great show to me.
@paulgiacomantonio9802
@paulgiacomantonio9802 7 ай бұрын
Dan, you really do a respectable Robot/Dr. Smith voice.
@robertc8110
@robertc8110 10 ай бұрын
Thank you...I wondered why the show changed direction so quickly.
@chrismcpherson1586
@chrismcpherson1586 10 ай бұрын
Lost In Space was a favorite in my childhood. I watched every day after school. But it became stupid yes stupid. A 6yr old finding it stupid. It came on at 4:30 Monday through Friday in Michigan. I had a awesome Robot toy. It ran on batteries. I still havit and it's original box. It talked and moved around. My dad said Dr.Smith was a homo. At 6yrs old i didn't know what homo was.❗️
@onceamusician5408
@onceamusician5408 10 ай бұрын
in 1968 i was a VERY SERIOUS little boy of 10 years (intellectually precocious and earmarked for either science or academia, I got sidetracked into classical music as my handle tells you). and i was not pleased at the direction the show took at the time . i did not know the term camp back then but i did not like what i saw before my eyes on our family's black and white TV in our country with only one channel and that also in black and white. But thanks for explaining why they did it
@TheRandomMechanic
@TheRandomMechanic 10 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this one as well
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 10 ай бұрын
Enjoy :-) let me know what you think :-) Dan
@TheRandomMechanic
@TheRandomMechanic 10 ай бұрын
​@@MoviesMusicMonsters , loved every second of it especially your spot on impressions , gave it a like cant wait till the next one , also do you have any resources or links for anyone wanting to keep up on the progress of the chariot restoration ?
@janel.8921
@janel.8921 10 ай бұрын
I liked the first season the best.
@theequalizer9154
@theequalizer9154 10 ай бұрын
RIP Mark Goddard as, "Maj. Don West" who passed away in 2023.
@martinoconnor4314
@martinoconnor4314 10 ай бұрын
I loved the first season when I was a kid, I used to rush home from school to watch it, when the second season started I stopped rushing home from school.
@petebyron1957
@petebyron1957 10 ай бұрын
Born 57, I guess I was the target age for the change. 1952 Superman went through the same format change too. Like Superman, those first episodes were the best, from an adults point of view.
@headrushindi
@headrushindi 10 ай бұрын
I didn't mind the campy nature after the second season . I was a little kid when it came out , and it was epic to me. Frankly at the time I never questioned Doctor Smith's softer , more goofy character after the first season. I just loved the adventures of that family in space. They could not have chosen a better cast of seasoned actors to play the adults , and a perfect mix for the kids. Still to this day I fondly go back and watch choice episodes on my DVD set of all the episodes.
@johnemery285
@johnemery285 10 ай бұрын
We made sure we were home to watch it in June, July and August. I was just a boy at the time.
@loutube905
@loutube905 5 ай бұрын
What happened to the space chariot, the badass jet pack... And Penny's alien monkey (debby?). Some of the coolest things in the show... All gone after color transition.
@hugohackenbush1554
@hugohackenbush1554 10 ай бұрын
There are not enough superlatives to describe just how good this video is. Thank you so much for your insight and research. I'm way into my 60s now and I remember how once a week I'd rush as fast as I could to get home to watch Lost In Space. We only had a black and white set, colour definitely was too pricey back then in London, England. That's all I wanted to say. Keep up the great job. PS Now I'm the one with the bad back saying, “Oh the pain, the pain!”
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 10 ай бұрын
Hey, thanks so much for the support I truly appreciate it. And I'm not just saying that. I hope you had a great holiday and stay tuned for more videos :-) Dan
@hugohackenbush1554
@hugohackenbush1554 10 ай бұрын
@@MoviesMusicMonsters Hello Dan. 👍🏻 You'll never have guessed but I'm a Dan too!! 😁 Thank you very much for the nice message, appreciated. KTF [keep the faith] 🤜🏼🤛🏼
@randycrawford4921
@randycrawford4921 10 ай бұрын
I was 12 years old when Lost in Space premiered and I think there is more evidence that the Batman TV show influenced the change to the camp tone of the show than the "family hour" . There were many shows that were mature and violent before and during LIS series that ran in the 7:30 to 8:30 PM time slot such as Gunsmoke,Voyage to the bottom of the Sea,Combat,Garrison's Gorrillas ,Outer Limits, 12 o'clock High,Rawhide,The Wild,Wild West , Ironhorse and two shows The Virginian and Custer of the West actually ran opposite LIS in the same time slot. In fact many family shows like Family Affair and Andy Griffth ran later in the evening. The "family hour" did not become a set programming practice until 1971 in response to an anti violence campaign on TV that sprang up after the Martin Luther King and RFK assassinations. The Family hour plan also coincided with the FCC rule in 1971 which gave the 7:30 to 8:PM time slot back to the local network channels. Source : The Complete Directory of Prime time network shows 1946 to 79.
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 10 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis :-) and much of what you said is very true. However, I'm simply going by the reasons given directly between Communications from CBS to Irwin Allen. There's an excellent Trilogy of books by Mark Cushman, on Lost In space. The books take an extremely deep dive into this topic. Yes, once the second season hit in color there was definitely an influence from batman, but I was basically speaking with the initial changes were in the first season. Hope you had a great holiday :-) Dan
@slactweak
@slactweak 10 ай бұрын
I was also 12 and I never missed an episode of Lost In Space, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Combat, The Outer Limits, 12 O'clock High or The Wild Wild West. They all ran in Prime Time and they were all good shows. Great times, when less was definitely more.
@stephenarzoomanian8074
@stephenarzoomanian8074 9 ай бұрын
I have had the pleasure of meeting Marta Kristen a few times at the conventions, she is one of the nicest most gracious ladies you will ever know .
@alphonsocarioti512
@alphonsocarioti512 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! Thanks, Dan.
@MoviesMusicMonsters
@MoviesMusicMonsters 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much I appreciate the support :-) Dan
@robertburnam885
@robertburnam885 10 ай бұрын
As a kid, i remember plenty of times watching Lost in Space with my Grandmother. Later, she took me to a play with Jonathan Harris. Having the chance to go backstage afterwards, the only question my 10 year old brain could ask was, "Was the Robot real?" His reply was pretty cool. "What do you think?" Been a fan if his ever since. Keep up the good work!
@stevemortillaro7201
@stevemortillaro7201 8 ай бұрын
Bill Mumy went on to form one half of Barnes and Barnes, who gave the world the classic gem “Fish Heads”
@Scotta0
@Scotta0 8 ай бұрын
He was great on Babylon 5 too.
@davidmcmaster2083
@davidmcmaster2083 10 ай бұрын
The noise they used for every huge monster, the screech, whatever ya wanna call it, scared the beejesus out of me when I was 5-6 years old. Never occurred to me that it didn't make much sense that every monster sounded the same.
@scottd2063
@scottd2063 10 ай бұрын
Long ago I read a very different assessment about why the show changed. MONEY! After the first season, budget concerns cropped up. Therefore, instead of outer space special effects and multiple outer space sets, now the Robinsons are stuck on a planet with sets lifted from old sci-fi movies, and costumes borrowed from the studio closet (giant carrot? Yikes!) I tend to believe this account, because at the end of the day everything comes back to greenbacks.
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