Why did Raspberry Pi make their own SSD?

[@yeswanthkumar97]

I think Raspberry Pi made their own SSD (specifically 2230) because of Pi6. when they release Pi6 with nvme slot (which they should have done with Pi 5) they can easily bundle it and sell more, essentially redirecting the profits to their own pockets instead of other storage manufacturers.

[@Level2Jeff]

I do hope they include an M.2 slot on the Pi 6, or even add one onto a Pi 500 if they ever release one. I'm sure they have prototypes, just not sure why it hasn't happened (IMO a Pi 500 with NVMe support would be a very popular product).

[@NickyNiclas]

@@Level2Jeff I hope they have two slots for redundancy but that might be hoping for too much :(

[@yeswanthkumar97]

​@@Level2Jeff I also hope Pi500 with NVMe happens soon and will be a perfect mini PC alternative if they have at least 16GB of RAM (great for Windows on ARM). The reason i think Pi6 will launch with NVMe is because they need to upgrade PCIe to gen3 x2 or x4 and cannot continue using same flimsy connector. It will be lot easier to design and install expansion hats from m.2 NVMe slot.

[@Shocker99]

Pi 6, when?! I like RPis but i always have an issue with storage reliability if they're on for too long. - SD cares are too unreliable - USB devices can have too loose connections, or there is some USB related oddity - HATs i've not tried due to the very limited number of cases that accommodate them.

[@Max24871]

I really hoped Raspberry Pi would adopt SD Express, which is a pcie connection to the SD card. The raspberry pi would be the perfect use case for it, and it wouldn't waste space like an M.2 does

[@LockonKubi]

First party "basic but known to be reliable" parts might be a good move for newbies dipping their toes into the Pi ecosystem. Overwhelmed by all the various parts out there? Same brand is a good place to start.

[@Sim-rh4tj]

Indeed. Their own products are likely to be a known quantity and hence well supported.

[@JayrosModShop]

I'm a big fan of GeeekPi products. Their Pi 4 acrylic case with HDMI expansion board is top-notch amazing, especially if you want to use it as a dedicated set-top multimedia box for a TV or something. All the ports are on the back, making it super universal.

[@shapelessed]

All I want from the Pi Foundation these days is a Pi 0 with MORE MEMORY!!!

[@Level2Jeff]

Mmm... Pi Zero 2 with 1+ GB RAM would be nice.

[@touma-san91]

@@Level2Jeff Feels more like a Pi Zero 3 thing tbh

[@ireallydontknowifiamhonest]

at this point i would just consider the CM4 to be the new RPi Zero 3

[@JayrosModShop]

I'd like an A+ variant of the Pi 4 or Pi 5 with at least 1GB of RAM, but 2GB would be a warm welcome and a single USB 3 port. And a Pi 500 with 8GB RAM would be SWEET as a modern every-day web-browsing computer.

[@shapelessed]

@@ireallydontknowifiamhonest It's not small enough. The Pi Zero is great because it's more than a dumb microcontroller yet can fit everywhere I need it. The problem is just too little memory...

[@SmithyScotland]

Worth remembering Sony makes these cameras - and Sony owns a chunk of RPI trading.

[@bern047]

Sony also make the Raspberry Pi in their factory in Wales

[@scottmielke4071]

This is a nothing burger

[@Shocker99]

12:00 It's funny how Jeff doesn't realise that +99% of his videos are about Raspberry Pis, which essentially makes him the Raspberry Pi person on KZbin

[@Level2Jeff]

5 of the last 12 videos on my main channel were about Pi-related projects-the rest varied between homelab, RISC-V, Windows on Arm, and even a 3D printer... the problem is, I'm pretty sure KZbin pigeonholes certain users into certain topics, so unless you follow someone only on the subscriptions page, you'll only see the videos that are more in line with what KZbin *thinks* you want to see on the home page or sidebar.

[@Shocker99]

​@@Level2Jeff I've belled you, so i see all of your uploads. 🙂 Yeah sure, recently you've made fewer videos related to the RPi, but if we look at the last 4 years of your channel, how many of them as a percentage are RPi related? You made RPi videos before the last 4 years, but you didn't do as many except for your RPi cluster mini series.

[@Level2Jeff]

@@Shocker99 I'm not saying I don't do a lot of Pi stuff, but it's very far from 99% ;)

[@Wannes_]

​@@Level2Jeff Pi-geonholed 🤭 So their NVME is a Samsung 980 ?

[@raspberrypi]

Hard agree that the $3 bumper is our greatest accessory yet.

[@acubley]

Do the holes line up enough to use on a 4? (I know it doesn't have the headphone jack cutout, which I don't use anyway :-)

[@leepspvideo]

Thanks for the mention Jeff 😃

[@Level2Jeff]

You're quite welcome! Thanks for covering all the stuff you cover!

[@Tehk]

Petition to call pi nvme etc bases "Shoes". We've already got hats for main pi and socks for picos.

[@eltamarindo]

Many people, like myself, would buy a Rasp Pi primarily because it is standardized equipment where you can substitute one Pi for another without ever having hardware compatibility problems. Sure, there are a whole number of SSDs that are compatible with the Rasp Pi, but not all of them are compatible. SSDs are not as universally compatible as some people think. Further there are many people like myself that are quite willing to pay the "tax" to know that these parts are all tested and validated by the Rasp Pi foundation.

[@xrafter]

Might explain why I wasn't able to boot through one.

[@thegreyfuzz]

The bumper could be pretty handy... if you've ever shorted out the bottom of your pi setting it down on a screw or a male breadboard jumper that was on the bench... save the magic smoke from being set free.

[@Level2Jeff]

Yep! Like I said, my favorite Pi product... I just ordered 5 more, planning on slapping them on all the Pis I have sitting around.

[@garylgoldberg]

Wonder how long before there's a 3D-Printed STL available for TPU.

My problem with these AI HATs is that these are only for image processing tasks. They should really provide variants with onboard memory which can run at least a 7B LLM. That would be useful. Eg. with home automation, you could use it as an always-on low power LLM agent for Home Assistant. Or just to run background jobs, eg. fetch and process news and create a personalized filtered feed. Also I think they due with a Pi 400 successor, I won't be surprised if a Pi5 based revamp shows up before the Christmas period.

[@Level2Jeff]

I've heard some people working on cramming in a smaller model on the Hailo 8 or 8L, would be cool for Home Assistant!

[@steveiliop56]

I believe the pi SSD is just an opportunity to a) make more money which I don't see the problem since we know and trust this brand b) ensure the best comparability so if you are a beginner just buy what works best?

[@Max24871]

It is an incentive not to ensure compatibility with _all_ drives, when there really shouldn't be an excuse if there were problem with specific brands. A problem is a bug to be fixed, not a reason to only buy more stuff directly from them.

[@Wannes_]

Looking at local Amazon pricing, they're undercutting other brands So no Pi-premium

[@LongerThanAverageUsername]

R PI, please make a “Pi 5 +” or something with no SD card slot and instead a full M.2 slot for an NVME drive.

[@Level2Jeff]

With you there-though I'd love to have both :D

[@arch1107]

what i like of your comment is that you are writing that comment to pi directly, and they will read it! also would be nice more usb2 headers and led and buttons header for power and similar stuff

[@LongerThanAverageUsername]

@@arch1107 call it wishful thinking. :) Considering Jeff has interviewed the CEO a few times and makes lots of content around PIs, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that someone at the company sees the interest in the idea.

[@LongerThanAverageUsername]

@@Level2Jeff alright Jeff, hear me out… TWO M.2 slots instead of one of each. :)

[@arch1107]

@@LongerThanAverageUsername no, it can happen, they do watch the big channels covering pi related content, it can happen, but for the size, i expect just one m2.2230, i doubt it can fit 2

[@-TheBugLord]

Crazy how affordable this is considering you get built in people/object detection on a camera feed. I foresee this causing a positive chain reaction in the robotics industry.

[@mausmalone]

I love that in order to show off the Pi accessories which are extremely small, you have to zoom in SO MUCH that you can see the halftone print pattern on the fake wood texture.

[@Level2Jeff]

Heh, someday I'll get a real wood desk :D

[@richards7909]

Peripherals generally have a higher profit margin plus there will also be those that will purchase first party over third party due to compatibility and/or quality. This is how it works for the likes of the console manufacturers.

[@stefanmisch5272]

2230 SSDs are getting more and more traction. The German price comparison engine Geizhals lists more 2230 drives than 2242 these days - almost twice as many, actually.

[@tonysheerness2427]

Everything is getting smaller

[@marcogenovesi8570]

the flash chips are getting more and more storage space, we are at a point where a single chip can hold 512gb, while user demand for big SSDs has not appeared yet

[@Level2Jeff]

And NVMe support is showing up in more and more devices.

[@petermichaelgreen]

2242 seems to fall uncomfortablly between stools, the really small stuff has gone for 2230 and the normal sized laptops have gone with 2280.

[@darkstatehk]

I love their MagPi. Essentially, it's a trained homebound Corvidae that has revolutionary lightweight leapfrog-class neodymium magnets strapped to its back. You basically install a number of custom made copper coils, strategically placed along the walls of your room. As the MagPi flaps around, it powers your Raspberry Pi for at least a day. Edit: I'm also a big fan of popping on a sock when I'm tinkering with it. Kudus to Jeff for sharing this 💚

[@Level2Jeff]

What... did I just read???

[@darkstatehk]

@@Level2Jeff Haha! Some of us are crazy lovers of your channel and have a sense of weird humour :DD Honoured to have a reply!

[@paulmaydaynight9925]

@@darkstatehk your imaginary pi product is missing the real x8 -/dual x4- pciE 3 slot -just like the real products.- 🤐

[@marcogenovesi8570]

9:18 that's just a lazy bs excuse, shame on Raspi foundation/corporation. Bro what do you mean you can't publish full specs because they might change in the future? It's a website, not a stone tablet. Just put a revision number on the darn thing and list different specs for each SSD revision number. This is 100% dishonest bs

[@var67]

Dude, he LITERALLY says why: if the specs drop by 2% because of a chip change, you get outrage & they don't want that.

[@jyvben1520]

how many people look at a revision number ?

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@var67 Dude I literally called that "lazy bs excuse". Oh no some autistic people on the internet might be angry about a 2% performance change in a device where performance was poor to begin with and mostly irrelevant!!! We must protect ourselves from the onslaught!!!!

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@jyvben1520 how many people look at the drive specs at all? Why have a page called "drive specs" and say nothing on it

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@var67 yeah and I called that "lazy bs excuse".

[@marcogenovesi8570]

I'm mildly annoyed that they didn't bother to add capacitors to have power loss protection for the SSD

[@fullstack_journey]

I can see people grabbing these not for use with the Pi, but for small form factor PC builds in general (that doesn't need peak performance)

[@arch1107]

for steam deck. it has the size, there are other brands offering it, but mostl or is too expensive or the quality is uncertain

[@steven44799]

Channels inner Doug Demuro: THIIIIIIIIIS is a raspberry pi accessory and today I am going to take you over its quirks and features.

[@AllSeeingEy3]

REVUP YOUR ENGIIINES NOW THIS HERE IS A RASPBERRY PI AI CAMERA FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO WANT THEIR PIHOLE TO BE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFEREMCE BETWEEN FEDEX AND UPS DRIVERS. NOW ITS NOT FOR ME BUT IT TAKES ALL KINDS..

[@DiamondMaster115]

I am working on a video for a Minecraft Server powered with a Raspberry Pi, and I was trying to figure out how to make the whole M.2 NVME SSD and Active cooler both work and be practical enough for anyone else to replicate. Getting 3rd party parts to build it out could have so many more potential compatibility problems, but within the time span of me writing the script for the project, Raspberry Pi literally released everything I needed as an official part, which is awesome 👍

[@Keegan.M]

I’m not too familiar with drive performance but this seems decent at that price point and form factor? Might grab one, I’ve got a full size nvme on a bottom board hat currently that I could use elsewhere.

[@Level2Jeff]

Yeah, it's better than I expected. Usually OEMs will use cheaper chips, but these are older (PCIe Gen 3, since that's what the Pi's bus uses) but decent.

[@pseudo_goose]

4:35 - Hardware engineer's tip: use M2.5 standoffs in the normal mounting holes as feet. Doesn't fix the sliding issue but it at least keeps the PCB from sitting bare on the desk

[@Level2Jeff]

We need rubberized screws though, to hold it in place! :)

[@nemesis851_]

For extreme outdoor applications ( -40 degrees ) I’ve only found 2 manufacturer that make microSD for that operating temp. Interestingly they both called them “Industrial” Maybe Raspberry Pi could get their brand on that category

[@Level2Jeff]

Yeah, those cards typically cost a bit more but I've bought five or so and throw them in Pis where I know it could get a bit cold out. None have failed me so far! A couple from Kingston, and one I think from Sony? Might've been a SanDisk.

[@nemesis851_]

Yes. I think it was those two. Many others do -25

[@m3chanist]

That bumper is great, I'm a gonna print one. Perfect for working on the pi as you say. Full cases are end use only and even then, if the pi is embedded, not needed.

[@ottersdangerden]

I am not sure why companies are allergic to making new skus when older products are no longer being made. If they cannot get the parts to create the nvme that they are making today then make a different sku. Not everyone has to follow in the footsteps of the other manufactures.

[@jb123rnd]

Great Video! Excited to see the upgrades to your Frigate setup with the new AI boards!

[@Dygear]

I appreciate the honesty at the end on why not do a full review on each item. That's fair. If you do pick one to review, I'd love to see the NVMe drives taken out for a spin. I use Raspberry Pi 5 with a 128GB SD Card as a backup web server should my main server go down. It works, very, very well for that reason. Being able to put a 512GB NVMe drive out there in the data center would be helpful. But as I usually put these in the FLIRC case, so there is no moving parts on these remote installed raspberry pis, there has to be a good pref tradeoff to be made there.

[@reinekewf7987]

0:46 what with that stuttering in the video? you are not the only channel who did this. There are nearly every new video on KZbin that doing those stuttering/glitches.

[@Level2Jeff]

Yeah... for me, unfortunately it's a glitch in my OBS setup. I've been hacking away at different formats/encoders for months, and the settings I have now are the most reliable. However, it glitches the audio every 10-20 minutes of recording. When I'm at my other recording areas, I go straight into a Blackmagic monitor that records direct from the analog audio... so there's no glitching there. Might have to bite the bullet and get a different recording setup at my editing desk too someday.

[@altosack]

@@Level2Jeff- We don’t care about a few glitches; your money and time are best spent elsewhere and elsewhen.

[@reinekewf7987]

@@Level2Jeff I was curious about it. I have seen this behavior on many other channels. It makes sense if obs has a problem. Many KZbinrs use obs and if it is a bug of a certain version that is actual around, then it makes a lot of sense why so many channels have those glitches. ^^

[@mahtin]

3:58 it’s always the simple things in life that are satisfying.

[@bugulugs5135]

When I first started working with RPi’s I just used small plastic stand-offs until everything was working then I would put it in a case. Much better than the sticky rubber feet idea, but I have a couple of 3D printers now and I printed something similar to the RPi bumper.

[@Sylvan_dB]

Seems like someone with more skills than I, could publish a printable design for that bumper. Even if you had to stick feet on it it would be better than sticking them on the PCB, and printed with TPU might be non-slip enough.

[@Skillnoob_]

Btw., that ai hat from Hailo is useless if you want to do anything besides run their precompiled models with the rpi-cam apps. Their documentation is very lackluster and the compiler is a pain to get started with and if you do get it working, there is no easy way to use your custom model. Lastly I was unable to find any information on their supposed python library...

[@Tim_Fowler]

Oh I have a used case for the AI Cam...one is going in my CubeSat!

[@MegaManNeo]

Bundled with a Argon One this would be a neat combo. Speaking of which, I find it sad that Argon cases are really the only ones that try to route every IO to the back, so people can actually use the Pi like a desktop machine or have an easier time setting it up in a rack for say a Retro Game device or small server.

[@DaHaiZhu]

They make all these accessories for the Pi5 so that next year, with the Pi6, you'll have to buy everything all over again because they'll slightly change the board layout....again

[@NickyNiclas]

Wait, did they actually make the SSD or did they source it and put their sticker on it? I really like the "AI" camera, I wonder how/if it'll work with Frigate. I've been using 3D printed bumpers and I'm also a fan!

[@marcogenovesi8570]

It's a Samsung PM991a, they just rebranded an existing OEM SSD

[@Altirix_]

9:48. imo the best way would be to have a minimum spec then specifically have a table that shows the revision and the nand used.

[@thequickestfox6106]

My cynical brain - because it's easy to approve a single vendor and make a purchase order to a single company when you are a business/education consumer. That means they're going to be able to pick up sales of accessories with a high markup in those markets.

[@AdrianBoyko]

I use 2x4 scraps and standoffs as “bumpers”

[@foogod4237]

"We might have to change it later so we don't want to give exact numbers" is *not a valid excuse.* What they're actually saying is "we don't want to have to tell you when we start selling you crap instead, so you hopefully won't notice and will keep buying it anyway". It's a sleazy and cynical way to treat your customers, and should not just be glossed over. The *correct* way to deal with that problem is to _publish the full specs_ and if you need to change it later *clearly indicate when the product changes* (and publish updated info). If the specs aren't the same as they used to be, you should *give it a new model number* so that people know *it's not actually the same device* as what they bought 6 months ago, and may not perform exactly the same.

[@MrSlipstreem]

I'm glad they've eventually released their own SSDs and suitable HATs, but they're way behind third-party manufacturers on this. I've been running a 1TB Lexar NM790 SSD on a Pimoroni NVMe Base at Gen 3 speed for over 8 months 24/7 already with blistering performance and not a single hiccup. As much as I like to support Raspberry Pi, I'm certainly not shelling out a second time on a downgrade.

[@hellcoreproductions]

Hopefully this means they progressed enough on PCB layout to make a proper slot available instead of flex connectors on an upcoming revision.

[@WattTheTech]

Agreed I have five bumpers now :) the 64GB is quick, its my fastest SD card beats out my Kingston Canvas React. Ordered the SSD to test

[@topperdude2007]

If only we had the "Raspberry Pi bumper" for all the (R.I.P.) Raspberry Pi 3's and 4's that were victims while working on our smart lab for medical research at work 🙄 It seems like one of those simple and effective products that makes us slap our forehead while saying "why didn't anyone think of this before?". Is this specific to the Pi 5 or can it be used with older Pis (3b+, 4b+, etc.)? Also, wondering if the M.2 Hailo hat would work with non-RPi hardware / processors - specifically low power x86 based systems? (*hint* wouldn't mind a video on that *hint* 😀). Great video as always - always full of useful information!

[@john_in_phoenix]

I agree, the bumper is a useful product worth purchasing. I have (so far) had good luck with the Amazon basics SD cards. An NVME is far more suited to operating system use, and would be my preference.

[@OldPoi77]

I Like the way they have a car being detected as an apple in the front of the box.

[@Level2Jeff]

Anything vaguely rectangular and black is a 'cell phone' too :D

[@jmsiener]

I just ordered a 64GB Pi branded microSD from Digi-Key for $6.49. Yeah, shipping is flat at $7 but I had other parts in my order so to me this was dirt cheap from a reliable source!

[@mtwagner]

I love 2230 NVMes. I look forward to being disappointed next week by Apple NOT using them in a new Mac Mini.

[@Level2Jeff]

Ugh, easy wins for Apple yet they keep not doing that!

[@mtwagner]

@@Level2Jeff I mean, I get it. that would add several steps to manufacturing, but stilll.

[@billkillernic]

Do you have livestream footage of you ironing out the driver bugs ? It would be very interesting to see the process and the trial and error attempts

[@Yves_Cools]

#Level 2 Jeff : speaking of microSD cards, Jeff do you happen to know why Raspberry Pi's stop working properly after several months of continuous use with extreme endurance microSD cards ? (when they stop working even powering them off and on again doesn't bring them back to a functional state, you actually have to take out the microSD card and reformat/install the OS and everything else in order to make it work properly again) Any ideas why this happens ? (it already happened to me on several models, from Pi 2B's to Pi 4B's) Have you ever had this happen to one or more of your RPi's ?

[@kspau13]

Im curious to know how many people actually use the GPIO and is it time to split the product in two. One being a small computer to be a computer and a version with GPIO where people use it. The few times I find people using the GPIO they are using the power efficient PIs.

[@krew11uvtoo23]

I hate to state the obvious, but tgat AI camera NEEDS a video. Think of pairing it to a Zero and build a Ring Doorbell on steroids. Just saying. No longer does your doorbell just ping when someone is at the door, it knows who it should be, what behaviour to warn you about ("Suspicious activity at door. What would you like done?"), see and maybe read packages, and more. Thank you for the update. I guess you can figure out my next project.

[@Reedith]

I would love the tutorial on how to move your OS to the SSD the easiest way

[@Level2Jeff]

Check out rpi-clone.jeffgeerling.com - that's what I use!

[@kenabi]

i'm infinitely more interested in a compute module with the updated chip(s). they're still stuck on the 4's.

[@tubeDude48]

Have you covered that Heat-sink you mentioned, and what A2 is all about? I just happen to buy a Sandisk Extreme 64Meg A2 without knowing about that.

[@chuckmccollim]

Thanks for your work :)

[@UNITYMusics]

Jeff, can you make a video on flight tracking with a raspberry pi paired with sdr dongle? or could possibly ask for an review unit from pinkfroot(planefinder)

[@Level2Jeff]

Planning on it, I have all the parts, even! Just haven't had time to work on a script and record the thing.

[@fedemtz6]

I have a Pi 4 and I have been wanting to get something like the bumper for ever. I have a fan hat and I use the GPIO pins for some stuff and since I leave it on 24/7 I want something that at least makes it harder to just slide down and protects the bottom. I got the official case and tried to only use the bottom part, but it didn't work for me (I don't remember why)

[@micobugija6284]

Why did Raspberry Pi make their own SSD? MONEY.

[@YanFaLi]

If you could use the NPU for ollama that would be amazing

[@frank-christiankruegel2199]

Are there any signs of a CM5 release any soon?

[@Level2Jeff]

Good question! They said 2024... and there are only a couple months left, so I'm holding out hope it'll be before the end of 2024!

[@DaHaiZhu]

So, the Pi6 on-board max NVMe SSD size will be the 2230 😥

[@Ut-s3u]

I really enjoy your videos related to the Pi because you are so thorough but thanks for the other recommended channels

[@AdrianBoyko]

This is the first I’ve heard of the TV hat. Can it be used as an SDR?

[@Level2Jeff]

Good question! I think not, the chip isn't that useful, and it only works on DV-B or something like that? Not as helpful here in the US.

[@AdrianBoyko]

@@Level2Jeff Well, the RTL-SDR was also intended to be used to receive European digital TV but it exposed the raw I/Q data and the rest is history. I just looked into the Sony chip and it looks like it only provides the demodulated MPEG Transport Stream, so it’s no good as an SDR unless somebody discovers that it actually can be configured to send I/Q instead.

[@POTThaesslich]

I thought the whole point of the ssd was to have a long term compatibility model. But now you talk about them potentially changing chips. That wouldn’t make sense

[@davidschaub7965]

I appreciate the compatibility value; but give that almost all of the SSDs and cards work in almost every PC, isn't the interoperability problem the Raspberry Pi itself? This feels like their power supply: they've set their requirements so finely that you end up needing to buy their version of a what should be a commodity part, for it to work perfectly?

[@Level2Jeff]

In the case of the Pi, it's usually a problem where some NVMe commands don't seem to work on arm64, or with the Broadcom PCIe implementation specifically, and a lot of times it's from quirks in the way the address space is assigned on the Pi. Some of these bugs are being ironed out over time, though-a lot more cards work today than just a year ago, all through software tweaks.

[@davidschaub7965]

@@Level2Jeff Yeah, computer platforms are hard. I do expect this will generally improve over time.

[@davidbubble6863]

I do think that CM5 is going to come out soon and they are just tapping to the potential profit they can get from selling their own ssd. I think the lack of detail spec on their ssd is reflection of that thinking. I could be wrong though.

[@cheesecthulhu]

Mouser has listings for the CM5 Case (search SC1753), heatsink (SC1752), and IO board (SC1751), but not the CM5. The case and heatsink are expected on 2024-11-20. No date listed for the IO Board, but the photo does show an m.2 slot.

[@Level2Jeff]

Interesting, seems like Mouser might be posting listings a bit early...

[@alch3myau]

oh what. another channel to subscribe to? Heh, ran my pi4 on 2 18650s for 4hrs yesterday!

[@Casper042]

Pi Bumper - Couldn't you print something similar with TPU ?

[@Level2Jeff]

Yep!

[@iGNUiCould]

I'm a programmer who is making a video on the $65 Banana Pi M6 with onboard AI chip and m.2 slot. I actually HAVE gotten the AI inference working and I'll show you how I did it. Stay tuned.

[@gunjja13]

You have 3d printers Jeff. You could have printed a bumper or anything like it...😁

[@Level2Jeff]

Tell that to my box full of Pi cases! :D

[@gunjja13]

@@Level2Jeff fair enough ☺. Love your content a lot by the way.

[@sleveee]

I've noticed with the 2230 nvme drives that heat becomes an issue very quickly. i've had to peel the label and stick on some small heatsinks on a couple of mine.

[@seljd]

suggestion: try out BigThreeTech Pi2? i't has Rockchip RK3566, 2GB RAM, 32GB eMMC, M.2 for another SSD (PCIe 2.1), 5G wifi, gigabit ethernet and can be powered over USB or 12-24V (screw terminal) but has only one USB 3.0

[@abhimaanmayadam5713]

Some of those PM991a nvme ssds do not play well with Debian. (or even macos for that matter). I can't say if these have different firmware over the older PM991a nvme ssds, but GParted will not work on that particular nvme ssd without it erroring out (and a few other issues but its been a while since I've had it in my machine). I'd bet that they went with that particular ssd as its super common in the 2230 size. Also macOS issues have been largely been kernel panics which have been supposedly fixed with NVMEFix.

[@reinekewf7987]

About HATs I have the Senshat. to be exactly i have 3 of them. Every one bought in different years and every one has different LEDs but all of them are Revision 1.0.

[@Level2Jeff]

Oof! Wish they'd treat board revisions better then - and maybe that explains partly why they don't want to release detailed specs on the SSD...

[@reinekewf7987]

@@Level2Jeff om my first Sensehat the joystick is backwards if you use the library for the Sensehat. I don't think all Sensehat I have are really revision 1.0 even the PCB print says that.

[@SheldonMcGee]

The create versions for the Pi itself, why not for storage? Change the hardware, change the version? Seems like an easy problem to solve.

[@SDWNJ]

Another solution for feet for Pi’s and other bare boards is to buy a pack of nylon standoffs to use for feet.

[@Level2Jeff]

Another good option! Though nylon standoffs aren't great at stiction.

[@SDWNJ]

@@Level2Jeff Yeah I got them mainly to avoid component legs from scratching up the surface I was setting the board on. If you could find tiny rubber feet (or 3D print some with flexible filament) you could add more friction.

[@roblatour3511]

Thanks Jeff!

[@ranjitmandal1612]

Very informative

[@solanumtuberosa]

The pi ssd if its cheap is a good replacement for my 64gb steam deck ssd.

[@GoldDominik893]

bigger profits, probably for the pi6 which will include a nvme slot

[@VastCNC]

Still waiting for the PI official POE hat for the 5…

[@Level2Jeff]

☠️

[@wxfield]

Ha! I've been printing "bumpers" now for the past 3 years out of TPU. Never even dawned on me that I might have a salable product.

[@Level2Jeff]

Missed opportunity! Though molded is probably a lot cheaper to manufacture than FDM

[@wxfield]

@@Level2Jeff Sure, but give me some credit. I would try to sell the TPU bumpers at first and if I saw there was a demand I'd probably make a mold and cast silicone copies for production. I wouldn't dare attempt to satisfy orders by printing one-at-a-time.

[@Level2Jeff]

@@wxfield But that would be a good way to justify building a 3D printer farm :D

[@wxfield]

@@Level2JeffHaha!! Have you paid an electric bill lately? I have and it SCREAMS find a way to do it with less power. (Which is why I (and prob you) are such big fans of these little SBC’s! 😃

[@am53n8]

It has been a while since I had to buy a microsd card, I see the mess of symbols has become even bigger

[@Level2Jeff]

lol true... they have to add 'class' and 'A' ratings, along with regulatory logos, and sometimes silly wishful-thinking speed ratings!

[@_____alyptic]

Ooh ssd? I hope it's a gooden

[@kylef2254]

1x Rpi5 OCed to 3.4Ghz is making about a dollar a month after power mining Verus Coin, Although the OPi5 does slightly better netting 1.15usd a month after power. Pretty fast roi not considering pbaas chains :)

[@rty1955]

They NEED to redesign there system to stop corrupting and SSD on a power fail! Many users run headless and when the wifi config files gets toasted due to a power fail. U need to reinstall things. Even if I make the FS R/O it still gets corrupted. They need to pir a larger cap so the device can stay powered long enough to stop all SD card access and to inhibit write

[@diabeticnomad]

good day raspberry pi releases an m.2 drive 💜

[@ccnppro]

can the newer ai kit run smaller LLMs?

[@jimpilot330]

Great video!

[@AHaensel]

Do those SD cards have wear leveling?

[@jediknight2350]

sounds great what do i need i want a cheap way to add one?

[@mr.highschoollocksmith6080]

Based off the first 6 seconds of this video, its seems that Raspberry isnt making their own SSD’s, China is.

[@nick-leffler]

They won't publish specs so they don't have to warranty it out.

[@bdhale34]

I've seen enough failure videos on ssds to know the mtbf of 1.5 million hours on ANY solid state media is an overrhwelmingly generous guess and will never actually happen. they will all die and fail and it will be far sooner than a million hours.

[@c0p0n]

But you ARE the raspberry-pi-KZbin-guy

[@kezzkezzkezz]

All these hats and still no PoE hat for Pi5

[@Level2Jeff]

"Someday" lol