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Why did Tejas not win the RMAF tender? Here are four potential reasons.

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Why did Tejas not win the RMAF tender? Here are four potential reasons.
The Tejas and FA 50 were the two remaining finalists for the contract with the Royal Malaysian Air Force, and extensive negotiations were held with each company. However, Malaysia eventually decided on the FA 50 and signed a contract to purchase 18 light combat fighter aircraft.
India was one step ahead of the contract when both businesses set their offerings according to Malaysia's specifications, but Malaysia still went with the FA 50. Let's have a short understanding of the reasons why Tejas lost the RMAF contract.
#Tejas #FA50

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@FitriShukri
@FitriShukri Жыл бұрын
Malaysia wanted a supersonic fighter trainer with light combat capabilities to replace the Hawk 100 and 200. That is what South Korea provided, a proven fighter trainer with light combat capabilities with the FA50. India on the other hand marketed the Tejas as a small fighter aircraft which can combat against bigger fighters, with little mention about trainer capabilities. In the end South Korea wins because they provided what the Malaysian wanted. Its that simple. It has nothing to do with politics or business deals.
@Shashank-g6i
@Shashank-g6i Жыл бұрын
Tejas was ahead in many terms like payload ,cost, maintainance
@AdityaKamalSinhaCRollAdm
@AdityaKamalSinhaCRollAdm Жыл бұрын
Exactly, that's why this online brouhaha is irrelevant. India has developed Tejas as replacement for its existing fleet of Mig 21 Bison which it is going to phase out by end of 2025, moreover a new trainer is under development with capabilities similar to trainer and light combat roles IN HAL.
@Xentradi97
@Xentradi97 Жыл бұрын
@@Shashank-g6i Nope. Only on paper. Tejas can't deliver, behind schedule even for delivery to its own airforce. It's not just Tejas problem. It's an overall weapon's development issue in Indian military.
@peak_911
@peak_911 Жыл бұрын
not only on paper, it has no issue, the only problem is manufacturing which will be solved as now india itself has ordered for 100 tejas, production line will be built, anyone with brains knows tejas is superior to what malaysia chose@@Xentradi97 the decision was based due to geopolitics, accept it and stop degrading tejas when clearly it's not india's fault except the production issue
@mohba01
@mohba01 9 ай бұрын
South Korea and Malaysia are vassals. They are bound to listen to their masters in the west. Very understandable
@bgshin2879
@bgshin2879 Жыл бұрын
After 5 months of this report, the deal was finally sealed with Korea. To sum up; 1. RMAF and GoM sent RFP and ROI to KAI and Korean gov. They sent it to just Korea. China, India, Russia approached them unsolicited later. 2. Lots of political manoeuvring by Malaysian gov delayed the process. Tejas Mk1 was completed in its development and FA50 started work on Block 20. This further complicated the process as the project became confusing to say the least. 3. Koreans emphasised about new BVR capability offered by new US made ASEA radar and AIM120. There are proposals for larger conformal tanks, and EW suite. Good thing was, the production line is extremely active with new orders from Thailand (additional order), Philippines (additional order), Indonesia (additional order), Iraq (additional order) and Poland (new order), hence the batch price is likely to be the lowest in near future. Also repeated purchases by operating nations helped to boost the confidence. 4. Indian airforce openly refused to purchase or use Tejas Mk1. The plane was developed to replace now retired Mig21 (1800 operational). Yet the purchased by the Indian gov was 86 only. It was either Tejas Mk1 was 20 times better in operational coverage than Mig 21 or it failed to live up to expectations. Furthermore, there were media reports that Tejas Mk1 parts were not interchangeable with other planes. ie, the parts were hand crafted to each plane!!!! This scared RMAF a lot. This is an evidence of lack of precision engineering expected from a military airplane. The Indian offer of Su MRO center was also not terribly appealing given Russian sanctions and quality issues with India made parts. 5. Weapons advantage. The only advantage Tejas Mk1 had was possible integration of Bhramos missile. Yet Korea successfully tested and announced integration of its own super sonic anti ship missiles to FA50. Also integration of AIM120 for FA50 PL (or Block 20) with US ASEA radar given FA50 that much more credibility. 6. Geopolitics. If Malaysia is to go to a war, it is likely to be with China given the territorial water dispute with China and ASEAN. In ASEAN, Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand is using FA50 and its variants. This interoperability is a crucial point for the conflict created by China. Tajas is not interoperable with any other ASEAN airforce. Surprisingly, many nations examined Tejas (Malaysia, Egypt, Argentina etc) and they all rejected Tejas. Especially, Argentina had no alternatives yet rejected Tejas. It means something.
@luarbiasawaras8700
@luarbiasawaras8700 Жыл бұрын
Custom spare part for each aircraft is so uni soviet style, in which most of indian AF's asset was consist of. The builder was trying to create Mig 21 version 2.0
@saiko9472
@saiko9472 Жыл бұрын
The quality of Tejas because we all know the Iphone Made In India is much lower quality than made in china
@arkapravaroy1061
@arkapravaroy1061 Жыл бұрын
only malaysia rejected. Rest are observing . Dont spread half truth .
@andreinarangel6227
@andreinarangel6227 Жыл бұрын
Argentina CANNOT purchase the "Tejas". It has a US-engine and a British ejection seat. Thus veto on sale until Argentina formally acknowledges UK sovereignty over the Falklands.
@bernardotorres4659
@bernardotorres4659 Жыл бұрын
Very good comment, it says almost everything one would need to know .
@ManMan-lt8nw
@ManMan-lt8nw Жыл бұрын
Nobody use tejas. Everybody use fa50.
@youcantata
@youcantata Жыл бұрын
No foreign air force will buy Tejas fighter unless Indian air force buys and operates it in quantity. Indian air force should buy at least 200 Tejas to replace its aging Mig-21 fleet and Jaguar, and Mirage 2000's. Number is important for long term support prospect of Tejas.
@Robdua1968
@Robdua1968 Жыл бұрын
Yes the Malaysian airforce will buy proven aircraft above their budget. If they want weapons integrated they will spend more. Very wise idea.
@Robdua1968
@Robdua1968 Жыл бұрын
Yes the Malaysian airforce will buy proven aircraft above their budget. If they want weapons integrated they will spend more. Very wise idea.
@ajay262134
@ajay262134 Жыл бұрын
Not right...you can build the most advance jet, but people will only buy it say 25% for its tech and 75% political.
@Robdua1968
@Robdua1968 Жыл бұрын
@@ajay262134 75 % commission. Did Malaysia forget what happened to their economy after commenting about Kashmir.
@the80386
@the80386 Жыл бұрын
@@Robdua1968 so your plan is to threaten another country for not buying unproven stuff? I don't think Malaysia is eager to do business with an entity that threatens them.
@chinhockkhoophilip329
@chinhockkhoophilip329 Жыл бұрын
Malaysia paid some portion with palm oil , final assembly in Msia ( technology transfer ). TUDM pilot familiar with US base F18. Spare part & expertise from Korea..which is very good idea in term of maintenanance point of view. price is not extremely high consider Msia get FA50, the most advance version, with sniper advance targeting pod by lockead martin, GBU-38JDAM, AGM 65 Maverick, AAR probe. On top of that, possible external fuel tank and use of AIM120 is underway.... By the way, it's AESA radar...
@chinhockkhoophilip329
@chinhockkhoophilip329 Жыл бұрын
in addition, FA50 Block 20 already have very high % of Glass cockpit...this is very important in order to lighten the work load of the pilot...
@Xentradi97
@Xentradi97 Жыл бұрын
Final assembly in MY? Not likely for just 18 jet orders. If it was 50 or more maybe.
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko 11 ай бұрын
@@Xentradi97Malaysia is buying 36 jets in 2 phases. So, another squadron of 18 jets will come in the future and it's KAI who offered final assembly and regional MRO in Malaysia
@Xentradi97
@Xentradi97 11 ай бұрын
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko The latter 18 is an option and MY Airforce will be involved in a partial assembly it seems. Either way hope it works out for both countries.
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko 11 ай бұрын
@@Xentradi97 It's not an option. It's Malaysia's Capability 2055(CAP55) modernization program to turn from 5 aircraft to 2 for easy maintenance, and Malaysia's doctrine of mixing highs and lows aircraft capability. It's most likely a mixture of FA-50+T-50 and a new MRCA in 2035, most likely KF-21 or TAI TF-X.
@wseejattan
@wseejattan Жыл бұрын
India needs to build history then the confidence will come. Build them and let it prove out in the field.
@sayfolman7752
@sayfolman7752 Жыл бұрын
@Cool Sparkz Malaysia Close To West Really🤔
@jatinjai4459
@jatinjai4459 Жыл бұрын
@Cool Sparkz Here comes the usaf fleet pilot. Aee piece of junk, if you dont know shit about it, then don’t speak shit like you are. Its matter of fact that its one of the few aircraft which has ton of firepower option. Plus India put these deal to Malaysia bcoz HAL want to improvise and develop the Tejas more to develop it it needs funds which are hard to allocate in developing nation, India dont have stock pile of cash like your ex-pm has.
@sp-gu5wn
@sp-gu5wn Жыл бұрын
@Cool Sparkz It's you who is junk with your shitty mouth.
@niweshlekhak9646
@niweshlekhak9646 Жыл бұрын
@Cool Sparkz KA-50 was developed under the supervision of Lockhead Martin to be korean equivalent to F-16s.
@narayanbarath3170
@narayanbarath3170 Жыл бұрын
@cool sparkz ,don't insult humiliate Tejas jet ,it's decent product Show some decency
@bangmo7
@bangmo7 Жыл бұрын
FA-50 has great potential. (1) Operation cost is very low. Several thousand dollars per hour. (2) Availability is very high. For KAF, it is almost 90%, which means at any moment within about 22 hours per day on average you can fly it. That for F-35A with the USAF is under 70%. (3) Compatibility is very powerful. An experienced FA-50 pilot can fly a F-16 after 10 or 20 hours training. And more than 60% of parts are common with F-16. Still KAF has been lukewarm with regard to upgrading it. (AESA radar and medium range air-to-air missile and so on), since they want to procure more F-35A's and KF-21's (which is under development). However, Poland pushed Korea and Lockheed to upgrade. AESA radar, AIM-120 missile, in-flight refueling, ... With this upgrade, FA-50 has become a 'smaller' F-16. It is only natural that Malaysia chose it. --
@rainnelmaclang4803
@rainnelmaclang4803 11 ай бұрын
KAI does not upgrade FA-50 with BVR radar and missiles or make a Single-seat versions because Lockheed-Martin wouldn't allow them to. Otherwise the KA-50 will be just as good as an F-16 but cheaper to buy and operate. It's all about money.
@LooxJJ
@LooxJJ 9 ай бұрын
@@rainnelmaclang4803 LM does not have any legal rights for the development of FA-50. LM only owns a technology transfer rights. FA-50 can be equipped with most of AESA radars in the market, plus it is currently in service with AIM-120C/D.
@rainnelmaclang4803
@rainnelmaclang4803 9 ай бұрын
@@LooxJJ LM can stop KAI from further developing the FA-50 into a single-seat variant with AIM-120 missile and AESA radar, even without "legal rights". Don't be naïve. To convince LM to agree, KAI should let LM know how much money both of them can make should LM winds down the F-16 production and focus on the new FA-50 single-seat variant.
@LooxJJ
@LooxJJ 9 ай бұрын
@@rainnelmaclang4803 As of Oct 2023, 12 units has been delivered which are all Block 20 version, which includes the Israeli Elta EL/M-2032 mechanical radar, and the software upgrade and wiring necessary for the aircraft to obtain BVR capability, which can use current Polish AIM-120C. The remaining 36 (which is planned to be start the delivery by December of 2023) aircraft will be produced in the PL version, which will incorporate the AESA PhantomStrike radar with AIM-9X and AIM-120D control units. FA-50PL will be the replacement for the Polish MiG-29 - and will be inter-operated with current F-16 Blk 52.
@haleemgugel7450
@haleemgugel7450 Жыл бұрын
as a malaysian i prefer to work with korean rather than indian. not offence but we have experience
@satyabehera5013
@satyabehera5013 Жыл бұрын
yes.experience of assembling
@zygote8888
@zygote8888 Жыл бұрын
Nothing offensive anymore can prefer what meets their requirements
@thepalebluedot4171
@thepalebluedot4171 Жыл бұрын
Instead you should deal with your Pakistanis Jihad-Sharia brothers , they will sell you their Chinese made buraak jf 17 .... Beware while flying it, that thing can go beyond the 7 heavens ...👍👍
@Asifcdx
@Asifcdx Жыл бұрын
@@satyabehera5013 ohhh....so is India the manufacturing hub of world ? How many countries in the world u have trade surplus..... Do u know be it assembling or manufacturing... Malaysia has more coverage in technology products?
@mohba01
@mohba01 9 ай бұрын
​@@Asifcdxwhat does Malaysia indigenously manufacture ?
@pccitizen1647
@pccitizen1647 Жыл бұрын
With no disrespect mean, one will not prefer to buy an indian made car, let alone an aeroplane. Korea technology & quality is undoubtedly superior.
@peak_911
@peak_911 Жыл бұрын
on what basis you said this? indian cars are performing extremely well and their safety ratings are better than korean ones in india, talk about bikes too where Korea is no where some of the comments here are extreme bullshit, Koreans are superior only in Mobiles Japanese American German Indian Korean This is how it works for cars lol, clearly you got no knowledge Designs- Italian are superior then british or german The only reason tejas was rejected was because of manufacturing and tejas price, otherwise it is far superior to the korean counterpart no one can deny that except some bunch of fools with no knowledge of things, india is doing well in bikes, cars, space tech, fintech and is far superior in all of these when compared to korea
@peak_911
@peak_911 Жыл бұрын
this is what happens when you watch too much k-pop lol, now if you have some facts to counter then please do🙏🏻 i do want to gain more knowledge
@JohnLee-db9zt
@JohnLee-db9zt 4 ай бұрын
@@peak_911do you even know what South Korea produces? You are so ignorant.
@dramaworld5987
@dramaworld5987 3 ай бұрын
But you will buy range rover in place of korean car which is with technology too own by indian company, that's what perception do.
@mercedesbenz3751
@mercedesbenz3751 3 ай бұрын
South korea technology is superior that's why they can't send a lander to moon or send a satellite to mars. Or can't have an anti-satellite missile. . Things are not as easy as you say.
@hazlinabdulhamid7461
@hazlinabdulhamid7461 Жыл бұрын
Congrats Malaysia..❤️😊❤️🇲🇾
@rakeshbarman3486
@rakeshbarman3486 Жыл бұрын
only reason is our own airforce doesn't have sufficient fleet of tejas and we don't have history behind it, we need to build reputation first by inducting tejas in large numbers in our own fleet ,
@JAYJAY-ch4ik
@JAYJAY-ch4ik Жыл бұрын
The Indian jet that failed for decades that is barely 4th gen and in which Indian airforce already said it’s not suitable even for them to use 😂. Why would malaysia even choose it LOL.
@user-xu6by5cj8v
@user-xu6by5cj8v 2 ай бұрын
More than 190 Tejas fighter jets ordered by Indian Air Force uh Lamo!!
@aumarigan
@aumarigan Жыл бұрын
FA-50 is combat proven in air to ground operations.
@mercedesbenz3751
@mercedesbenz3751 3 ай бұрын
Where was it proven?
@ivanwolf5610
@ivanwolf5610 2 ай бұрын
@@mercedesbenz3751 Philippines used it to strife and kill rebels
@OperationEndGame
@OperationEndGame Ай бұрын
@@mercedesbenz3751 Phil. Air Force…
@jiaweichew3370
@jiaweichew3370 Жыл бұрын
From what I red, the FA50 is basically a better plane simply because it has good integration with components, can already be integrated with existing systems (since Malaysia also operates some F/A 18s) and will be able to share parts with potential allies. (Malaysia has a mutual defense agreement with Singapore in the even an invasion happens like it did in 1941 and since other ASEAN partners also operate the FA50 it would make sense if they were to challenge China since bases would have preexisting infrastructure and parts).
@NewmaticKe
@NewmaticKe Жыл бұрын
Singapore and Malaysia did not exist in 1941 and the former does not operate any LCA
@user-nb2cl9ci2b
@user-nb2cl9ci2b 4 ай бұрын
I'm Korean, but I think Tejas is a very attractive model too. I think Indian defense companies are very underrated
@awhig2474
@awhig2474 Жыл бұрын
As an Indian, I will. Say Congrats Korea But I still love Tejas (तेज्स)
@aungaisum8654
@aungaisum8654 Жыл бұрын
Actually is an US aircraft lol. All core technologies are from US lol.
@awhig2474
@awhig2474 Жыл бұрын
@@aungaisum8654 LMAO Which class are you studying in??
@justanotherperson2576
@justanotherperson2576 Жыл бұрын
​@@aungaisum8654 are you talking about Tejas? It's not us inspired, I can tell you atleast that. Ada design engineers consulted Dassault of France at the inception of the project back in the '80s.
@jahurz93
@jahurz93 Жыл бұрын
Malaysian is not known to buy unproven platform unless 1) one sided barter trade deals 2) technology transfer Tejas has to push the two agenda very hard for them to take it. The french have been good at it with loads of scandals involve with the gov of Malaysia. Malaysia has made continuous lapse in judgement in procurement or self local assembly failures, stuff like the 6 gowind ships, Failed reframe MB-339 without engine replacement, Failed batch 2 orders of 12 remaining EC725 helicopters etc. Mounting issues like these have made the Generals involving the Navy and air force to be very vocal against the gov of Malaysia on its asset renewal and procurement process. Malaysia has wasted a lot of funds trying to build or order unreliable stuffs in the name of technology transfer and barter trade. This results in Malaysia's deteriorating defense policy that has been creeping in since 2010. As of 2022 it has 40 medium lift helicopters down to 12, 44 multi role fighters down to 26, 40% of the Navy's missiles expiring since 2016 and 6 so called self assembled literal combat ships nowhere in sight. KAI-50 has been proven in quite a few countries. Also interlink capability with the Hornets. KAI's Direct delivery will at least bring less issues that has plague Malaysia before.
@JetlineMarvel
@JetlineMarvel Жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼
@mahdiismail8853
@mahdiismail8853 Жыл бұрын
Good analysis. That's the reason WHY Malaysian voters voted out the previous bloody corrupted government!👍🏻
@RyanNjs11
@RyanNjs11 Жыл бұрын
Thailand, Indonesia and others buyer is using T 50 Golden Eagle...RMAF is purchasing the new varian and the latest version FA 50 block 20...
@absolutelyabsolute4671
@absolutelyabsolute4671 Жыл бұрын
FA 50 is basically a lite version of the F-16 that's why.
@uniquetravel1070
@uniquetravel1070 Жыл бұрын
Tejas is made under Indian management, means Talent is overruled by monopoly and politics.
@DOI_ARTS
@DOI_ARTS Жыл бұрын
Philippines prove tha FA50 can work as attack and bomber, the experience in Marawi war is valuable
@wjj7488
@wjj7488 Жыл бұрын
😂 Sure to win with any flying toy as long as the opponent has no anti aircraft missile .
@taqimmunir5819
@taqimmunir5819 4 ай бұрын
Hahaha. Experience to attack opponents without an air defence system. Or anti aircraft, fa50 not even experienced any real dog fight or war. How can that be so called "battle proven".
@Universe68839
@Universe68839 4 ай бұрын
@@taqimmunir5819 FA-50 Shoot down an F-22 in a dog fight simulation between US and Philippines.
@aap03xfgqs
@aap03xfgqs 2 ай бұрын
​@taqimmunir5819 regular drills between allies, exercises and used in bombing ISIS targets? Quit yapping
@taqimmunir5819
@taqimmunir5819 2 ай бұрын
@@aap03xfgqs hahaha. Bombing land targets without any proper air defence system can get the title battle proven. just use commercial airlines or transport aircraft equipped with bombs also can be battled proven that way.
@ThamilRajan-qv4gf
@ThamilRajan-qv4gf Жыл бұрын
Seriously speaking Tejas looks more like Superman in flight than a jet fighter
@Rarira303
@Rarira303 Жыл бұрын
Tejas looks more to 'flying samosa' for me..
@ThamilRajan-qv4gf
@ThamilRajan-qv4gf Жыл бұрын
@@Rarira303 IN fact I am no fighter pilot. But there is a saying among fighter pilots that goes A plane that looks good flies good. Don't know how far this is correct. Neither, do I know how the Tejas performs pitched against planes of similar/equal class.
@zainolbadruddin
@zainolbadruddin Жыл бұрын
Many indians comments here.... Blame Malaysia not to choose Tejas... Hello... this is our money.... Our right to spend it hahaha.... ask your country first......why don't they use it .... What a typical 'pariah' minded.....
@saikatbiswas127
@saikatbiswas127 11 ай бұрын
Yes it's absolutely alright. You should buy what's best for your nation. And by rejecting our birds. Malaysia has shown that our jeta still needs more advancement and technology standards. We are new in this domain of making jet fighters. I hope with the passage of time we can make better jets. And serve Malaysia with better jets and a cheaper deal. Your Friend from Bharat🇮🇳
@matreplaa3756
@matreplaa3756 9 ай бұрын
Pesawat tk dk org beli 😂😂😂 .. nasib kerajaan tk pilih TEJAS. Aku pon lebih pilih FA 5O🇰🇷 ... tentera india sendiri cuma guna 9 jet TEJAS tu 😂😂 . Padahal jet buatan 🇮🇳 sendiri ... diorng lebih bnyk beli dri negara lain. Untuk aset militer diorng , Dibanding guna jetbuatan mereka sendiri tu ( TEJAS ).Klau kita beli TEJAS tu . Bermakna cuma kita dn 🇮🇳 ja yg guna TEJAS , lebih memalukan , 🇮🇳 si pembuatnya sendiri cuma guna 9 unit jet TEJAS 😂😂 . Sedangkan kita nk order 18 .. mungkin mereka akan guna duit kita beli 18 unit TEJAS , untk dana diorng beli 10/11 jet dri 🇷🇺🇺🇸🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇫🇷 tambahkan jet tempur untk diorng 😂😂
@James-9999
@James-9999 9 ай бұрын
@@saikatbiswas127should send some to Ukraine, did wonders for our himars and javelin sales, and turkeys drones.
@mercedesbenz3751
@mercedesbenz3751 3 ай бұрын
​@@matreplaa3756who said India only operates 9 Tejas jets?
@nagarajah8930
@nagarajah8930 3 ай бұрын
Racist
@cholachethtepravipard7826
@cholachethtepravipard7826 Жыл бұрын
FA 50 looks better
@wstj4240
@wstj4240 Жыл бұрын
Nothing to do with religion. Reliability is the answer. It uses a single GE F404. It is basically an American jet with proven GE F404 American engine and American avionics. It is called the little F18 Hornet. At usd51.2 million a piece, it is a good deal. And Malaysia operates F18D hornet which use the same GE F404 engine. Maintainance team no issue.
@noorhishamosman9901
@noorhishamosman9901 Жыл бұрын
It is also because of the engine spare part, fa 50 using the same engine part as the fa 18 Hornet which the rmaf is using/having currently.
@evilgod6887
@evilgod6887 Жыл бұрын
both are using same engine
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
Both Tejas and FA-50 are using the same engine.
@Robdua1968
@Robdua1968 Жыл бұрын
Why Phillipines has grounded 75% of its FA 50 now.
@night8285
@night8285 Жыл бұрын
@@Robdua1968 I don't think your comment has a connection to the thread.
@Robdua1968
@Robdua1968 Жыл бұрын
@@night8285 why then South Korea not supplying spares to Phillipines.
@cemo3292
@cemo3292 5 ай бұрын
Because Malaysia chose quality
@csnation
@csnation Жыл бұрын
Why? Because Malaysia needed a trainer with a capability to fight. Tejas is marketed as a fighter design. That's all it is. Also with South East Asia already using FA-50s and its variants (Indo, Thailand, Philippines), there will be a guaranteed support platform in the region. KAI ain't no fool and will definitely pivot on that. As buying jets is not just about combat prowess (which I am pretty sure any of the combat fighters in the bid would have blown the F-50 away) but also the use and logistics and future support. Also using an F-50 is tacit support that the region is pivoting towards Western influence (not directly since this is a Korean product with USA support). As this allows future purchase of American birds in future if there an option.
@polarbear7
@polarbear7 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact India is only country in the region which usa can't Sanction ! 😁 Just 5 days ago India got 3 different engine's TOT from USA ! it's general electrics GE f404 GE f414 AND new varient of GE engine specially gonna be designed for our 5th gen AMCA fighter jet prototype 😁👍! GE f414 for Tejas mk2 which is gonna be ready till 2027 And TedBF (twin engine deck base fighter) Which gonna be for our navy with our new rafale M navy variants! On our new aircraft carrier 🐒👍!
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko Жыл бұрын
Nonsense. Tejas is marketed as LCA. Why do you think it's called LCA Tejas? Anyway, South Korea won and Malaysia chose FA-50
@csnation
@csnation Жыл бұрын
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko Yeah its a fighter not a trainer that's why it failed. A trainer aircraft has many built-in functionalities that support training. You simply don't give new pilots or a new airforce a F-16 or Mig-29 as their first bird. The Tejas is definitely built more as a fighter which probably do not meet the requirements. Hence it failed like all the other fighter aircraft in the bid. Also the fact the Korean bird can be converted to a fighter is a plus. But bottomline its a trainer, you don't fight with it unless you got no choice.
@SL-ed4vg
@SL-ed4vg Жыл бұрын
Malaysia and Indonesia might be fighting a common foe in the future. They need to be able to host, repair, and service each others warplanes in time of war if their local airbases are temporily taken out by runway cratering munitions or cruise missiles. Since Indonesia already flies FA50, it makes sense for RMAF to buy them.
@jojoanggono3229
@jojoanggono3229 Жыл бұрын
This a very insightful look at the theatre.
@alanwilly10
@alanwilly10 Жыл бұрын
Ehem2 ......china
@bramantyoprahoro7284
@bramantyoprahoro7284 Жыл бұрын
Indonesia operated T-50i variant. In process to be brought into FA-50 standard.
@bramantyoprahoro7284
@bramantyoprahoro7284 Жыл бұрын
@@alanwilly10 We can assume it loosely based on high-level visit.
@sambo1476
@sambo1476 Жыл бұрын
Majapahit are dangerous when their army is strong..they will attack weak neighbour..so malaysia should be prepared...🤣🤣🤣
@kkhalifah1019
@kkhalifah1019 Жыл бұрын
The Tejas is completely alien to this region. In fact, it is alien to everyone except India.
@firdausidris6367
@firdausidris6367 5 ай бұрын
same like the concept of India as superpower, alien to everyone except India.
@markk.7531
@markk.7531 Жыл бұрын
I think religion has a part in Malaysian decision, it may sound silly but that is my opinion
@pokokpisang6072
@pokokpisang6072 Жыл бұрын
what makes you think that way?
@markk.7531
@markk.7531 Жыл бұрын
@@pokokpisang6072 Indian tejas has an Israelis armaments and you know the muslims arch enemy is Israel just one example of few others that’s related to religions
@pokokpisang6072
@pokokpisang6072 Жыл бұрын
@@markk.7531 i see... but FA-50 (South Korea's) also has armaments from Israel too. and i don't think its related with religion😅
@markk.7531
@markk.7531 Жыл бұрын
@@pokokpisang6072 its a matter of sympathetic influence. India is not liked by many muslim nations because of Pakistan ( muslim country) and muslim countries tend to support each other at least by moral support against the heathen nations. I may be wrong but this is what I think
@pokokpisang6072
@pokokpisang6072 Жыл бұрын
@@markk.7531 Malaysia is a neutral country, they will not take sides and interfere in personal affairs between other countries even (Muslim countries). and will not speak out or criticize something if it does not exceed the limit, except for humanitarian matters. if you see the bilateral relationship between india and malaysia is very good, so that is not the issue, in my opinion they chose fa-50 because it fits the budget and the specification of the jet they want that's all.
@mohdhalmymdyusoff5836
@mohdhalmymdyusoff5836 Жыл бұрын
Malaysia requires both FLIT & LCA roles as currently done by BAE Hawk 108/208. T-50 is suitable for FLIT roles as it has been used in Korea, Indonesia, Iraq and Thailand. For LCA roles ...FA-50 currently it is in use in Korea and Philippines (Soon Poland). FLIT functions is more required before pilots were move to use other aircraft like F/A-18 Hornet or SU-30MKM or any Aircraft they will buy for MRCA later. LCA may supplement the function of MRCA in the future like what Korean are using together with F-16, F-15 and KF-21 (future). Same with India Tejas ... to supplement Rafale and SU-30MKI. These aircraft is not air superiority or MRCA that compete with current or future generation fighter aircraft but shall be good enough against small or older/current generation of enemy target or aircraft ... including intercepting and patrolling roles unlike MRCA. Personally ... the failure for Tejas is due to it is marketed as frontline fighter aircraft instead of LCA or FLIT. Whereas FA-50 & T-50 are both marketed as Base Fighter Trainer and Light Combat Aircraft (LCA). Most competition (win or loss) for T-50 is for FLIT roles (Singapore, US, Airforce, US Navy, Iraq, Egypt, Israel, Thailand, Indonesia etc.) in addition for LCA roles which fit Malaysian requirements, unlike Tejas which have doubtful FLIT track record (not being Indian FLIT or planned to be a FLIT) but more as a fighter aircraft, to compete with JF-17 only but not other Pakistanis or Chinese Fighter Je or simple Ground Attack like what Philippines has done. It was the same reason why Malaysia have Hawk 108/208 before.
@ahmadputin459
@ahmadputin459 Жыл бұрын
Panjang Tuan explain
@Robdua1968
@Robdua1968 Жыл бұрын
@@goofy2295 how did you Chinese aircrafts are superior. Do you have any data to validate. We know about one Chinese aircraft called Junk fighter 17 which is operated by Pakistan, Myanmar and Nigeria. At present 80% are grounded due to spares. New spares don't fit as Chinese don't know from where it had procured those parts.
@Robdua1968
@Robdua1968 Жыл бұрын
@Xarifa Zee why Chinese use it when it is best aircraft
@kintho1
@kintho1 Жыл бұрын
Lagi satu. Korea is to commission a 4.x fighter (semi stealth) where Indonesia is also an investor. Looking a few years down the line, no "normal" government can afford a US or European replacement for our Sukhois and Migs. Buying the Korean fighter may be the most logical option.
@Robdua1968
@Robdua1968 Жыл бұрын
@@kintho1 it is good to know that Korea is building engine, radar, avionics, EW, ECS, etc of its own for its 4.x fighter. For semi stealth aircraft they must be building above to be stealthy by themselves as no other countries will supply these stealth technologies. How many billions is allocated for this fighter and what is the percentage of investment of Indonesia.
@juzailihamid6968
@juzailihamid6968 Жыл бұрын
Malaysia didn't want delta design aircraft to teach newbies fighter pilot because delta wing aircraft difficult to take basic manuver
@awhig2474
@awhig2474 Жыл бұрын
Sorry Sir.... The Beauty of Delta is that it is more maneuverable This is due to a more are on wingspan, which causes better lift and better maneuverability and more drag. Take the example of F1 car tyres,.... They are kept so wide to increase traction and thereforw better control ane maneuverability But more traction causes more drag or friction. Maneuverability and Drag need to balanced. But Delta is always good for Training
@biker5719
@biker5719 Жыл бұрын
@@awhig2474 Delta wing lose speed in turns
@awhig2474
@awhig2474 Жыл бұрын
@@biker5719 Possible, because they have slightly more Drag but better lift On the other hand, conventional wings (with separate tail and main wings) face drag due to Turbulence at each wing end... As I said, in aircraft design, every design has a pros and cons..... You have to balance them
@bernardotorres4659
@bernardotorres4659 Жыл бұрын
Very enlightening responses , all .
@azzzz222
@azzzz222 Жыл бұрын
Tejas junk
@heyyy_itsjk
@heyyy_itsjk Жыл бұрын
Now FA50 is junked and downed by malay 😂😂
@azzzz222
@azzzz222 Жыл бұрын
@@heyyy_itsjk 😂😂🤣🤣 no country want buy tejas ,at least Poland choose FA50 not Tejas 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@whoami.67
@whoami.67 29 күн бұрын
Malaysia was saved from a huge loss, congratulations Malaysia for taking a timely decision.
@sreedharanaidu3175
@sreedharanaidu3175 Жыл бұрын
India should test Tejas in combat condition. It has zero combat experience and nobody knows HAL manufacturing speed and quality, spare part quality and abailability etc. Malaysians are familiar with Korean quality, customer service etc. Marketing cannot beat reality. 200 FA-50 sold. How many Tejas sold? Perhaps India should lease a few Tejas to a country in conflict and have it "blooded". Pride and patriotism alone doesn't help to sell a fighter jet.
@SnapDragon6101
@SnapDragon6101 Жыл бұрын
That's because the Tejas are the worse jet fighters ever built.
@sarojamillott4027
@sarojamillott4027 Жыл бұрын
so you flew one of them?
@TD402dd
@TD402dd Жыл бұрын
It seems the agreement between Poland and KAI may have influenced the decision in Malaysia.
@Robdua1968
@Robdua1968 Жыл бұрын
Is Malaysia not influenced by Phillipines as it has to ground 75% of its FA 50 aircrafts.
@soysauce4540
@soysauce4540 Жыл бұрын
@@Robdua1968 not really cuz Poland choice can be take as part of Malaysia military system... Malaysia military use many system from Poland so yeah ae wait for Poland decision to be make....
@soysauce4540
@soysauce4540 Жыл бұрын
@@Robdua1968 but maybe Marawi battle that happen also prove something to Malaysia that this shit already in battle mode once...
@nasirramli3601
@nasirramli3601 Жыл бұрын
@@Robdua1968 Philippines ni money for maintenance FA 50 😅
@Robdua1968
@Robdua1968 Жыл бұрын
@@nasirramli3601 Phillipines has got money to buy missiles from India how cannot they have money to buy spare parts.
@perplex3023
@perplex3023 Жыл бұрын
Malaysia made a good choice The fa50 perfectly matches their criteria ..
@abdulmalek2025
@abdulmalek2025 Жыл бұрын
Tejas has not proven herself yet. How many countries have bougth this jet compared to the Korean jet?
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
Indian airforce is top 5 airforce in the world. If they are using it and reccomending it. That is proof enough.
@MuhammadUsman-xk6ir
@MuhammadUsman-xk6ir Жыл бұрын
@@direwolf7491 IAF did not indict this fighter in good numbers. Second is whih weapon package and capability you are offering. And there are many other things.
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
@@MuhammadUsman-xk6ir And what number is "Good" number according to you? There are already 40 jets inducted. In another 3-4 months there will be 50 or more with the IAF.
@MuhammadUsman-xk6ir
@MuhammadUsman-xk6ir Жыл бұрын
@@direwolf7491 potential customers are not so much interested in how much you will induct. They will see what already have done, the experience etc.
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
@@MuhammadUsman-xk6ir 40 have been inducted that is a decent number already and their experience is excellent. IAF said Tejas is the best in its category. Like I asked you what is a good number according to you. For me 40 is a decent number.
@krishna_Bharath
@krishna_Bharath Жыл бұрын
Tejas should be first given to IAF(Indian Air Force) and then only it should be given to other friendly countries.
@krishna_Bharath
@krishna_Bharath 4 ай бұрын
@dellyspice I know your Jf17 you are thinking. Chinese scrap no one wants to buy
@krishna_Bharath
@krishna_Bharath 4 ай бұрын
@dellyspice check Myanmar Air Force grounded and repenting why they bought the useless JF17. All of them are grounded
@dilipbaokar5776
@dilipbaokar5776 Жыл бұрын
HAL has to ponder over the problem deeply about marketing strategy for the future.
@namazlur78
@namazlur78 Жыл бұрын
To be fair Tejas is still in early mark 1 while FA-50 now in Block 20 stage & the malaysian government love offsets. The final assembly line in Malaysia. If India can offer something better like transfer of technology on radar building i think it will chosen
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
WHAT?!! FA-50 block 20 doesn't exist. It is still on paper. Tejas mk1a has completed first flight and almost all tests are completed also. Tejas mk1 is already in the airforce. Get some information before making nonsense comments like this. Malaysia is a corrupt country. It doesn't deserve anything.
@massiah1298
@massiah1298 Жыл бұрын
well on paper tejas is much better aircraft... if we compare the RCS, Takeoff weight, Service cieling, thrust , avionics and gs... its Malaysias fault that they havent chose tejas.. I think mostly because of Israeli component.. as they dont recognise Israel as a country.
@namazlur78
@namazlur78 Жыл бұрын
@@massiah1298 not true. Since KAI-FA50 also got components from ELTA Israel. Really you are blaming customers for not buying from you? If that is so i am glad Malaysia didn’t buy from India. As i said, Malaysian love offsets for the economy
@vinodkaka5225
@vinodkaka5225 Жыл бұрын
@@namazlur78 India had also agreed to provide transfer of technology with Tejas manufacturing in Malaysia.. Whatever malaysian was asking for India was agreed to provide much more than that of what korean has offered to the malaysian & not only that India was offering spare parts & other vital components & to look after the servicing and upgradation of malaysian Su30 fleet and not just that Tejas was the only fighter aircraft offering the option to operate with both American & Russian weapons which malaysia has been using with its F18 & Su30 fleets separately which no other fighter jets can offer to the malaysian therefore at every aspect Tejas was much ahead of its competitors in every aspects but still not makes headway only because of Political reasons... And that's what precisely Former Royal Malaysian Airforce retired officer has pointed out in one of the interview in the Daily Mail journal
@Robdua1968
@Robdua1968 Жыл бұрын
Tejas has 0 accident record what FA 50
@cabinlim3684
@cabinlim3684 Жыл бұрын
The number of fa-50 fighter jets operating is more than 200.But how many Tejas are there?
@cabinlim3684
@cabinlim3684 Жыл бұрын
It will produce up to 1,000 units later.
@ardamizal
@ardamizal Жыл бұрын
@@cabinlim3684 😆😆
@MuhammadUsman-xk6ir
@MuhammadUsman-xk6ir Жыл бұрын
That’s the point
@cemo3292
@cemo3292 Жыл бұрын
24 😂
@Xentradi97
@Xentradi97 Жыл бұрын
@@cabinlim3684 will is not is. I WILL be a CEO of a multibillion dollar company one day. Sadly I have a hard time convincing people to invest in my future company i dont yet have.
@Willys-Wagon
@Willys-Wagon 8 ай бұрын
The India government itself is putting off Tejas in favour of futher development. I don't know what you want the Malaysians to do other than slipping some money under the table.
@icefrost6793
@icefrost6793 Жыл бұрын
In the Southeast Asian region, India should approach Indonesia for a tester in that region, because in some countries it prohibits the purchase of fighter aircraft that have not been battle proven and have not been purchased, Korea has succeeded in selling its aircraft in Southeast Asia because Indonesia bought it first and followed by other countries in the region, and now Korea is collaborating with Indonesia in kf21 development
@markk.7531
@markk.7531 Жыл бұрын
Any muslim country will chose other country vs India given a choice with similar circumstances, because India’s enemy is a muslim country Pakistan and to them loyalty to religion is number uno no matter what
@fisherman9520
@fisherman9520 Жыл бұрын
@@markk.7531 don't be silly.
@markk.7531
@markk.7531 Жыл бұрын
@@fisherman9520 that’s what I said, it may be silly but not impossible
@fisherman9520
@fisherman9520 Жыл бұрын
@@markk.7531 I have long thought they'd go with FA 50. Nothing to do with India's Hindu-Muslim conflict but technical evaluation.
@markk.7531
@markk.7531 Жыл бұрын
@@fisherman9520 Indian Tejas MK1 has a better max take off, service ceiling, higher g limit and max speed than Korean T50 the only + side of T50 is higher thrust and cheaper
@a.rymbai4898
@a.rymbai4898 Жыл бұрын
This prove Indian Technology lacking behind.
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't prove anything. Tejas is more advanced than FA50.
@cemo3292
@cemo3292 Жыл бұрын
India can’t even build drones bro
@sarojamillott4027
@sarojamillott4027 Жыл бұрын
This proves that the Koreans came with a larger packet
@Madanonsociety
@Madanonsociety Жыл бұрын
@Ajarry Mayor yess..thts true bro
@blankpaper2471
@blankpaper2471 Жыл бұрын
Lmao atleast india developed it on its own. Whereas South Korea is made and produced all by Lockheed Martin.
@prabak7739
@prabak7739 Жыл бұрын
What!!! I thought India's news agencies were talking as though it's a done deal. Overconfidence kills!!!
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
So were South Korean media since last 2 years saying FA50 has won tender. Lol Indian media only started doing that this year.
@kimeli
@kimeli Жыл бұрын
@@direwolf7491 but they won, so its not overconfidence for them, they were just right.
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
@@kimeli Or they were sure about their ability to bribe their way through. Lol 1 year ago FA50 wasn't even shortlisted and they announced that they won. That is called false News. Both countries did it.
@harshdata5784
@harshdata5784 Жыл бұрын
@@kimeli no official statements have been made
@MultiThunder1234
@MultiThunder1234 Жыл бұрын
Malaysia already operates the F18 Hornet platform so buying the KA50 makes sense rather than the Tejas which will not be able to share anything between the F18s already in service and the KA50 is cheaper to operate.
@walsengsangma1427
@walsengsangma1427 Жыл бұрын
Every country expects early delivery. HAL delays delivery so much even for IAF
@spacenavigateor
@spacenavigateor Жыл бұрын
This is good news, we ourselves need more tejas squadrons..only thing need improvement is more air coverage, jaihind
@jimcho9412
@jimcho9412 Жыл бұрын
It maybe tejas delta wing design is number one reason..not suitable for LCA..
@rajatdas3534
@rajatdas3534 Жыл бұрын
This is Simple F/A-50 offered to Malesia will not come with BVR Capability, AESA Radar, SPJ etc. But they still favor it, This is simply indicate Lockheed Martin influence and they don't wanna see India as another competitor. There is higher possibility that Malaysian Airforce Officers paid handsome amount under the table to favour F/A-50. Top of that India also offer to provide maintenance & spares to Malaysian Su-30MkM and if needed they can be upgraded with Indian system, hence their Airforce favor the less capable fighter with less interesting deal and also paying more! 🤔
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
What's wrong with delta wings? Why do people have problem with delta wings?
@mansurazeez2229
@mansurazeez2229 Жыл бұрын
@@rajatdas3534 wake up bro, the FA-50 Block 20 will be equipped with air-to-air refuelling probe and has the ability to launch BVR missiles. Those are part of the requirement.
@mansurazeez2229
@mansurazeez2229 Жыл бұрын
@@direwolf7491a close-coupled canard fitted to the Tejas will be more agile and has more attractive look just like those of European delta-canards. Remember image do play a part.
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
@@mansurazeez2229 It is not possible to add close-coupled canards to the Tejas. The Tejas is too small and there is no place to add them. That is why they added the crancked delta wings. The flat surface in front of the delta wings give it the effect of the canards to an extent. Also there somethings called LECONS which are added to the naval Tejas for additional lift. Check it out.
@VaibhavShete1981
@VaibhavShete1981 Жыл бұрын
Iaf must first purchase Tejas in bulk to give others the confidence in the aircraft
@leedavid408
@leedavid408 Жыл бұрын
You expect victory against Pakistani F-16 and Chinese J-20 using Tejas? Stop blaming IAF generals, their job is to defend India not support domestic manufacturers
@Enlightened23
@Enlightened23 4 күн бұрын
@@leedavid408 f 16 is maerican
@annoyedcat9291
@annoyedcat9291 Жыл бұрын
Some of the reasons are: Low production rate, Tejas offers UTTAM radar which is still in development, HAL does not have a renowned reputation unlike KAI and Lockheed Martin, countries do not trust Indian arms after Dhruv helicopter incident and Tejas's delta wing design
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
Oh look! A Malsetian justfying for the decisions made by their corrupt, racist and radicalized government, by spreading nonsense lies about the Tejas and HAL. India should cut all ties with this hostile country and replace their palm oil imports.
@svanimation8969
@svanimation8969 Жыл бұрын
It's a Helicopter? Have you check the news from Ecuador after investigation it found there own pilot's mistake lol 😂 later Ecuador itself addimited it's there MISTAKE and complete the order of helicopters
@svanimation8969
@svanimation8969 Жыл бұрын
Anyways we are focusing on bigger deal with Egypt of 70 Tejas jets we are offering them Manufacturing facilities in Egypt too not Malaysia any more it's actually Benifits us cuz it's stay in news for long which gives us Free PR 🌚✌🏻
@annoyedcat9291
@annoyedcat9291 Жыл бұрын
@@svanimation8969 How many dhruv helicopter have crashed in India and abroad?. That alone shows that something is wrong with the helicopter itself and not only pilot error
@annoyedcat9291
@annoyedcat9291 Жыл бұрын
@@svanimation8969 Egypt will not buy Tejas for the same reason. They will likely pick FA-50 as well
@user-px2lh2dg7m
@user-px2lh2dg7m Жыл бұрын
Every country want fa50.
@artistk9817
@artistk9817 Жыл бұрын
you have to understand , no one will buy tejas due to its mirage like wings. which is 30 years old design. why wont they buy mirage 2000 proven .. On the other hand , indian navy itself rejected this aircraft
@aryans5129
@aryans5129 Жыл бұрын
I mean do you even know that air force and navy aircraft are entirely different? Tejas was originally built for airforce so chances were already low that it would have worked on aircraft carrier. Even the best airforce fighters of the world will fail if it's not built for that specific purpose.
@jagadishbhatta9562
@jagadishbhatta9562 Жыл бұрын
Bravo 👏👏👏 so people should judge fighter jets capabilities by looking at the shape of fighter jet wings where do got so much knowledge from 🤣🤣🫢🫢
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
Most idiotic comment so far. Lol
@Risingnewman
@Risingnewman Жыл бұрын
Buddy, your news is old. Navy rejected Tejas is too old. Come up and grow up with something new.
@spreddyreds9408
@spreddyreds9408 Жыл бұрын
Rafael be like 😆😂😂
@maxx4903
@maxx4903 Жыл бұрын
Ngl..Tejas was a one hell of a ugly plane🤣🤣
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
FA50 is not pretty either. It depends on your taste.
@soumapriyamondal3808
@soumapriyamondal3808 Жыл бұрын
FA 50 is just a junk trainer, can't do fighter role
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
@Encik Ketam Says the gays who get excited seeing the junk fight the flying 🍆und😅
@cemo3292
@cemo3292 Жыл бұрын
@@soumapriyamondal3808 FA-50 is miles better then Tejas 😂
@Farooq_Tv
@Farooq_Tv Жыл бұрын
Its not even first choice of indian airforce.. how its possible someone else will buy or prefer it
@RAJEEVKUMAR-bt9ks
@RAJEEVKUMAR-bt9ks Жыл бұрын
Malaysian Defense Minister Mohd Hasan told parliament that the FA-50 decision was based on the platform's 'service record' So, it is clear that the reason for Malaysia's choice of FA 50 over Tejas was not Tejas' lack of individual capability but HAL's poor service record, US diplomacy, lack of marketing etc.
@cemgokcan
@cemgokcan 11 ай бұрын
Didn't surprise me as %60 of all Tejas planes in İndia are grounded due to production quality, fatal flaws on the fuselage and insufficient engine power due to the engine management systems developed by indian DRDO. Final conclusion : İndia was blaming Chinese military equipment for quality issues but faces worst quality flaws on it's own platforms and still fails to export anything
@aakashnaik1576
@aakashnaik1576 7 ай бұрын
Source?
@cemgokcan
@cemgokcan 7 ай бұрын
@@aakashnaik1576 by the way. For the export failure we don't need a source as india couldn't even export one single Tejas platform so far. Since 2015 it is contiunesly said by india that "some" countries are interested in the tejas, but it always stays there and india will be the only user of tejas in the future too. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@aakashnaik1576
@aakashnaik1576 7 ай бұрын
@@cemgokcan can you provide source for your parent comment?
@justanotherperson2576
@justanotherperson2576 Жыл бұрын
Because our government sector works with the Soviet government mindset. "Do not accept the fault and pretend everything is going on as per design untill the next man-made disaster arrives!" Also, another thing is that everybody blames hal for Tejas's delays, but you've to consider the fact that Tejas isn't the only product that hal manufactures. Whereas the sole purpose of Ada was to develop an indigenous fighter for India, and they've failed miserably to do so while being successful to slide the responsibility of failure onto hal!!
@syedputra5955
@syedputra5955 Жыл бұрын
India does not have the industrial clout of south korea. South korea build huge lng vessels, electronics, weapons and still in a state of war. Its a branding issue. Would you buy a indian made car or one from south korea,
@sarojamillott4027
@sarojamillott4027 Жыл бұрын
what a question? you would be an idiot to expect a Subaru/ Samsung to climb the Himalaya. India has been at war with china at its borders for years, winning without the American's support. America build Korea, Japan, China and Taiwan. Who build India? Indians.
@n.c9653
@n.c9653 Жыл бұрын
Indians couldn't fool Malaysians to buy mk1a which is still in development. And couldn't fool Malaysians that they can do MRO for Su when IAF fleet itself is in shambles and the Su is Russian! Malaysians also didn't appreciate Indians making so much noise in the media and social platform about the evaluation.
@curiouscynic4357
@curiouscynic4357 3 ай бұрын
HAL would far more efficient and productive if it was in private sector. Public sector has its inherent lethargy with poor motivation to perform..
@hobbang2k875
@hobbang2k875 Жыл бұрын
I am Korean and I think Tejas is a very good fighter jet. I hope Indonesia buys a lot of Tejas.
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
There is no contract with Indonesia.
@MuhammadUsman-xk6ir
@MuhammadUsman-xk6ir Жыл бұрын
Argentina can buy Tejas. If they offer with good weapon package and capability.
@edwardtang1977
@edwardtang1977 Жыл бұрын
Tejas is Indian crap.🤣
@norizammastor9072
@norizammastor9072 2 ай бұрын
While Malaysia busy to get FA50.. Indonesia will get 24 unit of Eagles.
@LuqmanHM
@LuqmanHM 6 ай бұрын
FA50 is a more mature platform overall
@angkukuey007
@angkukuey007 Жыл бұрын
Wow from all the initial chest-thumping and war cries, one would have thought the Tejas would win the bidding war. Honestly thought from reading the reports, the Tejas has better air superiority and manouvrability.
@justanotherperson2576
@justanotherperson2576 Жыл бұрын
Don't believe what people say on the internet about stuff that is going to be manufactured by Indian public sector units, even if it's coming from people who are working in the organisation! These news are a lot more politicised than it appears to the naked eye!
@leedavid408
@leedavid408 Жыл бұрын
Too expensive and outdated. There’s a reason why modi pushed it down Indian Air Force throat. Don’t bite more than you can chew
@umu8934
@umu8934 Жыл бұрын
Im hearing crying Indian keyboard warrior, because of this news😹😹😹😹
@lesliecheung1478
@lesliecheung1478 Жыл бұрын
here is the answer....cos the Tejas is sh1t. 40 years old designed, powered by off the shelf parts. It is essentially a kit plane. Until it is proven in combat, sales will be hard to come by.
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko Жыл бұрын
@@sarojamillott4027 FA-50 won. Malaysia just signed the contract with South Korea's KAI. Goodbye Tejas
@sarojamillott4027
@sarojamillott4027 Жыл бұрын
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko i am not sure whether this message is to make me sad or just to treat it as information update. However, I will not cry because the lose is to Malaysia. India has had two wars after independence. In the second with Pakistan, India emerged supremely victorious. The first clash with China caught them off guard but not he second. Inspite of interference by USA, UK, China and some middle East countries( on side of Pakistan), India took 80,000POWS, the biggest in comparison to 2nd world war, blew the Pakistan air squadron off , the navy was smashed( including merchant ships) and Pakistani territories were captured.. Today, in the northern border, China is kept in check by the ferocious Indian soldiers. What great wars had Malaysia or the south Koreans had fought like India? If you had watched the Indian republic parade recently, you would have seen the uniformed and armed female soldiers in thousands. Compare it with Malaysia or Korea.Even the weak are strong. So I am sure this is a case of the blind leading the blind and for sure a large portion of gifts have been received by Malaysia. I am saying this because as a Malaysian I was asked to pay a large sum of money by a education department officer for a place that had been given to me by Uk in one of its college.I took the option. I went privately.
@sarojamillott4027
@sarojamillott4027 Жыл бұрын
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko I just gave you an amazing reply but it disappeared!!!!! Obviously this is a digital generated link and anything that is not compatible to its agenda is taken off.
@sarojamillott4027
@sarojamillott4027 Жыл бұрын
Where are Malaysia and Korea compared to India's fighting might today?It is not India's loss so do not be quick to laugh. If you are living in Malaysia, pray for your country.
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko
@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko Жыл бұрын
@@sarojamillott4027 MY❤FA-50 KR
@parthapratimsinha4352
@parthapratimsinha4352 Жыл бұрын
Tejas was made by taking inspiration from Mirage 2000 - it has less Drag but has minimum maneuver capacity - it is good no doubt but during large Turning it looses its maximum energy (momentum) - it is in-born defect of Tejas for is shape and due to absence of front Canard
@rays14ful
@rays14ful Жыл бұрын
Bull crap. Talking as though you designed it.
@lloydz7628
@lloydz7628 Жыл бұрын
Tejas is junk even indian air force thinks so thats why they chose foreign warplanes
@ytn00b3
@ytn00b3 Жыл бұрын
It's wrong about Tejas is cheaper than TA-50 when it comes to program cost, no one buys fighters just price tag of the fighter itself, they all buy through program & package deals with optional spare parts. If program cost is added, Tejas is much more expensive than TA-50 and also Tejas production is slower than TA-50 production. FA-50 is just TA-50 with multi-role fighter avionics and sensors i.e. advanced radar & electronics. And it's far easier to convert TA-50 to trainer or fighter with flick of the switch with optional parts. Also, due to connection with Lockheed and Raytheon, TA-50 can be equip with their ASEA system and their armaments.
@navjotsheoran6095
@navjotsheoran6095 Жыл бұрын
For Tejas urs knowledge is very wrong..plzz fullfill ur knowledge
@devanshudwivedi5875
@devanshudwivedi5875 Жыл бұрын
False news. As of now RMAF hasn't decided which aircraft to purchase and are still comparing the 2 finalists. Their decision should be announced in the coming 3-4 weeks.
@sayfolman7752
@sayfolman7752 Жыл бұрын
5 Year Not 3-4 Weeks
@michaellim4165
@michaellim4165 Жыл бұрын
​@Sayfol Man the decision is now made. FA-50 won.
@clintwestwood5187
@clintwestwood5187 2 ай бұрын
HAL cant produce the numbers required . hence no customer is going to wait forever for a fighter aircraft that is as yet unknown in most parts of the world .
@kandakandy8593
@kandakandy8593 Жыл бұрын
WoW lot of Aviation experts in comment section!!
@bambang303378
@bambang303378 Жыл бұрын
Tejas is all around questionable aircraft.
@pakdinokilau62din16
@pakdinokilau62din16 Жыл бұрын
RMAF needs FLIT LCA training and light fighter not MRCA jet.
@rosetzu_nagasawa
@rosetzu_nagasawa 8 ай бұрын
name a COMPETITIVE made in India product ?
@achyutgavade9450
@achyutgavade9450 2 ай бұрын
To be honest tejas was rejected for it’s low production rate ! 😢
@annaporna9644
@annaporna9644 Жыл бұрын
India should privatize HAL fully, socialism is ruining India's defense infrastructure, Clueless bureaucrats are taking the call, which is resulting in sub par product with so much delay, Private companies gonna hire experts and gonna stick to the timelines to avoid losses.
@lagrangewei
@lagrangewei Жыл бұрын
Indian procurement issue is actually in the defence minister side. Indian minister like "best" and be "number one" without really considering their practicality. they tell the manufacturer to use imported parts without realising those parts are not suitable nor tested in the indian environment. this lead to subpar intergration and performance. if it is just HAL, why do the navy and tank force suffer the same problem? it is a ministry issue, not contractor. HAL isn't a great company this I will agree, but it not the reason why the defence industry suck, when you demand unrealistic requirement, you get unrealistic product... the F35 has so much issue isn't because lookheed martin is shit, but because congress force 3 services to use the same planes so you end up with 3 shitty planes... it usually the politic that fuck it up because they are the least informed and more arrogant part of the government.
@pokokdurian3199
@pokokdurian3199 Жыл бұрын
The main reason is even indian airforce is not using tejas.
@rudra8950
@rudra8950 11 ай бұрын
Who said that India already placed an order of 83 LCA Tejas and q new order for More 100 Tejas has been placed by IAF
@mr.badman594
@mr.badman594 Жыл бұрын
Change the wings designed..
@TheBongReyes
@TheBongReyes 9 ай бұрын
South Korea has really created itself a good reputation for light combat aircraft with the FA-50 in the Asian/Pacific area. Especially, for air forces that don’t have large defense budgets and need versatile but affordable platforms. Not every nation can afford a F-15/16/35 or a Gripen. And even if a nation can afford to purchase any of those platforms. The number of aircraft will be much lower. The FA-50 brings flexibility as a trainer & light multi role aircraft with the pricing to purchase large amount of units. Poland’s order for FA-50s will bring more spotlight to the aircraft for nations outside Asian. FA-50 can easily be a good supplement to more robust combat aircraft of other nations. Why use your Gripen or a F-16 when a FA-50 can easily to the job. Localized air patrols. Close air support.
@galanipoly4284
@galanipoly4284 Жыл бұрын
Well fa50 is battle proven
@rusman69wahid94
@rusman69wahid94 Жыл бұрын
We don't want to drink coffee/tea
@shivajivythilingam8685
@shivajivythilingam8685 Жыл бұрын
May be tejas need more operational proof...
@jack56789
@jack56789 Жыл бұрын
Bad impression created by turkiye and pak in religious aspects is the reason behind Malaysia's non favourable decision against india
@skengene
@skengene Жыл бұрын
India shud use Tejas in balakot lik strike on pak, automatically everyone will want tejas. no need of any marketing.
@MuhammadUsman-xk6ir
@MuhammadUsman-xk6ir Жыл бұрын
India should first induct Tejas in big numbers. I do not know which version of Tejas india is offering to Argentina. It can be sold to Argentina easily if deadly weapon package and capability is offered. One plus point can be IRST. Good BVR and Antiship capability which Argentina needs
@Zetler
@Zetler Жыл бұрын
There’s zero reason to buy Tejas. 1. Lack of combat record using last gen design. 2. It’s Indian, a pro Putin country with isolationism tendencies in Asian regions. 3. Components are entirely western. Might as well buy from the source.
@massiah1298
@massiah1298 Жыл бұрын
well on paper tejas is much better aircraft... if we compare the RCS, Takeoff weight, Service cieling, thrust , avionics and gs... its Malaysias fault that they havent chose tejas.. I think mostly because of Israeli component.. as they dont recognise Israel as a country.
@samratkoley5060
@samratkoley5060 Жыл бұрын
We will learn and come back strongly. Once india transport parts rocket in cycle cow pulled car. Now reached to the Mars, moon
@user-px2lh2dg7m
@user-px2lh2dg7m Жыл бұрын
Korea is more technical nation that have samsung, LG, Hyundai, Kia..etc...India has no company like that.
@aungaisum8654
@aungaisum8654 Жыл бұрын
Without US support korea is nothing lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kbkim6497
@kbkim6497 Жыл бұрын
하 방구석에서 좀 나와라. 인도재벌이 우리나라 재벌 쌈싸먹는다. 좀 알고써라.
@andrewkang5962
@andrewkang5962 Жыл бұрын
@@kbkim6497 그만큼 대한민국 재벌이 애국했다는 말임.
@kbkim6497
@kbkim6497 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewkang5962 먼소리임?
@andrewkang5962
@andrewkang5962 Жыл бұрын
@@kbkim6497 뭐? 먼? 너는 한글 모르시나요? 너는 중국인이나 화교입니까? 왜 중공짓 하나요? 대한민국의 재벌, 인도 재벌 그리고 중국 재벌 공산당 차이점 이제는 인정해야지요. 해외 자유진영에서 살면서 친중공 댓글알바한 것들 중국도 잡고 미국도 잡고 정상적인 조선족들도 중공 화교들도 곧 잡을 것입니다.
@ponnuduraiatmalingam2822
@ponnuduraiatmalingam2822 8 ай бұрын
Fighter jets should prove in real war
@Wabixs
@Wabixs Жыл бұрын
If tejas mk1 has Canard it will be more attractive,looks like something is missing
@Shahir-xj2gm
@Shahir-xj2gm Жыл бұрын
Win tender fa50 ..no tejas
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
Still no buy😅😅
@beranitakbuat
@beranitakbuat Жыл бұрын
Tejas is joke 😂
@awhig2474
@awhig2474 Жыл бұрын
BTW what happened to JF17..... Pakistanis, (as usual) were celebrating way before.... But were probably the first one to be out of race
@user-hx3cm7kq7b
@user-hx3cm7kq7b Жыл бұрын
As far as I observed ASEAN Air Forces except Thailand are less attracted to operate a delta wing jetfighters. Even each competing aircraft has the same avionics and sensors. The standard aircraft design is the most preferred.. The US swift delta wing F-14 never gain popularity among the world Air Forces compared to F-15, F-16 and F-18 respectively.
@modigodi7543
@modigodi7543 Жыл бұрын
Tejass is a failed jet and overthrow by their own air force, RMAF step on wisely..
@shoryasaxena2731
@shoryasaxena2731 Жыл бұрын
Ok beggar. 🍅
@vikrambnair8051
@vikrambnair8051 Жыл бұрын
Look who is taking poor beggar
@shoryasaxena2731
@shoryasaxena2731 Жыл бұрын
@@vikrambnair8051 pls don't write English if you are confused with vocab
@annoyedcat9291
@annoyedcat9291 Жыл бұрын
@@shoryasaxena2731 Learn to spell 'please' correctly
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
@@annoyedcat9291 Mind your own business malsetian.
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