Why Did The Chargers Leave San Diego?

Why Did The Chargers Leave San Diego?
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The San Diego Chargers were a mainstay of San Diego culture and sports, however they decided to abandon the city that made them NFL legend to become the Los Angeles Chargers we know today, but why did the Chargers leave San Diego?
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[@dannyphan1352]

Please quit

[@danielfernandez2799]

@@dannyphan1352 Yes, thank you

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

gargle me

[@joelpierce1453]

Because the Spanos family is greedy. I was a San Diego fan and followed the whole saga from start to finish. It all comes down to greed.

[@lowellthompson2446]

If you are a multi billionaire living in one of the most popular sections of the country like San Diego and the city has supported you right from the start, why not build your own football stadium. The city has always supported the Chargers, you can rent it out to local sports teams and have concerts there, the Spanos family would be making a profit. San Diego has always been a very popular town with tourists.

[@sixdaslayer4426]

Tell me you’re biased without telling me you’re biased.

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

I am not even from California and you're dumb

[@imab0t473]

Obviously. I live in San Diego. The Spanos family were definitely jerks about the situation. But that's about the only thing you got right

[@DThimself]

The Spanos family gotta be one of the worst owners in the league, just sell the team and take them back to SD

[@juanbanuelos6411]

San Diego played a big part in chargers leaving.

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

wrong

[@trevorgibson5728]

I hope San Diego never allows a relocation team. We know what it's like to lose a team. Why would we want to take a team from another city? That is unless it's the Chargers... LA roots for the Raiders they do not need their rival team in town.

[@daleburrer1546]

As a Rams fan, I call the Chargers the other L.A. team and they will continue to be as long as they are in L.A. or if you want call the Chargers second rate

[@michaelleroy9281]

The Rams have played in LA with the exception of 1995-2015

[@arizonawrestlinginterviews1040]

The Rams first played in Cleveland

[@dfausti66]

Hey Chargers, come to Utah! We are happy to create Epoch for you and your brand.

[@robertmartinjr.4537]

Barely a NBA market 😂

[@dfausti66]

@@robertmartinjr.4537 We just bought an NHL and are currently working on bringing the Oakland A's to Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City is also gearing up to host another Winter Olympic Games and money is plentiful.

[@dreamcage1801]

San Diego can be an NFL expansion team going forward

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

true

[@dreamcage1801]

@@FootballLoreOfficial 💯 with a better fresh owner

[@zeric_]

There was a time when fans of NFL football in San Diego could have voted for a downtown stadium for the Chargers. The team tried for 12 years to get a stadium deal done in San Diego. By the time they were able to get something on the ballot, it was announced the Rams and the Raiders had the option of also coming to SoCal. The politicians did not move the needle in San Diego and there were options in Carson where investors were willing to fund the Stadium and the City of Carson wanted NFL football. However, the Carson Stadium plan was overruled in favor of the Rams SoFi stadium plan. This left the NFL with 2 options: 1. Rams get their stadium with Chargers as the first priority to move in with them 2. Chargers stay in San Diego and the Raiders move in with the Rams Dean Spanos, owner of the Chargers, had a choice to make. Do they Stay in San Diego and allow the Rams and Raiders to further eat into their SoCal Market? Could they trust that a new Stadium would be built and they could remain competitive? Or do they take the low-risk option and move into SoFi? They arent responsible for any construction overruns and only need to pay a relocation fee. They get to reap the benefits as co-owners of SoFi as well. Between 2010-2015 the Chargers were experiencing blacked out games, financial issues, trouble competing, and the owner Dean Spanos was labeled a "broke billionaire". He didn't have the credit or investors to fully finance a stadium in San Diego on his own. So he asked the city for help. His last ditch effort was to try and ask the City of San Diego to build a stadium in Downtown. One that would allow them to generate revenue to remain competitive in the NFL regardless of the Raiders and Rams in SoCal. That, and to fill seats. The problem is, local San Diego groups wanted their own Stadium. They wanted their own version of a Downtown Stadium and the Mayor rushed a Mission Valley proposal without consulting with the team. So there were 3 ballot options to choose from. The Chargers needed 65% of votes for their ballot option and only got 45% of support. Had those 2 other ballot options not been on the table, they may have gotten a lot closer to the number they needed which would have possibly swayed Dean Spanos to stay. Dean is known as cheap, but one could say Risk Averse. If he had gotten say 60% that might have been enough to convince him that a stadium deal in San Diego could get done if he doesn't leave. But allowing two teams into your market so that there's 4 California teams and 3 of them are in SoCal, the risk seemed to high. I'm convinced that's why they ended up moving the team.

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

Why should the city pay for a worthless stadium?

[@zeric_]

@@FootballLoreOfficial To be clear, having an NFL team in your city is a luxury. It's the #1 national sport in America and is growing year over year. If you want your city to become a destination city, it's the best marketing tool to bring in tourism. As a Stadium, what you do with it, is largely dependent on the management. In San Diego, the Gaslamp district was not a destination until after the Petco Park stadium was built which was built in the early 2000s. Fast forward 20 years, real estate investors had incentives to build around Petco and Gaslamp is now a top 5 tourist destination in America. Petco Park also brings in 100's of millions of dollars from non-related MLB events a year. There were people at the time, like you, who called the project worthless and voted against it. The proposed Chargers downtown stadium would have revitalized the East Village in downtown, opposite of Gaslamp. The goal was to create a sports district. The potential there was the same. Besides that, the Chargers plan was to have a Stadium + Convention center. Something that the city STILL desperately needs for hosting Comic-Con 7 freakin years later. You might cite studies that show "overall Stadiums do not provide economic value", but that's largely dependent on where the city is located. San Diego has proven the contrary. If you build it, they will come.

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

its not a destination, if you can find ANY proof that having an NFL team actually boosts revenue for a city I'm all ears. It does not. Just saying "oh if they built in Gaslamp it would work" isn't proof, it conjecture with no evidence. @@zeric_

[@zeric_]

@@FootballLoreOfficial If you read what I wrote with an open-mind you would have interpreted this: Economic success is dependent on the city the NFL team lands in. A stadium alone does not bring economic success or boosts revenue. The location, leadership, investments, and management is what does. San Diego was a perfect place for a Downtown Stadium because its located in a year-around climate next to the ocean. The real-estate investments that played out over 20 years after Petco was built is what made Gaslamp a national tourist destination. Is the 100s of millions of dollars that are being taxed generating revenue to cover the Stadium expense? Maybe somewhat. Has the development of downtown, largely due to the stadium, generating revenue for the city? Absolutely. San Diego is making way more money now. Downtown is dense af with more residents, businesses, and commercial investments.

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

They are not generating hundreds of millions in tax revenue from that stadium alone, the city has to maintain the roads, the power infrastructure, police prescence, and everything else that goes into it being there. The owner of the team, is the one making millions. Even with the California tax rate being as high as it is, there is no way the city recoups the cost off tax revenue. This has been proven in Las Vegas with Allegiant recently. If Billionaires want to build their own stadium be my guest, but trying to blackmail the public into building your revenue generating assets is silly. As you described it, Petco was an investment and while it was 60% funded by the public it only cost 205 million. Compare that shelling out a billion for an NFL stadium and its nuts. You just keep saying "Yes it does" but providing no proof beyond just going "yeah it does"

[@JosephMelendrez007]

San Diego is L.A. lite.

[@rodrigopina6877]

Chargers should've never left SD

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

exactly

[@jal2550]

Steve Kronke? Come on bro

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

Jal2550? Come on bro

[@jal2550]

his name is STAN Kronke. Do your research. Kills your credibility @@FootballLoreOfficial

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

​@@jal2550 Because I confused steve with stan while reading a script? eat me

[@jal2550]

Its like saying Jacob Jordan when talking about Michael and the Bulls. Your credibility is forever in the toilet. @@FootballLoreOfficial

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

is it tho? Mixing up the name of the most famous athlete of all time is the same thing as not knowing the name of a franchise owner? You're a moron LOL

[@markbeckens]

They abandoned the city? The city that refused to replace their stadium which was 46 years old. If San Diego had built for the Chargers, what they built for the Padres. They would still be the San Diego Chargers!

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

Yes lets spend tax payer money on stadiums

[@markbeckens]

@@FootballLoreOfficial like they did for the Padres?

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

Yes Petco park was one sixth the cost, and the city only paid for 50% of it. So if the city only wants to put up 200 million for it? Be my guest. That wasn't the deal was it? It was either build a billion dollar stadium or we leave. I also think petco park was stupid and tax payers shouldn't have paid for that either. Public money doesn't belong in private real estate man

[@markbeckens]

@@FootballLoreOfficial I don't remember the Chargers asking for a 2.5 billion dollar stadium

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

They wanted a 4% increase on the hotel tax to go to funding (which is about 350 million a year), and $650 million up front to begin construction. @@markbeckens

[@cashtripp3]

This comment section does not pass the vibe check f*ck. I love the video I’m still heartbroken as a San Diegan and I’m not nor have ever been a chargers fan

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

LMAO bro I didn't know the can of worms I was opening. I am from the East Coast but everyone knows the Chargers belong in San Diego

[@sixdaslayer4426]

They should have never left LA. They would have been more popular.

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

nah

[@sixdaslayer4426]

@@FootballLoreOfficial yeah.

[@MrJojowalks]

They originally comes from LA!

[@danielfernandez2799]

Yes, the Chargers played their first season (1960) in LA- you know your history.

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

for one year bozo

[@MrJojowalks]

@@FootballLoreOfficial you’re a bitter ex! Let go already

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

@@MrJojowalks How about you eat poop

[@Jr619LiFTED]

If you live in a city for 60+ years you wouldn’t call that your home?

[@chargersina]

So you don’t understand either but made a video explaining.. charges moved to LA, because that gave them a higher value for their franchise. It was all about greed. That’s why Dean Spanos is hated by San Diego. 😊

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

they didn't gain value comparatively to other relocating teams. Rams have sextupled in value, so have the Raiders, Chargers haven't. I know you're probably too stupid to understand valuations overtime compared to other investments.

[@mikearchambeault633]

San Diego got greedy and thought they were bigger than a NFL team. The NFL teams bring billions to a city every year and now San Diego is a nice city but has no NFL team and probably never will get another team unless they finally build a new stadium. Heck I remember when San Diego used to get Super Bowls to go to there city and they wouldn't fit the bill for a new stadium I can't believe it. I can't imagine how much money a Super Bowl brings to a city probably another billion at least. I am sure the Chargers will find a new home eventually but it sure won't be San Diego. This video was produced by the city of San Diego it sounds like to smear the Chargers.

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

The Chargers blow and so do you, sports championships dont bring money to a city. You don't understand economics beyond basics. Building a stadium isnt good for the city.

[@mikearchambeault633]

Why get so negative calling names when I was just stating the truth NFL teams are BIG money to cities. I live in Arizona for 20 years and we bent over backward to make the Cardinals a new stadium and from that our city has grown into one of the best and biggest cities in the USA.@@FootballLoreOfficial

[@turtle19dad]

Watch the “Bolted” podcast. Goes from 1960 to LA part 2. Before people bring the hate.

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

eat me

[@holyy1145]

​@@FootballLoreOfficialmarry me 😛

[@lonniestephens6254]

The Chargers nfl team should have moved out of San Diego, CA.

[@Ghost-ten]

Nice spin 👏 👌 on this bias . Guess u missed the parts where the Chargers tried for like 15-20 years to get a deal done. Like whe the Chargers offered to pay for the whole thing in exchange for the land. Or where the Chargers & the Nfl offered to pay for half of the stadium where the city would own the stadium in exchange for the city's half would be paid by a tax on the hotel. Meaning that it would not be paid by the ppl of SD but by ppl visiting the city. Or how every time they were close to getting a deal done it was sabotage by Mike Aguirre or the Mayor of Sd or others in power. In reality the Chargers had no choice once Stan got the ok to move back to LA and took the Chargers only leverage. The Chargers would have been f***ed with no new stadium and the rams & raiders in LA. Yeah if you were in their shoes u would've made the same choice. On a side note the Chargers double in value with the move to LA even with what they paid to move . All the ppl in SD do was complain about the team and the stadium when they were there. The fanbase was weak. The ppl that are upset talk out of both side of their mouth. On one side they were made about the deal on how the city would have to pay for unsold seats, then they like to tell u how the fanbase was sooooo geart they would sellout tbe stadium . But leave out the part where The Q was taken over by every other team except the Seahawks. I was a season ticket holder for like 7 years and saw first hand. Was there befor LT and during LT. Drove down there every home game from LA and Riverside.

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

"offered to pay for it in exchange for free land" is not the flex you think it is. The tax generated would take decades to offset the investment unfortunately. I wouldn't have made the same choice but good luck! You guys can be the second best team in LA as long as you want!

[@dreamcage1801]

Dean spanos is a toxic ass owner & he needs to sell the team

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

yes

[@dreamcage1801]

@@FootballLoreOfficial 💯

[@jessemlogan3rd428]

The Chargers moved to LA & we're not going no where. Its been a blessing since the move from San Diego . The Rams are more than welcome to stay in the house we share & congratulations on the success since being in LA but if the Rams are unhappy in some way because we share the same stadium , there more than welcome to leave ... & we really don't give a shit who's house it is, we're here to stay ... deal with it or leave.

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

They own the stadium actually, you guys are just renting. The Ram's owner paid to build it.

[@jessemlogan3rd428]

@FootballLoreOfficial thanks for paying & building the stadium, your welcome to stay.

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

I'm not a Rams, I don't care. Just saying they built it @@jessemlogan3rd428

[@jessemlogan3rd428]

@FootballLoreOfficial yes we all know they own the stadium & if they feel like selling because they want to move away , the Chargers will buy the house.

[@Jr619LiFTED]

@@jessemlogan3rd428buy the house? Spanos couldnt even build one himself

[@rpsalva6134]

I hate the spanos

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

don't we all

[@DireHammer]

San Diego never gave an f about the chargers, that's why they left.

[@danielfernandez2799]

it's been 7 years. GET OVER IT!

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

I'm not even a Chargers fan, I just wanted to investigate why they moved. It was a business mistake to leave the city

[@danielfernandez2799]

@@FootballLoreOfficial There are no mistakes, there are only decisions.

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

I mean to be fair, if you are making less money than you were before that is mistake from a business perspective. They can be located wherever they want, but moving to be less popular is kinda funny.

[@danielfernandez2799]

@@FootballLoreOfficial Even though it was a 5-12 season, Chargers managed to rank 10th (out of 32) in home game attendance... And this is some kind of failure to you?

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

@@danielfernandez2799 Yes. When you consider both the Rams and Raiders have tripled in value since relocating and the Chargers haven't doubled yet. It isn't personal bro, I feel like you're taking it a lot more personally than you should be.

[@scoobemail66]

Lots of misinformation here.

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

like what?

[@hihackersam9176]

Typical LA resident. She spoke pure facts

[@scoobemail66]

@@hihackersam9176 look up the attendance since they moved to L.A. douchebags like you predicted the couldnt fill Sofi....they sell it out consistently. The owners make more money than ever. It was a great move by all metrics. Only lames and this upload claim it was a failed mistake.

[@scoobemail66]

@@hihackersam9176 the "she" youre referring to is a computer brainiac...🤣🤣🤣

[@hihackersam9176]

@@scoobemail66 it’s a girl voice

[@12eBeL]

Even when the Chargers were in San Diego playing at Qualcomm, the charger fans never showed up. They aint loyal there. Because when they moved they stopped being fans. Thats not loyal at all. San diego should get over the chargers and go look for another team to go there. The LOS ANGELES CHARGERS are back home where they started in LA. And they will win their first super bowl in LA, something that never happened in SD

[@turtle19dad]

Did you ever go to a game in SD?

[@12eBeL]

@@turtle19dad I've been to alot. I grew up in socal. I parked at the mall and took the trolley to the stadium smart guy.. do u remember how raiders fans were more than double the charger fans? And how small Qualcomm stadium was and charger fans couldn't even fill the smallest stadium in the nfl.. that stadium was old and a pos. Yall nggas mad they left lol foh!

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

You do realize your stadium is empty in LA too right?

[@12eBeL]

@@FootballLoreOfficialEmpty? did you know the Chargers ranked 14th in the NFL for fan attendance?

[@FootballLoreOfficial]

imagine being the 2nd biggest market in the nation and bragging about Middle of the league attendance LOL. Ya man!!! you guys in LA should have similar attendance to Cleveland!! Rams are top 10 in the same city and stadium buster @@12eBeL