WHY Did The GI Joe Sgt. Slaughter Turn HEEL?

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

So what current or 80s real life person/character would make a great addition to the G.I.Joe or Cobra teams?

[@Busto]

They could turn Simone Biles into a tiny ninja or cat burglar. That might be bad ass

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

@@Busto that would be interesting! Nice one!

[@seantaylor424]

The Mizz as an administrator in Extensive Enterprises, with sunglasses that emit flashes to always cover his escapes.

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

@seantaylor424 ooooo that's a good one!

[@dinomonzon7493]

Elon Musk as the Joe version of Tony Stark (Mr. Musk met Tony in Iron Man 2).

[@hgc7000]

It is wild and awesome that Sarge is having a renaissance in the collector and toy world right now. While I wasn't a fan of Sarge in ARAH, I was a huge wrestling fan as a kid, and Sarge turning heel was a great storyline for the time. Now, as an adult, I am loving the Sarge in his different iterations in MOTU, Action Force, and that Transformers/Joe Crossover. I've seen and chatted with him at local Cons and toy shows, super nice dude IRL. Also, Action Force was an original toy line separate from the Joes in the early 80s, but the Brit company that produced them got bought out and merged into Hasbro in the mid to later 80s. It's sort long story, and the only reason I mention this is that the original figures and vehicles from the classic Action Force line are super cool. Definitely worth a look.

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

I think that the renaissance of Sarge is part of the bigger pop culture boom that's been going on. Either way it's really nice to see all these people getting their just due and recognition for all the work they did back in the 80s 👍👍 I didn't know that about Action Force. I just thought it was the name given to Joes when brought over to the UK. Cool will check it out. The new Valaverse AF is cool but for me lacks any personalities in the characters. I'm assuming all of those are new stuff? Not based on the original AF?

[@hgc7000]

@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf Correct, the new Action Force is comprised of new characters. (other than Sarge) The creator was worked out a deal where Sarge appears as the grizzled veteran, which I think is awesome. There are comics that flesh out the team, but not everyone has picked those up and some of the media can be found on Amazon and the Valaverse website. I got into the line early on, and I do think the line would do better with a little more story output. But, it's been fun/interesting seeing where it goes.

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

@hgc7000 yeah for what they are they look cool but lack a little bit of visual flair in their designs IMHO. But I guess it opens the door for more customization down the line! 👍

[@gall_blader_works]

As a Filipino, I am offended at myself for not having watched the blue loin-cloth Filipino episode. I need to go find it.

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

Ha ha yeah I just discovered it myself while doing my research on this story 😂

[@sukmykrok3388]

I'm not a GI Joe fan AT ALL! But Sgt. Slaughter takes a place in my heart because he was one of my favorite wrestlers back in the day! His return to wrestling as a heel broke my heart.

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

Slaughter was definitely a larger than life character! As a wrestling fan I kinda missed him in his prime as a face but as a Joe fan I was bummed with his heel turn as well!

[@kashyyyk]

I remember the first time I saw a commercial for the Sgt. Slaughter, GI Joe, figure. Voice 1: “That Joe is in trouble! He’s surrounded by Cobra!”. Voice 2: “No. Cobra is in trouble. That Joe is Sgt. Slaughter!”

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

That basically sums up all ya need to know about the Sarge 👍👍👍

[@cheeseburger12]

I did not know that MOTU/WWF had a Sarge. That is badass.

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

That was a really wild line of figures! Definitely looked fun but another potential rabbit hole I just couldn't get into 🤣

[@cheeseburger12]

@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf I liked and got the MOTU Classics Mattel did, so I skipped the more recent retro line, otherwise I would have ebayed that thing in a heartbeat. I wasn't much of a wrestling fan, but I certainly appreciate the Sarge!

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

@cheeseburger12 same! I was pretty much all in on classics so I also passed on all the later lines. These were compatible with their current origins line which was cool. As much as I loved watching wrestling...that love didn't translate much to wrestling toys. And the one time I picked up a wrestling toy in the store to "check out" my wife immediately shot it down 🤣

[@ScaryGarrySG1]

It was said that wrestling was in a down period in 1990-1991, but I wouldn't have known. G.I Joe and Wrestling were my 2 biggest loves...still are! No one who wasn't around for this could understand just how huge this was. I was devastated LOL! The whole thing seemed to happen so fast, but was playing off of the real-world conflicts of the time, as it happened. And there was such attention to detail in WWF then...,in storyline Sgt Slaughter returned because Nikolai Volkoff had embraced America in the post-USSR fall and it made Sarge downright sick! It could be said that Volkoff wasn't exactly someone on the roster than fans were dying to see, but even the "worst guy" had major implications on what happened in the WWF by causing Sarge to return. What a time!

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

Yeah! I was more of a casual at the time but I was more upset that Sarge beat the Ultimate Warrior for the belt 😅 as I was a HUGE warrior fan. Volkoff's defection was nice in the sense that the bolsheviks had been heel jobbers for so long I felt good for the guy, but even back then I knew that. Story wasn't gonna go anywhere 😅 kinda like when virgil broke off from the million dollar man. Feel good story but you know some wrestlers got "it" and others don't. But yeah great times nonetheless! 👍👍👍

[@TheDuck632]

As a kid Slaughter was my second favorite Joe. I didn't see much of his in ring work I didn't get into wrestling until Stone Cold. Last year for my birthday I got the classified Slaughter and as soon I can I'm getting the Triple T / Kup. ( cute side story last year I bought a house and duplex so in January I bought an 98 Dodge Dakota I named Kup) But I'm starting to get as many Joes as Transformers. So to end off on who do I think would be awesome as a real life Joe Ross Chastain he's a NASCAR driver they can him the Watermelon man and his the first driver in years to have had a rule made because of his move of riding the wall. But as always great video thank you so much for taking the time to make them for us and I'm looking forward to the next one. Life has been crazy the last month so I have been watching I just haven't been able take time to comment. I hope you and your family are doing well and have a wonderful day good sir see you in the next one

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

Hey great to hear from you again brother! No worries about the comments, we all got lives together lead but I really appreciate the views! I don't follow NASCAR so I'm not familiar with Chastain but will read up on him :) what does riding the wall mean? Must have been quite controversial to lead to a rule change to manage! Anyway like I said great to hear from you and stay safe as well! Til the next one!

[@TheDuck632]

@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf oh he's awesome and riding the wall in a move in NASCAR video games you put right side of the car against the wall grab fifth gear and floor it. The speed pins you to the wall and you can go flat out. Over the years a few drivers have tried and failed to pull it off he pulled it off a few years ago if you look up "Hail Melon" or his name and wall ride on KZbin you can find it. But depending on who you talk to some may call him a heel or a Babyface. I love his style but Dale Sr is my hero so I guess I like the heels

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

@TheDuck632 nice! That's what I suspected it was based in the name 👍 so now it's an illegal move? Anyway you've got me intrigued. Will check out some videos! :)

[@johndelossantos7551]

Still own the vintage sgt and the sdcc 25th anniversary version

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

Nice! Are you getting the TF crossover? I'll be honest its the first TF crossover I'm actually tempted to get 😅

[@retrojoe8290]

The Sarge turned heal? Totally FUBAR! (from another 80's Stallone gem). Great vid!. Now I'm going for dinner and dancing at Taco Bell. Hope it don't cause me to run for the 3 seashells😅. Yo Freaking Joe!

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

You didn't know about his turn? It was pretty controversial! Fortunately it was only temporary. How crazy would it have been if the Joes followed suit! Anyway yeah enjoy dinner and hope you dont run into Simon Phoenix!

[@retrojoe8290]

@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf I did not know that. I got away from (I guess WWE), but was a total Ultimate Warrior/ Macho Man / OG Rockers fan (W.orld W.ildlife F.ederation). GI Joe even gave Roddy Roddy permission to kick ass and chew bubble gum? (NICE). The Joe's must have known Hulk was a little out there.🤪 🤣 Yo Freaking Joe!

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

@retrojoe8290 well Sarge was brought back and turned heel to beat the Ultimate Warrior. Double bummer for me because well seeing Slaughter turn heel was bad but he beat my favorite the warrior! Oh well...all is right now :)

[@MarkCerbo]

Did you get the MOTWWE Universe Slaughter? I wanted one, but it was not sold on retail. It was sold in Malaysian retail stores and it went on clearance last year. I never owned one in my youth, and that TF x GI Joe Tripple T / Kup is a far better version than the vintage. Again, a great feature of the Sarge.

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

Hey Mark! Didn't get the Motu Sarge as I never saw it here. But either way it was another potential rabbit hole I didnt need to get into 🤣 thenTF crossover one though is interesting...but I gotta stay focused and strong 😅

[@knightwolfpro4494]

When the MOTWWE version was released in the States, you basically needed to be on Walmart's website to order it when it went up. I was lucky enough to snag one, but I'm pretty sure it was sold out in less then 5 minutes and yeah, it never showed up in stores. They was the MOTWWE figures were released overall was a joke.

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

@knightwolfpro4494 sorry to hear but great job on getting one. At the very least it's a great conversation starter!

[@Busto]

In the late 90's, WCW had become far more entertaining than WWE. Especially with the NWO/WCW storyline & the rise of Goldberg. Putting him & Hitman together as a tag team was brilliant! Wasn't The Fridge part of the Marauders?

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

Yeah! WCW reignited my interest in wrestling big time! I remember watching Nitro at the time and thinking what the hell is going on with almost every week another new heel turn would be added to thebNWO ranks! Crazy and yeah Goldberg wa something else....although I really am also sorenat him for accidentally or not cutting the hit man's career short :( who did hitman tag with? Slaughter? I'm not sure if Fridge was part of marauders , but his colors do match 😅

[@seantaylor424]

Considering Vince McMahon is as vindictive as the Cobra Commander, as business-savvy as the Crimson Twins and as subtle as Serpentor, I wouldn't be surprised if Slaughter not cutting him in on the GI Joe deal is what caused that heel turn. Man, your wrestling federation sounds way more organized than the ones my friends and I ran. We each had our own branch of it and were so out of step with each other that one friend made a Wolverine play the role of an e-fed user's character he was annoyed by just to job out in one match but I kept him around for my branch because it seemed like a waste. The third one of us was SO out of step with us that he was set in the future and ran literal death matches because he could clone all of his competitors back to life. We kept track of our own champions and feuds, but there was definitely no graph paper and trading statistics with us, heheheheheh!

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

Yes that's exactly what I thought regarding Mcmahon 😅 have you seen the documentary? I haven't yet but will hopefully get to it this weekend :) I dunno...your federation sounds WAY more interesting! Clones? Resurrections? Sign me up! I also used to play "death joes" wherein basically EVERYONE DIES in gruesome and creative ways 🤣

[@seantaylor424]

@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf I haven't seen the documentary yet because I only recently learned that it did interview wrestlers and people from within WWE (the way other people made it sound, they didn't talk to anyone on the inside and I didn't know why they'd do that). Sounds like unearthed some stuff that even veteran fans didn't know about, so that's crazy!

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

@@seantaylor424 just started watching it myself. The crazy thing is even Vince is being interviewed!

[@seantaylor424]

@StoriesFromTheToyshelf Yeah, he's in the whole thing from what I heard! People are guessing the SA allegations didn't come out until after they started production, so I guess he was available. I heard he tried buying the documentary towards the end and people think he wanted to can it.

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

@seantaylor424 yeah they had a disclaimer at the start that vince was interviewed before the allegations came up. Crazy at least they got him involved....he put out a statement kindof hinting that the documentary isn't accurate 😅

[@charleshunterii7157]

You forgot that he was in. operation dragon fire that showed the return of Cobra Commander and introduced quietly the slaughters marauders

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

You're right! Can you believe I only watched Dragonfire in its entirely for the first time AFTER writing this episode? And I have to say I found it mildly entertaining 😅

[@pixelitchio]

sarge was always iconic as a GiJoe and when he appeared in wwf I could not understand how a cartoon became alive and how and why he was now a wrestler... even less on the opposite side; it was just "the show"; never cared learning about it and now youtube suggests this; fun vid. I too played with the gijoe series for wrestling but just for the moves. To include the bots was a cool idea. Somewhere on youtube, there's a wrestling show that has made a few matches with a wrestler playing a robot character; the only way to win is to use water, I think. Japan has a few fun matches with wrestler fighting a mannequin as if it was possessed. But maybe you've already seen it.

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

Cool! Nice to know I wasn't alone in making my Joes wrestle 😅 I think for most kids the cartoon Slaughter came first. To be honest I don't remember what it was for me, but I would think I learned about the Jow first since I never saw Slaughter wrestle in his prime. Do you know the name of the KZbin channel? Sounds fun! Japan has been known to come up with wild and wacky ideas. So I'm not surprised that it's also in wrestling which is huge there 👍👍👍

[@pixelitchio]

@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf checkforsoundwavevscoltcabanamymessageisalwaysdeleted

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

@pixelitchio got it maybe it's this whole link think on KZbin?

[@doomedhuh]

Maybe Sarge joined Cobra

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

That would've made an interesting story 😅

[@dracula1980]

I've been to Philippines and confirm they are not blue. They are little brown Asian Mexicans and there is a lot of them.

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

Thank you for the confirmation 👍 I just took a glance at my arm and I can agree as well that I am not blue 😅 and yes we are little Asian Mexicans and we are legion 😅😅😅

[@owensayaman7047]

Did I just spot DEVO?

[@IrishKyokushin]

Because he wanted out of the AWA.

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

The AWA wouldn't let him go? I thought at that point he was more of a free agent

[@elcucuyfeo]

My God, I am nowhere near the nerd you are , and I was the one who was tormented all my childhood and beaten over the head with a rock because of it. Life is cruel.

[@StoriesFromTheToyshelf]

Aw man! Sorry to hear about your childhood but things are better now I hope! 👍👍👍