why did the gossip girl reboot fail? 📱💵💔

[@muminaweliyo]

Gossip girl reboot didn’t know what it wanted to be. Did they want Julien to be good or bad? Did they wanna go all in with the feuds or hold back? Did they want the characters to be actually flawed or were they always gonna come up with an excuse for bad behaviors? They had no clue and that’s why it failed

[@Missmagazinebura]

Lol someone on TikTok said Julien is bipolar

[@lb5072]

and the beauty of the original gossip girl is all the characters were good and bad but the way that they were good and bad were so rooted in their characters, that it didn’t feel jarring.

[@mrsmememania]

Julien is delusional and I love it. Especially that modeling stunt with Luna? Sabotaging her friends and proceeding to laugh as if nothing happened lolll

[@kcscorner954]

@@mrsmememania literally 😭😭

[@honeybunch802]

exactly

[@Aeaed]

I didn't mind that the teachers restarted "gossip girl" as a nod to the now older generation, but it would have been an interesting if they lost access to the page relatively quickly and a unknown user would have taken over. It could have been a commentary on how gossip and scandals can't be controlled on the internet.

[@MoonShadow333]

That actually could have worked. Like them gaining access to the old account to denounce the initial firing of the teacher and then they are kicked out by another user

[@Abstract852]

@@MoonShadow333 the old account was a blog...no one would have cared or been looking in the current gen given all the new social media platforms.

[@MoonShadow333]

@@Abstract852 blogs still have credentials and it was iconic in universe. Still anything would have worked better than salty teachers in social media

[@ZariDV]

@@MoonShadow333 But to blogs have credentials among the generation that the teens are from? I'm a younger millennial and I can't think of anyone I know who actually cares about blogs these days in the way you would need to for this to work. It's much less so for the youngest gen z teens out there. They're already saying that Instagram was a bad choice for Gossip Girl and more gen z's would have latched onto GG more on TikTok. A blog would be laughably outdated to them.

[@Edeliz.]

Great idea! 👍

[@trinaq]

Dan being Gossip Girl in the original was bad enough, but having this iteration's anonymous gossip blogger be teachers who are posting illicit pictures and spreading gossip of their underage students on the internet just rubs me the wrong way. They're a bunch of grown adults who should know better, and the motive for this is especially weak.

[@insideroutside]

Omg the teachers being gossip girl made me so mad like aint they grown why they aint living they life

[@Missmagazinebura]

I like Dan better. Kate’s voice is annoying

[@MissAfricanAmerican99]

THANK YOU

[@Crawlingdreams418]

Thank you for this. I was legit looking for a comment calling those adult teachers out and couldn't find any. Like, damn

[@Cayliente]

I teach high school so as soon as I found out that’s the direction the reboot chose, I knew I couldn’t watch.

[@tumblrqueen8143]

The biggest problem in my opinion was how they prioritized aesthetics over everything. The picked actors and actresses based off of their look, aesthetic and vibe. Not on their acting ability, chemistry with the cast or original plot and ideas for characters. They just said “you look the part, read/do this”

[@nocturnalanimals5884]

literally evan mock, sorry 💀

[@tudor9035]

@@nocturnalanimals5884 Evan mocks acting is soooo bad im so sorry

[@fandomcomics8702]

Jordan and Evan are so bad at acting it was so hard to watch them

[@M123Xoxo]

And the aesthetics weren't even good. Bald Blair Waldorf? Sorry but no. It was like they turned everyone into Vanessa. And none of the guys were guys teen girls would lust after... a lot of the appeal of the original GG was Chuck Bass.

[@robynmolina]

@@nocturnalanimals5884 yes! also zoya's dad tbh.

[@Chuuzus]

the problem with the gossip girl reboot in my opinion is the writing. it wasn’t as good as the first one. the first one always left us on a cliffhanger while the reboot every drama was solved before the end of an episode.

[@trinaq]

Agreed, they even revealed who Gossip Girl was at the end of the first episode, which killed the suspense.

[@WinterWind]

It was a meandering story. Moved way too slowly

[@alxisl]

With WB being pretty much bankrupt im at least grateful for the two seasons we saw, hopefully another network picks it up because season 2 was picking some of the original’s charm!

[@Anarchangel349]

They also shouldnt have revealed the half-sister storyline in the first ep

[@ss_avsmt]

Yeah, the writing on the first one was bad enough. Plus leaving on cliffhangers is not a mark of good writing.

[@vannimoon1539]

It failed because no character had the It factor like Blair waldorf or Serena.

[@sophiapalma8769]

i think if they had invested more on her monet would've been able to reach that status

[@TheSingingEater1.0]

It girls change over time and this reboot is so ahead of it’s time that old timers can’t catch on

[@TheLynxAngel]

As a Blair Waldorf stan, Monet had the makings of being her spiritual successor, if not already. For whatever reason they didn't want to give her a decent story line and screen time😒

[@mizzypink8]

I agree and it seemed like they were afraid to make the characters catty and that was my main concern before the show came out in the first place

[@gee2541]

@@TheSingingEater1.0 so ahead of its time that it got canceled 💀

[@alessandracardenas5911]

The drama is what made gossip girl iconic, the reboot tried so hard to make excuses for bad decisions and tried to make the characters good for some reason while the original didn't care about making the characters look bad

[@ZariDV]

It's almost like the series was afraid that if they allowed the characters to be bad, their young audience would find them unlikeable, not want to watch them and mentally "cancel" them. It just made them appear flip floppy. None of them could stand in their decisions and perspective. One minute Julien is acting like she's oh so bad and the next minute she's crying about it and apologizing before doing it all over again. It's like these people created a hit show in the past and had no idea what made it take off so they removed all of it in the reboot.

[@alessandracardenas5911]

@@ZariDV exactly! And a lot of shows nowadays too. They're so afraid of making characters real and non pc that we rarely see iconic portrayals anymore

[@ry5604]

That’s what I hate with most new shows. It’s all too PC. Everyone becomes to cookie cutter. These new shows focus more on being inclusive and making sure no one is left out. Which wouldn’t be a problem, if they didn’t forget that they need to look at acting abilities, weather the actor can pull off what the character exudes. And not be afraid to make the characters get dirty lol

[@Sebisajiminstan]

Exactly!!! Like not one of them was good people. They had some good traits, sometimes, maybe, but their main thing was that they were pretty fucked up individuals. They were likable tho, and extremely charismatic, so we loved them anyway. Trying to reboot gossip girl with clean cut politically correct rich teens just doesn’t work. I’m actually so confused as to why they thought this would be a good idea.

[@ZariDV]

@@Sebisajiminstan I know right? We liked the OG characters in spite of how how terrible they were. They were overly dramatic, messy, vengeful, rich kids but they sold it well and we loved them anyways. I mean a Chuck character having a redemption is a tough pitch but they managed to make people like him over time. They just made these new characters so confused and boring. Monet and her family is the only kids and adults worthy of the series. Luna and Max too actually if they got more to work with.

[@TSUNAMI-MAMI]

Because: why do we need to reboot EVERYTHING??? When it didn’t even end 10 years ago??? Hollywood is so washed up and constantly recycling shit. It’s unnecessary for all these reboots and constant sequels. 🤷‍♀️

[@lalalalaaAa123]

It’s because the people who watched these shows as teenagers are now old enough to bring their fanfic to the screen 😅

[@SoWhosGae]

@@lalalalaaAa123 Looool legit

[@neffyg35]

Agree. Sometimes you can't catch lightning in a bottle twice

[@asalways1504]

@@lalalalaaAa123 winner, winner, chicken dinner lol!

[@alexgilmour3907]

Seriously! The medium of television isn't even a century old! HOW have so many run out of original ideas?

[@shleywheaton]

One thing that bothered me was that they clearly tried to make all the characters good despite all their privilege and wealth. It’s like watching jersey shore expecting them to be classy. It doesn’t mix. Sometimes we just need some trashy tv

[@ashlismith8596]

Agreed

[@DesiCat789]

@@Sunny-kp8hm Yeah but the original GG already had that covered - Serena and Nate were the ‘nice’ kids but they were still rich and privileged and it showed

[@cherie5905]

@@Sunny-kp8hm more specifically the comment is pointing out how in GG they are the 1% who often get their money through underpaying and screwing over others. When a person is born in this specific privilege and wealth it's hard to be a good person. I mean the characters literally get teachers fired for a bad grade (that they deserved). A real life example is the college admissions scandal. Rich kids not understanding why they shouldn't get into these ivy schools eventhough they didn't do the work and took a spot from a deserving person. When someone talks about this kind of privilege it's not simply being able to have food in the fridge but having 5 homes with fully stocked fridges.

[@shleywheaton]

@@Sunny-kp8hm privilege is bad, it’s inherent in the definition. It’s what you do with that privilege that matters of course, but baseline it’s a special advantage. In the context of New York’s elite/Gossip Girl world, no I don’t think any of them are good people..

[@jhnnfr98]

@@Sunny-kp8hm meritocracy of the ULTRA RICH? 😂😂

[@Xblackjckqueen]

my biggest pet peeve is that they never let ANYTHING sit and marinate for more than one episode. like i’m sorry but how else are we supposed to believe these characters and their thoughts and feelings and behaviours if they’re switching and changing a couple times each episode to suit them ?? like zoya and obie imo could’ve been great together if the show had actually given time for their romance to blossom and i truly think that she could’ve been a great part to his arc of wanting to better than his family and she would’ve gotten another in into the upper east side. i also didn’t believe in the relationships between any of the characters, the acting sucked most of the time and the plots were just utter nonsense. honestly im glad this show flopped and was cancelled, whitney peak u will ALWAYS be famous !!!!!!

[@Beanaleann]

I think shows like gossip girl really benefitted from longer seasons so we could sit in beef a little longer.

[@SLone3251]

Right. The only thing that sat and marinated was the thropple plotline -- it lasted all of season 2.

[@flowersandperfume355]

I agree. although I loved the part when julien and obie got back together since I thought they had better chemistry and that sense of longing was clearly there, but then they had obie dump julien in the season finale and then have julien continue to chase him while he keeps paying her dust. what was the point of that

[@alwayshaley325]

Also, literally none of the actors had any chemistry with eachother. I don’t believe any of them were actually into eachother

[@insideroutside]

Facts

[@lavdoria510]

the boys are actually close friends off camera, idk about the girls

[@bray6515]

All the girls are really close especially the actresses that play Luna and Monet

[@alinahll]

In the original gossip girl the actors where all the same age and friends in real life, here some are 10 years older than their characters. The actress of julien is literally older than the actress of the teacher.

[@Valentineatelier]

@@alinahll that last part always got me😭

[@taylorgayhart9497]

What bothers me most is the missed potential of social media, and how teens have become almost their own gossip girls, putting it all out there.

[@neffyg35]

Because it's adults writing teenagers

[@neffyg35]

@@randomuser0483 maybe when they are drawing from their own experiences or consult teenagers but this show felt like it was written by someone who only knows about teenagers from Twitter and tumblr

[@MoonsCamelot]

The show made such bizarre choices. It was so obvious Monet should've been the queen bee and lead character from the start but Safran almost seemed to resent that and how much the audience enjoyed her.

[@BellesView]

Exactly! Safran is the reason for the reboot’s demise. It doesn’t deserve to be picked up with him as the showrunner.

[@Nyxthebat04]

I dont get why people say this. Monet was incredibly insufferable. Julien was spoiled and a bad actor but even then she was more charismatic than Monet.

[@witchplease9695]

@@Nyxthebat04Monet had the charisma Julian lacked as well as the ruthless ambition of Blair. She would have been a great lead.

[@Nyxthebat04]

@witch, please I guess my opinion is unpopular but she was seriously the most insufferable character in the show for me. Such mean girl wanna be energy.

[@anacarl5035]

@@Nyxthebat04 monet was a MUCH more compelling character than julien. she was a better actor and had complex relationships with her parents that could have explored so much more. her likability doesn’t determine her potential as a plot device. she easily could’ve been one of the greatest villains you loved to hate. they really could have done so much with her character.

[@shakibaraki]

in reality i just dont think most rich kids care about being woke or socially aware. it wouldve been an interesting angle to see how they pretend to be one way in the public eye / social media but not so progressive in reality

[@Crawlingdreams418]

exactly, especially considering this actually happens irl, when celebs post some "bare minimum" type of posts till someone reveals a recent video or audio recording where they say such vile shit, you'd think they're someone's grandpa from the 50s

[@nomahope3182]

Let us be honest only 1% of the people in the world are woke. 99% still think like their grandparents 😂😂😂. Even the generation Z.

[@ry5604]

That’s the problem tho. Why does it need to be socially aware? Or “woke”.. that’s what is ultimately ruining most shows. It’d be better if it left out any political aspects.

[@shakibaraki]

@@ry5604 thats what i said 🤣

[@juanitacanon3120]

@@ry5604 I don’t know, what I think ruined this show is bad writing not woke themes

[@theblackrose7935]

The part about Julian entering the story as new money actually would have been great actually.

[@MoonShadow333]

It worked for Camila Mendes’ character in the Do Revenge movie. She was the It girl but her lack of money was always holding her back

[@nicolahhh]

@@yukijames1321 right like looking back at the first season of the og we find out that serena slept with her best friend’s boyfriend, no one knows why she went to boarding school or why she came back, her and blair have beef because she left without saying anything, her and dan’s mom and dad have dated before, plus the party where dan fights chuck. and all of that played out in the first episode lmao. the reboot didn’t need to start with that much drama but it needed to come harder than it did.

[@cgm530]

'they're so uninteresting that i'm often left wondering why anyone would spend the time gossiping about them to begin with' took me out that's so true

[@olivialayne06]

I found a lot of the acting on the show distractingly bad. The OG cast may not have won any Emmy’s for their roles, but I at least bought what they were selling and had a fun time watching. The reboot wasn’t fun and the acting was questionable at best. I swear they casted some people just based on vibes.

[@Missmagazinebura]

Only Max Monet and Luna can act

[@cutekittycat521]

@@Missmagazinebura Lina lmao no she can’t Monet was just a basic character in any teen movie tbh nothing like the oh gg characters that had depth and skeletons in the closet no one cares about mommy issues we wanna see a teen show not a political show based on parents and so called teen parties which were are events for parents

[@Sebisajiminstan]

I cannot like this comment more than once, but i would if i could. An actor going for it, bringing charisma to their character and making them likable through sheer force of will is basically what made Chuck Bass - well, Chuck Bass. You cannot tell me this character, especially in the beginning, would’ve became a fan favorite if it wasn’t played as well as he was. And a cast of actors standing by their characters can carry even some of the worst storytelling. The people cast in the reboot made me feel like they thought they were waaaaaay too good for the roles they were playing, like this was beneath them somehow. And it just took me out of the show completely. I just didn’t believe any of them.

[@tinash8666]

I honestly feel like the spanish teen drama "Elite" kind of encompasses everything the gossip girl reboot needed to be. The story has an interesting mystery that keeps the audience hooked, while simultaneously having a cast of characters with very distinct and strong personalities that move the story forward. It discusses the themes about how different people are treated based on their wealth and status, along with the soap opera-esque energy a lot of teen shows have. The earlier seasons heavily showcase how the ultra rich can get away with things, whilst the less privileged students can't. In my opinion Elite already catered to the audience that grew up with the og gossip girl. 🤷‍♀

[@Jayjay_07]

That is a really good take that shows that there really was no need for the reboot when other shows already filled the space. And I would even say that the GG reboot could have worked, if it was its own product instead of a failed successor.

[@CheerBeautyAndBows]

Im an OG gg fan and Elite has my heartttt. Too bad that they totally have ruined it but I still watch because I love the drama

[@lunaoliveira7965]

This is so true, but Elite’s most recent seasons have been absolutely ridiculous, so many plot holes and explicit s*x scenes it just seems like glorified p*rn.

[@Maria-rj9ys]

Elite season 1 was fun but after that I don't think season 2 and 3 are as good as people say. It's entertaining if you're into cheating scandals and fights all the time but character development is trash

[@tinash8666]

@@Jayjay_07 Yess you phrased it so much better than I did! I also wanted to add that Elite is one of Netflix's more popular shows, so there isn't even the excuse that not enough people would know about it/they wouldn't give it a chance because it isn't attached to an iconic media licence. And I also agree with the fact that the GG reboot would have survived longer if it wasn't attached to the og.

[@k213389]

The success of the original show also had a lot to do with good casting--specifically Leighton Meester as Blair. In the books Blair is pretty unlikable and annoying. But Leighton brings the character a wounded humanity so that her antics are all grounded in something deeper. She basically anchors the show to me.

[@thomashong2938]

✅💯

[@LadyVandMrT]

For sure, 100% yes. Blaire was the single beat part of the show, and her romance with Dan is amazing, and her growth. Chuck's growth... Just massive, well formed character arcs.

[@analuzanoni]

One of the most frustrating things about the show was just how boring it was. How did they manage to make a show about rich people being awful boring??

[@dolphinsky24]

One of my many problems with the reboot is that it was aimless. Hardly any characters had any motivations or goals they were working towards, which made it hard to root for anyone. In the season 1 finale, they built up Monet wanting to be the new queen bee, but that ended a few episodes into season two. Apparently Zoya wanted to be either an actress or a writer, but that was never explored. Aki was into film and got one episode at the film festival, but the show made it about his relationship. I don’t even know what Audrey or Max wanted because their characters were only defined by the throuple. I wasn’t surprised at all that the reboot was cancelled.

[@nomahope3182]

This is true. It just seemed like their lives revolved around romantic, family relationships and friendships. Nothing about school, nothing about the careers they wanted to pursue after high school.

[@NotSorry97]

The drama is what kept me watching the reboot. The finale reminded of how bad the writing is. Julien was obsessive and annoying and the whole “bring Gossip Girl down” thing was dumb. They kept throwing Max under the bus, Audrey was bossy and annoying af, Obie is boring, etc. There was barely any character development either. The only character development we got to see was Luna and Monet.

[@Missmagazinebura]

Obie betraying Julien

[@TamESQ]

What I didn’t like about the reboot was it was trying way tooooooooo hard to be woke. As a black woman, I’m absolutely all for diversity, including the lgbt community in mainstream media, etc… but let it be done more authentically. They just threw way too much in. Two dads, one of them trans, pansexual character in a threesome relationship, etc… like they’re shoving all things progressive into a small box that is the show. I agree. It comes off forced and condescending.

[@Crawlingdreams418]

I'm gonna speak from my queer side and i noticed that, too. What's ironic is that there is older content that handled political awareness more appropriately than other works. I'm guessing it's bc the new audience is less demanding and they use our identities like shields from criticism, even if the writing actually is much to be desired or just horrible. I remember older members of my generation being really harsh and calling ppl out on tokenism whenever it occurred. Like, I'm sorry, but if a writer is gonna go "look, she's gay" and not expand on the character as a person and their arc, the character sucks.

[@TamESQ]

@@Crawlingdreams418 true

[@strawberrylime33]

THIS!!!! yes, the show tried to throw in every current topic and debate of the last 5 years, and handled every single one terribly.

[@M123Xoxo]

It's also not as appealing to the majority of the audience, simply because the majority of people are straight. A lot of the hook of the original Gossip Girl was alpha male Chuck Bass. And a lot of guys watched Gossip Girl for the "hot girls" who were very feminine. In the reboot the guys are feminine and most of the girls are masculine/alternative.

[@josephine1465]

@@M123Xoxo yes. you nailed it. this is just the reality.

[@msfthe1st117]

the biggest issue with Gossip Girl 2.0 is its lack of commitment to…anything really. even the most interesting of the conflicts it creates suffer from a lack of follow-through and bite, character dynamics never really change, no one is allowed to be genuinely awful without any caveats (except Queen Monet). Season 2 I will say was a marked improvement in many regards, especially in setting up actually engaging plotlines and twists like Monet’s it girl coup, the wedge between Julien and Audrey, Luna’s desire to define herself beyond being Julien’s stylist/lackey, and the return of Georgina Sparks to add a burst of necessary chaos to the proceedings. I even liked that the show was finally framing Kate’s actions as actively villainous and self-serving (with way less feeble justification and way more malice and arrogance). yet the central issue persisted in that most of these storylines petered out pretty quickly or were otherwise not taken to their fullest potential (see Obie’s relationship with duplicitous Grace or Monet’s two minions and her role as the Blair to Julien’s Serena).

[@ishizukahikaru643]

I still prefer the word Queen-B, Qween-M is a beta version.

[@MoonShadow333]

The OG Gossip Girl show was so good because it was both aspirational and relatable. A broke student like me back then would only hope to have at least one of the accessories that the girls wore, but at the same time, we all felt insecure like Blair or emotionally neglected like Chuck. This GG reboot was just there. The clothes were ugly, the characters plain and and annoying and the teachers…Don’t even let me start with the teachers. They acted like teens. I understand the feeling of wanting to denounce students who abuse their privileges but c’mon!

[@lessthanthree3528]

you took the words right out of my mouth for real. the original gg holds such a special place in my heart and i did read the books before the show aired lol even though i had no business reading that in 6th grade😂 but when the showed premiered it was such a style influence on my young 7th grade self

[@AndreaGonzalez-qf1cw]

I really wished we’d see more of Luna and Monet😭 They were the only ones that kept me watching. I also liked the triad they were the only cute relationship I just wanted to see more of them doing cute relationship things instead of focusing on the sexual aspect of their relationship.

[@victoriarosa1762]

I hated the actors for Audrey and aki, so when they paired them With the super charismatic thomas Doherty they sometimes acted like a charisma vacuum and made those story lines boring

[@stxrstrxckmxteo515]

@@victoriarosa1762 i reallyyyy like Evan Mock but I think he’s better suited for modeling that acting….

[@stxrstrxckmxteo515]

@@victoriarosa1762 the same goes for emily alyn lind tbh she’s super pretty but she was very dry as Audrey and not in a good way

[@Foodloverxx]

I think gossip girl is too early to be rebooted/recycled. The original will always be my favorite and it'll always remain iconic.

[@mariamarzuelo4027]

I'm so tired of political correctness. I already know what's morally right or wrong, I don't need a show to educate me. I want evil, complicated and controversial characters and storylines!

[@digistra9893]

"I want rich people so horrible that there's no way in excusing their behaviour" - I want this as well!

[@mattsaracen7]

I think teen dramas need long seasons. 8 or 10 episodes is not enough to establish and develop characters and relationships. The main appeal of these shows is the dynamic between the characters, not the plot. With so few episodes, the relationships feel surface level and unconvincing.

[@Sebisajiminstan]

This is such a good point.

[@SkippyLaughlin]

This. Most streaming have so little episodes and rushed plots and barely fleshed out characters

[@snakesnoteyes]

This is an excellent point

[@DesiCat789]

Really good point!!

[@Lalalasparklesunshine]

I think it usually has to do with working hours for the actors. I heard if seasons have 18-22 episodes those actors are extremely overworked

[@whatalsaid]

Finding out Gossip Girl was ALMOST a Lindsay Lohan movie Is wild. But finding out she was going to play Blair is even WILDER. I kinda wish this took off, though. I imagined it would have been like Mean Girls but in a prep school.

[@caitlingill]

Lindsay should have been Serena tbh

[@LadyVandMrT]

I am so so so glad that never happened.

[@sonjaimmonen6610]

My biggest problem with the revival was the lack foundation and build up. Who are these characters, what are their dynamics and how do they develop. Nothing is brewing underneath the surface. I just started rewatching the original show and I love how they are taking the time to create conflicts. How Serena's "I can explain" really starts eating away her relationship with Dan and her friendship with Blair. How Blair and Nate are on and off and how Chuck affects it and how it affects Chuck. Also I love how they build up how CeCe affected Lily and how Lily is trying not to repeat her mother's mistakes. Also everyone is trying to better themselves and everyone relapses. And they relapse hard. The reboot is so quick to come up with a plotline, then run through and get it over with within an episode and then toss it aside, never to be discussed again. You can't explore the issues of these people, if they don't have any. Also I really liked how the original show had many different levels of issues the characters faced. There were the superficial rich people problems, but there were also really human problems like a lot of the rich kids were somehow neglegted by their parents or Jenny's struggles in finding her self, while trying to fit in. The relationships had to struggle with trust issues, timing, heartbreak etc. There were relatable elements but also absurd rich people problems.

[@sonjaimmonen6610]

I started thinking about Audrey's character. It would have been an interesting direction, if she was introduced as nonchalant, but the gossip girl blasts would start making her care more, she started to develop opinions and feelings amd struggling to get others to take them seriously, because they assume she's okay with stuff.

[@LadyVandMrT]

Man the episode where Lily leaves Serena in jail has me feeling goosebumps remembering it. Lily is an exceptional female role model and a testament to the strength of the women on top of the world. And the weaknesses too. It was so well done. This is why I never watched the reboot. I just knew it'd be bad.

[@britneykisakye4366]

The thing I hated was how gossip girl was revealed to be the teachers, TEACHERS!! meaning they were STALKING the students, taking inappropriate pictures of there UNDERAGE students 😃 And what angered me the most is how Kate, (the one revived gossip girl) kept acting as if bullying and talking her students were fine, she even said that it could create the next AOC….yea.

[@miko-ee]

I wish it was acknowledged to be disgusting. To drive a storyline. Maybe arrested! Given that someone new would be great.

[@MissAfricanAmerican99]

My thoughts: First of all, they told us who Gossip Girl was in te beginning. THE TEACHERS? No teacher would risk their job for that. They tried so bad to make people care about the conflicts in the show. Most ppl don't care that much about photos hoots and events - even with the people they follow. The only remotely good scenes I can think of were the part about Julien's dad SA'ing women and the part where Luna breaks with her mom (with Monet by her side). They also made Monet "the bad guy" when she literally could've stopped following after Julien any time she wanted and started her own channel instead of being intentionally combative. Audrey gets on my nerves. That stunt she pulled on Julien was low. And the relationship she, Dracula and Aki were in was a trash portrayal of polyamorous love.

[@floevs7960]

Gossip Girl fail because they changed GG herself Shes not supposed to have a face Shes a tabloid, a faceless massager who’s everywhere and knows everything. You don’t fight GG, you avoid her, you hide. They should have had the main plot being the group doing scandalous shit in secret while GG ends up finding it out. But instead of trying ‘change’ them, she would be simply reporting it and many characters even using as their advantages The characters are no bad people, just spoiled and larger than life who want to enjoy life at the extreme

[@littlerocker121314]

She is a glitz and glamour version of Big Brother.

[@Anarchangel349]

Exactly! GG isn’t supposed to be a character, let alone a villain. She’s a narrative device

[@christiansimamora1720]

Well it works with Lady Whistledown in Bridgerton. I don't think that's the problem. So agree with the narrator, they're trying to make the characters good it ends up condescending.

[@sallypark9139]

21:41 fr i don't care about believability when i'm watching a teen drama. like i'm here with my suspension of disbelief goggles on ready to fully accept that the character has a secret half brother we've never heard about before

[@sims2lovealot]

The original Gossip Girl was so good because the characters were awful, and yet you were still rooting for them (well, not all of them. Vanessa can gtfo). They also had amazing charisma and were such good actors. Every time Blair, Serena or Chuck walked onto the screen, they drew so much attention to themselves without even trying and you were excited to see what they would do. By comparison, everyone in the reboot except for Monet is bland, from their styling, to their acting, to their storylines, to their presence. And let's not get started on the teachers as Gossip Girl.

[@_chelcie]

hahaha vanessa 😂 she always annoyed me for some reason

[@sims2lovealot]

@@_chelcie she was so annoying haha

[@snakesnoteyes]

Everyone hates Vanessa 😂

[@rawrbabez3]

the hate for vanessa how many years later is so lame

[@LadyVandMrT]

​​@@_chelcieVanessa is always watching lol

[@nataliaquiroga4015]

The idea of Julien being new money via influencer brand is sooo good, there would have been actual stakes it could have been so interesting, and then Julien selling her friends could've made sense in a quid pro quo kind of way!!!!!

[@hera8909]

They should have made Monet the main character

[@beatlesrock234]

The issue is that doing a gossip girl reboot where all the kids are pretty well adjusted and cool with each other is like doing a vampire diaries reboot without the vampires. I didn’t tune into GG to be preached to, I tuned in to watch all of the characters be kinda shitty to each other and for the drama

[@gabrielcarvalho6085]

For me what was wrong about it was the fact that they tried to make everything soo diverse that it get's forced. I mean everyone is gay, bi, lesbian, trans, is bald have pink hair dress drag and that's not how it works in real life. We have more diversity than 2008, when the OG aired, but it's not as much as the show wanted to be. As much as kids nowdays know more about what is politically correct, the show pushed too much on that side. They were all the time trying to be the '' voice of moral'' and '' kill the rich'', but at the same time dressed 20K outfits and lived happy in their mansions. For me, it would be better if they owned it, as it happens in the real life, rather than pretend they don't like it when they do. I mean why are you making a show about rich kids if them don't like being rich - or they kind of like it but never admit it? Another thing is that everything is so rushed. Sisters wants to make emends? Just hug and everything wrong is gone! Someone cheated? Says i'm sorry and nothing happened. Someone lied? Buy some lunch and everything is fine. We never see the full completion of an history.

[@letrailhall-nance9189]

i actually loved the dynasty reboot. Then again Elizabeth Gilles can make me watch anything and I admit I watched it 95% of the time just for Fallon

[@inactive120]

because they didn't get lily rose depp to be chuck & blair's daughter, and didn't get a bunch of other nepo babies bc that would've been Iconic and like making fun of the entire concept.

[@melber9408]

That would’ve been great

[@carmindi5061]

No thank you

[@javierlopez9789]

Because they would be like 10 years old...

[@carolinesa91]

I think they tried to avoid the traditional teen drama tropes, like the mean girl, the tomboy, etc and don't understand that these things are what makes these shows successful. You don't have to make it stereotypical, we've seen in the original Gossip Girl how Blair, Chuck, Serena etc were complex characters, even though they had an archetype as a solid foundation for their personalities. Archetypes are good guides for character building. From there you can develop more and intertwine their distinct personalities with the plot. Since the screenwriters of this show wanted to avoid this fundamental aspect of character development, everything feels random and uninteresting. As a writer, you have to write your characters in a way that the audience learns how these characters would behave in certain situations, so when something happens to them during the story, everything feels genuine and believable. For example, we all know how Blair would react if she got a bad grade or Dan or Serena or Chuck. With the reboot characters we have no idea. They're so bland and generic there's nothing distinct about them.They have no clear qualities and flaws. It's boring to watch.

[@thomasrowsell116]

thing is they had a good template and some amazing characters in Max, Monet and Luna; and there biggest failing was underusing them and renegading them to background characters with little to do and few individual storylines. This season was supposed to focus more on Monet, and it gradually reverted to being about Obe, Julian And Zoya, bland characters. which is a shame, because Thomas Doherty, Savannah Lee and Ziòn Moreno being some of the most talented actors in the cast. especially considering how little they had the actors really fleshed out these characters with little storyline.

[@natashakwan5657]

the first gossip girl was so iconic. they should have left it alone if they were not going to do it justice honestly. and lets be honest, the gen z teen shows/movies of today is just not cutting it.

[@JadoreLulu]

Probably because they try so hard to be PC that it seems forced.

[@javierlopez9789]

Cobra kai is The only one thats worth watching.

[@josephine1465]

The problem is the producers/writers are afraid to take risks because everything is offensive nowadays. A society full of crybabies and virtue signaling hives.

[@silvergust]

@@josephine1465 i don't think that goes with everything though. times change, it just is what it is and some media does and doesn't know how to adapt

[@LadyVandMrT]

​@@silvergustname one recent TV show that isn't total shit and I will believe this is "times change" and not something else.

[@emankhurram]

Agree with everything, except, when watching the og gossip girl, it was NEVER on my mind "who gossip girl is", cause all gossip girl did was...report stuff that the characters were already doing. The real drama of the show comes from the characters poor actions. I think the creator of the show actually says he didn't want people to actively think about gossip girl. She could have been a random character and I wouldn’t care.

[@phosphenevision]

same, og GG felt more like a narrator than a character, they gave insight into the world of the characters and it really didn't seem that important who it was to me. the audience speculation/conversation about it outside of the show is probably what got people interested in who it was rather than the show itself making it be an intriguing mystery

[@gee2541]

they should have left it a mystery instead of forcing it into one of the main characters

[@nicolahhh]

omg i literally said the same thing. like the show was filled with so much drama that it never really crossed my mind. i only thought about it a little during season 2 when they try to figure out who it is, but even after that it wasn’t that big of a deal to me. gg always felt like more of an entity than a character.

[@LadyVandMrT]

​@@gee2541it doesn't feel forced to me at all. Dan as Gossip Girl is brilliant.

[@realbharbiexoxo]

With instagram’s declining people’s attention, I think that was a problem too, many people are tired of this social media thing, even celebrities are tired of social media so.

[@sheridanfrancis4814]

When the reboot revealed GG in episode 1 it gave me an idea for how it could’ve made for a really interesting twist later on. They could’ve done Kates hero to villain arc through just season 1. She starts Gossip Girl back up in hopes of truly holding a mirror up to the students behaviour, having them see themselves for what they truly are. Maybe we even flesh out her character, learning of her own traumatic past with bullying that’s lead her to make this bad decision. Things don’t work as planned though, and Kate grow more power hungry and mean spirited as things progress. By the end of season 1 she has her “come to Jesus” moment, she sees that she’s become exactly what she set out to stop. Just as she’s about to delete the account it’s revealed that she’s locked out. Someone else has control of Gossip Girl. We end the season not knowing who GG is anymore, or if they know Kate’s identity.

[@madelinekouassi9884]

Wow you're good !!

[@sheridanfrancis4814]

@@madelinekouassi9884 it’s not so much that as the writing was so bad my brain started trying to figure out if they were setting up something batter down the line lol

[@philasandeM6]

The annoying thing with what you just said is that. When they announced season 2 was coming they initially used this idea on an Instagram post. They showed Kate being locked out of the Gossip Girl account. I was so excited caused I assumed that that is where season 2 would be going. Instead, Kate resumed her duties of Bullying and Stalking teenagers.

[@sheridanfrancis4814]

@@philasandeM6 it could’ve been good but no one actually had any idea where this show was going or who the characters were so they just did *stuff* every episode to no end. Any time there was an interesting idea they’d forget about it immediately, so much so that apparently they even did that on their socials?!

[@daniellesve5595]

It's sad because briefly scrolling thru any social media or fanfiction site will prove there is no short in creative and original ideas, it's just that no one wants to spend the money on them

[@caleballen3202]

Obie was the most confusing character like the writers didn't know what to do with him. For julien I thought we would get a story line or atleast a line on how she was just a figure head for luna and monet to be queen just cause they were always manipulating her

[@georginalewis6153]

I think it's just bad timing - we didn't need another reboot. In the 00s social media was still a fairly new thing, so that made it more fresh, and also the whole preppy skinny era was fashionable which isn't the case now!

[@javierlopez9789]

@@randomuser0483 nah

[@Wildwildkanyewest]

It was boring, performative, corny, and we get it Julian. You want to be better.

[@Missmagazinebura]

Hm yes but how can she be better if her family is gone ?

[@javierlopez9789]

@@Missmagazinebura by being better.

[@neivilde.1242]

my main problem with it is definetly the lack of connection in the friend group. introducing to a hot group of kids that hang out and are friends without showing us, it made no sense. most of these characters would never talk to each other. and it bothers me so much because i LOVE FRIEND GROUPS. but every time these people hung out it felt forced. like audrey is established as julien's best friend, and aki's girlfriend, and max's friend, she never even talks to anyone else unless she has to, and I'm like why are y'all hanging out. i get it, everyone is connected to at least one person in the group, but it still feels super shallow, i wish they were all more friends or something. and the characterization was a bit messy, they always called julien the queen bee, and how she would never stand for this or that, but also they say julien got her throne because she is nice, and people like her. i just wanted them to be clear on what they wanted. i love the idea of julien getting to the top by being nice, and having a powerstruggle with monet. everyone had 2 character traits and were stuck with them all show, not allowed to explore any emotion beyond that. aki will forever be the worst betrayal. i get that most of it is due to evan not being an actor and not even wanting to be in the show lmao, but everything about him was supposed to be my fave. he's a cool looking, bi, skater boy, chill, film nerd who wants the best for the people he loves, that is my MAN right there, but he got nothing to do besides be with audrey and max, and like 2 storylines of his own. i really thought that the episode where he was at the film festival and his partners not showing up was gonna be the moment he finally speaks up about his needs or something, but no, they used it all as an excuse to break up the triad in such a dumb way like simply frustrating.

[@MoonShadow333]

Yes! They always said stuff like “we know each other since we were babies” but it never felt like that. I would have made sense if they were indeed close but suddenly they notice they don’t have anything in common anymore.

[@47jjak]

So true. The fact that we had 2 seasons and each of these characters had at least 3 or more people in the friend group that they never had an actual conversation with on screen is mind-blowing. In the second to last episode where the group ambushed julien with an intervention. They were literally just sitting in silence before she arrived, which is so funny cause it shows they have nothing to talk about when julien isn't around.

[@neivilde.1242]

@@MoonShadow333 yes i would've loved if they realized they grew apart, in the finale julien said did you realize that this is the first time we used the group chat, as if all s2was supposed to be them falling out, but they were barely friends in s1????

[@mayaleeleng]

Not 'rip girl' 💀 Due to the some what nostalgia, attractive cast, and explicit content, I actually thought the reboot would make it.

[@francescaintheusa]

I think so many of us are sick of the nostalgia industrial complex but we are nostalgic so there is this inability to understand that nostalgia won’t lead to viewership of an upcycled IP. Also so many of them feel so forced in their currentness/attempts at the socially-aware zeitgeist but it doesn’t feel integral. It’s why the reboots will, imo, at best feel soothing and at worst cringe

[@M123Xoxo]

I feel like even if they weren't reboots, a lot of these shows fail to capture the true cultural zeitgeist. It's like they're pandering to a few loud Twitter voices and assuming that's what 99% of Americans want.

[@lilzuplada1564]

Go woke, go broke. Original Gossip Girl was a hit because different demographics watched it.

[@kathylennerds750]

The gossip girl identity thing is so strange. These days so many schools just casually have gossip accounts managed by some random kid who gets confessions, rumors and the like sent to them. It’s all right there!

[@kaylac349]

Succession does a way better job crafting an entertaining show about the rich and privileged

[@almostatami]

Yes! The writing is so precise and witty.

[@Kevin-rg3yc]

One thing I was disappointed about the revival was the missed opportunity to talk about how different classism was in the new age vs back in the original series. In the original series the upper East side kids used to have a heart attack when the word Brooklyn came up bc of the association to working class hence why Dan, Jenny and Vanessa were bullied by the rich kids and that instead represented the climate of celebrity culture of the 2000s, I mean people like ignore Paris Hilton well documented racist and classist behavior and comments or better yet we can look how the premise of the simple life was entirely where two socialites interacting in a community that never had idea it existed Now in todays celebrity culture, we seen nepo babies, celebrities and even performers with wealthy backgrounds co-opting and cosplaying into working class POC aesthetics and cultures. Of course the Kardashians are the biggest examples especially since they low key started it but even you have performers like Rosalia, lorde, Billie eilish etc are known to use their brands as being relatable by using working class POC cultures while publicly showing questionable or outright tone deaf politics to the people they appropriate . I think it would’ve been interesting to see that along the revival characters especially majority are mixed race or monoracial POC and could’ve been a great commentary of racial dynamics within classism, as well as patability, colorism, gentrification, whitewashing etc

[@anamarias_library]

I think the biggest issue was that they were trying to be "relatable" but at the same time keep the original show. I remember that when the first pictures came out, I thought that Monet was going to be the new Blair, but sadly I was disappointed. The thing is that in the original, we as the audience knew the role of each character in the group. Blair was queen B, Serena was it girl, etc, but with this new one we have no clues about what each character is supposed to be. Is Julien the mean girl that only shows her warm side to the people that she loves or is she the nice girl that everyone wants to be, but in secret has a dark side? The point of the OG version was that it showed "kids" living their lives like adults, it was absurd and iconic, and the only reason why they did not get in trouble was that they were rich and privileged. With the new version, it's just weird that a bunch of teachers, grown-ass adults, are taking out their frustration on children by cyberbullying them (I mean let's not forget that they are taking pictures of them in their underwear and such)

[@juliadebbesay9465]

The fact that in one of the GG book gg literally SAYS ”I’m way too fabulous to be a teacher is so funny to me”💀

[@alwayshaley325]

Just sad we don’t get more Thomas Doherty, I loved him in this.

[@alessandracardenas5911]

He was the only good thing about this tbh, he really made everyone else look like a bad actor in comparison

[@Missmagazinebura]

Nah he has a sad ending

[@sammoh3747]

@@randomuser0483 he’s only in a couple episode tho

[@Nyxthebat04]

He was amazing in this role! Best character fr. I need more of him lol

[@ninalempicka2948]

he was by far the best actor of this whole thing lol

[@urmom-yy7xg]

imo the gossip girl reboot would’ve been amazing if they had new writers AND new actors because half of the cast acting is awful

[@alessandracardenas5911]

Completely agree with the casting! At least half of them were miscasted. Honestly The actor for max was the only actor that did things right

[@Missmagazinebura]

I think Marlene king should have wrote the show

[@urmom-yy7xg]

@@alessandracardenas5911 yes and also the actress for monet, i thought she was really good as a mean girl

[@alessandracardenas5911]

@@urmom-yy7xg i agree she was good with what she was given, but she was so underutilized in the first season! What a waste of a great actress tbh

[@Kevin-rg3yc]

Right the actress who played Monet mother was amazing especially her monologue to Monet in season 2 she literally out acted the entire cast despite barely being on the show

[@rvawildcardwolf2843]

You can't have drama without driven, bitter, vengeful and yes TOXIC people. Making them nice kids taking turns with the idiot and villain balls is weak. Also, while I'm pro Diversity usually, the Gossip Girl world is so quintessentially WASP, having half the cast as POC and the open queer characters actually hurts the setting. Seeing outsiders make their mark in these circles and struggling with the old white establishment would be far more interesting than just hand waving all these characters being in an upper east side rich kid school.

[@LadyVandMrT]

YES. Thank you, someone finally fucking said it.

[@brandoniswhoiam]

When you said that you were gonna make a video about the Gossip Girl revival after your video on the trends that the original started… I didn’t expect it to come out after the official cancellation.

[@mallorycarpinski1160]

"Believability- something that has no place in a teen drama." Yup.

[@OfJournalandJourney]

This could've been done as an Anthology, showcasing a different character in their life as a NYC elite, such as one whose recently came into money, another whose family is old money and struggling within a traditional family and so forth and so forth ultimately having them meet at the end of season one and creating a much more interesting season two. What they tried to do I admit was humanize them in a sense that teens are looking to relate i.e social issues etc however, it felt like pandering. Ultimately, fashion wise it was fantastic though it left little to be desired and it shouldve been called by something different instead of just Gossip Girl.

[@damian8951]

Failed because it was woke. The original GG was good because it was bad. Even their whole season 1 campaign read 'mind blowingly inappropriate' 'every parent's nightmare' 'OMFG'.

[@adegg9616]

The reason why og GG was soo successful is the characters were insanely charismatic. Even after they lost “touch” from their original premise people still wanted to see THEM. Blair, Chuck were soo charismatic that many people forget the awful things they have done. Serena had one story line every season but people wanted to see HER. Hell even Dorota was charming enough to gain attention. This new GG doesn’t have same charisma. Julien is so bland, Zoya is too try hard, Audrey doesn’t have any characteristic other than being annoying and sexually progressive. Aki is a f ing tree. They should have casted actors who could bring the charisma. Even if they didn’t look the part the make up and costume department could have done their magic.

[@raysa_n]

I saw this from a mile away. The original gossip girl is a classic in my opinion and the cast was everything. It really had me hook when I was in high school❤️. One of my favorite shows.

[@Patchouliprince]

The first show was alllll mess and didn’t care about the chaos it left in its wake. That’s what made it beautiful lol. I never bothered watching the reboot because all clips and reviews I saw came off so sanitized and fake woke. I’m all for being progressive but reboots are “progressive” to a detriment, so fake and kitchy that it’s painful to even look at

[@LadyVandMrT]

Girl, same. ❤

[@flavialm1]

I always thought they should have made Zoya the instagram celebrity and that's how she was able to pay for that school, making her fame threatening to her sisters queen bee status. She wouldn't have friends at school but would have her followers and could weaponize them against her sister, plus showing her posting wonderfully things about the school and her day, while everything being owful, as time went on becaming more and more obsessed with her online live.

[@rahrahrasputin]

Honestly the whole thing was just boring. I felt nothing for no one, not even hate nor annoyance nor anger, just a ton of indifference. The characters were meh and their lives were meh. They aren't worth gossiping about, and I didn't care whether something happened with/to them or not. And the storyline of the teachers being GG fml🙄 throw it all in the trash

[@emscnpck]

none of the characters were even bad. they all were potrayed as good and didnt know what they wanted to be

[@lindsay3314]

They made a majority of the main cast unbearable. Zoya was dull and whinny, Julien tried too hard and the rest were dryyy. Max was the only semi-decent character. Plus nobody wants to see teachers invested in student SEX LIVES

[@lucypreece7581]

The original Gossip Girl passed me by when it aired because I was a bit too young for it when it aired but it is available on BBC iPlayer currently (I am British) so I think I might give it a go. It was a moment when it happened and I wanna see if it's my thing.

[@Xblackjckqueen]

i just watched it all on bb iplayer too for the first time last summer !!! it passed me by too when it originally aired and i have to say it is definitely of the time but it knows what it is ! it’s fun, it’s camp, it’s ridiculous but it’s also just so easy to watch, i recommend and then you should watch mikes mic’s unhinged recaps once you’ve finished :)

[@LadyVandMrT]

OG Gossip Girl is a stunning and wonderful show about terrible people who together, become less terrible over time. Do watch it. Then watch it again. Then watch it again and again and again and again because they'll never make a drama that good again.

[@AbsolutAlim]

Monet and Luna should’ve been the queen bees. Obi and julien were so bland.

[@dva5610]

It was way too rushed and the writing quality was poor.

[@gooseincrocs]

i think one big factor why the reboot failed was the friendship group. the og group made up of blair, serena, chuck and nate was a highlight of the original show and that was lacking in the reboot - they barely hung out together and sometimes didn't even act as friends

[@camillerijess]

I'm sorry I can't help myself but to correct - I'm pretty certain in the books neither Serena nor Blair ends up with Nate. In fact after 11 books of Nate going between the two girls, the girls take the matter into their own hands and choose each other over Nate, with both of them turning their backs on him. I thought it was a brilliant ending for the series.

[@thomashong2938]

✅💯

[@heatherramaekers7178]

because gen z's gossip girl is Euphoria. they're not interested in the millennials show being rebranded for a new generation.

[@vchalasani5046]

basically, say what you want about euphoria but is is essentially THE gen z show that managed to break out and reach insane levels of iconic fame in a world of stale corporatised bland millenial show reboots

[@LizzieHunterPaul]

OG Gossip Girl developed the friend group over every episode and built the drama from there. Reboot Gossip Girl didn't take that time and it made the character's conflicts feel awkward and hollow. The NatexBlairXSerena drama felt important within 10 minutes of the first episode. With ObiexJulienxZoya I struggled to care.

[@shelbyhudgins7981]

“We should not be handing out brownie points for attempting to do the bare minimum”. I think we as an audience & especially the producers of these types of shows don’t think about this. Yes, we ARE becoming more progressive as a society, but that shouldn’t be the only redeeming quality. Yes make them better types of people but make them have more depth as characters instead of “I’m a bitchy pansexual, get over it or you’re a bigot” type of vibe. I’m a pansexual, but I am not a bitchy one. 🤣 Edit: also writers/producers made every single character radiate the “main character “ energy when the original didn’t need to do that. They just had the depth & fabulousness that they WERE the main characters & didn’t need to try to force it towards the audience.

[@jodypark8898]

Everything was about the characters. It's not like the original was perfect. But with all its ridiculous plots and cheesy actings from some actors, we watched the origial Gossip Girl because its biggest asset was the characters. Blake Lively's Serena really had this 'it girl' factor. Her prettier but insecure friend Blair's character came alive with Leighton's acting. They sold the idea of super rich high school girls leading a fancy life and having outrageous problems. The new cast and characters never had those charms or hold over the audience.

[@sm1417]

Because the main characters were not appealing enough 🙄 😒 😑 they should have casted a proper cast

[@littlerocker121314]

9:12 I knew when Josh Safran tweeted that like he wasn’t on the old show himself it was going to be a mess, because Gossip Girl wasn’t about people doing the right things in life. No matter how much Vanessa and Dan condemn the rich all the time they always got their way and lived their best glamorous life and worried over frivolous things. The idea of them saying one thing online making a political statement and doing something else would had been perfect storyline.

[@jinxyhelix]

Gossip Girl was trashy, entertaining, fashion inspiring and was great escapism. I watch tv to be entertained, not preached to. That's another reason why I skipped the reboot. If I wanted to be preached to I would go to church. Hey hollywood! No more reboots!

[@camillerijess]

GG was a lightning in a bottle type situation, and whilst entirely problematic when looking back at it, it definitely captured a moment

[@M123Xoxo]

It's not problematic at all. It seems like people have forgotten what an antihero is. Just because a character does bad things doesn't mean the show runners or the fans endorse those behaviors. Characters who do bad things but are still very charming have been captivating audiences for centuries.

[@camillerijess]

@@M123Xoxo I understand your point and it is fair, I'm definitely not against antiheroes. I think the problem comes when the show does not frame them as such. Now I love Chuck Bass and I totally was onboard ship Chair, but the show never really truly dealt with the fact that he sexually assaulted two female characters early in season 1 and then turned into a main romantic lead by the end of the season. If they had framed him as a 'charming bad guy' that would have been okay, but it was more of a 'he's actually a good guy with a traumatic backstory' and they did this without him addressing his behaviour or showing remorse/growth. One apology to Jenny seasons later doesn't really count, IMO.

[@DesiCat789]

@@camillerijess It worked because there was bigger, badder guy than him - his uncle and dad. He ends up saving Lily from Jack and that is supposed to indicate his character changing. It’s implied he has become better. Nowadays everyone wants it to be spoonfed to the audience

[@LadyVandMrT]

​@@camillerijesshe showed remorse. You're not right about this. His character arc is amazing.

[@LadyVandMrT]

​@@DesiCat789the point of that episode is about Lily saving Chuck from becoming his uncle or dad. He saves Lily, but she was really saving him all along.

[@liliana-ib7em]

the show took itself too seriously. 2007 is messy and almost satirical whilst the reboot attempted to be better by wanting to be the opposite and get still have the appeal, leaving them at a crossroad and in confusion, they never know wtf they wanted to be

[@Kurooganeko]

What would og GG be without Blair Waldorf by Leight Meester? Exactly, nothing at all. Poor Meester still has scoliosis for carring that show on her back for so long!

[@thomashong2938]

✅💯

[@LadyVandMrT]

All of the OG GG actors are now A listers. All of them.

[@moodycactus]

The original Gossip Girl's guys were all hot. Even a lot of the dads etc. I think it was a mistake of the reboot not to follow that.

[@CacaoFlower]

The problem with the reboot is the reboot.

[@kelleymarina7933]

I think the creators really wanted to do something different than the original in terms of the major plot points- however they screwed themselves. They made gossip girl the most annoying individual I’ve ever seen on screen - not her fault, the writers wrote her that way- but a teacher? Really? Come on. The main cast of characters aren’t nearly interesting enough to make up for the lost mystique. Plus it’s so unrealistic- a teacher dumb enough to start up an ig account to expose students would absolutely get caught and fired. Not only is she petty and immature, but she’s also not at all redeemable like the original gossip girl was. In the OG, sometimes gg’s posts felt like divine justice - depending on the circumstances. But in this version - we all know from the start that it’s just a bitter teacher with an inferiority complex.

[@jessienerdis4179]

You make an excellent point - let's be real, most super super rich people didn't get their wealth by being relatable to the middle and working classes and dedicating all their time to help improve the world. They did it by screwing someone else over. Would be nice if shows represented that. There's too much of a disconnect between hoarding mounds of money and being seen as literally part of the problem of distribution of wealth globally

[@bumblebee7384]

I had think Dan being Gossip Girl was terrible writing. Still is terrible writing, yet as a concept, its something that I believe many of us “normal” people would have rooted for. I mean simply an upper middle class basically putting the trust fund babies under his games while also having moral defense as a persona, and having this “writing myself into this world” could have been a good concept. More than that, Dan is peers with the others. He controls his peers. In the reboot is basically adults trying to control kids, and well, that doesn’t feel right.

[@LadyVandMrT]

I think it is genius writing and that he was a natural fit for the reveal. I also think on rewatching the show a bajillion times, that it's just perfect. It's not awkward at all. So many times you could interpret his "surprise" as feigned and you can see the Blaire romance forming as an act of manipulation, how Dan is becoming more like Blaire in time so it fits. Just so so good. Not remotely lazy at all.

[@OOool]

yes! thank you! who wants "relatable" rich people? wtf even is that? lol

[@camillerijess]

' the show went for believability, something that has no place in a teen drama' 😂 so true

[@JadeCouture9093]

Monet and Luna should’ve been main characters I didn’t care for the Julian vs zoya

[@hyotmess]

They wanted to make gossip girl but “morally right”. You can’t make gossip girl and then drop social issues every 5 minutes. When we thought things were gonna get interesting with the whole Monet vs Julien plot, they ended it in like 2 episodes with a “female rivalry is wrong” speech, boring.