Why Did the Puritans Leave England?

[@LeahWalentosky]

This actually explains why religion plays such a large part in US society

[@VioletDeliriums]

Yet, there are many other influences in the US other than white Anglo-Saxon Protestants. England is not the center of the universe.

[@godzgoliath]

Unfortunately

[@freethinker424]

hopefully not for long as religious belief is on the decline

[@LeahWalentosky]

@@freethinker424 Only in some parts, Christain radicalism seems to be on the rise

[@seferino]

Religion used to be important. Not anymore thanks god 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@humblemarty]

I really like these videos. It really shows how colorful this stuff is.

[@VioletDeliriums]

it was all black and white back then.

[@zombies4evadude24]

@@VioletDeliriums and red…

[@hotmechanic222]

They didn't leave so they could have religious freedom as they already had that in England as was mentioned in the video, but because they wanted everyone to conform to their religion. Also the union between England and Scotland was in 1707 not 1603 FFS!!

[@victoire614]

They did not have "religious freedom" in England. They were banned from holding high ranking positions in the church and generally getting sidelined and discriminated against. It wasn't on the level of genocide or anything like that, but enough to make them want to leave where they could openly preach their views without getting fired or banished. That still counts as persecution. And yes some of them in the colonies forced their views on everyone there, but it was a mixed bag. Many Puritans like Peter Bulkeley and John Winthrop were fairly liberal in their views on dissent. As with any time or group, there are going to be varying opinions and at times the more stupid and sinister of the group will get some power. Because those instances are more sensational (aka Salem Witch Trials), that's what people sadly remember the Puritans for rather than all the relatively progressive ideals they spread like the democratization of religion and universal education.

[@_M4X15]

​@@victoire614 They started the British civil war and killed thousands of people though, look up what they did under Cromwell.

[@michaelparks5669]

No they did not have religious freedom in England.

[@hotmechanic222]

@@michaelparks5669 Learn some history pal!!!

[@illuminatiglobal2860]

This remindes Sects of Islams.

[@tombombadilofficial]

Wait, you all thought this is gonna be a comprehensive history about the Puritans? This is just an ad for their e-book. Got ya good!

[@richpivo772]

They did not welcome the king James Bible with open arms. They already had the Geneva Bible from 1560 which is far superior. King James changed the Bible.

[@andrewericjamesclark6808]

Elaborate how the Geneva is superior.

[@PortmanRd]

One could imagine people at Plymouth docks waving the Mayflower off. "...and don't come back!!"

[@azariahisrael5632]

Thanks for the video. I am a decendant of the Mayflower puritans Richard Warren and John Cook. I also decend from many people who came to the Massachusetts Bay colony after 1630 in the great migration. I also decend from the Swiss anabaptist that were influenced by John Calvin and came to America in the early 1700's via the Netherlands to Lancaster County, Pennsylvania at the invitation of William Penn. It humbling to think about the hardships they faced to find better lives in a land so far away and unknown really. If they hadn't done it I wouldn't be here.

[@dnl3]

Ok but Naund

[@prestonjobe]

This makes me all that much more grateful that I found Orthodox Christianity at the perfect time in my life ☦

[@bountiful14]

why do u think god is real

[@prestonjobe]

@@bountiful14 do you really want to have the discussion? If so, start by telling me why you say He isn’t (if that’s your stance)

[@bountiful14]

@@prestonjobe idk if gods real. i just like to learn why people believe or dont believe in god. and why a particular god?

[@bountiful14]

@@prestonjobe and what would me saying why i dont believe in him accomplish? it won’t prove that gods real just cuz i cant prove not

[@SandfordSmythe]

Convertski?

[@krystalk.h.2241]

The puritans reported didn't bathe and felt being in a state of their own filth and stench brought them closer to 'God'. They also reportedly felt that linens being cleaned and changed was good enough... Not so pure if you ask me.

[@reriuqne0-ny1er]

In fact there was more religious intolerence and perscution in New England during the subsquent centuary than in England. They were in fact religious bigots, Puritans that stayed in England did not suffer persecution.

[@Ilar-en7lg]

Religious bigots why? What do you mean?

[@reriuqne0-ny1er]

@@Ilar-en7lg Do you know nothing about them? Read up on them.

[@Ilar-en7lg]

@@reriuqne0-ny1er I mean what do you mean by bigots. You don't need to be rude.

[@reriuqne0-ny1er]

@@Ilar-en7lg My apologies, there was no intention to be rude but simply made a suggestion,that if you wanted to understand more, reading about the subject would be useful. However here is a very brief explanation: the American myth is that they left Europe to find religious freedom, nothing could be further from the truth. They believed they were God's chosen people and that they were right about everything and everyone else was wrong. They went to America to found a 'pure and perfect society' - 'a city on a hill' and they were ruthless in persecuting anyone who disagreed even about the smallest details of their beliefs. But if you are interested in finding out more, do read about them. Hope this helps.

[@Ilar-en7lg]

@@reriuqne0-ny1er Ah yes yes I know, I've read about that. I think that you can still see some of those traits in some american people or in the society.

[@jubbamuna9274]

My son is in 10 grade his history was this chapter September 10 he got some assignments

[@runfayalife]

In 1543 Martin Luther wrote a book titled, "On the Jews and their Lies."

[@nickcs4488]

Please try to remember ( or find out first ) that the pope was French and based in France at the time of the Reformation, not Rome. It was a power struggle between the traditional enemies of France and Spain vs. England ( and the Dutch/ Germans ).

[@Bijou_248]

Wow ~ I've heard of Puritans but was never interested in History because it's one sided - The dead cannot voice their side to our recorded HISTORY. With Europe and the Catholic Church in division - this explains a lot. People Divided among neighboring people ~ between right / wrong views ... Religious Law started here among Royalty, Popes and commoners?? Many SAINTS and spiritual Ascended masters : Christ, Buddha, Muhammad, Krishna, Quan Yin, Tara, etc, ... If we put them all in one room ... They would not be fighting among each other ... Because their common thread Is Pure Unconditional Compassionate LOVE. ALL religions for the established Brotherhood/ Sisterhood. As human species we are One Human Family... That is, our greatest act is Compassionate Kindness - one to another!! That is TRUE RELIGION, that holds us in UNITY. Christ Consciousness + Buddha Nature = Our Higher Humanity with that said, may all sentient beings be well, happy and joyfully blessed in love. Thank you for letting me share. Great video btw. 🫒🕊️❤️🏡✨🙏🥭🪷🪩 Namo Buddhaya

[@hyperclearphoto6573]

There are a few major theological differences between Anglican and Catholic.

[@King_Cova]

Okay one they were not the successor of the protestant religion they were infact the extremist versions. And yes Zelot would be the word to describe them and it should be derogatory. Also all the puritins never left england, or were discontent, Oliver Cromwell was a puritin for example.

[@corrineagnello4584]

I thought this video was suppose to be on Puritans, not all religions!

[@JohnAllenRoyce]

Wow cool, the most Puritan comment possible. "It's all about MEEEEEE..."

[@spookybabe9042]

​@@JohnAllenRoyce No friend. It has never been about us. It has always been about Christ and his sacrifice for our abomination and sin. He is the hero. Not us.

[@MoivinSulunker]

Not possible to apprehend this topic without knowledge of the machinations of the Venetian party, the zevites, and the priory of sion.

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

Puritans today live on in Homeowners associations.

[@mtheinvincible4156]

[@stepheneberly6357]

😆

[@johannjohann6523]

To show how wrong "Puritans and Calvins" had the scripture is following 1) Predeterminism - is incorrect. One of the most controversial things God did when he created man (and caused 1/3 of the Angels to revolt) was giving man "free will". If predeterminism was the case, then we would NOT have free will. 2) That the ONLY people going to heaven were their denomination and no other believer's, or not. Jesus did not say he died on the cross for only Puritans. He said he died for the sins of ALL mankind. I won't go into the lengthy detail "why" this was necessary by Jesus, and God. Just trust me when I say it has to do with the "subconscious mind and humans facing death", and that is the reason it was for all mankind and not just a few "chosen" ones by the Pope etc. That even people of other religious beliefs can and are forgiven. Having their deeds/actions be the judgement of what happens in the "afterlife" and where ya end up. You can still be a good person, and not be Christian. Especially in ancient times when Jesus had to make the rounds. Where do you think the Eastern concept of Buddhism came from? Jesus. It's not like there were printing presses, and radios back in those days. He had to make the rounds and spread his message to everybody, but in terms their culture would understand. As soon as you think you are the "chosen" one over everybody else, then certainly you are not, and only full of BS. Don't drink the Kool aid of false prophets people! And be warry of the person who sins Monday to Saturday (though Saturday is the actual Sabbath) and pious only on Sunday. peace!

[@Masteranycraft]

There is a so called free will if we are in Christ. The will of God isn’t our own will

[@Historiansaqib]

It's a interesting video ✨

[@ClearOutSamskaras]

*an

[@Carlton_Wilson]

They came here seeking greater religious restrictions than they were allowed at home!

[@VioletDeliriums]

Yes...The way this video depicts it, no big threat to their religious freedom existed, but the Puritans just couldn't accept that their might be Catholics or Catholic-like thought in the air, and they just couldn't handle it. Sounds accurate to this day.

[@williambradford1603]

Puritans sicken me

[@NathanMendel]

8:03 "a reformed, Calvinist movement Arminianism" is inaccurate: Arminianism is in direct opposition to Calvinism on the crucial topic of predestination.

[@rylencason4420]

Calvinism came first. By definition a reform of that would be Arminianism, which is actually the polar opposite of Calvinism. Calvinism itself is a reform away from the Catholic Church, which is a reform from the original Church. A lot of Catholics are Arminian, and a lot of Protesants are Calvinist. The original Church is no longer here, but some think that Calvinists, Purtians, and Protesants are trying to revert back to what the Catholics damaged. Meanwhile the Catholics think they are the true church. Some are "Protesant" but can't swallow predestination. And some just think all of it is dividing the Church too much.

[@bart7309]

Great video, however not complete. The pilgrims, being religious refugees facing prosecution by the church of England fled to Holland (the Netherlands) build a large and well established community there and years later after the city of leiden refused to extradite them on Englands request decided to go to America not for more religious freedom but to only have one/their religion. The original Pilgrims/puritans were British but they left the Netherlands as Dutch.

[@2newty]

Also: the pilgrims, because they were Puritans, believed they were Sinners by birth and had to repent every Day of their life. If they did not or if they repented wrong they believed they faced eternal burning pain in hell.

[@jeffcronin1994]

Anti-Catholic bias in descriptions such as "cleansing" Catholic liturgical practices, etc.

[@charliebaerbock4268]

Boo hoo.

[@ElectricPoliville]

Long was the religious leader onboard the Mayflower.

[@paulwakefield1015]

I’m watching a Native American documentary and am here to try and understand why the puritans were such a holes to the natives .they literally believed that had a moral obligation to take all the land from the natives “in the name of God”

[@Bluemann023]

to be honest all native tribes believed they had a moral obligation to take other tribes land.

[@briannacam.]

Good episode. But there are a few inaccurate information. But good for sharing the basics though.

[@theItalianshamrock]

I still dont understand all the differences between all Christian churches... Catholics, protestants, baptists, etc

[@TheBLGL]

Most important is Catholics follow the Pope, Protestants of any denomination (Baptist, Lutheran, Anglican, etc.) do not. And think of Protestants as protesting the Catholic Church, cause that’s literally where the name comes from, a monk called Martin Luther got upset about them selling indulgences and other corruption, and he wrote 99 complaints about it (called the 99 theses) and nailed them to the door of the church, starting the Protestant Reformation. Oh, and a big thing was not having to learn Latin, translating the Bible into people’s native tongues, so that they can read it for themselves and not rely on a priest to translate. Not sure if Catholics today still have to have services in Latin or not, but I think they can now read the Bible in their native tongues now, since it’s been, I dunno, roughly 500 years. And way before the Protestants came along, there was this thing called the Great Schism…

[@matthoward7645]

Some have touchy feely priests, others let priests marry,some sing gospel,some are cults.... that's the general jist of it

[@smbdcry]

catholic is filthy rich , decorated church, colorful pattern expensive glass church. Protestant revolt that’s corruption, “ask people to pay for their sins”. Believing have faith inside one’s heart is good enough, not corrupted by money, plain and simple church is good, just for people gathering. And baptism? Guess my history knowledge is not enough to cover it

[@josephzsoka874]

Simple, the first christians were the Catholics, then some guy said lets start our own religion in protest against the corrupt christians from Rome... these protesters or protestants then fought a war for 30 years with Rome. They fought back and forth, until the protestants said enough, and left. Then other people said hey, I don't like these protestants let's start our own religion... and protestants have been disagreeing with each since, leading to more fractures and divisions within the protestant faith, which led to many sects and separate faiths within the protestant religion. No difference really...just people trying to start their own religion when disagreements arise amoung them.

[@azazel166]

Orthodox Christian here, one difference between Orthodox and Catholic is the Virgin Mary's passing. Orthodox believe that she died of natural causes. Catholics believe that she ascended to the heavens like Jesus. Another difference is the architecture of churches. Orthodox churches have an eastern style architecture, and on the interior, the walls are covered with Byzantine style art of biblical figures and events. Catholic churches have a gothic style architecture, and the interior tends to be somewhat simpler in terms of art.

[@cheryldeboissiere7824]

Wow, sounds so saintly... so sad all that hunting of American Indians in the Forests of New England skipped your mind... and how about that kidnapping of men, tying them to chairs, while walking around in circles - it had them kicked out of Holland - did you forget that one? How about Nathaniel Hawthorne wrote lovely things like The Scarlet Letter, Young Goodman Brown, etc., shared interesting remark like how one of the clergy whipped the Quaker woman all about the time. Or hey, you missed the Salem Witch Trials, some other fun trials, and the enslavement of Native Americans when not burning out whole Indian villages. But otherwise okay video...

[@King_Cova]

The title was called why the puritins left England, not what did the puritins do after leaving England. That would be for another video, so it's not them leaving anything out, it's you not understanding the title of the video.

[@MixedRaceAndProud1690]

Cheryl - do you feel better for getting that sarcasm off your chest ??

[@cheryldeboissiere7824]

@@King_Cova sorry but it sounds more like you are trying to sell a book to me & skipping the facts guarantees sales. Sad thing is your book will be used as proof that hey, it doesn’t exist because you never mentioned it. Oh, by the way, you mention James I of England aka James VI of Scotland and never mentioned once that he burned down Catholic cathedrals in Ireland. You had no problem saying Blood Mary killed Protestants so hey, bias!

[@matthoward7645]

Who hurt you this bad ? 🤣

[@harryheck3441]

It’s almost like that’s not what the video is about. Silly frog. That being said this video has many inaccuracies.

[@murmursmeglos]

This has a very skewed telling of it (from an 'American Puritan' kind of perspective). England was gradually becoming Protestant from Henry VIII, Mary I tried to put a stop to it but ultimately failed, hence why Catholics tried to blow up James I in 1605. The problem wasn't that the Church of England was oppressive to Puritans, it's that Puritans were so extreme and oppressive towards any other group. Puritans were literally incharge of England between 1649 to 1660 under Oliver Cromwell, they removed all fun and celebration, including drinking, sports, Christmas, theatre. People couldn't wait to be rid of it and the Puritan cause kind of died out. The Church of England kept a balance of traditions but in the Protestant name because Catholics had a problem with wanting absolute power and being buddies with the Pope, no Catholic is allowed to sit on the UK throne even today.

[@MrDanielpope75]

Not entirely accurate but good enough

[@TheWay-u1n]

they stole the popes silver key in avenging odin

[@elperrodelautumo7511]

Because England was too progressive for puritans to act self righteous to their people. And so the new world was their opportunity to spread their beliefs.

[@williambradford1603]

Religion causes nothing but misery .

[@LukeFidler-xr1vi]

So what’s your plan!?

[@georgeschlaline6057]

John May 1602-1698 was a spiritual man His wife Alice May 1608-1701 wasn't a good Christian

[@keepitclean1237]

Im so american i have the blood of the enslaved and slaves according to the media i should be mad at myself 😂

[@Calvinje88]

colonizers colonizing colonizers.

[@carolinb.492]

Who the fuck is John Calvin. The man was French and had a French and Latin name we went by. Where the hell did the English speaking world get "John".

[@jeskvell3254]

eugh christians 🙄

[@Fatty_de_boomba]

The church of england is fake???

[@Syed_12]

( Do Christians And Jews and "OTHER" non-Muslims go to Heaven? ) Quran 2:62 '' Those who believe (in the Quran) and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures) and the Christians and the Sabians->ANYAllah< Is The Protector Of Monasteries, Churches, Synagogues And The Mosques ) Quran 22:40 [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, " Our Lord is God " And were it not that God checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of God is much mentioned. And God will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, God is Powerful and Exalted in Might. Note: Why did Allah protected Churches and Synagogues if they worship false Allah ? ( Why Are There So Many Different Religions In The World ? ) Quran 5 48 ''...... If God wanted He could have made all of you a single nation.( ie single religion ) But He willed otherwise in order to test you in what He has given you (ie Scriptures) therefore try to excel one another in good deeds. Ultimately you all shall return to God then He will show you the truth of those matters in which you '' >DISPUTE verb < not noun like other religions Islam mean "submission" to God ( The above verse saying is that God will not accept a religion from the >MUSLIM< and the Non-Muslims but total "submission" to God ) Question: How Can Muslim And the Non-Muslim "submit" to the God? Answer: Be kind to other human beings and Do not lie, Do not steal, Do not cheat, Do not hurt others, Do not be prideful and Do the charity work. Note: If you obeyed all the ABOVE Allah-God's moral laws "YOU" submitted to God.( ie Islam mean "submission" to God ) The only people who will enter Paradise those who '' Submitted to God '' ( ie by good deeds ) God does NOT accept your religion of birth but only ''Your Total'' Submission to Him. ( God Allows Interfaith Marriages And Eat Food From the Christian And Jew And Vice Versa ) Quran 5:5 ''This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And [lawful in marriage are] chaste women from among the believers (ie Muslim ) and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless and he in the Hereafter will be among the losers.'' Note: > Only < Islam allows interfaith marriages (>14 hundredsSame God< but They are >ALL Corrupt< more or less, some more than others from their original foundational teaching. The older religion are MORE corrupted than newer religion. Question to Muslim and Christian: Does God / Allah only answer your pray ? And God / Allah does not answer non Muslim / non Christian pray? Did Allah '' Canceled '' all other religions Judaism and Christianity? Quran 5:48 '' And We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture ( ie New and old Testament ) and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. >>>TO EACH OF YOU WE PRESCRIBED A LAW AND A METHODone nation>differ qualified < for to enter Paradise ) On the day of judgement God will ''NOT'' judge humanity bases on Sunni Muslim sect VS Shia Muslim sect ''NOR'' by Muslim VS non-Muslim >but< Doer of Goods VS Doer of Evils. '' YOUR " birth in the Muslim's family is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise. '' YOUR " religion / sect / foot long beard is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise. The > qualification < to enter Paradise is > Faith in God and Good Work

[@cheryldeboissiere7824]

Wow, so what’s the status of Buddhists & Hindus?

[@ChrisPeck-niganma]

I thought that the Pilgrims left the Netherlands where they were treated well because their children were growing up speaking Dutch and they didn't want that.

[@cheryldeboissiere7824]

Nope, they were kicked out of Holland.

[@keithwolfe1942]

Pilgrims are not Puritans. For Pilgrims think of maybe Baptist. Puritans think of maybe calvinist. Simplistic, but hopefully this helps tell the differences.

[@manelab6899]

Pilgrims were kinda excluded by the Dutch

[@michaelparks5669]

the Dutch were tooo liberal

[@glamourgirl-n9b]

Most of the pilgrims were from the Netherlands. They were a colorful bunch a lot bail jumpers, claim jumpers, & back then alcoholics. You couldn’t drink the polluted water in Europe, so everyone drank nothing but beer, wine and spirits all day. Even children, “small beer”, or “little beer.”. Mexico has a similar issue with water drinking.

[@fridge3489]

The Catholic Church wouldn't let Henry divorce, so Henry divorced the Catholic Church! Savage. 🫠