Why Didn't Ireland Fight in WW2?

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@Gravity_History
@Gravity_History 2 жыл бұрын
FULL VIDEO: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5fckHiJbdGWprM CORRECTION: Ireland was not yet formally declared a republic until 1949, but was still operating under a republican constitution.
@brownrice9147
@brownrice9147 2 жыл бұрын
Your pronunciations were pretty good, good job
@richard-fish-monger
@richard-fish-monger 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job fucking up something that you could Google before posting. I suggest doing research next time
@irishvalentine
@irishvalentine Жыл бұрын
nah bro i got this 1922: self governing rights 1937: Bunreacht na hÉireann (modern constitution) is passed declaring it a republic 1949 is not the correct date of declaration and dont dare tell me im wrong because i know my own nation's history than anyone else
@irishvalentine
@irishvalentine Жыл бұрын
also good job on the facts but one crucial thing you shouldve mentioned is how screwed up our economy got during the war
@patm8622
@patm8622 Жыл бұрын
You seriously need to update your information.
@magnumopus1628
@magnumopus1628 2 жыл бұрын
I totally get the sentiment of the Irish of not wanting to join the war alongside the UK, but I have the *upmost respect* for those 70.000 volunteers. 🙏💪
@shonagriffiths8907
@shonagriffiths8907 2 жыл бұрын
​@@kitkat47chrysalis95 De Valera walked into the German Embassy in Dublin and signed a book of condolance for the death of Hitler even as the allies liberated the concentration camps in Eastern Europe and Germany and exposed the horrors there. Meanwhile when the Irish who fought with the allies against the nazis returned home they were discriminated against and not allowed to take up any government or civil service jobs. That is why one of my Irish grandfathers ended up in Scotland after the war. He was a republican but like many others he understood what victory for the fascists would mean for the world and he paid a price for it but to his dying day though he missed Ireland he felt he could never have stayed neutral considering what Hitler was doing in Europe.
@JohnSmith-lp8wt
@JohnSmith-lp8wt 2 жыл бұрын
​@@shonagriffiths8907 . least anyone forget the English did mote then there share of killing civilians around the world during there domination of the world.
@shonagriffiths8907
@shonagriffiths8907 2 жыл бұрын
@@kitkat47chrysalis95 In 1940 at the start of Operation Sea lion (the battle of Britain) a German general called Franz Six was tasked with drawing up the plans for the governance of Britain after the invasion. His plans involved sending death squads to kill Britain's 300,000 Jews. Putting the Duke of Windsor on the throne. Invadìng the Republic of Ireland and making it part of Britain again.Young fit men from both Britain and Ireland would be transported overseas to work in forced labour camps as slaves. (They were already doing that to the Eastern Europeans and the Dutch). Still think we shouldn't of fought?
@bevanfletcher6563
@bevanfletcher6563 2 жыл бұрын
​@@shonagriffiths8907 Thank you, that's about what I was going to say, I'd also add that Ireland harboured Nazi war criminals after war.
@shonagriffiths8907
@shonagriffiths8907 2 жыл бұрын
@@kitkat47chrysalis95 How exactly do you do that? The German High Command had their own agenda. They didn't want peace. This was not a defensive war. It was an expansion ist one. They wanted to remove every Jew from Europe by murdering them. They had started to re institute a European slave class. You can bow the knee to that if you like but Hell will freeze over before we will.
@zackthejuggalo9358
@zackthejuggalo9358 2 жыл бұрын
Those who volunteered and returned home were hated in some cases for fighting for the British
@lasigh3883
@lasigh3883 2 жыл бұрын
Rightly so.
@davidw1634
@davidw1634 2 жыл бұрын
@@lasigh3883 yeah but against the nazis ? You think if England fell Ireland would be safe !?
@lasigh3883
@lasigh3883 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidw1634 Remind me what the UK's close ally, the USSR, did in Poland and then across central and eastern Europe! LOL
@unhhgcrxexhjvuvujchcrzwzwz7956
@unhhgcrxexhjvuvujchcrzwzwz7956 2 жыл бұрын
@@lasigh3883 for sure.
@crumpetgamer
@crumpetgamer 2 жыл бұрын
​@@lasigh3883 u an idiot?
@forlorndream1400
@forlorndream1400 2 жыл бұрын
My father was one of those 70,000 volunteers. He worked his passage to England and enlisted upon arrival in Sept 1939. He had no money, minimal education and barely spoke English. At the end of the war in 1945 dad was a staff sergeant and had fought in North Africa, Italy, Holland, France and Germany. He came through without a scratch on him. By 1947 dad was a WO2 (sergeant major) and had gained all required civilian and military qualifications for his rank and trade. He was also fluent in four languages.
@writerconsidered
@writerconsidered 2 жыл бұрын
barely speaking English? Are you suggesting he was a native Gaelic speaker?
@forlorndream1400
@forlorndream1400 2 жыл бұрын
@@writerconsidered yes. Dad was born and raised in the Dublin slums in 1920, the seventh of seven children. He told me he spoke some English but not much.
@skullduggerysmiles8393
@skullduggerysmiles8393 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed reading about your dad, he sounds like he was a hell of a bloke
@forlorndream1400
@forlorndream1400 2 жыл бұрын
@@skullduggerysmiles8393 thanks for saying that. To me he was the best, he taught me how to be a man. There's a little more to the story if you're interested. When I was born dad was 52, mum was 29. Dad still had the luck and charm of the Irish. Years later when I was seventeen, dad attended my passing out parade as I completed basic training in the British army. He said it was the proudest day of his life. Considering everything dad achieved in his life that was quite something for him to say to me. I've never forgotten that.
@skullduggerysmiles8393
@skullduggerysmiles8393 2 жыл бұрын
@@forlorndream1400 I am interested and thank you for sharing his story with me. Love and peace.
@WillieFungo
@WillieFungo Жыл бұрын
70,000 volunteers would be a national army by todays standards.
@patm8622
@patm8622 Жыл бұрын
160,000 +
@earlbinvico
@earlbinvico 4 ай бұрын
Indeed. The British army, as of January 2024, counts with 75,000 active personnel. And that's one of the strongest armies in the world.
@earlbinvico
@earlbinvico 4 ай бұрын
​@@patm8622?
@patm8622
@patm8622 3 ай бұрын
​@earlbinvico 160,000 men & women with addresses in what is now the Republic served in the British and Commonwealth forces during WW2.
@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess
@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 3 ай бұрын
And many Irish also joined the Wehrmacht as volunteers to fight the enemy 💪
@patm8622
@patm8622 Жыл бұрын
By the way, mi5 said Ireland's best way to support the Allied cause was stay neutral.
@charlesd3a
@charlesd3a Жыл бұрын
An Irish man headed up the M15 for many years
@albaraqahtani
@albaraqahtani Жыл бұрын
@@charlesd3a his name ?
@jc-16.
@jc-16. Жыл бұрын
If someone was bullying and beating you up for years on end, tormenting you, terrorising you ,mentally destroying you and finally you stood up and fought back and stopped them, and then a little while later they came to you and said " I need your help, to stop a a horrible bully, you should help me or your a coward" wouldn't you say " but your my BULLY".. now you might understand ireland in the late 30s early 40s a little better. Peace
@davidshepherd8917
@davidshepherd8917 Жыл бұрын
That’s such a stupid analogy
@jc-16.
@jc-16. Жыл бұрын
@@davidshepherd8917 why?
@davidshepherd8917
@davidshepherd8917 Жыл бұрын
@@jc-16. “You should help me or you’re a coward” isn’t even remotely accurate with history. It was more beneficial for Ireland to remain neutral, even British intelligence said so.
@jc-16.
@jc-16. Жыл бұрын
@@davidshepherd8917 my point wasn't that ireland should have, so I don't understand what you mean.
@Dryhten1801
@Dryhten1801 Жыл бұрын
You know the Germans would've genocided your arses in an event of their victory right? You think we British were bad lol.
@memisemyself
@memisemyself 2 жыл бұрын
A point you left out is that Ireland was almost bankrupt, having had the war of independence, followed by the civil war, followed by the economic war, where the UK blockaded Irish exports for more that six years during the 1930's. The only way Ireland could defend itself, had it declared war on Germany, was to invite the British army and navy in, 17 years after expelling them in a bloody war. That would have lead to a revolution and the Brits, being Brits, were unlikely to leave when the war was over. They had already occupied Ireland for over 750 years at that point.
@benc9802
@benc9802 2 жыл бұрын
‘And the Brits being Brits, were unlikely to leave’. Not true at all, I think you’re forgetting the fact that Britain itself was bankrupt after the war - that’s one of the primary reasons Britain backed out of India and allowed the formation of a Hindu and Muslim state (at the behest of the Hindu and Muslim parties), I think if you believe that Britain would have given up India and kept/occupied the Irish Republic, right when the groundwork for a new and more dangerous global confrontation was brewing then you’re somewhat delusional. Not only that but the British government had very little interest or appetite to get involved in Irish affairs after the war. If you want an example closer to home then India however, you need look no further then a piece of land off of Irelands northwest coast -Iceland. Britain occupied Iceland during the Second World War to stop the Germans occupying it. After the war British forces left the island, however it was diplomatically negotiated that a British and American airbase could remain operational on the island, at great economic benefit to a country that was until then an economic backwater who’s residents lived in mud sod huts and had to eat goats heads. Britain would have only been able to maintain a post war presence in Ireland through a negotiated deal with the Irish government, which would have never happened. ‘And the Brits being Brits, were unlikely to leave’. - it is also ironic to note that you are talking about the period of history when Britain was THE MOST involved in leaving other places then they ever had been. It seems to me that instead of considering the evidence, your stigmatised stereotype is simply informed by a rather unpleasant brand of dogmatic nationalism. That being said, contemporary Irish republicans had reason to fear that considering the 20’s and 30’s but clearly to claim that now would be erroneous.
@jordcarter2359
@jordcarter2359 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, you keep defending that silly argument. We all know which side you stand on, got a brown shirt by chance?
@jonathonhass4178
@jonathonhass4178 2 жыл бұрын
@@benc9802 What a load of 💩. Nice of you to conveniently forget to mention that India wanted you brits out during the war and to punish them for this, Churchill intentionally withheld food from them causing a million to die of starvation. While I in no way condone the atrocities of the nazis, it would’ve served you right if germany had gotten their armies across the channel cause you would’ve gotten a good damn taste of what “The Empire” had been dishing out for centuries, and it would’ve been WELL deserved.
@memisemyself
@memisemyself 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordcarter2359 I'm assuming from your comment that you're British. Therefore, you've been subject to a lifetime of empiralistic propaganda and conditioning. Trying to explain reality to you would take hours of work and pages of script and even then, it's possible that it would be beyond your comprehension. I have shirts of many colours, none of which have the blood of innocent civilians on them. Nor do they have the stain of oppression, massacre, pilaging on them. Of course, being a loyal subject of his "majesty" you wouldn't understand that last comment.
@memisemyself
@memisemyself 2 жыл бұрын
@@benc9802 I understand the UK was near bankrupt and am well aware of how the IMF rescued you three times during the 60's and you've had the biggest bail our in history in the 70's. Weren't you very good to "allow" the setting up of independent states. So generous of you, when you shouldn't have been there before. However, 600 million Indians were on the other side of the world and would have been very difficult to supress. Ireland, with a population of just over 3 million is next door and would be a different prospect. Don't forget, if you ever knew, that Churchill was the man who sent the Black and Tans into Ireland when we voted for independence. The objective was to terrorise the Irish into submission. No family was left untouched by their terror. It was only 17 years previous, memories don't fade that fast. In the first six months of independence, Churchill threatened reinvasion three times. He also oversaw the establishment of the police state in NI, helped secure finance and weapons for it and watched while the anti-Catholic pograms took place. He again threatened invasion in 1939, resisted the second Anglo-Irish Treaty, giving us back our offshore islands and the right to have a navy, among other things. He was a figure of hate in Ireland. Would you expect us to trust him? The last time you lot arrived, in 1169, it took until 1922 to get you out. In spite of it's financial difficulties, your country was willing to continue to occupy other countries, take NI and Kenya as examples and look at the hideous things done there. You only "left" willingly where you thought you had no hope of staying. I know that you feel the need to defend your own country and think that it behaved in a positive way. The UK always acted in it's own selfish interest, as all countries do and if occupying Ireland after the war was deemed in it's selfish interest, that's what it would do. No one knew in 1939/40 what the UK's selfish interest regarding Ireland would be in 1945/46. Wisely, the government here decided not to take a chance. One of the very few correct decisions De Valera made.
@marvwatkins7029
@marvwatkins7029 2 жыл бұрын
Like Spain, Ireland was still recovering from its own war.
@musicfind4020
@musicfind4020 2 жыл бұрын
BS argument every country was still damaged from WW1.
@breaddboy
@breaddboy 2 жыл бұрын
The Irish actually fought on both sides of the Spanish civil war too.
@williamjordan5554
@williamjordan5554 2 жыл бұрын
Spain had it's own fascist government.
@adammacgreagoir4924
@adammacgreagoir4924 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamjordan5554 Spain was not fascist. They were nationalist Catholics who continued economic liberalism. The closest Spain had to a fascist party was the Falange but they were sidelined after becoming part of the national front.
@williamjordan5554
@williamjordan5554 2 жыл бұрын
@@adammacgreagoir4924 Whatever the definition, Spain was a dictatorship that sought to join the Axis powers in 1940 but backed off.
@deadlyjaguar89
@deadlyjaguar89 2 жыл бұрын
Also, we let all soldiers that were with the Allies who were caught in Ireland leave to Northern Ireland but we kept the Germans as prisoners
@joeantrobus2118
@joeantrobus2118 2 жыл бұрын
The Irish government also gave use of the Donegal corridor for British aircraft to fly from Northern Ireland through over Ireland and into the Atlantic.
@musicfind4020
@musicfind4020 2 жыл бұрын
They gave nothing it was used regardless of Irish opinion
@Aegis---
@Aegis--- 2 жыл бұрын
​@@musicfind4020 source?
@joeantrobus2118
@joeantrobus2118 2 жыл бұрын
@@musicfind4020 But the Irish did agree to use of the corridor, they just didn’t want to be drawn into the global conflict. There’s many a example of the Irish military communicating to a downed plane in Ireland to the British military before they even knew. Also examples of American planes being downed and the Irish putting them up, as they waited transfer back to NI.
@_________.
@_________. Жыл бұрын
@@musicfind4020 wow you are just a misinformation machine in these comments
@AngloSupreme
@AngloSupreme Жыл бұрын
UK protect Irish airspace to this day as the Irish don't have the means so moot point really.
@PK-gw2rz
@PK-gw2rz Жыл бұрын
My mother was born there the most beautiful lady both inside and out that ever lived. My dad fought in world war II but of course as an American the second generation Irish descent. I never got to go back to visit but from what I hear from everyone the people are lovely.
@antoniomari2730
@antoniomari2730 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I can confirm, the people are pretty lovely..
@duibhiruimaolmmhauid9039
@duibhiruimaolmmhauid9039 Жыл бұрын
You are most welcome to visit anytime 🙂
@ARetiredPirate
@ARetiredPirate Жыл бұрын
They did have prisons for germans they captured and do have german cemetaries for those captured or washed on the shore and who died in ireland. One of the prisons became a place for german kids to strengthen after the war.
@robertdraper5782
@robertdraper5782 2 жыл бұрын
The Irish intelligence service passed on any information they got on Abwher agents attempting to cross to Britain, they were usually picked up in Liverpool and either turned or hung.
@duanemarshall1889
@duanemarshall1889 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how they played both sides
@veronicadredd22
@veronicadredd22 Жыл бұрын
An Irish librarian Richard Hayse broke German microdot codes that Bletchly park could not break
@duanemarshall1889
@duanemarshall1889 Жыл бұрын
@@veronicadredd22 any many Irish joined military then became terrorists too once left military
@richardcray2919
@richardcray2919 Жыл бұрын
​@@veronicadredd22 his name was hayes
@_blank-_
@_blank-_ Жыл бұрын
@@duanemarshall1889 Both sides? I don't see how their neutrality really benefitted the Germans unlike Switzerland.
@shanecoyle3676
@shanecoyle3676 Жыл бұрын
You pronounced taoiseach perfectly I'm shocked, fantastic. Great short
@nixd0rf356
@nixd0rf356 Жыл бұрын
I noticed that too!
@seosamh.forbes
@seosamh.forbes Жыл бұрын
I thought it was pronounced Tee-shay. That's how that one Sinn Fein deputy said it when he got in that fight with Leo, and Leo told him "it doesn't take long for your balaclava to slip."
@blinktwice4541
@blinktwice4541 Жыл бұрын
​@@nixd0rf356 it's actually pronounced more like tee-shuck more than tee-shock but yeah he did a very good job.
@blinktwice4541
@blinktwice4541 Жыл бұрын
it's actually pronounced more like tee-shuck more than tee-shock but yeah he did a very good job.
@seosamh.forbes
@seosamh.forbes Жыл бұрын
@@blinktwice4541 that makes sense because "shuck" spoken fastly could be mistaken for "shay"
@renatacantore3684
@renatacantore3684 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this important piece of Irish history 🌹🇮🇪♥️🕊
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 2 жыл бұрын
70,000 represents about 0.5% of the Irish population, that's a higher proportion than of some combatant countries and the largest proportion of volunteers out if the population of any country.
@LeonVEKH
@LeonVEKH Жыл бұрын
It was 2.5% of the population at that time, so a larger proportion than a lot of other countries.
@Napoleonvanderbilt
@Napoleonvanderbilt 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about Eamon De Valera, he was actually born in the United States.
@odin2130
@odin2130 2 жыл бұрын
And he was a traitor
@charles5553
@charles5553 Жыл бұрын
​@@odin2130yep and the reason why Michael Collins was killed
@Napoleonvanderbilt
@Napoleonvanderbilt Жыл бұрын
@hughjaanus6680 But Boris was born an English Citizen, De Valera was full on American, and moved to Ireland later in life.
@shredder9536
@shredder9536 Жыл бұрын
​@@charles5553 Michael Collins was the traitor who got himself killed. He even admitted his actions deserved the death penalty "I've signed my own death warrant".
@charles5553
@charles5553 Жыл бұрын
@@shredder9536 it was De Valera who gave him and Griffiths full power to sign the treaty would you rather him not sign it and the war continue after all Collins was known as the Man on the Bike the British can never catch but since they had a photo of him he couldn't hide his identity anymore cause of De Valera
@daleslover2771
@daleslover2771 2 жыл бұрын
"Had a strong dislike for the United Kingdom," Wow... never heard it said like that.
@w_6880
@w_6880 Жыл бұрын
Who’d have thunk a nation of oppressors would be disliked by the oppressed.
@seosamh.forbes
@seosamh.forbes Жыл бұрын
I originally thought the version of the song Go On Home British Soldiers where they constantly drop the f bomb laid it out best, but clearly that's cause I hadn't seen this guy's take on it.
@eugenemurray2940
@eugenemurray2940 2 жыл бұрын
It was a weather report from the West of Ireland that was the 'go ahead' for D-Day.
@musicfind4020
@musicfind4020 2 жыл бұрын
Wow amazing go the Irish , meanwhile the rest of the free world actually committed everything they had to the war and defeating the dictatorships, blood materials and money vs a mingling weather forecast 😂
@eugenemurray2940
@eugenemurray2940 2 жыл бұрын
@@musicfind4020 Well a fair point... But please also account for the food Ireland exported to UK... And thus bombed as a result.. Dublin being an 'Open' city and quote undefended by what I have heard... Also repatriation of downed Allied pilots as the War progressed But fair point - ish
@AnotherHistorianWargamer
@AnotherHistorianWargamer 2 жыл бұрын
​@@musicfind4020 fighting to make sure the Reds got power in Eastern Europe is hardly defeating dictatorships. WWII wasn't about freedom, it it was it wouldn't have ended on 45.
@_________.
@_________. Жыл бұрын
@@musicfind4020 ireland did so much more than they had to for a genocidal country that terrorized them for centuries. They did so much more than they had to.
@croisaor2308
@croisaor2308 Жыл бұрын
@@musicfind4020 The rest of the "free" world were attacked and had their colonial possessions to defend. Why would Ireland get involved in a conflict between colonial Empires after just being free of one ourselves?
@schusterlehrling
@schusterlehrling Жыл бұрын
As an irish friend of mine put it "Having the choice between our suppressor for hundreds of years or the most evil empire in history, we had no choice but to refuse to choose."
@matiasdiaz8913
@matiasdiaz8913 Жыл бұрын
cool,but the evil empire of history and the suppresor are the same
@60iger29
@60iger29 Жыл бұрын
One could argue that the Mongolians, Imperial Japan or the early Soviet Union were even worse, when it comes down to war crimes of the army, but the Holocaust was just an oustanding inhuman almost daemonic nightmare which maybe is the worst ever done by humans to humans.
@ericsandrade
@ericsandrade Жыл бұрын
Great choice to be honest
@ericsandrade
@ericsandrade Жыл бұрын
@@matiasdiaz8913 not really. Germany did nothing to the Irish
@xander1O1O7
@xander1O1O7 Жыл бұрын
​@@ericsandrade because they were not given the chance to :/
@MeTube3
@MeTube3 Жыл бұрын
What many people don’t get is that Britain has been massively immigrated from Ireland right through the 19th and 20th centuries. People in Britain who don’t have at least some Irish in their family background are very rare. The Irish Sea crossing routes are extremely busy. If you see history as a soap opera from a distance then you won’t understand how connected these little Islands are at the level of normal people.
@JJaqn05
@JJaqn05 Жыл бұрын
I think that goes for the Irish as well
@paddybrennan7093
@paddybrennan7093 2 жыл бұрын
We called WW2 the emergency and the saying was at the time because of the way we leaned towards the Allies that we never figured out who we were neutral against
@mrfixitusa6165
@mrfixitusa6165 2 жыл бұрын
That's hilarious, and definitely the most Irish thing I've heard all day. 😝
@corinnem.239
@corinnem.239 2 жыл бұрын
You were neutral so you could recover after the civil war. It was not enough time for Ireland to have recover. This has not been held against Ireland as far as I know by either side. It allowed for your recovery and after what Ireland went through with the UK for independence, no one misunderstood why Ireland it stayed neutral. Best thing for you. Much respect for the volunteers, but also for the Republic government. America could & did give our support because we were strong enough and enjoyed a better condition without having British problems. The US has always wanted Ireland to recover prosperity AND peace with justice. Most of us have Irish ancestors. It was always our dream to bring peace & prosperity with justice by playing a supporting role. We finally got to send our best problem solver to help, George Mitchell. It was a rare pleasure to live to see the Good Friday Accords signed. Many generations of Irish -Americans longed for that dreams. North or South, we knew Ireland needed more time to recovery after finally getting their freedom.
@obamaisgod474
@obamaisgod474 Жыл бұрын
The town i live in has the Erne Corridor, which was a flightpath up the River Erne tjat allowed British planes out into the Atlantic to patrol. If they didnt use that they wouldve had to have flown all the way around the top of northern ireland to get out
@jamesalexander9847
@jamesalexander9847 Жыл бұрын
I go to Achill Island County Mayo every few years which is the most westerly part of Ireland. At the end of the island near Keem Bay there are the ruins of watch buildings that Irish people were stationed during WW2 and their job was to watch for German sea activity
@genghisthegreat2034
@genghisthegreat2034 Жыл бұрын
.....the structures above Acorrymore were to watch for all marine activity by both Axis and Allied powers
@jamesalexander9847
@jamesalexander9847 Жыл бұрын
@@genghisthegreat2034 Makes sense lmao. Thanks for the info!
@Adaman368
@Adaman368 Жыл бұрын
​@@genghisthegreat2034 Despite declaring its neutrality- Ireland had already given all allied shipping freedom to use its territorial waters. It also passed on intelligence gathered to the Allies. The fact was they simply couldn't trust the British having had to fight them for their own independence less than 20 years earlier.
@patm8622
@patm8622 Жыл бұрын
@@genghisthegreat2034 and issue the reports to the Allies only
@patm8622
@patm8622 Жыл бұрын
@Adam there was a lot of trust between the two militaries, not the old bigots who had fought the IRA but the intelligence guys and newer, younger officers. What they didn't put up with, and quite rightly, was the likes of Churchill who couldn't be trusted as dar as he could be thrown, as the Poles could tell you.
@jasonmccord4580
@jasonmccord4580 2 жыл бұрын
During that war there were a few countries that remained neutral completely and they did more good humanity wise doing that. Absolutely respect and bow to those 70,000 lads that told their families they were taking a walk and they'd be back for supper one day.
@uowebfoot
@uowebfoot 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know they did more good because they stayed neutral?
@jasonmccord4580
@jasonmccord4580 2 жыл бұрын
@@uowebfoot the fact they became safe havens for people to go, no matter who they were allowing Jews and people caught in the middle of war to come in to their countries. They had shelters and programs as best as they could to help feed and clothe them. Put them to work for a paying wage if they could as well. There was no war going through there. Switzerland New Zealand many other countries that have mainly stayed neutral even till this day. I love history and I'm kind of broad stroking things but I hope that helps explain just a little more.
@stevenseagull3867
@stevenseagull3867 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonmccord4580 dude Switzerland robbed the jews in ww2 and helped the nazys by protecting theyr money. Switzerland had to pay about 2 billion in lawsuit they lost for stealing jewish money
@hornerfarah2282
@hornerfarah2282 2 жыл бұрын
​@@uowebfoot allies in general weren't better than the nazis. So being neutral means staying away from two bad people fighting each other.
@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935
@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 2 жыл бұрын
America was neutral, Nazi Germany declared war on the U.S.
@NoSuffix
@NoSuffix 2 жыл бұрын
Neutrality was a smart choice then.
@nessunday
@nessunday Жыл бұрын
Hardly, if more countries had stayed neutral the nazis would have won
@petesmart1983
@petesmart1983 Жыл бұрын
Not really if Britain lost Ireland would have to support the Nazis, even with neutrality Sweden and Switzerland still bowed,traded and basically supported Nazi Germany without fighting, Ireland would of become another Nazi country
@watlon4164
@watlon4164 Жыл бұрын
Growing up in Ireland my grandparents I remember told me about some German planes returning from a bomb raid on England and dropped some bombs on the capital Dublin by mistake , where my grandparents lived .Not sure how many life's were lost , however the German military ended up apologized for there mess .
@Hiiii974
@Hiiii974 Жыл бұрын
Yes but many MANY English despised the Irish during the Great Irish Famine
@Sam_Green____4114
@Sam_Green____4114 2 жыл бұрын
However many lrish served in British and allied forces during WW2 and the Republic of lreland assisted British forces in the North and gave aid when needed . Covertly of course !
@Sam_Green____4114
@Sam_Green____4114 Жыл бұрын
@Venture Forth Didn't !! Lies !
@josebruce24
@josebruce24 Жыл бұрын
My respect to the 70,000 Irishmen ❤️❤️
@abdulrahmanryan366
@abdulrahmanryan366 Жыл бұрын
70,000 lost souls! Couldn't wait to jump ship to the 'real' enemy!
@josebruce24
@josebruce24 Жыл бұрын
@@abdulrahmanryan366 what do you mean?
@punishedgloyperstormtroope8098
@punishedgloyperstormtroope8098 11 ай бұрын
They were traitors and war criminals
@L-mo
@L-mo Жыл бұрын
My Irish grandfather fought in WW1 for the British Army (Ireland was under Britain at that time). He would have done it again but was too old during WW2, but his wife, my grandmother, was an air raid warden.
@curtyct5389
@curtyct5389 Жыл бұрын
My grandmother grew up in County Mayo and has a very young girl she was gifted a piglet for her birthday and being a little girl and not understanding the situation only hearing the name Hitler so often she named her piglet Hitler and he never lived that down I'm not kidding she's dead I'm talking about it now RIP💚Eileen "Nell" Hogan🇮🇪🍀🐖
@brianmccarthy5557
@brianmccarthy5557 Жыл бұрын
Now that is a very Irish story!!
@thereformedreader
@thereformedreader Жыл бұрын
The volunteers are absolute heroes. To join the UK forces from Republic of Ireland at this time was anathema.
@badguy1481
@badguy1481 2 жыл бұрын
I was born in a mixed race family: Irish and Swedish. The standing joke, that would come out during family get-togethers,about participants in WWII: "The peace loving Irish and the cowardly Swedes
@greywolf7422
@greywolf7422 2 жыл бұрын
The sweeds weren't cowards tho, they decided it was no longer worth getting involved in European conflict after severe setbacks in the great northern war, and political breakdowns after the kalmar union collapsed, they also had to face the fact that France, a great power was steamrolled, they probably asked themselves what the hell they could do, they wouldn't have stood a chance.
@shonagriffiths8907
@shonagriffiths8907 2 жыл бұрын
​​@@greywolf7422 Well they could have refrained from selling Swedish iron and steel to Germany. That would have helped.
@greywolf7422
@greywolf7422 2 жыл бұрын
@@shonagriffiths8907 They were a food importer, with Germany controlling the danish straits in 1941-44, did you expect the swedes to jeopardize their food supply, all while they held a militarily inferior position, if they tried to vice the germans nothing would have stopped the germans from entering Stockholm, and would you have prefered the swedish jews getting slaughtered as well?
@ekklesiast
@ekklesiast 2 жыл бұрын
"mixed race" I didn't know Irish and Swedes were different race
@badguy1481
@badguy1481 2 жыл бұрын
@@ekklesiast As Foghorn Leghorn would have said: "I say....That was a JOKE son. You're supposed to LAUGH!"
@normbograham3
@normbograham3 25 күн бұрын
Well, Ireland wanted home rule, and even 200+ women organized and collected money for the cause (most coming from the USA). Germany sent a ship of weapons. Then while the Irish went to fight for England for WWI, England bombed Dublin for the Easter Uprising. England built their own reputation.
@bluecollar58
@bluecollar58 Жыл бұрын
The majority of names on any American war Memorial are Irish.
@stevethomas5849
@stevethomas5849 2 жыл бұрын
Ireland wasn't a Republic during the 2nd World War. It was at the time a self governing Dominon within the British Empire. It wasn't until 1949 did it become a Republic 4 years after the end of WW2.
@lasigh3883
@lasigh3883 2 жыл бұрын
Ireland declared itself a republic in 1948. LOL
@nigelraporam6917
@nigelraporam6917 2 жыл бұрын
​@@lasigh3883 officially in 49
@lasigh3883
@lasigh3883 2 жыл бұрын
@@nigelraporam6917 Nope. Officially in **1948.** LOL.
@nigelraporam6917
@nigelraporam6917 2 жыл бұрын
@La Sigh the republic of ireland act was signed into law in 1948 but didn't come to effect until 1949
@doylersafl8728
@doylersafl8728 Жыл бұрын
​@@lasigh3883another L for you LOL
@senatorstevenarmstrong2807
@senatorstevenarmstrong2807 2 жыл бұрын
The UK had a plan to invade Ireland and to "secure the isles" if everything went to shit. Not sure what would happen after that, maybe it would be occupied, or maybe we would have tried to integrate it
@timg1246
@timg1246 2 жыл бұрын
The British would only have intervened in southern Ireland if the Germans had tried to launch a military intervention there. That, in turn, was highly un-likely because the Germans had poor naval abilities when compared to the British. The Royal Navy would have committed slaughter on any German force that tried such a thing. So it was a contingency plan and never likely to be carried out. Planners have to take any and all possibilities in to account, or they are not doing their job.
@lasigh3883
@lasigh3883 2 жыл бұрын
@@timg1246 'southern Ireland' ! LOL
@timg1246
@timg1246 2 жыл бұрын
@@lasigh3883 Southern Ireland is a perfectly accurate Geographic designation. LOL.
@lasigh3883
@lasigh3883 2 жыл бұрын
@@timg1246Is Donegal is in 'southern Ireland'? Dur...
@lasigh3883
@lasigh3883 2 жыл бұрын
@@timg1246 No more word on your claim that the Ireland was known as The Irish Free State during this period and only had 'home rule'?! What a classic! LOL
@loadslmgwithreligiousintent
@loadslmgwithreligiousintent Жыл бұрын
We also allowed Allied Planes to fly over Donegal so they could access the Atlantic Ocean easier. We also sent a Fire Brigade into Northern Ireland when it was bombed.
@samuelhughes3779
@samuelhughes3779 Жыл бұрын
The funniest thing is if Ireland were to be invaded now they would have to call on Britain for help.
@seankavanagh7625
@seankavanagh7625 Жыл бұрын
Seeing as the odds would be that it would be the Tans invading that doesn't seem in any way likely.
@samuelhughes3779
@samuelhughes3779 Жыл бұрын
@@seankavanagh7625 are u a member of the IRA ?
@seankavanagh7625
@seankavanagh7625 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelhughes3779 Are you a member of the Paras?
@emcc8598
@emcc8598 Жыл бұрын
Why in the name of dodge would we call those cnuts? America is next door to Ireland. Not britland.
@samuelhughes3779
@samuelhughes3779 Жыл бұрын
@@emcc8598 🤣🤣 yeah sure 👍
@isaholbrook9192
@isaholbrook9192 2 жыл бұрын
And those soldiers that served in the war with the UK were treated like shit after the war
@Adaman368
@Adaman368 Жыл бұрын
Well the fact is they were shafted by the British after fighting for them in WW2. Odd that.
@seankavanagh7625
@seankavanagh7625 Жыл бұрын
Deserters who fight for your enemy don't tend to get praised no matter where they are from.
@Korinthian-do7sx
@Korinthian-do7sx 2 ай бұрын
rightfully so, traitors.
@alexanderbruwer9363
@alexanderbruwer9363 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah British aggression pre WWI and WWII didn't win them too many favors when it came to the great wars. South Africans were still reeling from the brutality of the Second Anglo-Boer War and were dragged into the world wars, there were quite a few voices who weren't all to happy about having to fight for the British
@julianmcmillan2867
@julianmcmillan2867 2 жыл бұрын
South Africa also had a very cozy ideological relationship with Germany at this time. I still have a grandfather, who fought in the war, who believes in the Afrikaner version of the volkland and who believes that apartheid should never have happened, and that instead, our ancestors should've done what Hitler tried to do because nobody would care if the Afrikaners genocided black people since it was Hitler invading other European countries that drew the allies into the war. My opinion? The people I grew up with still visit the Voortrekker monument and sing De La Rey in rememberance of the Boer war. I don't, because that monument and and that song also represented the horrors that were visited upon the parents of some of the black friends I grew up with and still keep in touch with. Point is, if things had gone a little differently, I can easily see a world where SA would either have remained purely neutral and at worst would have rhetorically supported Germany. But we couldn't because the commonwealth and the U.S was at war with Germany. My father cannot fathom why I am not all that proud to call myself a boer.
@jixuscrixus1967
@jixuscrixus1967 Жыл бұрын
@@antseanbheanbocht4993 and he stayed in the capsule…
@4Dwooorld
@4Dwooorld Жыл бұрын
Patrick Lancaster is a journalist from the US. Patric is a U.S. Navy intelligence veteran and self-styled youtuber and journalist. He has been living in the Donbas for eight years and covering the events taking place there.
@ShermPWilliams
@ShermPWilliams 5 ай бұрын
Probably because they were too busy being oppressed by the benevolent British empire
@daire2437
@daire2437 2 жыл бұрын
Great video but you left out a few key facts. Eire also let american planes land and refuel and we were bombed by Germany for this. Eire was not neutral because it helped the allies
@ethelmini
@ethelmini 2 жыл бұрын
...after 1942. I think everyone could see how it was going to end by then.
@lasigh3883
@lasigh3883 2 жыл бұрын
'Eire' ?! LOL
@bruhdealer5208
@bruhdealer5208 2 жыл бұрын
@@lasigh3883 what?
@lasigh3883
@lasigh3883 2 жыл бұрын
@@bruhdealer5208 I said: 'Eire'. LOL
@daire2437
@daire2437 2 жыл бұрын
@@bruhdealer5208 Don't mind him, La sigh is simple. Just some troll incapable of articulating a response
@glassychap1141
@glassychap1141 2 жыл бұрын
I am rather a bit perplexed why people saying to was wrong for Ireland to stay neutral in this conflict. With historical context in mind, it makes perfect sense. I don’t think the Irish would have wanted to fight for the British, barring the 70,000. Furthermore, the condolences offer by the Irish government to Germany after Hitler’s death is not that weird at least to me. It was just diplomatic protocol than anything else.
@garyunbeliever3001
@garyunbeliever3001 Жыл бұрын
Thousands and thoudands of irish men fought and died in ww2.. and even if the country remained neutral we play crucial roles..
@_blank-_
@_blank-_ Жыл бұрын
I don't know why Ireland is getting trashed on in the comments.
@Adaman368
@Adaman368 Жыл бұрын
Its a small sub section of extreme loyalist fruit cakes who like to denigrate Ireland any chance they get. Sad to say their lives seem to mainly based on hatred of the people their country brutally invaded and colonised. Then they act shocked that the Irish fought back to gain their independence. 🤷🏽‍♂️
@deanslater5584
@deanslater5584 Жыл бұрын
Because it was a degree of being nazis themselves
@racheltaylor6578
@racheltaylor6578 Жыл бұрын
Respect to all the Irish men who went to fight the Nazis.
@patm8622
@patm8622 Жыл бұрын
Don't ignore the men and women who built the roads, manned the hospitals, went into the factories and farms.
@CHIBBZ-54
@CHIBBZ-54 Жыл бұрын
​​@@patm8622 Exactly, 3 of my Grand Uncles help build battle ships in Liverpool and Southampton and my grand aunt was at Ford Dagenham making Vehicle Bateries for Armoured Vehicles, Tanks , Jeeps etc.
@Mshi-
@Mshi- Жыл бұрын
They died for Judaism and the enslavement of Europe by Bolshevism
@Korinthian-do7sx
@Korinthian-do7sx 2 ай бұрын
but fought in the british army. traitors of Ireland.
@ralphdougherty1844
@ralphdougherty1844 2 жыл бұрын
Heavy losses in WWI also played a part in this. The Irish didn’t want to give their sons to the UK for another slaughter like 1914-1918 where 35,000 of the 200,000 who served died.
@michaelcostello1053
@michaelcostello1053 2 жыл бұрын
And mostly treated like guinea pigs
@BRITISHFURY_1664
@BRITISHFURY_1664 2 жыл бұрын
WW1 was a slaughter for everyone. Us in Britain suffered many casualties and most of our towns cities lost over half of its population. WW1 was nothing but a bloodbath a pointless bloodbath. Cant believe people died because idiots couldn't solve their issues. And they were related too.
@corinnem.239
@corinnem.239 2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough.
@isbee56
@isbee56 2 жыл бұрын
​@@michaelcostello1053 don't act like that's unique for poor people in the first world war. The English didn't care about the English poors either.
@duanemarshall1889
@duanemarshall1889 2 жыл бұрын
@@isbee56 wow really have no respect for those who gave everything so that others can have the life they have now
@kommanderc7208
@kommanderc7208 Жыл бұрын
One of my great grandfathers was a guard for a prison camp that held shot-down airmen. The British were kept separate from the germans, and they let the british rejoin the RAF if they wanted to.
@rubiepie
@rubiepie 2 жыл бұрын
And then after the war. Britain Criticized Ireland for being neutral ,_, Yeah...
@shooterblaze1
@shooterblaze1 Жыл бұрын
Rightly so…
@samybreitler176
@samybreitler176 2 жыл бұрын
Ireland being almost bankrupt having been stolen a significant part of one of the 4 main provinces by their former overlords. Having a wrecked industry and destroyed houses and still 70.000 Irish men volunteered to defend democracy in mainland Europe. True Chads
@Hyype
@Hyype Жыл бұрын
True chads ? They were neutral mate, and any volunteers that left were judicially punished, mostly jailed on return, put in some more research, you’ll understand areas of the topic a lot than a youtube shorts leads you to.
@samybreitler176
@samybreitler176 Жыл бұрын
@@Hyype so 70.000 Irish fought for your and my freedom and for democracy in Europe even though they knew they’d be punished or die in a foreign land. How about you show some respect for these heroes. People like you give me second hand embarrassment.
@samybreitler176
@samybreitler176 Жыл бұрын
@@Hyype and these volunteers did all that even tho your forefathers carried out a genocide for centuries against the Irish people their culture and their language. That’s the equivalent of a Ukrainian fighting for the Russian empires army in WW1 or a Native American fighting for the US Army against Mexico.
@Hyype
@Hyype Жыл бұрын
@@samybreitler176 Yes and that was very brave and virtuous of the Irish volunteers, if you’d read into what I said a bit more you’d find I actually shown an opposition to aspects of the Irish government at the time, seeing as you referred to Ireland as the main body in your original comment, yet these were the ones who punished and alienated these brilliant volunteers, you show a clear respect for these volunteers, so how can you not despise the way the Irish government treated them?
@JA-rk9cg
@JA-rk9cg Жыл бұрын
@@Hyype The government should’ve been ashamed of how they treated them. I can assure you though that the vast majority of the people here did support them. It was definitely a much stronger hatred in WWI as it was during the rising, but they were still seen as brave by many and we all know the true cause. I’m just glad that they were able to do their bit. Nowadays we have their medals displayed.
@christianfreedom-seeker934
@christianfreedom-seeker934 2 жыл бұрын
My cousin still looks debonair after all these years!
@TheJuggernoob1
@TheJuggernoob1 11 ай бұрын
Well played, they kept their country safe.
@seagullshen
@seagullshen 2 жыл бұрын
"Teeshock"
@jixuscrixus
@jixuscrixus 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly the way numb nuts Liz Truss pronounced it.
@dkellybeats
@dkellybeats Жыл бұрын
Taoiseach - Translation “chief” Essentially our Prime Minister
@seagullshen
@seagullshen Жыл бұрын
@@dkellybeats REALLY 😱😱
@seagullshen
@seagullshen Жыл бұрын
@@fear8825 eh
@microwavefish
@microwavefish Жыл бұрын
Another thing to note is that Allied aircraft were allowed to fly over Donegal (the only county in Ulster not part of Northern Ireland) and while German airmen were captured by security forces the allies were allowed to “escape” to the North. As well as that Irish fire brigades assisted in dealing with the Belfast Blitz.
@conorduignan7855
@conorduignan7855 Жыл бұрын
That's not true, Cavan and Monaghan are also counties in Ulster that are part of the Republic of Ireland. Ulster has 9 counties, 6 in northern Ireland and 3 in the Republic.
@conlaiarla
@conlaiarla Жыл бұрын
​@@conorduignan7855 Spot on .
@theninjalion2811
@theninjalion2811 Жыл бұрын
Allied airmen weren't allied to escape, they were sent to the North by bus.
@slicktrick9640
@slicktrick9640 2 жыл бұрын
Fair play to that 70000
@imstomasbs
@imstomasbs Ай бұрын
Taoiseach ❌ Tee Shock ✅
@Alex.af.Nordheim
@Alex.af.Nordheim 2 жыл бұрын
Why is "letting German nationals continue to live in Ireland without incidents" a sin💀
@iceman6489
@iceman6489 Жыл бұрын
Comparing it to the USA’s treatment of Americans with Japanese ancestry and nationals
@iceman6489
@iceman6489 Жыл бұрын
Comparing it to the USA’s treatment of Americans with Japanese ancestry and Japanese nationals during the war
@hybrit9881
@hybrit9881 Жыл бұрын
Thats not really a sin, the real problem is how they treated the 70000 veterans after they returned home
@thegatorhator6822
@thegatorhator6822 Жыл бұрын
​@@hybrit9881 what do you mean? They treated them just right.
@hybrit9881
@hybrit9881 Жыл бұрын
@@thegatorhator6822 elaborate
@blackatom4957
@blackatom4957 Жыл бұрын
Respect to Ireland from India.
@swedishbloke
@swedishbloke 2 жыл бұрын
Sweden was pretty similair yet we get bashed at for “helping the Nazis”…
@spoopyboi4775
@spoopyboi4775 Жыл бұрын
Smooth brains can't comprehend the fact that neutrality means neutrality no matter who the "good" or "bad" guy is.
@NMahon
@NMahon Жыл бұрын
Yeah whatever Sweden offered the Nazis they offered the Soviets. Stuck between a rock and a hard place not wanting to get dragged either way. I think Sweden handled it well
@swedishbloke
@swedishbloke Жыл бұрын
@@NMahon we did the same thing to the Allies. We were the ones who discovered the Bismarck
@satyakisil9711
@satyakisil9711 Жыл бұрын
@@swedishbloke Swedes deserve to be bashed since they have the biggest holier-than-thou mindset in the continent. Switzerland was more hostile to the allies and escaped with no accusations, since for them performance is more important than perception.
@swedishbloke
@swedishbloke Жыл бұрын
@@satyakisil9711 holier than thou? And we do not deserve getting bashed? Bash the Americans for their millions of war crimes!
@abraxas9340
@abraxas9340 3 ай бұрын
Simultaneously Zogged and Not Zogged.
@ohno2112
@ohno2112 2 жыл бұрын
My father fought for Irish independence & fought with the Americans during WWII. Like countless other Irish men & Women
@interabang
@interabang Жыл бұрын
Ohno How did he fight for the Americans ?
@karendwyer8499
@karendwyer8499 Жыл бұрын
@@interabang He left Ireland because of no work & he was a Republican, left for America, got drafted in 1942 into the 12th Armored division.
@seankavanagh7625
@seankavanagh7625 Жыл бұрын
Fighting for the US was the correct decision.
@dublinsfaircity
@dublinsfaircity 2 жыл бұрын
I'm proud of my Irish brothers who helped defeat the Nazis in WW2.
@ErrY2k
@ErrY2k 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not
@Norwoodg00ner
@Norwoodg00ner 2 жыл бұрын
@morganwheeleryear1123 most of Britain didn’t want war. It was the Jewish ruling class that did. Same in America
@algiz21
@algiz21 2 жыл бұрын
Irish traitors who helped bring the downfall of Europe. You must be so happy that your classrooms are all non Irish and that gaelic is almost extinct
@what-uy7go
@what-uy7go 2 жыл бұрын
@@Norwoodg00ner are you a parrot for hitler lol? you're just copying what he said
@liamcassidy5992
@liamcassidy5992 2 жыл бұрын
@@Norwoodg00ner actually the Celts were below the Germanic people in Nazi Rassenkunde
@timo191
@timo191 2 ай бұрын
The Brits also said they would have to "fortify" Ireland if they joined the Allies. I can't blame them for saying no.
@safespacebear
@safespacebear Жыл бұрын
70k! Awesome
@felicitatumfortunae
@felicitatumfortunae 2 жыл бұрын
It was because the home rule party, the majority party in Ireland was promised freedom in return for fighting in WW1. They launched a rallying cry. A million men went, most didn't come home. After the war the UK said "we lied". The home rule party ended immediately and the IRB/IRA began.
@felicitatumfortunae
@felicitatumfortunae 2 жыл бұрын
So you can imagine that they said no to all of the crazy promises that the UK gave them. Fool me once. The men who went to WW2 anyway had no jobs waiting for them when they got back and they received no accolades or medals. Ireland got bombed a few times as a warning for helping put out fires in Belfast and supplying food. The germans didn't find out that all prisoners were put into their internment camps but allies were secretly let out of the back if the allied camp and put on trains up to Northern Ireland. Also the weather reports were secretly given too. They were all taken by a woman who signed up to the postal service and had no idea what world changing events she was affecting.
@aw3046
@aw3046 2 жыл бұрын
That’s not at all what happened. The UK was actually going to give Ireland independence, they never lied. They had even drafted documents. But when the revolution began, the British decided not to until they had put it down. Of course, they never did.
@felicitatumfortunae
@felicitatumfortunae Жыл бұрын
@@aw3046 If you mean the 1916 rising, that was before the end of WW2 and wildly unpopular in Ireland. They drew up the documentation to show Robert Redmond. A deal was made and they reneged. The excuse that you have given is ridiculous in that the IRA were campaigning for Ireland to be a separate state as a clear mandate had been given in elections. If they had simply signed the document then there would have been no further issue. The same issue is happening in Scotland but the mandate isn't as clear and the UK is less powerful.
@brin1034
@brin1034 Жыл бұрын
@@aw3046 😂😂 you realise it’s been confirmed that Churchill planned to take over Ireland again during WW2 right? The British had never any intention of letting Ireland go, so Ireland made them leave and won.
@robertseavor4304
@robertseavor4304 Жыл бұрын
​@@brin1034 It's just as well we didn't order all the Irish in Britain to go home. They would have rioted, so besotted of Ireland were they.
@munsterfloyd
@munsterfloyd Жыл бұрын
70,000 volunteers from a total population of 3 million is a substantial number. There were thousands of Irish based in Britain who also signed up so the total number was very likely much more, not to mention the Irish in the US army and navy along with the Irish in Australia and NZ.
@NoNameUwUxX
@NoNameUwUxX Жыл бұрын
Switzerland: Do you want some popcorn? 🍿
@irish7summits
@irish7summits Жыл бұрын
When he says Civil War, he means the War of Independence against the British which ended in 1922. The Civil War that followed was between the two Irish sides of the treaty that gained independence. So any opposition to involvement in WW2 would relate to the War of Independence against the British, moreso than the Civil War. Though either war meant having British army in Ireland was a non starter. Also Ireland was a struggling new state which had emerged post independence into years of economic sanctions by UK which lasted into the 1930s. So war was neither economically or politically viable and relations with UK at that time were toxic at best.
@unhhgcrxexhjvuvujchcrzwzwz7956
@unhhgcrxexhjvuvujchcrzwzwz7956 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I’m concerned we were helping the French and the polish not the British. Helping them was incidental
@unhhgcrxexhjvuvujchcrzwzwz7956
@unhhgcrxexhjvuvujchcrzwzwz7956 Жыл бұрын
@Ernest Tremeer ah yes hitler, who weaponized prostantism and as a tool of the state, totally checks out
@JJaqn05
@JJaqn05 Жыл бұрын
For as far as im concerned they were fighting for all three
@bighag9773
@bighag9773 2 ай бұрын
We weren't neutral. It was a facade. Most of the people never knew, as it was only revealed half a century later. Look at how weather reports, airspace and other such things were treated. We were bombed for sending fire brigades to help during the blitz too. Never got direclty involved with fighting doesnt mean neutral.
@mosspally6995
@mosspally6995 Жыл бұрын
Neutral in public. Allied in reality.
@AldoScotia
@AldoScotia Жыл бұрын
Really ?- when the president and prime minister send condolences on the death of Hitler? Shameful act.
@mosspally6995
@mosspally6995 Жыл бұрын
@@AldoScotia He did. Against advice. Did so to show the neutrality he pretended to his people. Unwarranted and unloved act. But done in the mistake belief it would add to credibility. Shameful? Aye, true enough. But the man did remain at the top of Irish politics until 1975.
@AldoScotia
@AldoScotia Жыл бұрын
@@mosspally6995 not just de Valera but Hyde the president also sent his condolences.
@mosspally6995
@mosspally6995 Жыл бұрын
@@AldoScotia aye. All of them were thicker than pigshit in that regard. I’m no man to defend Dev, but the reality was fifteen than portrayed here.
@GlorpLorp
@GlorpLorp Жыл бұрын
@@AldoScotia did Ireland ever give Germany any intelligence? You're a child if you think giving condolences is enough to be allied with someone. The Irish killed Germans while allowing Brits to leave.
@danboy98
@danboy98 2 жыл бұрын
The country of Ireland may not have fought but the Irish people did
@noodlyappendage6729
@noodlyappendage6729 Жыл бұрын
Ireland fought but the Republic of Ireland did not.
@ewcc8847
@ewcc8847 2 жыл бұрын
Ireland was not a republic during the war, it was a dominion in the same vein as Canada and had the king as head of state. And like Canada it had no obligation to join the war.
@genghisthegreat2034
@genghisthegreat2034 Жыл бұрын
No, it kept the King that had abdicated, and nominated and made his Governor General , a man who was content to be invited to nothing.
@jonathanfaull1880
@jonathanfaull1880 2 жыл бұрын
Left out Irish ships travelling with the protection of convoys, also as Britain paid for Irelands lighthouses maybe they paid for the weather reporting too? Also the ports were handed over in 1938. They were Irish so fair enough though the price was paid by sailors and their loved ones. Also the Irish government sent a telegram of condolences to Germany on the news of their leaders death (Fuhrer).
@emanwhomakesbarrels701
@emanwhomakesbarrels701 2 жыл бұрын
And the use of the Donegal passageway. And the unprovoked use of Irish coastline and airspace. The huge amount of food exported to the UK from Ireland. Ireland was neutral in name only. By right any soldier allied or axis that crash landed in Ireland should not f been kept in POW camps until the end of the conflict. Any American or English soldiers were transported out of the country by the Irish government and given back to the allies. Any axis soldiers were arrested and imprisoned in the Wicklow mountains. Many of whom are still buried there today.
@daniellinehan63
@daniellinehan63 2 жыл бұрын
After the war, those Irishmen who fought for the Allies were treated like shite by the Devalera Government and MANY fellow " citizens".
@hammersmashedspud4345
@hammersmashedspud4345 Жыл бұрын
Many of them joined the Free State army. Of y relations that fought,none were treated like shite
@Kevc00
@Kevc00 Жыл бұрын
They were and they weren't. Many were but it was mostly those who had deserted the Irish army to join the British army, as opposed to ordinary volunteers. Still shouldn't have happened.
@emcc8598
@emcc8598 Жыл бұрын
Stop with the Horsemanure Daniel. The only ones who got in trouble were those who actually deserted. And what the Brits did to their deserters was a helluva lot worse. Look it up yamuppet.
@fitzerelli1
@fitzerelli1 Жыл бұрын
5 of my uncles joined up ,RAF and Army
@johanna2059
@johanna2059 Жыл бұрын
Churchill actually threatened De Valera over his stance on Ireland remaining neutral during the war. The letter that De Valera wrote back to Churchill is a piece of literature that is a true work of art. De Valera was indeed the true gentleman despite Churchill's, ahem, 'aristocratic' lineage.
@timg1246
@timg1246 2 жыл бұрын
This video is incompetent. The Republic of Ireland did not exist during WW2. It was the Irish Free State, which had home rule NOT independence. So, Ireland did not have sovereignty to defend. Sovereignty over foreign affairs was still controlled by the UK. Technically the UK could have declared war on Germany on Ireland's behalf. So, the point of "allowing" the allies to use its seaways or airspace was a question never raised because neither Dublin nor London wanted to settle the issue of whether that was covered by home rule or foreign policy. Both parties essentially wanted to see Germany defeated.
@bobsemple9341
@bobsemple9341 2 жыл бұрын
And the Republic of Ireland doesn't even exist today. Its called ireland
@lasigh3883
@lasigh3883 2 жыл бұрын
@Tim G124 The Irish Free State ceased to exist in 1937. Serious question: Can't you get anything right? LOL
@lasigh3883
@lasigh3883 2 жыл бұрын
@Tim G124 It most certainly did not only have 'home rule' you, illiterate prat. Dur....
@konstantinkoverchenko9587
@konstantinkoverchenko9587 Жыл бұрын
Irish soldiers, like black American soldiers don’t get enough respect for their sacrifice during WW2.
@DavidJ8816
@DavidJ8816 Жыл бұрын
Your pronunciation of Taoiseach.. spot on. 👌
@IrishPagan99
@IrishPagan99 2 жыл бұрын
we didn't fight as a country but there was still lots of Irishmen fighting in ww2
@seankavanagh7625
@seankavanagh7625 Жыл бұрын
Another golden opportunity for Unionists to unleash their Hibernophobia and try and justify what they did here with Dev sending a postcard. Lovely
@aaronkenna2660
@aaronkenna2660 2 жыл бұрын
I'm irish and another interesting thing is we gave food to UK soldiers but the Germans saw made in Ireland on the food they got off dead soldiers and bombed the factory producing it
@k.m.6265
@k.m.6265 Жыл бұрын
A tough line to straddle. They played it well I think
@sharky8534
@sharky8534 2 жыл бұрын
The Irish are a good folk bar Conor mcgregor I’m Asian my best pal is an Irish lad by the name of lynch
@TheDentedHelmet
@TheDentedHelmet 2 жыл бұрын
The Conscience of the Irish people is second to none. They have sympathised with the plight of the oppressed, regardless of race, class or nationality and more often than not, acted righteously to help them and have continue to do so....wether volunteering to fight for the enemy in ww2 or Slamming a Truck into the Russin Embassy in Ireland at the start of the Ukraine War. If the Irish think that you are the baddies, then you probably Are. Love and Respect for our Irish Comrades from India. We have not and will not forget our friends and allies of Independence. 🇮🇪❤🇮🇳
@white_malice8831
@white_malice8831 2 жыл бұрын
Sh#t up traitor. Irish, indians, Arabs, Germans were united in a struggle against the Jewish anglo Saxon leviathan
@TheDentedHelmet
@TheDentedHelmet 2 жыл бұрын
@@white_malice8831 Ah, we remember, when Indians allied themselves to the Axis and the Japanese under the INA... hope was rife, victory was within grasp and the Japanese didn't pack supplies, provisions or ammunition. So when the first battle was lost, they took the INA's supplies of fuel, then our provisions, then our German Equipment and Ammunition. Finally when all hope was nearly lost and the day couldn't seem bleaker, the Japanse started eating us. I guess the Honorary Aryans wanted to gain power by consuming real Aryans? Overall, I'd give the Burma expedition, 3 outta 10. But hey, India has the bragging rights to being one among a very few number of Nafions to be recognised by all 3 Major Axis Powers. You got a cool Nazbol ideology though, and I can always appreciate someone who hates the British more than I do.
@white_malice8831
@white_malice8831 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDentedHelmetdon't complain to me when the slant eye Eastern chads start eating the flesh off your terribly proportioned indian orbital rims, tasty!
@emcc8598
@emcc8598 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Don't mind the pack of bitter brits lol. Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪 to 🇮🇳
@azbeaux
@azbeaux 2 жыл бұрын
So they call it being Neutral. Interesting.
@Hunter_VanderMatthews
@Hunter_VanderMatthews 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely bobbing one way and weaving at other points, depending on which comments you believe.
@Adaman368
@Adaman368 Жыл бұрын
Its calling walking a tightrope between a belligerent Britain and Waring Germany. And yes Ireland chose neutrality and we know the Irish government aided the allies even where that risked the Germans retaliating. They helped the allies with essential intelligence, provided advance weather reports which famously allowed the day for DDay to be chosen. Permitted Aircorridors for Allied airplanes over Ireland. Ditto shipping in the Irish Sea. All downed and rescued allied personal free to return to their bases whilst German personal were locked up for the duration of the war. The Irish merchant marine which braved uboats to deliver food from Ireland without which Britain would have starved. Lots more if you actually wish to learn
@alvaroriccardirocadetogore8116
@alvaroriccardirocadetogore8116 Жыл бұрын
De Valera it's my family, my grandmother she's Valera. I lived in Ireland two years and was taught that Eamon was my family.
@joeshanks971
@joeshanks971 Жыл бұрын
I always loved that some Irish came a joined us in the war, I’m English and the the Irish aren’t to fond of us but I wish we could just get along.
@Adaman368
@Adaman368 Жыл бұрын
I also wish the English hadn't tried to wipe the Irish out over a period of some 800 years. Funny thing is the Irish today get on with the English despite that brutal history of history and colonisation. Its a funny old world.
@joeshanks971
@joeshanks971 Жыл бұрын
@@Adaman368 get on is a bit far still think there’s a lot of places in Ireland I couldn’t walk through wearing an England shirt.
@Adaman368
@Adaman368 Жыл бұрын
@@joeshanks971 in Rugby? No problem at all. Football hooliganism unfortunately knows no borders
@colmivers
@colmivers 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime an American mispronounces Ireland my souls is torn in Twain... which is hilarious because you fuckin nailed Taoiseach 😂👍
@JUST_DEADPOOL141
@JUST_DEADPOOL141 Жыл бұрын
When the Irish went to fight wars for Britain back in WW1 they were promised their families would be taken care of. Those men came back to see their wives and children frozen to death in their tiny cottages with the roofs ripped off. The British did that. That's why Irish had a hard time going to fight for Britain in WW2. That along with the 800 years of oppression.
@ABriefHistoryOfhistory
@ABriefHistoryOfhistory Жыл бұрын
There's a podcast called we have ways of making you talk and they have a whole episode dedicated to the irish volunteers. Also the Irish times reported in 2001 that Churchill at one point proposed that he would allow the unification of Ireland, if Ireland joined the war.
@patm8622
@patm8622 Жыл бұрын
Churchill with his lies and fake promises
@tonybuk70
@tonybuk70 Жыл бұрын
As a UK citizen, love to the Irish, we havent forgotten the sacrifices of people like Foggarty Fengen.
@BatTaz19
@BatTaz19 Жыл бұрын
And we haven't forgotten about the many atrocities either.
@skibbitybebop
@skibbitybebop Жыл бұрын
​@@BatTaz19 cry more
@connor9295
@connor9295 Жыл бұрын
​@@BatTaz19 Can't be civil to a guy who's showing appreciation because he's British, even though he had precisely fuck all to do with anything that happened in history. Pitiful little rat 😂
@doylersafl8728
@doylersafl8728 Жыл бұрын
​@@skibbitybebopwe forgive, but maybe not forget
@JJaqn05
@JJaqn05 Жыл бұрын
​@@doylersafl8728 Love Southern Ireland🇬🇧🇬🇧
@user-nb8yt2il2r
@user-nb8yt2il2r 2 жыл бұрын
"Hey ireland, britain needs your help to fight a country that hasnt oppressed you for centuries!" Ireland:🙈
@johngledhill2970
@johngledhill2970 2 жыл бұрын
The British wanted Ireland to remain neutral, they were fighting to the East and the South, also North Africa and the Far East, the last thing they wanted was to worry about an attack from the West. Ireland made a good tactical decision.
@mr.afrikaans1747
@mr.afrikaans1747 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Ireland. For all the bad that Britain has inflicted upon Ireland you sent vital aid and gave so many lives to secure the victory for the allies.
@shadefelblade
@shadefelblade Жыл бұрын
My dad's grandpa was in the Irish military during ww2 and trained dogs to find bombs
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