WHY do I normally land my Airbus using CONF 3 instead of FULL? | Real Airbus Pilot

[@TrooperSmithy]

As someone who is new to flight sim and enjoying learning new stuff, I really enjoy seeing your videos to learn something from a real pilot. Thank you so much and keep the work up!

[@TazziedoesWT]

Anyone who needs a quick answer- Try Landing the MD-11 with 50 degrees of flap compared to 35.

[@strikingscorp4659]

I like these little insights and attention to detail, hoping to see more videos like this Emi 🙏

[@A330Driver]

I hear your wish ;-) More to come soon!

[@someoneneintown]

Maybe you could once explain when to use a config 1 or 2 for take-off in an A320 Neo. I am not a pilot. But I love to watch your videos and reproduce the learnings in MSFS 2024.

[@Cooli02002qq]

landed with a config 3 landing on an A20N, must be for this reason, thanks for explanation!

[@A330Driver]

Most certainly!

[@mdhazeldine]

Very handy little video. I had been wondering about this and suspected what you said, but it's good to have it confirmed. Is there a standard amount of runway you must have left beyond your calculated stopping distance, or is it more about whether or not you can make the most convenient runway exit?

[@A330Driver]

Generally most airports you fly into have a minimum runway occupancy procedure in effect, which requires you to take the first exit you can safely make. Apart from that the Factored Landing Distance already takes all margins into account. If you look closely at the calculations you can see that you get the Landing Distance and the Factored Landing Distance. The LD is what you'll actually need in an ideal world. The F-LD adds the required safety margins (normally 15%).

[@pratyushahirwar4046]

Can you please post a new video of the new headwind a330 neo? Btw amazing work you’ve done on the channel you’ve helped me start my flightsimming hobby and have taught me the ins and outs of airbus and Boeing

[@Dncyx]

I've watched a old video of Captain Warren Vanderburgh of American Airline teaching to use less flaps in a possible windshear scenario. Is that something you'll do in airbus?

[@davidathay3680]

Does the extra stable feeling of CONF FULL have anything to do with the engines being spooled higher into a range where they respond more quickly to thrust changes/spool up faster in case of a go-around? I've heard that used as a rationale for using FULL in turbulence/wind shear conditions. Seems like if you fly an Airbus IRL, your company will discuss this more in their SOPs. I'm just a Guppy driver, but we have a list of situations where flaps 40 is recommended. On IOE, check pilots emphasize flaps 40 landings and require more practice with them knowing that most of us on the line will use 30 whenever we can. Not to save carbon- it just flies nicer at 30. The MAX does flaps 40 really well due to the FBW spoilers...

[@morganperry1110]

I'am a simple guy and like to pull levers and push buttons so I will continue to go for the flap full landings and take the advantages of flying virtual planes😅 But I really like your short info videos

[@AirportEntertainment]

Thank you very much for your detailed explaination. Does this also apply to the A320 Family (Fenix)? You mentioned the Airbus Green Procedures

[@noway9880]

aside from the extra drag of 'full' and thereby higher burn is there not some subtle difference in elevator authority? i mean between flap 3/full. or the same amount of sidestick deflection yields the same amount of elevator movement

[@hornetj3777]

Full flaps also produce the highest amount of drag, thus the extra fuel burn. Is the landing angle, which is different to the approach, also steeper in airliners like with GA aircraft?

[@A330Driver]

Do you mean the pitch on touchdown? Yes it is.

[@killz4money]

@@A330Driver Hi Emi, isn't it the case that for the 737NG in very foggy autoland situations, flap 40 is preferred to actually have a bit of a lower nose angle so you could better see the approach / leading in lights? I'd be interested to hear your experience in this! Thanks again!

[@Kaptain_Noodle]

Great video, Does this apply to the a319, 20 and 21 as well?

[@jcsk8]

Not him, but yes. For every plane.

[@A330Driver]

It does

[@nascimentol835]

Landing with Flap 3 on the INI a330 =Plane dropping down to the runway at 1k FPM

[@mikechamberlain9527]

Is improved climb gradient on the missed approach a factor on the Airbus. On RL aircraft I've flown the missed approach is executed and flap is retracted one stage initially. In the Airbus this would be FULL to Flap 2 or Flap 3 to Flap 1. Is this correct for the Airbus? If so then the Flap 1 during the GA would improve climb gradient. Just curious.

[@xeels2708]

No, flap retraction is indeed one stage so FULL to 3 or 3 to 2

[@LucasPlayerHD]

do you also think planes in msfs are too “floaty” comparing to real life, like ground effect being too strong? i’ve noticed, coming from xplane, that in msfs you barely have to flare

[@A330Driver]

I wouldn't say in MSFS per-se, but some developers definitely completly mess the ground effect up. The A330 is a good example of that, you either flare the real one at 40ft, or you'll smack it into the ground (unless you leave the thrust on until touchdown). In the sim you got to flare it at 20ft. However that's something the developers can tune and influence.

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

@@A330Driver That is indeed also something I noticed. I know little of real world behaviour of aircraft, but what I do know is that the larger the surface of the wings the earlier you have to flare. That's why I got so confused that flaring the A330 earlier than the A320 does not seem to have the intended results in the sim.

[@A330Driver]

@ I'm not sure if any of the following is true or not, but something I noticed is that the only ones who seem to have gotten the flare right are FBW in their A380. You either flare that one at 50ft, or you're done for. Perhabs the payware devs intentionally make it easier to land other widebodies so that customers get easier satisfaction? No idea if there's any truth in that though.

[@hassobasso7067]

@A330 Driver During your virtual type rating course the mcdu did not calculate flaps 3 speed, is that fixed now?

[@A330Driver]

It's not fixed yet. But just add 3kt to the Vapp and you're good to go.

[@anarkia2004tj]

Infornative as always...charge your ipad

[@A330Driver]

Keeping the iPad at a high charge when it's basically not used (between flights) shortens the battery life. I'd rather leave it where it is and charge it just prior to my duty.

[@anarkia2004tj]

@A330Driver i was being a bit of a clown...i completely understand, and the funny thing is i sent that message with 31% battery myself

[@maroon9980]

This is common procedure in IRL too? Or pilot's discretion?

[@borna5636]

Hi emi I was wondering you are using the SU1 Beta for FS24?

[@A330Driver]

Hi, I haven't installed it yet.

[@gwalker3092]

The nose of the aircraft on exterior view 4:05 just looks wrong 😮

[@rshvkkt91]

Same reason why B737 drivers use flaps 30 on landing routinely, it's cheaper!😅

[@A330Driver]

And easier to control as well on the 737!

[@vedymin1]

Why slowly drag yslf by the engines to the runway if you don't need to.😇

[@st3pn56]

do pilots get a bonus for saving fuel?

[@richardvaasone5658]

the earth does

[@A330Driver]

As far as I'm aware no airline pays such a bonus - and I really hope none ever will.

[@pisagor-y9e]

So pilots try to always use config 3 whenever possible?

[@A330Driver]

That's what the "Airbus Green Procedures" recommend.

[@pisagor-y9e]

@A330Driver thank you

[@DanielDuhon]

Nothing to do with the environment, it’s all about money

[@A330Driver]

Well, it's both at the same time.

[@DanielDuhon]

The A330 is so underpowered

[@A330Driver]

Doesn't need more power

[@AVIATIONSOUNDEXPERT]

What is the difference of Landing Distance and Factored Landing Distance required? When do you use the non factored and when do you use the factored landing distance? Thank you for answering.

[@A330Driver]

LD is what the plane will actually take if flown exactly as per the manual. However that does not include any safety margins. F-LD includes those safety margins. F-LD is used to determine if you can legally land, but LD may be used to determine how to minimize your runway occupancy time as it is closer to how much distance you'll actually take to stop the plane.

[@AVIATIONSOUNDEXPERT]

​​@@A330Driver Thanks Emanel. For better understanding, it would help alot if you make a video about that. Vielen Dank!