Why do people even like Wuthering Heights?! (reading Emily Brontë for the first time)

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@TwelvetreeZ
@TwelvetreeZ 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but quoting Wuthering Heights at your wedding is basically cursing your marriage, holy heck 😂
@Algorithmicgeneratedwordsalad
@Algorithmicgeneratedwordsalad 2 жыл бұрын
I know a couple who use the ring from Lord of the Rings as their wedding ring and had the always quote from Harry Potter monogrammed onto all of their wedding dishes and Cutlery
@xXWithoutMyHeroesXx
@xXWithoutMyHeroesXx 2 жыл бұрын
wedding quotes are always the wildest choices
@suzy8109
@suzy8109 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think it was read at Harry and Meghan's wedding?🤭
@maddietownsend7696
@maddietownsend7696 2 жыл бұрын
It's the worst and most toxic enmeshment and somehow it's an airy fairy Pinterest quote now. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@reikun86
@reikun86 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha those poor people.
@gracebevill
@gracebevill 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this book because everyone is so rotten- there's no discrimination between male and female, everyone is just bitter and cruel. And I feel that's so rare in classics, where there's usually a saintly redeeming female lead, that it's actually quite refreshing. I recommend the 2011 film version! Although it had some problems, like most adaptations, the cinematography is absolutely gorgeous and captures really well the wild and isolated feeling of the book!
@carlatate7678
@carlatate7678 2 жыл бұрын
Joli, this is why I love Austen's Emma. By conventions of the time, Jane Fairfax should be the point of view character saintly orphan that she is, and Emma the antagonist. This book shows the story from the mean girl's side... And she doesn't know she's a mean girl!
@gracebevill
@gracebevill 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlatate7678 second this 100%!
@leleprtk
@leleprtk Жыл бұрын
The book follows no class conventions of the time, I loved that so much the first time I've read it! It was so refreshing and new, I couldn't believe it was written almost 200 years ago
@vanyadolly
@vanyadolly Жыл бұрын
Exactly! It's fascinating, especially for a Victorian novel. There's no decency and no moralizing, no matter how awful and insane things get. It invites us to hate and love the characters the way they hate and love themselves.
@detectivedaffodil437
@detectivedaffodil437 4 ай бұрын
I agree that's what is amazing about the book, it didn't have moralising undertones.
@kittykat1846
@kittykat1846 2 жыл бұрын
My dad named me Catherine after this book. Still to this day have no idea why he thought that was aspirational for his daughter.
@ellenmcaleese7004
@ellenmcaleese7004 2 жыл бұрын
🤣😂 your poor Dad has probably never lived his choice down. I am sure he meant only the best for you.
@moominmay
@moominmay 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to think it was because of Kate Bush’s enticing depiction of her haha😅
@kittykat1846
@kittykat1846 2 жыл бұрын
@@moominmay I'll take that 😂
@caycay9613
@caycay9613 Жыл бұрын
girl same here my mom did this to me
@poesie6279
@poesie6279 Жыл бұрын
Your Dad was a true romantic, so forgive him. Don’t forget Cathy was quite a feisty woman, perhaps he wanted you to be. I hope this cheers you up. It is a nice name after all.
@sarahporter1456
@sarahporter1456 2 жыл бұрын
Wuthering Heights is one of my favorite books because Brontë is so intentional with how she describes characters and their actions. She lets the reader read between the lines to figure out plot points. Her portrayal of Heathcliff is particularly interesting because she creates one of the most cruel characters of all time, but Brontë allows the reader to feel sorry for him and also understand why he is the way he is- you can sympathize with him but also absolutely condemn his actions as wrong. The complexity of every character is what gets me.
@ermintrude_fanshaw
@ermintrude_fanshaw 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! That’s what I love about him as a character! You see the abuse he suffers and can understand his antipathy while condemning its consequences.
@sigridsimmen
@sigridsimmen 2 жыл бұрын
I read this book when I was a bit too young, and English is also not my first language. I couldn't keep up at all haha. I'm not necessarily saying this is the fault of the book, but my experience of it. Interesting to see that you love letting the readers read between the lines, but my experience of it was "wait hang on, these characters apparently love each other??? since when?". Maybe I need to give it another chance!
@cinemaocd1752
@cinemaocd1752 2 жыл бұрын
Wuthering Heights is a novel about the problems created by child abuse. People don't get that enough.
@SammieMousie
@SammieMousie 2 жыл бұрын
See this is literally the only reason why I enjoyed the novel. I really believe it's the mark of a great writer to make you love and hate a character. But it's a bigger achievement to do this with more than half your characters. I hated the characters so much (even Nelly) it almost took the enjoyment out of the novel for me. But when I finished it and reflected on it, I could not stop thinking about all the characters and how complex they were. Emily Bronte's writing is amazing.
@happyjellycatsquid
@happyjellycatsquid 2 жыл бұрын
@@sigridsimmen I mean if you love being told stuff straight up you won’t like WH and you probably wouldn’t like a lot of my favourite books, but I do recommend you to reread it otherwise because while it’s quite challenging to keep up with as a non-native English speaker (the bloody accent is the bane of my existence truly), it’s an incredible piece of writing
@bearr3096
@bearr3096 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm an optimistic book buyer and a pessimistic reader." I felt that
@MagpieGhost
@MagpieGhost 2 жыл бұрын
I fell very deeply in love with this book as a teenager, but I'm pretty sure I never thought it was romantic. It's filled with horrible characters doing horrible things, it's cold, creepy, violent, repulsive... but in a deliciously good way. I distinctly remember being around 17, sitting in my bed and reading the whole book in one day.
@ellenmcaleese7004
@ellenmcaleese7004 2 жыл бұрын
me too. And it is still my favourite novel.
@vanyadolly
@vanyadolly Жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's my favoruite book, but it annoys me to no end that it's gotten a rep as a romance. It's as romantic as the cycle of abuse.
@michaelconrad4445
@michaelconrad4445 Жыл бұрын
Yes yes and yes!
@asmalloctopus
@asmalloctopus 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that you picked up on the fact that all of heathcliffe and Cathy’s love is reported; I quite like that because we feel so shut out from their relationship- it heightens their obsession and insulatority I think. I actually feel shut out from all the characters- feels like we’re peeking in the windows of the houses
@breannaautry5820
@breannaautry5820 Жыл бұрын
But since it is a ghost story In a way, it makes since that she wrote it that way. Keeps it very intriguing and haunting
@pheejohnson5680
@pheejohnson5680 2 жыл бұрын
This book sat with me years after, the cruelty that people inflicted on their apparent nearest and dearest. I remember hating everyone but couldn't put it down. I can safely say though, that Cathy and Heathcliff deserved each other.
@mariailyukhina405
@mariailyukhina405 2 жыл бұрын
I think you need a series with reading classic novels and reviewing them! Very curious to hear you talk about Rebecca :)
@missdragon5892
@missdragon5892 2 жыл бұрын
Now that's a good book
@raccoonsnacks
@raccoonsnacks 2 жыл бұрын
Seccond this!
@saraht855
@saraht855 2 жыл бұрын
I loved Rebecca so much!
@takeitawayerni
@takeitawayerni 2 жыл бұрын
Sooo good! Would love to see this
@arabellamileham9978
@arabellamileham9978 2 жыл бұрын
Yes please!
@trinity3272
@trinity3272 2 жыл бұрын
I dont totally get why so many people hate wuthering heights, it's so interesting and unique. It's about the cycle of abuse and PTSD and bpd and womanhood and growing up and obsession and soulmates
@Alinda1308
@Alinda1308 2 жыл бұрын
It's just tastes. I don't like it and there's nothing wrong about it, and you do and there's nothing wrong about it too :) It's kind of interesting to see how people think so many different things about the same book
@gingerprice9221
@gingerprice9221 2 жыл бұрын
I think, if approached through that lens, it's compelling, but I think that a lot of people who aren't familiar with the Brontës kind of assume she's like an Austen and are expecting a romance or something. Maybe that's just my experience coming from a white, lower middle-class, conservative background, but it was way darker than baby Ginger had expected it to be, haha. But if we want to examine the dark stuff (which I love *now* but didn't when I was 18, haha), then I think it's great.
@Katyob7
@Katyob7 2 жыл бұрын
I lovee it toooooo xxx
@sabzc3898
@sabzc3898 2 жыл бұрын
Think it just comes down to expectations, a lot of readers that hated Wuthering Heights expected a brooding romance but what they got was a novel of horrible people doing horrible things. My cousin is a massive Austen fan and she started reading Wuthering Heights so she asked me what I thought as she knew I read it and I told her I loved it (it's my fav classic) but I said if she's expecting romance out of this novel she's gonna be really disappointed.
@brees3
@brees3 2 жыл бұрын
@@sabzc3898 I completely agree. For most classics, having a tad bit of background info on the book is helpful to set expectations, both for the structure of the novel and for the time period/region in which it was written. I would have hated Anna Karenina if I didn't know what I was getting into.
@cquinnth
@cquinnth 2 жыл бұрын
I was swept away when I read and studied Wuthering Heights 50 odd years ago. How did Emily Brontë, living such a restricted life in a remote location, ever conceive of and write this book? Who was Emily? I think she had a wild interior life, mirrored by the bleak moors, and that wildness floods her book. To me, this book is so different from other books of this period because of exploding emotions. The 1939 movie with Lawrence Olivier is a classic film that captures the romanticism, beautifully acted and filmed.
@belleellis
@belleellis 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! After reading Wuthering Heights I became obsessed with Emily. I even went to Haworth to see the Brontë home and walk the same street she did. Also I have never forgiven how mean Elizabeth Gaskell was in her portrayal of Emily in her biography of Charlotte. She never even met Emily and to this day I refuse to ready any other Gaskell work as solidarity in with Emily 🙃
@corvuscorone7735
@corvuscorone7735 2 жыл бұрын
Have you read Anne's books, though? I find them at least as surprising (and like them a great deal more). SO modern and forward thinking, in the way she describes relationships, abuse, substance abuse, self-preservation, and strong women who will not be cowed by men or society.
@belleellis
@belleellis 2 жыл бұрын
@@corvuscorone7735 I loved the Tenant of Wildfell Hall. It's a great novel and I agree very surprising and modern. I have to say though maybe it's the wildness or maybe even just the age at which I read it but for me there is just something so intriguing and magnetic about Emily and Wuthering Heights.
@sorcellerie
@sorcellerie 2 жыл бұрын
I read this book a few years ago and I distinctly remember how delightfully terrible people the characters were, like I couldn't look away
@writerspen010
@writerspen010 2 жыл бұрын
Wuthering Heights is my favorite classic for many reasons. For one, I love Emily's poetic prose. "Be with me always--take any form--drive me mad! Only do not leave me in this abyss where I cannot find you! Oh, God, it is unutterable! I cannot live without my life! I cannot live without my soul!" That is so BEAUTIFUL and tragic. It's also very different yet timeless and relevant for being a classic about the cycles of abuse and trauma. I think the Laurence Olivier movie adaptation from the 1930s (and most adaptations that followed) has really skewed the public's interpretation or image of WH for only telling half the story. Readers who come from the movies expect this brooding, Jane Austen-like romance and don't know what to do when what they get is actually isolated people hurting from lifetimes of mistreatment and hurting others as they feel trapped by their limited options, class expectations, and toxic relationships and for living with the consequences of their immature, abusive behavior. And yet! the book ends on a hopeful note with Hareton and Cathy, Jr. bettering each other and learning to love each other despite their flaws as they both begin to grow past the mistakes of their parents' generation. Wuthering Heights is poetic realism, and I really appreciate Emily (and the Gothic genre at large) for exploring this difficult side of human nature.
@ellenmcaleese7004
@ellenmcaleese7004 2 жыл бұрын
You have expressed the depth and complexity of this novel with such articulation. Thank you.
@beatriztoledo551
@beatriztoledo551 2 жыл бұрын
6:05 I read somewhere that Emily was actually quite mad that some women at the time thought Heathcliff was hot while she had pourposly made him a terrible human being and not to be desired
@stardroplet9499
@stardroplet9499 2 жыл бұрын
And sadly many are still like that, like those women that wrote letters to serial killers.
@pearlcorder391
@pearlcorder391 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was published after she died?
@camilas5722
@camilas5722 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite books of all times. It’s so nice and refreshing to see a book about love but not the romantized kind, it’s a book about trauma and prejudice, I feel encapsulates better what it felt like to be a woman or person of color in the past .
@miriam8376
@miriam8376 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite novels of all time. It’s such a fantastic exploration of where the line is between too much society and not enough society. Heathcliff representing impulse and lawlessness and chaos and Linton representing class rigidity, rules, and order. And Catherine and Cathy in between, mirror images of each other-one ruined by being too free, the other on the verge of being ruined by being too constrained. Ugh, such a stellar, insightful novel, and dramatic AF. I think I read it five times as a teenager lol.
@gailcbull
@gailcbull 2 жыл бұрын
I personally think Wurthering Heights should be considered one of the first works of psychological fiction. It's basically about how trauma effects how people make decisions -- badly -- and the self-sabotage it leads to. Emily Bronte was writing psychological fiction before psychology was even a science! Edited to add my classics recommendations: The Shooting Party by Anton Chekhov. It's Chekhov's only novel and one of the earliest examples of the mystery genre. But forget all the tropes of the modern mystery genre: this is Russian-style mystery, and it's far more twisted then any mystery novel you'll ever read! My other recommendation is Fifth Business by Robertson Davies. This book starts off with two 10-year-old frenimies taunting each other as they're walking home from a sledding hill in the middle of winter. One throws a snowball at the other, he ducks the snowball, and it instead hits the head of the young heavily-pregnant wife of the local Baptist minister, bringing about the premature birth of a third boy. The novel then follows the lives of the 2 boys -- one who takes on more guilt then his due, and the other who blocks the event from him mind and takes no responsibility for it at all -- and explores how guilt and shame can alter the course of our lives.
@dearellisbell
@dearellisbell Жыл бұрын
Please don't treat the new film as a biopic by any means, it will absolutely reveal nothing of any semblance to Emily's true character because all we have are conjectures. All we know of her is that she was near obstinately introverted, petrified of being away from home, and kept very little society. She was an enigma even to Charlotte, who she ended up having somewhat kind of a strained relationship with her in the end as their brother became more unwell. Some psychologists have gone on to ponder if Emily may have fallen somewhere on the ASD spectrum which, not going to lie, fills me full of pride as an autistic person and with WH being my favourite ever, ever book. She had no romances, and I was gutted to see her genius being discredited to some type of lived experience in 'Emily'. Wuthering Heights to me is an incredible, unflinching look at generational trauma and almost I may imagine may be seen as a cathartic release from the moral pressures of 19th century society. Unrestrained wildness of emotion. I absolutely loved to hate all the characters. 🤣
@18becbec
@18becbec 2 жыл бұрын
My #1 classics rec is Middlemarch. A beast of a book, but SO worth it. Also a surprisingly easy read in terms of language, most of the time! It's just the most ridiculously well-observed novel, with this pinpoint accuracy about psychology, about how gossip works, about the small choices that can set a whole life on a different path, about religion and ethics and the different ways they can (or should) function... Ugh its just SO BLOODY GOOD.
@stephaniehopkinsartist
@stephaniehopkinsartist 2 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@schoo9256
@schoo9256 2 жыл бұрын
I need a warning--does it have a happy ending?
@18becbec
@18becbec 2 жыл бұрын
@@schoo9256 Middlemarch? I find the ending really satisfying! It follows several different people, and they each have their own path, so I can't say it's 100% happy. But it's definitely not a tragedy, and compared to Wuthering Heights it's the world's happiest story 💀
@schoo9256
@schoo9256 2 жыл бұрын
@@18becbec thanks for the reply! The ending sounds good to me, in fact the whole book sounds very Jane Austen-y in some ways. Can't wait to give it a go!
@18becbec
@18becbec 2 жыл бұрын
@@schoo9256 I'm so glad you're interested! Austen and Eliot are both incredible at observing people, it makes the characters and social politics feel so real. Eliot's life story is also really interesting, she was pretty radical and I think it comes through in her work 😊
@SimplyMayaB1994
@SimplyMayaB1994 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading this years ago and while I forgot most of the plot points by now, I distinctly remember the heavy mood it conveyed and how striking it was. I read it in Hebrew at the time since that was more readily available to me, so good job on the translator's part as well for conveying that intensity so well I can recall it years later - wildly different languages!
@ibfishing8089
@ibfishing8089 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for confirming that it's not just me who finds it difficult to read this book. I thought it's because English is my second language, but I know that some classics I didn't struggle with at all. I'm still on page 50 and have been for over 4 weeks 😂 just not enjoying it at all, struggling to follow all the characters and the what's happening. But at the same time I feel like I have to read it to feel EdUcAtEd.
@shaynaloveswiss1
@shaynaloveswiss1 2 жыл бұрын
Which classics did you nit struggle with?
@annemorph
@annemorph 2 жыл бұрын
There is an Audible version (included with subscription) that is INCREDIBLE. Read by Joanne Froggatt. It had me absolutely glued to the story and I was able to understand it completely. I had also tried and struggled with the book itself (and I am a native English speaker with many years of post grad education lol). I am listening to all of the free Audible classics on my morning walks and while doing chores etc and it's changed my experience with them. Just also finished Persuasion read by Florence Pugh-amazing as well! Anyways, just wanted to share in case it helps.
@mariekeana
@mariekeana 2 жыл бұрын
@@shaynaloveswiss1 I also really struggled with Wuthering Heights but Jane Austen for example was so much easier for me to read, as well as Little Women or Jules Verne, especially Around the World in 80 Days. I think that's partially because the characters didn't all hate just each other.
@sarahbarth7267
@sarahbarth7267 2 жыл бұрын
That's funny, because this is one of my favorite books. I've read Wuthering Heights so many times, my copy is falling apart.
@ibfishing8089
@ibfishing8089 2 жыл бұрын
@@shaynaloveswiss1 for example one of the 'younger' classics - 'the remains of the day' . Or even similar stuff to WH - Persuasion, Pride and Prejudice etc. But this one I just CAN'T pay any attention. I keep re-reading the same sentence and it's not sinking it. I have not got a clue what she's on about 😂🙈 I'm page 55 now... 8 days later 🙂😭
@Fenyally
@Fenyally 2 жыл бұрын
i hope this type of video becomes a series, i loved hearing your thoughts and getting to come along the reading journey with you
@goosegirl26
@goosegirl26 2 жыл бұрын
“…The flippin’ flap…” 😂 In other words, I really enjoy you and your videos, Leena. 😁
@AyanaArrington
@AyanaArrington 2 жыл бұрын
Conflicted about watching this when it premieres, because Wuthering Heights absolutely lured me back into reading and most characters’ situations in the novel touched me while reading. I adore WH!!!
@WaffleTraveller
@WaffleTraveller 2 жыл бұрын
I have to start with the caveat that my experience of the book was positively affected by the fact I read a (fantastic) translation of it, so I didn't have to struggle with old-fashioned English, but it is one of my favourite stories of all time 😅 I completely agree with the "none of the characters are likable" judgement, but to me that's a testimony to its brilliance: it's rare to be captivated by a book without being really invested in any of the characters. I have to say I didn't have trouble with anyone's motivations; they are all very selfish, self-centred and damaged people, and they act in ways that reflect that. All that said, I loved this video and would love to see more of this kind in the future 💚
@puffmaggie
@puffmaggie 2 жыл бұрын
this video could've easily be titled "I read Wuthering Heights so you dont have to" coz i feel like i learnt what i needed from it hahah i've been so tempted to pick this up coz I've never read any of the sisters books and I feel bad. but this does not sound like something i'd enjoy lol. I'm interested in the show tho, didnt even know it was coming out!
@MlleLorelei
@MlleLorelei 2 жыл бұрын
If you read only one Brontë, read Jane Eyre
@user-qu8zs7vs1x
@user-qu8zs7vs1x 2 жыл бұрын
Wuthering heights is exceptional, just because she didn't get it doesn't mean you wouldn't love it
@princessemerald849
@princessemerald849 2 жыл бұрын
honestly if I'd judged based on what people had told me about this book and considering my usual tastes I would've never read it and would have missed out on one of my favorite reading experiences. I can't even describe how it made me feel with a word other than feral, it was so intense and heart-wrenching, some of the quotes still give me chills when I think about them. That being said yeah it's not for everyone
@puffmaggie
@puffmaggie Жыл бұрын
it's now a year later from this video and i ended up reading Wuthering Heights and HOLY HECK THIS VIDEO COULDN'T BE MORE RIGHT. at least now I know for sure it wasn't for me 😅
@Kate-jj5hm
@Kate-jj5hm 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never clicked on something so fast. The rage I still feel 10+ years later thinking about when I had to write a paper on this book in 10th grade English. Controversial opinion, but I also hate Catcher in the Rye which was also a paper topic in 10th grade.
@intentionallymadi1843
@intentionallymadi1843 2 жыл бұрын
I really love the Tenant of Wildfell Hall by Anne Bronte! I would highly recommend it - I feel like it's not nearly as popular as other Bronte books and it's also interesting how different it is from both Emily and Charlotte Bronte.
@catherine906
@catherine906 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite book so I am terrified by this video but also going to watch it anyway! Can't wait for the new Emily film :)
@eliza.the.earthling
@eliza.the.earthling 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think now that you’ve watched Leena’s review? 😊
@selardohr7697
@selardohr7697 Жыл бұрын
Nelly always impressed me by how unfazed and badass she was after all her years with the family when Hindley is threatening her and trying to shove a knife in her mouth she's just like "stop it, that's the fish knife, it tastes disgusting" and he's like "alright fair enough" lol
@rachelmoran5313
@rachelmoran5313 2 жыл бұрын
I studied this book at A Level and at the beginning of every essay (including the exam) we had to declare which of the Catherines we would be referring to as 'Catherine' and which would by 'Cathy' so that the examiners didn't get confused and give us awful marks
@ProsaicFluff
@ProsaicFluff 2 жыл бұрын
I read this novel when I was really young, like 12-13 years old. We had a vague summer reading assignment in-between school years: it was implied that the more we read, the better we'd be graded the next year. But we weren't given an actual list of appropriate books to choose from, so I just devoured a ton of classic literature I was definitely too young to understand. Well, unlike other masterworks like Jane Eyre or Pride & Prejudice, which I simply consumed on a surface level and/or heavily romanticized, I can tell you in all honesty I blocked Wuthering Heights from my memory. I just remember characters locked in rooms and me hating every minute of it. I put it down and never touched it again and it's been almost 2 decades since then. But this video has convinced me to finally give it another go. It would be funny if midway through reading it I'll suddenly remember it all and completely spoil myself. 😂
@Ultreezy
@Ultreezy 2 ай бұрын
Updates?
@maleahlock
@maleahlock 2 жыл бұрын
I loved Wuthering Heights as a child (although I always said "withering") but I also had an abysmal childhood so there was a sense of mentally playing out how I thought my future would be as a coping mechanism and fantasising about how being rich meant food was always available 😂. I honestly thought these people were so nice compared to my family 🤣 Looking back on it it makes me sad for my child self and so proud of where I am now. This book has definitely been integral to my life and I'm so glad you picked it up! Thank you Leena 💚💚
@taylorlien569
@taylorlien569 2 жыл бұрын
Please make more of these with other classics! I was a very bad English student in college and skipped a lot of them
@susannewhitney3735
@susannewhitney3735 2 жыл бұрын
I love this format and topic!! Please make more read-along classics videos.
@guardiantwotw1
@guardiantwotw1 2 жыл бұрын
Literally came along here to beg you to do more Classic reads videos. The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde... Doooooooooooo it. It's Fabulous. But also thank you for unshaming me for not having read this book!! I did an English and Philosophy degree - I've read a lot of books before, during and since - but I've read so few of the greats. I feel way less guilty now and that's because of you. Genuinely, thank you xx
@theonlyenekoeneko
@theonlyenekoeneko 2 жыл бұрын
The family tree broke my brain for a while there 😅 I paused the video and couldn’t unpause for, I’m not kidding, about 15 minutes
@Kettun
@Kettun 2 жыл бұрын
The only classics book I enjoyed reading in school was Bulgakov's 'The Master and Margarita', even though 'Crime and Punishment' and 'War and Peace' are more popular and more beloved where I'm from. Also Griboyedov's 'Woe from Wit'. Definitely worth a shot.
@garycoates4987
@garycoates4987 2 жыл бұрын
Wuthering Heights is my favorite book, Emily tricks you into emphasizing with the motives for the cruelty and the injuries of the characters. It's a bizarre slight of hand that wouldn't work without the confusion of the names. The names are the symmetry of the story, the resolution in having Catherine Earnshaw the ghost spirit finally returning to home through "Cathy" getting the last name back. Also the resolution of Hareton who is Heathcliff's true offspring as experiencing the same struggles and abuse as Heathcliff but actually softening and healing as does Cathy. Their love story is the perfect resolution.
@victoriamariadantasrodrigues
@victoriamariadantasrodrigues Жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE this book. I first read it when I was 22 or something, and it was the most incredible experience ever. It is definitely not a book with characters that you are meant to fall in love. I love how the book is narrated by a unreliable character, you don't know exactly if everything that Nelly says is true; she was young when the events of the beginning unfold, and she makes clear, again and again, how she despised the adult Catherine's behavior; of course that affects the way she describes the story. I like to theorize that maybe Heathcliff was indeed Cathy and Hindley's brother (maybe that's why Mr. Earnshaw loved him so much, despite any logical reason, and why Mrs. Earnshaw hated him so much, she even dies from sadness), and that's maybe why their mutual feelings (I wouldn't say "love") was doomed to failure and disgrace. There's a lot of nature in the book, so I don't know, just a theory!
@rowdyyates4630
@rowdyyates4630 2 жыл бұрын
You should definitely do more reading vlogs! I loved to hear your thoughts about this!
@haysleigh1190
@haysleigh1190 2 жыл бұрын
TW for suicide and eating disorders: Whether or not Heathcliff is POC (I agree it's plausible), I read him as being so traumatised by poverty and being looked down upon, that even when he essentially becomes part of the upper class, he is still ruined by it and can't accept Cathy The First because of it. He seems to have a real loathing resentment towards her for being born into privilege. Even if Heathcliff and Cathy 1 aren't biologically related, they are still raised as siblings which is enough to give a modern reader the ick. It reminds me of Frankenstein where Victor is betrothed to his sort of foster sister (or his cousin, depending on which version you read). Watching your review, I am seeing parallels between Frankenstein and Wuthering Heights, which also has a story within a story within a story. I think you can read one of the morals of WH as being that wild, angry, passionate obsession is not the basis for a great relationship! I wish more romances took that stance, honestly. Mark says something very similar in Peep Show! I read WH aged 16 and loved it, but I think [Spoilers Spoilers spoilers] taking yourself to bed and essentially tantruming yourself to death is more relatable at that age. (That was my favourite part, the intensity of those scenes blew me away). Speaking of, from a history of women's health perspective, Cathy 1's starvation is pretty fascinating. People will claim that eating disorders are a modern issue, and it's hard to know what to make of Cathy 1's situation. I highly recommend Frankenstein if you haven't read it. After all, Mary Shelley practically invented two new genres 1. As a teenager 2. For a parlour game 3. Surrounded by trash men. IMO the book is poorly paced but fun and short, and so thematically rich you could view it through many different lenses (feminist, queer, religious etc).
@gamewrit0058
@gamewrit0058 2 жыл бұрын
Frankenstein is a great suggestion for Leena's classic reads! David J Bradley has a KZbin video called The Queer Legacy of Frankenstein, if anyone is interested. It includes discussion of The Rocky Horror Picture Show.
@camilas5722
@camilas5722 2 жыл бұрын
I also think Heatcliff is POC probably of Romani descendence.
@haysleigh1190
@haysleigh1190 2 жыл бұрын
Heathcliff possibly being a victim of the Irish Famine is also pretty fascinating when contrasted with rich people starving themselves in the novel.
@haysleigh1190
@haysleigh1190 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamewrit0058 agreed, that's a great video.
@mauddouglasa
@mauddouglasa 2 жыл бұрын
I did not enjoy reading it very much but it's one of those books I love reflecting on after having read it
@dianacobomontes2553
@dianacobomontes2553 Жыл бұрын
I love this book because it's so different from any other work in that century. It's not moralistic at all and no a single character is worried about social conventions or what it was propper. No one is a role model, they're just people, and not very nice people. You need to be a genious to tell a story like this in that context. I think modern readers often miss all of this because now writters aren't worried about morals in general and expectations about literature are different.
@cookiemonster749
@cookiemonster749 2 жыл бұрын
Spooky that this video was uploaded just as i’m halfway through this book. I’m absolutely loving it.
@aeolia80
@aeolia80 2 жыл бұрын
I only seen the Tom Hardy adaptation of this book, never read it, it seemed weird to me. But, what's even weirder is how much of a homebody she was, and how quiet she was, but she had such a dark imagination, like, where the hell did that come from, lol
@emmeline-tyler
@emmeline-tyler 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah true!!!
@TheBooklover1848
@TheBooklover1848 2 жыл бұрын
Well, sure, but her brother was an alcohol and drug addict, she knew stories about people who'd experienced horrendous physical and emotional abuse (including her own siblings), and she and her family were encouraged to read lots of different material. So it's not like she didn't know anything about the world, she just chose to limit her participation in it.
@moominmay
@moominmay 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBooklover1848 agreed. Just because they lived in quite an isolated place, people think they were very insular and naive. However they had lives as governesses and had friends from whom they’d learn news/gossip as well as being put through some trauma by their alcoholic brother and his scandalous doings. They’d also had personal experience of much grief given their young ages. Add to that an incredible natural wilderness of an environment and pure literary talent - I’m not surprised at all the Brontë sisters had such an incredible and sometimes dark imagination!
@kevinrussell1144
@kevinrussell1144 8 ай бұрын
Let us count the sources..............she's of Irish descent, mother long dead, brilliant religious father (northern Irish one would guess, not Papist), precocious sisters and an alcoholic brother, steeped in religion but NOT living in a garden, lots of "Christians" around her not at all acting the part, a nearby church yard FILLED with people dead far too soon, sickness and disease all around, superior artistic endowment with a wild imagination.....................where could WH POSSIBLY have come from????
@vanyadolly
@vanyadolly Жыл бұрын
I adore Wuthering Heights! The mistake is people assume it's a romance. 😄 It's a story about horrible people fucking things up for each other and everyone around them. It's like beauty and the beast, if both the main characters were the beast and neither got any better than he is in the first act. It delves into the darkest pits of human behaviour and doesn't excuse or shy away from any of it. Gloriously Gothic!
@ThreefoldDesigns
@ThreefoldDesigns 2 жыл бұрын
OMG, I loved this book as a teenager, but after watching this, I think I need to read it again through my adult brain!
@LaurenSnowofLondon
@LaurenSnowofLondon 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I’m now reading the book after seeing the film Emily. I saw the film twice, cried both times.
@sophiaisabelle027
@sophiaisabelle027 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like this is an interesting video. I don’t get to see many classics enthusiasts rave about Brontë’s Wuthering Heights. We will definitely look forward to this review, Leena.
@teodorapetkovic
@teodorapetkovic 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know they were making the movie!!! So huge thanks for that... and I'm not sure which classics you haven't read, but keeping it on theme for "books with controversial movie choices" might I suggest Breakfast at Tiffany's? It's very short (I believe around 100 pages, maybe even less) and I was surprised by everything they decided to cut for the infamous Hepburn film!
@funjuror
@funjuror 2 жыл бұрын
I would recommend watching" To Walk Invisible " it is a shorter film but covers so much more.Also loved your video great fun.
@stankakol5195
@stankakol5195 4 ай бұрын
This video was incredibly entertaining!! Thank you so much for making it!!!
@corinna_maybe
@corinna_maybe 2 жыл бұрын
Found this book to be as loathsome as every single character depicted in it. DNF'd it a third in, I couldn't take it anymore :D
@Maria_Efe
@Maria_Efe 2 жыл бұрын
I read it a few years ago expecting to read an epic love story, and was very surprised to find out that it really isn't! I specifically remember someone describing Heathcliff as "the man with whom you'd cheat on Mr. Darcy"... and I'm not even the greatest Darcy fan, but what the hell?! I'm very sceptical about the movie, as it seems to focus on a love affair that Emily never seems to have had. On the other hand, I really enjoyed the BBC movie about the Brontë sisters that came out a few years ago, called "To Walk Invisible". My favourite classics are all of Jane Austen's novels, and also Victor Hugo's Les Misérables, which is an absolute beast of a book, but one you learn to love even at its most absurd (and the fact that it has an actual fandom online is amazing). I'd love to hear you talk about more classics!
@ludmilamaiolini6811
@ludmilamaiolini6811 2 жыл бұрын
Is romanticizing Heathcliff actually a thing??
@Maria_Efe
@Maria_Efe 2 жыл бұрын
@@ludmilamaiolini6811 Oh yes, I'm afraid so! 😅
@ludmilamaiolini6811
@ludmilamaiolini6811 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maria_Efe that must be why it was Bella’s favorite book. Twilight is also about an abusive relationship
@hyacinthh6900
@hyacinthh6900 2 жыл бұрын
Bad boy syndrome.
@clemencec3790
@clemencec3790 2 жыл бұрын
I've actually never read Wuthering Heights but I've seen the movie adaptation you're talking about and everything you're saying about the book, I got that from the movie. The bleakness, the unlikable characters and OF COURSE the violence (oh boy is it violent !), also the cinematogrpahy is absolutely beautiful (helped by the Yorskshire moores obviously).
@LB-gz3ke
@LB-gz3ke 2 жыл бұрын
I read it in college. I also did not care much for the book. I will say that college for me was over 30 years ago, and I still remember the characters and the story quite clearly, so it is memorable. I have no desire to ever see it onscreen or read it again.
@lindsaymorrison7519
@lindsaymorrison7519 2 жыл бұрын
Only Bronte novel that ages relatively well and is genuinely satisfying: Tenant of Wildfell Hall. You're welcome.
@EmmieLouDraws
@EmmieLouDraws Жыл бұрын
The first time I read Wuthering Heights I really disliked it. Then we were assigned to read it in school and I don't know what happened but it suddenly became brilliant. It's a grower. I think a lot of it had to do with being able to see the end from the beginning and it's the kind of plot that really works with that. It rereads really well, actually :) I ended up rereading it every year for years (been a couple of years since I last read it so I may need to change that). Loved your review/vlog!
@everythingbylau
@everythingbylau 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you read this bc I picked up a graphic novel edition for this and I haaated it so much for a lot of the reasons you mentioned in this video. I did enjoy hearing more about the cultural context from you though! A tip for Dutch speakers: there's a poetry collection about Emily Brontë called "Ik zeg Emily" by Yentl van Stokkum that I actually really loved, would recommend that.
@koribee7743
@koribee7743 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched the video yet, but I can tell you I have TRIED to read this book several times. I just can’t do it!!! Every time I pick it up I give myself a mental pep talk - you can do this - it’s so short - just keep going. Nope I can’t finish it, I want to understand the hype but I think……I hate it.
@bighairedgreenie
@bighairedgreenie 2 жыл бұрын
I read Wuthering Heights during lockdown (because the world wasn’t dark enough at that point, I guess). Call me a simp, but I hated it. I tried to find something redeeming; a lesson, a commentary, something about gender or class that would help me to understand English culture a bit more, but nothing was illuminating. The only thing I can think of that gets close is that everyone is so selfish and this is slightly reflective of reality- trauma begets trauma begets trauma. Every character in this book fully plays the part of main character. Heathcliff is obviously a sociopath in the clinical sense, but almost everyone else is incredibly narcissistic and self serving. All around a slog of a book. Womp womp.
@katiemcgraw4751
@katiemcgraw4751 2 жыл бұрын
I read this book in my early 20's and was expecting, for reasons you cover in the video, some sort of Elizabeth-and-Mr. Darcy-esque love story. Obviously, it is not remotely that. I do not remember enjoying it at all, and had no intention of rereading it. But, I think it would be interesting re reading it without that expectation. Also, highly highly recommend A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith. It was my absolute favorite book as a pre-teen/teenager and should be recognized more as A Great American Novel.
@mariamatedei
@mariamatedei Жыл бұрын
My general feelings about this books is that I wish I could pull almost every single character from the pages and just swat at them with a broom yelling BEHAVE!! 10/10 love it
@ggeraci145
@ggeraci145 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for vocalizing all my thoughts. I wish I’d read this one with a book club because there is sooo much to discuss. Oh! And thank you for saying you loved Nelly! You’re the first I hear say that and I concur completely!
@michaelconrad4445
@michaelconrad4445 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Wuthering Heights I love Minnie, the pony and Catherine, riding barefoot across the moors on a cold winter night in the snow… I can relate to that, there’s layers and layers… A love story, where every character is flawed. Brilliant!
@Harrison_J_T
@Harrison_J_T Жыл бұрын
I love Wuthering Heights but i will never get over my English teacher calling this the greatest love story of all time
@mariongivhan4574
@mariongivhan4574 2 жыл бұрын
I have a sentimental place in my heart for Wuthering Heights. I was in a play version in high school, which only had three characters: Nelly, Heathcliff, and Cathy. The intimacy of the play made all the aggression and violence and passion of the characters so evident, because everyone in the story (maybe save Nelly??) is truly awful. It's a horrible cycle, but I do think the ending sees a bit of hope that the cycle will be broken by the following generation. Who knows?
@dianabanana7394
@dianabanana7394 2 жыл бұрын
I actually was assigned to read Wuthering Heights in high school but I still didn't finish it and wrote my essay based on Sparknotes lmao maybe I'll have to try rereading it now but back then, I remember it being painful and tedious to get through. You're a real trooper, Leena!
@notASOCIALbeing
@notASOCIALbeing 2 жыл бұрын
What an incredibly well put together video, kudos to you, Leena!! I fiercely hated the book when I read it as a teen, mostly because it seemed society was telling me I should love it and I couldn't bring myself to care about any of the characters or their stories. I appreciate the creativity of telling a narrative through multiple secondary/tertiary sources, but the effect on me was apathy, like a classmate you don't particularly like telling you gossip about their shitty twice-removed cousin you don't know nor have any interest in getting to know. If anyone's hoping to crack into this story but not have to actually read it, I highly recommend Michael Ian Black's podcast "Obscure" where he reads directly from the book and comments on it as he goes with comedic flair. You get to experience schadenfreude as he suffers through it, as well as the jokey bits.
@notASOCIALbeing
@notASOCIALbeing 2 жыл бұрын
He also reads "Frankenstein" and "Jude the Obscure" on it, and both seasons are fun!
@throughcolouredglasses9300
@throughcolouredglasses9300 2 жыл бұрын
Oh perfect timing, I've spent my entire last semester with 19th century woman's literature and just finished 2 papers on this while never having read any of the Bronte sisters stuff. And now I don't need to! Thank you Leena
@Emi8254
@Emi8254 2 жыл бұрын
I had to read this book over the summer in high school once, and we had to do a project of our own choosing to describe our experience reading it (it was supposed to be more exciting than just an essay). I decided to rewrite the lyrics to "American Pie", putting a summary of different sections in each verse, and then the chorus following it would explain my opinion. My opinion was very negative; I got more annoyed with the book the more pages I read. I can't remember all the lyrics, but the final chorus ended with "I've rhymed everything that goes with 'french fry', now I'll say, I don't like Wuthering Heights." My teacher gave me an A, too!
@piptig5327
@piptig5327 2 жыл бұрын
I read Wuthering Heights as a teen and loved it... I can't exactly remember why. I should re-read it before watching Emily, if only to see what was up with me as a kid.
@jennylomax1112
@jennylomax1112 2 жыл бұрын
If you want more Brontë-drama before Emily comes out, Sally Wainwright did a drama called To Walk Invisible which I loved. Lots of stuff on how different the sisters were but how they united due to their situation (aka violent alcoholic messy brother Branwell) - definitely worth a watch if you can catch it!
@heatherelliot6852
@heatherelliot6852 2 жыл бұрын
OMG. Thank you for making me feel sane.
@BettyAndersson
@BettyAndersson 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, this was so much fun! (And I love the The Guardian article with all the stats!) I haven't read this since I was 13 so I have no strong opinion on it today, but I remember not liking it at the time, which isn't very surprising seeing how dark it is 😂Anyway, since you've read both Jane Eyre and Wuthering Heights, you really should read something by Anne too if you haven't. The Tenant of Wildfell Hall is such an underrated book!
@xXWithoutMyHeroesXx
@xXWithoutMyHeroesXx 2 жыл бұрын
i didn't think to look for a sketch so i only understood the timeline and the relationships towards the end, Really love it tho! in a way, he ends up being Cathy's gift in the sense that he matches her in a way none of the others can, coincidentally, that means they're both insane. edit edit: the disconnect from the characters, the obtuse narration are all aspects that made me like it, but one of the Most interesting things is how Cathy behaves almost as a storm and a curse on everyone around her and not a victim, even when she dies in such a tragic way
@KarenSDR
@KarenSDR 2 жыл бұрын
I've read this book pretty much every year for over 50 years since I was 12. It started with the Laurence Olivier movie, which was actually something of a romance. That was on a Friday night. On Saturday I devoured the book in one sitting. It helped that my mom's copy of the book had very evocative, dreamlike illustrations. She warned me that the narrative structure might be confusing, but I navigated it fine. At that age I thought it was a romance. After a few years I realized it wasn't. So why do I keep coming back, when all the characters are so awful? Partly nostalgia for my childhood, and partly for the one "character" I do love: the moors themselves. This book is stored in my brain with another book I've read every year for about the same amount of time: "The Secret Garden". I first read that one at age ten, and it was in that book I learned the word "wuthering." Besides the moors and the wuthering winds, both books feature grieving fathers who have lost their wives in childbirth, a spoiled sickly boy who is soothed when his girl cousin reads to him, a dead woman whose ghostly voice calls her lover's name. And in both there is healing and light at the end. If I hadn't loved "The Secret Garden" first, who knows whether "Wuthering Heights" would have grabbed me as a kid, or whether I'd still love it half a century later.
@rhifri4398
@rhifri4398 2 жыл бұрын
I just finished Wurthering heights and I also just discovered your channel.. and I adore both btw
@MarjaCamargo
@MarjaCamargo 2 жыл бұрын
I almost threw this book across the room a couple of times while reading it. As you said, I know that not every character has to be likeable, but I hated everyone in this novel. LOL
@marshatolbert154
@marshatolbert154 2 жыл бұрын
Same 😒
@BronsteinEmily
@BronsteinEmily Жыл бұрын
At 59 I read Wuthering Heights for the first time recently. I enjoyed hearing about your experience reading it and laughed at some of your reactions as I could relate.
@vallentinac9513
@vallentinac9513 2 жыл бұрын
I found your video really interesting. This is one of the few books I've abandoned shortly after starting it, but I might give it another chance now with all these reflections in mind.
@sekaihatsu
@sekaihatsu 2 жыл бұрын
I also have never read it until three months ago. Okay, I tried to. Less than 70 pages in, I felt like I was reading in a dark room by candlelight. That's how dreary and dark the setting and tone were. That's how cold and unwelcoming the characters were. I barely got started and found myself having trouble reading in a brightly lit room. That's a lovely book cover btw. I've also never read Jane Eyer but heard positive things about it. I'm so glad I clicked on your video. No real spoilers and it's the push I needed to try to read it again. I may also try the audio book.
@mai.2001
@mai.2001 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve literally just finished reading Wuthering heights yesterday and i absolutely loathed it! Glad i am not alone!
@anerd8520
@anerd8520 2 жыл бұрын
You are delightful! I can’t wait to hear your opinion on the next book.
@krisnorvig6643
@krisnorvig6643 4 ай бұрын
Loved your take(s) on WH. I'm reading it for the 2nd time. 1st time I did what you did: audio book+book (Juliet Stevenson version). Had similar responses to yours the 1st read. I have to admit, I really like it the 2nd time through. It's just so cleverly written, shocking for its time, and remarkably that our mysterious Emily could have managed it. The 2nd time thru, the violence is even more egregious, if that's possible.
@sjblack9135
@sjblack9135 2 жыл бұрын
I JUST started teaching this to my students, so I’m incredibly happy to see this video!!
@nerdgirl8978
@nerdgirl8978 Жыл бұрын
One novel to recommend and that sticked in my mind long after I had read it was "The Thorn Birds" from 1977 by Colleen McCullough. It really good. Romantic book that also has a frustrating, annoying and stupid man as a love interest. The story is frustrating, but on the same time I was glued to it and couldn't put it down. It's about a young woman in the beginning of 1900 that falls in love with a Catholic Priest. He love her too but loves being a devoted priest too, and he tries to both "ceep the cake and eat it at the same time". ..I recommend it.
@Karibird22
@Karibird22 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video much more than the book itself
@sylvassasalladsbestick1342
@sylvassasalladsbestick1342 2 жыл бұрын
The best way for Heathcliff to get back at Edgar would be to put him through the absolute misery of reading Wuthering Heights.
@noelquentin57
@noelquentin57 2 жыл бұрын
I recently read WH for the first time. Like you, I never encountered it in school, even as a college major in English and Education. In my career I taught many classics but never this one, and am glad for that. I can’t imagine how young people today could enjoy the unnecessarily tangled plot and the cruel, stupid characters, regardless of their motivations and limited lives, plus the careless and frequent abuse of animals. Your explanations of your reactions to the book paralleled mine throughout! I, too, read some background and found the possible ethnicity of Heathcliff intriguing and the only aspect of the book I wished had been more developed. I’m glad I read it, but it was a dreary haul. I can check this off my list of “should read” books now. Thank you for your enthusiasm and insights!
@ContemporaryMeepsie
@ContemporaryMeepsie 2 жыл бұрын
I first read Wuthering Heights in high school for English Literature. We only read the first 3 chapters and I hated it so much I vowed never to read the whole thing. Skip ahead 10 years and as a gift from a friend I got a small list of 5 recommended books. Wuthering Heights was number 1 on the book and after a recent experience of enjoying a classic (something I had thought was unthinkable) I threw caution to the wind and got my book club to read it with me #miserylovescompany My thoughts were pretty much bang on with yours Leena, every single character in this book is horrendous, I didn't understand people who said it was a romance (it's a toxic relationship at best) and although I wouldn't say I enjoyed it there was something satisfying about reading it every night. Even if that was only so I could say I had read it. In the end I commended it because although I didn't 'like' the story, at least it made me feel something at all, even if that was hatred towards each and every character haha
@Rubz3211
@Rubz3211 9 ай бұрын
"One woman Catherine not to be confused with... Catherine" I'm crying 😭😭
@kristinehoejen6136
@kristinehoejen6136 Жыл бұрын
I love listening to your opinions on things, and I’m so happy you’re sharing ❤
@suzy8109
@suzy8109 2 жыл бұрын
I read "Wuthering Heights" at the age of 16 in High School because it was one of our set texts for English Literature class. I have never had the urge to re-read it in the last 20 years. Enough said I think.
@littleleafy
@littleleafy 2 жыл бұрын
As a 30-something who recently read Wuthering Heights, I just want to say I also hated every character. It was awful. I will never read it again. Yet I'm glad I have read it, mostly so I can say that I know how miserable the whole book is
@Gambole
@Gambole 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the shout out to the Cov ring road 🙌🏼😂
@violettecorre9900
@violettecorre9900 2 жыл бұрын
OMG i just finished Wuthering Heights yesterday !!! You are the best !
@caughtwithannette
@caughtwithannette 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this format!! More please! It might be because I had so many similar feelings reading it! Surprised you didn't touch on the young Cathy storyline, that turned it around for me abit more.
@staticprevails13
@staticprevails13 2 жыл бұрын
“I already hate everyone in this book. Everyone. No exceptions.” My exact experience with this book. Don’t get the love at all.
@roberta0
@roberta0 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. I couldn't finish it...
@emmaphilo4049
@emmaphilo4049 2 жыл бұрын
For me it helps me feeling less alone because I have dealt with co dependant crazy family members like Heathcliff, and they also became like that in part because of abuse, rejection and crappy childhood. It's a very unique book about the cycle of violence, I don't know any other like it
@viatrix03
@viatrix03 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. I made it only a few chapters before hating everyone involved and deciding they would all benefit from leaving the gloomy moors for the sunny seaside and making some new friends.
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