Why Do People HATE Jazz? (But Not Mario)

Almost everyone hates jazz, but why? David answers that question with a song: The Super Mario Brothers Theme Song. We'll talk about what makes music enjoyable to listen to, both rhythmically and harmonically, with some examples you'll probably recognize. And we'll play the Super Mario Bros Overworld Theme in three jazz styles: traditional jazz, latin jazz, and fusion.
Which style do you love the most? Do you still hate jazz? Let us know in the comments section below!
1. Intro [0:00]
2. Tension and Release [2:04]
3. Jazz Under The Surface [3:08]
4. Traditional Jazz Mario [4:27]
5. Latin Jazz Mario [5:34]
6. Fusion Mario [7:05]
7. A Jazz Musician's Secret [8:22]
8. It's Ok If You Still Hate Jazz [9:20]
9. Bonus: A Taste of The Rabbit Hole [10:12]
10. Traditional Jazz (No Melody) [10:44]
11. Latin Jazz (No Melody) [11:32]
12. Fusion Jazz (No Melody) [12:21]
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[@PayetteForward]

If you like this video, I'd really appreciate it you'd share it with your friends with the Share button. It's hard to get videos like this out there because KZbin doesn't expect a music video from a tech channel. I'm grateful for all of you who watched!

[@SeeCSeesCC]

❤ I taught my keyboard player about country and he taught me about jazz. Gave each other the best that our musical hearts had and we turned people on along the way. We would go to music stores while on the road and he would play Spain. He was phenomenal. We miss him so much. RIP my partner, eff fentanyl

[@PayetteForward]

Chick Corea was a big loss a couple years ago. He was truly one of the greats.

[@SeeCSeesCC]

@@PayetteForward I couldn’t agree more saw him at jazz Alley on the crystal silence revisited tour and sat right in front of him. During the intermission, he shook my hand after he left the bathroom lol. FYI, GARY Burton sets up and tears down his own vibes.

[@AagBoothBrothersTrioFan72]

This is awesome. I didn’t know you were a musician! I love jazz and love learning it! Thanks for the lesson! Awesome video! Would love to see more!

[@lancasternational2949]

My parents were successful song writers and I was exposed to lots of genres from zero. Hated my early piano lessons but left guitar and drifted back to keys after studying both at Berklee during the Stone Age when it was on Newberry and when there were still a few jazz greats teaching there. Most interesting in your notes is that when I was teaching at Third Street Music School I insisted that my students sing what they were playing whether on guitar, keys or bass. Same reasoning…if you can’t, you’re just playing notes for no-reason. For developing solo practice with young kids, I’d play a chord and allow them to choose only one note a measure to sing/play, then two, then lines. And used Bach quartets for sight reading in 4 to 5 guitar ensembles. Hard to fudge it if you aren't playing what's on the page. We had a pioneer in advanced teaching and music ed. on staff who used video recording to allow both student teachers and faculty to critique each other’s teaching. Humbling. Watching myself teach, I found that my ‘brilliant’ elementary percussion teaching was complete garbage and that my drum students had no idea of what I was trying to accomplish. More teachers should have that experience. Learn to get better or stop. My early years in NYC were subject to dinners at clubs where the current artist would either ask my folks to play or my mother to sing with them whether Shearing or Basie. To your subject on this post: found that lots of jazz artists at that time hadn’t learned the basic principles and that, when going to clubs, I‘d tired of endless solos by every member of the group who might or might not be on point that night but it was 'their' eight or sixteen and so it went. I still listen to a broad range of material but endless repetitions of a weak motif to fill in 12 tracks on an album will send me directly to the delete button. Lots of albums should only have been released with a couple of tracks. If you don’t have something to say……don’t. Others may not like what you did but it won’t be pointless. Thanks for opening the subject for those with different listening tastes. More needs to be said about every genre and on music structure in spite of all the KZbin experts teaching how-to-play better. There are a few really well-known presenters who you know that get it but more viewers should be seeing them.

[@PayetteForward]

This comment really means a lot to me. You probably know some of my musical influences from back then! And yes, the endless solos; the real book - most music isn't good. I grew up in a musical household too. And I'm just as opinionated as you. Since our opinions align, let's be friends. 😂

[@lancasternational2949]

The very first day of my first freshman class with John LaPorta he had us do two exercises. “Put down your instruments, get out a blank sheet of paper and notate the Star Spangled Banner.” Mixed results. Then….”write a sixteen measure solo: all quarter notes, all major, no skips over a major third, no skips across the bar-line.:” Endless moaning about ‘no where to go’ or ‘boring’. At the end of the exercise he took out his clarinet and played HIS solo. My guitar teacher was Jack Peterson who was teaching the only degree guitar jazz course at that time. Less than 400 kids in a school that was laser focused on "if you show up for a job against another, possibly better, player but you can also double on keys, arrange and do the session in fewer takes, who do you think will get the job?" Victor Wooten said something in an interview that was not true but very interesting "none of the current superstars came from Berklee". That was never the Berklee goal. It was to make you employable as a musician. @@PayetteForward

[@teriwilliams6746]

I so enjoyed this video. You are very talented and expressive!! Encore!! Encore!!👏🏽

[@allanlowe9346]

A man of many talents David. I have been into jazz since I was around 15 years old and used to have all my buddies hanging it on me for being such a nerd. I'd lay in bed after midnight listening to a jazz program on local radio in stunning mono. First record I ever bought was Dave Brubeck's Take Five. I enjoy most genres of jazz and all have their place depending on the mood I'm in at the time. Nothing better than to just lose yourself in the mood of whatever it is you are listening to. Now past my mid 70's and hearing all types of so called music on fantastic sound systems, it's a joy to be able to listen to and feel the atmosphere created by the jazz musician(s) playing. Thanks for such an enjoyable trip into your world of music and hope to see and hear more of this great stuff.

[@PayetteForward]

Me too! I remember being at a summer camp at age 13, listening to "Portrait In Jazz" by Bill Evans on my CD Walkman. I was not a popular kid. 😂

[@FernCurtis]

I like a wide variety of music, except for hard/acid Rock, Rap, Electronic, things on that order can just go away as far as I am concerned. I do like a small amount of jazz, but most of it is stressful to me and thus can just go away as well. I think the jazz I like would be called “smooth jazz” or maybe “relaxed jazz”. I could be wrong, but in my mind I think of it as being the kind that is played softly in a lounge or at a small dinner party where you want it to stay relaxed, where you definitely hear it, but it is just playing in the background and allows for conversation in a relaxed atmosphere.

[@PayetteForward]

I appreciate your input! What kinds of music / bands do you like?

[@HoffmanKurt]

Brilliant, David! You guys grabbed me with your iPhone tips, & this is like adding paprika to my chicken & noodles! ❤️ I grew up in a rural area, with mostly country music AM stations that went off the air at sunset. In 7th grade, the high school band went a professional symphony concert, where I heard Debussy’s ‘La Mer’ - & my life changed. Freshman year in college I met a guy who played jazz guitar, loved jazz, introduced me to music by Bill Evans, Wes Montgomery, & took me to see Miles Davis live in concert. The doors of my mind blew open. Then I saw Jen Luc Ponty. WOW! But I love Broadway music too! AND Lady Gaga (is there NOTHING she can’t do?) I like most genres of music (even opera), & what I don’t, is a matter of what speaks to me. Keep on surprising us! Thanks!

[@PayetteForward]

Oh, we're right on the same page! Bill Evans was my first influence. It's amazing how hearing a piece of music can change your life. It's happened to me a few times.

[@jtwattsmusic]

Love it. I love jazz, but I have absolutely no idea how to follow along! Am I just supposed to have the chords memorized, and then recognize the substituted chords as having the same function? Is it just a matter of keeping count with where we should be at this point? I'm absolutely lost, and it's a bit frustrating, because I consider myself somewhat knowledgeable in music theory.

[@PayetteForward]

Just the fact that you know about chord substitutions says a lot. I think it's simpler than that. It's about understanding the song with its original harmony, and then jazz harmony is often a different way to navigate it. The problem is that with great power comes great responsibility. It's easy to create tension, but very few jazz musicians take responsibility for each note and actually resolve them. Jacob Collier does it as well as anyone I've ever heard.

[@atticusofhyrule2678]

Awesome video!!! I don’t dislike jazz at all but it’s not something I actively go out of my way to listen to. I’m classically trained so it’s just a different style that I’m not as accustomed to playing. I have so much respect for the genre though and for the musicians who are good at it. This video was super informative and makes me appreciate jazz even more!

[@gregf9160]

Jazz is pure beauty. Poetry in motion.

[@voodoochile4147]

Well I wasn’t expecting this at all. It was great! 😊 Maybe consider another channel dedicated to music analysis? I absolutely loved it! I also love jazz, so the title sucked me right in. I am aware of those people who say it doesn’t make sense and I know why, but I loved the audio representations of jazz in different iterations over such a universally recognized melody. If you think you’re old, I got my Nintendo when I was 12. 😂 Nostalgic to say the least.

[@goldenrule1948]

Loved this vdo❣️Insightful. More please.

[@PayetteForward]

Thanks so much for saying so!

[@AbominationRealm]

Loved it. Awesome.

[@elizabethcountryman7820]

Great video, thanks for sharing. I wish I played an instrument. I love jazz, classical, alternative and 70 80 and 90. Again loved the video.

[@olmynuwen]

Mission half accomplished - now I understand more about why I hate jazz but still not sure why I am wrong. Great video though, clearly jazz is a passion of yours and it looks like you have some great kit there.

[@PayetteForward]

Lol! The kit is thanks to you! And mission accomplished! It's okay if you hate jazz. Thanks for watching!

[@terni12masfusion]

Wow! What a great surprise!!! I never would have thought you were not only a musician, but also a Jazz musician...Wonderful! Jazz to me, like classical music, is a pure art form. It has a large vocabulary, and if you don't get the chance to be exposed to it at an early age it's becomes difficult to appreciate it. Jazz is about expressing oneself through your instrument of choice, it's not about entrainment in the commercial sense. I could write for hours about this wonderful art form which I live daily. Thank you for you video!

[@antiquesrestoration3874]

What a fantastic video! I love most types of jazz. I fell in love with bossa nova as a result of Astrud Gilberto's "Girl From Ipanema" as a kid. She will always be one of my favorites. May she rest in peace.

[@PayetteForward]

A true talent!

[@uneek5336]

I love the key tar that’s so cool. This is the first I heard of it. I play flute but I love smooth jazz. Thanks for the video!

[@rikspector]

David, I am a musician and love jazz, have my whole life. It's good to see this differnt David, I thought your world was mostly techy stuff!. I play clarinet in a group that does a lot of standards and I often do jazz breaks. This is a great approach, teach people the basic melody and show where "Jazz" fits into it. In many cases, as you show, it's a matter of familiarizing them with the unfamiliar. Cheers, Rik Spector

[@PayetteForward]

Thanks so much, Rik!

[@ronggordon]

I wish I liked Jazz more than I do. My dad loved jazz - he was a big Louis Armstrong fan and I love that but it’s the jazz where that’s lots of things going on that I wish I got. I met a very successful rock musician once who was a bassist and I asked him who his favourite bassists were. I expected them to be other rock bassists but I’d never heard of any of them because they were all jazz musicians. I get the impression that a lot of rock musicians are frustrated jazz artists

[@nospam-hn7xm]

I am absolutely gobsmacked! I had no idea. Way to go, Dave!

[@saladcsar1137]

very usefull man thanks.

[@queenofgreen83]

I love swing or gypsy jazz, basically anything with a clear beat and melody, but anything that veers into the abstract is just stress-inducing noice.

[@PayetteForward]

I wouldn't want to listen to the stress-inducing noise genre either. Lol!

[@Crazyone419]

I didn't know that I didn't like jazz!!

[@brianburgess3231]

I like jazz .. but I'm older single white male .. so even though I'm saying this on a forest with no women around, I'm still wrong .. about that and everything else 😊

[@justtubingby129]

I used to despise jazz. It affected me like fingernails on the chalkboard. I used to try out instruments in a music store which I didn’t know how to play. I called my lack of skill 'jazz'. I don't know what happened but now I like it and it doesn't sound like random notes to me anymore 😊

[@Miami7]

Hi, what an interesting vid and you are so talented! A melodica, eh? My first time to be acquainted with this instrument. I may have to buy one, just because it looks and sounds like fun to mess with! I have never cared for jazz because it just sounds like a bunch of random notes. Our office used to party or even go to dinners after work and this is usually the kind of music that was in the background. It was just grating on my nerves until after about four beers, then it started sounding a little better. I never liked it because it wasn't something I could readily hum along with and never seemed to have an actual tune! I have played the guitar and ukulele for years so I have some music knowledge. I have perfect pitch and play by ear, can't read music. To play most rock kind of music, I just listen to it and then play it. I look forward to you making more videos like this. It's always fun to learn new things!

[@trichromatic5717]

Wow I had no idea you were into music I thought this was a techie channel. I do appreciate this though because I have been playing guitar studying music theory and this just expands my knowledge by the way I also like jazz and the old swing style music.

[@ogarvin7064]

For jazz you'll love, check out Tatiana Eva-Marie and her Avalon Jazz Band. Mostly 1930s-40s songs, mostly in French. All wonderful

[@kennethl4172]

Thanks David for changing up your volg. I attend my annual local Coastal Jazz Festival and I can understand why people don’t know some of the type of jazz. I am a big jazz fan and one of my favourite is a local jazz pianist Diana Krall. I would also relax to nice relaxing music of the Cuban jazz like Buena Vista Social Club.

[@PayetteForward]

Ah, good taste! Diana Krall is local? She's great. Seen her a number of times. A real, genuine talent, and a real musician. Buena Vista Social Club is also top notch and really a joy to listen to. Great calls.

[@kennethl4172]

@@PayetteForward Yes, I am in the Vancouver area in Canada. She is from Victoria, BC Canada.

[@michaelcolors]

Excellent video. I love the big band era, and created some playlists of the 'best of' of the most enduring band leaders of the day. On another note, I also love the 1960s era of Brazil's jazz music, specifically Tom Jobim, Astrud Gilberto and her husband, Elis Regina, and more. Samba is the genre. Amazing music! The best mood for summer and fall.❤💜🏋️

[@PayetteForward]

Love Jobim. If I could play guitar I'd have done something in that vein. Samba is wonderful.

[@michaelcolors]

@@PayetteForward If u want to hear the most exquisite jazz musician work: Verve. Summer Samba! Astrud Gilberto (on here at time of posting) Beyond her most famous song, there are many other selections to elevate you to a higher level! ❤

[@billynomates920]

what they did that was so ingenious was create a whole new urban type of music with just two turntables, two records and a microphone... my bad. that was jazzmatazz

[@lancasternational2949]

From the 'less is more' file: see if you like Valeriy Stepanov Acoustic Quartet - Morning Coffee (Live). Just posted. Been following him for years. Not particularly polished but interesting. Among the most fun, a duet when Chick Corea was visiting Moscow on tour and invited Valeriy on stage for a duet improv. 5 years ago.....the version that is <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="245">4:05</a> and shows them from the bench side of the piano.

[@thecacklingwitch]

Thanks!

[@kuya24]

Great music appreciation lesson. I did traditional jazz especially much more

[@kuya24]

Than fusion. What headphones do you use?

[@stefan5782]

For me , listen to jazz live is way moore better than from the radio 😉 Love Mario🙌 Best regards from Sweden

[@PayetteForward]

100%, jazz is great live, unless the band sucks. Lol!

[@friesencj1]

Grew up listening to my parent’s jazz preferences so I tend to enjoy Latin and classic jazz. I associate jazz music with family gatherings or cocktail parties of yesteryear. 😂 when the albums were stacked up on the stereo or on special occasions the instruments were dusted off - happened less as our parents aged. Stereotypical or reminiscent of a simpler time in my life.

[@PayetteForward]

Music brings back strong feelings like what you're describing! It's powerful - It's time travel!

[@jimcabezola3051]

I've adored jazz for decades! It forces me to think about what is being played. It's so engaging! I've enjoyed this video; it's a nice basic reference work on the subject of jazz. I also enjoyed that long, live show you did about making music in general. Perhaps there's a pivot coming up for you on KZbin? Hmm... I'll be here to watch! Aloha.

[@PayetteForward]

Many mahaloes to you! Perhaps there is :)

[@Imhere74]

Man, I didn’t know your place so good , you know I put you guys always thumbs up and every video, too bad I cannot put 10 of them in this one😊

[@PayetteForward]

Thank you so much!

[@ShortDuration1]

Whoa I didn’t even know you were a professional musician. Loved this video

[@Oli-Train]

I'm discovering a side of your talent and passion that I didn't know about. Kudos for this video 🫶🏻

[@iDigidude]

Wrong, we all don't love Super Mario Brothers! I grew up with Jazz, and have a seen in concert, and met many of the Greatest Jazz Musicians ever. One thing you brought up that all great musicians would agree on, is you should be able to sing songs, and that you should also hear the sound you want to create in your head. I blame people hating Jazz and many other genres mostly on the Recording Industry. They have been forcing a lot of garbage on the public for decades now. Rick Beato explains this well with his video "How Corruption and Greed Led to the Downfall of Rock Music" and really most music. A must watch. In addition, our so called "education" system has grossly under funded the arts.

[@PayetteForward]

Thanks so much for watching, but are you sure you don't like the Super Mario Brothers theme song? Rick Beato is great too.

[@iDigidude]

@@PayetteForward I really don't like the Super Mario Brothers song, but I do love Jazz.

[@AD-hs2bq]

I love smooth jazz but also electronics…. Actually just about everything except country

[@MLife1000]

Cool 👍

[@lunarose9568]

Great video. I’m one that loves jazz.

[@paul_domici]

Is there a setting on my iPhone where I can block all jazz music from ever playing?

[@PayetteForward]

You can always turn the volume all the way down 😂

[@ashwinters9315]

I like jazz. I actually find it quite relaxing.

[@uneek5336]

You really look like you are having soooo much fun and in your element enjoyjazzment

[@rossmarino7977]

I love all kinds of jazz at age 10 it just moves me🎷🎺🎻🎸🥁🎹🕺🕺🕺😚nice job on your video jazzman

[@PayetteForward]

Me too - I was exposed to it at a young age, but really fell in love walking down the hallway in 6th grade when I heard my music teacher playing piano. He is a real talent.

[@Omegaparsec]

ya know, this isn’t getting as much view as your phone videos but I really like this style!

[@amyhelman5162]

This is very interesting. But the reason I don’t like jazz is because it leads you to be calm and then 2 seconds later it’s got my emotions going nuts. Can’t handle it!

[@PayetteForward]

Lol! 100%, I hear you. Good jazz is gentle. This demo was kind of 0 to 10 - partially due to wanting to keep the songs short enough for a KZbin video.

[@NorthwoodsPiper]

I can’t stand trumpet noisy fast jazz😖 But smooth jazz like some classic Ella Fitzgerald, now that’s good stuff😊 Speaking of good, it’s nice to see you showcasing some of your other talents!👍🏼👍🏼

[@PayetteForward]

Trumpet noisy fast jazz, LOL! I had a teacher at school named Jon Faddis - his shtick is playing really, really high notes. He used to walk around wearing a hat with the text, "Into The Faddisphere." One time we were doing a recording session for a singer, and I was playing the accompaniment. He came up to me afterwards and said, "Where are you from, Dave?" I said, "Upstate New York." He said, "I bet there are a lot of white people up there." It stung! (He was saying I played jazz like a white guy)

[@MariaDiaz-we6uw]

Oh David I love Jazz!! 👏🏻👏🏻

[@andrewdotvalentine]

More of this please 🎺

[@PayetteForward]

Thank you so much for taking the time to write such an insightful comment! "If you're not playing for me, why should I listen to you?" - I agree! The whole applauding for individual jazz solos is a tough thing, especially if you're in a band and people clap for everybody's solo but yours. 😂 I could go on as well - thank you for watching.

[@andrewdotvalentine]

A channel I enjoy, branching out into 2 of my other favourite things - jazz, and Mario. This feels like a fever dream 🙂

[@MlleAdler]

@@PayetteForwardHaha! I went back a day or so later to listen and read comments again, and I think I found a reply here that was meant for my long missive further down the thread. I'm glad you read it and wasn't offended. Some one who playing is proficient and talented can be objectively appreciated for this, but if it's not attempting to reach me, I feel cold. Cheers!😸

[@shadgrind]

I mainly like Rock, heavy but not extreme AC/DC are my favorite band a lot of built-up tension waiting for release, I do like Country too and there are not a lot of Country lovers here in England however, my best friend loves it. Trad is or was my fave form of jazz, as The Beatles said ain't got no kick against modern Jazz, I do think after watching this video I may have a look at Jazz fusion. One of my 'out there' tastes is Frank Zappa, who had a musical talent of such breadth and depth, from avant-garde to classical even wrote symphonies! Opera is the one thing I just don't get, though I can pick a few from the three tenors that I do like and some of it really stirs my soul. I like most forms of music apart from that, rap, hip hop, house and some pop music, so long as some talent was used in making it, not just someone with autotune (which has its place, ask Cher) and a computer.

[@PayetteForward]

Opera is one of those things you really have to go to see in person to get, preferably at a smaller hall. (Not tiny, but not huge.) The reason is that the human voice does something in person that is just impossible to replicate with speakers - it creates an actual physical sensation inside your ears that's really like nothing else I've experienced. I like AC/DC too! :)

[@marinebrat1888]

The first song is "let it be"

[@PayetteForward]

Let It Be to Let It Go :)

[@MR2Davjohn]

Jazz is one of my favorite genres.

[@jls3220]

I love must jazz. Keep it up 🎼🎹🎺🎷🪘🥁🪈🎻🎼

[@reneebourgeois8181]

What happened to the guy you used to Payette Forward with?

[@wlh227]

Well now I better understand why I don't like Jazz.

[@billynomates920]

nice

[@Drysc]

A very informative video 👍. Thank you. I never liked jazz and i didn't know anything about it until i wathced this video .But now i can say, with a greater understanding, that i am not wrong.

[@k1ry4n]

Can we be right or wrong about what is essentialy personal taste?

[@PayetteForward]

When you're choosing a title for a KZbin video, I've found taking a firm stance is often most effective. :)

[@MrSlikvee]

I love Brazilian jazz even though I cannot speak a word of Portuguese.

[@dainius50]

Ima a Jazz Funker for many years

[@jls3220]

Ever listen to Bevo Valdez?

[@suhjamelconvi]

There are A LOT of Jazz styles I don't like. And that's fine. Other people like them. That's fine as well. I may be a person who likes composed music more than improvised most of the time. On the other hand I do improvise/modify songs I know and love. I even found a Jazz niche I definitely like - fusion. That's the thing almost nothing in this world is separated in black and white. Good for us when we accept and differentiate even on small details. Life is so much more than binary decisions and mindsets.

[@PayetteForward]

100%. I actually think jazz musicians could and should do more arranging - it's more work, but it opens the door to more interesting possibilities. Check out Jacob Collier, if you haven't.

[@mikes7070]

I miss the older tech stuff when there were two Davids.

[@jeffstratton9752]

you're a musician?? wow! Dave! You are awesome! I play four instruments; drums, bass ( primary) guitar and synths. Love Rush. I cut my teeth on them guys. You're just cool. Great attitude and personality. ( sounds like I'm hitting on you.) 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@davidmurling4252]

I love smooth jazz

[@GodAlmighty7]

Number 6 my favorite

[@kanzaki0001]

Jazz was hidden in the Peanuts holiday specials

[@PayetteForward]

Vince Guaraldi - I almost featured that as another example with Mario - that's real jazz, but he made it fun and accessible.

[@showmoke]

The greatest criticism that I've heard over the years is the generally jokey type of comment such as 'well this is all well and good, but when are they going to start playing the tune!!'

[@heatherg2083]

Jazz hurts my brain, and sends my body into agitation... feels like a pinball game gone awry. I had someone tell me that I just don't understand it 😕 It is what it is...some people dont like songs that I like/love (which hit the right spot)😊 I do love Blues, but not all that have the overtone/undertone ? of jazz.

[@PayetteForward]

Love it! Pinball Game Gone Awry - that's up there with Cacophony Of Chaos!

[@heatherg2083]

@PayetteForward I like that!

[@CrimeVid]

Sounds fine to me, can’t say I like “trad” but modern and early …

[@benjigirl1971]

I feel so terrible about this because you’ve put so much effort into this video, and you’re a great teacher. But even during the Mario bros song, it just devolved into chaos again. I hated it because it was just confusion and I was so lost. At least now I know the mechanics behind why I hate Jazz. You helped me with that.

[@PayetteForward]

I appreciate it! No need to feel bad! I appreciate you giving it a shot.

[@dwalk764]

For real! For real? Why do I feel like you are experimenting on us?

[@Imhere74]

Of course, my friend from like 1992 or something😂

[@samfisherkingv2t]

It's the harmonic minor scales.

[@PayetteForward]

You hate the harmonic minor scales 😂😂😂 - melodic minor is where it's at!

[@kem.1194]

i like jazz

[@showmoke]

A non-jazz drummer friend of mine gave his opinion on what a jazz drum solo entailed. He said that he saw it as the player hitting as many things as quickly as possible all at the same time! Well, I guess that's one way of looking at it. 🤣

[@PayetteForward]

That's the problem with asking drummers anything. 😂😂😂

[@KAT-dg6el]

Jazz and hard rock makes me feel like somethings shaking inside and I just want to scream .. STOP. I didn’t understand it until I read the book, Hidden messages in water. Not just certain sounds (young female squeaky voices like fingernails on a chalkboard) but certain lighting too.

[@PayetteForward]

Interesting! I just bought the book on Amazon.

[@NoWayOut-]

Jazz rules.

[@PayetteForward]

I think that used to be a password of mine... a long time ago.

[@ramosel]

I think it's just genetic... Like they now have determined that brussel sprouts genetically taste foul to some people (like me) and others love them. I think it's the same way with music. I like HEAVY Classical (Bach, Beethoven, Orff...) or Heavy Metal. And almost NOTHING in between... a little Blues. When Trance was popular, there was some Trance, 404/GOA that I'd listen too. Jazz, nah... annoying, irritating.

[@PayetteForward]

I don't think I've ever heard someone say they like Heavy Classical before! Awesome!

[@MlleAdler]

I like some jazz, but have found it has become tiresome when the instruments meander self-indulgently, as if begging for applause, like drum solos. Weirdly, in pop, standards, broadway, gospel, etc., I'm annoyed by excessive vibrato, belting, and similar self-indulgent meandering, similarly begging for applause. Many, many moons ago, in high school band when in orchestra I was flute, I was requested to help with jazz band, because "fingering" was the same, even though a different but achievable embouchure. I played(badly) for small concerts and school plays, but well enough with sheet music, but always failed the improvisational diversions when it was my turn. Even when playing in contests for electric organ (Hammond B-3 with a Leslie Speaker) my tunes were "Maple Leaf Rag" and Toccata and Fugue by Bach, and "Music Box Dancer" (I'm that old!) I played well enough, but always failed improvisational portion (thankfully behind closed doors!) So going back to "Sing, Sing, Sing" and "Drum Boogie" and into the early 50's I felt the music was expressive and exciting to listen to, inviting me in. But then it became a cult by jazz musicians, for jazz musicians, and if the masses liked it, it wasn't "real jazz". So.. I listen to "ersatz" jazz, denigrated by purists, historians, scholars, and musicians, that forget that for the vast majority of history, music was meant to entice and please the audience, and the musicians were gig workers or employed by patrons. If you're not playing for me, why should I listen to you?! My time, attention, and money in direct purchase of music or performances, or indirectly through subscription or ad-views supporting the playing of music is not a one-way transaction. Self-indulgence is not more "authentic" and "true" than inventive and expressive passages. Don't say you are playing "pure jazz" for yourself, and turn around and expect us to listen and applaud your variations of scales mid-tune. P.S. I think Rite of Spring is thrilling, even at the same time I like the Pastoral Symphony. Excellence in playing, technical brilliance, and emotional responses from the listener are my satisfactions in ALL music. And I find the various Voices of... and *** Got Talents painful to watch and listen when the audiences are duped by cheap tricks and applaud and give standing ovations to those who can't hold a true note, and disguise it with vibrato and scaling and belting long notes. Rant done! How did this happen?!😼

[@Bear-Knight]

Jazz that follows a single beat is music. Jazz that follows 3 or 4 beats simultaneously is not music. Jazz that refuses to follow a beat is not music

[@stevel9173]

Sorry still no idea what you are talking about. Still hate jazz. Guess I’m the wrong side of 70 to change. !!

[@PayetteForward]

Lol! No need to apologize. Thanks for giving it a shot :)

[@TimWil]

I frigging hate jazz. Most of it is just musicians and vocalists showing off.

[@saltypepper3340]

i dont hate jazz.

[@MlleAdler]

Alright, #12 the final digression was pointless and unsatisfying. 😼

[@PayetteForward]

Thanks for watching the whole video though!

[@MlleAdler]

@@PayetteForward You made it, so I should do the courtesy to watch. 😸 I hope you've read my LONG reply with my history with music, as I do not discount the skill of the playing, or the rightness of some people liking it. I would only hope that YOU understand that it IS liking, and not a value judgement. The contempt I feel coming from some performers and fans is off-putting. I am not an ignoramus or philistine for preferring order. I am NOT less than them. I am different in my likes, and THAT IS NOT WRONG! Thank you😸

[@petercasserly245]

As soon as it went to jazz, the video is unwatchable 😂 sorry

[@PayetteForward]

You must not have watched much, lol! Thanks for trying. :)

[@amandasteven1400]

nah... IHATEIT and i'm not wrong :)

[@PayetteForward]

Lol!

[@ellina9816]

It’s boring, primitive and has no melody

[@PayetteForward]

😂. If you can sing it, it has a melody, and I can sing the Mario theme song. I appreciate you watching the video though!

[@Tech_Monster54]

Why do you always look angry and tense?

[@Imhere74]

Actually, some jazz I really cool 😊 but rap, rock I mean have metal crap that’s really disturbing it disturbs your mental and emotional stage, the demonic lyrics hahaha 😂,,,,,,,,, But the jazz and the blues is not

[@pluraltest9242]

Sorry I still hate jazz

[@PayetteForward]

That's okay, we still like you! :)

[@LKMNOP]

Modern jazz just seems to be a solo player playing scales for 20 minutes. Boring. Actually most of jazz is boring

[@thesnowflakesaremelting1016]

I’d have to agree, I can’t listen to jazz at all period. It’s got no flow, I need a beginning a middle and an end, it just sounds like a bunch of people doing their own thing at any given time, just a mish mash of garbage

[@nz605]

@@thesnowflakesaremelting1016 thats the feeling I get from synthwave

[@PayetteForward]

You sound like my Grandma. David, a good song needs a beginning, a middle, and an end. And smile more!!!

[@LKMNOP]

​@@PayetteForwardWho's David and what do you mean smile more? And why do you think I'm female and old enough to be your grandmother? Your remark makes no sense whatsoever.

[@cactaceous]

Yeah, tell us you really don’t know anything about “modern jazz”. Go listen to Comet Is Coming and Sons of Kemet and get back to me. You’ll delete your comment.

[@jfitzpatrick6108]

I must admit, I view as questionable anyone who can't appreciate jazz, and doubt their ability to comprehend nuance and to sift through ambiguity.

[@ramosel]

I'll respectfully disagree. I'm an intensely Right Brained person, retired product development engineer. I made a career out of nuance and spotting and correcting audible, visual, visceral nuance. But by the time I get to my music of choice, I don't WANT something I have to comprehend... by choice. I just want it to make my foot tap. I started my working life as a fighter pilot. A very intense environment you have to be immersed in to be any good at. But you have to learn when/how to turn off that comprehension and just be. I don't hate Jazz. I certainly don't have any issue with people who like it. I just don't want to listen too it. For me, it's annoying, irritating. If you were a friend, I'd probably go into a record store and ask for help selecting some good Jazz records for you... or buy you tickets to a Jazz performance... but I wouldn't want to go with you.

[@PayetteForward]

As a fighter pilot and product development engineer, I would imagine intense focus for short periods of time is a requirement. Jazz is a lot of letting go and allowing yourself to be carried. And if the musicians stink, they can carry you somewhere unpleasant, to say the least. We're friends.

[@masentaja8344]

Jazz is horrible.

[@sillystuff6247]

this is the kind of video that make me unsubscribe.

[@RockyRZ]

Jazz is mid.

[@PayetteForward]

At least it isn't the NPC of the music world. 😂