Why Do Pros Have 2 of the Same Spell on Bars?- Macro Tips & Guide - Cdew - Cdews & Cdonts #3

[@cdew]

EPISODE 3! Macros! You can find the document from the video in the video description! You wouldn't believe how often I get asked the title, the basic run down is, to keep UI clean and it's easier to see spells etc. BUT, be sure to watch the entire video, lots of great info and Macros (with tips ofc)! Thanks for watching be sure to hit that LIKE if you enjoyed the video.

[@Knator19]

Method Cdew hey man quick idea, I think it might be pretty cool if you got a couple subs to get in a war game with you not to actually play but to show everything in action for another video? Just a thought love the series

[@LogRobin]

Method Cdew I got some questions for the next video. Maybe you could answer them in the next video: 1. Do addons influence the frame rate or cause lag if you use to much or to heavy? (F.e. should I disable my PvE addons for better performance in arena). 2. Are you allowed to use addons on the arena cup? 3. And to what extent can you customize your UI on arena LAN?

[@Elastoplasty]

Cursor macro just blew my mind. Great guide.

[@stee1402]

Hey Cdew, Think you could upload that document onto a Google Doc and post the link? Thanks!! These videos are fantastic.

[@gregjones2268]

why make so many copies of macros to fill up your bar? when you just make a modified macro to use 1 slot and just shift ctrl or alt?

[@enigmachine]

16:47 for the (full(er)) answer to the title's question.

[@skatedestroy1216]

thank you!

[@Timosaurus48]

What a strange reason for it.

[@Elocess]

Thanks for combating the clickbait

[@drumlineking07]

To me that doesn't make any sense.... I'd rather have it show whatever ability I'm using

[@PaulaJBean]

Cracka_Bob I agree. Why have the cyclone look like a barkskin. It would confuse me, certainly not a 'clean UI'. (For a cleaner UI, remove the gryphons and useless borders on the action bar)

[@ferguson005]

There's an addon that is really good for macro newbies and veterans alike. It has all the options for conditions in a drop down list that will be able to be inserted into a macro, and also does syntax highlighting, so if you make a mistake while typing out a macro, it is easy to troubleshoot. It's just called Macro Toolkit

[@DembaiVT]

For anyone thinking 'i don't pvp' focus and party macros are amazing for PvE as well. One macro that I love is to set my focus on the offtank and when he picks up a target that I need to switch to use a target of target macro to snap my spells to that new mob that spawned. Because my focus is always on the offtank whether the mob is alive or dead I don't have to worry about resetting my focus or misclicking. I'd need to check to be sure but I recall on my rogue when I was slowing adds my macro was /settarget focus; /cast [targetoftarget] poisoned knife This would switch me to target my offtank...but made me attack his target. This can be even more effective with fully ranged classes allowing you to swap between targets without having to click on them.

[@Ryan_hey]

Technically you no longer need focus macros. Blizz built in Focus target keybind as a modifier, so you can set a button like SHIFT as your focus modifier, and then hit your keybind for a button and instead of applying that to your target, it'll modify its application to your focus target. It's freed up so many action bar slots now because I can any single one of dozens of keybinds to my focus target.

[@faytherogue1708]

Dude, before I even get through this video, I want to thank you for this series. I'm actually an older player, but not fantastic at this or any game, just competitive. Back when I played wotlk, I hit 2100 and that was as far as I could go and I never did reach there again. I never truly understood keybinds and macros, but was just good enough to beat people at that point in time. I can't state enough how much I appreciate you going into depth explaining how you really play the game, it's inspired me to really try to PVP again and see what kind of progress I can make. Thank you.

[@Zamix69]

Keep it up dude. Once you knock the rust off and re-learn the basics like keybinds, macros, etc, progress will show. All just learning about what your comp should do vs another comp, and so on. Good luck

[@Nga_Babaye]

Same boat man. Best of luck. When I was younger I didn't need macros and was in the 2000+ ratings in WotLK and Cata. I had exceptional muscle memory and memory and combat reflexes, real life and in game. As I got older and focused more on my military career my body got the shit beat out of it. Now I'm retired and want to PvP 7 days week, but some of these guys are so awesome with these macros I can tell when someone is using them well.

[@Digzitify]

I totally feel you. Was in the same boat back in TBC. Nowadays I'm doing quite fine without macros. I feel so old and naive for not wanting to use them, haha.

[@Verticom10]

Dont worry, players that dont cheat with macros and excel are real players(as they literally play). It makes you play the game, not have a few buttons (keybinded to anything n everything) smashed mindlessly somewhat while you are only considering your LoS.

[@dedompler]

or you played DK

[@Zamix69]

YO DUDE sick video. Not surprising coming from the DEW. Started these series as a 1200 Balance now im 2600CR and got laid last night. THANKS BRO

[@cdew]

You clearly not doing any Cdonts ;)

[@thomash3557]

someone let jahmilli out of his cage

[@damjan6080]

You rly started at 1200??? o.o Im 1K9 with 2 macros and no binds for targets, but im gonna use it, thx alot Dew :D

[@damjan6080]

Eyas Abdul nop i play fire mage ^^ and looking for push next season in mw^^

[@keke3388]

2500 ret here... how the f do you play without key binds haha

[@The_Azure_]

As a Hunter, there is one @mouseover macro I find invaluable, even in PvP (Battlegrounds). /petattack [@mouseover][] As it sounds, it tells your pet to attack whatever you have your mouse hovering on. I have it bound to middle mouse button and haven't went without it in the last 4+ years. Last I checked, it does not work with Warlock pets.

[@HypnoticRhythmm]

I appreciate these guides a lot! You do a great job of laying out WHY you are doing something, which is the most important aspect.

[@aidenzoray3716]

I was going to type 2-3 lines, but ended in an essay...... To use less space in a macro (get room for more text in one macro), write the macros like this: /use [@focus]Purge /use [@focus]Wind Shear /use [harm]Purge; Wind Shear 1. Use "use" instead of cast when available. 2. use @ instead of target= 3. Dont have space between the brackets and the spell name 4. When having helpful and harmful spells.. its overkill to have "harm" and "help" in the same line - and yes, you can use non-targeted spells - use harm if its not aoe first, or help first if its a aoe heal. Usually its neither and harm is best practice to use.. If both are aoe/nontarget spells you have to decide what spell ex /use [help]Rejuvenation; Thrash This will always cast rejuvenation if u are currently targeting a friendly player, and ALWAYS cast thrash if u're not targeting friendly player. /use [harm]Moonfire; Wild Growth This works the other way around. Translated into speech it's like "Use moonfire on harmful targets, but wild growth on everything else" The ONLY reason to write macros with both help and harm, is if u don't want riptide to be cast on yourself if u have no target. /use [harm]Purge; [help]Riptide People used to write macros like this: /use [harm]Purge; [help][@player]Riptide - DON'T DO IT LIKE THIS and /use [harm, exist]Purge; Riptide - DON'T DO IT LIKE THIS which is now achieved by simply: /use [harm]Purge; Riptide - THIS IS THE WAY It works like this because how the "code" is interpreted by the compiler. Checks every statement between the ";" front to back, and if it yields, it will execute it and scrap the rest of the line. If your want 1 button for talent rows (or different), do it like this: /use [talent:1/1]spellname; [talent:1/2]spellname; [talent:1/3]spellname Where the first number represents the position from the top and second represent its position from the left: Ex a Frost DK on 100 Tier is the 7th tier from top and spell 1, 2 , 3 /use [talent:7/1]Obliteration; [talent:7/2]Breath of Sindragosa; [talent:7/3]Hungering Rune Weapon Remember it WILL YIELD to the first that matches it condition from left to right. PVP talents work the same way - just type "[pvptalents:x/x]" instead Cdew have an error "/cast [@party1,harm] Purge" It should say @arena1, cause party1 can never be a harmful unit (except mind controlled or whatever but I don't think that is the intention. Happy arena!

[@random-access-youtube6812]

Thx man, I’ve always had an issue with lots of spells and not enough correct macros whenever I played arena. I knew of some of these but never found the line wording. This answered many assumptions I had about what some macros involved. Much appreciated.

[@DennisVlaanderen]

Mouseover with unclickable raidframes are brilliant for healing. Instantly right click to turn and all the benefits of mousing over

[@sylence7808]

Honestly man someone should have done this series a long time ago! Thank god your the one doing it. The way you explain everything to great detail is amazing. Thank you for taking the time to do this very well.

[@Diavolo222]

Seems strange that he does this now in Legion when there is the lowest amount of arena player ever in the game, compared to other expansions. Tho I'm guessing back in the day, youtubing wasnt that popular and most guides were "How to farm this or how to kill this boss". There were some arena shit going on but nothing major and definitely nothing of this high quality from a top end player.

[@Rex_Smashington]

Yeah like Blizzard. Such massive barriers to arena that aren't in the game. Need to go read a Wikipedia to learn things that should be explained in game.

[@misguidance10]

those talent swap macros are just what i needed it. i had try to make'em, but never could get it right for disc and boomy, i had one script that works for totems, but for anything else. thanks so much, man!

[@manuelhuber9879]

Hey Cdew, i just started watching your videos and i want to drop a big compliment! I appreciate your knowledge and your seriousness.

[@chill9871]

small thing that is missing (kinda usefull for resto druids and hunters) are the /cast [@player] macros. druid example: if you have melees on you and you want to get away you can use /cast [@player] ursols vortex, which would drop ursols vortex directly ontop of you without you having to move the courser ontop of yourself or clicking with your mouse. also works for totems, starfall, traps, flare, binding shot and other things of that nature. great video dew.

[@mera8785]

chill9871 sweet. Thanks. I always find ursols vortex so clunky to use when I really need it.

[@gavinhislop]

Boom, that Ursols tip is damn good!

[@mottenschreck1204]

Would this work on other players aswell? So that I, let's say, drop my AMZ onto my healer?

[@chill9871]

i actually dont know that. i know that you cant use it for enemy players. for example you cant use /cast [@arena1] freezing trap. you can try if /cast [@party1] anti magic zone, works

[@mottenschreck1204]

thanks for your reply mate, I will do some tests later :)

[@andrewshandle]

For those getting into classic and play a Rogue, the Mouse Over macros are great for Blind and Sap because you won't lose your current target and drop any Combo Points you've generated. Probably best to include a /stopattack in there too just to be safe.

[@mera8785]

Thank you! I've been looking for so long for such an in depth macro guide. You're the best CDew.

[@DefensorsPacis]

Pro's usually have a better looking interface than default Blizzard UI, too. I have have WeakAuras tell me when I need to do what so I can focus on doing everything else. As for focus macros, I just have a single macro with shift or alt modifiers in them for focus/arena1/arena2/etc. This lets me use only one of every button, thus leading to higher visibility since there are less buttons clogging up my screen.

[@denisstarikov8074]

Thank you Cdew! for the series, you made my wow experience to the next level. I already was multiglad but now I got some new information that will boost my skill

[@HeathB]

I would just like to ad that if youre comfortable with targeting your party with keybinds already to dispell or heal, having 3 separate macros for them is not necessary. Dispell is on the global, so you can change targets while the global is ticking and not lose any downtime healing your target. It adds extra buttons IMO

[@spencerpalladino2604]

This is insanely helpful. Can't believe I haven't been taking advantage of this stuff in arena. Earned the sub

[@nybzie4324]

You deserve more comments, views, likes, and subs! Much love, bro. You've severely helped me improve my restoshaman gameplay! Thank you!

[@Ryan_hey]

Technically you no longer need focus macros. Blizz built in Focus target keybind as a modifier, so you can set a button like SHIFT as your focus modifier, and then hit your keybind for a button and instead of applying that to your target, it'll modify its application to your focus target. It's freed up so many action bar slots now because I can any single one of dozens of keybinds to my focus target.

[@mzkreator]

The multiple ability macro is a KILLER!! Love it!!!

[@Verticom10]

Neptune Dreams kills the game aspect you mean

[@bent13ways]

Thanks bud. Great info in here. Scripts have always been tough for me. Very helpful.

[@christianadam7740]

Insanely great Video. Literaly a few minutes before watching the video I was annoyed by the fact there was no "cast at cursor" command. Your video saved my life

[@reisei1]

I'm almost sure the moseover and cursor macros serve the same purpose. I used to have a mouseover macro back in Wrath to quickly cast Mass Dispel

[@spicytauren]

Wow great video. I've never been much of a PvP player but this actually makes me want to give it a go thanks buddy :)

[@opx999er]

omg...the help/harm macro just freed up so many keybinds I had. Forever gone the days of missed keystrokes on my shaman

[@mikecamden]

Didn't know about the cursor and talent options. You showed me something new. Here's a like in return.

[@random-access-youtube6812]

I think I commented before, but I've been following you for a few years and I always love that youre a top player, and until super recently the only killer on sham. I like lock rdruid and rsham, I really love my sham, and you gave me hope cause ppl always want to boot you from group or something depending on phase of game. Thank you for sharing these parts, because I was having a tough time finding things like this and I'm really trying to do arena and get better this year to get a mount but also not suck and be competent and able to play with others or just anyone and save time. I waste a lot of time and some better keybinds and macros would be nice instead of me getting finger tied.

[@defelion]

there are some of those macros you could like the dispel instead of having 3 you could use [@mouseover] so you can just hover your mouse over what ever you want to use it on i use that funktion on all my heals it makes me able to get heal out to my full team faster like keeping rejuvenation active on a 5 man team

[@Asmodeius]

for any one who is watching this video late into BFA. the last macro, coockie cutter doesnt work for most things any more however there is still use. same make however, last ability to be used can have global CD. this works well with on use trinkets (they have no global) plus racials (like orc racial) they also have no globals CDs.

[@tiagoosinalde1635]

Awesome video man... Exactly what ive been looking for a while. Keep up with the good job!!

[@dkay6557]

Really, really well done Cdew. I really enjoyed the video. Usually don't leave comments, but you did such a good job I wanted to let you know. I see you're streaming right now, will probably comment there as well. Have a nice day! P.S. Liked and subscribed. ;)

[@ovis-oviscast5519]

Love this series! Watched this probably 4 times now...

[@Lazik10]

you can also use /cast [@arena1] wind shear instead of [target=arena1] if you need to save some space in macro, works with focus and party1 and so on

[@The_Azure_]

Someone further in the comments wanted a macro the could utilize the [help]-[harm] commands while also being able to direct a self heal if needed. Figured I'd put this in a slightly more visible spot as a new comment just in case. /cast [help,mod:shift,@player][help,nomod]Riptide; /cast [harm]Flame Shock; #showtooltip Riptide (The spells are of course inter-changable, however what comes after #showtooltip will be the default icon/tooltip on the bar) One major downside however, it requires a modifier key. If you want to use this on hotkey E, the self-heal requires that shift+E be completely unbound. Meaning it can't even be bound to an empty action-bar... If anyone has knowledge to fix this aspect, or even just to tidy the code up, I'd really love to see it fixed.

[@DaneDillon]

Wow Dew I didn't know about the help/harm possibilities! Awesome vid brother!

[@patrickwhent61]

Thank you so much for putting in the time to go through all this. I thought I had a great concept of macros, I capped out at 2200 a few seasons ago and I definitely got a lot out of this video. Priest can dispel mind control dam son I've been so blind! Cheers bud!

[@codysewell4775]

Hey, if you want some more useful information, I could copy and paste a comment I left for him that talked about a lot of things he didn't mention that I find some of which ESSENTIAL

[@patrickwhent61]

Cody Sewell sure man that would be appreciated

[@codysewell4775]

Most of the things here I'm seeing could be a bit more modernized. And you seem to not know a few other things entirely. A quick non-mattering one is that /use can be used in place of any /cast, because it does literally the same thing with one less character but that won't matter for most. @anything replaces target=anything. If you use the @ sign, the game will target whatever comes after @ which is another character and time save but isn't functionally different so it's still a nitpick mod:anything is something that is VITAL that you don't appear to know about. If you use a [mod:shift] conditional you can specify that specific thing to ONLY happen when you hold down shift. In this video, it would preserve literally HALF OF YOUR KEYS considering you have a key, and their shift counterparts bound everywhere as separate buttons. You can also have mod:ctrl or mod:alt. Specifying a target is something you can do for any aoe spell from totems to flamestrikes to healing rains. It will cast with the center of the aoe at the feet of whomever you target and can be useful sometimes. Using brackets specify how and when you'll cast anything SEPARATELY. For example, you could have a single key be bound /use [mod:shift, @arena1] [mod:ctrl, @arena2] [mod:alt, @arena3] Entangling Roots And that SINGULAR key could cast entangling roots at any of the three targets depending on whatever button you're holding at the time (The blank [] at the end of your focus macro is also the reason it casts on your target when you don't have a focus. IT IS NOT THE EXIST CONDITIONAL DOING THAT) Finally, using a semicolon lets you fit in different spells in the same macro under different conditions. You might've gleaned this from a the help/harm macros but it could be used in different ways than just that, for example, if you wanted to generalize nothing, shift, control, and alt being a progression of low, medium, stronger, and cooldown kinda things, you could macro that like /use [mod:shift] Vivify; [mod:ctrl] Sheilun's Gift; [mod:alt] Life Cocoon; Effuse That macro alone can combine 4 spells into ONE KEY. I hope to hell you read this, I'd love to help you out a little there, man!

[@jonny7407]

Hey chuck, thanks for these guides I really enjoy them and I’m learning a lot. Could you possibly make an add on video as well? That’d be great. Keep up the good work and congrats on the kid coming soon :D

[@cdew]

Saw an article about videos not going to subscriptions page on KZbin? Did you guys see this video there? To be sure to not miss out enable notifications beside the Subscribe button and you'll get a notification to the top right whenever I upload.

[@DarkerDelve]

Just catching your series now, but on behalf of all new players trying to improve in pvp, thankyou

[@4tounces]

he's just so reasonable about everything.... makes it easy to take your advice, bruh!

[@johndelacruz4214]

For anyone using the Talent swapping Macro be sure to choose the question mark (?) symbol as your icon otherwise the talent will not show on your action bar. Awesome video Cdew Thanks!!!

[@brewtank6738]

Another great video. I need to start using one of these macros for my Druid for the phat dispel on hex with one key!

[@piotrptak2538]

Hey man, where's the 4th episode of the series? I'm loving it so far, can't wait!

[@Sonadourge]

I tried using the help/harm macro, found it a bit buggy at first where it didn't seem to work as intended then later figured it didn't act the way I wanted it to I took one of your other macros to sort of combine them so it works more like when you press the individual keys #showtooltip Tiger Palm /cast [harm] Tiger Palm; [target,help,exists] []Effuse What I found was it wouldn't cast the help ability on myself unless I was targeting myself while normally the individual ability should cast on yourself without having to actually target yourself Some of the bugs or at least what seemed like them I happened to encounter before was this macro just not doing anything /cast [help]Effuse; [harm] Tiger Palm I tried to copy it as best as yours was and then got it to work after I think pressing effuse and tiger palm individually, I'm not too sure why these macros work like this but it was just pretty unclear at first and I just wanted to explain my confusion and how I attempted to solve it

[@NoxTM]

Those help/harm macros are pretty sick. Thanks alot!

[@cptnzolof2850]

I'm late to the party but I use grid and clique for arenas and I wanna swap over to moving to macros. I can confirm that, like mouse over macros, this screws with your movement a lot.

[@Slanozertu]

Awesome video Cdew, loved the talent switch macro I need that

[@vexdali388]

really helpfull video, thanks man. I always wanted to start pvp-ing but had no ideea where to start

[@kiwiixisolate4518]

Best WoW educational pvp series of all time. Keep it up man, this is fantastic l!

[@rosco3]

Great video, would be nice to have a timestamp for which type of macro you're talking about on the description/comments.

[@Rehvidepaigaldus]

Ahaa thanks cider-w! I clicked the spells from the spell book but now with these MACROS im pushing glad this season! Love

[@mustaphajaveed6394]

Excellent video and great series every video has been very useful so far. While i do like the @ cursor macros for totems i fidn that you can miss the radius of the totem because you dont see the reticle. You need to see the circle for cap totem for example to see if you're going to hit two people that being said if you dont need the accuracy to 100% or if you are just really good at estimating, then its great

[@MrBaloud]

Quick idea : instead of making one macro spell ( thus having 2 versions of your spell in your bars) why don't you configure a modifier key so that when you press it, the target of the spell will be your focus. ( works the same as self spell casting with alt by default )

[@brandonfontaine285]

The thing I find difficult is laying all my abilities out and making a keybind that is easy to press and easy to remember.

[@MrJamedawg]

This is awesome you took time to explain this for people! you did a great job too

[@stonecold5373]

Macro is required to effectively keep max up-time on Judgment for Holy Paladins. Focus macros are amazing.

[@kermittkerrr7071]

my question is .. where do u put all those macros in keybinds when u already have binds for all ur abillitys ... i need a third hand...

[@undead7816]

thomas Kera according to comments it seems like people have mouses with shit tone of buttons

[@slykeren8371]

To have a arena123 macros you need an accessory for more binds

[@enemyuav8809]

undead 78 yes.....I personally own the Razor Naga 2015.....has around 12-15 buttons all within your thumbs reach

[@Verticom10]

Simply put: macros almost eliminates human error, you got 'x' buttons that happen when they have to (situationally even) with one button press, the only thing you gotta worry about if line of sight and avoiding abilities.

[@guntisjursevskis9519]

how u make PvP talent macro now. when there is no more rows, but all are in list in patch 8.0.1

[@toxickremedy]

I think you making these so frequently will help this series really take off. Once you get your viewers hooked you can slow the content a bit since they will feel comfortable with trusting that it's quality. Great job. Keep it up.

[@cristians.batista2374]

Thanks for this cdew, for us pvpers this is PURE GOLD

[@Pcmanx19]

How do you set a focus target exactly? When I click on a player all I get is the one target frame, but not the other? Been looking in my settings, and I can't seem to find anything?

[@garrett428]

With all these keybinds how do you not run out of spots on your action bars? I've got all my action bars on display on my screen, they're ALL filled and I use less binds than you do.

[@IvanMana]

wait what? I thought reason why you have several of the same spell on your bar because of the shitload of macros, ie heal arena 1, heal arena 2, heal self macro? where do you then manage to place all those spells? and how the hell did you manage when 5s was a thing?

[@IamNemoN01]

Where do you place all those spells? I use an Orbweaver with a Naga. I have one button on the Orbweaver as a modifier for the Naga. Just push that button and it switches or toggles all the Naga buttons over to a new set. That second set is nothing but PVP macros. This gives me over 24 buttons on the Naga alone (my normal set and a PVP set). Plus I have over 20 buttons on the Orbweaver that I can also double with the click of a button. Together with the scroll wheel and the side buttons on both devices, this gives me a approximately 70 spells at my fingertips (and I could potentially double that number as well). The more you use them the more they become second nature. That is how I manage to place all those spells. The Orbweaver/Naga setup is superior to keyboard bindings. Keyboards were invented and designed to type LETTERS & WORDS. It was invented when video games weren’t even an idea. People have adapted keyboards to gaming only as an afterthought, when there was no other options. Peripherals like the Orbweaver and Naga were invented/designed for the select purpose of dominating in video games. If you don’t want to use such devices “because blah blah blah”, then just continue to be dominated by those who do.

[@jamesh7876]

IamNemoN01 while you make a good point, and I do agree that an orb weaver may be superior after getting used to it, I’d still argue that certain keyboards may be even better. Depending if they have buttons to the left or above the QWERTY row, other than numbers, how convenient the ctrl and alt keys are to press while hitting another button, and your own muscle memory on being able to ctrl+press other keys nearby the wasd keys are important. You can get a lot of macros out of 1-4 and qeszx let alone extra keys, or with longer fingers that can hi f and c or further plus addition buttons to the left of the qaz row. Given the nature of ctrl and alt you can program just as many buttons as you would have on a game pad, and retain the muscle memory you’ve built your entire life using a computer.

[@jonathanowens2657]

@@IamNemoN01 damn! You're the first I've heard talk about the Naga. Rhe second I saw it I knew how much of game changer it would be! And damn it has been. Can never go back to anything else. Never having to take your eyes off rb screen and the speed at which an can cast or start spamming a new ability before it's off cooldown is shocking. Oddly, I've shown all my friends and coworkers that play MMO's and they all agree they couldn't possibly get use to the Naga or that they don't see it being beneficial in any way. Blows my mind!!!!!

[@IamNemoN01]

James H Each to their own, right? :) However, in my experience, playing on a modified “gaming keyboard” is tantamount to putting a spoiler on an SUV and expecting it to be able to keep up with the Supercars. The supercar is designed to go fast. . . Even putting your hand on an Orbweaver, it’s like sitting in the seat of a high end sports car where the seat is molded to fit your body - unlike a keyboard that is flat, the Orbweaver is contoured to your hand, which is not flat. As far as there being keyboards out there with extra keypads on the side. Yes those can be good. But they suffer from the same problem as the game-specific peripherals - the average person doesn’t see why they’re any better than their standard keyboard. They can’t see that having keys in a straight line is more ergonomic than staggered keyboard keys. So while you’re right that those keyboards give one an advantage, most people will still argue that it doesn’t matter. But most of those people also don’t know what a macro is, so I suppose the entire argument is moot.

[@jamesh7876]

IamNemoN01 Id argue the staggered nature of standard keyboards really isn’t that big of a deal. The lack of buttons is the deal breaker. Not having an extra top row or anything left of qaz is what bothers me. Ctrl and alt can really change the game though. My interrupts used to be C, crown control ctrl-c, depending on the class. It makes sense to me to overlap certain spells using the same key with a different use

[@bloodknightbob]

New to arenas and you've been a huge help! Thanks for sharing man :)

[@tomselby24]

great job explaining focus macros!!

[@bradmills713]

Did they change the fact you have to capitalize spell names? If not you have to in your actual macros. Make sure spell names first letter are capitol.

[@ProfitWord]

learned a lot from your streams cdew keep up the great work brotha

[@seal869]

This is really good content. Bring it back! Also do you do classic? would love your thoughts on pvp specific to classic if you have any

[@orleansgac4088]

Quick question for you Cdew. If you include your modifiers ( shift, alt, etc) how many keybinds do you have total. I feel like I am running out of space and I don’t have these dispel party1, 2, etc.

[@Klyptic]

Really helps if you have a mouse with a good amount of buttons on it. My mouse has 12 buttons on the side not even including shift/ctrl modifiers.

[@cstevey]

The mouse with extra buttons is the biggest factor. I have the naga 2015 edition which has 12 on the side and 2 extra on the top. So those alone are 14 not including mousewheel keybinds (if druid: use mousewheel for changing forms to get out of dazes etc.) so thats 14, then with shift its 28, ctrl is 42, alt is 56. Then if you do ctrl+shift it goes to 70. Then its even more if you add in V, Z, F, Q, E, R, T, S, and some others. Then include shift, alt, and ctrl. And then shift+ctrl. It gets to be well over 120+ binds.

[@baller7387]

how do you fit all those binds on your interface?

[@cstevey]

Biggest way is addons. I use ElvUI. Lets me add up to 6 different action bars all with 12 max buttons per bar. On top of that I have my pet bar and stance bar (pet for hunter/lock etc. and stance for warrior, druid, monk etc.) So the actionbars alone give me about 70 or so buttons. After using them for so long on a single character you also get pretty used to where things are so I end up hiding most of the bars except for the ones I need to see CDs. But for that you could also use WeakAuras and have a whole other bar just for your CDs. With addons it gets pretty easy to fillup your bars especially as an arena player when you need a focus macro, a target arena1/arena2/arena3 macros. Gets pretty deep when you really look at it.

[@jimworkman277]

Thank you very much!!! Glad I watched this. Should improve my game play quite a bit. Very informative and easy to follow...easy for me :)

[@Sako0944]

Not even kidding I'm Multi Glad and I got R1 season 1 of legion and this video still helped me. Thanks for the tips!

[@felixhogsander2533]

Newly subbed, I've searched all over for videos such as this, and found none as in-depth as yours.. I have one request of a video I have not seen (atleast not very good ones), of What comps to play with classes etc, I myself play Holy Paladin, and I have no idea what's good ( I know like Uh/holy is nice, but yeah ........... :P keep it up man

[@connorcollins8629]

I like mouseover macros in bgs/rbg because I can see more easily who is focusing me. I'm so used to mouseover macros because of mythic raiding, where split seconds are important, that i have a super hard time to heal without.

[@gabbadahutt]

Hey Cdew! Just a thought: I think you should make it so that your Cdews and Cdonts playlist plays the videos from the first to the latest instead of the other way around (the way it is rn)! That'd be easier to listen to back to back! Great videos, cheers!

[@kolorytoweoke]

positioning and kiting as a healer would be an awesome topic

[@Shickeri]

Dark simicron on focus macro (vanilla player) i keep my eye on my focus. Im a frost dk, one 2v2 vs a resto druid. Focus macro and was stealing his cyclones and using them on him... hate when ppl say drost has no cc... focus dark simicron.. and boom u have tons.

[@GVondraak]

Vanilla player, big pvper, and still learned some new macro tricks [especially the @cursor] thanks man! big ups

[@GetDoused]

Hey quick question! can i make two trinkets one the same marco? like use one first then the second when the timer is up?

[@everythingtaken3674]

13:50 the game does that for me without a macro, if i switch my specc the button in my bar is replaced by the ability that i specced into

[@Balloonbot]

This is really cool but im already running short on comfortable keybinds with no macros

[@ItsBenne]

Hey cdew I wonder if you can still make pvp macros such as the talents swaps but specifics for the pvp tree been trying a lot for trying to get easier and faster toolbox for arena and wonder if it just me misspelled or it doesn’t work to make such macros anymore?

[@jzmmm]

man, some quality info here. excellent video. subbed

[@Jeckelhyde]

my only problem I'm having so far with the help/harm macro is it doesn't show the spell icon (it does show tooltip though) for which one I'm currently using based on target like Riptide for help and Flame Shock for harm. Also I can't use Riptide on myself unless I'm targeted using focus on myself with the macro.

[@The_Azure_]

Did a bit of testing with it, not currently on my Shaman but the idea should work. Small downside, the default icon will be whatever is in showtooltip /cast [harm]Raptor Strike; /cast [help]Mend Pet; #showtooltip Mend Pet It has the icon change between both Raptor Strike and Mend Pet, the tooltips change as well. I'll be thinking on that Riptide target problem for a bit. Edit: I don't know how, but somehow I was able to solve it at 6am... One downsides however, It needed a modifier key, if you have something else using that key like another actionbar button, the game prioritizes that button over the macro. So if your riptide is on button E, and have healing rain on shift+E, it'll prioritize healing rain over self-riptide. /cast [help,mod:shift,@player][help,nomod]Riptide; /cast [harm]Flame Shock; #showtooltip Riptide Basically, with a friendly targeted, it will cast flash of light on them. If you hold shift then it'll be on yourself. If you're targeting an enemy, it'll cast the attack, but if you hold shift, it'll cast the heal on yourself. (Note: whatever comes after #showtooltip will be the icon/tooltip you see when nothing is selected, as long as the macro icon is the "?".)

[@christopherfortineux6937]

No lie i tabbed out and listened to this like a podcast.

[@Ahlizz]

The part where you explain the talent switch macro, does that work with focus/arena macros? Etc you want a focus bash macro but a focus typhoon is useless. So you don’t have to out out different focus macros depending on which talent you’re running with. Am I making any sense at all here?

[@Greyvend]

Cdew, why do you need to use Focus target and corresponding macros if you already have Arena 1, 2, 3 macros?

[@lo7074]

When I got used to macros, char rotation became easy. DK unholy have a mitigation that transfer damage to pet and pet have its own mitigation. I always use both together so I did a macro to press one button. Warrior have a lot of damage increase abilities.. I made a macro for activate them all. All abilities I always use after another ability, I fuse in a macro.

[@6teeth]

Respect,you are so good explaining.Ty.

[@experty900]

Is there any way to put me always on the top of the party frames? I bind party 1,2 and myself on f1,f2,f3. But if i join the arena im sometimes in the middle or bottom of frames so i have to rethink my buttoms.

[@kristapsgrandovskis1823]

Hey Cdew, awesome video bro! I would love to see a video on the addons you use.

[@melkorsbane]

This was incredible and so handy! Thank you!

[@ionicguy4919]

One question. Why have focus macros when you have arena 123 macros?

[@Snark_x]

Outro song was changed and not changed in the description.

[@hyperstatic6037]

This may be a long shot, but wanted to mention it. I've found that as a PVE healer primarily, I have a ton of PVE addons/macros for raids (like unit frames, mouseover, weak auras, etc). I absolutely hated going from a PVE healing setting into arena where I wanted no mouseover, totally different unit frames, and lots of different macros to be dragged onto bars and all that. Do you know of a way to have more of a PVE/PVP set up (like a profile) for a full UI swap? I would love to keep my unit frames and addons/macros/bars the way they are for PVE and then have a button to push that will convert the whole UI to a PVP profile where all my extra unit frames are disabled and it has my macros already loaded where I want them. If you know of any addon/script/macro that can do this, please elaborate on it in your UI set up video. I'm sure this isn't a problem for some DPS classes or people that only PVP, but for me, it was almost not worth doing PVP when I was primarily doing PVE due to the drastic difference in bar set up and macros. Hope you see this. Thanks for the series, really enjoying it.

[@djstucky7218]

I have this same question. Going from raid healing to PvP healing feels bad. When I play RBGs, I still use my mouseover macros, same raid frames, etc. But going into arenas would be totally different. It would require an entirely new action bar and another page or two of macros to get it all to work properly. It seems like you almost need to relearn the skills completely if you are going from a primarily PvE healer to arena style PvP.

[@hyperstatic6037]

Yeah, it's annoying. The work-around that I did was to set up my mmo mouse with a different profile that I could add my target party/arena macros and dispel party macros to different mouse buttons so all I have to do is press my profile switch button my mouse and I'm ready in terms of targeting. I left things like my Archangel and premonition macros on my bars at all times and I just have to live with not using those keybinds in PVE because I hate having to manually move my bars around to pvp. Unfortunately, it still leaves the problem of other addons and unit frames. I would really like it if Blizz set up in-game PVP profiles, or at minimum, something like the way each spec has it's own bar layout when you swap over.

[@johnathanwright5216]

The more I think about this, I'm not sure it's possible. There's a simple way to swap around your ui as you need to, especially with add-ons like elvui, but I'm not sure there's a way to pre set entire action bars like that. There is a work around to have your macros in your pve ui hidden and then shown in your PvP ui, but you would still need to place as you need.

[@dominicsaraga1517]

Any tips to get me back in pvping? I was huge into it back in mop but all the new class changes really killed my passion for my favorite classes and or the game. I cant thank you enough for making my teenage years bomb af.

[@viktor8119]

Wow, I learnt so many things from this video. Thanks!