Why do the Amish call Americans "English"?

The Amish are strict Anabaptist Protestants most of whom live in rural communities in the United States and Canada, being particularly focused in Pennsylvania which gives the name to their language of Pennsylvania Dutch. When referring to non-Amish people, the Amish will say "English", and in today's video I wanted to find out why.
00:00-00:47 - Intro
00:47-02:43 - Who are the Amish?
02:43-04:26 - The Amish in America
04:26-06:50 - What do the Amish call outsiders?
06:50-07:43 - Outro
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[@heronimousbrapson863]

Outside the United States, a "Yankee" is anyone from that country. In the US, a "Yankee" is a northerner. In the north, a "Yankee" is from the east; in the east a "Yankee" is from New Englahd. In New England a "Yankee" is a Vermonter, and in Vermont, a "Yankee" is someone who eats pie for breakfast.....

[@Isaaac165]

It just keeps on zooming in.

[@michaelsilver253]

Yup. Grew up outside Philadelphia, Yankee meant New Englander, especially when referring to the accent (particularly the Maine accent) Went to school, girl I dated from rural Texas would refer to where I was from as Yankeeland when we were teasing each other. Then we went abroad to Ireland and they called us both Yanks (no, we didn't do any of the cringe "HEY MY GREAT GRANDPA IS FROM HERE AND LOOK I HAVE A CELTIC CROSS TATTOO MAYBE YOU'RE MY 3RD COUSIN LOL LOVE MY HERITAGE" stuff)

[@blazingbattlehawk9626]

And if you're from Boston and Yankee is someone you fight on a baseball field

[@spelcheak]

@@michaelsilver253 cringe rejection of ancestry

[@ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588]

@@spelcheakwhy is it cringe? Who cares.

[@justinyang3742]

Reminds me of how Haitians use the term "nèg" (black) to means "guy" or "dude", while "blan" (white) refers to foreigners. So the community of ethnic Poles in Haiti are referred to as "nèg", while an African American might be considered "blan".

[@jesusdavis2941]

It reminded me of that too. Also, supposedly older people and peasants refer to dominicans as "moun pagnol" (spanish people) despite 200yrs of not being spanish territory any longer

[@pierreabbat6157]

That reminds me of that I've read that New Guineans speaking Tok Pisin would refer to an African American as "blakpela waitman".

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

Kind of like how some Hispanics call all foreigners "gringos" even though that word originally meant "Greeks".

[@jordan3636]

hmmm.... why are there poles in haiti. . . suspicious. why are there also lebanese in haiti? why does bigio, a consul to Israel, control everything in haiti and gives guns, money and drugs to the violent cannibal gangs. interesting how a country that only popped up less than 50 years ago has their dirty hands in so much of the sad parts of this world. look up the companies that mine africa. interesting how the Anglo American company that mines Africa isn't American or anglo. . . interesting. . .

[@OGrandomunknownperson]

@@MatthewTheWanderer no it meant green go home

[@Jobe-13]

They live like it's the 1600s-1700s. Makes sense.

[@MaoRatto]

A good majority are Dutch.... Correction: 4/18/2024... Duestch descendants.

[@slizzysluzzer]

@@MaoRatto Deutsch, not Dutch.

[@That.Guy.]

In all fairness we referred to South Americans as Spanish…

[@LeeKelly-dj4rf]

@@That.Guy.Spanish Speakers not Spanish..

[@geoffreyherrick298]

​@@slizzysluzzerWell, Dutch is a Germanic language 💁‍♂️.

[@chigeh]

In South Africa, english speakers often call Afrikaners "the Dutch" and the Afrikaners call the white English speakers "the English "

[@Makarosc]

There's something deeply wrong with the Dutch

[@suppiluiiuma5769]

I find this ironic considering that English-speaking in South Africa, at least outside of places like Natal, aren't purely English in blood and culture and that Afrikaners on average have about as much French and German blood as they do Dutch.

[@williamharrold1422]

My family lived alongside the Amish for many generations, both in Pennsylvania and Ohio. One point of possible confusion: their desire is not to live in the past, but to be self-sufficient. It was always a point of family pride that they called our family Huguenot rather than English. Family lore traces our lineage from Protestant France, through Southern Germany.

[@Joe-rb8ju]

That’s kinda cool, attention to detail.

[@fuguthefish]

Yea, not to live in the past but to reject anything modern aka "evil" and to keep their kids as isolated as possible from the outside world. Disgusting cult.

[@blazingfire_0712]

Self sufficient? But the advancements of our technology made great strides in that field.

[@iminyourwalls8309]

@@blazingfire_0712 I've heard of less strict Amish people who actually do use things such as computers and modern agricultural techniques, but modern technology just can't be used for leisure. It's only for work.

[@Joe-rb8ju]

@@blazingfire_0712 china has a monopoly on rare earth minerals, 80-90 percent. We are dependent on y them for techno

[@caseclosed9342]

Here in the US a lot of people were introduced to Amish using the term “the English” in the movie Witness.

[@davidshaddick3822]

Especially when they yelled Harrison Ford's character to be careful out among the English!

[@mh2.024]

Many Amish in MidMichigan as well. Nice folk, hard workers. One thing I dont understand, though, is why they never single ride a horse. They always travel by buggy while not walking.

[@janrussellheeringa1997]

They believe that single riding a horse is prideful and thus abstain from doing so. Same reason why they don't have mustaches or exposed buttons on their clothes

[@mh2.024]

@janrussellheeringa1997 Ahh! Thanks for the info. I've always wondered this.

[@badluck5647]

Saddles are sinful?

[@janrussellheeringa1997]

@@badluck5647 not quite. The Amish believe that riding on the back of a horse can lead to a person being prideful, for example the phrase "get off your high horse" means that one should stop acting superior.

[@seekingthelovethatgodmeans7648]

@@janrussellheeringa1997 How about riding on a donkey, like Jesus did?

[@TheCynthiaRice]

I grew up in PA Dutch country. My Dad spoke PA Dutch. They always called us English. Remember the movie Witness? My Dad knew the owners of the farm.

[@TheCynthiaRice]

My family came to PA in 1699.

[@Tripserpentine]

''deutsch'' I speak Dutch Dutch and PA Dutch is not Dutch it's Deutsch.

[@michaelsilver253]

​@Tripserpentine it's what they call themselves and their language (Deitsche) but put Dutch on all of their signage and stuff since that's what people are used to seeing and using in the area. I understand it is a bit of a misnomer from a more objective viewpoint... but people don't define themselves objectively.

[@michaelsilver253]

My aunt lived in PA Dutch country and I grew up about an hour away. The thing those folks can do with baked goods goddamn

[@TheCynthiaRice]

@@michaelsilver253 What I wouldn't give for a funeral pie, i.e. raisin pie🥧

[@noahbrock349]

Interesting subject. I suppose it is similar to calling English speakers or Anglophone countries "Anglo-Saxon".

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

I know French people do that. They literally have the word "Anglophone", just use that. Tbf, it's irritating we don't have a common in use word for all English speakers (either of English origin specifically "Anglo-Saxon" is implied, or any English speaker in general, as "Anglophone" implies)

[@peddler931]

​@@cerebrummaximus3762 The terms "Anglophone" and "Francophone" are used in Canadian English.

[@rebeccaanne9863]

@@peddler931they’re also used in America English and probably in British English and Aussie English too. But then most native speaking Anglophones don’t know their own language.

[@danidejaneiro8378]

@@rebeccaanne9863- how can you be a native speaker of a language without knowing that language derp lol

[@rebeccaanne9863]

@@danidejaneiro8378 The joke 💨 Your head 👨‍🦲

[@BackgroundHistory]

That Yankee had Dutch origins was really unexpected, but a neat fact! Great video as always Hilbert!

[@kbm2055]

Just note that it's just one explanation and it's not certain (although to me it sounds certainly plausible).

[@dknapp64]

Hi Hilbert, Great video! I come from an ethnic Pennsylvania Dutch family. My grandmother (born in 1903) spoke PA Dutch and didn't learn English until she went to school. She was from a Reformed Church and my grandfather was Lutheran. Many people spoke PA Dutch in that region who were not Mennonite or Amish, as you suggest in the video. I remember my grandmother speaking with her friends in PA Dutch on the phone. I would understand words like "refrigerator", "camera", and "television" because words for such modern items did not exist natively in PA Dutch. Towards the end of her life, my grandmother hired an Amish girl to help her with housework and they spoke PA Dutch to one another. I look forward to future videos from you. Cheers!

[@colbylejeune]

In Louisiana, Americans are also called either "les Anglais" or "les Américains" by the French

[@nedeast6845]

What do people from America call Louisianans?

[@colbylejeune]

@@nedeast6845 All kinds of things lol. The French Louisianians are usually called "French" or "Cajun" or "Creole" or "Acadian," depending on the person's conceptions

[@poeleabois]

We call Canadians and Americans "the English" in Québec too

[@Patrick_Bateman92]

Also you know what they call cheese in paris? Le fromage

[@michaelmanning5379]

Famously, anyone who isn't Scottish is a Sassenach or Saxon. The migration of the Amish came about due to the expansionary wars of Louis XIV of France. The refugees petitioned Queen Anne for shelter. The original intent of her ministers was to settle them in the Hudson Valley as tenant farmers beholden to great land owners.

[@stischer47]

This is the same in south Texas when people were divided by the language they spoke - Spanish or not Spanish. Since most of the non-Spanish speakers spoke English, anyone who did not speak Spanish were (and still are) called Anglo.

[@gamermapper]

That's what they are. Anglo Americans. Many Americans want to say "I'm Italian" for some reason but they don't speak Italian, live in a community with other White Americans, and don't consume any art or media in Italian. If they actually want to be something different, like the Hispanics, maybe they could learn Italian.

[@baneofbanes]

@@gamermapperyah you do realize that if he’s talking about Texas he’s likely referring to German and Czech speakers being historically lumped in with Anglos.

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

If the Amish called me English it is accurate as I am American of mostly English descent. But they call anyone ever white as English. Well it's sometimes weird.

[@Quetsalcoatvl]

funnily enough due to 19th century migration the german ethnicity vastly outnumbers english ethnic heritage in all of america , but even moreso in the states they are mostly located in lol

[@enderweimer9545]

​@@Quetsalcoatvl"German Americans" are really just a German English mix prolly has slightly more German the notion that Germans are the majority or that the English are the minority is a myth people know they have some German dna so they put German because its more exotic nobody is proud of there English heritage or even American most Americans can trace there ancestry back before the American revolution

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@@Quetsalcoatvl Only if we exclude that millions of Americans who identify ethnically as "american" but if we acknowledge they are English. Both German and English are around 52 million each. But how do we know if those Germans don't have English mix as well?

[@zackomode8028]

​@@QuetsalcoatvlI think it's overestimated, if I'm being honest with you.

[@migueljoserivera9030]

@@Quetsalcoatvl The people from the US tend to underestimate their British heritage and overestimate any other heritage, so if they are (going back to whoever inmigrated or to the Native Americans) something like 88%English 12%Irish (that is, 1 great grandparent inmigrated from Ireland) they consider themselves Irish. Even though most white US Americans have German heritage, often is mixed with English and Scottish and most of the time very diluted.

[@pallasathena1555]

Tis a fine barn, but sure tis no pool English

[@daxtonfleming]

D'oh-eth!

[@shaetteb1272]

I got "child" but what does pool mean

[@floydtron]

​@@shaetteb1272 It's a joke from The Simpsons.

[@beeflumps]

Ohhh that's why he said English. It all comes together!

[@bweresquirrel8279]

"YANKEE, n. In Europe, an American. In the Northern States of our Union, a New Englander. In the Southern States the word is unknown. (See DAMNYANK.)" - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

[@legojenn]

Even in Canada, we don't believe in discrimination. A Yank is a Yank whether you're from Massachewsits, Massochoosyts, hmmm Massachusetts or Texas.

[@bweresquirrel8279]

@@legojenn Yes. And in California, there's a widespread tendency to refer to anyone of European ancestry who speaks English as a first language as Anglo. Not anglophone as in Canada, but Anglo.

[@autumnphillips151]

I really like the design of that speech bubble that has the U.S. and U.K. flags on it. Did you make that yourself, Hilbert? If so, congrats on your artistic talent, and, if not, congrats on your skills at discovering and utilizing cool images. It’s really pleasing how the stripes flow into each other and right into the pointy edge of the speech bubble.

[@subpar5360]

I live in an area of Pennsylvania with a decent Amish population (one of the zones on your map). These days there are a lot of "Amish stores" around where they actually modern-style cash registers that actually run on battery packs, not connected to the internet, and are apparently acceptable in their culture. They're also quite fond of hockey. I remember being shocked to see them at the local ice rink late at night. Mostly because their goalies didn't wear any pads. They just had on winter gloves and dragged their fists across the ice to block incoming shots.

[@Freakcent]

Zeer interessant! dank. P.S. Imho is de achtergrondmuziek niet bepaald in de achtergrond.

[@leornendeealdenglisc]

Very insightful video, Hilbert!

[@iLLeag7e]

Hey History with Hilbert thanks for all of the really good history content. Your channel is great. Have a good one dude

[@sarah07290]

The background music is way, way too loud mate.

[@felixtheswiss]

Interestingly the Name Amman comes from Amt Mann that can mean Bailiff or in Switzerland Mayor

[@nedeast6845]

Thank you so much for the video, something new and interesting for me to delve into

[@TheNecrolord]

Fun fact: "Deitsche" is also how "Deutsche" is pronounced in southern german dialects. (Atleast for bavarian/austrian) Source: I am a native bavarian. Now i am courious, if PA dutch is simply an our dialect from a few hundred years ago.

[@philomelodia]

Their dialect is based on Pfälzisch. That one is closest. They still struggle to understand each other sometimes though.

[@bernhardschmalhofer855]

In Indiana gibt a a Gmoa de Schweizetdeitsch redt.

[@JohnDoe-dg1dl]

The background music was a bit loud for me

[@rocksandforestquiver959]

Well in Canada it's still pretty normal to just call anyone English whose first language is English as opposed to French or any foreign or FN languages, though of course we'd still call Americans Americans almost always.

[@docjoe86]

1:46 Slight Dutch angle? I see what you did there!

[@Urlocallordandsavior]

Don't really see it.

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

I'm glad I'm not one of them, but I find the Amish people and everything about them to be fascinating.

[@Lockfly]

If they're allowed to read books then I wish I was one of them

[@JohnBrownsBody64920]

​@@LockflyYou're not allowed to read books? That's wild.

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

@@Lockfly WTF, why!? Life among the Amish is very hard and they have almost no privacy! Also, I assure you that they have an extremely limited number of books they are allowed to read.

[@Lockfly]

I searched it up and apparently the Amish are allowed to go to libraries, buy books etc. They also have their own education system which is interesting. Yeah I wish I was Amish I hate the internet

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

@@Lockfly Then, go join them, lol. It's not impossible to convert. Their lifestyle sounds like absolute hell to me, though. Like only a step up from being homeless. The internet is the best thing to ever happen, how could you hate it?

[@ConservatEV]

I live in Manchester, Michigan (near Ann Arbor.) Not in Amish country but not too far away. Our high school’s mascot is The Flying Dutchman. Why? The village was primarily settled by Germans. The Deutsch Men. The non-Germans pronounced it Dutch of course so… Dutchmen. Not really all that many actual Dutch lineage here but we still cheer “Go Dutch!”

[@mikethespike7579]

The background music makes it difficult to follow and understand the narration. Otherwise an interesting video. I speak fluent German and had the opportunity to talk to some Amish. I understood a lot of their Pennsylvania Dutch. Pronunciation, some terminology and sentences were a bit odd, but over time I was able to follow them quite easily. I reckon that's how people spoke German a couple of 100 years ago.

[@nedeast6845]

the music is superfluous and distracting, I hope enough people tell him that

[@donnieroush58]

Agreeed way too loud to pay attention

[@GeraldM_inNC]

People have so many misconceptions about the "Pennsylvania Dutch". First, very few of the PA Dutch were ever "Amish". That sect is merely an offshoot of the Mennonites, and Mennonites were in PA long before the Amish movement even began. Second, Mennonites were greatly outnumbered in PA by the Lutherans and Calvinists denominations, who were also PA Dutch. All three groups arrived in PA in great numbers throughout the 18th Century. All three continued speaking German well into the 19th Century. There were of course some members who learned English and even who married Anglos as early as the 18th Century, but it was from 1820-1850 that the Lutherans and Calvinists finally began to marry into Anglo society frequently. In short, radical Baptists did NOT account for the majority of PA Dutch during the 18th Century, and the radical Baptists known as the Amish did not diverge from the Mennonites until well after the Mennonites were already populous in PA.

[@Boots3HealthPots]

to have another video in this sort of series the doukhobors in canada is another interesting group from my area in the west kootenays.

[@Xenonmorph__]

Clevelander here. Good job on pronouncing Geagua. Gee-aw-gah! Good!

[@jannetteberends8730]

Nice video.

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

The Amish refer to anyone they see as English and it is kinda funny because they would go calling Jews and white passing MENA individuals as English too and it's funny.

[@seven7zip]

what is MENA?

[@thecaliphate2678]

​@@seven7zipMiddle East North Africa

[@schubi42]

white passing MENA individuals? You sound different, you must be English. 😅

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@@seven7zip middle-east north Africa. But I specified only "white passing" Mena. Most are brown

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@@schubi42 English American

[@IRosamelia]

Thanks!!! I've always found the Amish interesting

[@brianjonker510]

They need a term for people not in their group and since we speak English so its a convenient term.

[@goatfarmmb]

Those Amish that still speak a Swiss German Dialect live in Indiana and they where the last group of Amish to leave the Swiss Canton of Bern

[@micahistory]

Interesting video, never even knew this term was a thing

[@sachitdaniel6688]

The music is louder than the words for the majority of the video.

[@robertkennedy2258]

That Simpsons barn clip makes a lot more sense now

[@suzanneemry5770]

I live in Lake County OH which is not far from Geauga which you did pronounce correctly. Northeast Ohio belonged to Connecticut in the 1700 and (at least early 1800s) as I understand it. As Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain) famously accentuated people from Connecticut were considered (and probably quite proud of being) Yankees (at least in Clemens time, I'm not sure when they first earned that distinction). So the Amish that initially came here probably saw it as Yankee (specifically Connecticut Yankee) territory. Before moving here I read some very interesting history describing acceptance of "our German brothers" and rejection of Catholics like the Irish. Of course, that's religious discrimination and you're more of a language guy so it probably won't interest you

[@janesda]

Maybe you could do a video on the history of why some KZbin creators learned how to stretch an explanation of the obvious to nearly 8 minutes.

[@TomorrowWeLive]

It happened ever since the algorithm started prioritising ten minute or thereabout vids

[@karlkarlos3545]

Or why some people complain about the lengths of 8 minutes videos when they just could use google for an answer.

[@RaspberryWhy]

HWH, I really enjoy your videos but sometimes - like on this one - the background music is overpowering and makes it a challenge to watch. Just a thought

[@vibraphonics]

Great content! But the background music is too loud, it's very distracting

[@nedeast6845]

Hopefully he will take this on board, I agree, the music is superfluous and distracting

[@markadams7046]

I've heard that "Yankee" derives from actual Dutch words that meant "cheese head." When England took over Dutch holdings like New Amsterdam (later New York), the Dutch already living there thought the British weren't all that bright, so it was like an insult word. During the American Civil War, "Yankees" were those from the northern states or the union.

[@foundationofBritain]

English is still the largest ethnic demographic in both America and Canada, if not the majority ethnic demographic in both countries. So the Amish calling Americans and Canadians "English", is a reflection of ethnic demographic reality of most of north America.

[@Adiscretefirm]

Germany (and all it's pre unification states)is the largest ethnic origin of Americans. There was massive immigration from the remnants of the HRE in the 1800s

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@@Adiscretefirm except those Germans mixed with Americans but decide to continue calling themselves German as it's exotic. But German Americans are still like half English. Those immigrants would pick up American girls practically off the boat. It's good you said pre unified Germany. Yea Germans are Austrian, Swiss, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Germany, and the various German communities in southern and eastern Europe prior to ww1 and ww2. And probably Dutch I dunno. I heard Dutch immigrants prior to 1848 called themselves German but later immigrants after 1871 as Dutch.

[@noahbrock349]

I doubt that's correct in the United States. If it is, prove it.

[@Adiscretefirm]

@@noahtylerpritchett2682 US Census disagrees with you. 41 million German, 31 million English. I suppose if you assumed the majority of the 17 million American choice respondents should be classified as English you could get more than 41 million, but if you are doing that you can change any statistic to support any position. You may have a point that people today whose ancestors came from Bavaria or Saxony all default to German while Welsh, Scots, and Northern Irish differentiate from English.

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@@AdiscretefirmI am basing this on genealogical and genetic studies. The majority of German Americans aren't pure German but mix Anglo-German. And I am allowing mix people to be included into the definition to serve the point that our identity isn't just English or German. But that millions of Americans are mix of both. That's why Germans and English are the two largest ethnicities. Is because we are mix of both. That's why and so fourth circular argument.

[@awsomedude12345678]

A few small corrections the amish were also referred to as a branch of Mennonites up to the civil war Before ww2 many non Mennonites or amish spoke Pennsylvania german in berks chester york and lancaster County but stopped as to not be associated with nazi Germany only the close knit communitys of the amish and Mennonites continued to speak german Also the reason we referer to non penn german speakers as English is because they speak English at home making them English and the amish and Mennonites speak "Dutch" at home and so that's why we refer to ourselves as Dutch not really complicated If you had neighbors that spoke Russian at home would you not refer to them as Russians?

[@Cannon530YTOO]

Please include you sources in the description!

[@ErdmanVonAlmaty]

Kinda the same thing here in Kazakhstan. We call any Slavs "Russian" cuz we do not know for sure whether they are Ukrainian or Polish. But if you are not Slavic then you might be referred to as German cuz there were German prisoners, exiled here thanks to STALIN.

[@gamermapper]

На западе всех русскоговорящих из СССР называют русскими. Не только белорусов и украинцев но также и молдаван и казахов иногда.

[@Dhi_Bee]

5:40 OMG The funniest thing is the first & only time I’ve ever seen Amish people was in Geauga County, Ohio in 2018 visiting my friend in Cleveland when we went camping around there😂 I bought their cheese & apple butter which was delicious

[@charcharlie183]

This upsets me deeply

[@BjornBidar]

2:27 You someone frame that with a modern angle since at that time (and today technically) the people where culturally from one people even thou they did not necessarily share one ruler. This is one of the reason why the goal was to have a country for all German people not just the ones living in the German nations that were allied with Prussia.

[@FifthChanceChangin]

I live in Wayne county Ohio and we have a large amount of both Amish and Mennonite in the area. And what’s interesting is that the “old order” in penselvania are more “new order” than the “new order” where I live. The Amish have a very interesting culture and the ones from around here will have the women and children on the left side of the wagon and the men on the right side, that way in case of crash from other lane the man survives because he’s more important. There’s also so many more “quirks” in their culture and beliefs that I highly recommend looking into:)

[@M0rtanius]

That's weird because traditionally men are the expendable ones and women & children are the important ones. Men went to war & died easily while women stayed at home and carried & raised children.

[@TheStickCollector]

Yeah

[@IanK369]

"Tis a fine barn, but sure it is no pool, English." "D'OH-ETH!!!"

[@mikatjoe483]

Hou van je video's maar is het niet handig om bronnen in de beschrijving te zetten?

[@TuorTheBlessedOfUlmo]

Hilbert I love your videos mate, but the background music is starting to get really obnoxious. It's really loud compared to your voice, it should be a lot quieter I think maybe you should poll your viewers or something.

[@nedeast6845]

I was going to write the same thing, I am glad someone else finds it distracting

[@GansGreuts]

1:37 Is South Limburg independent now or did the Belgians invade?

[@Adiscretefirm]

Because they call all English speakers as English. I bet that mystifies Aussie tourists

[@geoffreyherrick298]

I thought it was because since they live like they're in 17th century the Revolutionary War never happened. How quaint!

[@paddyquinlan3329]

'Tis a fine barn but sure 'tis no pool English.

[@donnieroush58]

Background music was way too loud and was a bit distracting

[@Ldysith84]

Geauga was correct (and I don't live in that county but close to it and go there all the time)

[@coyotelong4349]

It’s fascinating that even, say, a Japanese tourist who visited Amish country would be called “English”

[@princerupert6161]

It's simple.. English speaking Americans heard the word Dutch when speaking with these people. The English used the word Dutch and Dutchland when referring to Germans and Germany as was used later.

[@twincast2005]

It's basically the same way Latinos use "Anglos". Funny in the particular constellation when Amish use the English word for English while speaking English to refer to people who speak English (like they do), but aren't from England (like they aren't), but at its core quite natural and thus no surprise. 5:20 "Deitsche" also being the pronunciation and spelling in today's southern German dialects. I've never heard any variant of the second term before outside TV ads for Deutschländer brand sausage, but it feels natural to have existed and odd to not do so anymore in any practical sense. Speaking as a post-WW2 Austrian, there's no potential for confusion outside historical contexts when using "Deutsche" strictly as a noun, but there very much is when it's used as an adjective, usually relying simply on context clues to determine whether it's referring to the language or to the country, which of course makes little to no difference for many others, but because of the splintering of the Teutonic Kingdom of the HRE it does for "deutsche" rather unusually despite no former colonies speaking the same language. That said, there are more precise alternatives available: "deutschsprachige" (German language) and "bundesdeutsche" (federal German). However, despite appearing in some official texts/names, the average citizen/denizen of Germany reacts with confusion when they hear/see Austrians use the latter to refer to them or their country, which I find especially baffling as it's extremely common for Federal Germans (particularly in political speeches and news reports) to refer to Germany as "die Bundesrepublik" (the Federal Republic).

[@wholewheatcracker3561]

I think “anglos” is more of a Chicano thing, maybe a Nuyorican thing too but mostly people who were born here, newer Latino immigrants wouldn’t really use that. It’s mostly an older person thing too, younger Chicanos mostly just say “white people” even if they themselves might be considered white in Latin America

[@noahbrock349]

"Anglo-Saxon" is commonly used to describe English speakers. This appears to be more widespread in foreign languages. In Spanish, for example, isn't terms such as "mundo anglosajón" common?

[@brooksrownd2275]

Yeah, that's the first thing I thought of. Both have an insulting undertone.

[@twincast2005]

@@wholewheatcracker3561 Well, I can't speak to regional distribution, but I see loads of young Spanish (and IIRC some Portuguese, too) speakers in the Americas complaining on social media about deranged prudish "Anglos" (referring primarily to US majority society, but I've also seen some include even us continental Europeans) ruining fandom. The few I do know where they're from are born and raised in Mexico. 🤷

[@twincast2005]

@@noahbrock349 Just for the record, "Angelsachse" and "angelsächsisch" etc. are rather rare for modern-day English in German, and if used as such (i.e. not for the historical people before the Norman Conquest) refer primarily to people from England, only secondarily to their English-speaking descendants around the globe.

[@AntonSlavik]

Always wondered about this. So even I as an Irishman or even a Pole would be "English"? How strange.

[@kkupsky6321]

You drew an Amish guy with a mustache haha. All neck beards mate haha. Pain in the ass getting stuck behind their buggies.

[@parvuspeach]

i dated a german mennonite girl, their family had lived for centuries in ukraine, invited by catherine the great, by ww2 they were all repatriated to germany and "reeducated" anyhoo, she was one crazy lady :D

[@whoahna8438]

In Louisiana Creole the English language is called Méricain and the non Creole people are called Américain

[@Liethen]

Imagine their interaction with a very proud Frenchman

[@chriswaldrip2739]

There are still plenty of people from the South of the United States who will take great offense at being called a ’Yankee’. Much like people from Ireland who are called English.

[@JOSEPHMATTHEWHOLLAND]

I don't know where my family name Holland originally came from but respect to all from Western Kentucky 🤝

[@nedeast6845]

Anyone with the surname "Holland" is always "Dutchy":)

[@claytonwaynejohnson5315]

@@nedeast6845 No! Holland are of original English surname. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland_(surname)

[@geraldframinghammer2626]

I've decided that exactly today I have achieved my technological peak. Anything more is evil.

[@thomascoleman7708]

I've heard Native Americans refer to all European Americans as "English" no matter their origin.

[@enderweimer9545]

No

[@noahbrock349]

I'm surprise that there are many left.

[@enderweimer9545]

@@noahbrock349 in the lower 48 they'll prolly go extinct in a century or 2 Alaska Canada and Hawaii I see hold on

[@thomascoleman7708]

@@enderweimer9545 So you're telling me what I have and haven't heard?

[@enderweimer9545]

@@thomascoleman7708 im saying that what you're saying is incorrect

[@xenialafleur]

I'm confused by the title of the video. Do the Amish not consider themselves American?

[@SuprousOxide]

Macha lattes?

[@__Man__]

Yes, not wrong. Majority of the US citizens are ethnic English (Anglo-Saxons).

[@hugomartinez692]

It’s kinda how we, Hispanics, refer to white people when we’re talking amongst in each other in Spanish, calling them, “Anglos.”

[@noahbrock349]

What are you talking about? Many Hispanics are white? Aren't Spaniards white in your opinion?

[@noahbrock349]

What are you talking about? Many Hispanics are white. Aren't Spaniards white in your opinion?

[@hugomartinez692]

@@noahbrock349 Spaniards ARE white. I’m talking about Latin American first- and second-generation immigrants.

[@noahbrock349]

​@@hugomartinez692Many Latin Americans are white as well. Anyway, doesn't this phenomenon apply to all Spanish speakers. For example, isn't the term "mundo anglosajón" used to describe the English-speaking world?

[@hugomartinez692]

@@noahbrock349 100% correct. Hispanics don’t really care about race or ethnicity, only about nationality (or parents’ nationality) and whether u can speak the language of not. If you’re white but have family from Latin America and/pr speak the language, you’re not considered an “Anglo” or “anglosajón.” The same applies to other racial groups when they speak Spanish and/or have parents from Latin America

[@nate8lowe]

I don't recommend doing so in the South, even the Cherokee here have Scots-Irie clans, and no American wants to be reminded that boss is Dutch for master

[@st-ex8506]

Why do the Americans call them "Pennsylvania Dutch"', when they are NOT of Dutch origin, but of Swiss, German, and Alsacian origin? Maybe when the Amish were asked who they were, they answered "Deutsch"... and American notorious ignorance of anything outside the US borders transformed "Deutsch" in "Dutch"?

[@markw999]

We've got Mennonites around here. We tried spraying for them, but they keep coming back.

[@ARCtheCartoonMaster]

Same reason Americans call Mexicans “Spanish”.

[@rpadair]

Tis a fine barn, but sure tis no pool, English.

[@captainoofmerica2478]

As a Southerner Yankee or Yank being so internationally accepted as a word for any American will never cease to annoy me 😂

[@baneofbanes]

Well you guys use the word to refer to any and all northerners which is just as wrong.

[@conservativedemocracyenjoyer]

Common Yank Win

[@michaeldavenport4516]

You correctly pronounced Geauga. The Amish here do refer to English speakers as Yankee here.

[@shogen25]

The amish will survive the collapse.

[@tjflyers]

That Amish map at the beginning is missing Kent County, Delaware! Pretty notable pocket there

[@pierreabbat6157]

I live in western Rutherford County, North Carolina, which is at the bottom of the map. I don't know how many Amish live here, but I was once in eastern Rutherford County looking at a possible surveying job, and someone went by in a horse-drawn buggy. There's a street sign depicting a horse and buggy on that street.

[@drake7626]

My girlfriend is Mennonite and her and her family refers to me as English

[@iamsandrewsmith]

That county's name: close! It's jee-YOGG-a, with a clear separation into three syllables. Of course, these days it's turning into suburbs of Cleveland, so the "yankee"-spouting Amish community there may be endangered.

[@Lancer498]

Cause Americans are of English descent. Seems pretty straightforward.

[@Iceican]

honestly it's like refering to mexicans as spaniards

[@philsophkenny]

❤

[@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617]

Because most of them are.

[@noahbrock349]

Most Americans are not of pure English blood anymore.

[@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617]

@noahbrock349 not pure but it's still the biggest ancestral group in the US no matter how much they try and deny it.

[@eodyn7]

@@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617bruh... the literal census disagrees with you. German is the largest ethnic group in the US. Have you ever been to the Midwest???

[@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617]

@eodyn7 no germanic not German. And remember its based on self reports not DNA. According to DNA there are far more are of British and even English ancestry.

[@vorynrosethorn903]

The English also count as a Germanic people. Genetically most Americans are majority English, with a fair amount of Scot mixed in, it's just popular to individualise yourself by identifying with any outside mixing, a large portion of hyphenated Americans are 80%+ English in actual ancestry, which by the way is a stereotype abroad as the Scots, Irish and Italians have to deal with phoney caricatures of themselves who look and act nothing alike telling them about how like them they are. The Scots especially are not keen, but it can get very messy in Ireland and the supposed Irish ancestry is often Ulster-Irish (so actually Scottish) and Americans who've gone into a loyalist pub and hailed the IRA, or a republican one and gone on about love of the Royal family are very common. Cabbies like you however as you tip well.

[@jimm6095]

What does Canada have to with this? I've never hesrd of Amish in Canada? Menonites here in Canada do not call non Menonites English!

[@Sk8Betty.]

Outside the Amish way, Yankee is almost always used as an insult. It’s become a way for Brits to poke fun at or take the piss out of us, and that’s fine. Limeys. But from one American to another, the word Yankee can start some bs.. it leans into territorial pissing. And then there’s the whole NY Yankees situation being that they’re the Dallas Cowboys of baseball lol I digress. Great vid. Love you lots ❤️🇺🇸🍿

[@Joe-rb8ju]

I hear it a lot when people want to insult my intelligence. Sad thing is most of the people who try, I would agree with them on most things. Got to provide the context prove their statement correct was a recent joy. Cheers.

[@Joe-rb8ju]

The cowboys are the Yankees of the NFL, maybe if they won more. (Yankee fan but my son was born in Dallas)

[@Joker-no1uh]

I've never heard anyone use Yankee as an insult or be insulted by it, besides a rebel/southerner. The North called themselves Yankees. A rebel is an insult because you're calling them a traitor.

[@Joe-rb8ju]

@@Joker-no1uh I’m from Jersey. Never heard anyone call another person a yank. A lot of southern people consider themselves rebels. The lost cause myth glorifies a history that never happened.

[@Joker-no1uh]

@@Joe-rb8ju that's because you weren't alive during the Civil War. The Union soldiers were called Yanks. Rebels are just traitors/losers. Yankees are loyal/winners.

[@laladoopsy]

One of the things that Simpsons taught me was that Amish called Americans English.

[@Joseph-pz5bo]

How about the Swiss armish?

[@bernhardschmalhofer855]

I guess that they also call outsiders English.