Why do the New Combos Work? Side-by-Side Comparison

[@deskcombo]

The music in this video is an extended version of the 'Dan Infinite' track. The MP3 is available to all tier levels over on patreon. Thanks for watching.

[@omaryancy6775]

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[@javjuegos_8917]

How did you go back to previous patches without going to trials?

[@BoxingTed]

Dan's "I hate you!" at the end was perfect.

[@nicktronson2977]

"I love you" would have been better.

[@BoxingTed]

@@nicktronson2977 To me it sounded like he was mad at capcom for taking away his infinite. "I hate you" seemed very apropriate.

[@pokeaust7800]

@@BoxingTed The thing is the red fireball also opens up new combo routes in including high damage enders to the infinite

[@pastorjay75]

Had me laughing too 🤣 😂

[@BoxingTed]

@@pokeaust7800 Although those extensions look cool, I think we can all agree that an infinite does more damage than any standard combo ender (even that stupid gen infinite in omega sf4)

[@Gamersls]

Desk is secretly a capcom developer , teaching us the way 🙏🏻❤️

[@009pru]

I highly believe this

[@GLaSSesNOlenses]

I'm a conspiracy theorist...and he definitely got me grabbing my tin foil hat 🤔❓❓❓❓❓

[@javjuegos_8917]

He went back to other versions of the game without going to the trials, explain that

[@mangakapat8281]

This is the way !😊

[@Sho_Ryu_Ken]

Ikr lol

[@mistashadow]

What a creative way to address the Danfinite.

[@Stinkyremy]

I was thinking the exact same. They could have done anything to counter it, like more pushback after 2 or 3 gadukens, similar to how they did kens throw loops, but this random gaduken also kind of ties into dans stupid mistake style.

[@Toomnyusernae]

@@Stinkyremy No flash dp? No problem. Random red fireball is a great nod to old SFII red fireball history. Can even suggest he's finally at their level lol.

[@brandonsellers1076]

@@Toomnyusernae he's at their level "randomly" lol. A glimpse of greatness in the midst of his greatness ends up messing up his greatness. So Dan...🤣

[@JinTheAceStar]

it's been 6 years since Capcom has made wise design choices.

[@Sakaki98]

More like a lazy way that adds unnecessary RNG to a competitive fighting game when they could’ve just cut the hitstun of one of the moves involved by a frame or two to get rid of the Danfinite 🙄

[@MitoNova583]

I like how Red Gadouken seems to be a callback to how Ryu in earlier SFII versions had a rare chance to throw a red Hadouken that was just a visual Easter egg (before it was incorporated as Shakunetsu Hadouken) It also making the Danfinite randomly fail is just really funny to me personally

[@MansMan42069]

And also a callback to the Alpha series where there was a random chance his Koryuken would flash white and it would be invincible.

[@watchulookinat271]

You could recall that Dan actually has tried using the Satsui no Hado before. This might be the reason why they made the red one showed up randomly probably that he can use it but not at will

[@MusicoftheDamned]

@@watchulookinat271 That would also make sense and be another nice nod to history given how much and how deeply he wanted to kill Sagat for years as revenge for his father's death at Sagat's hands, to the point that it's why Gouken ultimately kicked him out in the place. While Dan eventually got over that after he "beat" Sagat (who threw the fight because of how revenge-obsessed he saw Dan was), strong feelings like that tend not to just to completely vanish.

[@KaitouKaiju]

It's funny. It's a buff that nerfs him. That's the most Dan thing ever

[@Hotobu]

@@MansMan42069 Was that random, or was that with a perfect input?

[@ArcRay20]

i like that their fix for the Dan infinite was to not add extra push back or anything that would normally be done, just gave him a "new move" that pops up eventually to interrupt.

[@egebamyasi2929]

That Dan change is a textbook example of a creative nerf

[@gbt2009]

It's great because outside of the Infinite it's a direct buff. But it randomly stops the infinite. Dan is probably the only character that gets nerfed by a buff.

[@billyw3130]

@@gbt2009 and buffed by a nerf...

[@yura1384.]

@@billyw3130 mk11 geras inters the the chat😂

[@vincentlin9926]

The Dan infinite combo song draws me here.

[@shirazpervez2405]

Man I can't imagine the amount of work you put in! Great Great! Video!

[@Siepher83]

I'd just like to point out that right now I'm watching Xian try to do that Nash combo (in the background at the end from the last video) and dam it looks hard as hell

[@Greenalink]

Danfinite users getting red gadouken during infinite combo attempt. "God 'Dan' it" Loving these comparisons.

[@MusicoftheDamned]

I am pleasantly surprised that Capcom found a nice way to get rid of the Dan's infinite without going to their beloved default option of "sabotage Dan and nerf him into the ground because he's a joke character."

[@Trimint123]

Well, Capcom did noted themselves to not do nerfs and only do buffs, so they nerfed Danfinite with a buff. Dan still be able to infinite still, but the random red fireball chance will fail his infinite. I think you can still combo finisher into it, though.

[@MusicoftheDamned]

@@Trimint123 I see. Well, if true about Capcom's design philosophy change, then that's quite welcome news to hear. I don't even particularly care for Dan, and I also try to be realistic about the fact that, in addition to being far easier to do, sometimes nerfs *are* needed even more mundane non-Marvel-esque in not literally broken circumstances, e.g. _SF4:AE_ Yun legitimately being idiotic as hell upon release. Perhaps Capcom learned from its folly (for once) given that it was in _SF4_ of course where Capcom tried to, among other things, nerf Dan into the ground. Despite their attempts, Dan still was somehow *not* the worst character in the game by the end of the _SF4_ editions just because a few other characters were so fundamentally broken and weak, e.g. Dee Jay being a poor man's Jamaican Guile. I am personally fine if Dan *is* the weakest character in whatever game he's in and if that is still Capcom's ultimate goal, but if that is so, then it's a goal that definitely seems better off achieved by at least trying to buff the other weaker characters first than by figuratively breaking Dan's arms & legs. Ideally, even the weakest character in any game should be still be "good" or at least functional.

[@shuheihisagi7514]

So uhh when are we gonna get the red hadoken Combo video?

[@sean_image]

It looks like he has way more recovery after the red one so idk if you can combo after it lands. But if anyone can figure a way around that out it will definitely be Desk!

[@GLaSSesNOlenses]

@@sean_image 💯

[@HeavyMetalLink05]

@@sean_image The recovery isn't nearly as bad you it looks. You can easily combo into any of his special moves from it in the corner, gotta use Dan kicks from mid screen tho

[@lewdman2657]

@@sean_image Dan can combo after it anywhere on the screen. Though what juggles you can get off it depend on how far away Dan is from the opponent when it hits and if you're midscreen or in the corner.

[@brandonsellers1076]

@@sean_image the massive float state of the opponent leaves you to do a mk dan-kick into upper and then super if you have the meter. You can even cancel into trigger after red fireball for a better visual confirm then use trigger shenanigans or dash up dan-punches into super.

[@kiri9089]

That’s the best way they could have nerfed the Dan Infinite. It’s still in the game, still possible, but you can’t do it forever. Still the satisfaction of the infinite, but more balance so that you don’t trap you opponent with one setup for the rest of the round, and the knockdown isn’t that bad, if you can v trigger after it, then it’s probably a setup too. I’m impressed Capcom, well done.

[@LaPunaisedu31]

i thought i was going insane and started hearing dan's voice in my head

[@mappybc6097]

Gief just standing there as a punching bag at the end is a perfect summation of the character in S5.

[@strifefresh3998]

Keep in mind people..... Akira is coming so are the rival School skills

[@CrystalMang0]

Random comment but okay

[@ThePrototype047]

I really like this kind of comparison video

[@cordellriemer5177]

But the real question is. Can you combo after the red gadoken?

[@Jawad7178]

Yes

[@DuvJones]

Sort of, because of the knock-back and air time, you can combo after it, but really at this point you are finishing the combo since you can't juggle forever. It pretty much just makes the danfinite an average loop than an infinite.

[@OKIGorgon]

2:39 Now I understand the choice of BGM.

[@hakandemir5586]

it was excellent work. Congratulations

[@o0toxic0o1]

I really appreciate this video, thank you!

[@joeresio]

That Dan level music remix from SFalpha 3 is fire af

[@Neo-Kable]

This is godlike desk. Good stuff.

[@pastorjay75]

Excellent video brother Desk

[@davidmorales5766]

musician, gamer, man of the people's, friend of chairs and setups, combo extraordinaire... 😎🥊🥊

[@colmopi]

love your work , thanks a lot for this content

[@virgilvincentlam]

Amazing video. Thank you Desk.

[@SinKiske]

akuma clip, desk did EX RED FIREBALL for pre-patch, that's awesome :)

[@Charion-50]

That's a creative way to fix the infinite. They'd kept it in but balanced it by having the Red Gadouken being a random chance so I'm all in for that.

[@yami-kay9099]

Its almost amazing how capcoms making the end of the games life span the most fun. On a actually good note though, I love the fix to danfinite. That was a genius idea changing just the fire ball at random. Not actually a Nerf.

[@austink.9223]

This video is god like. This is the kind of video quality I would expect from Capcom to show off balance changes

[@fivefierce8754]

That's possibly the best fix to an infinite ever.

[@peerlessneedle4272]

Imagine if this was the game at launch

[@dragonviggo]

good idea the comparaison. It's tough to find videos like this. Can you make this kind of videos each patch who will be release ? Thank you ^^

[@ItsAkile]

Alot the were things I tried to connect for sure, I'm even more pump to see what Oro and Akira can do, glad Dan loop isnt completely gone, thats the right way to do it like I told AS about Giovanna infinite

[@TheRealFreshOJ]

He's not just a combo master. He's not just a musician. Desk is......DESK! He is one of one! #trueFGClegend

[@joshtorrez5186]

So what's going is they are finally connecting

[@kilamkam]

Am I the only one that gets that "Awww that's it?" feeling when his vids end? lol....

[@SolidSonicTH]

Interesting way to patch that infinite. You get a buffed move but at the expense of the loop.

[@goldend-pad5257]

NRS need to take notes on how to patch thier games from capcom here.

[@n1hondude]

I love this changes, we slowly getting that MAHVEL update, patch by patch!! Love this Dan change without removing the infinite!! I wish they added more juggles properties and other quality of life changes Ed VS1 cancelable when charged and aerial version Falke VS1 airborne, OTG ground shot Poison more juggle after jmp MP and jmp MK, OTG ground whip

[@Hankola]

Soul Calibur and Street Fighter are now Tekken.

[@ImmaAriesBaby1]

I really wonder what the EX red fireball properties will be

[@CPTHAP]

Capcom: We made Dan's infinite less infinite, but still pretty absurd.

[@KyokujiFGC]

I mean, the only way you ever get hit by it is if you get dizzied in the corner, and at that point, you deserve to eat it.

[@Kalebent]

I love the Dan remix. Haha!

[@Kanzuki]

Did you record the pre patch combos beforehand? It just seems you knew those combos would work in a patch

[@Laerei]

There's couple of ways. One is to revert to previous patch and record offline. The other is to select trials from previous seasons as they use frames and moves from the old seasons. Like, if you select season 1 trials for Balrog, he still has his old charge moves that got changed to regular input in later seasons.

[@MoonyDrak]

It's most likely done on a different device with the game unupdated.

[@MrZappabomber]

Someday, it will be the same as marvel vs capcom. Every juggle is connected!

[@yengyang5870]

Awesome bgm

[@bobbybowen9489]

Love this video idea

[@porfidev]

Nice thats why yesterday ken hits me standing far

[@kenmast8391]

Only desk can make a video where he uses his own music and his own found combos. Legendary

[@GLaSSesNOlenses]

First things first...at what he does? Desk is the GOAT 🐐 Secondly, I gotta learn the Mika combo, for real. Saving this video for sure

[@Bleachpie8]

Another awesome video....

[@LosZavion]

All I hear is *POW* Gadouken *POW* Gadouken *POW* Gadouken

[@brandoncave-wynter6987]

Why did the red have to be random? They could’ve made it active after three hadoukens. Also giving him another aspect of his projectile. V-Skill activate after red and combo end. This still gives players satisfaction of completing a combo without cheapening the cheap infinite.

[@Nhan6241]

It’d be a bigger nerf for Dan. Also you can activate Red Gadoken by pressing hcf.p or just framed hcf.p.

[@deniakio]

Great content you have there

[@SidneyMosley]

Anybody: * gets hit by an extended combo * Also Anybody: *"HOW DOES THAT HIT NOW?! MAKE THIS MAKE SENSE!"* Desk: _'Ight bet."_

[@tiomark1172]

We LIKE JUGGLES!!

[@abuthearabe]

Clever way to "nerf" Dan without cripple him

[@HoDoBoDo]

I feel like Capcom actually know how to balance their character's (A except for some other characters).

[@jreschke5]

Desk is the best no doubt

[@MadSnake123]

Man, i really hate that a lot of this new fun juggles were just recently added ... it goes to tell you how "dry" or "linear" first season was... i jumped at 3 where things were already better, but damn, the first years were a struggle in both gameplay and fun department.

[@rymat]

I got in with vanilla and man, it was really rough. I ended up dropping it after a bit and didn't return much until AE. Definitely playing a lot more these days.

[@XOSKELENTON]

Exactly it took them this long to to add some sauce to this dry ass game and not to mention the net code is still shit the only reason people still support this game is because Capcom carried it with money and esports.

[@abgtoko2971]

capcom doing very good everytime love it

[@Gonzakoable]

Basically they just added more juggle on hit?

[@SFtheWolf]

if nothing else that's the best way I've seen to patch out an infinite

[@ThaProd1gy]

I'm still waiting to see who that 5 mystery character is and I'm hoping its either dudley or Makoto

[@Kuzna22]

That would be terrible. Why hide then if they were no one special. I'm thinking Kyo from King of Fighters

[@taranjotwani]

@desk Do you think you would have done the Dan Infinite theme if the infinite was never in the game? I mean if the red fireball fix was already in place.

[@clackman622]

Capcom to Ryu "We love you!"

[@5part4]

So that was how they fix the infinite na red fireball wtf 🤣. So basically it can still happen. After the fireball can you vtrigger into 3 kicks ex dp

[@spyder2238]

The god has posted another video

[@hollowedboi5937]

So dan’s infinite is still possible, but highly improbable the longer it goes on

[@dmtmediabrothers]

Anybody else fast forward to dans part

[@ElectTheMusic]

Noice! *secretly cries in kage*

[@YoshiPet8]

Nerfing the infinite with a buff is awesome

[@felipebrasil5]

nice the king of fighters video... i mean.... wait what? hold on

[@JamesJSwiftJay]

Why is Laura like magneto with some of her combos

[@yoseflopez5141]

Lol this whole video featured Dan 😂

[@javjuegos_8917]

How did you go back to previous patches without going to trials?

[@MrStalyn]

What is juggle potential?

[@ulmatuber]

hey desk whats the best way to buy your music?

[@GlaZim]

Are you saying that Laura's V-skill 2 is actually usefull now?

[@yuggor]

Yeah, Capcom had to try and destroy Dan's ultimate improvement...

[@KaitouKaiju]

Desk: Is my timing off? No, it is the game that is wrong.

[@angelkillermacho1237]

New patch was basically like. Let’s make the combos have a bit more sense

[@VannsTHeir]

Because the new devs care thats why

[@robertflannery4883]

Dans red fire ball is a just frame thing

[@alexsaron7838]

Wow dan infinite music I love that🥰🥰

[@miguelbernal7762]

fire

[@defhijk]

last(最後の) i hate you(capcom) is good(良いね)w

[@rodrigoxavier3522]

O realy love this kind of vídeo

[@goodday4221]

nice, so i only have to sit through 11 seconds of Dan infinite and then hope i don't read wrong and get mixed up into another infinite

[@mytzplik]

NEW COMBOS! Fang players:.....

[@sleepylo3358]

Patch breakdowns like this are what people want. Tired of seeing someone’s face reading and presenting only the new footage alone because they don’t wait to update.

[@numa2k147]

Stop complaining and do it yourself then.

[@AlmostAwakened]

Wonder how you managed to get the previous patch footage after the patch?

[@Davethe3rd]

I think you can adjust the version number in training mode...

[@Dresfvae]

He probably has both ps4 and pc. Or he just read the patch notes then did a basic combo update the game and saw what kind of new stuff he can do with it

[@mantic5423]

Instead of getting rid of the infinite. They just made it stop working sometimes

[@Hailstormful]

So they "nerfed" Dan by giving him Luigi's Misfire Torpedo?

[@GameGameHeaven]

Another "LOL/Wow"-video. Any chance for a Fighting EX Layer Another Dash video?

[@malcovich_games]

*Danfinite ended by red fireball* "I HATE YOU!!"

[@canaldesugestoesa6651]

I was disappointed, I thought it was new blows added to the combos, but it only improved the damage.