Why do the pros play Sonya? (An analytical look on Pro Play)

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NotParadox

6 жыл бұрын

Sonya is one of the strongest solo laners and is overall a beast in many aspects of the game. This is why the pros pick her and a little bit on how she is used.
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@pandy3848
@pandy3848 5 жыл бұрын
I was so confused at the beginning when both teams only had 4 heroes showing up lol.
@Mariahnacarey
@Mariahnacarey 6 жыл бұрын
Video idea, "Why don't the pros play x hero?" Like an opposite of this series.
@mattdignan8875
@mattdignan8875 6 жыл бұрын
Love your idea :P
@joaovictor3312
@joaovictor3312 5 жыл бұрын
I'd totally watch that
@th3rapy_gamer271
@th3rapy_gamer271 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, was recomended I looked for your vids, since I've only started playing Hots recently. Thanks for some great guides and analysis! Keep up the good work!
@byronbluett
@byronbluett 6 жыл бұрын
Keep making the awesome vids good sir. My friends and I are practicing to try our hands in team league together, and much of your insights are helping.
@apocalypse_march1499
@apocalypse_march1499 6 жыл бұрын
Great solo laner in hero league? Please, people keep crying about my solo laning while they die like morons and say:why didint you help us on the fight? 1st: I'm laning 2nd: you went on a fight for no reason, no camp no objective just your poor placement. Gets reported and silenced for 3 days really love it
@Phataku
@Phataku 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Love the deep dives on what you should be doing and when. Sometimes, advice from pro games doesn't really help with the quickmatch trash most of us end up playing with. But it gives you something to aim for as you get better and rank up.
@dmgisi
@dmgisi 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to tell you, but it doesn't matter how well you play in QM. The better you play, the more trash matchmaking will throw at you, expecting you to carry. The focus is on finding quick matches, not finding evenly skilled players, and the average, common player, is pretty bad.
@Phataku
@Phataku 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not trying to say I carry, but I definitely feel that sometimes I'm the only one trying.
@Aucacoyan
@Aucacoyan 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I was expecting something about Sonya. I do want to get better with her
@dmczx
@dmczx 6 жыл бұрын
very good vid as usual, thank you for sharing
@santiagoleyva4448
@santiagoleyva4448 6 жыл бұрын
you sir, have earned yourself a new subscriber. Great content
@mintx1720
@mintx1720 6 жыл бұрын
I think she's 90% a caster. That's why spell damage reduction is so good against her.
@zonnschijne1232
@zonnschijne1232 6 жыл бұрын
Draft Tyrande, definitely.
@Dootje351
@Dootje351 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I've played my fair share of Sonya games but still learned from this. Can you do Maiev too?
@mattiswahlby6194
@mattiswahlby6194 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Keep it up :)
@Hippo118
@Hippo118 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video of the top solo laners and who they beat/are beaten by? I feel like I see this a lot in draft where my team drafts a losing solo lane pick based on who the other team has already picked.
@ObscureJester
@ObscureJester 5 жыл бұрын
how is she after the patch? feats at 4 and 7 are different now.
@eijikamiya5779
@eijikamiya5779 6 жыл бұрын
I really like your vids, they are really insightful. Can you do one for tracer next? A
@Perfexxiion
@Perfexxiion 6 жыл бұрын
plan on doing more videos on Dekard now that he's released?
@apocalypse_march1499
@apocalypse_march1499 6 жыл бұрын
The enemy team had arthas and kel'thuzad so I picked E removes slows and roots, was it the right pick?
@evilben3810
@evilben3810 6 жыл бұрын
she does crazy amount of single target damage. if you can push someone out of lane (which isn't that hard) and you feel safe you can take a tower or two easily by spamming W into it. works a lot better in lower ranks or QM where you are a lot less likely to get rotated on.
@Dylailahma
@Dylailahma 6 жыл бұрын
actually these dudes are not called "goatmen". These are the Khazra from Diablo 3. It's a Diablo-map though ;) Keep up the great work, helps a lot :) greetings from Germany
@NotParadox
@NotParadox 6 жыл бұрын
broke Vulture the first time you see them in D3 they call them goatmen. But you are not wrong. I just thought it was a funny name that was officially used
@MaxinRudy
@MaxinRudy 5 жыл бұрын
Goatman is their race. Khara is the clan
@Masheen9
@Masheen9 6 жыл бұрын
Spin to win baby!
@TheDovahkinia
@TheDovahkinia 6 жыл бұрын
Sonya is best waifu
@kresovk5
@kresovk5 6 жыл бұрын
There are 3 way to get Fury as Sonya (without talents) 1. AA damage 2. Spear hit 3. Getting damaged Therefore, easiest way to keep WotB going on is to solo minion wave and get constantly damaged by them. There is of course heroes who do rapid damage (Tracer, Tassadar, etc.), but this is a general.
@BeesNTrees47
@BeesNTrees47 6 жыл бұрын
taking damage keeps beserker going
@diegomineiro
@diegomineiro 6 жыл бұрын
That white eye-burning screen the whole video though...
@kemonoautumnfall6331
@kemonoautumnfall6331 6 жыл бұрын
Please do Johanna and Dehaka please. . . . . I am selfish, cuz they are most played as a tank main.
@shadowgamer4306
@shadowgamer4306 6 жыл бұрын
Good video can you make one for stukov if you haven t btw iam a new subscriber
@AlexTheMadCorpseman
@AlexTheMadCorpseman 6 жыл бұрын
He has, and it was actually one of the first videos on HotS he made.
@shadowgamer4306
@shadowgamer4306 6 жыл бұрын
BorisTheCapricorn thnx
@Tekshipie
@Tekshipie 6 жыл бұрын
32:50 Actually, I'd say that the Punisher is at about 81% health :P
@vladrootgmailcom
@vladrootgmailcom 5 жыл бұрын
32:47 - he's 81%. It's on the right side of the screen - his life with exact percentage :)
@KenjiVdusc
@KenjiVdusc 5 жыл бұрын
His entire life makes sense now O_O
@SinerAthin
@SinerAthin 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, NotParadox, why is Banning heroes an actual game mechanic in HOTS? Is it a thing in other MOBAS too? What were the devs thoughts behind introducing the banning mechanic in the first place? Always been curious about the reasons behind Banning as a mechanic.
@GisorsTheRet
@GisorsTheRet 6 жыл бұрын
Every Moba i know so far have this Mechanic. It adds a strategic element before the match begins and make the whole game deeper in terms of complexity and comfort. In fact there are many reasons you want to ban a Hero because he/she is: 1. actually very strong in the current meta, hard to counter or annoying to play against. 2. very strong on the map you want to play and you dont have firstpick to get them by yourself 3. counters your setup of heroes you want to play 4. synergises extremly well with heroes they have all ready picked 5. for proplay: denies the enemy his favorite hero where you know he is extreme good with. 6. Get sure that your teammate not trolls with his murky he prepicked :D
@HimariHimatsu
@HimariHimatsu 6 жыл бұрын
it's a way to force the enemy team to adapt and pick something else if their draft combo got ruined
@LostTwinz
@LostTwinz 5 жыл бұрын
not to mention it helps people to not have one tricks
@kly8105
@kly8105 5 жыл бұрын
I think SinerAthin is the only one who doesn't know this or doesn't google. But the thing i want to know after reading his comment is who came up with banning first, was it LoL? Dota 2? i can't remember Dota 1 ever implementing a ban system.
@JIerark
@JIerark 6 жыл бұрын
Strange enough whirlwind doesnt generate fury if you hit stuff
@samseloo4962
@samseloo4962 4 жыл бұрын
I adore Sonya. She is the best hero to carry low rank and even in solo qm. When you play Sonya soaking and jungling you set up the game so well that you can roam and dive for kills
@MrGoogle87
@MrGoogle87 6 жыл бұрын
Level 4 and 7 talents are now in lvl 7 both. Dont know which to choose
@HimariHimatsu
@HimariHimatsu 6 жыл бұрын
spin build is currently the best
@ali.ali.1218
@ali.ali.1218 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but I prefer Artanis instead of Sonya - especialy after her "skills 4-7" switch.
@brianyi6709
@brianyi6709 6 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe you haven’t done tyrael yet lol
@Hermitstatus
@Hermitstatus 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Kratos was in this game.
@ruidogeothuld3118
@ruidogeothuld3118 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! She didn't use E on camps. Why?
@chinaspyware
@chinaspyware 5 жыл бұрын
Knowing that once she left lane, the Blaze & Johanna would come to fight her, so she'd have it up to sustain through that fight while her team rotated back up to help. If the Sonya used it early, it's down and she doesn't survive, Blaze & Johanna take the camp right as objective is going off and now her team has to fight 4v5 over objective with a lane pushing or just give the objective up entirely.
@imamountainheadtoo
@imamountainheadtoo 6 жыл бұрын
SONYA IS BAE ❤️ FIRST MAIN
@kemonoautumnfall6331
@kemonoautumnfall6331 6 жыл бұрын
Also, when I see Sonya, I pick Rexxar, because her spins are stopped with a Charge and Misa can be healed.
@evilben3810
@evilben3810 6 жыл бұрын
rexxar is pretty good against her as long as you hold onto your stun to stop the spin. she can kill rexxar really quickly if you step out, though.
@kemonoautumnfall6331
@kemonoautumnfall6331 6 жыл бұрын
evilben And based on my experience, Beastial Wrath outmatches Sonya's Rage, as long as Charge is used for her spin well.
@VDViktor
@VDViktor 6 жыл бұрын
Arthas video plsssss
@jgcooper
@jgcooper 6 жыл бұрын
great now give me that offlane Blaze vid
@cerakful
@cerakful 6 жыл бұрын
could you update the talents ? pls :)
@HimariHimatsu
@HimariHimatsu 6 жыл бұрын
spin build is currently the best
@kamilnowak9750
@kamilnowak9750 6 жыл бұрын
Homer12346 depends on comp
@riskingeuphoria
@riskingeuphoria 6 жыл бұрын
leap means you one shot liming, thats why you should get it. Leap is not good for starting wombo's
@mwperk02
@mwperk02 6 жыл бұрын
Goatmen? I think you will find the proper term is Khazra
@GriffonksxEX
@GriffonksxEX 6 жыл бұрын
WHy is the website Sonya portrait so ugly?
@sneakysnickersnoopy
@sneakysnickersnoopy 6 жыл бұрын
Griffonksx Ex I mean.. she is sort of a savage... do savages look pretty usually or am I missing something?
@theslavik453
@theslavik453 6 жыл бұрын
My shot caller will never allow me to play Sonya, she is weak.... idk how to convince him that he is wrong...
@TylerTried
@TylerTried 6 жыл бұрын
Have him watch this.
@theslavik453
@theslavik453 6 жыл бұрын
Tyler Lucas I mean she is the best solo laner right now.
@ScarletEdge
@ScarletEdge 6 жыл бұрын
Change shot caller. He seems to be too stuck on his stereotypes.
@TylerTried
@TylerTried 6 жыл бұрын
She has her counters, but she is undeniably strong. There is no champ that should be taken 100% of the time. That being said, as the bloke said before me, if your shot caller watches this and still sticks to their guns, then you should consider a new shot caller. A shot caller that refuses to take in new data will cause a couple of issues. More predictable by your opposition, more likely to not take into account hero and map changes from patches, and also more prone to less opportune shot calling when changes in metas occur.
@theslavik453
@theslavik453 6 жыл бұрын
All wonderful suggestions but as a Gaming Community/eSport team Founder, right now we are only in the try out phase. He is a wonderful tank but I know the true shot caller will agree with Sonya being played often
@YasenBoyadzhiev
@YasenBoyadzhiev 6 жыл бұрын
It's 81%. 😂🤣😄
@SuperGreenqueen
@SuperGreenqueen 6 жыл бұрын
afarter
@benplus2053
@benplus2053 6 жыл бұрын
27:03 i really appreciate your chauvinist remark.
@Luckyener
@Luckyener 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Totally uncalled for. I thought he was better than this
@holyfingshit
@holyfingshit 5 жыл бұрын
yeah, although he likely didnt realize that saying that is inherently chauvinistic, hopefully he realizes now?
@buborka7441
@buborka7441 6 жыл бұрын
She gets beat by Sonya and artanis as well as zagara
@kamilnowak9750
@kamilnowak9750 6 жыл бұрын
You have no idea about sonya. 20lvl Q talent is useless. Using E doesnt make wrath of bersherker longer. Shot of fury popular talent? Are you kidding? Maybe on bronze. Every single Ability deals damage to Structures unless stated otherwise, how could you not know it? I could point so many thing you said wrong. In whole video so many basic mistakes. Next time try hero, then make video.
@HimariHimatsu
@HimariHimatsu 6 жыл бұрын
the q talent at 20 is the least useful talent, but it is still pickable by a lot you are correct using e does not generate fury shot of fury was actually the meta talent before people just realised spin build is just better then you follow up by just insulting him when you can't do a video yourself
@kamilnowak9750
@kamilnowak9750 6 жыл бұрын
Yup, why e talent doesnt make bersherker longer, It is obvious, the relationship between genereting fury and bersherker is crucial but author doesnt know it at all, how fury is generated? By taking dmg but again author doesnt know it. he should start learn complete basics then watch hgc there's a lot more mistakes in this video. I didnt want to do 20 point list. He did video about PRO Sonya but he never played Sonya.
@HimariHimatsu
@HimariHimatsu 6 жыл бұрын
kinda sad you on'y know 1 way to generate fury when you are talking down on everyone else, there is actually 4 ways to generate fury, see if you can figure it out big boy
@kamilnowak9750
@kamilnowak9750 6 жыл бұрын
Homer12346 i did not say that at all, read with understanding what I wrote. why e talent doesnt make bersherker longer