Why do they keep doing this! New MN78

This RC Jeep is VERY Cheap, but it has 1 really annoying problem!... well, maybe more than 1 lol. It's the NEW MN78 fro MN Models. Passed experience has told me that their RC Cars never really perform as well as they look!
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[@TomleyRC]

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[@idworkhard]

all of the shortcomings are forgiven for the sheer beauty of the body and potential of this truck. The plastics are good, the battery compartment is in the right place and a number of tire/wheel choices to choose from + the electronics are cheap enough to swap out to something decent. I'm happy MN came up with it...now I will have to buy it.

[@1598hi]

Don't do it. No parts availability it has no potential. Just get a competent builders kit and buy a cherokee hard body

[@mikeupton5406]

That is a really scale rendition of a Jeep Cherokee. Very cool review.

[@1598hi]

That's definitely the curb appeal of this rig. The hardbody and the light kit are the beginning and the end of the pros though!

[@muskokamike127]

"It's a bit too bouncy" ya think? lol.....it bounces around more than the opening scenes for baywatch!!!!

[@yannn5541]

90' baywatch is proof that plastic is actually bouncy, wonder where she is now 😄

[@muskokamike127]

@@yannn5541 she? you mean they? lol....they ALL ran during the opening sequence hahaha

[@steverodarte3961]

Hi there from California! So I just had the mn78 out in the yard because I'd say it's one of the best mn models yet. Maybe I received a newer version? Anyhow, thank you as always for the content!

[@semperatis]

I think that even WPL's new 16A esc would help this out no end Phil.

[@Jeeplee_rc]

The mn99 land rover was my first scale crawler. It's just the body mounted on a full custom rock bouncer chassis now.

[@Wild_Buggy]

This would be the perfect gift for a kid to play in his backyard

[@VermontScaleCustoms]

I absolutely LOVED my MN99 when I got it. More so than my WPL stuff because it checked off all the boxes for me. So, if it's anything like the MN99/s, everyone will be modding these with ALL the parts. BUT, since there seems to be space limitations with the newly designed skid plate. I wonder how much luck people will have cramming a 370 motor in there with a gearbox and still have a complete interior. Then one has to ask themselves if it's worth the massive investment of time & money to get one running at peak performance. Great beginner/intermediate/scale enthusiasts kit. However, much to be considered. I have also heard there are currently problems with shipping. So people may want to wait a bit longer until they hear some success stories.

[@littlesargent1247]

I love the looks of it, I’m a major xj fan, so I might consider getting one and upgrading it

[@1598hi]

No aftermarket parts support. Buy a competent 1:10 scale builders kit and buy an injora xj hardbody if you want a fair scale look. This is not worth your time

[@RC-Antics-JM]

Good video, pity about the performance of the car. Good that you save us buying it.

[@obsidiannightwolfe13]

When will you be doing a review on their new model of mn128. The size looks closer to the 86 and it looks like a good base to build up😊

[@obsidiannightwolfe13]

Or even an update on what helped fix this one to make it better

[@vainparasite]

To be fair a real model on that type of incline and terrain would probably be the same 👍 i had a 4.0l back in the 90s and it was great 👍👍

[@Doritune.rcdrift]

As always, thanks for the honest no BS review…. I’ll wait for the kit version, from experience the mn90 was better as a kit so fingers crossed This will be the same!

[@marinuseltink]

Truck Through Truck!

[@matthewbarker6766]

No driver hmm mr tomley sir 😁😁😁😁 I’m sure with driver it would still have made no difference but …… 😂

[@TomleyRC]

No driver? Did you skip the driving bit 😅

[@brandondecker1881]

Love your content. Can you help point me in the right direction for the best budget full size crawler that I can get in the United States?

[@kodak_jack]

Not a lot of good 1/12 scale bodies around. This one would be nice if you could find parts for the thing.

[@RenegaeDraemeR]

is there somehwere I can find the hub diameter so I can buy new wheels? thanks!

[@blaingunter]

5mm, you can buy 5 to 7mm adapters that will allow for what I think is a more standard hub diameter.

[@dziurkacki]

I'm pretty sure that I saw a different title :) BTW: Thanks to the movie with fake Mini-Z 4x4, I just ordered the SCX24. It's all of the youtubers fault that i have to constantly buy new RC's ;)

[@skrapz79]

Because the production manager kept screaming get that truck through

[@TomleyRC]

😅

[@cumminsfj4586]

Few mods would make the world of difference

[@wordreet]

Do you reckon they forgot how to spell "Tough Truck"?

[@timtheveg]

The only RCs with those turn signals should be BMW ones.

[@mohinhcute8006]

so good

[@reverserestorations26]

I want to buy this for my idiot friend who has a full size silver Cherokee. It has no low speed control either, especially not with him driving. 😂

[@gearreyfamily2742]

when are you gonna review rc crawler 1/18 Bronx

[@jeremyts9032]

Yeah pass, even if it is cheap, you are going to get disappointed eventually, the amount of money you will need to get it good might as well buy an axial or element.

[@OffroadRC_YT]

Just saying, the body is actually 1:12 scale, in reality Jeep Cherokees arent actually that large. The rear door opens!!! Anyway I reckon MN Models put the gearing too high on such a small motor. They must have wanted the same speed as the MN86 but they didnt use the 390 motor. The wheels seem a bit small as well, i reckon a wpl set of wheels would work well

[@muskokamike127]

You are correct. I test drove one years ago and was actually surprised how small it was inside. About the same size as a small pickup like an S10 or Toyota.

[@mraltoid19]

The misconception it seems is that when people hear "Jeep Cherokee" they think "Jeep Grand Cherokee", which is bigger and closer to the Landcruiser in size, not the smaller Jeep Wrangler sized Cherokee. Kinda like in the modern day with the New Bronco...when someone says they got a "New Bronco" they actually mean they bought a New "Bronco Sport" which are smaller than the normal Broncos.

[@OffroadRC_YT]

@@mraltoid19 Oh well that’s just the reality of things🤷‍♂️

[@robhotson1882]

More instructions written in Chinglish

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah… they need to hire someone to translate really. Google translate is not always that reliable 😅

[@ryanthejackalkuhn7]

Thanks for the review Sir, I was going to pull the trigger on that one. Now I won't, looks a bit crap sadly. Greetings

[@fazahirthaha7674]

You totally missed out on all the new changes like transmission, skid plate chassis links etc. Disappointing review. 😏

[@ChiefRickyRC]

Still good for your 1/16 WPL chassis and that's the plan! Thanks TomleyRC 🏁 P.s. the only good MN is Minnesota 😉 🍻 🎣

[@mentula3784]

Looks good, good price for 'em... Amazingly crap performance, think I'll pass on this one (running out of room anyway, thanks Phil...)

[@SteadfastRC]

I would just spend another 90$ or so and just get something from FMS that would trash anything from MN models in every way.

[@KathysFlog]

2nd!

[@TomleyRC]

1st favourite though 😅

[@KathysFlog]

@@TomleyRC 🤩

[@jeffbryner5355]

What do expect from a Chinese knock off website? Lol would you buy a generic iPhone and use it?

[@CorporalHudson]

I think you bashed it more than it deserved for what its worth. Btw the trunk door opens.

[@OffroadRC_YT]

Clearing up some misconceptions.. The body is 1:12. Jeep Cherokees are small. The rear door opens. Mirrors fold inward, this hasn’t been seen on MN Models! Wheels that will fit perfectly are the WPL V1 Wheels. And yes it does need a bigger motor.

[@nicka.9073]

Also, regarding the lights, if you hold down the button that toggles the lights there is a hazard light setting. Some sticky tires on these make a noticeable difference, but still could use more power.

[@1598hi]

If you're going to get a bigger motor you'll need a new trans too. Mine blew up after under 6 hours of very gentle use

[@OffroadRC_YT]

@@1598hi This comment was from a while ago but now that i think about it, changing the motor with the stock transmission isn’t good. I changed the motor for my MN99S and the gears got destitute very quickly.

[@1598hi]

@OffroadRC_YT My transmission failure was recent. The thing served it's purpose for me. I didn't want to go off the deep end and spend a ton of time and money building my own custom scale rc before I knew for certain that I would use it CONSTANTLY. Best of luck if you plan to upgrade this thing, not really much out there for upgrade parts it's an unsupported platform. Maybe you can find a metal gear transmission and some tires that aren't so stiff! I didn't have any luck with finding any good shocks, just some injora ones with zero travel and one blew out after a couple hours of run time total. Maybe at least you could paint it up

[@Isuzu_Paul]

So what I'm hearing is it's performance is scale with the actual vehicle, Cherokees are ok off-road, but in general need a lot of modifications to perform well. Me ad my wife will be ordering a pair of these.i assume stuffing a wpl 2 speed 370 will make a world of difference.

[@just.jose.youtube]

I used that 2 speed on a MN99S and it did make a difference! :)

[@masjuggalo]

Hey man XJs and MJs are awesome...as long as you get the I6

[@Isuzu_Paul]

@@masjuggalo I've owned one before, it was an 88 Laredo. It was a decent vehicle. But to make it off-road worthy requires a lot. I did some simple offroading/ trail riding with it before someone decided to wreck it for me. It was ok.

[@masjuggalo]

@@Isuzu_PaulI like mine definitely room for improvement but compared to not a wrangler it does pretty good stock

[@mattmcnew5080]

It requires nothing. Xj will beat most any vehicle offroad. You don't need major modifications. Xj is one of the most capable offroad vehicles stock

[@potatus5052]

Actually it's pretty good 👍 it comes with a decent transmitter compared to the same priced mn99s

[@BrendonakaShanks]

I like my crawlers with that low down control. It's why I buy crawlers with that and a drag brake. Can't always have what we want out of the box though, hence upgrades. But it's all fun and learning.

[@1598hi]

Doesn't have much for low down control because it is not powerful enough. You'll just hear the motor making noise but won't move until you're past crawl speed

[@AlyToppo1]

It's always good when you upload a new vid keep up the good work

[@TomleyRC]

Thank you

[@DatboiYugo]

It's very much 1:12, the XJ Cherokee is a compact suv while the G Wagen is full sized

[@brsrc759]

I'm bummed out you never did an upgrades video on this one

[@Fonzierc]

Not great really definitely good for scale but as usual crappy modulation 😔 it's okay for indoor use

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah.. shame really. It’s not like this is the first time for them!

[@wordreet]

Though I'm not interested in anything smaller that 1/10th, this isn't bad for the money, especially with that decent scale body including interior. If the shox have "O" rings and a top seal, I'd stick some olive oil in there! I've used it in my Carisma Range Rover and although it's a bit rolly polly due to no sway bars, it's very smooth looking.

[@obsidiannightwolfe13]

They don't. It's the very cheap friction shocks with plastic slots and not even piston. I ordered new shocks and hopefully that helps some with its rolling over

[@wordreet]

@@obsidiannightwolfe13 To be honest, I don't even know what those friction dampers look like.

[@obsidiannightwolfe13]

Like what you would find At walmart

[@wordreet]

@@obsidiannightwolfe13 Ah, well since we don't have Walmart in the UK, that'll be why I never saw one of these toys. I think we have a cheapo store/supermarket chain that's owned by Walmart called Asda.

[@fishnrc294]

This RC falls into the not really good at any one thing & the question is do you leave it like it is or upgrade it. A lot! So is it worth it? And the funny thing is this is how RC enthusiasts are we buy 500$ RC”s & replace so much on it you have a parts pile of all the original stuff that added to that 500$ price. So not only are you loosing that money you are then buying a bunch of custom upgrades included all the electronics. But this is how it always goes it’s part of RC & we have the freedom to do anything with them we want. And as far as hobbies I’ve been an avid mountain biker for over 25 years & bikes were no different buy a bike replace almost everything. But way more expensive. I learned early to learn to work on your own stuff & learned not to buy cheap stuff & paying more is worth it. Basically get the good stuff & have less to worry about & more time riding. Same for RC especially Crawlers don’t waste your money on cheap unreliable stuff that will cause more down time & less trail/Crawling time. It’s definitely not 1:10 scale but I like it not exactly sure why but if I did get one I think I’d just leave it like it is every RC has its niche & this one is just a cruiser not a crawler. Very light trail RC with an emphasis on Light!

[@khalidmuhammad1991]

can't wait for this one modified video 🤩

[@TomleyRC]

Me neither

[@Isuzu_Paul]

@@TomleyRC I do look forward to seeing how you modify this. I had in mind a dumbo Rx x6 dcg with a hobbywing 1060 and maybe some mn99 tires

[@tiagovarao]

For that price, you actually get a lot, so I see no reason for complaints...

[@CorporalHudson]

yes, some people expect the entry level rcs to be the same as the 500usd 1:10 beasts lol

[@caseys_cozy_garage]

Am I the only one that sort of likes the turn signals?

[@rcworldKenya]

I still love this rig, am still modifying mine & am loving the results so far

[@DieTabbi]

have you links to the mods?

[@humancalculator711]

it looks more like a 1/16 or 1/14 but looks really cool still

[@TomleyRC]

Yes agree, not big enough for 1/12

[@The-Warm-voice1359]

This jeep is not 1/12 scale from this vid i think he B.T.W 1/16 TO 1/20 scale

[@OffroadRC_YT]

It is 1:12 scaled. Jeep Cherokee, XJ specifically, are very small compared to the G wagons.

[@grrfy]

I think they were after the word Tough.tbf it's a weird word when you look at it.I wonder how it would work with a esdt70 inside?

[@TomleyRC]

Yes… strange

[@vbspeed7571]

I did 3 box openings in the last two weeks and only got 100 views🤣🤣🤣👍🌍👋man I need 2 mange more I ges 👋Tomley

[@crawlingcarpinto8218]

Has it got proporcional steering?

[@MCsCreations]

Awesome ride and review, Phil! 😃 It does look great... Do you think it's possible to mod it to improve the performance? Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@1598hi]

The RC hobby interested me so I bought ine of these not too long ago just to see if it was a hobby for me before i went off the deep end into big money scale builds... this thing is terrible and nobody should buy it. Mine had less than 6 hours of GENTLE run time before the transmission went. There is also zero aftermarket parts support if you really wanted to build this up. There is no reason for an enthusiast to buy one of these but if you are looking for an inexpensive rtr just to test the waters this isnt worth it. Will break over and over its just plain bad value steer clear.

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

That’s pretty much how my sons MN99s performed! Same issues as that! Great look though!👍🏻

[@potatopower4026]

Its a cheap rc. MN WPL JJRC Fayee all make rc vehicles like this. Cheap, somewhat low quality good for uograding.

I appreciate your videos, I recently bought one of these, anticipating that it would be bad because it is practically the consensus of the internet reviews but I was in for a big surprise when it arrived. Apparently there is a new version, because the car I received has nothing to do with the one in most of the old videos, mine is blue, but it's a metallic blue and not the solid one, It already comes with the rear lights painted and the modulation and torque are very different from what we can see in the video, it works exactly like the recently launched mn82, which I consider to have very good modulation.

[@albertprm21]

I agree with you. I've seen some of the latest mn78 videos and it looks like it has enough torque so there's no need to pull the lever very far. minus MN is social media like Instagram, I'm sure if they had Instagram like WPL they would definitely broadcast small updates on MN78. like WPL C74 which has made several updates..

[@robertwong2412]

Thanks for showing the interior. Now I know for sure they can't fit 1/12 or 6 inch action figures. *lmao*

[@sniffles117]

Clearly they meant a "tough truck". I think you should make it faster like a tough truck and not another boring crawler. Lets see one of these go ham and get bashed. MERICA!!!

[@davidives7204]

I know I will be outnumbered here but, I think it looks Naff, sorry. Save your money and spend it on something you’ll be head over heels with.

[@davidnyondo3419]

hey Tom... are doing any giveaway because in your last video or video before someone texted saying that I text them on telegram and they did say you were doing a giveaway and that I won a kyosho mini z 4x4 and I asked them if they are doing a giveaway and why it wasn't announced on the channel and they said they will after everyone receives their prizes and that I should pay 150$ for shipping so is it you or scam🚫

[@crutch958]

I may have to get one because it looks just like my 2001 cherokee except my fender flares are the same silver as the truck, definately would like to see you upgrade this thing in to a beast lol!!!

[@toddbertram6556]

Cuz if there is any embarrassing habit, its not using your turn signals while on the rocks. Translation 'not great'= 'garbage' nothing better than upgrading garbage

[@THYC]

So happy to see something new from MN 🤤 The new chassis has got some good potential with some soft tyres, oil shocks and some new electronics I think it would do very well on the trail. Throttle modulation on MN RTR trucks has always been 'twitchy' 😅

[@TomleyRC]

Honestly… they’ve had yes to sort it out, and still… 🙄. But… such a nice body 👌

[@THYC]

@@TomleyRC it does look very nice fairplay 🤤 It seems they went for control at one point but then lost the power the old RTRs were known for.

[@acche-rc]

Mn86ks was not twitchy at all out of the box, but they somehow messed it up for their last 2 or 3 models since then

[@joeylandry4933]

What scale is this really? Could it be used with the GI Joe Classified 6 inch figures?

[@anthonytuccillo6274]

Per usual from MN, another beautiful rig but terrible electronics/performance.

[@rcHobbyClips]

I don't like most MN's. Gimme money to tell viewers how I don't like them...

[@mrrctime7079]

relativity bouncy 😅😅 I think that's a under statement 🤣

[@Moggmodels23]

Nice video Tony keep it up your doing well 👍😀

[@hellofromsoutheastalaskarc7517]

Hello from southeast alaska how's your day going bro

[@timearlmountainsiderc6519]

Subscribe. Typical MN but it looks sweet.

[@annaharpley1673]

tomley pls upgrade your mn 78 if you still have it🙂

[@darkki94]

Can you slap a 3650 in it for sh*t and giggles ? LOL

[@iavagabond124]

I had the MN99 and it stopped working on the 3rd run

[@dexterbeattie7884]

I am looking forward to see what you do with it! love the XJ cherokee

[@Starion1982]

be good for a goonies replica

[@TomleyRC]

Hey you guys…..

[@NCMOUNTAINSbackyardRC]

Looking forward to the upgrades 💯👌👍

[@markfessey2282]

I'm quite new to the RC looking for a cheap starter crawler. I was eyeing up the MN78 originally but there's so many other budget crawlers out there. Which would you recommend? Thanks. Love the channel btw 😁

[@1598hi]

If you haven't made a move yet I'd find something else. Definitely not a bad idea to start with a really cheap and just verify that you will actually use it frequently before building your own nice scale setup

[@EdwardChew]

OMG typo on the pokemon card hahaha

[@otonielfrenhan8091]

Gostaria de comprar um voce poderia me ajudar ? Sou do Brasil

[@brownriceprod]

Is there any difference underneath as mn99?

[@mukremincanpolat222]

Why is there no Turkish language?

[@hugomx5387]

How does this one compare to an wpl c series in size

[@hubertdouglas9509]

Horrendous performance... but scale look is good enough

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, potential for sure, and it’s cheap 👌

[@hubertdouglas9509]

Like you said in the video Phil... the price point is low enough that you can make something good out of it with the proper electronics. Nice review 👌

[@TomleyRC]

@@hubertdouglas9509 100% 👍

[@Mississippi_RC_Addict]

The English translations are so strange

[@rcchallenge8626]

I don’t think anybody who has been around for a minute would buy an MN without already having a 1060 and a few other upgrades ready to add. Like you said it’s more a rig for those that love the scale and enjoy upgrading there rigs out the box, certainly plenty of aftermarket parts for them. Gr8 vid for what it is I pref the Cherokee over the Gwagon although whistling diesel has inspired some interest in the Gwagon recently 😂

[@Del350K4]

Why don't MN Models listen? I don't mind for myself because I enjoy the challenge of sorting them out, but you've explained to them where they're going wrong time after time, and they keep repeating the same mistakes.

[@trevorcourt1403]

i don't think the chinese really care do they

[@legozackproduct111]

honestly a simple trans swap and the wpl electronics would make this jeep a lot better.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes 👌

[@auszooker]

@Matt's Off Road Recovery

[@Pablo668]

Bouncy bouncy bouncy! Yeah, needs work with the motor/transmission.

[@coreygrace4856]

Lipo get rid of that low torque issue

[@modelnutty6503]

after my 1st MN D-90, never again. too much like work to get it performing half decently. WPL actually pays attention to customer feedback.

[@marresjepie1887]

Hmm.. I never actually bothered with MN's RTR electronics. Bought the Landy cheap, ripped-out the electronics and chugged the controller board and ugly transmitter in the bin, not even tested. Simple Carson 3ch (because their receivers are nice and tiny) 10 Euro micro esc, 180-motor that I had laying around, soft tires from WPL, and You'll have a nice little trailer. I have to admit I went a bit overboard.. :P. : Stuffed-in a Hobbyking lights&sound controller that was more expensive than the whole car.. 🤣

[@Craigstern73]

Whoa they missed the scale by quite a lot. Bouncy like the G500 with its friction shocks. With aluminum threaded oil filled shocks being what $12, every kit sold these days over $75 needs them. Idk it bothers me even with Axial's bs shocks on their high end build kits, like the scx10.2 were junk.. This looks more like a 1:18.