Why do you need an app to use THIS??!? - NIU KQi3 Kick Scooter

[@ShortCircuit]

Well, it looks like we crashed the website... they have been notified.

[@theothersri2029]

How

[@voltzFPV]

How to DDOS small companies - make a video about them

[@bod_cop2055]

this is fast , i mean the fact it crashed this fast

[@johncseplo]

Taren did it, he was too good at his job

[@brandonbarrick3390]

casually crashes website. everyday occurrence with LTT

[@jivewig]

Love to watch Taran’s Long Circuits

[@manateeksa4715]

You profile pic reminds me of 8:39

[@jorismak]

It's only 13 minutes :P

[@jivewig]

@@manateeksa4715 😂🤡😂

[@smoothcortex]

@@jorismak this was cut, a lot. Its was long for Taran 🤣 plus he's the only one who gets to review... You know why 🤣

[@jorismak]

@@smoothcortex "He only gets to review some things"… no, wait, again. He only _wants_ to review certain things, and then he's really into it :P. And yes, the concept of 'just unboxing quick impressions, no reviews' on Short Circuit is lost on him. Which isn't a bad thing, to be honest :P. I also have a feeling with all the car reviews - where Alex is really into it - is done party as a service to the hosts/writers, but also to make Short Circuit into more of a review channel for non-computer-tech. But that's just my hunch.

[@ConorORegan]

OG’s remember the LTT electric bike/scooter reviews

[@ConorORegan]

@Frank Nathaniel it was a few years back now

[@drewzn6593]

As well as the STEM robot/toy reviews. Really enjoyed watching them back then

[@nit-Inundate]

@@drewzn6593 I really like vids with Taran

[@Hebdomad7]

I'm still waiting on more RC firetruck videos...

[@ConorORegan]

@@Hebdomad7 this is the only clear move forward

[@sevenaati]

I didnt know taran was the scooter guy as well as the funny input devices guy

[@hkalisvaart]

He reviewed some electric bikes before.

[@BiggestNano]

@@hkalisvaart and skateboards

[@agenericaccount3935]

It’s a funny output device so this rates.

[@yamusa85]

"Funny input device guy"? I'll keep that as an insult for future use.

[@zaxmaxlax]

You mean the "macro king"?

[@HenningGu]

An app should always be a secondary option or one for convenience.

[@EdPMur]

True. It should never be the primary option. Most apps will eventually be discontinued and won’t have a way to use it without it

[@DenisMardan]

App is for legal requirements. Cause if you lose your driver license or get fined, your own fault.

[@girlsdrinkfeck]

@@DenisMardan licence? Wtf it's a scooter

[@DenisMardan]

@@girlsdrinkfeck yeah. You will lose your driver license and if you don’t have one, you will be blocked for x years. What did you think will happen when you break the law. Get a 5$ fine ? Slap on a wrist ? Call your mum up to pick you up?

[@girlsdrinkfeck]

@@DenisMardan again it'd not a car lmao why would u lose ya, licence for a push scooter with battery

[@sarfaraazalladin3696]

The app is an immediate deal breaker. I don't want to get hit with a subscription fee that bricks my hardware unless I pay or something like that

[@ScrewyVoices]

Also what happens if they get bought out by a different company like the Vector robot?

[@chubbysumo2230]

im sure there will be new control boards out within weeks, much like the Lime/byrd scooters that went defunct, you can buy new control boards and have them work.

[@victortitov1740]

the amount of gadgets that require an app or internet for no real reason is mind-boggling. DJI, Oculus, this, and endless other products. Hell, i can't even install some drivers for my asus laptop without the bloody internet.

[@ryantakahashi9130]

​@@chubbysumo2230 The difference with the bird/lime scooters was that the retail versions already existed before they licensed them and had them customized with all the extra protections. So the retail boards were easy to get and swap out. If the app protections/subscription are built into the retail models, it's going to be more of a pain for someone to create the control board without it.

[@_Piers_]

Niu at least have a pretty good reputation and are currently massively profitable - their main business is electric mopeds and they wildly outsell everyone else. So at least they won't go bankrupt tomorrow and brick your scooter.

[@crispyjokingtuna1495]

I got mine this year (2 years after this video) and the experience has gotten way better. The screen on my kqi2 is easy to see during the day, the app isn't strictly necessary, and its been solid. And since I have a cable bike lock I just thread it through the front wheel to lock it up when I go to the store or other places where I need to lock it up.

[@barishsorena]

من niu3دارم نوشته تا پنجاه کیلومتر میره با یک بار شارژ ولی به نظر من تا سی کیلومتر بیشتر نمیره

[@Canuckrz]

The fact it needs a sketchy app makes something like this a complete no go for me. Its completely unnecessary to the point where its clear they're doing it to harvest your data.

[@tonylarose4842]

Even their website is really sketchy, give them $1 now so that you can then back them on indegogo

[@squelchedotter]

And so they can brick your device later if you don't pay their subscription fee.

[@thanhavictus]

The Internet Of Things was a mistake.

[@squelchedotter]

@@thanhavictus I would call it less of a mistake and more a deliberate plot to exploit lacking consumer protection

[@TigerTT]

Its the same with some other vehicles though,well portable vehicles that have bluetooth,like some of the electric unicycles. But alot of them have their own app to customize everything.

[@MikeStavola]

In the followup part of the review, the scooter looks like it's been regularly used for months.

[@3laws292]

Cheap materials.

[@swaroopajit]

Taran probably used it extensively to give a proper review.

[@leonardusl5141]

@@3laws292 It's also a pre-production media sample unit

[@CortezEspartaco2]

The app is really good actually lol. It works across all their models, has security features like locking and movement notifications, battery status, etc. This is kind of like complaining that a car needs a key fob to work because then you have to carry it around with you and it might be listening to you and selling your info to some vague evil entity.

[@brittanylozano5067]

Did you have issues connecting? I have one and am currently in the process of trying connect.

[@rawr4444]

the sound effect when he poked his eye got me, i have to admit, hehehehe lol

[@bobbincat]

I've waited years for this. I remember asking Taran if he would do more vehicle reviews and it's finally here after years... God bless today

[@adw0i]

all the features on this have been on my Xiaomi m365 pro for a while to say the least. And i'm guessing that costs a little less, + u don't have to use an app.

[@ClintonHuynh]

I love my M365 Pro too, and use it as a last mile commute to work. It's also 10lbs lighter than the KQi3 so it can easily be carried more for that last mile commute onto transport vehicles. The biggest reason for the M365 is the aftermarket parts support and modding community.

[@aromaticsnail]

Probably because this is a xiaomi clone...this looks different but a fee details here and there abd the way they describe the app sounds a lot like a xiaomi

[@girlsdrinkfeck]

@@ClintonHuynh yh some UK KZbinr got one and put a phase runner on it to make it so 40mph and a custom battery pack for it and bigger shox

[@adw0i]

You can also add custom firmware which i have done with mine to give it extra power and speed if you want.

[@LZentertainments]

Xiaomi makes the best scooters

[@neal4]

"I got shit on by a bird, what a terrible experience this has been!" 0/10 would not recommend.

[@thatguy5245]

Made me think about Napoleon Dynamite!

[@mattzegarski3831]

Getting pooped on by a bird is good luck. I thought people knew this.

[@the_freedom_quest]

He probably just made that up. Just like he made up the bad review on this fantastic scooter. He's probably getting paid by a competitor of NIU for saying he wouldn't buy this because it's the best kick scooter out there, all the other reviews are saying it.

[@EverettVinzant]

My first thought (because of the packaging) “oh look, it’s made by Nintendo.”

[@natevirtual]

I thought the exact same thing!

[@niumobility]

Hi ShortCircuiters and NIU fans, We appreciate the feedback, both positive and critical. We have been making e-mopeds for years and the smart app is a key feature for many of our riders. The version of the NIU app that supports the KQi3 is still in beta, so we will continue to improve the experience for our users. The reason we require the app to unlock the full speed and performance of the scooter is to ensure the safety of new users who may be unfamiliar with e-scooters. We want to make sure they complete the tutorial before they go out on the road with no experience or familiarity with the functions of the scooter. We also have the utmost respect for your data privacy; the app data connections are to ensure the functions of the scooter and app work properly together for ride stats. Just as with the app, the KQi3 featured in the video is an early version and may differ from the final product. We will continue to improve based on our user feedback, as always. Thank you! -- The NIU Team

[@Apemania69]

Know NIU long time now for scooters and battery swapping. Good to see competition and looking forward to buy one in switzerland :)

[@niumobility]

@@Apemania69 Thanks for the support! We appreciate it! After years of making e-mopeds, this is the next logical step for us! 😄

[@LordSoulSicarious]

Why is there an online requirement at all? Nothing about what you just said couldn't be handled entirely locally on the owner's device. Nor does it seem to compensate for how intrusive and prone to failure a mandatory phone connection is. If your phone runs out of battery when you're out, that should not jeopardise your ability to get home. And that's not even addressing the security risks that come with having a vehicle thats core functionality can be accessed via Blutooth. Stick to user manuals, leave risk assessment up to the owner and enforcement of safe driving practice up to law enforcement. Once you've sold it, it's not yours anymore and you have no right to retain control over it.

[@niumobility]

@@LordSoulSicarious Hi Sean. To clarify, the scooter still operates normally without a connection to the phone. There is no need for an "always on" connection, except to provide detailed ride statistics through the app. The app is needed to complete the new user tutorial, but other than that, it's only necessary for the smart features like locking, ride stats, and custom riding mode.

[@paytskiis_tboh_III]

@@niumobility I'm going to get a kqi2 pro for Christmas, I have high hopes for this thing

[@LetrixAR]

New Taran video while I was watching his 4 hour long tutorial. Nice coincidence.

[@GAMIR_SFM]

Long time no see... 🤔

[@EmanueleMeazzo]

It's clear this is the 1st time Taran has ever seen an electric scooter; all the "features" he loves are literally mandatory due to regulations and present in basically any scooter 😅

[@batt3ryac1d]

Hes done a couple reviews on them in the past but its been a while stuffs probably changed.

[@NetanelZZZ]

@@batt3ryac1d nope. That breaking energy-recovery thing existed since 2017 at least... It's called "KICKscooter" 'cause it needs the kick to start... Folding mechanism is a replica of the Xiaomi 365 and regarding the annoying app? Segway has already made that a standard with the es1 and es2 ( all models of both companies are old AF ).

[@_Piers_]

I'm pretty sure the app being required is so it sets itself up with the right regional requirements. I'd be kind of surprised if you couldn't change modes in a similar way to the Xiaomi scooters as well. He figured out it was double press on the power button for the light, which is the same as Xiaomi

[@ChristofferLund]

Yeah this scooter was average at best and no interesting features at all. It would've been an okay video two years ago

[@BeardElk]

Damn I love that Taran's doin more videos now! Such a funny dude! "WORST EXPERIENCE EVER, A BIRD POOPED ON ME"

[@snoopgawg]

The retail version only requires the app to setup you don't need it after that. Also this scooter is AMAZING fast, long range premium features and looks great. The only "negative" is it's heavy af I live up two flights of stairs. Anyone who got in at indiegogo prices got a steal.

[@susanstebila8707]

Is it hard to release the carry lock ? U really have to pull super hard

[@TeamEmperor]

I need a ShortCircuit T-shirt that has an outlined 20amp Circuit Breaker on it

[@Turskaify]

Good review but I think you got stuck way too much about the app and not about the fact that it's not rated for use during rain? Literally the first thing about an electric scooter should be water proofing.

[@_Piers_]

I'm not sure what it's about, but almost all of the scooters tell you not to use them in the rain. Everyone does, doesn't seem to be a big deal.

[@AlexTheStampede]

@@_Piers_ They're probably worried about grip, mine does well but it's clear that it needs to be used with some added care.

[@donttellmewhattodo9664]

@@AlexTheStampede it's more about the battery being in the deck, near the ground. I guess the deck isn't waterproof, so don't get the bottom anywhere near submerged in a puddle.

[@CDL_Gaming]

7:50 you know you're in for a good time when the instructions say IT IS FORBIDDEN

[@Kathdath]

A few notes I have on this. 1) Basically all the features he loves are already on Xiaomi/Ninebot scooters. Large mod communities and plentiful aftermarket and replacement parts. 2) Dual brakes is an interesting feature, but not absolutely necessary. 3) You can easily use a disk brake lock on this kinds of scooters, and wire style locking chains will go through the non-motor wheel with some fiddling (I would just stick to a disk-brake lock system)

[@Pickle_surprize1121]

my ninebot es4 doesnt have a disc brake only regen braking (which I always use) or a lever brake on the rear wheel like one of those razor scooters not even disc brakes are nessicary bc regen braking works good enough

[@EdLrandom]

oh dude I love Canadian and US laws, totally just a handout to the automobile industry

[@ralr]

They are also forbidden to ride on the roads in the Netherlands because safety

[@HenningGu]

Wait until you hear about Germany.

[@EdLrandom]

@@ralr yeah, safety for the rider. Netherlands have an incredible bike lane infrastracture not even comparable to Canada have you never seen "not just bikes on youtube?"

[@AaronShenghao]

Always had been, major reason why railroads in US suck for passengers.

[@wowdogeful]

@@HenningGu The automotive industry has a much stronger lobby in North America than it does in Germany. Sure, our public transport sucks, but we didn't literally dismantle existing train connections because the automotive industry told us to.

[@izybit]

NIU is a huge company and they are legit awesome. Buy with confidence.

[@Tonicwine999]

Tarren is Brilliant!! Love watching when he's on!

[@Adam-de8jm]

I’ve missed the Taran transportation videos so much

[@SpykerSpeed]

Taran is adorable tbh. Oh yeah, and good review. I have an electric scooter similar to this and I love it. Max speed on mine is 30 mph.

[@ardemus]

I really appreciate the transparent frustration and unhappiness with the anti-consumer design that requires both an app, and unnecessary/invasive permissions. I've thrown back two free devices that I was interested in. Google sent me a $50 product as a promotion, and a friend gave me a product from a different brand. Both required apps for initial setup, and both apps required signing an extensive anti-consumer contract including binding arbitration and a class action waiver (typical TOS these days). I threw the Google one away, and gave the other back to my friend.

[@jjws600]

We have basically the exact same things here in Australia on most streets in the city, they're owned by companies and you pay per minute/km and they need an app and you can just Park them basically anywhere

[@yaroslavpanych2067]

Well, now imagine someone parks fake scooter stuffed with explosive. Do I need continue why such schema is the dumbest idea and why it must be illegal?

[@morosis82]

I commute by bike in Brisbane, and since the veloway really opened up properly there are tons of people that ride their own in to the city. There's a guy on our street that rips past every morning.

[@_Piers_]

@@yaroslavpanych2067 You can park cars almost anywhere and fill the trunk with a giant bomb....cars must be made illegal NOW!!!! You see my point? A little scooter is never going to be a terrorist first choice, it's a none existent problem.

[@BhushanK384]

As imperial units were added, you guys should also add metric ones when required. It's just a small window with convenient unit for the world(not U.S.).

[@AaronShenghao]

The “Chinese company you never heard of” is one of the biggest e-scooter (including the bigger bike-like kind with seats) manufacturer in China. The indiegogo campaign is most likely they trying to see the demand and decide wether not setting shop in US and Canada, after all US have famously bad public transport (outside of cities like LA/NY/Chiacago) compare to say Shanghai or Stockholm.

[@d3lsl0w]

His hang up is with the app and his data privacy. Not sure he would trust any Chinese company to have his info. Not saying that the Chinese people are bad, just the government that controls them b

[@DTC2_Blue]

Lol... I don't normally watch ShortCircuit, but Riley referred to this video after he reviewed a Lectric bike. Well I can't say much about NIU Scooters because it's max weight is a mere 264lbs and the biggest joke here is there is no way to chain the thing up. They give a locking mode, but so what. It's so light (40lbs), the thief could simply walk away with it and it's not like the faint beeping would attract much attention. My scooter is the Arwibon Q30 a single rear 48v, 2500W motor electric scooter which weighs in at 78lbs. Not easily carried away. It has a max user weight of 200Kg (440lbs) and even at max weight it can still do 25° - 30° grades. Oh and FYI... as of July 21, 2021 Vancouver allows eScooters, but they follow the eBike specifications, no higher than 500W and they limit speeds to 24kph and must wear a helmet and have lights if riding between sunset and sun rise. This video was release July 10, 2021 - so just 11 days too early. Here in Toronto, eScooters also follow the eBike laws. So my 2500W badboy could be considered illegal, especially if I'm caught doing 60+ Kph lol... vancouver.ca/streets-transportation/electric-kick-scooters.aspx

[@xI-Chas3r-Ix]

Taran back at it again!!! Love it, absolutely one of the best on the ltt team besides Madison, Riley and Colton! Or wait, has Colten been fired again? 🤭

[@ThatSoddingGamer]

Same sort of restriction where I live in Ontario. It's the main reason why I've never bothered to get an electric bike, board, or scooter. I can live with the up-front cost, but fully automated electric devices like this are heavily restricted in where you can use it, and those that only offer assist, I don't have much use for. They're basically treated like vehicles (that you don't need a license to drive), which I guess they sort of are, as regular bikes technically are as well and you can in fact ride those on the road, but I wouldn't feel all that safe trying to use these sorts of vehicles on the road among cars (and I'm super sure I'd be popular if I did /s), and if the sidewalk is a non-option (at least legally), I just feel like giving up on the venture entirely. Also, basically forcing us to use them on the road like cars while at the same time the government forces artificial speed limits on them is just asinine. "You can basically only use these on the roads among the cars, but we sure won't let you use them at speeds that make sense under those circumstances." Either they should let us use them at full speed or let us use them on sidewalks. Preferably both.

[@just_eirik]

Taran's reviews are always a treat!

[@hi9580]

NIU is mainly a electric motorcycle brand, Revel's scooters are made by them

[@TRLC]

No rain, forced app... nope i'll just ride my trusty Crescent moped.

[@terrencelei8]

I'm liking this scooter a lot more:www.indiegogo.com/projects/rebus-the-future-of-electric-scooters/coming_soon/x/22729474. It doesn't require an app and is IP54 rated.

[@elik1491]

@@terrencelei8 that scooter looks real nice especially for the price. Doesn't look like it came out yet though did it?

[@terrencelei8]

@@elik1491 yes i know but on facebook they said that they expect to begin deliveries in late august-early september. i’m hoping that they’ll deliver bc that scooter def looks good for the price

[@elik1491]

@@terrencelei8 when will the indiegogo page open for people to back it?

[@terrencelei8]

@@elik1491 i’m not sure prob soon but for now maybe just sign up to the email list to get notified when it does become available. You can reserve the Super Early Bird discount for $1 now and they also have a Facebook group.

[@realbuckwell]

I live in Ontario canada and bought a cheap 300 dollar escooter from walmart and it goes about 15km a charge at 25 km/h its pretty fun

[@TeamEmperor]

I think we all should be called "Circuit Breakers" or "Breakers"

[@HecticTrainGuy]

how is this not already a thing?

[@jderio]

For the people ragging about the app, there are some countries where the maximum speed of the scooters is limited. The app is a way to make a global version of it and sell it without having to limit it according to every country. You use apps for the wearables... This is just another one and this one is way less intrusive. Uses location so it can find Bluetooth devices nearby (android things) and Bluetooth and WiFi for data transfer.

[@robinrai4973]

Awwwww yeah Taran's back with weird vehicles

[@thesteelrodent1796]

there are scooters like this that go up to 45-50 km/h, but here in Denmark they require a motorcycle license because they go faster than 30 km/h, and you must have a license plate and drive on the road. So scooters here effectively have to be capped at 30 km/h so you can use them without a license (as long as you're over 18) and can drive on the bicycle path. The same rules apply to electric bicycles btw, because they technically are a motorized vehicle (meanwhile you can go up to the speed limit on a pedal bike without any restrictions)

[@XionEternum]

Taran: "Do read the manual." Also Taran: "What is this? A compartment?"

[@Polite_Cat]

Pretty sure he said in the video it didnt come with one.

[@XionEternum]

@@Polite_Cat Oh I know, it was just a funny back-to-back moment.

[@AndrewJQueen]

Agreed! Not everything in this world needs an app and if I have to have it to use the thing, it's not worth it!

[@devKazuto]

In Germany, this scooter would be illegal as the top speed can't be higher than 20km/h.

[@emileift2850]

Scheiß Deutschland

[@leventsl]

I'm sure if you are a 3rd world refugee they will give you a pass.

[@ChristopherMahn]

In the App you could set it to 20 km/h max-speed. Than you can license the vehicle with a "Einzelbetriebserlaubnis". This requiers a independent review by a third party, where they certify, that it could only drive 20 km/h on the test-stand. It's up to you, if you change the maximum speed afterwards, but technically you would then drive legally.

[@fourdoorsmorehoes]

@@ChristopherMahn why go through all that when you can just purchase a scooter that is already legal in Germany? this scooter seem to be way worse than what is already on the market

[@_Piers_]

It's possible that the app would just set the correct maximum speed for you and there wouldn't be an issue. It's not a product you can buy yet, so changes could easily happen anyway.

[@DavidHHH99]

With most electric scooters, you only need the app to unlock speeds, set cruise levels, etc. You don't need to use it every time. That said, my scooter (the Swagtron Swagger 5 Boost) doesn't have a feature in the app to lock it to prevent (or at least discourage) theft, and I REALLY wish it did. On mine, I managed to get creative with a Kryptonite lock at the fold point, with a chain wrapped around it multiple times, for locking it up. For heavier riders, beware the low weight limits on many electric scooters. On this one and most of them, the limit is 220 pounds. The Swagger's limit is 320 pounds , which is one of the highest I've found for a low price ($300) scooter.

[@wantaproblemful]

Yes most of the braking power comes from the front on bikes. You know you've stopped when your over the handlebars

[@sythysto8391]

Never got thrown out in the front when braking with both bicycles and electric scooters. You just need to know how to brake and how to move your center of mass - body - to the back and in what position to brake safely. I also did a lot of emergency braking and never fell - but I did slide a bit sometimes when applying full force. Oh, I actually fell 2 times but in the winter and on ice.

[@wantaproblemful]

@@sythysto8391 i have no idea what this is about bc a year ago but i think i was yoking :)

[@charlie156]

I absolutely LOVE the way LMG host their videos. Brilliant.

[@平和-v1z]

Forcing users to install an App is unacceptable.

[@CainBuckler]

lol then just unlock the high speed mode and delete the app...

[@notahotshot]

@@CainBuckler No. I'll just buy a better scooter, without an unnecessary app.

[@CainBuckler]

@@notahotshot you do you bud. I just think the lack of weather sealing is a far bigger thing to cry about rather than an app you have to download once than delete and never think of again

[@corruptedpoison1]

@@CainBuckler He already said all the warranty information and such is required in the app so no its not download once and delete it.

[@CainBuckler]

@@corruptedpoison1 how many times exactly have you needed your warranty info for your scooter in the past year?

[@AK90]

My sister bought the xiaomi mi electric scooter 1s to go back and forth from work. I used it a bunch and I gotta say, I really like it. Im 110lbs and that thing really moves with 0 issues. It does require an app though :P

[@willg955]

The app thing seems good for security and theft prevention. Although it probably wouldn't be hard to get around it.

[@DenisMardan]

The app is for legal requirements Taran mentioned. Like speed limits. You can lose your driver licence, get fined or go to jail if you operate it past the legal speed intoxicated for example. Also you can just turn off app tracking and access on your mobile phone with good privacy features.

[@theblackwithin3457]

rule of thumb: if you can't use it without an app - it's overpriced garbage.

[@PKMNwater]

If you have a PC, do you use generic drivers or do you download and use the ones by your manufacturer??

[@petivahok2352]

Apps for a fridge? No Apps for a scooter that can cause injuries if there are any issues, that could be fixed with a 2min firmware update? Yes please

[@Vojoor]

Wow, your outdoor sound/microphone pickup has improved so much

[@whatiskensworth]

When I see Taran, I settle in for a cozy learning session. I miss his reviews, this was a welcome surprise!

[@hhauffe]

Most everything you said about it was really good except for getting overly freaked out about the app. It sounded pretty good to me.

[@sushimshah2896]

9:25-maybe try installing it in VMOS or a similar app

[@DTOSX666]

You NEED to check out the Apollo Phantom e-Scooter!! No app required and much more fancy and powerful. Company is based in Montreal

[@userSchlonsch]

This chinese company you’ve never heard of is actually one of the biggest manufacturers of electric scooters (real sized ones that you sit on) and you can barely go more than a mile in a european city without seeing one of their scooters. They are also being used by a lot of scooter sharing companies and can generally be considered marked leader for electric scooters.

[@semibreve]

A Taran video is always so satisfying to watch. A complete, through, breakdown of every single dumb problem with the product.

[@nimushbimush2103]

hey what about making a review of unicycle? or one wheel?

[@furkan10ky]

The stock is up 11% today! All because of this channel.

[@thereason1010]

Yay, I love Taren videos!

[@danp2509]

5:10, all mechanical disk brakes will have some rub as one of the brake pads is stationary. Source: I work in a bike shop

[@victormoor5511]

Why does an influencer has a mindset of a Nokia 3210? And it would be nice if you guys would know the basics about NIU and their different products.

[@PitboyHarmony1]

QUESTION: What if you 'ride away' from the App, as in you leave your phone with Jono or someone intentionally, does it shut down and lock or does the extra speed go away and it goes slower? Do you have to keep the phone in your pocket? Obviously no one will do that normally, but think about it this way; can you leave your phone at the repair store and ride away? What if the phone battery dies on you? How does that affect the scooter? Or if the scooter is stolen from behind you before you notice, can you shut it down via the App?

[@methanesulfonic]

I missed Taran' electric scooter/ bike review, how long has it been since the last time?

[@joeytsao7879]

they are actually a pretty big company in China, and also listed in nasdaq, so not so random a company I guess?

[@reggiep75]

Taran: *OVERLOADED & YEARNS TO GET BACK TO EDITING.. AND AWAY FROM THE SCOOTER & BIRD POO*

[@wastrapped410]

I love this guy on any video.

[@nyarehd]

Even though, it's locked, we can still steal by carrying this.

[@GothicDragonX]

Ha! I was right about that poll a few days/week ago to who was going to host it. 😎 Also I agree with Taran, if it needs an App to RUN your transportation device then screw that. At the same time that "anti theft" break lock is fine but what keep people from folding it and carrying it? Motion sensor and the weird chimes might be a good deterrent but if someone is determine to snatch it for parts, then that thing is gone. Maybe GPS tracking build in?

[@RisingRevengeance]

Why does everything require an app? I don't even see what the company gets out of it

[@pupyasko1233]

data

[@RisingRevengeance]

@@pupyasko1233 Yeah it's probably what it comes down to. I just don't get it, your data is just pennies to them and they just sold you a $500 machine.

[@pupyasko1233]

@@RisingRevengeance Your data, potentially sold to one person, is pennies. Sell data from lots of people to lots of other people, and I can imagine that piles up rather quickly.

[@RedPMD]

try out Rita Personal Data to see what you're worth to google for example. i was worth $500 - i use adblockers everywhere, location data is kept off unless i need it... my friend was worth $50,000 to ad companies cause he clicks on ads...

[@zodiacfml]

5:15 yes. car disc brakes are also like this, pads as close possible for best feel and performance

[@martin518441]

"excellent build quality" - disc rubbing on caliper fresh from the box

[@ov1lord]

And the paint peels off after a few kilometers of riding 😂

[@timoboy19]

It is supposed to do that, if you put new brakes on your car it will also do that for the first few km

[@hujohnny7785]

Great product, easy to clean -worked out great !

[@Mike504]

I love how Taran adds the rite amount of cringe to his reviews. Also that photoshop work to make it look like he was on the road instead of a treadmill was incredibly realistic.

[@KOSAMAGAMES]

I remember when skateboarding was at its highest point in around 2008-2012 (in LA at least) taking a scooter to school was cringey, even just walking with one. It was like riding a skateboard was a hobby and lifestyle cause of the trend (but low key transport), while scooter screamed "I have no ride and need to go home quick cause I have no alternate hobbies or friends to hang with and did I mention I don't have a bike or can't skateboard" lol, didn't help if it was a off-brand scooter cause now you can add in addition that you were broke lol. I never minded scooters though, but peer pressure pushed me away from being seen on one, its crazy how now that skateboarding died down a bit (though recently I've seen some younger kids skating) its cool to scooter again. I think the rental scooters helped kill that, but I still kinda chuckle cause its kinda like when you a segway, like its people who you know for a fact if they fall off are going to have a bad day lol or I guess think of it like seeing Cathy Mitchell trying to do a Tre-Flip lol While skateboarders fall all the time, god forbid a pebble the size of fly hits the wheel XD

[@StephenHogan]

Xi Jinping looking at my GPS history: ah yes, I see you go to the store a lot. Part of my evil plan. 😈

[@marconiandcheese7258]

Thank you for taking a stand against stupid app data mining.

[@marcusgreco]

This thing can go 1/3 the distance of the Mini Cooper EV 🤦‍♂️

[@MrWillypanda88]

Taran, thank you so much for making ebike/scooter video again. I loved your Radmini/Radwagon bike review. Please make more ebikes video from now on.

[@Otium200]

"if you can't ride on the sidewalk or the road then where can you!?" the bike lane....not sure how some people make it to adulthood

[@r000OO00tt]

the laws state you can only ride it on private property as it is counted as a motorized vehicle. only ebikes are allowed but they must have pedals.

[@Michael-wo6ld]

There are tons of places where there are no bike lanes, though? A bicycle can ride on the road, or if you're going slower you can probably get away with the sidewalk.

[@UFODave69]

in many NA cities, bike lanes aren't nearly as ubiquitous as they should be. Not to mention, sometimes even when they do exist, they're poorly designed and are borderline more dangerous than just sharing the road.

[@DrSkunk]

If you love this one, you should check out the E-Twow scooters. No app, waterproof and very portable!

[@dayyou]

honestly that thing seems like a terrible piece of crap

[@Helix535]

Love the small transportation reviews

[@AP_CHIN]

I don't care about the product whatsoever, I just love to see Taran in a video!!!!! More please!!!

[@simster2759]

These road scenery Photoshop skills are unbelievable

[@burnzy3210]

I'm willing to bet you can 100% you can choose the faster speeds without the app. Most of these things are built with the same controller and my gf's scooter just needs some taps on the controls to choose the max speed

[@eclairfavremagne7064]

MAN YES! Love seeing Taran in the vids! He's such an awesome guy

[@fghfsderts]

Niu is one of the biggest premium e bike makers in china. So the quality is not a problem. Also the crowd funding will go smoothly no matter what since they have a lot of funding anyway. 700 bucks is a big ask tho. Its competitors has similar offerings for about 300-400 range.

[@_Piers_]

You can lock the scooter up the same way as a Xiaomi scooter - a U-lock over the top of the front wheel around top of the forks.

[@johndavis1003]

Best thing about this is that it feels like old LTT 😌

[@n0lat]

I can see the screen just fine on my scooter, you can lock the scooter which will lock the wheels and start beeping if you try, you can also use a bike lock so idk what ge meant by that, I can turn it on and use it without the app, setup was easy, it is efficient and fast and the headlight iss great definitely s nut luck review

[@saik0pod]

I bought this scooter on Amazon thanks to your review 😁

[@eburneentertainment9903]

I feel like this is designed for UK markets, not that they're legal here, but there are ones that you can legally hire and they require GPS (though it's built in) because they slow down in parks and such and speed up on roads. I guess this is why it requires the app

[@DraconicA5]

Thank you for using Metric system in the video!

[@phillvallace]

Agreed, you shouldn't need to use another device like a phone to be able to use a product, as someone without a mobile phone it's rather annoying