Why does everyone hate TX2? Gatekeeping emo/pop punk, Linkin Park, MGK

Emo/pop punk artist TX2 opens up about negativity he gets online, gatekeeping, whether or not he ripped off the band Get Scared, feelings on MGK and Linkin Park, his new single "So Numb," future tours, his Mount Rushmore of emo bands, and what "TX2" actually means.
New Single "So Numb"
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00:00 Intro
03:17 Why does everyone hate TX2
07:25 Gatekeeping in pop punk, Emo alt
09:00 MGK’s blackout tattoos
11:30 linkin park upset
14:12 people won’t be mean in real life
16:14 did he rip off Get Scared
17:55 does he let the negativity get to him
19:30 do I get hate on?
21:49 the new single So Numb
27:00 Mount Rushmore of emo bands
30:55 what does TX2 mean

[@hylianhero1921]

Black Wedding is fire and So Numb is relatable as all hell

[@EricMoranFilms]

Not familiar with him but judging by his interview hard to tell how he gets hate. Seems like a great guy might have to check them out when they role through Chicago!

[@Dizzzy3334]

Yeah! His music is super cool! I recommend.

[@HawkMawth]

@@Dizzzy3334fr tho

[@Averagetherian1]

His music is incredible I love it I highly recommend it.

[@hentailover3659]

It’s his music and his attitude towards his haters, he won’t admit he’s and industry plant, and doesn’t take criticism for his surface level lyrics, unhealthy and bad screams and average vocal performance

[@EricMoranFilms]

@@hentailover3659I listened to the music, it is certainly not for me. I thought the lyrics were surface level, but I was speaking to his character. he seems like an ok guy. is the industry plant thing proven? or are you just assuming that. If people are hating he can handle it however he wants. I dont really care if someone doesn't take criticism. it's up to him if he wants to take it or not.I really do not understand what you are trying to get at here.

[@AnonymousShark184]

This is definitely TX2's year, I'm so excited for more songs coming! Thanks for this interview Jesea Lee!

[@K-12_love]

WE STAN TX2.

[@MikIsEmoBiAndLovesTX2]

HELL YEAH!!

[@zxkyy_xoxo]

YEAHHHH

[@Blueco.mp4]

Hell yeah

[@Khloe-69420]

HELL YEAH

[@Ashtyn-xp5vn]

HELL YEAHH

[@_Xypes_]

I said for so long I wanted to see what it’d sound like if he made metal, and now I know and am not disappointed

[@Emo_boy14]

I love TX2 so f#cking much!!!

[@Leviathan10937]

lol #ucking

[@emozozo1]

Same here

[@Blueco.mp4]

Same

[@Darkboi98105]

Same!

[@rebekahcarter8120]

I think he's fantastic. Love that he combines a punk attitude with a more traditional rock sound. Heaven Was Full has an amazing guitar solo, as do several of his other songs. I may not agree with him on everything but that doesn't matter. I definitely admire him & can't wait to see everything he accomplishes in the years to come... He's totally right about the crabs in the bucket thing.

[@DragonFire666]

As a "real metalhead" I would just like to say that TX2 is one my favorite bands.

[@LocoSauce]

As a "real emo" TX2 deserves more than the hate he receives.

[@cottontherobloxian6616]

@@LocoSauce haters gon hate, if u dont like tx2 then why u even watching this video

[@LocoSauce]

@@cottontherobloxian6616 I like TX2??? I'm saying he deserves so much more than hate as in he derves better...misinterpreted?

[@Tx2FanOfficial]

lol frrrrrrrrrr I love his music @@cottontherobloxian6616

[@sundayfunday5059]

@@LocoSauceYeah kinda sounded like he deserved more hate than what he has now lmao

[@D4rk_Lum1nous]

For as long as haters exist, we'll be here to balance and even tip the scale❤️🖤

[@Mikmiku-y2v]

Stop saying tx2 is cringe just because he says goth dommy mommy he is making fun of people who say that

[@Glingo21-uu7dr]

TX2 is a fucking badass

[@DannyDarling27]

The thing with the emo community and their love for hating, I think it’s because they don’t want their community being colonized by outside groups, ESPECIALLY TAYLOR SWIFT FANS, so when they feel that someone might be an outsider, they want them out. It sounds racist, but it makes sense when you realize that the group is fighting to stay alive, and is afraid of being drowned out by more popular groups invading their space.

[@Th3rian_xOfficial]

TX2 saved my life he’s a EXTREMELY talented man he WILL tour the world and I support him not matter what

[@nickschiller1080]

Going on tour with Ice Nine kills, Avatar and In this Moment coming up. They'll open the show but it's going to be hard to get love I feel on this tour with the crowds from the bands with them. Avatar are amazing and live are awesome and In this Moment as well. They are just a weird addition to the others and I feel they're going to get alot of hate from the crowds but that's what makes you even stronger as a band. Props to Evan and can't hate on the grind at all! Stoked how far they've gotten over the last year and a half.

[@lizardoman]

Hell yeah I love tx2 I was hoping that you would get him on your podcast soon

[@tiffanyspiffycriss2428]

I've been to one of his concerts. Almost everyone in his fan base is super supportive. Evan is also just a super nice guy. He brings positivity wherever he goes.

[@AddieWhitcher314]

If i saw you in person, TX2, I would ask to give you a hug. You've done so much for me and people in general ❤

[@Roxyy_Foxyy]

I've been a fan of TX2 since his album 99 proof, and to see the fan base grow is amazing! I don't think he deserves all the hate he gets, but hating on an artist is something people will always do. I like how he embraces it though, I think it takes a lot of guts and confidence to be uniquely yourself, not everyone can do that.

[@Prouddisapointmentmetalcore69]

Evan is just one of those guys who doesn't give the slightest fuck about what bad stuff thats said about him. Mad respect!!!🖤🖤🤘🤘

[@Mileskanode]

Thanks cus I love TX2 and I’m emo/punk(alt)and I get hate a lot as well so this helps me understand to actually get the madness out and his songs help alot

[@gPudgy]

His tunes are fun and he seems like a cool dude, got to talk to him and the boys for a bit in San Antonio.

[@Mikmiku-y2v]

Raise your hand, if you like TX2 me:🙋

[@Tx2FanOfficial]

🙋‍♀ ME

[@DinoNuggiez11]

YES 🙋

[@-user666-]

🙋🏼

[@phil.d-roll6393]

😂

[@K-12_love]

*reaches my hand up to the moon*

[@xtheyan]

Letss gooo 🤘🏻🔥 Keep killing it

[@Ashvamproot]

I think the problem lays in people not wanting bands to have subcategories and not understanding a song can relate to many genres and a solitary song description these days is just silly since it can fit in soo many subcategories now. People are so focused on trying to label “one” genre or category on a band when the reality is music is “art”

[@MikIsEmoBiAndLovesTX2]

I frickin love Evan, he’s amazing! 🖤🤘🔥🏳️‍🌈

[@that_gay_pringle1072]

How do you hear “Goth Dommie Mommy” and think that he is serious?

[@sasha-is-eepy]

I think it’s less about if he’s serious or not, and more about the fact that there has been a pattern of fetishization of goths in the past. even if it’s a joke, it very much plays into those patterns, and that’s why people found it offensive or problematic. it spreads the wrong impressions.

[@that_gay_pringle1072]

@@sasha-is-eepy he’s made multiple videos saying not to fetishize goth women

[@sasha-is-eepy]

@@that_gay_pringle1072Which is great, dont get me wrong, but the people seeing just that one video with no context might get the wrong idea.

[@that_gay_pringle1072]

@@sasha-is-eepy he makes it very obvious that they are a satire

[@sasha-is-eepy]

@@that_gay_pringle1072The fact that there were people that believed that - the very fact of which is backed up by your original comment - proves that it was not obvious satire (or at least flew over many people’s heads) and thus is still a damaging message.

[@iaclassic]

MCR, TX2 and twentyOnePilots, easy favorites

[@Lust4blood-1]

Same

[@Darkboi98105]

OMG YES!!!

[@dominikapolichtova5058]

Numb is fire and all the other songs too. Can't wait to see you in UK!

[@CapBones]

London soon

[@Angeldelorxoxoxo]

TX2 is amazing! I used to be a Myspace famous scene queen but I honestly think TX2 is amazing and very emo.

[@BRBonGiediPrime]

You were Hanna Beth and Audrey Kitching?

[@forevxrlost]

amazing to see how passionate of a person he is

[@Stayinthesaltring]

Everyone who hates on Evan are noobs they are missing out on so great music and a new era of music if you hate on a TX2 a guy try to chase his dream you need to get out of here I love TX2 and his music has helped get me through things.

[@santana-uv2uc]

omg ur so right like these lil kids was calling my music trash so i was so scared to sing infront of other ppl but now im kinda just like meh f it

[@_LostRaven_]

Love his music ❤❤❤❤

[@BeachBomberOfficial]

TX2 IS THE FUCKING BEST LISTEN TO HIM LISTEN TO THE SONG DROP DEAD YOU WONT REGRET IT JUST FOLLOW, SUBSCRIBE, AND LISTEN!!

[@jaydenswift9856]

Listening to their songs I heard Paramore immediately in Pull The Plug. PS I like guys without facial hair they look young and heroic

[@FaithLovesTheTriplets]

He is literally so awesome. I don't get why people hate on him so much. Like so what if you don't like his music? Just ignore it? People don't know how to just move on nowadays. He seems like a genuinely nice and sweet guy, I don't get it

[@Tx2FanOfficial]

AMEN @TheBallerinaTimes AMeN 🙏

[@emilybryant4220]

Seems like the nicest singers get the most hate.

[@unknownartist1573]

What a sweet interview 🥰💖love TX2 🖤♥️

[@clay_rabbit]

We love TX2 🖤❤🤘

[@gabzwithazed]

I love TX2, His new song so numb is really good!!

[@ThomasHann-xy6ib]

Tx2 is one of my favorite KZbinr, and his new song is so good, so numb

[@emozozo1]

A ton of my friends love TX2, including me, we've been watching him almost since day one 🖤

[@DeadnotAlive]

That’s crazy Matt Good is one of his producers FFTL was the band that got me into this genre

[@MAX_THE_PUPPY]

ILY EVAN!!

[@Nameless-gothic-stranger130]

I could listen to him talk for ever #tx2❤

[@QandA-sg4tb]

tx2 is what i listen to daily he's awesome

[@Mushroom_top.]

YAYYYY I LOVE TX2 SMM

[@Darkboi98105]

I honestly don’t understand how he could get hate. He is a great guy…

[@House614]

I’m emo too I love u soooooo much tx2❤🎉😊

[@LindleyArnold-nc9vy]

Even, your music is my heaven.

[@EvanIsTerified]

But heaven was full and I'm going straight to hell. 😢😢

[@HawkMawth]

TX2 is one of my favorite artists! “So Numb” is my new favorite song of his now. He did amazing work! I can understand bc he is bisexual, that’s where the hate comes from. But everything else, idk how people can hate him.

[@unknownartist1573]

Evan probably had a filter on by accident lol because my mom once video called me with a hat filter, and she didn't know how to use the app too well and I thought it was a real hat at first so we were talking to each other with the filter on for a good while before realizing it was there was a filter on. She didn't even notice the hat the whole time 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ChristineMung]

FREAKING LOVE TX2

[@macieparkins8097]

Dude i love TX2

[@toricynical]

walking dead man is underrated asf

[@DinoNuggiez11]

Fr it has helped me so much

[@Bubzomga]

Look we love you TX2 man your the best my bro

[@eroslovescoffee]

I honestly only see hate for him on tiktok, so in my mind it doesnt count lol cuz they dk anything

[@MastaDRD]

Oh nahhhhhhh, go look up user reviews all over the place for "Burn" and you'll see how much there is out there. Like damn, it's not a perfect song, but people are shitting on it and shitting on him over it like the song has personally massacred their family and raped their dog.

[@GobsmackedIHATENI]

I love tx2 probs obvious by my name

[@darciemarriott108]

I love tx2 hes a legend hes helped so meny people!!

[@Arcticfox323]

He looks so nervous to be there I feel so bad I am so sorry tx2

[@skvlliqhv2]

pretty much every person looks a bit nervous when they're on a podcast, like "oh sh-t what if i say something that in ten years will be pulled out of nowhere and get me cancelled"

[@Arcticfox323]

@@skvlliqhv2 lol yes tho

[@TX2LOVER-vc4bf]

love this thnx for doing tx2

[@DreamNLego.]

I don’t get the hate, I love a lot of his music. Some r not for me but that’s fine, I only listen to music I relate to

[@skvlliqhv2]

definitely TX2's best year of music so far that's for damn sure

[@WoolyPutty9]

I wish more people understood that 99% of his TikToks/shorts are satire.

[@brookehelker4334]

Tx2 is so adorable I just don't understand how people could hate him and his magic balloon powers

[@jamesdew4364]

I like paramore too and licuna coil and most forget papa roach is an emo band and they have been around forever

[@Spaztastica]

I don't know who Get Scared is, but I just think of Panic! when I listen to "Black Wedding." ❤

[@paulrodgers7228]

I love the guy! Heck I drove an hour then took a 2 hour train ride, then rode the subway of NYC into Brooklyn to go see him and meet him last month!

[@Ashvamproot]

I love how you think fr

[@DAMAGED_MIND]

TX2 is fantastic. I love his music!

[@chachasmooth5863]

The reason why people hate him is because of instagram always posting shitty skits and being wack

[@Janesasalazar2.0]

Yes that’s why and that he makes a Christian hate song and people are OK with that, but I’m OK with it because I like his music

[@Ashvamproot]

@@Janesasalazar2.0Christians aren’t sunshine and rainbows lol idnk why these people would make a religion above than it actually is 💀

[@zxkyy_xoxo]

HE IS SO TALENTED

[@Cyanthetherian-bc4vu]

I LOVE TX2!

[@Sigma_1735]

I love tx2 smmm.

[@parxboiiz]

i personally dont like the way he promotes his music, but he makes good songs and seems like a genuine and good person!!

[@Overl0rd_Guitar]

I feel the same lol

[@Tyler-ts2ld]

Jesea dude you’ve got to get more TX2 on Octane! These guys are gonna go far. As a rocker and metal head, I dig his music. I am an OG emo kid. Take me back to my high school days 😂. Three cheers for sweet revenge was on repeat. Edit - MGK is straight up awful, both in music and life.

[@piercethecoffee]

OMG! I love TX2!!!!

[@TurnipBoy666]

Wait, I thought his name was Evan???? lol

[@Jasper_casper11]

It is! I think it might be his middle name(not sure) but he goes by that

[@MEMEOMG]

It is ​@@Jasper_casper11

[@evalynbryson-vd8om]

I LOVES his Music!!!

[@imthinkingblue]

I can't get over how his necklaces just almost line up

[@DinoNuggiez11]

Why did you point that out.

[@nickschiller1080]

Black out tattoos like Ronnie got and MGK are so sketchy. Ronnie said he did it to get rid of past things about himself or certains times but his tattoos were amazing!

[@Tx2sbiggestfan]

I love Tx2

[@pelleohlinismyuncle]

i do and im christian and libertarian lol his music is good no matter what ur beliefs are ❤

[@Tx2sbiggestfan]

@@pelleohlinismyuncle YES😭❤️

[@pelleohlinismyuncle]

@@Tx2sbiggestfan btw whats ur fav song? :D mine is degrade me

[@Tx2sbiggestfan]

@@pelleohlinismyuncle ngl probably either say Your insecure or his new one so numb

[@SHINYDARKOFFICIAL]

Can you please ask him to come to Vermont plz plz plz❤❤❤❤❤

[@Cyanthetherian-bc4vu]

He is coming to Massachusetts and New York if that helps

[@SHINYDARKOFFICIAL]

@@Cyanthetherian-bc4vu but I can’t go there ty for letting me know that tho

[@PoTaTaTo9]

0:51 unsure if this pun was intentional but I laughed way to hard at it Evan has really good songs :)

[@SHINYDARKOFFICIAL]

I AM A OG FAN OF TX2 ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Lust4blood-1]

Same

[@SHINYDARKOFFICIAL]

@@Lust4blood-1 I subscribed to you

[@Lust4blood-1]

@@SHINYDARKOFFICIAL Tysm!! 🖤🖤🖤

[@SHINYDARKOFFICIAL]

@@Lust4blood-1 np you seem pretty chill and understanding 🤟🏼🔥🖤

[@Lust4blood-1]

@@SHINYDARKOFFICIAL Ty, you seem really cool too

[@santana-uv2uc]

TX2222222 YAYAYAYAYAYAHYAYAYAYA

[@CharlieLoves_CharleyYang]

TX2 fans 👇

[@strangerthingslover2378]

I love TX2. HE IS SO NICE AND I LOVE HE"S SONGS

[@TX2_FAN_FOREVER]

I LOVE SWING AT MEEEE

[@LocoSauce]

The hate on TX2 is so sad. But also we gotta realize that his haters have 0 musical talent.

[@Tx2FanOfficial]

Frrrrrrrrrrr bro

[@emptysoul8462]

i’m sorry but some of TX2’s music is straight up unlistenable. yeah, i get it, it’s his trauma. we all have fucking trauma. doesn’t make songs like Burn any less cringe, trashy, absolutely ridiculous. aside from the production none of it is imaginative or well made. if you enjoy his music, that’s absolutely fine though! i am not saying you’re lesser or that TX2 as a person is lesser for making the music he does. i personally just cannot stand it.

[@artlover3857]

I love you tx2

[@Keith-yj9gr]

kind of proud like like a band while they're in their getting hated era lol

[@Random_funstuff]

Tx2 forever

[@myaburkholder]

I love TX2

[@e-heromanny4348]

I like some of TX2’s songs but I think what keeps me on the fence is that I wasn’t sure if he was for real or just a parody but that was only because I first found his TikTok and found a lot of it really funny. Secondly like he said in the interview, he leans into the hate but it’s almost to his detriment. He has a tendency to be too rage baity online. I’ll never try to speak for an entire scene or a band/artist especially if they’re dead but his Linkin Park cover was genuinely bad and I would like to see him get better as an artist but he if he just continues egging on haters with possibly intentionally divisive songs or promotion his career could plateau

[@DevourkingDevourking-fx5rm]

I love tx2

[@Witch_of_Mushrooms]

You know what I’m sayin? ❌ Do you know what I am saying? ✅

[@heatherhodge2947]

I think he's awesome don't know y he gets hate

[@kera2339]

I LOVE TX2!!!

[@beenickole2669]

My 5 year old told me she wants to Emo because of TX2🤣

[@aidinexmachina4232]

I don't dislike him personally, but he is a bit try-hardy. It's just this new wave of Pop Punk & Emo comes off really corny to someone who's been listening to Alternative Music for the last 20 years. If you like TX2 that's totally fine, and I hope the guy is very successful. But in the same way MGK is just a caricature of Emo, this dude is basically "Ronnie Radke at Home".