Why does FORD want to make RESTOMODDING ILLEGAL?

[@houseofno]

Ford conveniently leaves out the fact that the Bronco nameplate was discontinued in 1996 and went unused for decades until the new version of the Bronco came out a number of years ago.

[@BuddyTheWolfYT]

The people who run Ford now are the people Ford warned us about in his book...

[@waynek805]

What they have done with the Mustang alone would have him rolling in his grave.

[@screenprotech]

Pretty dumb way to loss Ford fans

[@DEInTheGarage]

Who me?? Lol. I just report the news bud. Today Ford stepped in it.

[@screenprotech]

@@DEInTheGarage Noooooo Ford not you lol

[@eckcampbell8663]

*lose

[@CarlClements-f7j]

Because restomod is a better product.

[@Davidhillborn]

Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

[@motorhead281]

Maybe an actual restomod, but these POS are just rebodied modern trucks, with all the crap modern engines and electronics.

[@talis84]

Don't give GM any ideas to go after re-bodied Corvettes.

[@nickz4993]

I’ve seen a few C5 vettes with C1 style bodykits. They look moronic but there’s a market

[@Loogieiphone]

I have owned fords all my life. Just got rid of my latest ford and I am never buying another ford again. They are pretty much the new bmw but worse

[@mostlymoparih5682]

Something Ford tried to control was used parts. Some years ago they were trying to start Ford only junkyards. It didn't work out for them. Insurance companies also don't like it when body shops make more money than the insurance companies want to allow. An estimate written for new factory parts gives the shops a chance to make extra money by using used parts. So much so that insurance companies write cheaper estimates because they write them using used and after market parts. Happy Motoring.

[@beetlusjuicus4013]

Fords just mad they couldn’t make it look as good

[@bradyspace]

If gov't was out of the way you'd have broncos with push rod v8's, solid axles, drop down tail gates and chrome bumpers... parked on the beach.

[@croixtucker1757]

And that beach would be lined with dead animals and covered in sludge 😂

[@IHC_23]

Regarding the safety point: if the chassis, which is the component crash-tested, remains unchanged, no additional testing is required. Modifying or changing body panels does not constitute an alteration to the chassis. For example, see Alpina and BMW. Additionally, the interior of the Vintage Bronco appears identical to my wife’s 2023 Badlands Bronco, with the airbags still located in their factory positions. Therefore, I don’t believe Ford’s safety argument has a strong foundation.

[@quademasters249]

I don't agree. Any changes can have unintended side effects, like the hood going into the windshield instead of crumpling up like the OEM one was designed to do. That said, if the owner buys a new Bronco and they then bolt these parts on, I see no legal issues. You can mod your own car. On the other hand, if this company is modding Bronco's and selling them on as new vehicles, they're just asking for trouble. I imagine Alpina has to crash some of their modded cars to make sure they still meet any safety standards.

[@IHC_23]

​ @quademasters249 If you visit NHTSA.gov and search for Alpina in the ratings section, you’ll see that all of their cars since 2011 are listed as 'Not Rated' across the board. This is because Alpina vehicles are often exempt from individual crash testing. As low-volume manufacturers working primarily as coachbuilders, they do not modify the main structure of the vehicles, so additional crash testing is not required. As for the concern about body panels being unsafe, I understand your point. While body panels themselves are not subject to crash testing, there are certification processes that ensure they meet 'OEM compliance' standards. If Vintage Broncos can demonstrate that their body panels conform to these standards, Ford should back down. They probably won’t, but they should.

[@ussindyboyz9683]

I’ve spent nearly $20k correcting fords piss poor manufacturing to make my 22 f-350 more reliable. This manufacturer is becoming a joke! Why am I loyal?

[@Averagegunenthusiast]

Isn’t Ford making money on the sale of the bronco? They are purchasing from Ford then modifying and selling them. Ford is being paid.

[@quademasters249]

I don't consider it a resto-mod. A resto-mod would be to install a modern drivetrain into an old Bronco. This is straight up modding. Like ricers. These people build body kits to bolt onto modern Bronco's.

[@bradyspace]

This is a bit like "Flash of Genius" lawsuit for windshield wipers. Didn't end well for Ford.

[@Sohave]

After a car manufacturer sells a car to a customer or reseller it is not their property anymore. If you repair, modify or resell a product you are allowed to call that product by its name. Common logic and morality. I hope the retro modding company throws the book at Ford! Also the US needs to change their legal system so that huge companies cant make this form of shenanigans towards their customers and the modding community.

[@lucianwarpula2891]

Exhibit 7 million of average big corporate greed

[@mostlymoparih5682]

Ford did not like it when after market bumpers were being sold so they started embossing Mustang in their back bumpers and taking back some of those sales.

[@antoniovillanueva308]

Wow, so I can have a classic Bronco with an Ecoboost engine? No, don't sign me up for that.

[@furmanmackey5479]

Ford is still feeling the pain from the Pinto and the Bronco II vehicles and the lawsuits that resulted. But, if the large number of very, very lightly used 21st century Broncos I'm seeing on used car lots is any indication of "Ford Tough" I'd probably feel just as comfortable and safe in one of the Vintage Broncos products as I would the "real" Broncos Ford keeps churning out.

[@Stackali]

actually ferrari did go after the companies that made replicas of their cars on the top of fieros and such and shut those companies down.

[@chadsmith7542]

Man, businesses like vintage are what i dream id create if i owned a restoration company, shameful to know how youd get treated when chasing a passion.

[@bryanhydel4884]

Titles in hand there's a large aftermarket Community for all parts since someone claims ownership and has the title they can do whatever they want to their property

[@macsloan58]

Excellent work. These vehicles aren’t any different than what an individual could do themselves by going apeshit with RealTruck, Amazon, American Trucks, Summit Racing, JEGS, and any number of other aftermarket car part providers. There is a good reason that “Ford” begins with the letter F.

[@bryanmcentush4788]

O, what we as the public will put up with in the name of GREED ,, sorry ,,,Safety. so someone has found a way to make the new piece of ,,,, car something one could live with as a daily. THIS guy deserves a freaking metal or at least a beer

[@mikhilmuhuthan6903]

A clear example of "You will own nothing and you will be happy."

[@perrywaaz3660]

Those pvc pipe tool holders are cool. Edit: Vintage Broncos should definitely get sued for claiming that their cars have all those safety certifications. I think Ford would be within their rights to sue for copyright infringement or something along those lines, but I think VB should be allowed to buy, modify, and resell whatever they want. Just without using Ford's branding and claiming to have certifications they don't.

[@DEInTheGarage]

Thanks! Here is the video where I made them kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJi4YYuDq7Bspqc

[@jessechristensen6028]

Being a collision guy I do wonder if they had to weld any new parts to the body because if so and if it’s most likely done with normal MiG welding they did compromise the structure of the body.

[@someoldguy109]

Real steel is better than plastic/ fiberglass. This is typical for major companies.

[@shattered115]

If Vintage Broncos had the customer provide a new Bronco and charged for the restyling service and related parts Ford would have no standing because they would not be selling vehicles but a styling service. By selling vehicles and invoking the Bronco name they get into murky legal waters.

[@stegomon]

Well my 90 ranger gad a dead 2.9. I swapped in a 4.0 from an explorer. I also plan on putting a 86 ranger nose on it. With a lift kit. Do I save the truck or throw it away

[@cconnon1912]

Yeah, Carr companies have no idea how bad this would be for them. if you buy something and you own it and you want to modify it you can. Or at least you should be able to. if this is an effort on their part to get people to buy new, Fords? It might be over for them.

[@mistyeyed7732]

My left ear likes this video

[@EthanShure]

LOL that is what I was thinking this entire time! I turned my phone so the bottom would face me, and the video got 80% quieter. 😂

[@georges2842]

The automotive industry can be summed up in three extremely similar phrases: "Then the government got involved, and it was pretty much downhill from there." "Then lawyers smelled money, and it was pretty much downhill from there." "Then the economy went to Hell, and it was pretty much downhill from there."

[@mpf1947]

Ford, and many others, need very expensive a lesson in the First-sale doctrine.

[@WoolfJ35]

I think has a lot to do with the name of the company, paired with the fact that they're using Ford's safety ratings on their vehicles. Vintage Broncos is playing a dangerous game that could affect a whole industry. They need to completely get rid of the safety promo, and change their name to something else and they'll be fine.

[@salvatorebaleno9807]

Ford should just offer them a contract and make money off of them doing the work. But it needs to be safety tested.

[@tracyrenko4171]

I thank if they can tell you what you’re allowed to do with something you already paid for them they should have to keep it warranted for life

[@michaelledford3327]

So glad Ford cares about safety as they fitted cars with airbags that are later recalled due to potential death or severe harm.

[@waynek805]

Well they were far from the only manufacturer that had air bags from an independent supplier that were found to be defective.

[@sicks6six]

Replacing body panels does not mean it has to be retested for crashing, if that were so body shops would all have to close, they use panels and shells made by anyone and Ford doesn't complain about that, the problem here is Ford knows they dropped the ball on this one, they should have been producing what people want, a 70s styled bronco with modern equipment, modern EFI engines, air-bags, and modern infotainment consoles built into dash boards,

[@amcupojoe]

I own an older Ford and have become singularly unimpressed by Ford in recent years. For example, the original Ford Lightning pickups were great! Factory rodded pickups for those who don't know. Now with the RIDICULOUS government mandated EVs, Ford has ruined the Lightning pickups. Further undermining themselves, Ford going after little guys who understand their vintage products better than the current Ford leadership does only adds fuel to the fire, hypothetically speaking, for me to look elsewhere for my next vehicle.

[@jaxsonsimpson-harris3113]

Right to repair, Right to modify!!

[@steelbak-customs]

You know, we could actually work together to create open source vehicles. #WeHaveTheTools

[@cassandralesh8536]

I drive an 89' mustang gt. it's restored and mildly modified. I doubt Ford cares

[@karendarrenmclaren]

"In the world"? Never seen a single one anywhere except USA. 🤔

[@willb3018]

In general I would say once Ford sells the vehicle that's it. But today we live in a world with too many lawyers trying to invent liabilities where they don't exist.I don't pretend to know anything about engineering for safety.. or anything else for that matter. But if some mishap happens in one of these vehicles as a result of something Ford didn't build in....or something that Ford did was modified... I can see an enterprising lawyer sitting back and thinking.....where can I get more money? From this little Georgia company? Or Ford?

[@georgefletcher9314]

It would be like me selling you my house and telling you that you can’t change anything about… Ford just needs to wake the f up and give us what we want..

[@screenprotech]

100%

[@chrisbyers386]

Government and corporations overreach

[@Wbfuhn]

I'm using headphones and the audio is nearly one sided. The left speaker is fine but the right speaker is very quiet.

[@just_some_rando6927]

@ 2:36 if you replaced the word customer with profit margin that would be more believable. This is the same company involved with the Pinto

[@VestedUTuber]

This is technically not an accurate video. They're not going after restomodding in general, they're going after a company that was using the _trademarked_ Bronco name without permission. You might notice that the company changed their name to Vintage Modern and has loaded their site with disclaimers saying to "not call their vehicles 'Broncos' anymore", this tells me it's probably going to be settled out of court. That being said, the reason why this is only _technically_ not accurate is because Ford has made some misleading statements about the case, claiming that it's over the resale of modded vehicles and not just a trademark issue, but you can't actually sue over that at all and if they tried to it'd just get dismissed. There's no legal basis to sue mod and restoration shops for simply reselling modified vehicles - if there was, Hennessy and RUF would have already been sued out of existence. Still, it is true that Ford is aiming for a LOT more than they can actually legally get. Do I think that Ford is completely in the right for this? No. Honestly, I would have tried to resolve the issue before escalating to a legal dispute in the first place. But I don't think Vintage Modern is completely clean here either. Point is, it's good to dig in deeper when stuff like this happens, there's usually more to it than the sensationalized headline of "big company does shit thing to small company".

[@DEInTheGarage]

Fair enough. Thanks for the insight!

[@aaadamt964]

I see both sides here but lets see how they both perform in a crash test.

[@nickz4993]

Probably not much different if they only swapped body panels.

[@jimh4375]

The stupid is hurting my head. All of the problems Ford has right now and this is a priority?

[@iwolchuckup]

Can someone explain to me how Ford is actually damaged by any of this? Wouldn't something like this just contribute to enthusiasm for the brand? And in regards to the safety thing... fair enough but not Ford's problem and I doubt most buyers of these things are thinking about airbags as much as handling/braking assuming they care at all.

[@duancoviero9759]

America....land of freedom....yeah right 🙄

[@scubasmith]

Good presentation. What about all those Dealer add-ons that no one asked for but the dealer wants to make you pay for them. Those are not factory, why is Ford not coming down on them first! They actually have leverage against those guys.

[@philbrennaman4572]

Good point, some Jeep dealers might have to look over their shoulder.

[@flyingdutchmanindustries5877]

SHUT UP ford, SHUT UP!

[@charlesnickell7257]

So ford is becoming just like Ferrari with there vehicles

[@m.strutz5715]

"If you're that kind of heathen, have at it..". 😂. Doug, it's the only way I'll ever have my Ferrari!

[@tomfaretra2129]

Big brother backseat driver!

[@tagert1975]

This has nothing to do with restomoding. But I guess I fell for the clickbait. If it was about restomoding they would sue Icon and others. This has to do with how this one business is selling modified new vehicles and could have easily avoided it without making certain claims and so forth. Vintage Broncos is making claims that could get Ford sued and to protect themselves they have to take action here. It has nothing to do with any 'you own nothing and be happy' schemes. The Ford Pinto was a media hit job and a myth. Anyone who has done any reading up on it knows how the media misrepresented things such as calculations the federal government required Ford and other automakers to do.

[@chiefknowstomuch]

#myrigmychoice

[@Sensidreadband]

FOrd is very nazi with their brand for sure. ONce you purchase an automobile then its your Rite to mod it, however the company should just drop the safety ads and just say its only a body kit (and could be of any shape thats road legal). I drive 2 late-model Ford V8s. Zero chance ill ever sit in an ev of any brand. EVs belong back as remote controlled cars and not on the road.

[@matthewjones12181]

Well, Henry Ford did get a medal from the Nazis...

[@Sensidreadband]

@@matthewjones12181 Operation Paperclip was when the gov imported nazi war criminals to become high ranking professors and creating NASA. NASA was literally founded by a ww2 Nazi.

[@theelmobad1]

This is one of the DUMBEST thing I have heard in a while! STOP

[@adamg3911]

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