Why Does Forza Horizon 5 Feel So Dead?

[@rlly_random1]

it feels dead because you practically get everything at the start and there's no progression

[@GigaDarth]

I know I got the amg one after less then an hour whereas in fh3 I haven’t gotten the centiario yet

[@romanianbear8873]

They should make it like the Hot Wheels map...you start with D class cars and work your way up tu X class

[@briabbruh6183]

Yeah I agree like I know you start off a superstar from fh4 but I would much rather earn it. I'm not even joking I got gifted a divo and a pagani the first 10 minutes of playing

[@Clubloosedriftguy]

Sometimes I don’t mind getting what I want right away because most of us have lives and don’t have hours to spend everyday playing.

[@Phanex]

Exactly!! Thats exactly what i tell people word for word🤣

[@SirDeserto]

Another important point to mention: the nights lasts way too little. It always bothers me

[@TheHeisenBuldge]

At the very least next update will bring extended night time cycle

[@TC7-Thecomplex7]

This is so true, the map looks so good at night and it's fun to drive with others at night.

[@TheHeisenBuldge]

@@TC7-Thecomplex7 tell me about it, at the same time it makes me wish that they used the second expansion for modern city instead of rally 2.0

[@lillotaa]

@@TheHeisenBuldge i hope so, i timed how long the night cycle lasts and it was around only one or two songs ☠️ like wtf

[@VerticalStrafes]

@@TheHeisenBuldge isn’t it only temporary for the next series

[@pauledwards9210]

Pedestrians would make such a big difference to the game’s vibe, all of the houses out in the wilds would be so much better if they just had a couple sitting on the porch or something

[@dogge420]

yeah like fh3

[@thequestbro]

There do. wtf

[@Eeveethegamer26]

​@@thequestbroI haven't seen hardly any NPC's in the big city. It's boring af

[@garudabravo1733]

Would be wild if you could get out of your car. Heck, even a mode where you can walk around the house you just spent 7 Million credits on and maybe play some mini games.

[@TazGaming141]

Would be cool if we could see planes and helicopters flying around the map...and let the volcano get active once a while..a game mode of "aviod the lava flow" would be cool too

[@YuwanThayakaran]

The Horizon plane does fly occasionally around the map, but it's very rare to come by - And yeah having the volcano randomly explode would seriously be cool

[@Full_send_alfie]

@@YuwanThayakaran hello it is i

[@TazGaming141]

@@YuwanThayakaran I've never seen that plane bruh😅 but I meant like constant flying around at certain parts of the map...I think the game should have an active airport too...planes flying in and out you know...flying across the sky

[@Max_HP_]

@@TazGaming141 the best places to see it are the castle and very left of the motorway

[@TazGaming141]

@@Max_HP_ the moterway?

[@RidgeRunner4501]

I feel like you don’t even know Horizon is a music festival anymore

[@benn87]

I think you can sum it up quite simply. The biggest problem with Horizon 5 is the atmosphere. The game doesn't have any. That's why the game feels so dead.

[@alwin.k]

For me there are three main reasons why I think FH in general is feeling dead after a while 1: As you mentioned, the traffic should be way smarter and there should be a lot more traffic so you can have fun trying to drive as fast as possible through it. 2: You get everything way to fast. You have to play like 5-10 Hrs max to get so much money that you can buy mostly all cars and tune them. It would be way funnier if you had to race races to earn upgrades for cars and so on. 3: Exterior tuning. If we had way more different exterior tunings at every car it would be way more interesting and fun to make car meets.

[@yrrr4871]

Atleast the eventlab community is keeping the game alive with custom maps

[@CRUDEDriving]

I actually prefer FH4 over FH5 purely for the map! Driving around in FH4 feels and looks so much better in my opinion. I play mostly on a wheel setup with h-pattern and clutch, so I really enjoy cruising. One of the biggest things missing from FH5 for cruising is more areas where you can park! I actually had to start FH4 all over again, and I'm doing it with no HUD and 125% difficulty on my wheel setup, using the GPS voice to find my way around - it's such a great way to get immersed in the game again. 💯 I definitely think all the Horizon's could do with more life in the world, such as pedestrians (as you mentioned), more wildlife and other forms of transport like planes flying around, maybe more traffic in certain areas? And 100% on traffic having more intelligence - they should be more aware of the players! If you have played the original "The Crew" game, they had a bit of that happening and it bought some life to the game world. I remember seeing military jets and helicopters when you were close to military bases, huge planes landing and taking off near the airport, wildlife, police, etc. Things like that, make all the difference...

[@eerosu5356]

Yep

[@me.5751]

To me the original Forza horizon was perfect in terms of story, interaction and everything, a revamped Forza horizon Colorado, with the new cars, physics, and off road and water would be the perfect game

[@dawnslayer]

literally

[@Wft-bu5zc]

Map was kind of boring though. 4 and 5 have more realistic maps, but 1 wasn't really a realistic representation of Colorado IMO. It looked like Colorado but didn't have the recognizable places like Edinburgh in 4.

[@me.5751]

@@Wft-bu5zc yea, I think that was them testing the waters, but an updated Colorado map with the expansiveness of fh5 and all the off road and water availability would be awsome

[@goo_dragon]

@@Wft-bu5zc All of FH1's roads were fun and memorable, you definitely can't say that about any of the other installments (maybe FH2). As a Coloradan, the locations were clearly fake, but it felt like they definitely fit the look and vibe of towns I've been to... In fact I almost prefer locations being fictitious, since the roads can be as fun as the devs want them to be

[@RB-H]

I really miss the highway drag races we had in FH4. It was also great to see huge convoys of players driving around and car shows

[@almabatekert_villanykorte3387]

I just realized that's what i miss the most about fh4.. There were certain fun locations where you were almost guaranteed to meet other players at any time,it made the game feel a little more alive for sure

[@arjay3822]

They have a big enough map for road trips like in fh2 so there's no reason to not have them

[@Ser_Salty]

At least in 4 one thing that added a lot of atmosphere and "liveliness" was that the seasons actually made a huge visual difference. I feel like they swung too far in the opposite direction after people complained about winter and now the seasons seem to barely change anything in terms of visuals. Going from the very green summer to the yellow and orange fall felt great, even if the only thing that really changed in terms of gameplay is a couple of puddles. That also helped set it apart from the other Horizon games, despite the once again very, very similar gameplay. And the previous expansions were a very different kind of atmosphere to the main map, like the snow island in 3 compared to the main map full of deserts, jungles, palm trees and sunshine, and then there's the rally expansion in 5 which is just going to be... more of the same as the main map.

[@mitTÜVimKonflikt]

What i love about the first Horizon is that you HAVE to use the roads. I think the roads in Fh3/4/5 are way too wide, straight and you can just fly across the whole map. No challenge no fun

[@NapPro771]

I think that something we could potentially see in the future horizon games is where you can go on a bridge to another part of the map, for example if you look at fh4 map you can see manny bridges leaving and it would be so cool to be able to drive on them

[@HUMMERCollective]

That's because the ones in Horizon 4 are the Fourth Road and Rail bridge

[@ArthurLopes39]

The sparse map feels like a byproduct of the map being designed with The Eliminator in mind.

[@Clubloosedriftguy]

If they made night long and did underglow that alone would make it better

[@CaptainGT1]

I actually started playing horizon 1 and honestly It's the best horizon I've played so far. It has actually a storylike progression.

[@rezalmao]

Yeah forza games used to have the classic band progression and a story where u had to work ur way to the top forza games nowadays don't have a story

[@augustooliveira5588]

It still is the best Horizon game to me. Sure, the graphics arent the best, the map isnt large by today's standards (it still looks and feels great tho), the car list is relatively small (even then it contains a lot of classics and iconic cars) but other than that it is perfect. There you feel like you are part of the festival, not like it is just an excuse of a background, and actually having progression and rivals was a great thing that should have stayed

[@ramgowda8286]

for me its mainly the car sounds that don't work they are a huge improvement from previous games but the quality of them make the cars feel like some sort of toys, especially when you rev them out it would be better if they sounded more like those in asseto corsa

[@Asbestdeparting24]

Game (apart from festival) feels like march 2020

[@tehangrybird345]

One of the great things about the Lego expansion in FH4 was that the Airport wasn’t abandoned, and i honestly liked that, it made the map feel more alive.

[@horizon_angel]

0:42 mate, the autoshow actually plays music, well only if you put radio on, so your safe bet to show it on YT is by playing streamer radio

[@815klipz]

In Horizon 6 They need to have a better autoshow, pedestrains on the sidewalks like in Horizon 3, Modern cities, people on the beach, and maybe a bigger festival. for me, that would make it more alive.

[@blankpaper43]

There might not be any traffic due to limitations with the older Xboxes. Hopefully the next Horizon game is for newer generations cause its really keeping them from potential.

[@BroomW]

Easy to complete story Bland boring map design (it’s mostly sand) The festival is quite boring The drag strip doesn’t have any lights so you have to trust that the other person won’t do the 3rd honk early

[@Archeoptery]

'but the map is so big' and it's full of a whopping: Nothing

[@BMWMGT]

The entire quarter of the map with the canyon is incredible dead

[@nightavenger375]

That’s what happens when the devs create the map to accommodate a lackluster game mode (Eliminator)

[@Melted_TF]

What I did recently was turn on all the difficult settings: simulation steering, abs off, tcs off, etc. Honestly made the game a bit more fun

[@Mayonnaise-l3c]

One good feature that the devs should add to FH6, is when you buy a car, you get to decide which trim you want

[@benjaminmaher8896]

This was also most of my complaints when the game came out, I felt bored of it within a week

[@ld9387]

I only played the game for the first month. Literally feels like horizon 4 with a new map.

[@aniket2665]

FH3 vibe is still unmatched

[@noblechump9]

Honestly they should just chuck in a modern city with pedestrians and traffic like fh3 into the map. Theres already a lot of empty space and wouldnt take too much work as long as they dont make a whole other story for it.

[@Travis-guy-247]

You must have something changed in your settings, because I can hear the music just fine when the autoshows, whether that be the main festival or the outposts. It's exactly the same as FH4, where the music sounds like it's coming from a boom box in the corner of the garage

[@LFXGaming]

a massive thing for me i hear no-one mentioning is the roads. they are way too big and don't feel fun to drive on at all, the wideness plus how stable the camera is gives the game no sense of difficulty or speed. taking a look at dirt rally is a great example, because of narrow roads and the great camera movement and shake, you feel constantly on edge and insanely fast even when going only 88mph. the offroad sections are okay but the way the cars handle over them doesn't incentivise proper rallying and doing it with actual rally/offroad cars.

[@justinhti]

fh5 is lowkey the worst horizon game out of the series 😅

[@Max_HP_]

justinhti?! never expected to see you, i was just watching you in a jackultragamer video. The best electric car one where you didnt hear red light!! 😂

[@leonn1196]

Very good video, thank you!

[@DropXplode]

Gta just no crime problem solved I like being able to walk around houses and go in a garage and look at all your cars and the customization is great

[@pauledwards9210]

Test drive unlimited is a similar game to what you described, gta no crime

[@DropXplode]

@Paul Edwards hm never heard of it but thxs sounds fun

[@FatherLamb]

@@DropXplode whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? lol TDU and TDU2 is literally that. Surprised you never heard of it. And Test Drive Solar Crown comes out not too long from now... so be ready for more

[@marge1079]

they should have it so every once in a while you see a supercar or modified car every once in a while

[@Emper0rH0rde]

Forza needs an autoshow that actually feels like you're at an autoshow. Every single Forza Horizon game features a non-show autoshow that's really just you flipping through a catalog.

[@dudscoconut]

Why I don’t feel it dead Because I don’t have money to buy the game and wanted it so much

[@HarjotShah]

I agree with your points but what I don’t understand is why FH5 is being talked about so much more than it’s rivals, NFS UB (for example). I really can’t put my finger on why I go to play FH5 again over choosing NFS UB even though the later is a better game in many regards. I liked NFSUB but got bored of it much sooner than FH5. And YT suggests the same pattern, FH5 related content is still be produced more

[@senorporko3299]

this is why I want fh6 to be based in Japan there is a mix of mountain roads open fields and city's with loads of public transport

[@Rudenbehr]

The issue with Forza isn’t the location, Japan won’t fix the problems the game suffers from: being a boring tech demo.

[@senorporko3299]

@@Rudenbehr the problem with the game is each one is based more towards a specific sub culture of cars and the location makes it obvious that's why some were as diverse as Japan would be a good location for fh6

[@Mekk7]

the controll of the car change i cant understand it. i was playing on wheel with perfekt settings and over night everything was different , all cars feels like front gear can someone please explain did i do something wrong or was it the update???

[@antoban691]

4:30 bro game was developed during Covid

[@EmperorDank]

My main issue is i got it on launch and unlocked everything and got rich while the online was still broken af. When the online finally got somewhat functional me and my friends were already tired of it as we already had everything we wanted, and solo play is honestly just uninteresting

[@Codatronic]

I can’t lie, I never use the radio in FH5, I’d rather have the soundtrack of whatever car I’m driving (yes, even the electric ones) Maybe some people think this is weird, but I don’t ever upgrade or tune cars either so 🤷‍♂️

[@maximusalpha5630]

That's really not weird i too enjoy driving cars that are stock and for the cars i really like i have multiple of them to try out different builds

[@Sam36192]

Really the only song I truly liked from the entire soundtrack was that one Porter Robinson song on Pulse, the rest of it sucks so badly

[@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious]

The "ancient map" part wouldn't be much of a problem if it was better made, or if only there was some context for it. Or even both, and Zelda Breath of The Wild is the perfect exaple, in that game, Zelda explains to us that the world was almost completely destroyed 100 years ago, and even with that, it still had some proper identity

[@dogge420]

FH3 had an amazing atmosphere with animals, a good airfield, a proper city fr, a good desert, a good jungle, car meet-ups!!!!, and especially good pedestrians (incredible map)(incredible game)

[@HarisAdams-v1p]

The reason why it has no people in the the side walk is because some people don't know how to drive they hit the NPC and show blood and it is rated pg3

[@AshutoshPathak]

Subbed mate.

[@zerolife8322]

I think the biggest problem i have with forza horizon 5 is just its lack of variety in the map Like all you have are deserts and rainforests

[@ld9387]

Too many open fields

[@Jza-GZa40k]

Yep very boring

[@DiegoRamos-rz1ks]

The overall feel of Horizon 5 is super dead. I wished the mechanics from the previous titles had been added to 5 and the next titles that would make the players feel like they’re apart of the event.

[@Seb-astian]

I kinda hate that the streets are just straights that get combined, it just isn't fun after 100 gamedays in general forza horizon

[@Idk-eq1ex]

I think it just feels so dead because of how flat and empty the desert is. And like 40% of the map is desert

[@someoneunknxwn]

7:38 am i the onl one who tought tht it says "cumout" on car instead of "gumout" ;---;

[@placeholder-3]

ive completed all the main story missions.. theres nothing i wanna do, i dont wanna play the game anymore smh.

[@cc22cc32cc1]

The thing that kills the game for me... the fact that they want me to grind for a car once a season, I find this as a complete bore to the game being forced to play or else i wont have the newest car.

[@Stoofast]

Bro im Tunisian and i understand all your video because im Bad in English language but i really like your video lol ❤️🇹🇳

[@cameronuy9552]

It would be cool if there was an option to have characters join you in events or random spawns to challenge you

[@DroiDolf0]

Trying to see my friends who are in my convoy is difficult. I have to prompt a drag race and finish it with them. Only after the race we can all see each other in the same convoy. Annoying to have to do this all the time.

[@mikecoxlong2407]

They should add more cars on the highway so we can swing in and out of traffic

[@housespider]

I've gone back to playing fh4 and to be honest it's been really enjoyable

[@redda2]

Completely agree. The map feels like no one is living in it. You are just driving in an abandoned country

[@dylanstead2341]

The sandstorn wasn't the best but at least it would switch it up a bit

[@sina5408]

And also there is no snow in the winter!it feels so bad and it doesn't make seasons different from each other.but winter in Forza horizon 4 was amazing

[@finnkleinbrinke9062]

I planned to get the game, but got to try it out first when i got a 3 month (1 euro promotion) gamepass subscription. It was really sick, but after 3 months i didn't fell like buying it. I would love to playing it again, but not for full price at least.

[@utvoltz1728]

I feel like the ability to go offroad anywhere kinda makes a map dull. I remember the old nfs maps (Underground 2, MW, Carbon. And horizon 1/2!) so well because you actually had to drive on the roads. You couldn't just hop off into the fields everywhere.

[@justmechanicthings]

no in game voice chat either, despite the menu and driver lists suggesting it exists

[@williamkim164]

Forza need to add real life exhaust after you modified and also add cars that we actually can buy at autoshow

[@SVPSkins]

Of all the things you could of suggested, exhausts are what you first though of?

[@olavofernandes7286]

No life, same reused car models, same lame body kits, no story to end, lots of random clothes, lack of debt of customisation to cars even old midnight club, nfs underground, test drive did way much better

[@cardinal151515]

I never understand the perfect reviews of this game.

[@MilkDrinker218]

There’s nothing. It’s exactly how people stereotypically view Mexico. Just a million square miles of desert. Cacti, dead bushes, the odd town or farm, and then nothing. Everything is either so spread apart that you fast travel everywhere or it’s just not worth the drive. If this is “freedom”, then we’re definitely way too spoiled for choice.

[@KurumaDesigns]

I absolutely agree with every statement you have!

[@amazanta1605]

We just need FH1 progression like the wristband system and earning money that was mostly bellow 10K and gatekeeping pries only rewarding u with wheelspins after a level milestone rather then constantly

[@TheMr1995carlos]

The main problem is that it's a pc and Xbox game and the last one is a huge limitation because of its max performance.

[@connorbrennan7728]

I finally got around to playing this game with my mates, but we can't use our own cars, only using the same car as them or borrowing their car if we don't own it, does any more experienced players have some troubleshooting steps for this? had no luck with stuff I have found online

[@abdullahalam5750]

If your doing a race find a blueprint with 'anything goes'. Itll let you use any car you want on it

[@YoloDennis]

On top of there being no progression, it also didn't introduce anything majorly new to the franchise apart from Eventlab compared to FH4. Eventlab is absolutely amazing and there is a lot to see and experience, but the game itself does very little to promote skilled creators and awesome maps.

[@Artificeral]

Forza Horizon needs to bring back Rob Gorham to choose the songs for the soundtrack. He did that for Horizon 1 and 2 which is why those soundtracks felt so awesome. He actually founded Bestival. And we also need a modern city expansion. And some story cutscenes with cheesy characters.

[@theducksarecoming]

i honestly forgot this game existed until now

[@davidgovender]

the music still plays in the autoshow but its muffled

[@arneli0]

The muffled music can be fixed with a muffled toilet club sound just saying it would work

[@Enrryk]

It would be amazing if i started from the bottom and scale my way to the top. It always feels weird how I start the game and everyone is just having an orgasm everytime anyone says my name.

[@cameronvanhooft]

It seems like 90% of Racing Game channels are crapping on FH5 and Forza in general right now - It shows a significant decline even in the last few months

[@KloseDatBaxkdoor]

Needs more traffic. Smaller roads. Needs to be risks to going fast. More pedestrians. More random things in the map sort of like GTA.

[@senfzwelchderzweite3534]

To be honest, I wouldn't complain about the music at the festival side, while there is a way bigger problem you showed... Leaving the garage at a car festival and except for the crowd, there is just noone else. No cars, no nothing... Just empty streets.

[@ghostprxphet]

The most important part of an open-world racing game is the map. The entire free roam and every event takes place on these roads. In FH5 the roads are just... boring. The only road that is interesting to drive on is the volcano road. Why they only put one single mountain pass/touge onto the map is a mystery for me.

[@Fordinho69]

UK maps will always be clear because it makes it feel for realistic i used to do police chases on FH4 with uk police wraps but it’s dead with mexico feels less real and this applies to all the other features

[@charlies916]

Smoke slider, just like fov slider. Low, medium, high. That should be an option. Also adding for slider for console. That would change the game

[@charlies916]

FOV^

[@yoyo-nf1ww]

For sure too little traffic in town.

[@FuIIDiveVR]

Big disagree with the sparse map. They intentionally made them large and empty so you could have the freedom to cruise and test out any vehicle you want.

[@notthemanace]

I’m just waiting on TDU3 atp

[@IND3CISIV3]

To me, the only thing you can do in Forza is step on the accelerator and never let go while causing mass destruction :'D thats just what I do when I get bored of a racing game.. just drive like ive lost my mind

[@tibor5675]

There should be an option or game mode where you can earn money very hard and for start you don't get so much car and so easily.. Like you have a borrowed car and you need to earn your very first own car, and then tune it piece by piece and not instantly go up from 150-200 hp to 700-1000 hp. Everything should have a cost that you can earn really hard. Like in NFS Unbound.

[@KuyaArbee]

I'm just tired of having to "LOGIN" on a daily basis to do the weekly stuff... it got OLD SO FAST IN FH4.... and the did the SAME SH*T in FH5..... come on FORZA!...........

[@hello_alpine1693]

Does it not keep you logged in? I literally never got prompted to after the first time I started the game

[@KuyaArbee]

@@hello_alpine1693 like you can't go days or weeks without playing because by then the playlist is gone and the car to win is gone... then if you're lucky they might bring it back or you might get it during a super wheel spin. Thank you,

[@hello_alpine1693]

@@KuyaArbee ohhhh, no I completely agree, I just misinterpreted what you meant by "log in" lol

[@greendegenerationx]

TDU Solar Crown out soon(ish) guys, don't worry

[@latifilaspoon]

the ai drive too slow too, like who does 45 kph in the countryside? No, they do around 70 kph in the countryside

[@Just_AnotherPlayer]

I bought FH5 last year and I have to say I am a bit disappointed, at least I got it half off though

[@NotPsyduckc]

You can actually hear the music in the autoshow.

[@k.r.99]

It's not the game that feels dead, it's our overstimulated brains and hearts ...

[@maxsherman1685]

I replayed horizon 3 and the original horizon. Fh5 is definitely just dead/poorly made

[@k.r.99]

@@maxsherman1685 that's what i'm saying. We're so used to other things and have those experiences and feelings and maps from other games printed in our core memory, that this game feels dull compared to that. It's like when you listen to loud music via headphones and then try to watch a movie on low volume with speakers (maybe it's the wrong comparison to make, but i hope you get the idea).

[@fpsman442]

Since you love racing games and fast cars you might me fan of Fast & Furious series!

[@issouhil3025]

The main reason is progression also the map feel so empty the car list is not that new most of the cars are recycled from fh4 and for the online experience there is not much to do i dunno why they removed ranked adventure from fh4 and why i can't choose class why i have to matchmake and hope i get the class race i want