Why Does Germany Build Suspended Monorails (When Almost Nobody Else Does)?

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The Tim Traveller

The Tim Traveller

3 жыл бұрын

*** FILMED IN 2019 ***. Suspended monorails are very rare: there are only 8 working systems on the planet. So how have Germany got four of them? Is Germany the future? I went to Düsseldorf to investigate...
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FURTHER RESEARCH
www.railway-technology.com/pr...
www.monorails.org/tMspages/Sk...
Great little vid on the Skytrain by Calling All Stations: • S2E3: The Dusseldorf A...
Archive footage of the Bennie Railplane from Pathé: • The "George Bennie" Ra...
IMAGE CREDITS
SAFEGE Test Track by Jean-Henri Manara - commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
Dresden Bergbahn by Norbert Aepli - commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
Bennie Railplane blue plaque by Richard Sutcliffe - commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
Closeup of Wuppertal wheels by Matthias Böhm - commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
Higashiyama Park Monorail in Nagoya by 円周率3パーセント (Enshuritsu 3 percent) - commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...

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@fredygump5578
@fredygump5578 3 жыл бұрын
Tim, you forgot the most important reason for the monorail: something for tourists to do when their airplane is delayed for 2 hours!
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 3 жыл бұрын
Come visit & see squished & bloody pigeons & other birds rain down on the windshield of the monorail you are riding in...
@Lar411
@Lar411 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidhollenshead4892 What the hell...? Why would there be squished pigeons?
@zu438
@zu438 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lar411 it sounds like the voice of experience rather than someone who could explain why the pidgeons found their end on the window of a monorail
@donkmeister
@donkmeister 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidhollenshead4892 Oh god, they don't roost inside the rail box do they?! Seems plausible that they'd use it to get out of the weather but surely the noise and vibration of frequent approaching trains makes the box less inviting to our feathered friends?
@nicholase2868
@nicholase2868 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, is that how they make schnitzel?
@fjell6543
@fjell6543 3 жыл бұрын
Monorails are really funny, they make the best one-liners!
@YetAnotherGeorgeth
@YetAnotherGeorgeth 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno, suspended monorails are terrible for finishing jokes, they always leave me hanging.
@thespectator1243
@thespectator1243 3 жыл бұрын
Ba-Dum - Tsss
@samcoupland
@samcoupland 3 жыл бұрын
@@thespectator1243 kzbin.info/www/bejne/lX2vgmZvjc2Frbs
@TheGoukaruma
@TheGoukaruma 3 жыл бұрын
Better than yours that's for sure. 😉
@jemmatthewson5543
@jemmatthewson5543 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGoukaruma ouch that’s gonna bruise
@zomfgroflmao1337
@zomfgroflmao1337 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to mention that the first one (the one in Wuppertal) was really important because of the style of city Wuppertal is. While others of these hanging trains may be "because it looks cool", it was kind of the only solution for Wuppertal as there was only one space for this kind of public transport available, and that was right above the river.
@AaronOfMpls
@AaronOfMpls 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine Wuppertal could've built a more conventional elevated rail line. But the trackbed structure probably would've covered up streets and the river a lot more. Compare a Chicago or New York el to the amount of space -- and shade -- under the Schwebebahn. 🙂
@Timberwolf69
@Timberwolf69 2 жыл бұрын
@@AaronOfMpls There have been railway tracks on both sides of the valley of the Wupper, but due to the topgraphy in this area, you almost always had to climb a steep hill to get to the next railway station. The valley is quite narrow in the area of Wuppertal with a high density of buildings, thus not much room for traffic. Putting the rails on stilts spanning across the river and streets alike didn't just create a unique means of transportation, but also one of, if not the safest overall. As far as I know, it took about 100 years until the first fatal injury occurred.
@AaronOfMpls
@AaronOfMpls 2 жыл бұрын
@@Timberwolf69 Yup, a derailment and fall in 1999, caused by a temporary fastener on the running rails. Overnight work on the track had fallen behind schedule, and in their haste to clean up before the first train of the day, the workers apparently forgot the fastener.
@rin_etoware_2989
@rin_etoware_2989 Жыл бұрын
Tim actually mentions this in his Wuppertal video!
@user-ie4tt1xp7j
@user-ie4tt1xp7j 22 күн бұрын
There are many places like that, just too poor to build a monorail.
@JimWorthey
@JimWorthey 3 жыл бұрын
As Tim explains, the cars swing out going around turns, so the passengers feel no side-force. In the summer of 1964 I lived in Wuppertal and rode the Wuppertaler Schwebebahn often. There are plenty of curves and the lack of side forces is obvious and helpful. It is indeed a physics lesson for people growing up there.
@JackMacLupus
@JackMacLupus Жыл бұрын
Yeah but the system of the Schwebebahn has one big flaw: Its not multiline-capable because a switch is hard to build. For More than one line or more tracks other systems are better. But for a single-line system like in Wuppertal (were i was born) its perfect.
@JimWorthey
@JimWorthey Жыл бұрын
As I remember the Wuppertal system, it has a limitation relating to the way it is guided by the rail. On regular train tracks, the average person may think that the train is guided by constant rubbing of the flanges, but that's not true. It is guided because the wheel surfaces are tapered and each pair of wheels are solidly connected to the axle. That system guides the train, even at high speeds, with little crashing and rubbing of the flanges. As I understand the Wuppertal system, the flanges do constantly rub. Probably the wheels or track are greased. The rubbing flanges limit the speed to some number like 50 km/h. That's OK for urban transit. Anyway it's fun!
@Xerlash
@Xerlash Жыл бұрын
​@@JackMacLupus​ no, theres simply no economic value in stretching it out sideways in Wuppertal. There are Switches in it, allowing the trains to be stored / introduced to and from from the depot.
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to submit "Suspend your disbelief!" as a possible slogan.
@geordieal
@geordieal 3 жыл бұрын
I think that deserves a suspended sentence for cheesy lines
@mistie710
@mistie710 3 жыл бұрын
Has to be better than "Insta Twit Face"
@zardzewialy
@zardzewialy 3 жыл бұрын
Now that was a low dangling fruit :D
@Coolsomeone234
@Coolsomeone234 3 жыл бұрын
*bruh*
@gary3561
@gary3561 3 жыл бұрын
Very good sir. I live here in Düsseldorf when we first arrived we did take our kids on sundays for a ride and to see the aircraft. Its novelty has worn off somewhat now but not the one in Wuppertal. I love the schwebebahn.
@arminbayan
@arminbayan 3 жыл бұрын
As a Düsseldorf resident with insomnia who lives not too far away from the airport, I sometimes go to the airport just to shop at the supermarket there which is open until midnight, a rarity here in Germany. When I'm not able to drive myself, for whatever reason, the sky train seems like a gift from the gods, an incredibly smooth ride. Also, if you plan to visit, you will basically never be asked for a ticket ever.
@michaelrenper796
@michaelrenper796 3 жыл бұрын
Confirming the statement about the ticket. It only exists in theory, or for being prepared for the day when thousands of tourist flood in and crowd the trains. For all practical purposes its a free airport shuttle train.
@Fuchswinter
@Fuchswinter 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't even remember that you need a ticket, so yeah, that's how often you get asked lol
@vacuuu
@vacuuu 3 жыл бұрын
Confirming the statement about the supermarket. Miss it so much to live in Unterrath.
@kwl1497
@kwl1497 3 жыл бұрын
I can't remember that I need a ticket to take that. I thought it is free like almost every airport rail. sometimes I just take it for fun or to watch the cute little rabbits on the ground.
@arminbayan
@arminbayan 3 жыл бұрын
@@kwl1497 The rabbits are so cute. They are the highlight of every stroll through the nearby Kartäuser Park.
@sualtam9509
@sualtam9509 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot one major benefit of those H-Bahns: They are driverless and can be run via relatively simple programms. This is a huge advantage in long term financial planning.
@cainabel2553
@cainabel2553 Жыл бұрын
New Paris metro line 14 is driverless; metro line 4 is being converted to secured track which will enable driverless function. (By relatively simple, I guess you mean "no IA", "1000 simpler than Tesla", not "trivial".)
@hurricanefury439
@hurricanefury439 10 ай бұрын
wow my city should get one of these
@AlohaBiatch
@AlohaBiatch 3 жыл бұрын
I really wish more countries would consider this for construction along crowded urban roads. The footprint it takes on the ground is so small compared to even a conventional monorail (which is already much better than elevated heavy rail), but the fact that it's suspended means that you get a more unobstructed view of the surroundings from the ground, and the rubber wheels means it's so quiet it wouldn't even bother people living next to it!
@bocahdongo7769
@bocahdongo7769 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, it's surprisingly as big as normal narrow gauge train or normal monorail. It's just inverted because it looks cool, not because anything. You can build light normal train with standar support size as suspended monorail It's not more better than you use B&M Invert Rollercoaster as a transportation device. Heck, it's waaay better than standar suspended monorail because it's faster (up to 120 kmh), much more tight footprint (high-G banked turn), fully automatic self contolled, and you can go upside down if you wanted more "cooler transportation"
@lucretius8050
@lucretius8050 2 жыл бұрын
Maintenance sounds like a pain and in times of emergencies i probably won't want to be in one.
@p_serdiuk
@p_serdiuk 2 жыл бұрын
@@bocahdongo7769 I don't get it, the ground supports for two lines of dangletrain occupy less space than a single ground line of a conventional train plus the infrastructure around it (electric posts, fences, etc.) while also not requiring a bridge to cross over it. It's better than suspended light rail because you need far less materiel to weather-proof the tracks. Suspended light rail only achieves this by building a tunnel that encloses the entire structure.
@bocahdongo7769
@bocahdongo7769 2 жыл бұрын
@@p_serdiuk standard monorail can take far less space by wide by utilizing shared support on bottom, if you really that concern with space Or if you really-really-really concern with space, you can use B&M Invert Rollercoaster as transportation device, it literally can go in-and-out building and meandering around tight corner and alley, while maintaining 100 km/h speed
@p_serdiuk
@p_serdiuk 2 жыл бұрын
@@bocahdongo7769 Yes but the problem with covering the tracks still remains. Rollercoasters are a joke.
@jogirichter9271
@jogirichter9271 3 жыл бұрын
The train at Dortmund was a R&D project of the Technical University (my alma mater) put to good use to connect the north and the south campus. There‘s a ravine separating those two locations, making it quite difficult to get to the next lecture on time by bicycle. The network started as a simple point-to-point connection and has been expanded step by step. And because there was this R&D project that had consumed a little bit of government funding, the guys at Düsseldorf Airport were asked to check out the Dortmund train system when they started looking for something to solve their public transportation needs. End of story.
@danielamaus
@danielamaus 3 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, in the beginning the H-Bahn got stuck quite often, but that's long ago. And in the mid-90ies there was a web page with a java applet that displayed the location of the trains, that definitely hanged quite often or even crashed. Fortunately that applet didn't control the H-Bahn.
@jogirichter9271
@jogirichter9271 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielamaus Yes, I remember that the H-Bahn (Hochbahn, meaning "elevated train") car got stuck in heavy side winds over the ravine once in a while. Apparently this was triggered by an overzealous safety system that took a while to finetune. Since the Dortmund Firefighters didn't have a ladder tall enough to reach the car in this position, they constructed a special "rescue car" to reach the stranded passengers. "Getting stuck on the H-Bahn" was a popular excuse for showing up late in those days. 😀
@WombatBrunft
@WombatBrunft 3 жыл бұрын
@@jogirichter9271 I've also studied in Dortmund ~15y ago and yes, it was always a good excuse :) When a freind of mine an I arrived at the station in the morning and got the "due to...the H-Bahn will be delayed for X time..." we always said to us: "god has spoken, we sadly can't attend this mornigs lecture. Good times... But I never got stuck in the the H-Bahn. I just "stranded" at the stations on campus or in Eichlinghofen.
@carstenbruck6832
@carstenbruck6832 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the Dortmund monorail also a project to test driverless systems? The Dortmund and Düsseldorf systems operate without driver.
@jogirichter9271
@jogirichter9271 3 жыл бұрын
@@carstenbruck6832 Jepp, that's true.
@cambridgeh.lutece6658
@cambridgeh.lutece6658 3 жыл бұрын
I keep forgetting that the beginning of the pandemic was 15 months ago, not just 2 weeks ago, and that 2019 was two years ago, not just one.
@57thorns
@57thorns 3 жыл бұрын
2020, the year everyone forgot existed, except as a dim nightmare.
@barvdw
@barvdw 3 жыл бұрын
@@57thorns yes, I still have some new year's wishes for 2021, contemplating of sending them out now, as 2020 is now almost over.
@geordieal
@geordieal 3 жыл бұрын
Wait,what, there’s a pandemic? And this isn’t still 2019? I thought it was all a bad dream and someone called JR got shot!
@MyMarsham
@MyMarsham 3 жыл бұрын
202, the year that- yeah, let’s just never mention it again.
@hanghuhn
@hanghuhn 3 жыл бұрын
There was a time before the pandemic?!
@DuesseldorferJung1
@DuesseldorferJung1 3 жыл бұрын
The Düsseldorf Skytrains also do not have a driver (no sure about the ones in other cities), which makes the feeling of it even more futuristic. For the biggest part of my life I lived very closely to the Düsseldorf Airport. As kids we used to go there just to ride the Skytrain from start to end and back or to wander around the Airport shopping mall. Thanks for the nice video and the little trip to my childhood :)
@vespill708
@vespill708 2 жыл бұрын
The trains in Vancouver are also called SkyTrain (driverless as well)! It was surprising to see the signs for it in the beginning of the video, confused me for a second lol
@alexanderkupke920
@alexanderkupke920 2 жыл бұрын
The more or less twin one in Dortmund to my knowledge does not have a driver as well. Which if we stay honest here, really only works with a train going above the traffic and no one violating a red light may be crossing.
@temper44
@temper44 2 жыл бұрын
But if they had a driver, would they be called a driver or a pilot?
@kozmaz87
@kozmaz87 Жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure the reason is that with screen doors and it being a skytrain... if you get hit by it you are very lost or are possibly a drunk bird. :D The possible driver-preventable accidents are almost 0 with these things :D
@ashakydd1
@ashakydd1 Ай бұрын
Driverless trains on public transit is overrated. Here in Vancouver, our Sky Train system is driverless which is a problem as, whenever it snows or there are system issues, they have to get a technician in every train to drive them which makes the whole system much slower. It is a huge pain in the ass.
@TeaDrivenDev
@TeaDrivenDev 3 жыл бұрын
Took me a moment to realize I've actually been on that when I flew from Düsseldorf a year and a half ago. Unrelated fun side fact: I read an East German sci-fi novel where the name of the inventor of the first time machine was Tim E. Traveller.
@johncassels3475
@johncassels3475 3 жыл бұрын
"But hang on ... " The best puns are the cheap shots that come in from the side almost not noticed ...
@miroslavmilan
@miroslavmilan 3 жыл бұрын
Or in my case, completely unnoticed. Which begs the question, if a put goes unnoticed, is it still a pun? 🤨
@richardlloyd2589
@richardlloyd2589 3 жыл бұрын
There must be at least 1 groan.
@Le0nnh
@Le0nnh 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I scrolled down just to catch that one lol. This one was punfest for sure.
@lewisfilby2394
@lewisfilby2394 3 жыл бұрын
not only does Tim speak perfect French but he always makes sure his accent is on point for any foreign place names or words. Probably the only British person I've ever heard who can say Düsseldorf even nearly correctly. Edit: I just reached the Michelin and Renault part and totally proved my own point
@juststeve5542
@juststeve5542 3 жыл бұрын
Time to send him East and test him properly... I suggest Wrocław and Łódź in Poland, and Székesfehérvár or Gyöngyös in Hungary. (Tempted to suggest Pécs in Hungary too, as I know a mispronunciation of that is a rude word!) Alas I can't think of any interesting rail based transport in any of those locations, bar the regular Central/Eastern European trams which sneak up on you from the wrong side and try to kill you! (*shakes English RHD fist*) (Budapest does decorate up some trams for Christmas).
@offwithhishead2556
@offwithhishead2556 3 жыл бұрын
You mean its not "duffselldorv"?
@FeoragForsyth
@FeoragForsyth 3 жыл бұрын
He carefully didn’t attempt Milngavie, where the railplane was…
@harbl99
@harbl99 3 жыл бұрын
I would suggest Bielefeld. But we're only talking about places that actually exist.
@Matticitt
@Matticitt 3 жыл бұрын
@@juststeve5542 well, Łódź is currently building a train mini-metro by digging a 2km long tunnel underneath city centre which will join 2 separate train lines and also allow future Berlin-Warsaw HSR to go through. Don't know if that passes for interesting enough though. There's also a 90-year-old tram-only bridge nearby.
@Mediaevalist
@Mediaevalist 3 жыл бұрын
It looks really futuristic, but when I first used this train in Düsseldorf, I was shocked by how loud it rumbled along. I sort of imagined it to glide like a maglev train, but nope: Wheels in a steel casing, plain and simple...
@hurricanefury439
@hurricanefury439 10 ай бұрын
probably quieter than a bus at least
@MrKelsomatic
@MrKelsomatic 3 жыл бұрын
“Düsseldorf: Gateway to the Dangletrains” That really got me 😂
@millomweb
@millomweb 3 жыл бұрын
Only in German would you get a word like 'dangletrains' !
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 3 жыл бұрын
BUT MAIN STREET IS STILL ALL CRACKED AND BROKEN!
@bovine365
@bovine365 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry Geoff, the Germans have spoken
@JamesMellon-AviaColour
@JamesMellon-AviaColour 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry Geoff the möb has spoken
@CruiseTT
@CruiseTT 3 жыл бұрын
Monorail Monorail Monorail
@maltipoomadness8807
@maltipoomadness8807 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no Geoff, what have you started 😅
@testcardsandmore1231
@testcardsandmore1231 3 жыл бұрын
@@CruiseTT Mono! D'oh!
@davidhanson4909
@davidhanson4909 3 жыл бұрын
"The Dusseldorf Dangletrain" really sound like something that would cost extra. And possibly get you arrested and/or deported.
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 3 жыл бұрын
Come visit & see squished & bloody pigeons & other birds rain down on the windshield of the monorail you are riding in.....
@Beetless
@Beetless 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidhollenshead4892 no noob
@tijmen131
@tijmen131 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidhollenshead4892 yeah that doesn't happen but ok. You're basically the 21st century variant of the dairy farmers who blamed the steam trains for making their milk sour
@obiwankenobi661
@obiwankenobi661 2 жыл бұрын
i know a place in mexico where its all that.
@feluno
@feluno Жыл бұрын
I just now remembered that Germany once had another suspended type of train - the aerobus of Mannheim. Built in 1975 and operated until 1976, the aerobus was constructed for the horticultural show of 1975 in Mannheim. It operated on a 2.8 km long double-track line hanging above the streets of Mannheim (maybe a bit comparable to the street-sections of Wuppertal Schwebebahn). In this original layout the "rails" were actually steel cables, however in a later refit as a test track, the cables were replaced with aluminium rails, thus making it a proper railway. The concept never catched on and the only other aerobus open to the public was one in a skiing area near Toronto. I think it's a fairly interesting bit of transit history, and yes - we Germans like our suspended railways 😉 (even though the aerobus is originally a Swiss invention)
@kwong6884
@kwong6884 Жыл бұрын
I lived in Chiba city, Japan for 2 years and it had one of the longest monorail in the world. It was actually fantastic getting around to different districts
@rjds1800
@rjds1800 3 жыл бұрын
The angle of dangle suddenly takes on a whole new meaning...
@magichands135
@magichands135 3 жыл бұрын
Reality can be stiff sometimes
@schallundrauch2378
@schallundrauch2378 3 жыл бұрын
Don't take it too hard.
@jacquesmertens3369
@jacquesmertens3369 3 жыл бұрын
The suspense nearly killed me.
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 3 жыл бұрын
Well, don't leave me hanging!
@cvdeiana
@cvdeiana 3 жыл бұрын
When someone tries way to hard to be funny in the comments section
@theorae9108
@theorae9108 3 жыл бұрын
@@cvdeiana When someone is way too fun at parties
@SiisKolkytEuroo
@SiisKolkytEuroo 2 жыл бұрын
@@theorae9108 what kind of a lame ass insult is that? Who even goes to parties
@theorae9108
@theorae9108 2 жыл бұрын
@@SiisKolkytEuroo When you're in New Zealand, you're actually legally allowed to meet people unmasked. Life's good.
@van03de
@van03de 2 жыл бұрын
There are two suspended monorails in Japan as well: Shonan Monorail between Enoshima and Ōfuna and Chiba Urban Rail. Once I took Shonan Monorail on the way back from Enoshima beach to Tokyo. It was a great ride.
@PixelShade
@PixelShade Жыл бұрын
honestly, just looking at it seems like a logical solution. Especially in Sweden where our tracks always get covered in snow, and the railway switches freezes due to the never ending cycle of warm/cold temperature shifting. Sure, I bet it is quite expensive to install, but once it is done. It must be fairly hassle-free.
@HeyJinx
@HeyJinx Жыл бұрын
It isn't. Monorails are infamous for how much maintenance they need.
@PixelShade
@PixelShade Жыл бұрын
@@HeyJinx Yeah I read up on it later. Such a shame :)
@althejazzman
@althejazzman 3 жыл бұрын
"dangletrain" legitimately sounds like a German word to my English ears.
@nikk-named
@nikk-named 2 жыл бұрын
It's such a German way to create a word too... Like, same
@4strength4stamleatherbeltl78
@4strength4stamleatherbeltl78 2 жыл бұрын
Der dängeltrain
@zafranorbian757
@zafranorbian757 2 жыл бұрын
The german word is Hochbahn or short H-Bahn though. it is sometimes also refered to as Schwebebahn.
@duke7803
@duke7803 2 жыл бұрын
So the literal translation would be hightrain or hovertrain.
@zafranorbian757
@zafranorbian757 2 жыл бұрын
@@duke7803 Yes, because it is high up in the air or from below looks like it hovers aboth the ground.
@solracer66
@solracer66 3 жыл бұрын
Tim should have left the "e" on in "Time Traveller" in the credits since that's basically what he is doing here. :D
@deldarel
@deldarel 2 жыл бұрын
3:54 Rubber wheels on laminated wood? That's not a monorail, that's an office chair!
@klausmoritzpeitzsch690
@klausmoritzpeitzsch690 3 жыл бұрын
Having studied in Dortmund the sky train "H-Bahn" connects the southern campus with the northern campus and was a daily commute for me. Glad, that you enjoyed riding it so much taht you decided to share it on YT!
@FakeUSB22445
@FakeUSB22445 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who used Düsseldorf Airport quite often I never thought about the Skytrain being special. Thanks for teaching me something about my hometown :)
@JustJustSid
@JustJustSid 3 жыл бұрын
I used to live in Dortmund and flew quite frequently out of Düsseldorf. I also never once thought twice about the skytrain, it was just a normal thing. But then again, I also grew up riding the one at the Dortmund University for fun.
@timothydrew993
@timothydrew993 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it is anything really special, other than being the best way to get from A to B. I do appreciate it, though.
@tf8896
@tf8896 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, there is one more suspended monorail line in Ueno Zoo, Tokyo. It doesn’t use the SAFEGE, but its own system which looks like the one in Wuppertal. (Rubber tyres instead of the metal wheels, and smaller wheels on the side. No cover). Sadly, it’s service is suspended since 2019.
@wteff8586
@wteff8586 Жыл бұрын
Answering this two year old comment to point out that if it were running it would still technically be a suspended service
@agentepolaris4914
@agentepolaris4914 7 ай бұрын
​@@wteff8586Lol
@shame2189
@shame2189 Жыл бұрын
“Why not” is possibly the best argument for building a dangle train I have ever heard
@TheStiepen
@TheStiepen 2 жыл бұрын
Given how few actually exist, it's kind of mind boggling to think I have been in three different suspended monorails already (Düsseldorf, Dortmund and Wuppertal)
@tordroesstad5894
@tordroesstad5894 3 жыл бұрын
I would also like to add that a monorail takes up less space in the air than normal rails, therefore making the areas underneath “cleaner” with less “pollution” from above
@jalchi8367
@jalchi8367 3 жыл бұрын
yes in Wuppertal the Monorail goes above a river
@russcattell955i
@russcattell955i 3 жыл бұрын
@@jalchi8367 Certainly, rivers, parkland, fields, roads, railways and car parking.
@alexanderkupke920
@alexanderkupke920 2 жыл бұрын
That's the thing why the train in Wuppertal works and still busses are not sen as an alternative. It is independent from the traffic on the street and with the Wupper in the middle of the valley (and yes, it is a rather steep valley) and the city being more long than wide along the Wupper, it was the place available for a train. And in the video you can easily see, where the masts for the rail sit, there is in parts of the route really not much space available for anything else. A "track on stilts" as other people mover systems use would mostly have required two masts and made the street below a lot darker.
@garage6346
@garage6346 3 жыл бұрын
I knew it couldn't have been Germany the moment you said "efficient" :D
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for my appointment.
@derauditor5748
@derauditor5748 3 жыл бұрын
we do it "proper"... which means complicated and expensive
@elmariachi5133
@elmariachi5133 3 жыл бұрын
@@derauditor5748 Yet disfunctional.
@Keckegenkai
@Keckegenkai 3 жыл бұрын
its easier to already build upon a proven concept than come up with something completely new that instantely just works. The elevated train in Wuppertal works and yes its efficient given that nothing really changed on the concept of the Wuppertal line. Germany isnt just cars
@jansix4287
@jansix4287 3 жыл бұрын
@@elmariachi5133 How can it be dysfunctional, when it is in active use?
@ChrisSaddlerSam
@ChrisSaddlerSam 2 жыл бұрын
I just can't stop watching this video, everytime it appears among the "suggestions" from youtube!!! And I really want to visit this place! Cheers Tim... and keep up with the good work ;) THANX
@harshbutfair8993
@harshbutfair8993 2 жыл бұрын
Good work Tim, I subscribed some time ago, but find myself popping in more and often lately to view your videos, never disappointed and always interesting and easy viewing.
@K-o-R
@K-o-R 3 жыл бұрын
Conventional trains (and some monorails, particularly the _really_ fast ones) do lean into the corners ("cant" or "superelevation", or even actual tilting mechanisms) but I guess it's handy to have physics take care of it for you rather than having to build banked tracks.
@x--.
@x--. 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Though I suppose they must used banked turns or well-timed hydraulics (which may be what your jargon alludes to, sorry). So yeah, having 'physics' do the work for you must be a nice advantage.
@samuelbhend2521
@samuelbhend2521 2 жыл бұрын
The "Cisalpino" which was a tilting highspeed train between Italy and Switzerland was very unreliable and everyone hated it. The Italian Cisalpino just regularely broke down in the middle of nowhere and were never really fixed into reliable things... The Swiss Cisalpino's worked always, but were hated because the tilting mechanism did work also in slow driving curves which there are plenty of, and they are all banked because all regular trains used this route too. People got all sick on those things, they were horrible to ride. Now with the new Tunnels trough the Simplon and the Lötschberg, the track is build for highspeed trains, which means tilting mechanisms are no longer needed. I'm not up to date if there are still Cisalpino's existing or if the tilting mechanism somehow got fixed and upgraded, but I remember many People avoiding to travel with the Cisalpino's because the Swiss ones made you sick and the italian ones didn't work....
@lightningbot85
@lightningbot85 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelbhend2521 you do realize that most modern high speed trains tilt nowadays? Look up the pendolino system, it’s so good that you won’t even notice the train tilting or turning!
@samuelbhend2521
@samuelbhend2521 Жыл бұрын
@@lightningbot85 I'm not up to date on that, cause I've stopped travelling alltogether years ago. I think the big difference between the 90's Cisalpino and the modern day Highspeed trains is, that the Cisalpino ran on shared 90years oldTracks together with Freight and regional trains, whilst modern Highspeed train systems run on their own Highspeed-only tracks.
@YetAnotherGeorgeth
@YetAnotherGeorgeth 3 жыл бұрын
I built suspended monorails in Dortmund, Wuppertal and Düsseldorf and boy did that put them on the map!
3 жыл бұрын
North Haverbrook? WOW
@FindecanorNotGmail
@FindecanorNotGmail 3 жыл бұрын
May the Force be with you
@nikkion2140
@nikkion2140 3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me if sky train is feasible to cross the river banks?
@NikolausUndRupprecht
@NikolausUndRupprecht 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikkion2140, why shouldn’t it? The older Wuppertal suspended railway runs for most of its length over the Wupper river.
@frida507
@frida507 2 жыл бұрын
Could you make one for us in Stockholm too? Seems fun to ride.. Like an amusement park sort of...
@chevyfan029
@chevyfan029 3 жыл бұрын
Huh, I grew up in Memphis and never thought the Mud Island monorail was anything special. Cool video, thanks for sharing
@CNJGeep
@CNJGeep 2 жыл бұрын
The Monorail Song in accordion is a real standout
@jeanmarco40
@jeanmarco40 3 жыл бұрын
The suspended monorail from Dortmund is located at TU Dortmund university, where I am working! Three interesting facts: 1) From Düsseldorf Airport, you can enter the train "S1" which drives directly to the station "Dortmund University", from which you can directly enter the "H-Bahn" (which is the name of the Dortmund monorail). This may also be a good addition for your advertisement :D 2) Currently, there are plans to even expand the Dortmund monorail to a newly built city district. 3) The Dortmund monorail connects two parts of the university which are mainly separated by a forest, so it is used regularly by every student
@c7r8
@c7r8 3 жыл бұрын
and not to forget: the "H-Bahn" in Dortmund came first by a couple of decades, running since 1984. IIRC the "sky train" - formerly known as "people mover" - is basically the same product.
@Abisanth11
@Abisanth11 3 жыл бұрын
0:16 Yeah, Tim is obviously trying to hide the fact that he’s a time traveller 😂
@TomAlctel
@TomAlctel 3 жыл бұрын
0:38 proves this
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 3 жыл бұрын
And yet Tim doesn't use it for admirable purposes like killing Hitler, Stalin, Franco, Mussolini, Hirohito, or Trump before they can hurt others...
@ErnestoM2002
@ErnestoM2002 Жыл бұрын
Wuppertal is a hilly city, which made it extremely difficult to build a conventional metro. That is why a suspension railway system was first built there. The main advantage today is that it can be built over existing infrastructure and property.
@DIckHuuhn
@DIckHuuhn 3 жыл бұрын
By the way, if you want to see the "Skytrain" you should plan it within the next 10 years or so. The city is currently extending its regular metro system ("Stadtbahn") all the way to the airport. In 2024 the train to the Airport proper (lines "U81" and "U82", connecting the airport to Düsseldorf and Neuss) will be finished, and then construction on the subterranean train continuing to the Airport railway station (and maybe even further to the nearby town of Ratingen) will start. The Skytrain would then be redundant and probably discontinued, even though there has not been made a definite decision on that. By the way, the "Stadtbahn Rhein-Ruhr" would make for a nice video on its own. It was actually planned way back in the 1970s to connect all the cities within the Ruhr valley via Metro from Düsseldorf all the way to Dortmund. The cities are still working on the project, and nowadays there is almost a connection all the way through. Note that you wouldn't use the Stadtbahn to travel all the way from Düsseldorf to Dortmund, as Stadtbahn is meant as a high-volume trunk line for public transport within the cities. For medium distance travel, e.g. commuting between cities, "S-Bahn" and Regional Express exist, which both are regular train networks spanning the same area.
@Bisonrulz16
@Bisonrulz16 Жыл бұрын
I was gonna say, even from as far away as Köln public transport makes the use of the SkyTrain completely redundant because there's an S-Bahn station right under the terminal where the S11 curves around away from the main airport station. Literally the only time I've ever had to use the SkyTrain in tens of trips through Düsseldorf is when the S-Bahn lines were affected by train driver strikes and I had to get to the main Flughafen station. As cool as it is, it's something so many can completely avoid by this point.
@danielrose1392
@danielrose1392 Жыл бұрын
Are you sure they discontinue it? The skytrain also serves the parking lots. Original plans where, one the outer parking lots are also converted to multi level garages, to put in a fifth station. You can see the provisions already at 2:43 where the line splits to make space for a station.
@svr5423
@svr5423 Жыл бұрын
Düsseldorf airport already has a train connection (in contrast to Berlin for example). Why are they extending the U-Bahn? They could also just use trains with more carriages. The standard train has two carriages, one for 1st and one for 2nd class. The 2nd class is really overflowing because almost nobody buys 1st class tickets for just one station.
@DIckHuuhn
@DIckHuuhn Жыл бұрын
@@danielrose1392 Actually I am not sure anymore where I read about this. Unfortunately, the official web pages of the city of Düsseldorf for the U81/U82 project are currently sparse on details. But I said one year ago that the decision is not yet final, maybe it was just a politician in the newspaper thinking aloud. I have found a recent article that the airport reduced skytrain coverage during Corona times and replaced it with Bus service. So the operating cost seem to be non-trivial. Now considering that most of the people go from train station to terminal, when there is a redundant Stadtbahn line (with better service level) put in, it will pretty much obsolete the sky train, especially considering that Buses can provide service to more buildings on the airport campus, and therefore provide better service.
@DIckHuuhn
@DIckHuuhn Жыл бұрын
@@svr5423 The Stadtbahn light metro system is the main trunk of public transport in Düsseldorf, meant to transport a high volume of people to everywhere within the city. Connecting the airport is not the principal reason for its existence, even though most people trying to get to the airport from within Düsseldorf will probably in many cases use the Stadtbahn, as not everyone is living near the train (e.g. S-Bahn) corridor. On the same line (at least the planned scenario of the maximal running length of the line, which is not yet decided on), there are several more high-value stops, for example the Rheinparkcenter (Large shopping mall in Neuss), Merkur Spielarena (Large Stadium in Düsseldorf), or Ratingen-West (largest residential center of Ratingen). All of those connections will enable more people to use the Stadtbahn system and reduce car traffic. See also that the new Stadtbahn line will introduce a new east-west connection (Neuss to Ratingen) where the railway train lines in Düsseldorf mostly run from north to south. IIRC, the new line will also be the first Stadtbahn line that does not have a stop in the Düsseldorf old town (Heinrich-Heine-Allee). If you live in Ratingen and want to go to Neuss (or Krefeld) by public transport, this will probably cut down transit times compared to S-Bahn. So the Stadtbahn system may supplement and enhance the coverage by train railway. If you are coming from outside of Düsseldorf and want to take a flight, you will probably have a direct stop at the Flughafen on your ICE/IC or regional train line. If for some reason your train only stops at the main station (which only applies for connections like RE4 from Wuppertal or Hamm), you will still use one of the train lines, e.g. S-Bahn to take the last leg to the airport. The S-Bahn takes something like 10 minutes to the airport while taking the Stadtbahn would probably cost you approximately 30 minutes.
@m3grim
@m3grim 3 жыл бұрын
3:40 Monorail ❌ Underbus ⭕
@webchimp
@webchimp 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to go for Danglebüs
@stano4601
@stano4601 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! Somewhere I've actually been to and something I've actually been on (in 2019), the only time I have ever been anywhere not on this rock we call the UK. Loved Dusseldorf and had no idea about the 'Sky Train' till I got on it. Great experience in a city full of great experiences. Would love to go back sometime. Global pandemics aside. Good video, I was still hyper ventilating after my first flight to be in any condition to film it. So thank you sir for stirring the memories again!
@millomweb
@millomweb 3 жыл бұрын
My first flight of a commercial nature was much less........ IOM-Liverpool !
@stanmiczka
@stanmiczka 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, fellow Stan ;)
@Design-M
@Design-M Жыл бұрын
Its just awesome how much details you pack into a single video. Sounds entertaining but I imagine the research to do is quite a heavy lifting.
@Bestrian
@Bestrian Жыл бұрын
Really love your videos. Watched a few of them yesterday and it made my evening. Keep it going :)
@brotlowskyrgseg1018
@brotlowskyrgseg1018 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most positive (relatively speaking) video about monorails I have ever seen.
@lewisfilby2394
@lewisfilby2394 3 жыл бұрын
I made all my decisions about monorails back in the 90s from The Simpsons.
@TheGoukaruma
@TheGoukaruma 3 жыл бұрын
"it's not economical" vs "yeah, but it looks cool"
@brotlowskyrgseg1018
@brotlowskyrgseg1018 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGoukaruma Well, it can be economical in places where building a light rail or subway system isn't practical. That's certainly the case in Wuppertal. It's just a rather niche application. And it does indeed look really cool.
@brotlowskyrgseg1018
@brotlowskyrgseg1018 3 жыл бұрын
@@lewisfilby2394 I have also formed all my opinions about monorails on the basis of that Simpsons episode, but I only watched it till the part where they sing that catchy song. What's it called? Monorail! That episode is about how monorails are actually great, right... right?!
@TheGoukaruma
@TheGoukaruma 3 жыл бұрын
​@@brotlowskyrgseg1018 I don't disagree. For me personally "it looks cool" is enough. Bean counters have no value for things you can't measure like "the city is getting cooler". Tourists certainly will remember that.
@Prypyatify
@Prypyatify 3 жыл бұрын
1:39 using the instrumental from the Monorail song in the Simpsons has made my day
@underwaterlaser1687
@underwaterlaser1687 3 жыл бұрын
Tim probably played it himself as he is an avid pianist.
@kawaiikittylee
@kawaiikittylee 2 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel and I love it! Thanks for all the effort that you put into each video :)
@KMeeks
@KMeeks 10 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for! Well done work!
@GenialHarryGrout
@GenialHarryGrout 3 жыл бұрын
I can imagine the car insurance accident claim form Q) Reason for claim? A) A train fell from the sky on to my car
@FrietjeOorlog
@FrietjeOorlog 3 жыл бұрын
If it fell from the ground I would be amazed.
@gerardmorvan2232
@gerardmorvan2232 3 жыл бұрын
Could be worse : It could have been an elephant ;)
@1zaj34
@1zaj34 3 жыл бұрын
@@gerardmorvan2232 Could be even worse: An Elephant jumping from a suspended train. "Tuffis Wuppersprung"¹, anyone? ¹ de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuffi
@brotlowskyrgseg1018
@brotlowskyrgseg1018 3 жыл бұрын
@@1zaj34 "So what exactly caused the damage to your boat?" "An elephant fell from the sky." "Sir, you do understand that insurance fraud is a crime?"
@gerardmorvan2232
@gerardmorvan2232 3 жыл бұрын
@@1zaj34 That's the one I was thinking of.
@_MacGuffin_
@_MacGuffin_ 3 жыл бұрын
Next Video: The Transrapid....or what is left of it and its test track in Lathen... I rode that two times as a kid before the massive accident. Now it's running in Shanghai only.
@KindDesWahnsinns
@KindDesWahnsinns 2 жыл бұрын
The Transrapid was not a suspended monorail, but a monorail. I had the chance to ride it a few month prior to the fatal evident. A friend of mine survived the ride as their bus to Lathen was stuck in traffic..
@danaitch4095
@danaitch4095 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet, a new release from TT to view after a long day in the yard. Always enjoyable.
@gallifrog6144
@gallifrog6144 3 жыл бұрын
I used to fly into Dusseldorf every summer as a kid and loved the sky train, it was so exciting to go on and so utterly different to anything else, plus the automated voice was great fun to mimic- "Parkhaus P4 und P4" "Terminal A... B"
@tcjdv
@tcjdv 3 жыл бұрын
I got all misty-eyed out of sheer joy when I heard the first notes of that beautiful rendition of the The Monorail Song. 11/10
@tcjdv
@tcjdv 3 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD, THE FRENCH VERSION.
@knubbelidoo
@knubbelidoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@tcjdv the piano version took a while to register. But then the French one hit home immediately. Glorious.
@FrauWNiemand
@FrauWNiemand 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm German and didn't even know that there were four of that. Awesome.
@kpbarbee
@kpbarbee 2 жыл бұрын
That did clear it all up! Thank you very much. Funny, delightful, and informative!
@adsta5
@adsta5 2 жыл бұрын
I totally love your content, style and honour. "gateway to dangle trains" 😂 you've also managed to get several things onto my bucket list. And... I think the world needs more dangle trains, more, I tell you, more!
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 3 жыл бұрын
The suspended railway is a unique system that simply stands out, an ambitious out of the box idea that is too powerful for cities to handle so they turn to building trams instead. Shame there aren't more of them. Goa was so close to being the next place to have one too... On top of the three built by Mitsubishi, a fourth suspended monorail was built (though more similar to the Schwebebahn although it has rubber tires; in other words the designers had the idea of using rubber tires before the SAFEGE group thought of it) even before those in 1957 at the Ueno Zoo by the Tokyo Metropolitan Government who operated the zoo. It was not only the first monorail in Japan, but also the first zoo monorail in the world. It was a trial system for a future city plan that would ease traffic congestion. They used off the shelf parts to cut costs. Unfortunately the monorail has been suspended (ba-dum-tss) since October 2019 because replacing the aging fleet is just too costly. And while the one in Nagoya is no longer in operation, at least a train and a station of it is preserved on the botanical garden side of Higashiyama park.
@leongkinwai9709
@leongkinwai9709 3 жыл бұрын
Ah shame: I remember seeing them whiz by when I was in Tokyo, beautiful stuff
@leDespicable
@leDespicable 3 жыл бұрын
Well, can't blame the cities. Most of the time, monorails would simply be too expensive compared to trams. Wuppertal is pretty much the only place in the world where the system is an integral part of a city's public transportation network. And only because it's one of the few places where it actually made sense to build one.
@Mister__Jey
@Mister__Jey 3 жыл бұрын
@@leDespicable never heard of Chicago?
@iand3lond
@iand3lond 3 жыл бұрын
@@leDespicable Ooh, it's not for most cities, it's more of a Shelbyville idea...
@NozomuYume
@NozomuYume 3 жыл бұрын
@@leDespicable The Chiba city suspended monorail is the centerpiece of Chiba's public transport system, and that's a city of a million people. It's their only dedicated local rail transit (though other parts of the city use the regional JR and Keisei train networks for local travel) Also the Shonan suspended monorail, while only a single line as part of a larger network, does serve as an important route in its area, and is most definitely integral at least to the area that it serves. It's real transit, not just for travelers/tourists. It was used for this line because of the extremely narrow footprint it had to fit into where there was no room for a traditional rail right of way, and not enough money to dig a subway.
@speedbird643
@speedbird643 3 жыл бұрын
I recall the Dusseldorf Dangletrain was closed for around 2 years due to technical issues in the 2000s - I flew in and had to use a bus to get to the station which was very disappointing; and rumours at the time hinted it might never reopen. Luckily unfounded and I eventually got the chance to ride it a few years later!
@gajustempus
@gajustempus 3 жыл бұрын
please be smart and use the ü. The dots over the u really change the meaning kinda radical, for Dussel meaning "moron" :) and yeah, the whole automatic-system was giving Siemens trouble. That's why they had to pay some hefty fines to the airport.
@gajustempus
@gajustempus 3 жыл бұрын
@⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ true or, simply press and HOLD the ALT-Key and then type, on the numpad, 129, then release the ALT-key as long as the application uses the standard ASCII-table, it'll work. Otherwise, yeah, the ue is also a good way to tell the characters apart. but simply forgetting about the dots over the u and writing a COMPLETELY different character will - best case - insult the people of said town, or - worst case - let you end up in a TOTALLY different city.
@speedbird643
@speedbird643 3 жыл бұрын
@@gajustempus My apologies - I didn't know the shortcut and my UK keyboard doesn't have any indication of how to get the 'ü'. I certainly wouldn't want to offend the people of Düsseldorf (which is a great city).
@Chironex_Fleckeri
@Chironex_Fleckeri 3 жыл бұрын
Dusseldorf. Munchen. Bërlin. Dreßden
@gajustempus
@gajustempus 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chironex_Fleckeri ... Take Münster or Munster for example. Both cities exist. And both are about 200 kilometers apart, located in different states. One has a military base in it, one a university.
@h.p.oliver8666
@h.p.oliver8666 2 жыл бұрын
I've just discovered another rare KZbin treasure: The Tim Traveller. Enjoying your work . . . and your sense of humor. Thanks!
@jurristi
@jurristi 3 жыл бұрын
I have to thank the algorithm for this lovely recommendation and Tim for the captivating production. Who knew this was just the thing I needed on a Sunday morning. A cup of coffee and a video about German monorails.
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 3 жыл бұрын
I've been inspired to start planning to build our own suspended monorail to add to those numbers with a special separate line that will connect my bedroom to the other side of the palace at the McDonald's
@sm3675
@sm3675 3 жыл бұрын
We need your expertise in Toronto 😫. You created my fave food, the Burger. I love you.
@jwenting
@jwenting 3 жыл бұрын
tip: have it go over the crocodile pit and have a hatch in the bottom. Disgraced henchmen get invited over, and dropped through the hatch for your viewing pleasure.
@PineappleSkip
@PineappleSkip 3 жыл бұрын
So, the second in the sneakily unannounced series 'ALL THE MONORAILS'? I'm hanging out to see that.
@AaronOfMpls
@AaronOfMpls 2 жыл бұрын
He'll take his time to get it out though, leave us in suspense.
@4ndr_s
@4ndr_s 3 жыл бұрын
Before Corona (therefore, when I went to the uni) I used the one in Dortmund quite frequently, it's always a delight to use. And it's so cool that they are actually planning to expand it! One extension to a new area for technology companies, and other one to the tram/subway system. Like every public infrastructure project in Germany it will take forever, but I think it will get done.. eventually
@abrahamrockers6265
@abrahamrockers6265 Жыл бұрын
Dortmund
@lewiscox4712
@lewiscox4712 Жыл бұрын
Dear Tim, You are , my favourite youtuber. Thank you for such entertaining, educational ( yuk) and vistacially wonderful vignettes of fun ✌😁👍
@lmlmd2714
@lmlmd2714 3 жыл бұрын
These could be a great alternative to teleferico systems when you need a bit more capacity. Very small footprint, and being suspended, handing hilly terrain should be much easier than with a tram/light rail or even a metro (having to build stations at different depths is non-trivial).
@Zeppflyer
@Zeppflyer 3 жыл бұрын
Coming from Pittsburgh, one of the few cities with any remaining wooden streets, I heartily approve of the wooden-railed French system.
@GilmerJohn
@GilmerJohn 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Pittsburgh (the 'h' means Pittsburgh, PA, USA of course.) I remember wood paving in the driveway of a high school but don't recall any public roads so paved.
@Zeppflyer
@Zeppflyer 3 жыл бұрын
@@GilmerJohn Only one left, alas. I'd thought that there were a few yet. brooklineconnection.com/history/Facts/Roslyn.html
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 2 жыл бұрын
In the UK, where wood tends to rot rapidly in our damp climate, I'm not so keen on using it for rails. It was used by the Victorians for rails and viaducts but replaced by steel pretty quickly. Incidentally the Paris Metro decided its rubber-tyred trains weren't a great idea and reverted to conventional steel wheels for later lines.
@Wig4
@Wig4 2 жыл бұрын
@@iankemp1131 That was actually .... a commercial killer-battle between price offers from main manufacturers (Rubber tired patent : Michelin-Renault. Steel rail: any other) However, Montreal an Mexico bought in the "Renault system". Many many more followed, and in Japan it's quite popular.
@SirNarax
@SirNarax Жыл бұрын
I am right outside the Pittsburgh Metropolitan area and within Greater Pittsburgh in the Northern Panhandle of Wv. Lovely city would love to live up there but cost is a little bit of a barrier otherwise I would already be there.
@RAILEXCELLENCE2011
@RAILEXCELLENCE2011 6 ай бұрын
Hi, on 2 November 2023 I went with the ICE train from Bruxelles MIDI to Düsseldorf HBF and then went with the S Bahn to Düsseldorf ✈️. This has been on my bucket list since I discovered this video.
@LisaMiza
@LisaMiza Жыл бұрын
Had a vacation in the Netherlands not long ago and decided I wanted to go to to Wuppertal on the way home. As they do for me, plans changed, and i didn't have time to go to Wuppertal. Somehow i forgot that the airport had dangeltrains too, so I was pleasantly surprised to go on a great dangler!
@ld5023
@ld5023 3 жыл бұрын
600 subs in 2019...crazy how fast you grew your subscriber base. Well deserved, of course!
@vocassen
@vocassen 3 жыл бұрын
what? I never realized he had more than 5k suddenly wow! Good job!
@MrGreatplum
@MrGreatplum 3 жыл бұрын
@@vocassen Tim and Jago Hazzard have excellent channels that ballooned from nothing - well deserved too!
@solracer66
@solracer66 3 жыл бұрын
Some of us have been here a long time, there were less than 1000 when I subscribed...
@MrGreatplum
@MrGreatplum 3 жыл бұрын
@@solracer66 - I was a late joiner - around 25,000 I think
@sausage_lord
@sausage_lord 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid Tim. Love a dangletrain. When I lived in Japan, I lived near Ōfuna, which was the terminus of the Shonan dangletrain. One of my favourite ways to head to the Pacific coast.
@anandakang
@anandakang Жыл бұрын
I live a few kilometres away from Chiba city, where their city monorail is located. I've only had the chance to ride it once before, but after watching this video it's made me want to find time to travel out to Chiba one weekend and spend the day riding the monorail just for the sake of appreciating its uniqueness, rarity, and fun. Thank you!
@Crackalacking_Z
@Crackalacking_Z 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video, I realized while watching that I've actually been on three of them in Germany and one in Japan! It's really a fun way of transportation, because of the bird's eye view and the sense of gliding through midair (its motion is way more stable than flying).
@Garron88
@Garron88 3 жыл бұрын
I've been to Dortmund and Dusseldorf and not noticed these. I need to start looking up more.
@truckerallikatuk
@truckerallikatuk 3 жыл бұрын
In any older town or city, up is always the direction to look. Many centres of old cities are full of modern shop fronts, but look up and you will see the remaining architecture of the original buildings. It can be breathtaking at times.
@HestiasNemesis
@HestiasNemesis 3 жыл бұрын
The one in Dortmund is quite easy to miss honestly, it's transport area is rather small compared to the size of the city. You'll find it at the University if you ever visit again ^^
@swanpride
@swanpride 3 жыл бұрын
Those aren't exactly in the centre of the city. The one in Dortmund is on the campus, it's main purpose is to transport students from one side to the other. The one in Düsseldorf is at the airport, so that passengers can transit from long-time parking to the actual airport with all their luggage.
@omma911
@omma911 2 жыл бұрын
The one in Dortmund basically only connects Ali's Falafel Paradise with campus north and south.
@rikulappi9664
@rikulappi9664 3 жыл бұрын
Fun and informative. I have to visit Düsseldorf again, it`s been over 25 years since the last time! Thanks.
@mike-dn5fu
@mike-dn5fu 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up in Düsseldorf and Dortmund (and also near Wuppertal) I always took those things for granted
@TuxLetsPlay
@TuxLetsPlay 2 жыл бұрын
I actually rode the skytrain at the airport on a regular basis when I was working near the airport from 2016 and 2019, the skytrain is pretty cool. Also fully automated. The dangling does get a little bit scary whenever there's a storm tho. That's the biggest drawback. Thanks for the video, I learned some things I didn't know :D
@GeekmanCA
@GeekmanCA 3 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally, "SkyTrain" is also the name of Metro Vancouver's elevated light rail system. It's not suspended, and some of it runs underground like a proper subway (sorry... ahem... "metro"), but most of it is elevated. The first line was built for Expo '86, but since then it's been massively expanded - it has a really interesting history. If you ever deigned to both cross the pond and visit Vancouver...
@FilmscoreMetaler
@FilmscoreMetaler 3 жыл бұрын
Monorail! Monorail! Monorail!
@Brrunoc1
@Brrunoc1 2 жыл бұрын
One of the original French Dangle trains is now a Summer house in my Great Uncle's garden in Darvoy, Loiret. Will send link to photos I took a couple of years ago.
@GothCookie
@GothCookie Жыл бұрын
I really loved riding the Dusseldorf sky train! The ticket was included in our parking ticket at the airport and it was such a wonderful way to get to the check-in hall!
@d22matt
@d22matt 3 жыл бұрын
"Dangletrain" 😂 brilliant. I always enjoy your videos Tim.
@ThreeRunHomer
@ThreeRunHomer 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like it’s much cheaper and faster to build than a subway, and accomplishes the same goal of transit that doesn’t interfere with the road system. 👍🏼
@jwenting
@jwenting 3 жыл бұрын
basically, though it does take up above ground space making it hard to retrofit into existing cities. Then again, subway tunnels and station exits can also be very hard to place in existing cities (Amsterdam Noord-Zuid line, cough cough).
@jwhite5008
@jwhite5008 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but it's more costly to maintain because everything has to be done in the air, and because monorails are so rare that economics of scale cannot drive prices low. . And maintenance cannot happen overnight, the whole system often has to be closed diverting passengers elsewhere (this happened with mentioned line recently, and with Wuppertal system when it was renovated), because if tracks or support structures are moved, tracks need to be realigned by sending empty trains because supports amplify rail shift. . Trams/trolleybuses/BRTs are cheaper to build and maintain, and typically some wait on some intersections does not warrant the increased maintenance costs. . Airport links are an exception because people need to be on time to board the plane and not crowd airports too much, but airports have to be far from most other infrastructure making building metro or suspended heavy rail infeasible. They are also often built where there was nothing of interest (they require lots of land so need to aquire it relatively cheaply) so often do not have highways connecting them or place to build them without costly land acquisition and building demolition. . Wuppertal is another oddity - town is stretched along the river that historically does not have a good road nearby. And building metro alongside rivers is near-impossible because of flooding. No-one is going to build a motorway over the entire run of the river either. So they have no other good option.
@llothar68
@llothar68 3 жыл бұрын
@@jwhite5008 Well Wuppertals renovation was a once in a centry event. And i don't believe that economy of scale works for subways. Surely not for the tunnel building, maybe for the carriages.
@jantschierschky3461
@jantschierschky3461 3 жыл бұрын
@@jwenting actually the opposite, easily to build above existing roads, canals etc
@jwenting
@jwenting 3 жыл бұрын
@@jantschierschky3461 not really. In theory maybe, in reality they take up a lot of space. The pillars need to go somewhere, requiring buildings to be torn down, so do the stops/stations. Most city streets aren't wide enough that you can just plop a line of say 20ft wide pylons on the median, and have wide enough sidewalks that you can have staircases and elevators leading up from those to the floating loading docks and still leave room for pedestrians to flow past without impeding traffic. Also, especially with older European cities, you'd probably not get building permits because the structures would destroy the old look of the city. Not that much of a problem in modern American cities, in Europe it's not going to work. And American cities aren't going to spend that much money on public transport that they'll ever have the budget for these things.
@AdventurersFortune
@AdventurersFortune 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been to Düsseldorf airport a time or two because it’s the nearest big airport to my hometown. Also, I always knew about the Monorail and never thought it would be something special. Thank you for teaching me better! Good and interesting video!
@theliamcooke
@theliamcooke 3 жыл бұрын
I love the little monorail tune in the background
@Clyde_Donovan
@Clyde_Donovan 3 жыл бұрын
Another interesting system right between Dortmund and Düsseldorf is the kerb-guided bus in Essen - the first of its kind.
@millomweb
@millomweb 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, the 'kerbcrawler' ?
@namibjDerEchte
@namibjDerEchte 3 жыл бұрын
@@millomweb It's basically a but with side-wheels, allowing them to go faster and more straight which is more comfy (like how train rides are more smooth than bus rides).
@millomweb
@millomweb 3 жыл бұрын
@@namibjDerEchte The side wheels only operate the steering.
@ilmarvaim317
@ilmarvaim317 2 жыл бұрын
The O-Bahn. Adelaide, South Australia has had one in operation since the mid 1980's.
@Clyde_Donovan
@Clyde_Donovan 2 жыл бұрын
@@ilmarvaim317 Essen has it since 1980. However, the system kinda failed and there is only one of four routes remaining.
@pooc_0294
@pooc_0294 3 жыл бұрын
I guess this channel has now 3 main topics: conventional Trains, suspended Monorails and Mountains. Where could we find a place, where all of them come together 🤔
@CannaCJ
@CannaCJ 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone know of a really weird hanging funicular up a mountain?
@JeroenvanMontfort
@JeroenvanMontfort 3 жыл бұрын
@@CannaCJ 1:36 Dresden?
@amiscellaneoushuman3516
@amiscellaneoushuman3516 3 жыл бұрын
And stuff in Paris
@varana
@varana 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely Dresden.
@MrINKOMPATIBEL
@MrINKOMPATIBEL 3 жыл бұрын
The answer is: Switzerland. Land of mountains and trains. And you can put your bicycle with you in most of them.
@philix9285
@philix9285 2 жыл бұрын
Duesseldorf is my main airport you could call it and I absoulutly love the Skytrain. It's my favourit thing to do there. I remember that little Bunnys used to hop around on the grass patches underneth the rail and how much I loved them as a kid. I was so sad when the airport put them in the wilderness so they don't get under cars anymore. Now it's just the Skytrain itself that I love because it's such a unique thing
@Prestomeco202
@Prestomeco202 3 жыл бұрын
I rode it during a business trip to Dusseldorf in 2018 and it is just as lovely to ride as Tim says it is.
@mcmcolm
@mcmcolm 3 жыл бұрын
Came here for the Lyle Lanley cover, wasn’t disappointed!
@thibaultlibat368
@thibaultlibat368 3 жыл бұрын
As a french viewer, I appreciate what you did
@swanpride
@swanpride 3 жыл бұрын
We invent it, you improve it, we perfect it. Old trusted circle.
@hubue
@hubue 3 жыл бұрын
As a german viewer, I was like "what wrong country dude"
@amilawickramasinghe662
@amilawickramasinghe662 Жыл бұрын
This is the first time I travelled by a sky train. It was the same Düsseldorf one and love it. from Australia :)
@TexasCat99
@TexasCat99 2 жыл бұрын
On again / off again viewer but my Gawd man, your videos are very enjoyable to watch and listen!
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video, Tim. When I was a child in the 1970s and we visited Epcot Center in Florida, I was certain the future would look like monorails everywhere (it was what Tomorrowland depicted of course). I cannot see a monorail without instinctively believing that the city I am in is progressive and futuristic. I'm going to have to go to Düsseldorf as soon as they open their border with the Netherlands now! Thanks.
@BerndVonTrollhausen
@BerndVonTrollhausen 3 жыл бұрын
As a child I was stuck in the Dortmund version of this for several hours because of a technical error. As a student I rode this train almost daily and it was still as much fun as on day one. The track in Dortmund runs up- and downhill through a forest connecting two parts of the campus and through the eyes of a child it's no less spectacle than a roller coaster. Thanks for bringing up these memories again. I really hope, that the current plans to extend the existing tracks to a newly found district will come true.
@ideologybot4592
@ideologybot4592 Жыл бұрын
I briefly looked into suspended trains a while back but it didn't occur to me that having the rail above would keep the elements and the vandals from messing with anything. Between that, the small footprint, and the sway difference, you kind of sold me on the design.
@shraka
@shraka 6 ай бұрын
I'm not sure the small footprint is much to do with the design, as much as the weight. You could make elevated conventional light rail with this footprint - though admittedly it would block slightly more skyline.
@DoomPlague
@DoomPlague 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you used two versions of the official international monorail theme.
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