Why Does No One Talk About Zootopia?⎮A Disney Discussion

[@elenanojkovic2554]

What I like is that Judy's biases were not super overt. She was not someone shouting "Yo, I'm racist" from the rooftops. She wasn't even someone who would say "I'm not racist...but...", the way her parents were. She thought of herself as someone progressive, someone open minded, yet she was blind to her own bias.

[@hastiborhani3492]

Yeah,it's interesting because most of her bias were because of trauma and lack of thinking

[@cowtitties9785]

i really love that character flaw because it’s extremely realistic. there’s so many people out there who believe they’re progressive but as soon as it slightly affects their life or have any presence in it they suddenly start having second thoughts. i love her character development in the movie.

[@utopian4769]

I think we need to see more of that in film. Society doesn't realize that prejudice isn't always an explicit thing, and not everyone who has it is necessarily a bad person. Everyone has bias in some regard whether or not we acknowledge it. I think Judy's case was one of ignorance, rather than malice. I'm just upset that it took a Disney cartoon to explain to people that there's nuance to these things more often than not. I think Zootopia's message was about how perspective can be a real eye opener, and that people are brought together by sympathizing with each other's struggles, which is the first step to change.

[@ajackass5950]

I think it's wack that they used animals that eat other animals to represent oppressed people. Paints a fucked up picture.

[@mr.x2567]

I’m pretty sure people just hate her for being a cop

[@hunterrousseau3770]

I didn't forget about this great Disney animated film, heck there's even a Disney Plus series about some of the characters coming this year. I just wish we could get a follow-up animated series about the movie with Judy and Nick as the main focuses

[@Zo3y-haz3l]

True i never forget that movie

[@hunterrousseau3770]

@@Zo3y-haz3l thank you

[@duncancurtis1758]

Zootopia did a lot for me after a long depression and I was going to see it twice before it finished in the UK. As a stand alone fable without a franchise it hit the social spot like a sledgehammer on a peanut in those pre Trump woke fake news days. That ain't never gonna happen again. Thanks to officers Hopps and Wilde.

[@hunterrousseau3770]

@@duncancurtis1758 yes thank you guys indeed well said

[@kaansnormalandfunworld1844]

Maybe zootopia+ will tease zootopia 2 and then we can see our beloved Fox and bunny Again

[@purplearies9746]

I JUST rewatched this. I won't even lie, it's Disney's greatest film. The message came out as such a perfect time, and even my little pea brain knew that the contrasts and comparisons made between prey & predators and humans. Just an amazing film.

[@fromhimandforhim]

amen man so true best film they have ever made

[@rosemaazi]

YES.

[@johnpaul2295]

Cough the hunchback of Notre dame cough

[@thanos4769]

My theory is that zootopia is usually associated with furries and people made a stereotype out of it: "Oh, you're a furry? Then you must like Zootopia smh", which in turn made a great film that happened to have animals, into something negative...

[@Nstone53]

Bingo!

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

So that means every animated movie we like with talking animals in it means we are automatically furries? When was this a thing? I mean, that was Disney’s main thing. That is what kids like.

[@amberr3662]

By that logic shouldn't movies like lion King also be considered a furry movie?? Edit: actually now that I think about it, it's probably because zootopia animals are more humanoid. But still, pretty dumb reason for people to hate on a movie.

[@rommix0]

That sounds familiar. Apply that same theory to the possible outcome for Turning Red because it's "cringe" instead of the furry part. But yeah, I think that theory is plausible.

[@thanos4769]

@@amberr3662 YES, i think that's why Zootopia is different from other movies like Lion King like you said, the animals act more like real humans (walk on 2 feet, have jobs) whereas in Lion King, they act like animals (going in nature, all fours, the food chain exists)

[@meequalsbookworm3029]

I feel like Tangled is underrated. Just because the songs aren’t as catchy as “Let it Go” or whatever doesn’t mean the movie wasn’t spectacular and the same goes for Zootopia. Eugene and Nick Wilde are some of THE best Disney characters of all time

[@fuhgetabatit1051]

Both of those movies were directed by Byron Howard, I love both of them more than frozen.

[@meequalsbookworm3029]

@@fuhgetabatit1051 Same

[@hastiborhani3492]

Tangled's story really was amazing,it just gets better when you're older

[@GABE_is_here]

that and also Princess & The Frog.

[@poisonedyoyo]

"Now I See the Light" is pretty good and "I've Got a Dream" is somwath fun, but Tangled also has a very irritating song, Mother Gothel's, and all of Frozen's song are good or great, so there's a huge rift there. OH also the best Tangled song is obviously "When Will My Life Begin?" reprise.

[@enteikarino6921]

I wonder if the social stigma of furries is what pushes people away. People may fear judgement if they watch this because people may accuse them of being furries, which sucks because this movie is fantastic whether or not you're a furry.

[@CrayCrayslab]

Yea even tho when I first watched it I wasn't aware of furries now every time I rewatch it I just get reminded of the tons and tons of nsfw shit I've seen of the characters on the internet (no, I didn't search for it, it's literally unavoidable) and I think it received a lot more porn than a usual movie, cause, well, furries.

[@Mnemoniforma9.00]

Honestly, I saw the stigma let up with this movie's release. I think people have stopped talking about it because discourse about discrimination has become tainted by woke politics and everyone's sick of that. Plus, Beastars went a lot harder and heavier with the same premise.

[@nevadacario2000]

@@Mnemoniforma9.00 yeah

[@mr.x2567]

It’s now hated because of all those instances of police brutality

[@Mnemoniforma9.00]

@@mr.x2567 Which fueled some of the more socially harmful talking points of the selfish people who took advantage of those tragedies for their own political gain. So at the end of the day, it's the same kettle of rotten fish.

[@김민석-r9r5u]

You hit the nail right in the head by stating how non-musicals are always left in the background in comparison to the big musicals with high replay value. Not only that, but Zootopia didn't get all that much promotion outside of its original 3 year cycle post release the way movies like Moana or Frozen do because well, it's a "difficult" franchise to push in comparison to the princess . Toy Story or Frozen lines. At any rate, I think I'd rather have small circles talking about Zootopia than to have it be downplayed for being "overrated" and "oversaturated" which always happens to the musicals (Frozen, Tangled, Moana, Encanto, etc.). Sadly, because of the entire cop situation in the US, I highly doubt we will be getting Zootopia 2 anytime soon despite it having been in development for several years now.

[@gachagav_gc]

I have to disagree on Encanto being oversaturated or overrated, but I do agree on the American cop reason

[@duncancurtis1758]

Maybe it doesn't need one after all.

[@ClaudetteVioletta]

Tangled is not overrated and Encanto either, or at least not yet. But I think Zootopia deserves to stay one movie and have it's series.

[@hourshandhacker4194]

It wasn't in development at all

[@hyperdreamer9483]

Honestly I don’t know where else they could go with the story without it getting a bit too 2022 “The Batman” or ‘Beastars” with the story and I don’t think Disney would really want to go there with this kinda series yet.

[@reddungeoneer2187]

Zootopia is the best movie Disney has ever made. The characters and city are just incredible! A world I would love to visit for real! Just wish we knew when it will return for more adventures!

[@pranjalsarkar7895]

It is both Kid and Adult friendly , a movie without any boundaries(age,) , It has great world building...one of the best disney films

[@casualgamer3900]

Huh sound kinda like what I hear about Avatar the Last Airbender. For kids and adults and without boundaries It has great world building. Also doesn’t talk down to its audience.

[@Nstone53]

It's because people were afraid they'd be labeled a furry. There was a ton of talk and jokes around that online after the movie came out.

[@randomwolfygirl]

Yes, even though. You are only a furry if you say so.

[@Dolphanatic]

I wouldn't say Zootopia isn't talked about, but rather overlooked due to the overwhelming popularity of other Disney movies like you mentioned. To this day, there's still an active fanbase writing Zootopia fanfiction and drawing artwork, but I think the enthusiasm might be starting to fade slightly because of how little new content is being made. It's hard to keep fans excited when there's nothing to look forward to other than a Disney+ spinoff series. As a result, there just isn't that much to talk about that hasn't already been said at this point, so the initial hype for the movie has died down since it came out back in 2016.

[@raymondthumper2267]

I know what you're saying and although I've never looked, I've always assumed that movies like Frozen, Tangled, etc have bigger and more active fandoms due to their apparent popularity, but I could be wrong as I feel those movies were aimed at a younger audience and thus the interest could wane sooner. There is however the mould breaker in MLP, but I'm not going anywhere near that ;) Looking forward to Zootopia+ if they can't get around to Z2...

[@poisonedyoyo]

Zootopia is still among the top tier of Disney animated films as far as appreciation goes. It is always in trending on Disney+, excet when they for some reason onlys howed the to trending TV shows and cut out the movies entirely around the time Black Widow came out and for like two months afteward. But when they don't do that, Zootoia is always in trending, AND furthermore, it is one of first two WDAS roeprties to receive a Disney+ show, the first being Big Hero 6. They are not going to give those to anything but top tier or second to tier stuff for awhile. I would say Princessa nd the Frog goes in the second tier, not from myr ankings but how I've seen it. I think there's four tiers, Top Popular, Mid Popular, Sort of Talked About, and Bottom Not Very Much Mentioned. Maybe five tiers actually but still.

[@hyperdreamer9483]

Honestly I feel like Disney didn’t do anything else with Zootopia because they didn’t know where to go without it getting really dark and not really a kids movie

[@braverydoesstuff4063]

I love this movie so much! But I always thought it was because it’s literally a furry film. But you bring up a good point. I love “Try Everything”, it gets me all excited and bouncing around like a little kid again, but I do agree with the facts your brought up. A shame not a lot of people are talking about it.

[@meredithsmakings3068]

This movie was released when I was 11. I’m currently 17. Zootopia has been my favorite Disney movie since then, and I’ve loved it more than any other. Part of me is upset it doesn’t get recognized, because I would love to see more from Nick and Judy, see what’s up with the ZPD, but the other part is grateful. I don’t want it to turn into Frozen, milked for what it’s worth and overlooked for its deep moments. I just wished people noticed its genius a little more often

[@aliciasatchell5426]

Same, literally obsessed with this movie. Love ❤ 😍 💖 ❣ 💕 💘 ❤ 😍 💖 ❣ 💕 💘 ❤ 😍 💖 ❣

[@g.d.graham2446]

Definitely my favorite as well, and I recommend checking out Zootopia fanfictions as well

[@manvisrishti1401]

Same

[@aliciasatchell5426]

@@g.d.graham2446 ❤👍🏽

[@fantasybuff3186]

My little sister was obsessed with zootopia and we had to watch this movie a dozen times. It was fun but I did get tired after a while

[@maanisdone9647]

guess im your lil sis

[@fantasybuff3186]

@@maanisdone9647 😂

[@alejandrovelez6358]

I still remember this movie, and I’ll say that it’s the best modern Disney animated movie with such a great message that teaches us that we can all live peacefully together, no matter our race, gender, herbivore, or carnivore. I feel like this movie did a much better job at teaching us about not being racist than what Pocahontas did. And the characters in this movie were so memorable. The only issue I have with this movie is obviously its twist villain “Bellwether” , but regardless, everything else about this movie was so beautiful, phenomenal, and heartwarming :’)💞

[@g.d.graham2446]

Best non-musical Disney movie, bar none

[@g.d.graham2446]

I liked Bellwether mainly because of how she was a FOIL for Judy Hopps' character

[@keysburntgucci9016]

I am genuinely curious why you thought Bellwether being the villain was an issue

[@poisonedyoyo]

Frozen is the best movie period but not because of Elsa, because of Princess Anna of Arendelle, the number one character in all of anything, who Disney disrespected in the so-called sequel and basically marred the franchise going forward. Definitely worst theater moment when Anna literally does something the character would never do, and which the movie you're currently watching itself expressed this. All they had to do was bring in another character, this so-called Samantha, to fill that role, she could've been Elsa's new best friend that Anna was worried she was losing her sister to, and then Samantha saves the day, Elsa is restored, and Elsa and Anna decide to live together in the woods, would've been a nice ending, instead they chose to SEPARATE them and basically be as evil as Disney ever could be, not even understanding why Frozen is popular int he first place. And that Oalf's Frozen Adventure that Frozen haters complained about being in front of Coco? That was written by someroen who isn't Jennfier Lee, who actually UNDERSTANDSA why Frozen is such an amaazing movie. WDAS has somewhat redeemed themselves with Raya and the Last Dragon and Encanto, but the fact that the same studio made the best movie ever and the worst sequel ever for the same franchise is wild.

[@TheSpinkels]

@@keysburntgucci9016 By being absolutely obvious as the villain and being so simply for the sake of a surprise twist rugpull. Disney has lately been rather indirectly insulting to the intelligence of movie-goers by thinking that having an oh-so sweet and adorable character do an Uno reverse in the last five minutes with no buildup or context is somehow good writing. It's especially obvious when they keep having the secretly character randomly appear and given a tiny bit of focus but ultimately do nothing, making it clear they're being saved up to be the surprise plot-twist big bad evil person.

[@avigyabhattarai8158]

ig people who do realise they have subconsious racist views have trouble rewatching or openly discussing or show their kids this film, like they feel called out and wanna avoid it

[@dashad1099]

Yeah, people who have racist biases to deal would probably avoid story alikes when these famous films call them out are thrown out of popularity.

[@keysburntgucci9016]

Ooh that is a good reason. Especially now that their kids have gotten older and can actually call out their parents for their discrimination

[@cocopuff0124]

Zootopia will be my favorite all time animated Disney movie. There is a series or movie coming out called Zootopia+

[@shadowmarauder6033]

I definitely believe your theory for why this excellent film isn't as commonly talked about or marketed as other. Thsi, plus probably somemodern ideas about furries, makes itget hidden away in between other great films by Disney, and I hope it gets a significant addition, like a follow-up movie or show.

[@Audreyana]

It is getting a show

[@shadowmarauder6033]

@@Audreyana there is something called zootopia+, which is a bunch of shorts, but I haven’t heard anything else about it. Not even a release date.

[@hourshandhacker4194]

@@shadowmarauder6033 it is this year, still no specific date but we know that the animation has already been finished

[@shadowmarauder6033]

@@hourshandhacker4194 thanks!

[@raymondthumper2267]

@@shadowmarauder6033 They've been talking about Zootopia+ for more than two years now, and apart from one piece of promotional art, we haven't seen/heard anything, but I still have my fingers crossed.

[@Wesley-tv1ti]

Zootopia is my Disney movie! My favorite of all time! Well, actually it's Lady and the Tramp but Zootopia is so close it's not even funny. I loved the movie and always go back rewatching it. I love everything about it! The story, characters, and world. It's such a shame that we never got a sequel. At least a group of fans came together and made a fan film sequel being Return to Zootopia. I could write a whole essay explaining my love for Zootopia but I'm not. Just know I love Zootopia with all my heart and will always remember the memories and experiences I had with this masterpiece! I'm subscribing just because it's about Zootopia!

[@raymondthumper2267]

Welcome to the club.

[@g.d.graham2446]

Definitely

[@TheFlamingGamerYT]

I really loved this movie when it first came out, and the story along with the soundtrack was incredible. It’s a shame it’s not talked about as it is, and I agree with your potential reason as to why that is. Judy and Nick never break into ballads or solos during the film, but I’d say the story and the soundtrack is good without any musical numbers. Try Everything is a great song, and it fits well. Sometime after the movie came out, I was hoping that a sequel would be made at some point, and to this day, I still lowkey hope. Yes there is a Disney+ series that’ll come out, and while I’ll check that out, I’d also love to know how Nick and Judy are doing since the events of Zootopia, as long as the sequel is written well

[@raymondthumper2267]

I could suggest digging around in the fandoms, but I take no responsibility for the results of this action ;)

[@g.d.graham2446]

I'll continue to wait patiently

[@thunderbro7218]

You know I think we don’t talk about it because it’s just that so FUCKING good nuff said

[@sharonx6541]

Great video as always but a want to inform you that zootopia has a tv series in development that dives deeper into the lives of some of the feature film characters

[@PinkPrecure]

Dude I LOVE Zootopia! I loved it so much I saw it in theaters twice!

[@marvelbrights5485]

I never forgot about Zootopia at all. It's one of my favorite Disney movies

[@g.d.graham2446]

Same here #WildeHoppsForever

[@dashad1099]

Yeah. I didn't watch the movie but i remember watching a video from some guy who hated the Sheep bc she's a twist villian. To be honest, i don't understand the gripe people have with twist villians, not that i like most of them (sometimes they're kinda predictable...) but *i sincerely* don't like to already know who the villian is from the get go. I think the movie have a chill premise and a good popular plot that came on a bad time with the rise of Beastars, aggrestuko, BNA and anime/cartoons alike. Everything related to furries is also ostracized so that don't help.

[@hastiborhani3492]

Tbh twist villains are fine as long as they're done well but frozen and zootopia felt really out of nowhere. A lot of people hate Disney's new villains since they're mostly twist villains,shame because zootopia's villain had a lot of potential if she was written better

[@dashad1099]

@@hastiborhani3492 Yeah, i agree.

[@starsiadraws]

I think the problem with some twist villains is that they have to make the balance of being a surprise but also not coming out of nowhere and Mayor Bellweather kinda came out of nowhere and didn't really make retroactive sense. Twists should change the way you look back to a movie so you can see the small hints add up but there was literally nothing indicating that she would be the villain (other than her being mistreated by Lionheart, but not all bullied characters turn out evil).

[@dashad1099]

@@starsiadraws I can imagine. But... I must be the odd one out cuz i personally like when there's few to no hint at all, maybe i little bit of a personality slip? Dunno. It makes them look like a better planner to me- idk But i get the fact that it is out of nowhere so "it doesn't make sense". But personally, the hate people give to twist villians is really bothersome and oversaturated.

[@hastiborhani3492]

@@dashad1099 i like that they're not obvious too,but they should give the audience some hints yk? King candy from wreck it ralph was great imo

[@sk8rmouse404]

There's a Disney+ series coming soon. And let's not forget the Nick Wilde simps. So... not that forgotten

[@DiamondsRexpensive]

No, not forgotten. Especially after that anime and all the fanart. You wanna know what's forgotten????? Meet the Robinsons.

[@shubh.bapi_9423]

"We dont talk about Judy...dy...dy..dy... We don't talk about Judyyyy!!!"

[@raymondthumper2267]

I see what you did there...

[@liblib620]

Zootopia is one of my favorite films of all time! It deaply saddens me that it's not talked about.

[@meshiterofoodblog1615]

Kubo is still a better film. Despite that I enjoyed this one. I like the part when nick talks about wanting to be in cub scouts. This is bullying kids will understand and can start a dialogue about how to treat each other.

[@fromhimandforhim]

THIS IS SO GOOD. Zootopia is my #1 favorite Disney film for all the reasons you said. Even without being a musical it has one of the BEST stories of all time and some of the BEST most RELATABLE characters too. So glad someone is standing up for this film and giving it the love it deserves

[@lenastorm6280]

I love this movie! This world is so interesting & cool! I wish we would get a sequel!

[@phylesenavidad5714]

same here

[@hunterrousseau3770]

Well it is getting a Disney Plus series about some of the characters in this movie called: Zootopia+. I just wish we could get a follow-up animated series with Judy and Nick as the main focuses

[@lenastorm6280]

@@hunterrousseau3770 What?? Really??

[@hunterrousseau3770]

@@lenastorm6280 yes really look it up

[@Isaangie]

@@hunterrousseau3770 hmm that's a short series actually, but both protagonists wouldn't be the main focus this time... that's what I've known on Twitter so far :P

[@juliac9279]

This is one of my favorite movies of all time. The chemistry between Nick and Judy is so cute to watch and it has a great message too. I love it so much and wanted more so I even watched the fan made Return to Zootopia film as well

[@keysburntgucci9016]

For us Zootopia lovers, it's really a Sequel. Like If Zootopia 2 ever comes out, it has to outshine Return to Zootopia for me. Otherwise I'm fine with Zootopia being a solo. Don't want another Frozen 2 disaster.

[@juliac9279]

@@keysburntgucci9016 I’m kinda confused what you’re trying to say

[@keysburntgucci9016]

@@juliac9279 what I wanted to say was that the fan-made Return to Zootopia impressed me so much with its plot, dialogues & the character handling that I'm actually okay to consider it as a sequel (for me) if Disney never give us Zootopia 2. If Disney do decide someday They have to do better than this fan-made movie that was done with limited resources.

[@juliac9279]

@@keysburntgucci9016 yeah agreed it continued with the race thing and made an analogy to interracial relationships and it had good themes. Disney is making a series through I wonder what that will be like

[@masonhall2297]

I think the reason why it isn't talked so much is because how much it relates so much in real life. Despite being talking animals it really is the closest thing to being real life and because of that it kinda makes people uncomfortable talking about it because the problems they had in the movie is the very same problem we deal with in our every day life. To put it simply the movie hits too close to home.

[@kiko-pr1rq]

I agree with you. I think it's not as popular as it once was because it is not a musical, and I do like the movie, but the twist at the end was uncalled for. It just happened rather than having points in the movie show that the sheep could have been a twist villain.

[@turbok.o.3324]

Nah the twist was amazing u tweaking

[@rommix0]

@@turbok.o.3324 The twist villain in Toy Story 2 was far better than what Zootopia and Incredibles 2 did. It's very lazy writing that plagued Disney for a while after Frozen came out. It was a dark time when Disney relied on twist villains as a crutch (including Coco).

[@g.d.graham2446]

Well, they did; it was just quite subtle and worked with the "wolf in sheep's clothing" twist

[@keysburntgucci9016]

There was a "Call Doug" note on Bellwether's office when Judy & Nick were checking Jam cams. It was a good and subtle clue.

[@Axyierl]

Furries: "I beg you pardon"?

[@pranjalsarkar7895]

Here , in India , It is shown on TV quite often, so it is definitely not forgotten Along with Frozen and Ralph breaks the Internet , I have rewatched this movie several times and it is quite good

[@keysburntgucci9016]

I was so hyped when i saw the movie dubbed in Hindi, I forgot on which channel. But man was I blown away by the dubbing, the dialogues were translated so well that I laughed the same as I did while watching in English. And I wish more people watched these kind of animation in India.

[@moritztsacher]

I personally HATE this movie. It's not just one of the most boring animated films, but also one the worst films by Disney with a predictable and uninteresting story, animation that looks nice yet kind of unoriginal, a cast of forgetably dull characters, and one of the most unlistenable songs for a movie soundtrack.

[@seancaptain3043]

If it was live action, Judy would be a woman and Nick would be black

[@elo2coon434]

I think, its lack of visibility is caused by the film itself, it's a moovie that tacle so many social behavior of socity, mostly american (US) socity. And why would people speak about a moovie wicht tacle at times their own social behavior. In a nutshell, despite his kids and bubbly aspect, this moovies is to reel. And speaking about it is saying that this behavior exist and they do. But "people" prefer to evade themselve with music and dream than going all out against other people behavior or their own.

[@i4ani.]

theres no way that Zootopia is 6 years old already

[@raymondthumper2267]

IKR.

[@ashleysniffen7249]

I want them to make a second zootopia

[@raymondthumper2267]

Thank you for vote number 5,683,754 and counting.

[@douglasmurphy1113]

*Another reason:* Disney dropped the ball with marketing. With movies like Frozen and Moana and others: Disney CRAMMED merchandise and relevance down your throat. You couldn't go anywhere without seeing a girl dressed as a princess, a kid without a backpack, or everything else. Disney struck gold with this movie but never exploited its success.

[@tabbiexcat]

I have another theory regarding Zootopia. A significant portion of the profits from the film was made from Asian countries. Of course I don’t know exactly how much, but by looking up merchandise from Shanghai Disneyland or Tokyo Disney, you can see it definitely has a presence there. Heck, Shanghai is even getting their own Zootopia section of the park. In most other places, Zootopia is sidelined by Disney in favor of other films, typically the princess franchise. If you visit Disney World or Disneyland it is significantly difficult to find any merchandise or a presence of Zootopia at all. I visited in 2019 and all I found at the time was 2 trading pins. Unfortunately I don’t know when Disney is going to realize that we outside of Asia really enjoy Zootopia too!

[@glh2000]

After waiting for 3 years for a representation or maketing one character, Finnick was slaughtered for meat on December 10, 2020.

[@Samvise88]

I think the future of Zootopia will be decided by how the upcoming animated series is received by fans. If it is to be as successful as I hope, then I believe nothing will stop Disney from investing further in this franchise. I love this movie very much and I hope with all my heart to see a sequel in a few years that can introduce new districts and new characters. Furthermore, I would like to see the evolution of Nick and Judy's relationship because they have such chemistry that it would be a real shame not to use it for plot purposes. Those two look too good together!

[@chifuchi]

I totally agree with your point! No one was talking about Encanto until they could stream it again and again, and rehear Brunos song. Most disney musicals have that rewatchability that you can let the movie go in loop in the background while you do chores and stuff. Songs make a movie more memorable in the long run, and being remembered everytime they put a disney playlist to hear.

[@Zephyr-tg9hu]

While I wouldn't go as far to say that she's racist, Judy certainly exhibits implicit bias which only makes her character more realistic, if anything. However, I would say her parents are racist lol.

[@hater105]

You're actually comparing black people to animals.... stay classy.

[@DragonKingX78]

I still think Wreck It Ralph is the best of the modern Disney animated films....too bad about the sequel.

[@TheElf33]

My boys and I watched this last night at their request. So they definitely haven’t forgotten it.

[@dancerbranka]

One of best, funniest, intense and original animated films ever. I really enjoyed it

[@RodrigoLopezandfriends]

People talk a lot less about this movie because a lot of Americans found out the hard way that police depts across the US are hugely racist, corrupt and heavily militarized. It's hard to go back to Zootopia's "we should all do better" fantasy version of racism after seeing real racism perpetrated by real cops who then face no consequences.

[@tasniem2825]

i rewatched zootopia 2 days ago and it was SO GOOD!! i agree with everything you said in this video, this movie is so underrated. and tbh it doesn't even bother me that there are no songs in there and that it's not a musical film. personally i prefer movies without every few minutes being interrupted by a song. i really enjoyed that movie and i love the storyline. it's one of my favourite movies!! i really hope there will come a zootopia 2 and i would like to see birds, reptiles and maybe even sea animals in zootopia 2!

[@kaansnormalandfunworld1844]

I hope zootopia+ tv series Will reveal sequel

[@OpticalSorcerer]

The fact that Zootopia and Frozen 2 made over $1 billion and are considered underrated by Disney's standards is insane.

[@georgebarrett8065]

I think it was due to not much merchandise and shorts after the film came out. Frozen had shorts and tons of merchandise to go along with the massive success. I think the furry stigma has to do with it slightly as well.

[@lucyandecember2843]

I mean, if that was the case pixar wouldn't be a thing, toy story like you mentioned isn't a musical either. Theres tons of movies out there who people talk about and remember even tho they're not musicals so idk

[@DarkShadow-gr1ym]

I actually despise movies that are mostly songs, especially Frozon 2

[@kaansnormalandfunworld1844]

This is type of movie desereves a sequel or became a franchise i hope it will one day 🙏😌

[@calebmarroquin1045]

I specifically like that you pointed out how the message of the movie doesn’t exclusively refer to racism or sexism like most reviewers at the time would be saying all over the place, but that it refers to prejudice as a whole. That prejudice could come from anyone, anywhere, and for any reason and it’ll effect people or whole societies if you let them run amok. You could sort of compare it to Pride and Prejudice in that regard.

[@seanmachado7681]

I'm thinking Zootopia+ is a "probe" to see is there is interest in Zootopia that might lead to Z2

[@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF]

It took me so long to see this movie! And when I finally saw it! It was awesome!

[@PsychoticFox0120]

Thank you for addressing this problem. It shocks me how successful this film is, but Disney doesn’t bother to treat it like the other Walt Disney Animation Studios films that came before and after. Sure things like Moana or Frozen get more attention because of how easily marketable they are cuz OOH Disney Princess movies, but when you look at stuff like Wreck it Ralph or Big Hero 6. Those aren’t your typical Disney Princess musical movies, yet some how even those have gotten more than Zootopia. They still get more merch to this day than Zootopia, Ralph got a sequel (which was wasted potential and was trash), and Big Hero 6 got a full series. I want Zootopia+ to be the hope and change that Disney will give some love to this franchise again, but with how little it’s being teased or advertised, I’m not even sure anymore. Zootopia’s success and even more so the ongoing issues out in the world that fits Zootopia’s subject matter really well, I think they totally warrant a sequel. There’s so much potential to make the second movie more exciting, fun, emotional, and hard hitting than the first, and I really want Disney to finally do something with it. The excuse that they don’t want it to be “too dark” is total ass when you’ve got so many older and even newer movies that can be even darker. Let Zootopia 2 push the boundaries. This is my favorite movie for many reasons and I really hope more can come from it in the future after Zootopia+…

[@ClioMako]

I think Zootopia was mostly forgotten because it presented a product with rather woke messages, during an age where everything is saturated with wokeness. Despite this trend not being as prevalent in 2016 as it is now, I do remember these points about the movie to be discussed back then. Disney had a very compelling concept, yet felt the need to inject manmade, and often one sided societal issues, into a fantasy metropolis inhabited by anthropomorphic animals. I find that such storylines stike as very preachy and judgemental, as if reprimanding the viewers for a crime they never commited. It is tedious, and sucks all the fun out of it, which is the number one criteria needed for casual Disney/cartoon fans to sit down and watch a movie. To my assessment, people pick up on that, which might explain one of the reasons why Zootopia became quickly overlooked, despite its initial success. Overall, my opinion is that Zootopia was a product of its time and will not age terribly well, but only the future will tell.

[@nathangay6404]

Interesting theory. Although, I'd argue that Zootopia hasn't been talked about in recent years because the topic of racism and social bias is still an uncomfortable thing to talk about. I know, crazy idea, considering that social bias and how to overcome them is literally the whole message of the movie, but bear with me for a moment. Think about what's happening these days, with all these social movements like BLM and Ukraine under siege, and how everyone is treating each other in response to these events, at least the vocal few on social media. If racism wasn't an uncomfortable topic then, it definitely is now. Zootopia is truly a masterpiece, taking a message would rather not hear and deliver in a palatable and enjoyable way. I just wish the greatness wasn't overshadowed by the message being difficult to address. It seems that we have to overcome the stigma of talking about social bias before overcoming social bias. Then again, this is just a theory, and I have been wrong before...

[@janomz]

Honestly I don’t get the comparisons here. Don’t get me wrong Zootopia is great and underrated but Mona is superior in almost any way (in my opinion of course) AND… and this is the big one, yes Frozen made a lot of money but in terms of quality it simply cant be mentioned next to those other films 😂

[@hgos7211]

Here's hoping the sequel is coming out late next year! Originally thought Encanto's timeslot would be for Zootopia 2. It's been 5 years, and it definitely deserves a sequel or even a trilogy with how rich the universe is.

[@createwithminty4118]

A yes the movie made me question if I'm a furry (I'm not)

[@rebecca3647]

I enjoy Zootopia for largely one reason - the jaguar in the opening scene of Judy's class play who proudly proclaimed "I want to be an actuary!". I had recently discovered that I wanted to study actuarial science, and seeing a character in a Disney movie talk about a pretty niche career made me feel so happy. I think Zootopia has something for everything, even if it's something small like that.

[@PillowEgg]

Amazing movie! The chances of getting a sequel are pretty low, just because of what is happening in society. With White cops being racist and the whole Black Lives Matter issue, trigger happy cops abusing power and putting their foot on Black people throats. I thought after this movie we were over racism, then here we go again. That this and Black Panther movie will do some good and inspire and cause awareness. Then China manufactures Covid-19 and people become racist to Chinese people for starting the pandemic, then Russia invade Ukraine and now we see Russians as invaders and we get the message that China and Russia are bad, all communist brain washed people. It puts a bad taste and colours people through generalization. So yeah we won't get a Zootopia 2 because it will stir contraversey, I mean 343i even removed a red and blue siren nameplate in Halo Masterchief Collection. We still live in a sick world, with sick people, in a sick society.

[@TheSultan1470]

That's the dumbest comment I've ever seen

[@mr.x2567]

Then put society out of it’s misery

[@the_mikeanator]

I 💯 agree with you I love Zootopia one of my favorite Disney films but no one talks about it like the others because it's not filled with songs

[@rommix0]

It kinda is though. People forget the movie has a jukebox ending.

[@Luke17d]

Quick answer: no

[@BearKookieKusu]

Zootopia is and still remains as my FAVORITE disney movie of all time. Like everything you've mentioned, Zootopia has such a great story, amazing visuals, great character development, and the story is honestly really unique. It's weird, but Zootopia is hardly ever marketed like in disney stores which I find strange since they're all animals, it would be easy to make stuffed toys of the characters. Zootopia is great because is doesn't just cater to children, but it does have adult-like humor that is still enjoyable for kids. Such as Nick's tax evasion or the joke about sloths working at the DMV is something adults can relate to. I hope that Zootopia will gain the popularity it deserves, especially since a sequel is now in the works!

[@KimonoSuki]

I actually feel like zootopia was super popular fo ra bit there , like for years ,, i mean it got kinda hijacked by furries and/or people trying to make fun of furries in the sam eway Space Jam did but yeah

[@temmie9391]

Neat video

[@IndriidaeNT]

Imagine in Zooptoia 2 or the Zooptoia 3D Show, Nick Wilde and Judy Hopps singing and performing, “Hold Me Closer” by Brittneay Spears and Elton John or even “Honey Don’t Go Breaking My Heart” or the original song, “The Fox and Bunny are together”, or even show Gazelle and Clawhauser singing and performing together, “Blank Space” by Taylor Swift or “Stripes and Horns” or even Fru Fru, Judy (shrew), Brianca, Mandy, Charisma and Christine singing and performing, “Barbie Girl” by Aqua or even, “Shrews and Mice” or even show Flash and Priscalla singing and performing, “Rocket Man” by Elton John or “Slow Sloths for Life” and Gazelle, Clawhauser, Chief Bogo, the Otterton family, Flash, Priscalla, Fru Fru and her friends, the Otterton family and Sam and Nick and Judy singing and performing together, “Levitating” by Dua Lipa feat. Dababy or even “Dance the Night” by Dua Lipa, or the original song, “The Tree of Life.”

[@richardblakely6854]

I think you’re probably right about the musical numbers being a factor. I really enjoyed it - I bought the BluRay and the art book. But I do have a friend (who’s also a massive Disney fan) who felt Zootopia/Zootropolis sacrificed story for message. Hopefully the D+ series will bring the movie back into peoples consciousness.

[@MrAspiringactor]

I have to agree with your friend that it sacrificed its story for its message; the story was just so by the numbers for the most part. Like you can have both a message and a good story, I can think of plenty of movies that have done so.

[@TheTattorack]

I personally can't stand musicals. I find the whole affair completely pointless and a waste of time. Let's relegate what needs to be told on good character writing to a song... Great... I can't be the only one who feels like this, so I doubt Zootopia not being a musical is the reason why it's being forgotten. Toy Story, Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Monsters Inc, these aren't musicals either, but they're remembered really well.

[@chucklesdeclown8819]

i think disney branching out from the standard musical was actually a good thing, i mean atlantis, treasure planet, and lilo and stitch, were all great films as well

[@Eidings-Mc]

Gotta love that editing! Sometimes it nearly felt like what you said was kinda lip synced by the characters on screen. Their actions fit to what was said, and so stuff like you saying Zootopia's soundtrack can't compete to the catchy score's of other titles, while showing Judy taking her breath after a long run. This attention to detail is so cool yet so subtle. But it makes for a really fun watch and is so much better than random scenes stitched together or just playing the same trailer footage over and over again. So chapeau! for going the extra mile here; it's much appreciated :)

[@avivagodfrey]

I think Zootopia would've done better with a "good vibes" montage somewhere. Just one. Even short. Like, think about the montage between Jim Hawkins and Long John Silver in Treasure Planet-when the two of them go out for a ride on that sloop, it's such good character chemistry with a FIRE soundtrack, y'know? And Zootopia, while funny, didn't have much light-heartedness in it. I might be wrong-it's been a long time since I watched it, after all-but that's how it feels in my memories. The character chemistry is my favorite though, and I forgive many, MANY things for the sake of character chemistry.

[@RN-7488th]

I don't forget, I'm stuck as the captain of the ZPD. Did I mean to crash my TIE fighter here? No, no I did not. Did I want to become a police officer? No, no I did not. Did hopps point a gun at my head and force me to apply. I'm legally not allowed to answer that. Could I order the city to be leveled. Yes, yes I could. Why don't I? I don't know. I will now go and assign hopps and wilde to a 12 hour patrol. Why? Cause fuck them, that's why. Wilde suffers because he's partners with hopps. I will make hopps suffer.

[@sim.frischh9781]

I can say with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that it is not. Source of my confidence? My usual p*rn site.

[@sofiaroura9652]

I think that Zootopia was famous mainly because of the time and context. But with society's constant change, the message got a bit muddy. For example, many people have noticed that putting "the predators" as a minority and blaming "the prey" for fearing them (because they would literally EAT them in the past) might bring up some... let's say unfortunate conclusions. Like for example, one could equate predators to a certain race group that's usually associated with violence, and say "welp, I'm justified to think this way, because they are the predators, they are violent".

[@gregorythepoodle2508]

At first, I thought you were British, but since you've said Zootopia and not Zootropolis, you're obviously either from Australia or New Zealand. Sorry, the accents sound similar 😅

[@popmusiclover1000]

It's an incredible film. One of my favorites ever tbh.. But my theory is this, it has amazing characters, great development, an impactful and inspiring message but maybe just maybe because it was based around taking animals that's why it didn't stand out. Frozen had Olaf, a more original type of character but Idk for sure if that played a role because a film like The Lion King is still so talked about many years later. I also agree with your point about how it not being a musical impacted it's staying power. Musicals now have been selling good.. think of the Sing films so I agree with your point there too. Nonetheless, I just truly love Zootopia. It is a moving film with great animation and very important social messaging.

[@josefagomezschmeisser8356]

But the Furry fandom hasn’t forgotten yet, in 2018 with Beastars there was a lot of discussion about how each world managed the predator-pray situation and the overall the idealistic/ realistic world building and also fanarts crossover with Nick and Judy, and Haru and Legoshi

[@RoyalTy37]

Ngl it’s my favorite Disney movies 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@joeytansey8466]

Random hypothesis, since zootopia has a fraction of the merchandization that Frozen, Toys Story, Cars, the Incredibles, ect had, then 1. Disney is disincentifised from airing it as frequently vs movies which have the potential to increase merch sales 2. We aren't reminded of it because there aren't as many toys/branded cereals floating around to make us go "oh yeah that was a thing that happened"

[@keysburntgucci9016]

Zootopia is a such a great movie that I know all the cast and crews must be proud of being associated with it and would not hesitate to comeback for a sequel. And We already know from the creators that there were lots of ideas that didn't make it to the final movie - background stories, original plots, some additional characters, jokes, etc. So ofcourse I desperately want to see a Zootopia sequel, but I don't want one if it's just a cash-grab like Toy Story 4 or Frozen 2.

[@damongomez8220]

Now I know some people say that their getting sick and tired of the Disney characters falling in love, and they said that Judy and Nick should be friends, well I say, forget them! Judy and Nick’s relationship looks very amazing!! I mean this could be a good plot for the sequel, I really love to see a bunny and fox love story, I love to see Judy and Nick kiss, I love to see them as a couple, and I think their relationship could be a movie plot, with animals not liking their relationship, and in the end, Judy and Nick will get married, and tell everyone that anyone can fall in love.

[@MistarZtv]

i just assumed it was because disney didn't see is as franchiseable or marketable so they don't even bother bringing it up themselves, especially when you compare it to their merchandising licensing juggernauts like their princesses. Which not only makes big passive revenue but the properties is also super easy to convert into attractions and parks. as well as making it relatively easy for them to turn them into live action in the future so thats some future proving. likely why Raya got some flak from the South East Asian community as it really looked like it was a thinly veiled attempt to cash in on their culture without committing to anything, while theyre hiring almost exclusively east asian to do all the voices, songs, producing and etc. plus the themes of the movie is kinda dark and mature.

[@itzmemyselfandi4618]

I’m literally that kid who LOVES Zootopia so much I watch it everyday instead of doing my homework but like think about it I’m actually glad zootopia is not a musical cuz then most of the scenes from the original movie would have been cut off and I love every single scene from this movie and think of the story line of the movie u think a musical would even fit? No, that would just be awkward. But I say that more people need to appreciate this movie Zootopia deserves more

[@moraelity]

It’s because it’s pretty old now. Everything dies after a while if it’s not being added onto. Take any anime or game that had massive popularity and then it ended. They still have active fanbases but there’s nothing to talk about because it’s not got new canon content so eventually there will be nothing to talk about other than fanmade stuff. These things just don’t get talked about once it’s been rinsed dry of content. If Zootopia had a sequel or show, it would be talked about again

[@Jenozie99]

I dont know how i ended up here. KZbin algorithm I gues. But I just wanted to say that I thought Zootopia was a Pixar movie not Disney, so yeah the because its not a musical conclusion seems spot on to me.

[@professorbaxtercarelessdre1075]

you're probably right, hard to say, i don't know people that well, but i assume it not entirely feeling "Disney" while being made by them didn't help, same with Emporer's New Groove, idk if it being a musical is all it needed, and it wouldn't fit the tone of the film so it might've actually ruined it, its just one of those things i guess, though tbh, just my opinion, some of my favorite films in general don't have or need sequels, cause often sequels just aren't as good, or don't really add anything

[@Helaw0lf]

It was a good film when I saw it in theaters. Furry or not, it still is a decent film about societal issues and leaning to come together. Wish we could get a second film following up on the duo's work.

[@bookwormer9130]

One of the best animated films in my opinion. I think it would be worse if it became a musical movie, it's better as it is, so I'm sad that it's being forgotten because of something that would make it worse.

[@dragon_ninja_2186]

While I can see the angle of Zootopia not being a musical, if that really was the case then why isn’t every single kids movie one then? I push back on this because there are other animated kid films that aren’t musicals that are still talked about today like Toy Story, Tarzan, Lilo & Stich, etc. For me, maybe it’s because since the movie focuses on humanoid animals, unfortunately it’s immediately lumped into the furry community. Nothing against them but like it or not there is a stigma and some in the fanbase have taken some things too far.

[@eggy-potter]

I think zootopia is talked about. Quite a lot actually. But I think it’s found it’s place among other anthro films and shows and so is only really brought up when talking about them.