Why Does The Fastest Breath of Fire Speedrun Use An Easter Egg?

[@DoctorSwellman]

For those wondering what the rest of the names do, you can find out on the cutting room floor's BoF page! Link is at the bottom of this comment! Sorry for about not including the rest of these in the video, as there are no speedruns dedicated to those other files. tcrf.net/Breath_of_Fire#New_Game_Passwords

[@CBruceNL]

First time here and here for it! Thanks a bunch 🎉🎉

[@FernandoRafaelNogueiraReis]

Btw you CAN do that Easter Egg on emulator, you just have to bind the Player 2 buttons to one key or button and proceed normally from there, I remember messing around a bit with it on ZSNES, but ultimately opting to just play the whole game from start to finish.

[@Myriachan]

I found this cheat code while attempting to make a retranslation patch for the game. I was reverse engineering the name entry screen so I could modify it, and I saw code accessing controller 2. Nothing else in the game uses controller 2, so I pulled on the string and out came a cheat code.

[@EroneousWaylay]

I've had that happen with no less than 3 old shirts this week alone.

[@renakunisaki]

Nice. One of the first things I do when poking at a game's code is look for suspicious accesses to the controller, especially other than the first. That's how I found a very similar cheat in Star Fox Adventures. (But I think it's a debug tool rather than an Easter egg in that case.)

[@KainYusanagi]

@@renakunisaki More than likely these were debug tools too, that just weren't removed.

[@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny]

Liar.

[@Kurzov]

9:12 JFC. "Congratulations, you won!" Damn, that piece of internet nostalgia took me back places I hadn't been in a long time.

[@YayapLives]

All these street fighter names do different, interesting things. But Deej? _Deej_ is _nuts._

[@NarffetWerlz]

It's possible this code was a way for reviewers back in the day to see more of the game and its systems quickly to make deadlines. It still happens except the developers can completely remove the codes prior to release. Also, fun fact: Myria is Tyr's name in the Japanese versions.

[@ManillaHeep]

It's amazing to me how long some of these codes remain hidden, even with the disassembly tools that are out there. Capcom is notorious for this, thinking back to the Shin Akuma secret just discovered a couple years ago.

[@BJGvideos]

Shin Akuma secret?

[@derekcline950]

I wonder if easter eggs (or bugs in general) will be found more quickly in the future. Older code is notoriously hard to read. Back then, it made sense to use convoluted logic if it saved a byte; now, computational resources are plentiful enough that logical and legible code matters more. That and teams are larger (except for Indies, though they usually use existing, well documented, engines anyway). Does anyone have enough experience with disassembly tools to confirm or deny that newer code is generally easier to parse?

[@ManillaHeep]

@@BJGvideos kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHeVcpx9Z7KBaKs

[@enoyna1001]

Which secret???

[@Oshroth]

@@derekcline950 Depends on what language the code is written in. Unity games (and any other game engines using C#) are trivial to decompile back into the original code, so anything hidden in those games is really easy to find

[@SaltpeterTaffy]

0:48 It's a testament to how iconic Mario is that I can tell that is a Yoshi egg from the outline alone.

[@chaotickreg7024]

Good game design is recognizable immediately by its silhouette

[@SaltpeterTaffy]

@@chaotickreg7024 I don't think that idiom applies to the pattern of a Yoshi egg. I think the game's international fame is more attributable to that than the design of Super Mario World.

[@ferdgerbeler8494]

2:40 ohh wow, i had forgotten the villain's name, what a crazy cohenicedence, Guess i started the good fight against Zog a good 15 years earlier than i had thought..

[@nisbahmumtaz909]

dude, the audio popup for each song that plays is legit some of the BEST features even the most above-and-beyond youtubers don't put in it's such a game changer that definitely earned my sub, especially as a music enjoyer that can appreciate both credit AND source to the songs used

[@wildfireskunk]

Great video, more Breath of Fire content is always welcome! I hope it pushes a few more people into trying the speedrun :D

[@unclefred3128]

Happy birthday mate! -Bn

[@FernandoRafaelNogueiraReis]

I love BoF, hoping to see more of it on this channel! Some additions: there were more Clans on the Brood but Myria drove them to extinction via infighting. She wasn't sealed just by the Keys but a Light Dragon united with other Clans much like what you do in the first game. The Japanese name for the starting town is Dologany! The motivation for Ryu is actually going after his sister Sara that sacrificed herself, turning everyone to stone, protecting them from the fire, ended up being kidnapped and brainwashed by the second in command of the Zog Empire, called Judas.

[@MegaMasterX]

Your editing has come such a long way. Another fantastic video!

[@chrishunter9185]

I agree. It's some S-tier stuff

[@Viehzerrer]

I thought this would be about the appearance of Chun-Li and wondered how that could break the game. Well, it still had to do with Street Fighter.

[@SolstaceWinters]

"Turn around, you gotta trust me." > Yes | No

[@madProgenitorDeity]

I think that FFX song commonly gets called "To the End of the Abyss", one of my faves

[@Arucaado]

Thank you for calling him "Ree-yu" instead of "Rai-yu" like I've heard a lot of times

[@GeorgisTrying]

I love breath of fire, I'm legit here for any and all coverage. Plus, these videos are hella well crafted

[@SolstaceWinters]

M-maybe if we keep watching content about it, they-they'll notice and give us a proper game that isn't a mobile game? Right? Right?

[@KarmaJolt]

Your videos are great!

[@timothymclean]

0:11: Yyyyes. Directions. _That's_ why I talk to every NPC I come across. Sometimes multiple times, to see if they have more interesting dialogue. Directions! I meant directions.

[@unLuckyFetus]

First video I've watched after stumbling upon the channel and I must say, bravo! What an entertaining glimpse into a speedrun and series that many of us look back on so fondly, and that is definitely worthy of a resurrection. I sincerely look forward to your future work, ggs✌

[@alaskapla8210]

Do longer Videos! I'd love to see more of those games, the strats and how things work!

[@DoctorSwellman]

Longer projects are coming soon!These take a while to edit, so they’ve been scaled down as of late since I want to upload more than once every few months 😅

[@Atmapalazzo]

FF9 any% PSX = nine and a half hours to complete FF9 100% = heat death of the universe to complete

[@fullmetalgenesis]

Time Guess: 59:59, because technically correct is the best kind of correct

[@camwyn256]

Thank you, Doctor. You sure are swell, man, to put all your music used in the video right in the description

[@guydoesthings7580]

Symphony of the night also kinda has this If you input a special name Alucard will start with comically high luck but pitiful stats And if you take over half your health in damage you get launched until you hit a wall What you need to do Is take off your armor and get hit by an enemy in a specific place so they skip death and keep some of the best items in the game

[@ItsTrinton]

DeeJ% is fun, I don't think I submitted a time yet since I was hoping to sub hour first but I ran it in a couple marathons. Most of the other names aren't that fun but then, there is one: Ken % starts you a couple hours of effort in and takes about 3 hours to run. Very worthwhile and skips a bunch of the slow early game and it's a low RNG play through.

[@jeffcarr5284]

Yes! Breath of fire! My favorite rpg series. More of this please!

[@anonymuswere]

yes, I still have my BoF cartridge. amazing that the Switch port actually carried this code through. this was also recently discovered in, of all things, Gran Turismo 4 (with restrictions). it was so prominent, it got articles in car magazines. it seems to take 20 years after a game's release for people to get into the code and find this stuff. it seems, however, people only find this stuff using Emulators. In the states, it seems that there's plenty of the MEDIA floating around, but the HARDWARE (controllers, consoles, power cords, and AV connections ) are either missing or damaged and unrepairable.

[@DragonQuarter]

The Ryu artwork used in the video was from Breath of Fire II, not the first game (two different characters).

[@vladv5126]

Doesn't really matter though.

[@netorosa4539]

Thx for this (as aways!) amazing video, you are one of my favorite channels to really watch

[@lustfulmirage4885]

Been binging your speedrun content lately. Another good videos as always. Been meaning to play this game on my Switch, I do always enjoy speedruns of JRPGs.

[@ShadowGeo117]

I love the editing! Subbed!

[@Captain_Dark]

Mans left me on Twitch but boomed on YT i'm happy asf for you man

[@DoctorSwellman]

I'll stream again soon! (before the end of time)

[@kaiosekka]

Great video once again... finaly the breath of fire video is out so i dont need to be cookin anymore :D

[@Egryn]

The code down, R, X, Up, L,Y, B would make a tone at the beginning of MMX but I never figured out what it did. Has anyone ever tried putting that code into other capcom games? For SS2 Turbo it allowed you to boost the speed up to ten.

[@FrosHandle]

gotta love when the doc drops a new video, keep smacking it my guy!

[@doozer8445]

Been looking forward to your next video!! And BoF is what I'm trying to speedrun now! Thank you

[@dunhune]

I've seen your videos before. I'm guessing these madlads hit a record of like 35 mins.

[@dunhune]

Well...I was way off. Great video though.

[@klausklaus]

Fantastic video editing! Great content as well.

[@rphntw1n]

Wait, so that wasn’t discovered till 2013 and no one that worked on the game ever said anything about it? Wild.

[@azinyefantasy4445]

Do you want to openly brag that you added a cheat code to a game that beats it in an hour and someone posts it online? Hurting your sales greatly if you are still hired and are most likely still doing it?

[@Idran]

​@azinyefantasy4445 why would that hurt sales greatly? like, I legit can't think of a thought process that would make anyone go "Oh, there's a developer code that'd skip you to near the end of the game, I don't want to buy this anymore", let alone the majority of the audience Especially in the 90s when literally any JRPG on the SNES was basically an instaplay for JRPG fans

[@azinyefantasy4445]

@@Idran those were the days of movie gallery and blockbuster. The internet was still new granted but there is no telling how bad things could have been since it didn't happen during that time but what if. You also forgot in the future where stuff like this is still happening. Full games on demo discs. 1-3 hour skips cause of a glitch. Heck. We even gotten to the point where we literally will not buy a game till we watch a walkthrough of the first chapter. You might have grown up playing games to play them but some didn't.

[@BearsDenOneinVain]

IDK why I'm just now seeing your channel! Good shit brother!!!

[@theoogy8265]

Zog? Millions must speedrun

[@alphaotakux]

We must defeat zog

[@xx_SMKDG_xx]

My guess was 54 minutes. I honestly just watched this video for the first time as I was wondering if the there was a SR record.

[@noeditbookreviews]

Mystic quest music? That game did have some good songs.

[@DaleStrife]

I just started trying to run this. Awesome video!!

[@sagacious03]

Okay analysis video! Neat to hear about RPG strats! I wonder what the other save file names offer.... Thanks for uploading!

[@gwgux]

Huh, that's neat. I had no idea that was hidden in the game!

[@thenonexistinghero]

Rather than an easter egg, this seems more like a dev cheat for game testing so that you have various starting points to work with and won't need to play through the entire game just to test some mid-game and late-game stuff, for example.

[@enoyna1001]

Perhaps

[@AxelRyman]

Only thing I disliked about this was the use of Breath of Fire 2 Ryu instead of Breath of Fire 1 Ryu for some of the art. Had a feeling it was about the cheat code but its still an interesting choice just the same. Wonder if the other codes have dedicated run categories.

[@risersin7957]

Yes. Respectfully, this was my issue as well.

[@loginavoidence12]

ZOG is also the main antagonist of modern civilization, what a [coincidence]

[@MyNameisRevenant]

Is crazy that my childhood game has this and i never knew about it back then.

[@goblinbutler1313]

breath of fire more like pretty cool game series 😎

[@ShamanJeeves]

I remember wanting to play this game so badly after seeing it in Nintendo Power as a child. Almost 30 years have passed, and I still have never played it. You've reawakened the urge, and I think it's on NSO, so I guess it's finally time. Funny enough, my name is David Junior, but I go by D.J., and my friends call me Deej.

[@SolstaceWinters]

I can't recommend the series enough. They only get better and better from the first one (well BoF2 can be a little mneh in places, but the characters and story is strong). BoF3 and BoF4 are decidedly the strongest/fan favorites in the series. Mine's Breath of Fire 3. Sadly BoF3/4 are Playstation 1 games, and Breath of Fire 5: Dragon Quarter was a PS2 game.

[@LanEXHikari]

Hey Doc, thanks for such interesting video while keeping our childhood safe. I was guessing about 58:30, but I was kinda off 😅👍🏼

[@Nirakolov]

October 10th, 5:00 o'clock version!

[@MettanAtem]

I guessed a bit above 56 minutes, so I wasn't too far off. Personally I'd like to see a video about Breath of Fire 2, I have a good amount of nostalgia for that one.

[@Endarire]

Time to save the world in 15 minutes! Maybe!

[@leftysheppey]

I love breath of fire. One of my favourite video game series

[@silverwynd44]

so i tested the fei code which basically replays the demo, and not listed anywhere i can find you can move around and open your menu in some portions, and even go to other rooms (you have no character sprite) going into another room seems to break the sequence and soft lock the game though, i was able to do this specifically on the elevator scene even with text on the screen edit: that seems to be the only scene you can do it with, you can open your menu then close and gain control and go around talking to the soldiers, they dont say anything interesting though, they actually say what the towns people in the starting town say when the town is under attack

[@SpectrumTwist]

i'm only aware of one possible way to speed this up, and that limited to a.. i believe it's a relatively rare edition of the game that i had in my possession until my sister managed to get it stollen, though i'm certain i'm not the only one that had one. There seems to be more than one version of the japanese/NA edition of the game, one of which actually did ship with the debug drwarp item that was actually obtainable. A lot of mythis tended to point to the merchant mode in the 2nd tier and during the 90's i spent literally months on end doing it, think it was indeed a myth, but i'm not sure if it was a glitch or what, i made a point of saving after doing several runs usually resulting in a loss of money but occasionally making a profit while trying to get rare items at the same time, quite often it was garbage obviously and usually within 30 minutes you'd get all the variations and rare things, i was EXPECTING the drwrp to show up from some guy selling it, but i don't know wtf happened, i thought i had just another wasted numerous hours, i wasn't necessarily fully paying attention but when i exited the merchant area to leave the building, the moment i stepped outside to head to the save statue, i message popped up stating with a jingle that stated i received the drwrp, the tune you'd hear when you received a key or a major quest item. I proceeded to save first and then of course the first use of it i immediately bricked the game, of course i was able to reload and try again, but honestly at the time i didn't have a clue how to use it, keep in mind this is before i even had access to the internet, we're talking pre 1997, and frankly no idea whom to talk to, the only reason i knew anything about it is the huge poster that came with the game had it listed on there with a vague discription, add to this, i had only mentioned the game to a family member whom did have internet access and they were the ones that suggested that it may be a merchant only item that you have to be patient for. I'm sure if someone has decompiled the game, provided the right one, there's gotta be some explanation, I just know that there are usually some oddball copies of games some of which were first launch editions that had an error in it or a fault that was later resolved and then mass produced over the other initial ones. Much like Secret of mana initial version having some oddities that others weren't aware of. I had a lot of first edition games for nintendo that seemed to be slightly different than the more common ones that people seemed to have, or just different versions, TGL for example that no one on the internet seems to have the version i used to have (Stolen now)

[@thrusteavis]

Damn your editing is on point. Great video

[@matthewgagnon9426]

I'm guessing ten minutes. Price is Right rules.

[@dr4gonblitz]

this video is clearly GOATED with the SAUCE

[@gintatsu2946]

Swellman, you the best!

[@lindendrache8998]

I always wonder HOW anybody would find something like this by accident. But it must be while reverse engineering the code or taking the code apart. There is no other way anybody would find this. I think it was a left-over debugging method for the developers rather than an easter egg. Because easter eggs are somehow meant to be found.

[@Kyoslilmonster]

ANOTHER SWELLY BANGER

[@Siinory]

I'd say it'll take 52 minutes

[@K-H-28]

Loved the video. I really like your editing style. I just got the Switch Online virtual consoles. I'll have to check this out! Are there any other RPGs on them that you'd recommend?

[@mitchells2003]

Skip to 6:10 for the relevant information.

[@thelegendaryzoltan9628]

53:36!?!? That's only 24 seconds away from my guess! I deserve TWO cookies!

[@THEFRISKIESTDINGO]

Breath of Fire is a series about how racemixing ends the world lol

[@didymussumydid9726]

Chef’s kiss

[@TheApey]

What game is that at the 5:00 mark? It looks familiar.

[@DoctorSwellman]

Solar Eclipse! The clip was of the hidden developer level where you shoot down the dev team

[@Mrjacharles]

Still need play Breath of Fire haha :P but still pretty cool you made a video about this game :D

[@soundrogue4472]

7:46 let me guess; 15 minutes?

[@HeavenOnHigh]

How the hack do you need 200h for legend of dragoon? Oohh.. Max level... Okay carry one

[@LKVal]

Haven't finished the video, I have to guess.... 39 minutes. Maybe like 30 seconds for setup, at least 5 minutes for cutscenes/unskippable story segments, and the rest for the rest of the game?

[@KainYusanagi]

"Tyr" Her name is [ミリア ], which translates as Myria/Millia...

[@Kurzov]

Localization is hard lol

[@Caspicum]

what kind of sick freak amasses 200 hours in Legend of Dragoon? dude's slower than Kongol. also your editing is premo, son.

[@StepBaum]

Another super cool video :)

[@user-nj5cl6xs4n]

Ill speed run this video for yall, the point starts at 6:27.

[@CarissaNomadic]

My guess is... Either 15 or 30 minute

[@gabrielstrong7322]

“The fastest Breath of Fire Speedrun uses an… Easter egg?” Yes. So does the fastest MineCraft Speedrun.

[@raynmanshorts9275]

DeeJ? Nuts.

[@dragonicstarblade2049]

Why did Tyr cause this war of sorts?

[@decusq]

what happens if you type in the other names?

[@ThePerfectKiosk]

Sooo... the category involves using an endgame password and pretending it's a full run?

[@CptSpaceToaster]

I think it's cool that there was an obtuse secret code that lived on in the game for 20 years... but I agree... I think my expectations were set for some really obtuse glitch, strategy, and game breaking mechanic. "Type in code to skip to endgame, then play normally" doesn't really deliver on what I think I was hoping for when I first clicked on the video.

[@Buglin_Burger7878]

Welcome to speedrunning, it is all arbitrary and semantics. If enough people wanted there would be a "Start Button%" run as a legitimate thing. If that is good or bad depends on the person.

[@SolstaceWinters]

I'm not super thrilled about speedrunning, as I'd rather just... enjoy my game when I play it. But I do always find myself interested in the wacky ways people streamline portions of a game, and seeing one of my all-time favorite series come up, can't help but watch. The DeeJ name is interesting, but now I'm kinda curious where the other names set you. I may or may not have to try this. Bleu/Deis supremacy. Snek waifu for life. Breath of Fire 3 was always my favorite, but I grew up on BoF1. I do like BoF4 and even BoF5. And while I don't like it's music much, or the absurd encounter rate, BoF2 has a fun cast of characters and story. What I'm saying is, there is no true "bad" BoF title.... except that mobile trash cash grab. That crap can rot in hell. It's why the series is basically dead now. (It, and BoF5's poor sales, if I'm honest. I still like BoF5 though.)

[@ramgladore]

Too bad this trick won't work on any mobile versions where ya have only one set of controls

[@bobbycorwen]

@300 what is this game?!

[@DoctorSwellman]

Solar Eclipse, also known as Titan Wars in other parts of the world

[@edwardkruse1820]

FFX music. 🥳

[@Chernobog2]

Is there any reason why this wouldn't work on the Wii U version of the game?

[@DragonQuarter]

It works. There is a video from 2015 talking about this cheat code. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5bNXpqFnZqpf8k

[@jaimereupert4247]

How do you do the code on the switch if you only have one console?

[@DoctorSwellman]

2 player mode with 2 controllers while docked, or you can use the joycons while docked or undocked

[@jaimereupert4247]

@DoctorSwellman I only have 1 switch. Don't have multiple joycons, just the 2 that came with the system.

[@DoctorSwellman]

@@jaimereupert4247 You can separate those two into two controllers, that's how I did it!

[@jaimereupert4247]

@@DoctorSwellman I'll try that when I get home.

[@AtomskTheMynahBird]

Are they Speedrun of Lufia?

[@Guedez1]

Deej these nuts

[@ls190v2]

So awesome.

[@grahamtek]

50 minits

[@lt.mouse1485]

You really know how to make a drawn out video for a topic so straight forward.

[@dmann1982]

What about the GBA version of BOF?

[@thelegendaryzoltan9628]

The video is paused at 7:57. I'm gonna say 54 minutes.

[@thelegendaryzoltan9628]

Holy crap! The time was 55:30!? I was only 1:30 off! Please reply with information on how I can receive my cookie.

[@Crono1973]

How is skipping most of the game considered a valid speedrun?

[@DAWGITCOUNTYFOREVER]

mainsplained what an easter egg is for half the vid