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[@Zipa7]

Gotta love how the people that come up with these brackets don't take into account people who populate their other PCI slots.

[@biggityboggityboo8775]

I think the point is that with most PCI cards you should be able to install them first and then put this support bracket over them?

[@Real-Name..Maqavoy]

Ikr? Its my constant issue with these Companies. It drives me nutz...!

[@skagerstrom]

There are plenty of solutions that don't cover the slots, for the very minimal number of people that have more than the graphics card.

[@spankbuda5760]

Jay: "Fix your GPU sag by using the PC slot covers." Asus: "Holdera my Beer?!?!"

[@MikeS42069]

Holdera LMAOO

[@NCXDesigns]

When he read that on the box I was thinking it was a knock off

[@SpaceRanger187]

just cut a pencil

[@amyfreiermuht5714]

@@NCXDesigns its spanish

[@LautaroQ2812]

Holdera is the new Asus Warzone map

[@marksadler4457]

Bad business idea: fixing it costs US money, selling them a fix costs THEM money - win for the card maker!!!! I still remember people having pride in their work!

[@Reac2]

The reasoning of that doesn't even make sense. A fix would cost like 1 dollar per card, which is irrelevant in the 200+ dollar price range. The problem isn't greed, they just don't care enough. Never attribute to greed what you can attribute to incompetence

[@Hypnodog_]

@@Reac2 They can save $1 (probably less) per card while at the same time making MORE money by selling an accessory. They know exactly what they're doing.

[@neondemon5137]

@@Hypnodog_ Yeah, I'm sure they did nothing for 10 years and just pushed out a fix now because reasons.

[@steveqi9309]

@@Reac2 It’s not about how much money they’re saving, it’s about having the ability to sell the customer a fix.

[@zaxmaxlax]

They won't change the design and tooling for the cards they're making for years. By the way, the margins on the cards is so low to AIBs that they resort to do stupid things like selling triple fans 3060s just to increase their margins.

[@mattburgon8312]

This is a classic problem of companies creating an issue (ie GPU sag) and then selling a fix for it (ie a anti-sag bracket), when they could so easily build the extra reinforcement required into the card. Corporate greed at its finest 👍

[@msiprintsanddesigns5530]

Congratulations👆 You won🎁

[@khaoticpenguin3945]

Especially since they essentially cut out that piece to shape the bracket anyway so they could have just left in more material and they'd operate at a less of a material loss.

[@Trifler500]

I imagine it would also help if the card manufacturers extended the 2-slot cover to a 3-slot cover, since the card occupies three slots anyway.

[@PureRushXevus]

Yep! I've always wanted wondered why these 3-4 slot cards still only have 2 slots.. gimme more ports while they're at it too haha, 2/8 slots being used on my case :p

[@kaseyboles30]

In case no one has warned you yet Jay, that glow in the dark filament will rapidly erode the nozzle on your printer if it's a standard brass or even worse copper. Hardened steel will last longer with it. Glow in the dark is VERY abrasive. Keep an eye on the nozzle (keep a spare new nozzle to check against), both the tip and the hole.

[@angelicsailor1st]

@suspicionofdeceit costs less in the long run to get a “heavy duty” nozzle then to keep replaces them every few weeks with a cheap one plus it really sucks for them to not work ruin a build or you don’t have a replacement nozzle and have to wait to get one Learn from our mistakes

[@SpaceRanger187]

It should come with every card for free, what a bunch of bs

[@kaseyboles30]

@suspicionofdeceit Jay's new to this and just how fast GITD filament will destroy a nozzle can come as a surprise even if you know it's abrasive compared to almost every other filament. Don't know if Jay is aware of it or not.

[@CanadianMakerProject]

TBH i doute Jay reads comments for the Maker commuinty. there is one point he missed ...PLA is not the filament i woud go with. It Cheap but due to it's glass temp being near 60 C it could melt and be more bad then good. I would use PETG or ABS. PETG and ABS have a higher glass temp and would do a better job of standing up and would not break as easy too.

[@jhughesca5]

Why by a steel nozzle, when you can buy a ruby nozzle

[@OOZ662]

I might be okay with paying $10 or $15 for that off Amazon, given the lighting and "brand customization" that it comes with. $99 made me genuinely laugh as soon as my brain had time to verify that was really what was said.

[@The_Man_In_Red]

Not being very interested in aesthetics I opted to daisy chain some zip ties to the top of my case and the bottom one just barely slides around the 8pin with the perfect amount of tension. It's hobo but it works 🤷

[@even1313]

I got a similar bracket off of amazon last week for $8. Granted it doesn't have rgb but it's also not $40 for the corsair one or worse $99 for this asus one.

[@GhostShip94]

Its ridiculous even if it were 2 dollars. Even if it came with the card for no extra money.

[@OOZ662]

@@GhostShip94 I dunno, I wouldn't mind having it for my setup.

[@zzz-vd5rp]

Asus tax bro

[@DrMuFFinMan]

I think the word your looking for is "Cash Grab", they create the problem and then provide a solution for extra monetary compensation. Super happy to see you doing stuff with the 3d printer, can't wait for you to do more and maybe some 3d slicer tutorials and what not once your comfortable enough with the process.

[@neosmith80]

you're, not your you + are = you're i think the word you are looking for.... i think the word you're looking for...

[@burrfoottopknot]

@@neosmith80 I think you could go outside and get some fresh air, You must be up late at night fixing everyones typos on the interwebz

[@luigiistcrazy]

​@@neosmith80 tri ficsing mi taypos

[@blakslee720]

Like apple with the lightning to 3.5mm adapter

[@zCaptainz]

I love how he can't bring himself to say "This is shit, don't buy, it's pointless and a money-grab" Just goes to show how much they rely on brands to keep their business going. And how little criticism they can push out... Instead of flatout saying "don't buy", he just goes around in circles to not call out bullshit

[@bartender_billy6229]

I don’t actually have an issue with this. If you’re never gonna have another card populating the other pcie slots, this product will cover up any wiring and empty slots at the bottom of the case. I definitely understand that it’s a very niche use case, but there are some that may be able to benefit from this. HOWEVER, price is a huge factor, and at $99, it’s way to expensive for a piece of acrylic and metal that light up.

[@hazel-vf7on]

Reminds me of something Apple published at the cost of a computer that was meant to do something similar as this but to the monitor..... 😂

[@shanks2872]

@@hazel-vf7on The famous $999.99 monitor stand.

[@bradyarsenault4126]

can easily find them that are less tacky looking and like $15-25 i have an EZ brand one from amazon works perfectly for my case

[@khaoticpenguin3945]

@@hazel-vf7on you mean like they don't give you a charger anymore either and force you to purchase one?

[@HectaSpyrit]

@@khaoticpenguin3945 Well not including chargers with every new device does make a lot of sense. Given how often people replace their devices, especially phones, it's very likely that they already own at least one charger, if not multiple ones. Excluding them from packaging saves most customers the cost of a charger that they already have, and it means one less electronic device that will end up as e-waste at the end of its life. I don't know how Apple does it since they always do their own thing, but I'd be surprised if the charging port changes with every new iPhone. As far as I know they've been using lightning for a while. As for other brands, almost all of them use either micro-USB or USB-C for charging, both of which are so ubiquitous that most people already own many cables, and probably a few charging bricks. Finally, even if you don't own a charger and have to buy one separately, it's not gonna cost you much more than if it was included with your device, because the price of the bundle would include the price of the charger.

[@pootispiker2866]

The bracket I got for my 3070 ft3 ultra was just a piece of aluminum that screwed in to the case on the gpu mount. No RGB or access blocking acrylic, just a piece of metal.

[@dotEXCEI_]

Classic case of: Create a Problem, sell the solution

[@msiprintsanddesigns5530]

Congratulations👆 You won🎁

[@rporter996]

If you 3dprint that bracket standing up instead of flat on the bed that'll also help with the "cracking youre getting" Its splitting on the layer lines so if you were to print it in a different orientation that would help that issue quite a bit. :)

[@thanos3814]

he's a fraud

[@CouchMan88]

Takes quite a bit longer to print but yes. Or you can even print while they are at an angle 30-45 degrees.

[@tomppeli.]

@@thanos3814 to be honest, I'd argue that something that has that many emoji on it is usually fraudulent

[@thanos3814]

@@tomppeli. He doesn't even use the official account😂

[@jorrdanna6219]

It's cracking on a layer line. Printing that thicker may help, but I'd rotate it 90 degrees in the slicer (so it looks like the letter " L " if you look straight down on it on the build plate,) and print it like that. That will for sure solve the cracking problem. Turning up the hot end temperature a couple degrees might also help with layer adhesion, but that looks like a decent print. It's worth experimenting a bit, but first thing I'd try is to rotate it.

[@michaelhillpot]

This👆

[@zaphod4245]

My favourite anti sag thing is the Lian Li GB-001, that screws into the motherboard standoffs and holds the GPU up from behind, Like it because once the GPU is in you can't even see the bracket as it's between the GPU and the MoBo. And its only like £10 as it's just a small piece of metal and a few screws

[@a-wingsgaming9162]

My motherboard has a heatspreader for the m.2 slot located on top of where the standoff is. Wish I could have taken advantage of this

[@superflyguy4488]

I use a thin piece of aluminium tube as a leg supporting the right hand outer corner, works a treat and looks pretty good as well.

[@tetsuoshema]

The Lian Li Gb-001 is an interesting solution as it mounts to the motherboard stand offs and hides behind the video card.

[@Jay_the_Caffeinator]

And it is all metal. Too bad that kind of solution doesn't come with motherboards these days.

[@angelicsailor1st]

It’s also not $99

[@jonathanstevens7004]

@@angelicsailor1st 99 DOLLARS?! I was looking at it for a second to hide my hard drive mount that's in an expansion slot, but that's like a 40 dollar at most deal, holy bajeezus. E: I have the GB001 and am using it, and I would probably use it alongside this for extra support

[@yvesheinrich5013]

@@jonathanstevens7004 A freaking case fan costs $10 on average, if not less.

[@Skhmt]

@@Jay_the_Caffeinator The Fractal Torrent Compact (and I assume the Torrent as well) come with an anti-sag bracket.

[@Phantix.]

What would be great if we as a community could compile the spacing size for each variation of card into one big spreadsheet so that we don't need to guess when trying to source and order the prints online.

[@Miko_of_the_North]

Also cases and shops that will make em for us

[@kurizma]

Or just get an EVGA card

[@bakut3n524]

Hey Jay what about making those edges and selling them on your mech store? I’d gladly buy an assortment of different thicknesses from you instead of supporting the GPU manufacturer by buying their support for a product they decided to design incorrectly. Yes, no, maybe so?

[@ZeroB4NG]

i'll pay $20 if it has RGB.

[@reed-young]

@@ZeroB4NG I'll pay $30 if it doesn't!

[@ZeroB4NG]

@@reed-young ...one question that bugs me the entire time, Amazon now owns Stargate, does that make you an Amazon employee?

[@reed-young]

@@ZeroB4NG What "entire time" do you mean, Zero?

[@the_bishop]

Not crazy about the idea of introducing a lateral load to the cooler that it's not meant to support by jamming shims in there. The main issue is that the cards are getting longer and heavier, and the architecture they're plugging into was never designed to handle that sort of weight. It's a flat plane supported on two (more like 1 and 1/2) adjacent sides. It can't help but to sag unless you support the opposite corner. Stacking spacers under the rear case mount doesn't fix the sag, it just 'pre cocks' the board so it doesn't visually look like it's sagging when the case is standing up.

[@salmon_wine]

exactly. This is why the slot-bracket design is very ineffective versus the free standing gpu sag bracket which by far fixes the issue best. I paid $20 for a vertical argb gpu bracket from vetroo- and it's good enough at it's job that i initially had it set too high, and was bending the card in the opposite direction as the sag!

[@usefulidiot21]

I don't think that's introducing a lateral load to the cooler by jamming shims in there. That lateral load already exists and the shims just slightly change the angle of it (by making the card perpendicular to the motherboard, instead of it sagging in a corner). So, as long as your case isn't being moved around, this would be fine since it removes the bend from the PCIe connector, which seems to be the most important part of removing sag (the metal reinforced PCIe connectors are definitely strong enough to handle this). Either way, I still have a metal bracket that supports the far corner of my 3080 from sagging, but I wouldn't be opposed to this solution.

[@ThisSteveGuy]

I just resorted to tying a thin, black string around the power cables and then it goes up to the top of the case. I forget it's even there, it's so unnoticeable, and it basically cost nothing.

[@CybrJames]

I think this is brilliant. You should sell like a 4 pack with different sizes. Great video.

[@johnthegiant320]

The files will be on the merch page for $5... FTW ( For The Win ... of course)

[@bootchoo96]

They could fix the sag, but instead they sell you a 100$ plastic holder...

[@riothero313]

Pretty soon cards will come with a little kickstand that folds out like a motorcycle.

[@x1marcpamx]

Honestly your take on how to fix GPU sag is 100% better in both functionality and aesthetically better!

[@msiprintsanddesigns5530]

Congratulations👆 You won🎁

[@ColJonSquall1]

So does that mean, we'll have JTC branded GPU bracket supports in the future?

[@jondonnelly3]

I'd buy one, it would look great.

[@sea7551]

I love your solution, but please be careful putting pla directly up against the heatpipes, pla starts to get soft at ~60°C and depending on the gpu, cooler and case i don’t doubt that the heatpipe can reach that. Supporting the shroud should ofc be just fine.

[@phillipgerringer9822]

I was thinking the same thing. I love the 3d printed supporting "shunt" in idea but wonder if the shunt would melt from the heat. Actually I should change "wonder" to "expect".

[@sea7551]

@@phillipgerringer9822 If it's just against the shroud it really shouldn't, but directly against the heatpipe on hotter cards like (probably) 3080 upwards i'd seriously get worried about it starting to melt

[@Mad-Lad-Chad]

@@phillipgerringer9822 I mean the idea is still sound, just PLA is a bad material choice for long term use here. There are filaments that have way higher melting points he could use for this instead that would solve this issue.

[@phillipgerringer9822]

@@Mad-Lad-Chad That makes sense. I don't know much about filament except for what I've seen about people having problems making things that end up melting. Is there a filament that has a melting point that would exceed a GPU heat pipe? If there is then it seems this fix would be perfect for all situations.

[@Mad-Lad-Chad]

@@phillipgerringer9822 I'm far from an expert (I'm a beginner, just have recently been diggin' into filament types) but ABS filament should work well. Nothing is as easy to work with as PLA, since the low melting point is what makes PLA so easy to work with. ABS doesn't even begin to soften until 105 Celsius and doesn't melt until 220 - 230 Celsius. It can be printed on standard home 3d printers, though is a little more finicky and so requires a little more experience. But not much. It's a standard filament that is incredibly common to use.

[@WreckDiver99]

Change your print orientation instead. Print this on edge instead of flat. Then the layers will be horizontal and thus giving you more strength. Also, walls above infill.

[@ogPRAT]

already 5 seconds in and I'm having a mild panic attack moving the GPU like that lol

[@mikerzisu9508]

Right??? Rip pci-e slot

[@graxx2805]

I don't think it is going to break the PCI slot instantaneously, but indeed it is not a good habit to show to less experienced viewers lol

[@OtakuReborn]

Isn't this assuming that your PCI-E slots puts the card with exactly three expansion slots below it? What if I only have 2, or if I have 5 slots? Either way, potentially losing access to three expansion slots to do this makes this a bit of a nonstarter. That it costs $99 is crazy.

[@rfrbz1269]

The real point is that card manufacturers could just fix the problem by reinforcing the brackets against the coolers.

[@Matty.Hill_87]

@@rfrbz1269 more money to be made in creating a fix for their intentional bad design

[@BURN447]

Let's be real. this product is designed for the people who have more money than they have sense. People who have 3090 Strix cards (Myself included) are likely not too worried about a $100 price tag on something that's optional. It likely won't sell that many, but I can see how it'd be useful for some specific builds

[@mikerzisu9508]

As long as you have a solid card with good support and the case doesn't suck, and the card's backplate is solid, you don't need something like this

[@frankspace34]

@@mikerzisu9508 this is not a need. It’s a want. An extra touch of ROG and I love it! 😆

[@mikerzisu9508]

@@frankspace34 I love it and hate it at the same time. It is big and excessive, but I do like the rog logo. If they made it in white I would consider getting it for my all white build

[@fluidparadigms6719]

You also might be able to put a set screw through one of the brackets and hold it in place with a couple of jam nuts (kind of the same way you'd set the idle on a throttle body).

[@YOEL_44]

And this is one of the reasons why I use a horizontal cube case, I can see the face of the card without having to deal with sag and weird fixes and it can be even easier to maintain as I can take the whole mobo assembly out with a few screws

[@kevincardenas8855]

Same here. Rocking a Thermaltake core v21 and i love it

[@MitgliedT5]

i have a inverted case, and this kind of dont create sag (because the pcb is now the stress holder and it is attached to the case i guess)

[@miniskunk]

Why not a wood dowel cut to size to support the card from underneath on the right side instead? You can color it to match the case color theme.

[@wayland7150]

They sell an adjustable 'acro jack' for lots of money like that.

[@HumourMeAgain]

Or I heard for free get a stick, cut to length. Trouble is when I looked I just could not find a fully adjustable RGB stick in any popular online store. These so called 'sticks' are just a myth.

[@nathanswartz2258]

I like my gpu support bracket from Lian li. It just screws into two of the motherboard standoffs and has a little adjustable shelf. Works great, and barely noticeable.

[@paw3lo87]

I have it with 3080 aorus and it still sags a little

[@Kvantum]

That works great... unless your motherboard armor covers up one of the holes you'd use for it. Thanks X570 Dark Hero + O11 D XL!

[@nichenetwork9817]

Shouldn't exist is the issue....

[@greenmonalisa]

Up here has a magnetic support bar that is by far the best idea I've found. I've put this bracket in 3 different builds so I far

[@msiprintsanddesigns5530]

Congratulations👆 You won🎁.

[@stealthninja1o112]

That is one thing I really like about AMD's 6000 series reference cards, they dont sag.

[@horkus_pronkus8469]

i used the zipties that came with my case to hang a chain from the top. it looks scuffed as hell and i love it

[@Bluelagoonstudios]

Seems more legit, than the "E-leach" holder with the 3090Ti . Thanks for the convenient fix idea with the multiple slots. That's why I love this channel. Cheers Jay.

[@fraserf88]

In the case of some of those cards, the PLA spacer appears to be in direct contact with a heatpipe. While one of those heatpipes will never reach nozzle temperature where PLA melts, it could potentially achieve the bed temp under load (depending on what that heatpipe goes to). This could cause the part to warp, or the heatpipe to embed in the part. This probably wouldn't be an issue on all cards, but could be for some. This could obviously be fixed by using a more temperature resistant plastic, or metal like you showed before with the case brackets. Great video! I think there is room for a v3 design, where you cut the center out of a case bracket, and use it as a frame. Then make different thicknesses of plexi shims and edge light them. You could even laser etch logos or your name on the plexi for a custom illuminated label visible from the back of the case.

[@BoltRM]

Nylon shims from home hardware store or even trim a piece of wood ?

[@MishkaOliver]

Could print in PETG which has higher thermal limit and still easily printed on standard 3d printers and thats before getting into weird and wonderful exotic filaments :D

[@Alex-zi1nb]

“What’s your game” - the catch phrase so nice they said it twice

[@nevermind4328]

You could drill through the stacking if you were using the case brackets for the screw to pass thru.

[@pootmahgoots8482]

It exists purely to hurt your feelings. 06:40 got me thinking you were saying "wort wort wort". Maybe this is a solution for people who already bought Strix cards that are suffering from dreaded GPU sag and Asus is like "here fren. Take dis. That'll be $100 btw"

[@msiprintsanddesigns5530]

Congratulations👆 You won🎁..

[@diabloO5O189]

I had got an arm like that one for my Asus 1080 TI and like a week later it slipped and broke 2 blades off the 3rd fan. Found out that a Bic lighter makes a much better GPU stand and it looks better.

[@msiprintsanddesigns5530]

Congratulations👆 You won🎁.

[@ofcatarina]

The rog one looks really cool I think. I could see myself using it purely for aesthetics if it cost like maybe 25 - 30 dollars tops. But that price is way off mark.

[@msiprintsanddesigns5530]

Congratulations👆 You won🎁.

[@ChBi89]

Laser engraving the acrylic would be sick, you can do whatever style you like :)

[@PhotonHerald]

Even using the free extra expansion slot covers. 1: Find out however many you need to prop the card. 2: Cut the screw tabs off all but one. Recommend taking a file afterwards to smooth the cut ends. 3: Super-glue/epoxy them all together with the tab being the "bottom"-most one. 4: Paint the thing so you don't have bare metal edges showing. Unless they're stainless/chromed.

[@lyrebird712]

This is awesome. I was actually thinking of making some printing prototypes and asking a friend to print them for a custom hard drive cage. I've expanded to the point where my little mid-tower is too small for all the crap I have running through it. Already have a network card running in my last slot and my 2nd will eventually have another gpu so I can do some pass through on Linux. I am lucky with the bracket on my 2070 because I don't seem to have any sag, but if I had to solve that issue then the massive wing wouldn't work with my setup anyway. I love these DIY fixes.

[@Dennzer1]

[@TomGreen99]

STOP PICKING AT IT!!

[@msiprintsanddesigns5530]

Congratulations👆 You won🎁....

[@Jousten16]

I've seen this wingwall GPU holder go for 75 EUR here so it should come in at around 80 USD including taxes, probably cheaper as US sales tax is lower I think. Still a lot of money but I guess people who buy this product are also getting it for the aesthetic and RGB. Funnily enough, my current RTX 3080 phantom has barely any sag (at least not noticeable by eye) and even my old Asus strix 1070 TI had quite some sag.

[@Jyggalag]

Still, the one from Cooler Master is like 35 bucks on Amazon. And it's vertical so you can put it on the end of the GPU, which lets you show off your additional expansion cards that Jay talked about if you want to or, given that I'm pretty sure it's a Corsair case, mount SATA SSDs on top of the PSU cage if you have a lot of lighting/fan controllers behind the motherboard tray and can't use the mounting options there.

[@CURTSNIPER]

not to mention the person who has a functional use for this on top of its aesthetic, can afford it as it helps HEAVY expensive cards

[@XoneFobic]

Other than using PLA on a location that might become a lot warmer than like 40-50 degree C, Jay's solution is 100 times better than what manufacturers come with. And should also cost next to nothing if they just fixed the issue in their designs to begin with. Like building a car with a big Dodge Demon engine, and then use a drift shaft from a 90 HP civic and then wonder why things break.

[@linuxgurugamer]

Just got a XTX 7900 XT, it both had a full bracket and came with it's own support bracket. Very cool

[@jackykoning]

Be very careful with 3d printed stuff and GPUs. Those heatpipes can get really hot. You would need stuff that can handle the heat.

[@Narcle0]

To add on to this: PLA will deform in a hot car (know from personal experience). I've switched to PETG seems to handle it better, but I don't have Florida/Texas heat.

[@ComputingCactus]

I avoided this by getting a vertical mount for my p400a case cause it was much cheaper and better looking than any of the budget braces.

[@bradhaines3142]

my next pc im definitely doing vertical mount. but id also put it 90 degrees off next to the motherboard so you can see the chungus in all its glory

[@fastfed]

@@bradhaines3142 Or.. just get a case that doesn't have everything vertical like that, my case which is the best IMO, my MOBO sits nice and FLAT, like my desk, stupid design having boards sit the way they do

[@angelicsailor1st]

@@fastfed what case is that

[@Jelpronir]

Same. Bye sag.

[@iCantEscapeYou]

I'll admit this is a champagne problem but... I think this fixes the sag issue but it also fixes the empty space in a case issue and of course with an RGB. $100 is excessive and I think $50 is a better price.

[@Locutus494]

Yeah, this could actually be useful if you have a small mini-ITX or micro-ATX motherboard in an ATX case. It could hide the empty space below the motherboard.

[@jondonnelly3]

There are cheaper brackets, ROG is just a brand.

[@angelicsailor1st]

A figurine is way more aesthetically pleasing and works better

[@hyperseah]

I got my Aorus GPU holder for US$15. aRGB and everything.

[@Eyeofnelms]

I bought something similar from UpHere and I didn't buy it to hold up the Graphics card. I bought it so I could cover up the fact that my Mobo was microATX in an ATX case.

[@theRemedyGames]

My "founders" Radeon 6800xt sits perfectly perpendicular in the case. Zero brackets. Why? The card is rigid all the way around. Jay is 100% right that this issue is only a thing because AIBs are skipping some extremely important steps when designing the whole of a card.

[@ki4tlf]

I'd assume you could lay the case on it's back, then install the GPU support on top of the backplane covers instead of removing them.

[@jondonnelly3]

U can yes.

[@ErimlRGG]

"Doesn't this feel a little extra?" says the man that builds in gigantic cases with custom loops, a display for temps and fps and got a 3d printer to mod his case even more and has 2 custom painted Star wars themed modded pcs

[@ilenastarbreeze4978]

I mean if he says it after all that then yea ..

[@edwingoddard4335]

Follow up idea, show us how you made the model for the printed fix? I for one would be interested in that.

[@bite-sizedshorts9635]

Simple fix: Cut a stick to the right length and put it under the sagging end of the GPU to hold it up. Zero cost.

[@sL1NK]

I recently built a PC for my sister-in-law, and used your cover bracket stacking technique. As you mentioned, screwing them back in was impossible, so i cuit the L shapes off the end and electrical tape'd 2 extra cut ones to 1 normal. It was enough tick to support a TUF 3060 and the sag was gone!

[@wayland7150]

It's very sad that these expensive GPUs are not built as well as they were two generations back.

[@salmon_wine]

@@wayland7150 my all-white asus dual 1070 oc even has gpu sag- and it's a twin fan cooler! this issue is the endpoint of the current era of gpu air cooler design

[@wayland7150]

@@salmon_wine In those days they at least tried. The cards Jay was showing had the same physical strength as a network card.

[@salmon_wine]

@@wayland7150 I have this card in my personal gaming rig and it actually feels a lot sturdier than my ROG Strix RX 570 OC

[@salmon_wine]

@@wayland7150 then again... Asus ain't exactly kind to their AMD GPUs

[@DrkKnightSlayer]

I can see this as a viable way to fill out a larger case. If you have a mid tower case and an ITX or mini ATX board, that bar would be an alright option (a better option if it were around $50)

[@alb9022]

People like you are why our industries are going to shit.

[@reviewforthetube6485]

You are the only pc youtubers I trust anymore! The only one to tell us the equipment we have just because something new comes out doesn't make ours bad. You aren't all about oh wait wait make sure you buy the 4000 as nothing else is good! It's literally like every youtuber doesn't even realize what they are doing. Thank god we have channels like yours!

[@msiprintsanddesigns5530]

Congratulations👆 You won🎁...

[@khaychi]

Introduce a problem (gpu sag). Then we sell you back the solution at ridiculous prices. Genius. *-ASUS*

[@Baryl83]

Bought PNY Revel Epic-x XLR8 3070ti and it's rock stiff. I do not expect any sag issue over time. Top is made of solid aluminum plate.

[@trxrevo10]

Lian Li has a Gpu support that they include in the box with the o11 Evo. It mounts to the motherboard and works amazingly, you can also pick it up as a stand alone part

[@lagpi]

Lian li GB 001 ? Works good with lian li cases, works with my lancool mesh 2 RGB, doesn't work though, with a corsair case cause of the included standoff screw threads being too thin to go inside the standoffs on corsair case

[@EinnyenJM]

And i think the Lian Li option is $20 or less.

[@trxrevo10]

@@lagpi oh yea never thought about that issue, but if you have a case it works in. It's great and far better then most of these over priced gpu support bracket/stands lol

[@cael_1303]

It's amazing how something as simple as a reverse bracket could fix the problem, but RGB!!!. A company could fix the problem but I think a fear is that something so cheap wouldn't sell as much. I would buy that for any card that sagged and I have no intention of buying a strix card or any card over $330 and I'd rather not have to spend that much for a new gpu. My current card sags, but it's only not noticeable because it doesn't have a beefy cooler on it, and it's about seven years old.

[@thanos3814]

he's a fraud

[@TimModrzejewski]

7.03 "this feels..." this feels like companies asked, how can we make the consumer pay for our mistakes? Instead of fixing the issues, they create another product for use to buy and fix the problem they caused.

[@Lexxicon13]

pretty sure it's been suggested but maybe you should solve the snapping problem and then sell them. naturally $0.03 is a wee bit too cheap to bother shipping it so you should make a 10-pack (or 20) of various sizes. sell it for $10+ shipping. worst case they can also just be used as filler bits for when people inevitably lose those things from their case or like you showed they can be used as accent color inserts.

[@kurtklaus6334]

Stick those on your merch store! I would buy those in a heartbeat! A little revision to beef it up as you said, patent it ( :D ), and off to the races! Then again, your 3D printer would probably see some heavy use and the shims would most likely be sold out all the time. :) My MSI 3080ti Ventus came with an arm, but I your idea is a more logical choice from an aesthetics and price point (you can allocate money to other parts!) for those GPUs w/o included arms.

[@anunakkii562]

i used 2 pci slot covers that i modified it into an bracket to hold the end of the gpu, top to bottom, works out great

[@kyoudaiken]

Those thicker bracket covers would be really nice when made out of thick stainless steel!

[@JCat007x1]

$99 for a product that fixes an issue that shouldn't even be an issue in the first place.. uh no thanks

[@foamysking]

The clear one is handy to have if you have a laser to put a custom design on it

[@xDIGITONIUMx]

Antec Graphics Card GPU Brace Support is my favorite as it doesn't seem to ruin aesthetics. Using it with my EVGA 3080 Ti and Corsair 4000D case.

[@DeckDogs4Life]

I will say that EVGA seems to have done a great job with the 3080 Ti with it's support. I have the FTW3 and it has very little sag, if any at all. Pretty stable card. My 1080 Ti SC2 had about the same amount of sag as this much larger card, which was basically none.

[@kevmcl4258]

Glad you (sort of) acknowledged the price of the printer as well as the material. I have no issue with 3d printing as a hobby, or as a talking point for content etc. but I think some people genuinely think 3d printing is a cost effective solution to minor issues like this bracket or a doorstop or some other small item you would only ever need 1 or 2 of

[@msiprintsanddesigns5530]

Congratulations👆 You won🎁

[@Retadin]

V1 tech sells custom brackets such as these. I have been trying to decide on one, for awhile now.

[@-21-mods57]

I saw a pretty neat GPU sag holder or what ever they are called, with a small LCD screen that could show temps and usage etc.

[@Aprici6892]

I just use a rubber door stopper angled off the top of my psu shroud, works perfect.

[@111nyg]

i have this issue as well recently my triple fan card is too heavy and it bends the socket by a bit. I just some use sort of plastic doll, stuck it in to balance the weight and support it🤣

[@saulzg7]

i have the one from cooler master, it looks cool and you dont have to take any brackets

[@TheNiteNinja19]

I thought about getting an RGB sag bracket at one time, but it's much nicer to just vertical Mount your graphics card instead. I had an azza Genesis 9000 super tower case once, that had dedicated sag bracket rails built into the case, that was actually kind of nice.

[@Lord_Legolas_Greenleaf]

The way your constantly bouncing the card, I feel bad for that PCI slot. This happened to me with the 970's and I did use the bracket method.

[@alangarde2928]

I really like the Sapphire 6950 X Ntro+ Pure design with actual square frame on the base plate and the fan shroud wrapping around the connectors and side (but not obstructing air flow). It even looks cleaner by surrounding the PCB edge. It's totally possible to include it in the design aesthetic, especially on higher end cards.

[@msiprintsanddesigns5530]

Congratulations👆 You won🎁

[@joshuad6553]

I imagine someone buying this thing as sort of bragging rights. "Look at the extra support needed for my massive GPU balls." I expect someone to add truck nuts to one of these.

[@ojtothemax]

My 3090Ti does not have GPU sag, it's quite stiff by itself and in the Phanteks P600S Case there is an anti-sag bracket for the back it it works well so far. I use the PCIE Slots below my card, so I am happy it works out like that as it is.

[@VulcanXIV]

The simple rod stands are kind of endearing and much more simple--and cheaper--to use.

[@PhotoJohn80]

Phanteks P600S comes with its own GPU anti sag mount with the case. Love my case. I think it’s one of the best cases on the market. All screws came neatly in a plastic bin already separated out.

[@msiprintsanddesigns5530]

Congratulations👆 You won🎁.

[@ron200088]

Since I didn't have access to a 3d printer and I'm not about to buy something to fix a problem that should not have existed in the first place, I used a piece of 4mm foam core, which I cut to the specs and placed it properly. The idea came to me, after I've seen Jay's first video on this matter. Since I don't move the computer around, it holds in place without the need to being screwed, the weight of the GPU is more than enough to do that. Not to say, that it's extremely cheap and it offers more than enough strength for support.

[@msiprintsanddesigns5530]

Congratulations👆 You won🎁.

[@devonloubser5211]

I think this is a brilliant idea Jay, when does production of the part start? 😉

[@drunkbillygoat]

I have a cheap 5 dollar bracket from Amazon made by a company I've never heard of and its been working great for 4 or 5 years now.

[@rk3senna61]

i have an rtx3050 msi with a reinforced backplate so absolutley no sag im glad that some companys are listening now

[@edwardharding6632]

I don't understand why vertical motherboard layout has not become more mainstream? I've been using vertical layout for 7 years, zero GPU sag and great thermals as the heat naturally rises up and out the case.

[@famobixs7011]

Why not just using a vertical support at the right side of the graphic card?

[@neonbowser]

I don't know if it's the card or the mobo, but I have the Gigabyte 3080 Ti VISION OC, and there is virtually no sag. I am using an Aorus mobo with metal around the PCIe slot so again, maybe that's what's doing it, but I was quite impressed given the gargantuan nature of that card.

[@iicei2]

Oh thank you for recommending finally

[@devilsadvocate6989]

try printing them out of TPU, much more durable and squishy

[@scottym.9077]

I bought an adjustable support post to put under the sagging corner for $8 on Amazon. Post is black, case is black, glass side panel is tinted, so it looks like it belongs there. It came with a red spacer if I needed it, which would have been fine since my MoBo has red accents anyway.

[@aqulex84]

Another piece of PC accessorie that's not needed at all. Asus is like "let's cause an unneeded problem and then give them something to fix and rip them of on price"

[@duracellkev5289]

Rx6800xt comes with a bracket, cost me an absolute shit ton months ago but hey it had a bracket in the box atleast.

[@MitchOfCanada]

1/4 stainless or alluminum rod to base would look way cooler