Why Does This Sleep System Cost $1000? // Zenbivy Ultralight

[@JustinOutdoors]

👇 GEAR FROM THE VIDEO 👇 Sleeping Pad: geni.us/ZenbivyULmattress Sheet & Quilt: geni.us/ZenbivyULbed Pillow: geni.us/SoftTopPillow

[@Keefe_Outdoors]

total weight?

[@tapeoy]

is this a promoted video?

[@JustinOutdoors]

@@tapeoy Nope

[@briteshikes5099]

This is really cool and a great review! I think the $808USD they are asking (if you get the large 10 degree which is a comfort rated 20 degrees with insulated fitted sheet) is a bit too much. That doesn't include the pad or pillow.

[@TF-mc6yj]

Please show the packed size in future. I never understand why backpackers aren't shown how much space it will take up in their pack, especially with ultralight/lightweight products where we often have only 30/40L of space

[@JustinOutdoors]

It never is a limiting factor for me, especially with UL gear. There also aren't big differences between pieces of gear. Once you've seen a UL quilt or pad packed up, you've seen them all. I also don't like to fully compress any of my gear and leave things a bit more loose inside of a pack liner.

[@ericb.4358]

Just sew you own DIY neck snap on the ZenBivy quilt. I modify a lot of my backpacking gear to suit my needs.

[@JustinOutdoors]

I might have to add some snaps, I do have the little machine in my closet!

[@wilkinson6212]

I have the standard ZENBIVY 20 for car camping. I usually don’t sleep well on the ground, as I prefer my hammock, but you can’t always have trees. The zenbivy was by far the most comfortable system I’ve ever used, and I have multiple pads, bags, and quilts. Yes. It’s huge. Yes it’s very heavy. That’s why I’ve been waiting for something like this to take in the trail. It will be mine. Oh yes. It will be mine.

[@misfireendurance]

Love my zenbivy light. I have no issues with the hooks and can toss and turn without drafts.

[@The_Arby]

Cool sleep system...Would have been good to see packed items to gauge complete packed size 🙂

[@JustinOutdoors]

I always forget about pack size because it has never been a problem for me (even in winter). But I get there are bike packers and people who care about it, so I will try to do better at remembering!

[@undefeatedgaul3201]

@@JustinOutdoorsjust make a little short showing it. Would be very helpful

[@ronaldlemmer8491]

Why this has any advantage over a rectangle-down sleeping bag that can be unzipped if need be escapes me----it is heavier, more complicated, bulkier, and seemingly way more expensive. The newest version for the system is near $1000---gad

[@theamirkeren]

Maybe I missed it but what is the total weight and price of this?

[@kmichaelp4508]

50lbs & $10,000. Don’t you want 2 ?

[@talljohn66]

This helps me feel a lot better about the fabric getting stuck in my sleeping bag zipper.

[@davidlarson1399]

The point of the hood is to keep your pillow in place. It's very useful for me and a big selling point. The connections are also a big selling point. Some may prefer to clip one side, but keep the other side loose, and tuck under your body. This works if you need to get in/out and still keeps all drafts out. It's a very good system

[@N0V-A42]

I am so glad you said that about only clipping one side because that was my main concern. Thank you

[@musingwithreba9667]

That would be a good idea if you have a dog who wants in and out of the quilt thru the night!

[@eda715]

Yes, that was my thought exactly. I made a something for my pillow to achieve this. I attached some shock cord to some Lycra mesh to create a cargo net for my pillow. It holds it in nicely. It’s nice and lightweight and fits in the stuff sack with the pillow. But this system from Zenbivvy looks great.

[@harvfamily]

Thanks for this review. Very helpful.Are you planning to review the updated version of the Rapid SL from Big Agnes?

[@babar69110]

great review but miss the most important; seeing how it packs, and the smallest dimensions if really compressed...

[@garyantesr]

do a video on getting in and out of a quilt that has both straps around the pad and if you button up the quilt all the way.

[@dakotacoburn]

This sleep system seems like the complete package! Compared to how mix and match everything is traditionally, fixes my complaints with an EE enigma paired with a Xtherm

[@NikhilShahi]

Paria has had a similar pillow for quite some time.

[@hoser7706]

Seems like more work that rolling out an iltralight down sleeping bag. Intriguing but is it really worth the work? Is it that much more comfortable?

[@MastaSquidge]

*yes*

[@mattroth54]

Yes.

[@mohammedal-matari2497]

Hey Justin, Thank you for your review and insight! If you don’t mind me asking, you mentioned in the video that you got the regular wide version of the quilt. Did you feel the regular comfortable enough in term of width for your build or you would have preferred the large? I have a similar build to you so I was wondering. Also, how low in terms of temperature did you take the 25* bag? Did you feel it reach its limit at freezing or were you able to take it closer to 25* and still be comfortable? Any feedback would be appreciated!

[@wernerkoch2630]

Great system, love it. Now finally available to order for shipment from Europe.

[@blakedesmond]

I have the lightweight zen bivy. Can’t wait to use it.

[@iseabeck9488]

I'm going into my 3rd season with my ZB. Use it year round. Love it every time.

[@strubergsm]

Isn't it simply better to bring a sleeping bag rather than the gimmicky draft blocker? Seems like a bag would be much more worth it and less hassle.

[@JustinOutdoors]

I find that bags are difficult to toss and turn in. A hoodless bag is a little bit better for me. With quilts and especially the Zenbivy, I can shift positions when sleeping without getting tangled up in the bag and don't wake up because of it or barely wake up.

[@strubergsm]

@@JustinOutdoors Hey! Thanks for the reply! Never tried any quilts myself so might give it a shot someday.

[@aidanknight]

@@strubergsm If you are a side-sleeper, the quilt can be a gamechanger. Slight learning curve but it's more comfortable for me 100%.

[@summittaedae2323]

This feels like we’re reinventing a sleeping bag.

[@JustinOutdoors]

I could see how it would look like that if you skip over all the differences

[@Sanderbreur]

We so agree

[@Gurumeierhans]

Yes,but make it expensive and complicated.

[@pgoeleven]

My thoughts exactly 😂

[@kristymoore7052]

Try before you trash comment. I love mine.

[@wisenber]

This looks like one of those systems that some people will really appreciate, most won't notice a meaningful difference and some won't like at all. If you fall in the first category, it could be worth the coin. As a long time quilt user, i already own a number of balaclavas and insulated hoods as well as different quilts, so it's really not addressing anything I haven't already solved.

[@JustinOutdoors]

That's exactly it! I'm in the same boat as you, where I have found a system with a standard quilt and pad that works very well for me. But I can see this system being great for a lot of people who can't stand sleeping bags but haven't been able to get a quilt to work for them. It's great to have options!

[@Jo-oc-0]

Justin I have a good pad, quilt and pillow. If I sewed loops into my quilt, would the Light Sheet work as a complete system? Thanks. Love your videos.

[@benedikthassel]

I've made my own Zenbivy made out of my old sleeping bag, a hammock and a lot of time 😂 but its definitely worth!

[@AllWeatherFirestarters]

Great Video and Channel! Any chance of maybe doing a product review on our Firestarter?

[@envylures5770]

Outstanding review and build up to the product. Detailed to the rookies and keyed to the experience guys looking for key questions. Great filming as well showing the details along the way. Kept me in the video from start to finish. Just wished the product was available already. The price of the set up as well is what makes me pause, it’s a bit extreme for anyone. Thanks for all the work and info in the video. Stay awesome 👊😎

[@mariajacqueline1140]

Would love to see a comparison video between this and an EE enigma quilt sleep system of similar temp rating

[@orionleehing3509]

You ever seen the alton goods fitted sheet? Works great for me

[@thisguy7201]

How does the Zenbivy pillow compare to the Exped Mega Pillow? I really like the mega ever since I've seen your videos about about it.

[@miami3863]

Yea I’m curious as well. Honestly, I can’t see how the Zenbivy thing can compare.

[@district5rookie]

Genuine question: Why is this better than a sleeping bag? They seem easier and more simple.

[@maxwellerickson7066]

Lighter and more comfortable, as in less restrictive.

[@ScreaminJoeBlade]

It depends how you sleep - I have a fabric cover for my old Klymit Deluxe V Static and have been sleeping using a sleeping bag as a top cover for the last 2 years. I just bought a 25F Zenbivy because it is designed to work the same way but stay attached to my mattress (I hate waking up in the middle of the night to find the blanket I kicked off.) It is also designed to be able to attach fully to the mattress (like tucking the sheets in on a bed) when it gets a little colder. My new quilt is as light as my cheapest summer sleeping bag but several times warmer - and it compresses smaller.

[@kevinj.4847]

When I tried backpacking the first time, I used a mummy bag and I was MISERABLE and barely got any sleep. I'm a side sleeper and I toss and turn a lot but anyone thats tried a traditional mummy bag knows they are really only meant to sleep in on your back. I got the first version of the Zenbivy and it was a game changer. I will not ever go back to a traditional bag. It's pretty darn close to sleeping in my own bed at home.

[@kristymoore7052]

I bought the light bed last year and love it. Know nothing about the pad. People need to TRY this system before they comment. It’s really a game changer. I keep the sheet connected to the quilt, makes it easy.

[@MitchKirkham]

I had picked up a new light bed 10 degree system about a month before the ultralight was announced. Bad luck maybe but do you think the differences are worth taking the hit and trying to sell the unused light quilt and trade up? This new system looks awesome but I think the differences are subtle enough that I’d probably be best off sticking with the already great 10 degree light quilt system and keeping the ultralight (or whatever they have at that point) in mind next time around. Nice video!

[@DirtRiderLife]

Maybe you should have mentioned although very beautiful its also very expensive! Love my Zenbivy light bed which has colour coded hooks, don't find it any more fiddly than a zipped bag (who hasn't had their zipper snag multiple times per night, how frustrating is that) and at 1kg its lite enough for my 3 season use, sure I'd like the new UL version but no way could I justify the stratosphere price tag

[@JustinOutdoors]

When I made the video, prices weren't available yet. The pad and sheet are well priced, but the quilt is definitely on the expensive end of the spectrum.

[@skidaddledude1997]

Hi Justin, will you be attending the Calgary outdoor show March 15 or 17?

[@pleok08]

Friday, February 23rd: Thank-you for sharing this video. Happy Trails! Ross08

[@jariperho]

I think it's OK to lower your expectations when it comes to backcountry sleep. No amount of gear is going to rival your bed at home.

[@RC-qf3mp]

Very informative and thorough review. Thanks Justin.

[@davidturner3014]

Question, how many puffers, (Hollow Core... My Ol' Lady is getting a sewing machine this Christmas.) pants, coats, vests are you wearing under your rain gear? ECWCS Marshmallows... Or Mountain Hardware Ghost Whisperers... Etc.. Ever see that closed cell foam mylar insulation for attics? Roll it up, everything fits inside that. I have not proven this hypothesis yet... Micro-Fibre Sheet dipped in those silicon (Coleman Fuel.) stories. (KZbin.)

[@holdyngray4917]

I would love to see a video on the lanshan 2 person trekking pole tent thinking about buying it

[@michaelfrymus]

A NOTE TO FUTURE BUYERS: I just got this sleep system, as I am a brand ambassador, so I am trying out the products. I requested the full sheet rather than the half sheet version. The full sheet will hold the hood down much better to the matress. I have heard that some people have been having issues as the hood isn't staying in place on the matress. But there doesn't seem to be that issue with the full sheet as there is a draw string cord that pulls it tight on the matress, no matter what shape it is.

[@JustinOutdoors]

Have you tried the half sheet version? I haven't had any issues. I can't speak to the full sheet version though as I haven't tried it.

[@IanTheOutdoorGuy]

Great Guide mate, and I love that your willing to reassess brands, great ZenBivey

[@nicksam5518]

I disagree about the hood. I stomach sleep or side sleep , and an arm is usually over my head. I LOVE that the hood kept that arm warm when im half asleep. best system I've ever used.(I toss and turn, and I love how I can slip out a leg when I'm warm).

[@markodabrowski1040]

Hey Justin, I'm up in the Edmonton area. I'm hoping to get some advice. I have the Nemo tensor insulated 25" wide pad and am looking at quilts from enlightened equipment. I camp from car camping with my 5 year old daughter to hiking and scrambling to huts as I'm a ACC member and not sure if I should go with a -6 or -12 quilt and closed toes box Enigma or open Revelation? Any input from you is greatly appreciated. Oh, I also just do spring , summer and autumn camping, and never winter camping

[@charleskallal5544]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the bivvy. Looking forward to more updates on it this hiking season

[@BigDawgCAM]

Magnets. I would be interested to see if they could make a bed using magnets attachments instead of hooks

[@jorisev]

but magnets might snap together when you don't really want them to, when you're too warm and trying to vent

[@LifeConsistsOfWildness]

I have their light setup. Judging by the specs, this doesn’t seem to be a significant reduction in weight over the light version. I’m guessing there will be a significant difference in price though…

[@tippin.turtle]

Purchased two sleep systems for about $1,600.00. Have to say compared to my past sleep systems this was just "okay"; not great. Can find comparable comfort for way less money. This sleep system is the camping equivalent of the "Cyber Truck".... and yes, there will be remorse. Happy camping!

[@zakafx]

Hi Justin, i hate to ask, but do you have any info on the toaks pot lid you were creating? I haven't had a desire to purchase any new gear for myself, except for this lid and the new Yuka 240 saw/handle from Suluk46. Juat wondering! Would love to have one

[@KnicKKnacK29]

How’s the half sheet working out? Do you feel like it rides up on the pad to where you are forced to constantly have to pull it back down? Do you think the full sheet would be better if you were using this in a bivy/ul tent and keeping the whole system installed when packing up each day where you just deflate and re inflate your pad each night? I don’t repack each item in its stuff sack each night I just stuff it all together into my pack, so speed and convenience is key. The weight difference between the two sheets is negligible in my opinion.

[@jesseherbert2585]

"Pretty bad arthritis in both hands, especially as it starts getting cold" sounds like me in my 30s, before I started eating far less carbs, and more animal parts and fats. 20 years on and I'm in less pain than in my 20s, watching videos like this before I head back out to chop wood. Thanks brother and hope I inspire you to check my tips out as well. Onward!

[@MattVHulst]

Another awesome and informative video. Thanks Justin. Were you ever able to verify if the new rapide sl fixed the insulation suspension issue the ul zoom had?

[@JustinOutdoors]

Thanks! I haven't had the right temps to test it yet. Too warm on my Southern trips and too cold up here in Canada.

[@NADRIGOL]

Would love to know how often you've found yourself taking this system out instead of your other quilts since getting your hands on it.

[@JustinOutdoors]

I have been focusing on testing other gear through the late winter spring, but will be entering into summertime trips where I do less testing and more combo/list formulation. I think I'd still lean towards my standard quilt/pillow system just because it works so well for me. That being said, I think the Zenbivy will be the go-to system for steph on trips.

[@fartherdownthespiral]

Well done Zen Bivey commercial

[@taylorburton9356]

I just got last year's version of the 25° light sheet yesterday for 25% off. Now I'm trying to figure out how to modify my Paria thermodown quilt to work with it.... can't justify spending money on another quilt

[@JustinOutdoors]

What about little DCF loop stickers? Something like this but ideally less expensive. zpacks.com/products/stick-on-loop-clear-white

[@pedalparadise4096]

Try small loops held on by tenacious tape. I did loops sewn on directly, but ended up having to add patch supports. Works well. There's a YT video of someone who had them sewn on by someone who knew what they were doing.

[@Ryan-ll1pk]

Would like to see how all this fits into a 50L pack…..seems as though it would take up a ton of space for a thru

[@BS2Dos]

I have a zenbivy pad/quilt system and while good, ultimately, you’re still sleeping on a narrow pad on the ground. If you want truly good backpacking sleep, look at a investing in a hammock.

[@varde6965]

adding a snap on your own is probably not too difficult. :)

[@SuperdutyExplorer]

Am i the onlyperson that actually likes mummy sleeping bags? Im debating if i can make current gear work for next trip in 6 weeks... definitely need different system for summer either way...

[@JustinOutdoors]

I know lots of people who love mummy bags! My wife is one of them! Quilts or systems like the Zenbivy are not for everyone.

[@SuperdutyExplorer]

@@JustinOutdoors I really want to try the msr frontrange... hate my current and only nemo tent..

[@KrafftyGoesBackpacking]

When will you review the Big Agnes Rapide SL... it's what I have but world love to hear what you think?

[@michellepemberton9569]

What is the weight for this entire system ?

[@evanhammond7305]

I've used a thermarest for years horrible pad for comfort. I recently tried the sea to summit and huge difference. Although it was on the bedroom floor, lol. I personally prefer a hammock for backpacking, but there are some places in the mountains that don't have trees. Looks awesome, but out of my price range for something i wouldn't use all that much. A simple pad i can use my quilt for hammock camping and get multi use. My question is, would that quilt work in a hammock without the sheet?

[@JustinOutdoors]

Ya, it would work in a hammock without a sheet. No neck snap though which may or may not be a deal breaker for you.

[@evanhammond7305]

@@JustinOutdoors further more, why have we not seen Justin in a hammock yet? Have you tried one already?

[@JustinOutdoors]

@@evanhammond7305 I haven't tried one but am working on it! haha. I need Matty to take me out

[@evanhammond7305]

@JustinOutdoors I can't believe you haven't used one yet. My only tip is that there is a learning curve with hammocks. So you need three or four nights to get it dialed.

[@vals6004]

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[@stvm]

One thing missing from all these reviews is weight and packed volume compared to similarly performant options and systems. You get the weight savings of a quilt… with the whole system together, do you? In my view, The whole point of a review is what differentiates this product from competitors, what are the pros and cons and what are the trade offs? More comfort/ease of use for X amount of grams or liters. Better temperature performance than similar quilts because of the sheet, with weight penalty of Y and usage drawbacks of Z. Otherwise it’s just QVC for the internet era. I want the perspective of an experienced backpacker on why they would choose this system over another and in what situations. I think I just watched a 12 minute ad interrupted by ads with a sponsor break. Sorry to dump on your channel man. Just a consistent problem I’m finding with almost all backpacking gear reviews across the net and I landed here. It’s a well edited, thorough, and clear explanation of the product features so if that’s what someone is looking for they got it.

[@stvm]

OK Instead of being a complainer I just did the work: Compared a zenbivy UL 25 in regular/wide configuration, with Zenbivy UL Mattress and Zenbivy Softtop pillow TO a comparable custom sleep system. I used: Enlightened Equipment Enigma 20deg in 950FP, reg/wide, NeoAir Xtherm in reg/wide, and a nemo Fillo Luxury, plus a "pillowstrap" product to mimic zenbivy functionality somewhat. What I found was the following: Weight: Zenbivy setup - 1388g. Custom setup - 1563g Price: Zenbivy setup - $808. Custom setup - $808 (amazing coincidence) Packed Volume: Zenbivy setup - 15L. Custom setup - 13.7L. (best estimate, tried to be fair, this spec isn't always reported the same) The other major difference is that the custom setup is, by the numbers, a bit warmer, with a 20deg quilt and a R7.2 pad instead of a 25g quilt and R5 pad. EE also has a 30deg quilt which pushes it down to 1477g, maybe a little lighter and lower volume with the 950FP option over zenbivy's 900FP. However if you ask big down manufacturers like western mountaineering, they'll tell you the fillpower ratings kind break down over 850FP so numbers above that are a little sketchy to report. Lastly, the biggest difference is really in the pillow selection. The nemo fillow is larger and heavier than the zenbivy softtop by about 150g and 1L, but it was the closest in terms of comfort having a "foam topper" which no doubt is the heavy hitter (zenbivy has a down topper). A lighter pillow than a nemo fillow luxury could bring the custom setup down by 150g and 1L or more (you could even use the zenbivy pillow stand-alone!) and would give the edge in all categories to the custom setup, being "warmer," lighter, and more compact, for similar price. So, it ALL comes down to the sheet & neck cinch system and how well it works and if it really is comfortable compared to standard UL quilts. Anyway, highly, HIGHLY comparable systems. The difference between them is probably within the margin of error of doing estimates from spec sheets online, with the edge in weight going to zenbivy and the edge in volume going to a custom setup. There is probably an R5 pad out there that's not the Xtherm that makes the custom setup smaller and lighter in both categories but it will still be close, and there's probably a middle-ground pillow that makes up the big difference there and brings the custom set down even more. with the zenbivy you get a nice integrated system, it all comes from one company and is designed to work together. I think the major difference would be if the sheet/quilt attachment and hood cinch system actually work better to keep drafts out than the EE quilt, and if the whole system together really is "more comfortable" which is somewhat subjective but could at least be commented on. As a youtuber with access to lots of gear, a lot of value would be added in showing a side-by-side of the packed/compressed volume between the two systems and a comparison of use in the attachment and neck/draft solutions between the zenbivy and a custom option. I would really like to see some real-world commentary on how that sheet system works compared to a traditional quilt in the real world. Because I already have an Xtherm ;)

[@chandlerrenteria9043]

Seems like a sleeping bag with extra steps

[@tgeliot]

I think a big part of it is that you don't slide off your pad as much. But I haven't tried it

[@imatkingTX]

I LOVE ZENBIVY!!!!! I have two of their systems and swear by them!

[@gman963]

Aw man! I just got the 2023 Zen Bivvy. Now they have a new one. 😖

[@johnmca5643]

Same with me. It looks like they fixed what I didnt like.

[@MitchKirkham]

Same here! About a month and a half ago, still has the tags on haha. I feel like the old systems are 90% of the way there but the new bells and whistles sure do look tempting…

[@ScreaminJoeBlade]

Warning to Canadian viewers - when pricing out the Zenbivy gear add 18% for duty costs (I miss NAFTA) I bought a Light 25F quilt and cover for a 25X72 mattress from ZenBivy at Christmas - Sweet deal as it was 25% off... except I had to pay duty before FedEx would release it. All in I ended up paying over $600.00 CAD for just the quilt and mattress cover. I can't wait to use them but the sticker shock took a while to get over. (I am debating to buy the light mattress from them or a Nemo Tensor All Season as they are around the same price point (Around $345 with shipping, tax and duty from Zenbivy or $340 with free shipping, tax and no duty from Canadian company for the Nemo)

[@JustinOutdoors]

Even with NAFTA, quils/bags and tents not made in the US were excluded. As a heads up for people in Canada, you will often get charged taxes but not always duties. Brokerage fees can also be a big hit depending on the carrier.

[@ScreaminJoeBlade]

@@JustinOutdoors did you actually buy yours or were you "gifted" the product for review? Would be interested to know "actual" cost in CAD$ of the product you reviewed.

[@bryaneditiontv600]

Suggestion. Get a better mic for better audio. I only notice it because im a videografer. But its a cheao way to increase videoquality greatly

[@twiglet2214]

It was very stressful and i had many sleepless nights designing a new sleep system for insomniacs like myself and it was so tiring i kept falling asleep ?

[@N1ntend0Power]

What brand are your purple pants?

[@AK-yw3nk]

What is comfort temp?

[@JessaKrissovich]

Is white the only option they came out with?

[@woodchip2782]

It looks to be difficult to use during the night. What do you do when you have to urgently get up with an overflowing bladder…NOW!?😊 I like to use a quilt for its simplicity of egress when I’m half awake. All those clips and straps are a no-no at that moment.

[@JustinOutdoors]

The new clips are a lot easier to use than the old ones. When in quilt, I usually just undo one pad strap clip. With the Zenbivy I have to undo 2-3 depending on how tight my muscles are. I can actually do it pretty easily in the dark with one hand. The previous clips were tough for me to undo with two hands.

[@andreikaAF]

Why don't you make a comparison video of sleeping pads with R value over 6?? I'm having problems in choosing the one ))

[@JustinOutdoors]

I have

[@andreikaAF]

@@JustinOutdoors The one I found was 2 years ago and with three pads only...two of them have new versions now

[@pizzatimecomedy3403]

Any idea when this will be available for sale?

[@JustinOutdoors]

Sometime this spring (I don't know exact dates)

[@pizzatimecomedy3403]

Right on. Thank you!

[@alexsavin3173]

How does the mattress compare to the new Nemo Tensor All Seasons?

[@JustinOutdoors]

I haven't tried the All-Season, but the All-Season uses a similar top structure to the Extreme Conditions and I find the Zenbivy mattress a lot more comfortable. The Zenbivy is more similar to an REI Helix, S2S Ether Light XT, or Big Agnes Zoom UL.

[@alexsavin3173]

Thanks. I'm in the market for a new pad and can't decide between the Zenbivy and the Tensor All Season. I need a comfortable pad down to -5 Celsius. Any recommendations?@@JustinOutdoors

[@alexsavin3173]

Dan Becker just reviewed the pad and thinks it is too thin, i.e. he woke up in the night needing to pump it up to full in order for his hips to not hit the ground. Guess I'm buying the Nemo All Season. @@JustinOutdoors

[@jeffreycarman2185]

Thanks for the video.

[@maximusnukeage]

Way too complicated. I'm not fucking around with a bunch of hooks at the end of a long trail day.

[@banshee107]

I wish there was a way to close the quilt and totally eliminate drafts once it’s wrapped around you. Use like some buttons or wait….a zipper 😂

[@lukeflynn7025]

❤ from 🇮🇪

[@NothingToSeeHere-mb3fw]

Sorry - Did I miss you stating the cost of the entire system?

[@Prasannathani]

Nope, but Dan Becker's review quoted the system being $800-1000

[@JustinOutdoors]

When I made the video, the cost wasn't available yet.

[@timmo971]

Meh. It doesn’t tick all of my boxes. I’m just not sold on the whole quilt design. I want adaptability above all. Yes, as ultralight as possible I guess and pack ability in terms of space in my pack but I’m just not going to have the same gear (tent/hammock/pad) everywhere I go. Sometimes I’m alone sometimes it’s nice to open it up and share. I’m in favour at the moment, of getting two ultralight bags that can open out to cover two people or use one on the bottom and the foot box is slipped inside the other to bump up the heat retention but still use it quilt style or if it’s really cold zip both up and be inside both (but still have a light-ish pack up and size)

[@-COBRA]

and all that just only for the price i spent on all my gear.

[@tomsitzman3952]

To me this is just one more gimmick to attract publicly and business. The best systems I have seen are the what the militaries of the world have adopted. Basically, all the same concept with variations based on the needs of the units. The Modular Sleep System MSS. So simple and flexible and you most likely have most or all of the parts. Parts included are Bivy Bag, Ground pad, Bag Liner, Ninja suit (seasonal sleep wear) Sleeping bag or quilt one pound,, Sleeping bag 2 pound. Use only the parts you need for the expected temp range. Use in the combination that keeps you comfortable year around.. Everything goes inside the bivy bag including the ground pad. No special gadgets needed.

[@ZacchaeusNifong]

Absolutely no. Not modular if tou want to switch things out.

[@brycewalburn3926]

This feels like another step towards companies "inventing" the mummy bag in 5-10 years' time.

[@alexandersnider734]

Not just saying "ZenBivy" within the first couple minutes in order to maximize watch time and get that sweet ad revenue, pro move get that dollar son

[@BackcountryPilgrim]

Certainly can't respect anyone who wants to get paid for his time giving free information to people right? Lol and it's not even true.

[@fathead8865]

Noticed that from the jump. As soon as I saw the mattress I paused the video came here. And now im gon

[@JustinOutdoors]

Do you want to know who the killer is right at the beginning of the movie? Let me build some suspense!

[@user-ul5yu5hk9k]

I don’t see a problem with your approach. You do good reviews

[@michaelorr9059]

As always, great content and great reviews. I knew what system you were talking about from the beginning and still watched it all the way through. Keep up the good work.

[@bugatti314159]

Over $200 for just the sleeping pad?!

[@Neowak666]

but the back is not wrapped up... so if shitty pad, cold in the back?

[@kmichaelp4508]

Okay… great idea if it were to come in a package deal. But alas, it doesn’t. A miss on their part.add it all up and you’ll have well over a thousand dollars. If they had any marketing skills they would have done it! At a reduced cost over piece market. Make more money and sell more products. Maybe they will wake up and smell the roses?

[@MeMe-cd1wy]

Are you being paid in anyway by Zenbivy?

[@JustinOutdoors]

Nope. I have never taken and don't plan on taking sponsorships from brands who make gear in categories that I review (e.g., sleeping pads, tents, etc).

[@tapeoy]

Did you pay for the products they sent you¿?

[@dougmorales6929]

@@tapeoyI'm curious as well because he's trashed ZenBivy in the past ("gear I'm over with") yet magically, here's a video about the (slightly improved) sleep system again. Since product isn't available for purchase at the time of the review (nor prices!) I bet this was a cool little gift

[@undefeatedgaul3201]

@@dougmorales6929of course it was

[@awalkingingmistake]

Cool product, but not for me. My DIY setup is just as warm and half the weight

[@edmolash3401]

Super expensive. Nope.

[@joh8379]

And wouldn't you know it, now the damn thing costs 1k. 🤣🤣🤣 screw zenbivi

[@SummitSeeker546]

Probably not! Hope Zenbivy is paying all you influencers nicely in addition to free gear…

[@miami3863]

Paying them I kind of doubt it. Providing them all with the same gear and script to read off is probably what’s happening. Every one of these camping influencers regurgitate the same thing about the same products.

[@SummitSeeker546]

@@miami3863 no doubt. What influencer wouldn’t want a free sleep system and more content to drive views. I understand the model but dislike the regurgitation. Frankly I enjoy reviews from backpackers that have their gear dialed in for the type of backpacking they do and they share their adventures. What a thru hiker might use would be different from my style of backpacking. I’m a more traditional hardcore backpacker that likes a challenge, more nights, and some off trail. Definitely not a weekend warrior!

[@irisharel8226]

I honestly dont get the point- just get a wide sleeping bag instead of a quilt that you clip to your sheet.

[@seanoleary623]

Interesting. What wide sleeping bags are there?

[@raytaylor4199]

Come on man, Going to change backpacking 😂, People love to make things more complicated than it needs to be!

[@ecole146]

I agree, these quilt system scream that they're selling a solution to a problem that I've never had. I've always gotten great sleep with a good pad and a well designed bag, even as a side sleeper. The whole clip system to reduce drafts is a clever solution to a problem that is non-existent in a sleeping bag, plus it's way easier to get out of a sleeping bag with a zipper....

[@JustinOutdoors]

I interact with hundreds of people a month and one of the top reasons people don't enjoy backpacking trips as much as they could is because of getting poor sleeps. High five if you're able to get a good nights sleep with the system you have - that isn't the case for a lot of people. This sleep system addresses a lot of the issues I hear people talking about that prevents them from getting a good nights sleep. Maybe the title doesn't apply to you, but it might to a lot of other people out there. I'm all about trying to help people get out and enjoy their outdoor adventures more and love when that is the focus of conversation.

[@raytaylor4199]

@@JustinOutdoorshonestly, I refrain from commenting to most content creators, it’s a business and I get that, remove the links from the description and people might believe you. It’s not helping people, it’s confusing them. Makes people feel what they have is not good enough, they end up spending money constantly trying to find the perfect items, when in reality they probably don’t exist, it also prevents people from really enjoying what they have. This also contributes to environmental damage. Glad the outdoor gear review channel called content creators out. Respect to Luke.

[@jemulz12]

@@raytaylor4199 I disagree. The links are nice because if I want more information regarding a product, it's easily accessed. Also, no one is getting confused by these videos lol If you are, then stop watching them. Problem solved!

[@user-nu8uc8wq8v]

Well said. I too feel that these gear channels are paddling products with some form of vested interest disguised as objectivity. I've totally lost respect for that guy steve"s channel due to scummy gear salesmanship & clickbait titles. I've since unsubscribed & blocked his channel from appear and am now enjoying youtube a little bit better.

[@playnationtoday]

Purple pants

[@doryliggett8407]

I’m embarrassed to admit I paid over $1000 USD for this system. Oye

[@JustinOutdoors]

Nothing wrong with investing in comfort!

[@38201270298]

Bugahaha! What a bullshit! Past Days hooks system works so bad because of the colors of hooks itself and now it works just fine. And of course no word of drawback of this system - there is no attachment in the footbox section. That means you legs will constantly going outside the pad. BigAgnes Ranger series is much better in this regard.

[@JustinOutdoors]

Did you even watch the video? I talk about how the hooks are improved (solved the problems I previously had) and mentioned multiple drawbacks.